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Speaker 1: heard me talk my ships about the bay and how

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Speaker 1: where I'm fucking from and all this ship. Y'all heard

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Speaker 1: me say, I say, I get a lot of my

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Speaker 1: and earls the next. If you don't know, do your

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Speaker 1: fucking history, folks, because today we got royalty at the

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Speaker 1: Cannabis Talk one on one campus. This right here is

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Speaker 1: real walkie talkie spit that's coming out of my mouth

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Speaker 1: right now. Hip hop icon motherfucking too short and Oakland

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Speaker 1: based legend with a career spanning over thirty seven motherfucking years,

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Speaker 1: not longer, because you know he was spitting before that

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Speaker 1: with classic albums from album since the mid eighties, Folks.

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Speaker 1: Where Short I bought the album the tape off you

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Speaker 1: at the Barrys the flea market out the trunk is

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Speaker 1: where I got your first tape out and that where

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Speaker 1: I couldn't wait to tell you that as I cut

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Speaker 1: I first bought that tape off you in the eighties

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Speaker 1: at the barriers the flea market, when you were slinging

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Speaker 1: him out your trunk. Damn right that being said, folks,

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Speaker 1: that's how my hip hop history goes back from purchasing

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Speaker 1: by the name of jay Z Easy Eat, Notorious b

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Speaker 1: I G. Well, he's been a staple on the West

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Speaker 1: Coast hip hop since the debut of his album Don't

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Speaker 1: Stop Rapping, folks, and he's been rapping ever since. He's

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Speaker 1: also widely known for being a hip hop supergroup legend

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Speaker 1: with who the Web. When this came out, I lost

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Speaker 1: it Mount Rushmore, I was like, really went Mount Westmore,

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Speaker 1: Sis Coast? Excuse me? Count west More with E forty,

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Speaker 1: Ice Cube, Snoop Dogg, and right here E forty. Their

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Speaker 1: album Bad Mf's released July seven, and it's been knocking

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Speaker 1: in people's trunks ever since it came out. When I

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Speaker 1: And if you know what I'm talking about, you know

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Speaker 1: I said, at the upcurrent coming Burning Trees Festival Saturday

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Speaker 1: August and out of Linto, he'll be performing live there

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Speaker 1: with us, you guys, And it's a pleasure because, like

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Speaker 1: I said, we go back so much Short, and we've

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Speaker 1: the doghouse, right, Well, let's let's give this too short. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: young cat out of Oakland spinning? Like that was probably

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Speaker 1: your first TV interview. Yeah, that was one of the first.

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Speaker 1: streets and that's where I see your hustle, where like

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Speaker 1: oh this I've always been doing it. Now, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: as a youngster Um, I really out hustled a lot

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Speaker 1: Freddie B. And when me and Freddie B were selling

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Speaker 1: tapes around the bay, there was nobody else. And you

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Speaker 1: said that interapted me and Freddy be selling tape. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was just us. So if if Freddie B was

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Speaker 1: so he's still spending that game exactly, you know, but easy. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: other bootlegs. Yeah. You know, in hip hop you kind

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Speaker 1: They like free marketing. Yeah, yeah, well, when you're thinking

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Speaker 1: the artist and make the most money period. So you know,

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Speaker 1: either way it works in every artist favor. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: mean there's those facts right there too, right, why are

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Speaker 1: they doing the story? Yeah, they're not gonna push it

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Speaker 1: out to everybody. To me, it's always been a compliment.

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Speaker 1: I never wanted to walk up to a bootleg and

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Speaker 1: say knocking a knock over the box and say that

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Speaker 1: you ain't selling my ship. I'm like, get it all

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Speaker 1: out there, man, keep to the world. And you've been

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Speaker 1: wrapping forever. The first dude to come out there. Everybody

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Speaker 1: at all, you still got to know how to spit

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Speaker 1: that game every I don't care if you a schoolboy

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Speaker 1: global thing where it's like funk. It's works. The game

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Speaker 1: How did the two fucking guys who are the icons

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Speaker 1: forty and the click was around you know, um rbl

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Speaker 1: in the streets to do street things. It's always been

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Speaker 1: my guys. This guy's in Vallejo were friends and associates

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Speaker 1: so somewhere down the line we started, you know, really

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Speaker 1: been on the sidelines for years. So I stayed active

428
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 1: the entire time. Me and E forty talk a lot,

429
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 1: and this is one of our conversations we talked about

430
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 1: it just it's just kind of like always being in

431
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 1: shape hip hop shape, you know. And what that means is,

432
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 1: you put me in front of a beat in the studio,

433
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do something really good. You put me in

434
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,199
Speaker 1: front of a crowd with a microphone, I'm gonna do

435
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 1: something really good. Like it's not I don't have to

436
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 1: let it's no guesswork to it. It's automatic. I'm gonna

437
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,119
Speaker 1: rock the fucking crowd. It's been that way since I

438
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 1: was fourteen. Is that way when I'm fifty four, and

439
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: it's that it's gonna be that way when I'm sixty.

