Speaker 1: Hello, Hi, Hi. What's your name?
Speaker 2: Is it okay if I remain anonymous?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Sure, what I'm gonna call you Leslie? I think
Speaker 1: that's fine, Leslie. What's up, Leslie? How you doing?
Speaker 2: I'm great? How are you doing?
Speaker 1: I'm also doing pretty good. I'm having fun. I'm enjoying
Speaker 1: talking to people on the phone. Uh, and I'm I'm
Speaker 1: I'm giddy to hear whatever it is that you want
Speaker 1: to talk about today.
Speaker 2: Well, I have a questions like is anything off limits
Speaker 2: that I talk about? Is there anything that I can't
Speaker 2: talk about that would like her show or like anything
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: I you know, that's a tough question because I feel
Speaker 1: like for something like that, I feel like I feel
Speaker 1: like that's a you know it when you see it
Speaker 1: kind of a thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, fair enough. I want to without a weird
Speaker 2: series of sexual encounters I had whenever I was nineteen,
Speaker 2: because I haven't really ever got to talk to anybody
Speaker 2: about them, and I've been bored in my brain. It's
Speaker 2: why not talk to internet people's.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna so listen.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: The way you are presenting this to me right now
Speaker 1: is making me think that you you would like to
Speaker 1: talk about some stuff that sounds like it would be
Speaker 1: uh territory most suited for a non gecko therapist. That's
Speaker 1: the vibe.
Speaker 2: Oh it's not been like bad bad. It wasn't. It
Speaker 2: was just some whack, just weird, weird. It was just
Speaker 2: something weird.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: I don't have any friends or anybody that I could
Speaker 2: be like, oh my god, You're never gonna freaking believe
Speaker 2: this ship a year.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, But.
Speaker 2: If I get going and you feel like it's not appropriate,
Speaker 2: you know, obviously you're in charge. You can hang up
Speaker 2: the phone in any moment.
Speaker 1: Okay, you know what, you know. What what's up, Leslie?
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 2: Okay? So back whenever I was nineteen, I got kicked
Speaker 2: out of the house. So I started living with some
Speaker 2: roommates and I didn't have any rules, and I was
Speaker 2: down home for the first time, and I grew up
Speaker 2: real sheltered. So it's kind of oblivious to a lot
Speaker 2: of shit.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Well, some people that I had met, you know, shortly
Speaker 2: after I got kicked out, were like, yo, there's this
Speaker 2: website you should go on because you can meet all
Speaker 2: these people to boink. And I was like bet. So
Speaker 2: I got on there and there was this forty five
Speaker 2: year old man that lived in my and I should
Speaker 2: say that at that time, that dude was older than
Speaker 2: my parents. And you know, nineteen year old brain, you're
Speaker 2: on hormones, and so you're like, yes, let's do that,
Speaker 2: because that feels like a no, no, why not? But
Speaker 2: I was of age, everyone was of age. Nothing illegal happened.
Speaker 2: But so I meet up with this guy in like
Speaker 2: a public park, right, and am I still on?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I'm sorry I didn't. I thought I got
Speaker 2: him up on.
Speaker 1: Okay, I feel no, no, no, I'm not. I I
Speaker 1: I appreciate you giving me the permission to randomly hang
Speaker 1: up on you, but I won't do that.
Speaker 2: Okay. So I meet up with him in a public park,
Speaker 2: and I should say the website we were on, you
Speaker 2: don't you don't post your face, post other things, right,
Speaker 2: So I have no clue what this dude looks like,
Speaker 2: and I and he looks have you ever seen puts
Speaker 2: in boots? He looked like Humpty dumpty hot, like straight
Speaker 2: up like egg with legs.
Speaker 4: And.
Speaker 2: I was kind of put off by it. But the
Speaker 2: dude was like, I have pot and I was like, ooh,
Speaker 2: why not and so we go back to his place
Speaker 2: and he opens up the door and it was a
Speaker 2: fricking hoarder house, like straight up. And he tried to
Speaker 2: cover by it by saying, oh, I botched stuff and
Speaker 2: still it on ebage, don't worry about it. And I
Speaker 2: was like, you're a hoarder. But whatever, I'm already here.