440
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 1: It don't matter. So um. I just think that it's

441
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 1: the passion to make to that that motivates you to

442
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,880
Speaker 1: do what you do, and that passion happens to be

443
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 1: the reaction from rocking the crowd, the satisfaction from listening

444
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 1: to a song we just recorded. Uh, you know, looking

445
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 1: at the wire transfer, go through the bank account, or

446
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 1: or the backstage counting out mindy, whatever the funking. Maybe

447
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 1: it's motivational. And at the times where I thought that

448
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 1: I should step back and step away from it, it

449
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 1: was always somebody there going, man, Why why would you

450
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 1: do that? Have you ever seen a jazz musician walk away?

451
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,479
Speaker 1: Have you do you see fucking um uh blues singers?

452
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 1: The bb King walked the funk away? So why should

453
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 1: keep you moving? Why should a hip hop artists walk away?

454
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 1: So a lot of things I'm doing now I don't

455
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,640
Speaker 1: have to do, but it's good for hip hop. It's

456
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:26,880
Speaker 1: good to say when somebody starts this um ageism conversation

457
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: about hip hop, it's like, oh yo oh that blah

458
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 1: blah blah. But then you got a real reference to

459
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,400
Speaker 1: go with. Damn jay Z was fucking fifty Snoop Dogg

460
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 1: was fifty e forty and two shows the motherfuck fifty

461
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: five like Motherfucker's was still getting money. So no matter

462
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 1: where you at as a young hip hop artist, you

463
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,959
Speaker 1: don't have to be told that you're in this box.

464
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 1: And these are the rules. Yeah, hip hop is not

465
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: in the box. Us old heads can't tell the young

466
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,640
Speaker 1: heads what to do. Your opinions don't really mean ship

467
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: and vice versa. And then you know, agism and hip

468
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 1: hop is something that it's probably always gonna be there.

469
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: But I'm part of the reference. When you say, well,

470
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: I know old as rapper that was getting money for years,

471
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 1: I just want to I just want to extend that

472
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: as far as possible so that the box that we

473
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 1: think hip hop is just gets bigger. It never it

474
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,239
Speaker 1: doesn't have to die, basically well, and not only does

475
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 1: it not die, but you're setting even the box to

476
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: be so much bigger. It's never a box to realistically,

477
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 1: because it's not a box no more. What you're saying

478
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 1: is you're tearing down whatever you think is not a

479
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: lot of hip hop fans their little box of this

480
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 1: is what hip hop is about? Your fake? Yeah, who

481
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: is the face of uh in the crowd at a

482
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: too short concert? You know what I'm saying? Like when

483
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 1: you think of like, you know what I mean? Who

484
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 1: who shows up to two short concerts? But it's vary,

485
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: it varies when you go to different leagues, but it's

486
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: it's usually the person who um, it's the person who

487
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: was there. There's always the intro person, the person who

488
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 1: turns you onto it, that was always there. And then

489
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: it's all these trinkle down fans of you know, I

490
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: have a lot of fans who weren't there, young, random

491
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 1: but they weren't there, but they're the kids who heard

492
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: it in the house. It's like me at a Motown concert.

493
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: I wasn't there, but I heard the music at home

494
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: so much. I know Motown, you know what I'm saying.

495
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: So they know too short, they know e forty. They

496
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 1: know it because they were in the car seat pissing

497
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 1: in that diaper, and and the speakers was too shorty forty,

498
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And you grew up on

499
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 1: that ship. So I do a lot of shows with

500
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 1: young crowds, and you know what I meant is not

501
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: the age group. I was thinking more like Hispanics, you know,

502
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 1: because I feel like I do a lot of shows

503
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 1: are just like Mexicans only yeah. I I feel like

504
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: I feel like there's just a huge Hispanic you know,

505
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: culture that just grew up and listens to your your

506
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 1: just quit doing all shows and say I'm only doing

507
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 1: shows Mexicans and ill yeah, and I really love Yeah,

508
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: that'spetic culture. I mean I grew up. I mean I'm

509
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 1: from Los Angeles. I grew up in a very Hispanic town.

510
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: We all bumped too short, we all like you could

511
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: put a whole line of together and be like shure,

512
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: it's gonna be there, let's go, and like it was

513
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: that big for the Hispanic market. And even when we're cruising,

514
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,479
Speaker 1: what are your boulevard or cruising all these different like

515
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: that was the ship. It was just like you didn't

516
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: cross over as a Bay Area hip hop artists, right,

517
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: I think like you that I've had other artists. I'm

518
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: not gonna name names because it's not even relevant, but

519
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 1: I've had really major artists come to me and go,

520
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 1: how did you get the support of the Mexicans, Like

521
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: like what did you do? And I'm like, I'm like, bro,

522
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 1: I just think it started with the music, you know,

523
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 1: like I made music that sounded good in low riders.

524
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: If you had ship like songs, like songs like the

525
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: Ghetto that's had to get assistant in my ship. And

526
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 1: I tested it with your ship, you know. I meant

527
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: like Lowder Magazine would do these car shows and you

528
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: would have like this the competition for the best base

529
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 1: and half the mother's in the competition, will be playing

530
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: the two shorts every time, everything every time, and it'd

531
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: be like, what the fun? No matter what culture he's

532
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: lower rider culture. It wasn't a thing where I tried

533
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: to pander my music, ton't even do that. Adopted it.

534
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 1: It just happened to just fit it, just the adopted it,

535
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It was just right because

536
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 1: even where you were at in Oakland, there was a

537
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: lot of Mexicans by you anyways, right everywhere. I'm from California.

538
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: Everything in my whole life, every school I went to

539
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 1: was half Mexican, half blacky yeah, everywhere there. So it's

540
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: the same concept when we see I tell some Mexicans,

541
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm more Mexican. You, yeah, I believe it.

542
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: Like as you say that, sure, tell me about that

543
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 1: upcoming because I don't even know the story of you

544
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: young young forty are not young? I heard you meeting

545
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 1: forty as a young kid on the streets like that.

546
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: But where's short? Because I grew up in Sando right

547
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: east side. I used to go to Oakland. I used

548
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: to go to East East fourteenth when it was East

549
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 1: fourte to go to Flint's just start some neighborhoods, neighborhood

550
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: She was, okay me, you know what I mean. I'm

551
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: that neighborhood cat. So I I know the neighborhoods out there.

552
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: I used to go there. And so therefore, where were

553
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: you at? What was it like for you? I have

554
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: a cheat code. I was born on Sunset Boulevard, and

555
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: I grew up in Um as a little kid. Elementary school.

556
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: I grew up in south central l A like Manchester, Normandy,

557
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:35,959
Speaker 1: and I moved to Oakland ninth grade nice and basically

558
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: I started wrapping in Oakland, UM. You know I was.

559
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: I was like a kid when I got there, and

560
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: the ship that made me a man was all that township,

561
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: all that East Oakland ship. And basically my cheat code

562
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: was that when I really started making records, I had

563
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: a like a network already in so Caw of like

564
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: family relatives, people that I went to. Yeah, those are friends.

565
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: So basically you would have to go break another market,

566
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: you know, I start off as a barrier local artist.

567
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: You would have to go to l A and and

568
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: figure out how to break it. But I had like

569
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: a support system already, and it kind of just the

570
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: first stuff I did it just took. It was just

571
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: like I played soccer with him as a kid, like

572
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: I played football with them. But I think that in

573
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: my d n A, I kind of you know, I

574
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: spent a lot of years of my life in New Orleans,

575
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,479
Speaker 1: and if you listen to some two short songs, I

576
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: was putting in influences of what I was hearing in

577
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: New Orleans into my music. And I have songs that

578
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: they have resonated with them early in my career and

579
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: they're like, you know, it made me to where they

580
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: do this tour called Legends of the South, and it's

581
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: just a mystical um. It's it's usually you know, um,

582
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: a bald m j G. Bumbers on their master p

583
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: does his own thing that um it would be like

584
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: Trina and Tricked Daddy and you know Southern artists that

585
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: have like, uh, multiple songs that they love. This show

586
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: is amazing. Juveniles on it a lot, and they booked

587
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: me on our shows, the Legends of the South. I'm like,

588
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: I'm from California, like, and it goes back to just

589
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: who you are as a cat because of a cat.

590
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: When you say in your wraps, if I'm not mistaking

591
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: shout to New Orleans and you do your ship like

592
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: where you're like giving everybody homage for their styles and

593
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: giving it to them. And you were the first one

594
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: in my book to do that type of ship. We're like,

595
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: how do the malefucker's not love you for that? You

596
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like you're giving them the props.

597
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: So you know, the cheat code was just actually being

598
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: in tune. Like I said, I'm a music guy. I

599
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: was in the elementary school band, I was in the

600
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: high school marching band. I know music, so um what

601
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: you do in the band. I was a drummer, no doubt,

602
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: that's that's being a drummer. The first time I heard

603
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: anybody rap, the first thing I thought was I could

604
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: do that because it was just patterns, you know, And

605
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: I did it. I was rapping. I started rapping in

606
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: Do you remember where you heard it from? Was it

607
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: Kevy Kabot Stanford Radio? Uh? The first rap I heard

608
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: was in nineteen seventy nine, when you know they dropped

609
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: rappers to light. But if you listen to the music,

610
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: I was into a lot of funk music, like Parliament Funkadelic,

611
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: you know, Ohio Players, Cameo, you know the funk and

612
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: if you listen to the funk, there was always somebody

613
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: you know, saying something, talking something to the rhythm a

614
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: little bit like especially like in Parliament songs. And I

615
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,959
Speaker 1: didn't call it hip hop or rap, but the rhythm

616
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: was there, you know. And when it officially got its name,

617
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: I heard rap for the first time in nineteen seventy

618
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: nine where they called a hip hop. I was doing

619
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: it by nineteen eighties. So you got a lot of

620
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: artists who consider themselves to be, you know, pioneers from

621
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: like New York. And I'm like, ship, I've been rapping

622
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: just as long as you. I've been famous just as

623
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: long as you. I got more hit records than you. Like,

624
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: I'm like you you you say that you're more authentic

625
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: than me than but it's not true. The hip Hop

626
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, what about it? You in it? Well?