Speaker 2: I'm committed. Let's get this over with, right, And so
Speaker 2: we get down to business and it started off normal,
Speaker 2: and then he was like, hey, you want to try
Speaker 2: something crazy? And I was hired, so I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: why not, let's go. And he pulls out this pink
Speaker 2: Duffel bag from under his nasty ass bed and it's
Speaker 2: full of you know, you know, odds and ends. But
Speaker 2: the craziest ship that he pulled out was a bamboo cane.
Speaker 1: A bamboo cane.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like he had gone out into the wood. He
Speaker 2: said he made it himself. He went out like into
Speaker 2: the woods because bamboo grows where I live, like just
Speaker 2: out in the wh.
Speaker 1: This man, this man crafted an object for you to
Speaker 1: shove up his ass.
Speaker 2: It wasn't his ass, it was the front part. What yeah, founding.
Speaker 1: Is sound okay? This man asked you to shove a
Speaker 1: bamboo cane into his dick hole.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I will say it's not like a walking cane.
Speaker 2: It was more like something that you would use like
Speaker 2: I don't know how you were raised, but whenever I
Speaker 2: grew up, my parents popped me with switches and stuff,
Speaker 2: and it was somewhere around there like it was.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: It was still pretty. It was scarily big for what
Speaker 2: I was doing with it.
Speaker 1: What is like, what's the circumference of this thing?
Speaker 2: Oh? Man, I don't know, maybe like not quite an inch,
Speaker 2: but like it was, it's pretty thick, like the size
Speaker 2: of like a regular pencil, like your standard number two pencil. Hmm.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, this is the size of a pencil. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, I could see that fitting in a dick hole.
Speaker 1: There we go, all right, I just did you? Did you?
Speaker 5: Did you?
Speaker 1: Did you shove this cane and this guy's dick hole?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I did, Yes, I did, And I felt real
Speaker 2: icky do in it, But he was like, it's fine,
Speaker 2: Just I'll give you a bunch of pot when this
Speaker 2: is over with. And I was like, okay, whatever, but
Speaker 2: that's not the worst part. So after that he sorry,
Speaker 2: I get like blish thinking about it, but he was like, hey,
Speaker 2: I want you to. He wanted me to shove tick
Speaker 2: tacks down there and crunch them with my teeth. So
Speaker 2: mm hmm. And so I did it down there.
Speaker 1: You shoved fours into this guy's dick hole and.
Speaker 2: Then yeah, yeah, and crunched thems like crunched on his
Speaker 2: pepe and it made me feel really gross because I
Speaker 2: was scared I was hurting him. And then he was like, no,
Speaker 2: you can do it harder, and I was like, oh
Speaker 2: and I should I need I'm sorry a little bit
Speaker 2: of context. The only reason that I met up with
Speaker 2: this guy is because I saw his picture on the
Speaker 2: site right, which was of his beetpeet and it was
Speaker 2: real large, like a monster can, which didn't fit his
Speaker 2: looks at all, very off putting. That Humpty Dumpty has
Speaker 2: like a like freaking schlong.
Speaker 1: How did they fit in?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: How did they? How did you fit for tic tacks
Speaker 1: into this guy's dickle?
Speaker 2: Very carefully?
Speaker 1: Where does it?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: What how did he get how did he get him
Speaker 1: out of there?
Speaker 2: I told you, I crunched him up and so then
Speaker 2: he went in pe after and I got him out.
Speaker 1: I guess let let les leslie real quick just before
Speaker 1: we go any further with this, okay, and again, human
Speaker 1: being to human being, please like just like forget about
Speaker 1: the part like just you like Leslie? Yeah, are you
Speaker 1: fucking with me right now?
Speaker 2: I swear to God I'm not.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, all right, So so go ahead, keep going
Speaker 1: if you want to keep going.
Speaker 2: Okay. I left, and I used to work at a dominoes,
Speaker 2: and so I walked into the dominance where I worked,
Speaker 2: and I told my boss, it was also my roommate,
Speaker 2: that I was probably gonna need to take the next
Speaker 2: day off of work to recuperate the ship that just happened.
Speaker 2: And then I went home. I didn't tell him all
Speaker 2: the details because I didn't feel comfortable. I just said
Speaker 2: I needed some time. And I went home and I
Speaker 2: smoked like a whole half ounce of pot and I
Speaker 2: think I slept for like two days, and I just
Speaker 2: try not to think about it. But I've been thinking
Speaker 2: about it a lot lately, especially since I'm on that site.
Speaker 2: And he reached out to me again recent you wanting
Speaker 2: me to okay again, You're you're.
Speaker 1: You're back, You're back on the website.
Speaker 2: Oh, I never.
Speaker 1: Left Okay, how how old are you now?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 2: Twenty six?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so this was this TikTok Oh so
Speaker 1: this was like seven years ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this happened a long time ago.
Speaker 1: That tiktac thing is what is maybe one of the
Speaker 1: most that tic tac thing is probably it's at least
Speaker 1: that tiktac thing. I know, like, I know I've thrown
Speaker 1: I know I've thrown this around a lot. That tictac
Speaker 1: thing is probably top three most fucked up things I
Speaker 1: have heard doing this.
Speaker 2: I'm glad I could contribute, but hey, just imagine how ill.
Speaker 1: Of course, of course.
Speaker 2: About it, but it's all fucked up like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah? Uh, how you how you doing?
Speaker 2: Oh I'm good now I call him down. Okay, I'm
Speaker 2: married with kids now are you?
Speaker 1: Are you serious?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You're married with kids now?
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Wait, so why are you still on the website?
Speaker 2: Me and my husband are both on it.
Speaker 1: Oh you meet your.
Speaker 2: Yeah I did, Actually I met him on that site.
Speaker 2: Really he was he was supposed to be a one
Speaker 2: night stand mm hmm, but I guess I was just
Speaker 2: too good.
Speaker 1: How long have you and your husband been.
Speaker 2: Together a little bit over five years?
Speaker 1: Wow? Hmmm. Uh uh, that's awesome. How old are your kids?
Speaker 2: Uh? I got an eight year old, a five year old,
Speaker 2: and a seven month old. Okay wait, I should clarify
Speaker 2: two of those are step kids. Oh okay, but I
Speaker 2: consider them my children because I've been around the five
Speaker 2: year old. I mean I've been around since he was
Speaker 2: a baby, because my husband and his ex wife they
Speaker 2: divorced while she was like before she even found out
Speaker 2: she was pregnant with him.
Speaker 1: What. What's this website?
Speaker 2: It's called fet life. It's not paid or anything. It's
Speaker 2: just like, oh, okay, I didn't know. Some people aren't
Speaker 2: super familiar with it, at least not where I'm from.
Speaker 1: A well are you are? Have you ever talked to
Speaker 1: a real therapist about any of this?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 2: I went to therapy for like two or three years,
Speaker 2: but that wasn't really one of the things that I
Speaker 2: talked about was way more traumatic shit happened to me
Speaker 2: than that. I look at it as like a funny
Speaker 2: little story, but that was also really fucked up because
Speaker 2: I was young and dumb and made bad decisions. I
Speaker 2: just did it because why not, you only lived once?
Speaker 2: Was my mindset at the time.
Speaker 1: How is how's being a mom way way different, way different.
Speaker 2: It's awesome, though, yeah, it's real rewarding. It's different because well,
Speaker 2: I just I grew up the oldest of ten siblings,
Speaker 2: and so when I got out of that, I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't want to have kids. I've already raised like
Speaker 2: five kids. And then I actually got told I was
Speaker 2: infertile and thought I couldn't have kids for a long time,
Speaker 2: and I was like, sweet, I only have to pay
Speaker 2: for fucking birth control. And then I guess. And then
Speaker 2: just one day, I just guessed. My ovaries were like,
Speaker 2: you know what, we're gonna do our jobs.
Speaker 1: And release an agg and oh so it was an accident.
Speaker 2: Oh but I love it like a happy accident. You know.
Speaker 2: That was actually my birth announcement was Bob Ross. It's
Speaker 2: like there are no mistakes, just happy little accidents.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mm hmm. Well, let's know, I'm glad. I'm
Speaker 1: glad to hear that you. You sound like you are
Speaker 1: happy and enjoying life. Oh yeah, I scold I could.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry I gave you possibly secondhand uh it trauma
Speaker 2: from that.
Speaker 1: I look, man, you know, you know, look, you know you.
Speaker 2: Know yeah, yeah, you know, the worst part is that
Speaker 2: after that happened, I got really into the dominatrix world
Speaker 2: and I did that as like a profession for like
Speaker 2: two or three years. And that's still the most fucked
Speaker 2: up thing anyone has asked me to do to them.
Speaker 2: And he let me keep the cane, and I kept
Speaker 2: it for a long time. It was like a trophy.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mm hmm. Oh wait you you kept the cane?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh wow, what.