627
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: I got the the v H one version of it

628
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: when it was the v H one of hip Hop

629
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: Honors that they they featured me on there. But I

630
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: don't even know what the hip Hop Hall of Fame is.

631
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like run DMC. I'm like, we want

632
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: just want to and roll Hall of Fame. I'm a

633
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: It's funny you say that, right, because I was at

634
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: run DMC's induction and so was jay Z. It's funny

635
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: I was there with him for that, so it says

636
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: you say that, I agree with you. You You are one

637
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: of the motherfucker's that deserved you on the Motherfucker Rock

638
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: and Roll Hall of Fame as well. I fully agree

639
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: with you. Dog. It's so funny you say that short

640
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: because those are facts of looking at the eight seventy

641
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: nine hip hop apparently comes out. Mother got a track

642
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: in the eighties from the eighties. What more do you need?

643
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: You ever crossover with like you know some of those

644
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: big bands and stuff and do do records. I made

645
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: a song with a Parliament fucking delic I know a

646
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: few songs with them, but um that the hit record

647
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: I had getting it. That's me and George Clinton and

648
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: his crew. I feel like I can compare you in

649
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: my head, which I've done several times talking to people

650
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: when I do the rap history. You know that you

651
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: we all play that game, or whoever doesn't then you're

652
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: not that hip hop guy. But we do it all

653
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: the time, and I always go man, in my opinion,

654
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: sure is one of those like an Elvis Presley. Well,

655
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: you know, if you want to do numbers, the numbers

656
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: are real. I had um six platinum albums. One of

657
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: those was a double platinum, and I have four gold albums.

658
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: And in the world of hip hop and fucking music

659
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: in general, the artists that you know and love your

660
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: for life don't have numbers like that. So when you

661
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: get in the hip hop and you start saying, how

662
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: many rappers have five platinum out it's a really small list.

663
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: And then you get up to the six where I'm at,

664
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: it gets even smaller. And when you get to seven eight,

665
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: you're talking about you've got two hands of you know,

666
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: and I'm still performing. Can we borrow one of them

667
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: and put him up in the can? He might be

668
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: mad at me, but I have plaques. They're like man

669
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: the mother later round in the Let's put him up.

670
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Speaker 1: Not only that, we've been to your your little spot

671
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: everywhere there it's Cannabis Talk one, and we're gonna come back.

672
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: We've got the man here, short dog. We're here about

673
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: his cannabis brands. He's got his old little whoop you

674
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: whoop be smoking because you want to smoke with shorts coping.

675
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: We got it right here. Folks, come back, It's Cannabis

676
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: Talk one oh one. We'll be right back after this.

677
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 1: We'll be right back with Cannabis Talk one oh one.

678
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one oh one. Are you

679
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Speaker 1: ready for the biggest countrt of the year. It's the

680
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Speaker 1: Burning Trees Festival Auguste, Adelato, California. Performing live on stage,

681
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Speaker 1: just the boss Man himself, Ludicrous plus Dog I'm real

682
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: you know how you are, just giving you a mic

683
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: and say let's go. I'm the same way, Joe. Here

684
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 1: you go, and I'm like, I'm ready to go. Don't

685
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: tell me when we're on, but I'll go on. Sleep

686
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Speaker 1: to you all day every day. Come fun. You know

687
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Speaker 1: how we do bottom line folks. Big Draco a k

688
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Speaker 1: A Soldier Boy, the man right there you just heard

689
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Speaker 1: performing live on stage, too, Short Havoc from the Deep

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Speaker 1: Exhibit and Corrupt Jan Gatti all live on stage August

691
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Speaker 1: the Plaza and Events Center. Plus we got so many

692
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Speaker 1: of us that are helping throw this all you guys.

693
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Speaker 1: Can x is I heart Radios, Cannabis Talk one on one,

694
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Speaker 1: Game Day, Green Holdings Group, Dudes, the Blacklist and Weed

695
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Speaker 1: Maps for tickets go to cannexus dot com. Short, we're

696
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: talking about your cannabis as brand as you as you

697
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: went to break. And it's funny because dog, when I

698
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: tell you, I smoked many blunched New York ship like

699
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: many man, even I feel like I learned I got

700
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: a role listening to you, right, like living out the

701
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: window with this ship that said, like, you come out

702
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: with a brand. And I first knew of your brand

703
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: when I went to Freddie Sages the Fox Firms fucking

704
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 1: released thing right X amount of years ago and I

705
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,959
Speaker 1: see you on that and I go, wow, he's having

706
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,959
Speaker 1: an activation and doing something up there, and I've seen

707
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: it and I was like, cool, that's the first I've

708
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: heard of it about three or four years ago. So

709
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: what is it? And what are you doing with the brand? Now?

710
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: Where can people find it? So I really resisted um

711
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: joining the industry in the early days, you know, early

712
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: two thousand's, and then later like around the tents, it was,

713
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 1: you know, it was people just around me going let's

714
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: do it, let's do it, and I'm like, I do this,

715
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: I don't do that. And I just out of respect

716
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: for the industry as I entered into you know, trying

717
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: to get some money and just being a part of it.

718
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 1: I kind of just took my time and learned what

719
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: was going on. And I know it's a lot of

720
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: in these last five or so years, been a lot

721
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: of changes, legal, legal changes, and I've just been kind

722
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: of watching how it's going. So I did a little

723
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: dabbling in some pre roles, dabbled a little bit in

724
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 1: some some flower and you know, I feel like, um,

725
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: where I want to end up in this industry is

726
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: in multiple states as a brand. So I'm really just

727
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: doing a lot of homework, a lot of legwork to

728
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: get to that phase. And you know, I have a

729
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: brand called a Too Short brand. We're launching another brand

730
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 1: called Defense, And I'm just like, I'm not really trying

731
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: to come in and go I'm top dog. I'm actually

732
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 1: just trying to do like I did in music, put

733
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 1: out a good product, work my way up in the game.

734
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: Let's get some money, let's do it. So I'm gonna

735
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 1: be around. We're not going anywhere so or we're making

736
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: moves to where it's not gonna be where you can

737
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 1: just pinpoint me. Like I said, I'm not in the box.

738
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: You can't just like, oh that's too short. Right over there.

739
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: You'll see when I bust these moves that we just

740
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: want to be in it. So we're gonna be in it.

741
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 1: We're gonna be You're gonna see that name around. I'm

742
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: going everywhere from the fucking seed to the motherfucking eighteen

743
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: will of dropping off the motherfucking packaging. Were in it

744
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: all the way. It man too shortcoming hard in the

745
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: cannabis game like you're doing the rap game though, I

746
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: mean done at all. I feel like that's why. I mean,

747
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: that's why I'm here, man. I'm really just you know,

748
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: affiliating myself with the best of the best and just

749
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,959
Speaker 1: being around him. Man. You know Snoop dogs my guy,

750
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: and you know Snoop is a Mr Cannabis. So I'm

751
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: just around it man and it. But so are you

752
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,439
Speaker 1: in my buck dog. Don't get it twisted, like when

753
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: when motherfucker's here. Too short. It don't like mean I

754
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 1: went to church or I'm just gonna say bitch. I

755
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: mean you know what I'm saying. It's like come on,

756
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: you know though, like right before we started filming, I

757
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: popped this open and I hit my little joint like

758
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: about three or four times and I dropped it back

759
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 1: in here. This should might last me like most of

760
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: the day. You hanging around those other guys, Man, they've

761
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: running through like some I'm like that too, though, short

762
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: Like I used to smoke every day, you know, when

763
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,439
Speaker 1: I was young, and then I got to a point

764
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: where you know, I'll hit one or two hits and

765
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: I'm good, Like I don't want to be you know,

766
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: blitz and ship. I just to catch a buzz. I'm cool.

767
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: I'm smoking it. It flows. I get a consistent of

768
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: you know, flow all day. But I don't smoke back

769
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: to back to back to back to back to back.

770
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: And as your brand comes out, are you hands on

771
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: with touching and looking at it making sure it's that

772
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 1: quality that you want and you like, yeah, well, you know,

773
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: there's there's there's different parts to it, because um, you

774
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: talk about the quality and all that. But I'm also really, really,

775
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: really into the mid grade part of the cannabis industry.

776
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: It's important to me that my fans and music can

777
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: afford it, and they come from all walks of life.