Speaker 2: Do you let me keep it?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: So, whenever I first had it, this is really fucked up,
Speaker 2: but I would I would smack people with it, and.
Speaker 1: You gotta fucking you gotta keep that fucking thing under
Speaker 1: like contamination my friends.
Speaker 2: Oh, I sanitized every love and shit out of that
Speaker 2: thing where I got home with it. But I was like,
Speaker 2: you know what, I worked damn hard for this, so
Speaker 2: I guess I'm gonna keep it. And then and then
Speaker 2: I met my husband and he was like, watch this,
Speaker 2: and I told him and he was like, we should
Speaker 2: throw that shit away, and let's do it away.
Speaker 1: So you and your husband are together on this on
Speaker 1: this website. Are you guys like looking for like a
Speaker 1: third or are you guys having your own independent fun experiences.
Speaker 2: For right now. Mainly just everything that we do we
Speaker 2: do together. So it could be a third it could
Speaker 2: be other couples, more like a swinger situation, but it's
Speaker 2: all together, like we don't do anything without the other person.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so you do everything together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been pretty fun because I was worried about
Speaker 2: it because you know, things like that relationships can be messy.
Speaker 2: But we've been really open and honest with each other
Speaker 2: about it, so there have been like zero and like,
Speaker 2: you know, problems with it.
Speaker 1: Mmmmm, yeah, well, I guess that's kind of the nice
Speaker 1: thing about having met your husband on a website like that.
Speaker 1: It's like it seems as though it attracts other people
Speaker 1: who are quote unquote down.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I met a lot of freaking
Speaker 2: crazies on there though, but that's also because of where
Speaker 2: I live, because you said you're familiar with the site.
Speaker 2: So it's mainly just you can look for people in
Speaker 2: your local area and I'll live in like the bump
Speaker 2: fuck middle of nowhere. Meth had pounds, so m a
Speaker 2: lot of crazies on there.
Speaker 1: You said you don't have officials too. What you said
Speaker 1: that you don't have, like you haven't told these stories
Speaker 1: to like your friends or anything.
Speaker 2: No. I told my husband obviously because he found the
Speaker 2: cane and because you know, I feel like he deserved
Speaker 2: to know my my past before he uh put a
Speaker 2: ring on it. But no, I was too embarrassed to
Speaker 2: tell anybody else.
Speaker 5: Mm hmmm hmm.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that that tic Tac thing, it definitely is
Speaker 1: one of the top three. There was a guy who
Speaker 1: told a story about a lady killing a dog in
Speaker 1: her car and that it's either that or the tic
Speaker 1: Tac thing.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like it was the dog
Speaker 2: is worse because the dog is innocent in all this,
Speaker 2: and that guy is a freak, so he kind of
Speaker 2: deserved it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, do you I do you have? I don't
Speaker 1: know if you listened to the podcast, but have you
Speaker 1: heard that dog thing?
Speaker 2: No? I haven't. I do listen to your podcast, just
Speaker 2: not super awesome because you know, Mama three, I'm busy
Speaker 2: a lot, but I listen whenever I get an ofication
Speaker 2: on twitch.
Speaker 1: You have you have three kids?
Speaker 2: Well, like I said, I got two step kids and
Speaker 2: then I have my seven month old, so right right,
Speaker 2: and they stay with and my step kids stay with
Speaker 2: us for like two weeks at a time. Cool, and
Speaker 2: and I'm really close with them and bonded. So I
Speaker 2: consider myself, you know, another parent. I know I'm not
Speaker 2: their mom and I didn't carry them and push them out,
Speaker 2: but I love them just the same.
Speaker 1: Are you are you? Are you happy?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean for the most part, you know, but
Speaker 2: I feel like that's everyone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great. I don't think that is everyone.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, like I think I think it goes
Speaker 2: through that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, well I think if you can answer well,
Speaker 1: if you can, if you can answer that question with yes,
Speaker 1: for the most part, you're in the top one percent
Speaker 1: of humanity, I think.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 1: So doing good, doing good. Thank you for sharing, Leslie.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we.
Speaker 2: Go, make good choices about who you have sex with
Speaker 2: whenever you are nineteen. That's the last thing I want
Speaker 2: to say. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: God bless you lessly take care. I do not have
Speaker 1: any post call thoughts for that.