778
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 1: I'm not just trying to cater to the guy who

779
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: can afford the eighty five dollar fucking eight. I want

780
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: to really going in the store looking like I got

781
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: eight dollars on me? What am I gonna get? And

782
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: I love you for that though, because that's that's the

783
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: real I mean, you're giving back to your people, making

784
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,439
Speaker 1: sure that people can actually afford what you've got, and

785
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: I think that's super important. And right now, as much

786
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: as the industry is changing and evolving, it's smart for

787
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: you to sit back and watch what's happening and kind

788
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: of see how it's growing. Because you know, there's been

789
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: so many changes comes out with the brand. One day,

790
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: they got to re change all their packaging. They don't

791
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: understand that this has been changed. That's been changed. And

792
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: then there's legal things that are happening. Cities are taking in,

793
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,760
Speaker 1: some cities aren't. Some cities are working, States are working

794
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: with it. So you know, it's it's very intelligent. And

795
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: one of the things I really like about you is

796
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: I'm getting to know you, you know sure, is that

797
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 1: you know the man we listen to is not the

798
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,919
Speaker 1: business man that we're sitting next to. You know, when

799
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: when when I sit with you and talk to you

800
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: now right this second, I'm realized that you know, you're

801
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: not just some rapper that's just you know, in his head,

802
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: that's talented, that has lyrics. You actually are a business conglomerate,

803
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 1: like you have the ability to do anything that you want.

804
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: And I appreciate that about you. You know, we underestimate

805
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: a lot of our hip hop artists and we kind

806
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 1: of uh relate to them in in the music they make.

807
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: And you don't you don't understand that it's always been

808
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: the music business and that's that's not one word. There's

809
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: two words. So a lot of guys who jump in

810
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: here and make all this music and they don't do

811
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 1: the other word. They don't really get to stick around.

812
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: And a lot of guys who are really good at

813
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: the business, they don't have to be the best musician,

814
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: and the ship is just bigger because they're they're hustling man.

815
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: And so you know, I really respect artists who could

816
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: get in this game hang around for a long time.

817
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: I mean, same thing with the cannabis. You know what

818
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you're getting there, you hang around. I've been

819
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: watching cannabis for the last ten years. It's a revolving

820
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: door of people who consider themselves in it and then

821
00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: you're right back. Same thing with the music and it's like, um,

822
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: you know you gotta you gotta do both parts, man,

823
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 1: you gotta be you look at your your favorite rappers

824
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: that have been around for years. Man, those are all businessmen.

825
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: I don't care how ignorant you think somebody's images. You

826
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: can't get to that point without being some kind of

827
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: smart business man. So a lot of times when I

828
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: say you underestimate them, guys will get on like an

829
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: interview like this and kind of talk a certain way

830
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 1: on purpose, you know, like something you're doing nothing man,

831
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: and you're like that stupid motherfucking can't even open his

832
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: mouth and you like don't even know. As soon as

833
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: he's finished the interview, he's like, uh, is my driver here?

834
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: Can we go? It's sucking imaging man, And it's like,

835
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: you gotta sell. You gotta be able to sell the

836
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: entertainment and then stay on top of your ship. And

837
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 1: it's not easy to do. That's part of the reason

838
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: why a lot of recording artists don't stick around for

839
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: a long time because juggling those two it's really hard

840
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: to do. It's hard to be from the hood and

841
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: you finally get your foot in the door and you

842
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 1: make it big. You get a lot of money. Now,

843
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: You've got a house with a pool, you got three

844
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: girlfriends fighting over you, you got the best video games

845
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: in the best weed. And they come up and go, hey,

846
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: we need another album. You're like, you got feed up

847
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: on the cows dicking her mouth. You're comfortable. What am

848
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: I gonna wrap about? It's a lot. So you wonder

849
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: what happens to a lot of artists, and you know

850
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a tough it's a tough situation too

851
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: to be able to step back up to the table,

852
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: make another platinum, another platinum, do another platinum. It's just hard.

853
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: I would think that artists right now, what do you

854
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: feel about them? Like the music that's being played? I

855
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 1: mean I feel the same way, man. I think that

856
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: I really envy the artist now because of the multiple

857
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: platforms that they get to make money through, Like they

858
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: have a lot of Like you guys get to make

859
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: so much money, so much faster than but but my

860
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 1: generation made more money than the one before us. So

861
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: it's just like it's like I admire the platforms, the

862
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,919
Speaker 1: multiple platforms, and how you could just make so much

863
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: money off of just being popular. You don't even necessarily

864
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: hit record. You need to be popular, and I think that, um,

865
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 1: you know, when you talk about sports and different errors

866
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: and who would have been was different errors, it's the

867
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: same thing with music. I think that you just gotta

868
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: adapt to your error and maximize that ship. So it's

869
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,720
Speaker 1: not easy now, it wasn't easy back then to become

870
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: the cream of the crop of what one other million

871
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: people are trying to do at the same time. And

872
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 1: you end up up here. You can't sit there and

873
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: discount that kind of artist, that kind of person and

874
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: say this ship is whacked, Like how the fund you

875
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: so whack? But you got up here, you're making all

876
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 1: this money, you're ships, all in rotation, all the fans,

877
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 1: all the kids, they love you. Something is not whacked.

878
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: So I respect that same thing I've been saying, where

879
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: you step up to the plate, you win, Give you

880
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: another opportunity of foots in the door. Now what you're

881
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 1: gonna do, I'm gonna win again, And what you're gonna

882
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: do after that, I'm gonna win again. And I'm like,

883
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: that's who I respect. I'm I really saying, who makes

884
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 1: the best record, who got the best flow, does the

885
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: best show, Who's gonna stick around long enough to employ

886
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: other people, to bring other people into the game, to

887
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: look back on your legacy and go, man, look at

888
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: all these people doing good because I did good and

889
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: I helped all them. That's what this ship is about.

890
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: Many preach that, man, that's what that's what we're doing.

891
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: That's what that's good. Let's work around this is what

892
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: we're doing. Yeah, yeah, that's what we're doing that you

893
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: feel me, this is what we're doing. And we start

894
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: off with interns from my heart, with as a as

895
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: a guy here right now that is going to get

896
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: so much experience that his entire life, he's gonna think

897
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: back and tell everybody that moment where I started. You

898
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. If I didn't have that opportunity,

899
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: I would have never got here. And that ship is

900
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: that ship is everything. And it's funny that we've been

901
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: through that and we get to look at and help

902
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: people because like you say that, and I believe that's

903
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: where you're coming from. That to me is the best

904
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: feeling that we get as as we being here, which

905
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're describing that you get, which is that

906
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: giveback of seeing somebody else, like you mentioned organically not

907
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: purposely of allowing somebody to write something for you from

908
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: the hood from every album, because that giftback was part

909
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: of the DNA from Jump Yeah and also comes back

910
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: on you his blessings too, so hundredfold. So shout out

911
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 1: to Chef J for making us some food. Right now,

912
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: we're gonna jump into the high five, but really, before

913
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: we go into that high five, do you like that food?

914
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: The food was good, man, some chicken and waffles. Take

915
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: the salad. It was a salad on there, and you

916
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: hit me with the apple pie with the bourbon. I'm like, okay.

917
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: And then you try to take away my twenty four

918
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 1: year chip on that one. Take my chip away on

919
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: all I need. Now before we do the burnie, I

920
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: mean the high five, man, real quick, what do you

921
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: think about the lineup for Burning Trees? Man? I mean,

922
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: you know, busting rhymes, Rick Ross, Luda, yourself soldier exhibit.

923
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: What do you think about them? Everybody you're naming is

924
00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 1: guaranteeing the fans in the audience that they're going to

925
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: see multiple good shows. Like you naming people who really

926
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 1: do they've seasoned, they performers, they do really good shows.

927
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: So you got a lot in story. I know what

928
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: I do, and the names you just named, I know

929
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: what they do too. So yeah, it's gonna be a

930
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: good day. It's always funny when you think about that,

931
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: not only its gonna be a good day. Where are

932
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 1: your comfortable shoes? Yeah? Long day. Don't wear your hose shoes?

933
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 1: Yeah no, wooden chunk class out there in the desert, folks,

934
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: bring and you wear them hose shoes. You gonna be

935
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: carrying around two fingers. You would call them complainers. Wear

936
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: your motherfucking complainers, folks. That's what I've always called it.

937
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: What do you got on your complainers? Now? Time for

938
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: the high five with too short you guys. Five simple questions, brother,

939
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 1: just your simple answer. How old are the first time

940
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: you smoked cannabis? And where'd you get it from? I

941
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: smoked some weed with my older brother. I was thirteen.

942
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 1: Where were you guys at? We were just walking from

943
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: school somewhere or something, and he was doing it and

944
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: I was, you know, I wasn't being offered it. I

945
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 1: was like, let me hit it. I remember the first

946
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: time I did. I said, let me hit it. He's like,

947
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: you know, I'm like, let me hit it. And I

948
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: hit it one time and I started acting like I

949
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: was drunk, and he's like, you're faking, man. I was fake.

950
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: But then when I was fourteen. You know, I'm not

951
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: really proud of this, but when I was fourteen, I

952
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: became like a you know, really regular smoker. I got

953
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: me a pack of rolling papers and in a bottle

954
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: of parsley, and I just rolled it, rolled it. Yeah.

955
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: One day I figured out how to do it, and

956
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: I was like, I was. I had an older brother

957
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: whom I used to sneak and like smoke weed out

958
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: the window in my room. And then my mother was

959
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 1: like I smell weed. I'm like, not me. My brother

960
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: was ten years older. Must be him. Yeah, sixteen year old.

961
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: Question number two of the High five, what is your

962
00:48:56,040 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: favorite way to use or smoke cannabis? Right now? I'm

963
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: I'm strictly flower. You know. I smoke these um these

964
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: little joints. They're not they're like little joints, but I

965
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: pack them with a lot of weed, not too much,

966
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: and um I could, um I could like you can

967
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: like take as much we as you want, and I

968
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: take as much we as I want. And you roll

969
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:19,919
Speaker 1: a blunt and I roll a joint. And I bet

970
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 1: you I can fucking roll a joint so fucking fat

971
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: like you, your blunt wouldn't sork with it. But the edibles,

972
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: if it's if it's strong enough, edibles to me and

973
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: like a home thing where you know when the chill

974
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 1: might be like a little sip of some liquor, maybe

975
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: some red wine and an edible and I'm like kicking

976
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 1: it at the house. But outside of that, I'm not.