Speaker 3: Hello, what's up man?
Speaker 1: How you doing buddy? What's your name?
Speaker 3: My name is Eric, Eric.
Speaker 1: What what do you do? What do you what do
Speaker 1: you what are you doing? What are you doing right now?
Speaker 3: Making a cup of coffee? Playing some World of Warcraft?
Speaker 1: Waiting on that PVPQ he okay, all right, are you
Speaker 1: gonna Are you gonna talk to me while you play
Speaker 1: World of Warcraft?
Speaker 3: No? Right now, I'm sitting here AFK drinking my coffee.
Speaker 1: My dude, cool. It is an honor to be a
Speaker 1: K while you are a FK because I am I
Speaker 1: am currently ak. What's up? What's up? What's up? Buddy?
Speaker 1: How you doing? How's life? Man?
Speaker 3: Life's been a train ride, dude. Last two years have
Speaker 3: been pretty hectic. Man. I got a DUI and they
Speaker 3: waited about a year to serve the warrant and lost
Speaker 3: my license after that, and it's just been a little
Speaker 3: bit downhill on the journey to being sober since then.
Speaker 1: Where are you at on the journey right now?
Speaker 3: I'm about four three and a half, almost four months sober, sober?
Speaker 1: Okay, how you liking it?
Speaker 3: It's very depressing realizing that all the people you've surrounded
Speaker 3: yourself with are self destructive and not there for you
Speaker 3: when you need them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, do you do you have like drinking buddies
Speaker 1: who like once you got sober, you couldn't I guess,
Speaker 1: relate to them, or maybe they were resentful of you
Speaker 1: or anything like that.
Speaker 3: Not necessarily resentful. We just kind of all went ways.
Speaker 3: And it was pretty much everybody I've grown up with
Speaker 3: since being a teenager. Man, I'm thirty years old now,
Speaker 3: and it was just everywhere I went and everywhere around
Speaker 3: me it was drugs, partying, and drinking. And after thirteen
Speaker 3: fourteen years, it took its toll and I became a
Speaker 3: diehard alcoholic and couldn't live without my booze.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so what was it that made you want to quit?
Speaker 3: Well, I was on probation from the DUI that they
Speaker 3: served the war on and well, still I am on
Speaker 3: probation and a night of drinking with my friends ended
Speaker 3: in a fight and argument and my girlfriend at the time,
Speaker 3: and we both got arrested, me for violating her for
Speaker 3: being drunk and disorderly in public while I was being arrested,
Speaker 3: and it led to us separating. She got out of
Speaker 3: jail the next day, but I spent a month and
Speaker 3: they wait for the judge getting my probation back. And yeah,
Speaker 3: we haven't really spoke since then, and since I spent
Speaker 3: a month in there, was my first month sober, and
Speaker 3: it just gave me a lot of clarity on the
Speaker 3: situation and my environments I was putting myself in, and
Speaker 3: it's it's just been a not being not being able
Speaker 3: to re reconcile or apologize to a lot of people
Speaker 3: has been hard to say the least.
Speaker 1: Tell yeah, tell me more about like that clarity if
Speaker 1: you want.
Speaker 3: Well, you see everything you did wrong when people people
Speaker 3: telling you, hey, you need to slow down or sober up,
Speaker 3: and then you realize how far in they are, and
Speaker 3: you see people more talking to themselves when they're telling
Speaker 3: you to get clean and sober and do better for
Speaker 3: yourself than they'll ever speak to themselves in the mirror,
Speaker 3: and you just wish you could help them as much
Speaker 3: as you. But you know, I've reached that part of
Speaker 3: my journey myself. I've lost enough to where I want
Speaker 3: to go forth with it. And I just wonder how
Speaker 3: long until some of my friends finally get to that point,
Speaker 3: you know?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean it's tough because like h it's well,
Speaker 1: it's tough because you just you it's such a thing
Speaker 1: that's out of your hands, right, Well, what's your journey?
Speaker 1: Like I mean, I I guess, well, so it's been
Speaker 1: four months. Yeah, in in those four months, I would
Speaker 1: guess that after realizing that this group of friends that
Speaker 1: you have does not align with the the lifestyle you
Speaker 1: are attempting to create for yourself, Now, are you trying
Speaker 1: to find a new group of friends or a new lifestyle,
Speaker 1: Because it's weird, because like if if your whole life
Speaker 1: is one thing and you're like, oh, this is not
Speaker 1: suiting me anymore, I'm gonna get rid of it, you will, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you will be like totally bored and depressed because everything
Speaker 1: you fucking new is gone. Then there's nothing else.
Speaker 3: But that's pretty much from that. Man, can't go to
Speaker 3: the bar anymore. Just have fun, watch the game. You
Speaker 3: see it as a problem for yourself if you're there
Speaker 3: too long, and it's it's hard to find new people.
Speaker 3: You've been around with the same people since middle school
Speaker 3: and high school, and everybody you knew you met through
Speaker 3: them or because of them or with them, And it's
Speaker 3: been really hard to put myself back out there. I
Speaker 3: have definitely I've got on Facebook dating just to communicate
Speaker 3: with people in such a toxic place, but try to
Speaker 3: start conversations and stuff and try to meet new people,
Speaker 3: I suppose, but I'm more afraid to even leave my
Speaker 3: house nowadays. Honestly, if it's not trying to find a
Speaker 3: job or make some money or stick to myself, then
Speaker 3: I'm not really putting myself out there to be around anybody.
Speaker 3: M Yeah, that's a problem in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh yeah, it's exhausting, it's fucking I mean, are
Speaker 1: you when you say Facebook dating, are you like trying
Speaker 1: to find like a new GF or are you trying
Speaker 1: to find friends?
Speaker 3: Well, they have like the friendship option on there, and
Speaker 3: I've just opened the conversation get me out of my
Speaker 3: own box. You know, I'm not really the person I
Speaker 3: lost a couple of months ago, really really latched onto
Speaker 3: and really had a lot of plans with so losing
Speaker 3: them kind of like put me in a box, so
Speaker 3: to say, to where I'm closing myself off from that
Speaker 3: kind of connection and just trying to make a new
Speaker 3: group of friends, someone I could go play D and
Speaker 3: D with, if that, or even game night, just to
Speaker 3: go play some cards, some magic or something, you know,
Speaker 3: And it's not really easy to find those groups of people,
Speaker 3: and especially not a sober one. Nowadays, we've all got
Speaker 3: our problems where we all got our clicks and their niches,
Speaker 3: and timing is a issue being an adult, sadly, so
Speaker 3: it's I found it easier to stick myself in home
Speaker 3: and just play Solitaire or PvP on Warcraft, you know,
Speaker 3: and then then waste my time and put myself out
Speaker 3: there to get hurt again.
Speaker 1: Mm yeah, yeah, hmmm, well, well, I I mean, if
Speaker 1: I can give you my optimistic take on this, because
Speaker 1: uh yeah, it's like it's a lot of like building
Speaker 1: a life that you like and at a community that
Speaker 1: you like is a lot of fucking work, and it
Speaker 1: takes a lot of time and a lot of effort
Speaker 1: and a lot of disappointment because you're you're particularly working
Speaker 1: in the realm of things you can't control, right when
Speaker 1: you're trying to build a community or trying to make friends,
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of because you're, yeah, you're playing
Speaker 1: politics without being You're trying to like get other people
Speaker 1: to join your life, and that's hard because you don't
Speaker 1: you don't have control over other people. But I guess
Speaker 1: you have control over like how you go about doing
Speaker 1: it and whether or not you put the effort into
Speaker 1: doing it. But what I My optimistic point of this is,
Speaker 1: like you said, you said, some great stuff just now
Speaker 1: is like you know, you're in the D and D
Speaker 1: and you're in the board games and you're all this
Speaker 1: and you're into all this ship and this is like
Speaker 1: land ship. You know, this is like, well, cass, what
Speaker 1: we're part of the universe you live in.
Speaker 3: I'm in North Florida.
Speaker 1: You're in North Florida. You tell me, you're telling me
Speaker 1: you don't think you can go on uh the fucking
Speaker 1: Internet and assemble a group of six other uh nerdy,
Speaker 1: lonely therety year old men to play D and D with.
Speaker 3: I'm sure it's possible, man, but.
Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm sure they exist.
Speaker 3: Trust somebody in order to, you know, to walk into
Speaker 3: someone's home or he allows them to walk into your
Speaker 3: home after going through so much. It's just a new journey,
Speaker 3: I'm on.
Speaker 1: I suppose yeah, yeah, it takes some time. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: you said impress somebody.