977
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: I'm really not in the wax. Not in the wax.

978
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: I'm not in the umto. I don't. I don't even

979
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: like the pins, de vape pins or whatever because they

980
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 1: hit my chest. I mean, but if that's what you

981
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: used to, because you know I've been I've been around

982
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: and somewhere where um where they're like weed is just

983
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 1: like not cool with some events. Bring that little pin,

984
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: real player right there and non schlow. I got my

985
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 1: nicotine right at the funeral with my pin number three

986
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: the high five with short ride here, craziest place you

987
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: ever use cannabis besides the funeral that you're just talking about.

988
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: Um well, I had techniques on how to smoke. I

989
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: have like a full proof plan on how to smoke weed.

990
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: Somewhere where it's just not allowed. And what I do is, um,

991
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: it has to fit in my hands. So it's like

992
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:48,240
Speaker 1: like my little joint I lighted up. So as I lighted,

993
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: I covered in my hand and I'll start walking. So

994
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: every time I hit it and blow it out, it

995
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: is behind me, and I just keep moving. And I

996
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: worked the whole room and then I put it back up.

997
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: Look back and yeah, everybody's doing who's smoking? And that

998
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,399
Speaker 1: was and I just like keep it to myself. That's

999
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: just the game right there. That's smoke anywhere, anywhere and everywhere.

1000
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: He's been doing that for year, never been caught. Question

1001
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: number four, what does your go to munchy after you

1002
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: get high? I've been smoking so long that never. I

1003
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: don't relate the munkeys with weed. It didn't well if

1004
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: you were at home and you're not a good edible

1005
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: and you've got a good little red liquor on you.

1006
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: If if I dig it the munchy's, which I can't,

1007
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: but I'm saying if I did, it would probably be

1008
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: something like a root beer float. Nice favorite. That was

1009
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 1: when I was at three fifty. After what I knew

1010
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: I was bad, I have I woke up in the

1011
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: middle of the night. One time I went there, it

1012
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 1: made me a root beer float, and I went to myself,

1013
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: that's how fat you've gotten, Joe say, I'll never forget

1014
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 1: a root beer float. It was that, that's how fat

1015
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: you are the middle of the We're driving at three

1016
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: in the morning, flute exactly. Question number five of the

1017
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: High five short Dogs. This is a good one because

1018
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,959
Speaker 1: you can go as deep and vulnerable as you want. Brother,

1019
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: But just wait before you with a vulnerable answer. Ready,

1020
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: If you could smoke cannabis with anyone dead or alive,

1021
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: who would it be? In Why I smoked with the

1022
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: best man? Damn, that's why. Who would I want to

1023
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: smoke with? Let's think I probably would say, like a

1024
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: Jimmy Hendricks. You know, you know he's some of the

1025
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: most iconic f I smoked so many times with Snoop Dogg.

1026
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 1: I smoked so much with George Clinton, like I've hung

1027
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 1: out with my heroes man, But Jimmy Hendricks seemed like,

1028
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 1: you know, he's a musician, he's kind of a centric

1029
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: kind of guy. You know, he had the ladies and ship.

1030
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: He might be a good home to hang out with.

1031
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,919
Speaker 1: Who he was, he was one of those players who

1032
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: is your music hero man? Like you know what I'm saying,

1033
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 1: if you just George Clinton hands down. No, he's performing tonight.

1034
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 1: That was last last night. Oh yeah, that was last night.

1035
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 1: He's an icon. I got a chance to me to

1036
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: want a few times Jackson the Bay Area. He's just

1037
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: one of those duds, right, he's still cracking, like I mean,

1038
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,479
Speaker 1: you know, he just there with the tail on the head,

1039
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 1: I cracking like crack. He's drug free. No, no, no,

1040
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: I still doing shows that still popping. He's like you

1041
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like he just goes there iconic

1042
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 1: and eighty. He'll do a two hour show, three hour

1043
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 1: show anywhere in the world. A man is amazing. Man,

1044
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: what's the longest show you've done, because you could probably

1045
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 1: still start freaking kills right now, and they'll be done

1046
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: on Thursday, keeping like around an hour just to keep

1047
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: the audience engaged. But I do these shows a few

1048
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 1: times a year with a live band, and every time

1049
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: we brand the live band, we go to two and

1050
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: a half hours. We just go. I watched something online

1051
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 1: that you did at your campus either day. That ship

1052
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: was dope and the tiny tiny dust whatever it was

1053
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: somebody had it online here and they're like, oh, that's

1054
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: the spot over there. Oh yeah, that ship was hard.

1055
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,399
Speaker 1: But anything we want to bring up before we let

1056
00:53:58,400 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: you go, I know you gotta get out of here.

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