Speaker 3: I forget not impressed. I forget the terminology I use.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry to trust to somebody to be able.
Speaker 1: To walk to their home or allow them walk in
Speaker 1: your home.
Speaker 3: It's just the no, like leaving the table where you
Speaker 3: do everybody have to sit down at a table full
Speaker 3: of strangers. It's well, it's riddled with anxiety. You know,
Speaker 3: it's a scary thing, even at thirty years old.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know it. It sucks, Yeah, it it
Speaker 1: it sucks. It's weird.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: There's like a there are it's sort of a tale
Speaker 1: as old as time that there are like pros and
Speaker 1: cons of being alone and closing yourself off, and then
Speaker 1: pros and cons of allowing other people to come into
Speaker 1: your life. And it's a very personal decision as to, uh,
Speaker 1: which of those things you're willing to put up with?
Speaker 1: Like nothing's free, nothing's none of these there's nothing's ever
Speaker 1: like uh problem lists. You could even be you could
Speaker 1: be in the most happy fucking marriage or a group
Speaker 1: of friends, and that you're putting up with something. And
Speaker 1: you just decide what you want to put up with
Speaker 1: and what you want to expose yourself to because you
Speaker 1: can go, you can say to your you can say
Speaker 1: to yourself, you know what, I've weighed the pros and cons,
Speaker 1: and I would rather sit at home for the next
Speaker 1: fifty years of my life playing World of Warcraft and
Speaker 1: feeling safe and comfortable and I would rather, I would
Speaker 1: rather deal with loneliness and depression in exchange for this safety,
Speaker 1: or you can go, well, okay, I'd rather deal with
Speaker 1: the idea that I could trust someone and get fucked over.
Speaker 1: But you know, have friends, and I'd rather deal with
Speaker 1: the awkwardness and uncomfortability of effort. I'd rather deal with
Speaker 1: the effort required to put myself out there then be lonely,
Speaker 1: right and you and it's there's pros and cons to
Speaker 1: each of them, but it's a really personal decision as
Speaker 1: to what you want to choose. But yeah, they it
Speaker 1: all all this letting people into your life comes with
Speaker 1: its own set of fuckery, and being alone comes with
Speaker 1: its own set of fuckery. I'm gonna go out on
Speaker 1: I'm just my own personal because I've yeah, spent time
Speaker 1: alone and spent time with other people and observing, you know,
Speaker 1: talking to other people who are entrenched in communities and
Speaker 1: observing and talking to other people who are alone and
Speaker 1: have no one, and it always comes with its own
Speaker 1: set of stuff. Personally, I kind of think it's better
Speaker 1: to try. I think again, it's a very personal decision,
Speaker 1: but from my own point of view, it's better to
Speaker 1: try and put yourself out there and risk getting you
Speaker 1: knows that trust being fucked then to just stay closed
Speaker 1: off forever. And yeah, that's my personal decision. That's that's
Speaker 1: how I look at my own life. But uh uh,
Speaker 1: you know, so it's up to you. That's my that's
Speaker 1: my little thought about it.
Speaker 3: Well you said it's pretty sure and never looked at
Speaker 3: it that way. You're you're trading the comfortability and ask
Speaker 3: the comfortability and the safetiness in your own home. You're
Speaker 3: trading that for the option of being around people and
Speaker 3: being uh in a communal environment. But getting through getting
Speaker 3: through that barrier from wanting safety and Christine environment that
Speaker 3: you could be trustful in is what I'm finding hard
Speaker 3: Like I would agree that getting out there and putting
Speaker 3: yourself out there would be the best course of action
Speaker 3: then wallowing and misery and impression and but trading safety
Speaker 3: is like, it doesn't make sense to my brain right now,
Speaker 3: and it makes me very fearful for like how I
Speaker 3: view the future and how long I'll allow this to
Speaker 3: take control of me. And that's that's really what I'm finding,
Speaker 3: is that not allowing it to take control of me,
Speaker 3: to not to not give up entirely on people and
Speaker 3: in general.
Speaker 2: M hm m hmm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what's uh what's preventing you from
Speaker 1: uh hashtag just do it?
Speaker 3: I guess nothing other than just fear.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah that the the I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: the philosophy behind it is one thing. But the you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, are there any like little thing like?
Speaker 1: Are there any like little things you want to do?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: What? Why don't you fucking I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Uh. I have ideas if you want ideas,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I don't know. Uh. I could
Speaker 1: give you ideas if you want ideas.
Speaker 3: I've always open to ideas, mister Lyle. It's I've never
Speaker 3: been one like this, Like to make make a long
Speaker 3: story quick, I've hiked to Applatan Trail, I've traveled the country.
Speaker 3: I was a ski tech and veil for two years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, look at.
Speaker 3: Carolina and sixteen during the wildfires. I've done a lot
Speaker 3: of things in life, so it for me so withdrawn now.
Speaker 3: Like during all those moments, I was hammered out of
Speaker 3: my mind. I was eating acid, I was traveling the country,
Speaker 3: smoking all the weed I could, doing everything I could,
Speaker 3: and then once all of it stops, I'm so stationary
Speaker 3: and afraid of even putting myself out there to chase
Speaker 3: a wildfire. It's I don't know. I guess the alcohol
Speaker 3: put it in me to be brave, the drugs played
Speaker 3: on me to not care and chase for the next one.
Speaker 3: You know, But.
Speaker 1: Can I go? Now? Go ahead? I want to let
Speaker 1: you finish. Go ahead?
Speaker 3: No, go ahead?
Speaker 1: Now you finished first? You finished first.
Speaker 3: I've already lost the train of thought, my man.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, can I can I have permission? Can I?
Speaker 1: Can I have permission? Uh to to go cheesy motivational
Speaker 1: speaker mode on you real quick, just for a second. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna what's your name again?
Speaker 6: Eric?
Speaker 1: Listen? Eric, I think uh I I I will invite
Speaker 1: you to uh change your perspective on this because I
Speaker 1: believe that whatever is in your uh uh brain and
Speaker 1: balls that cause you to do all these things, maybe
Speaker 1: maybe sure was aided by doing a ton of acid
Speaker 1: and getting fucked up. Sure, I'm not gonna discount that.
Speaker 1: That would be unrealistic. But the but the adventurous things
Speaker 1: that you just described, the the lust for life that
Speaker 1: you described I think is a thing that came from
Speaker 1: your actual brain and from you, and I think to
Speaker 1: I think it's a brutal mistake of you to give
Speaker 1: credit to Booze for those things, and I would urge
Speaker 1: you to evaluate truly if Booze deserves, you know whatever,
Speaker 1: give Booze twenty percent, Give give Booze, give Booze seventy percent,
Speaker 1: if you want to give Booze seventy percent, but take
Speaker 1: your thirty percent on a credit for doing those things.
Speaker 1: Take you know, take it. Take whatever credit you can
Speaker 1: that you will are gonna reasonably give to yourself for
Speaker 1: those things, and take it to the fucking bank and go.
Speaker 1: You know, look, at least I'll at least credit myself
Speaker 1: thirty percent with hiking the Appellation Trail. Acid could have
Speaker 1: seventy percent, but I'm gonna take the thirty percent of
Speaker 1: credit for hiking the Appllation Trail. There is something in
Speaker 1: my my brain and gut and of me and of
Speaker 1: my essence that does those things, and I'm gonna use
Speaker 1: my fucking whatever to tap into that so that I
Speaker 1: can go attend a stupid Dungeons and Dragons events, you know,
Speaker 1: sober so, yeah, do do with that, whatever you will, I.
Speaker 3: Totally agree to you. I definitely got to give myself
Speaker 3: some credit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, give yourself some credit. You don't have to end
Speaker 1: like whatever you're comfortable with, give us, give alcohol eighty
Speaker 1: percent of the credit, but get you gotta give yourself something.
Speaker 3: Right, You're absolutely right, mister Lyle. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Oh man, that sounds fun. I want to go to
Speaker 1: a dungeons I want to go. I want to go
Speaker 1: to a Dungeons and Dragons thing. Maybe. Uh, yeah, that
Speaker 1: sounds fun. That sounds fun. It does sound like it
Speaker 1: would be fun to get fucked up and go. It
Speaker 1: does sound like that's a fun Yeah. Alcohol is Alcohol
Speaker 1: is a tough one. Yeah, because it's like I've never been.
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, everybody does it. It's in every
Speaker 3: event you can't you can't watch a sports game or
Speaker 3: go to a friend's birthday party at someone drinking a
Speaker 3: beer or offering it to you. Yeah, And I don't
Speaker 3: see that as the hard part. I see more people,
Speaker 3: I see it more. I see it harder to watch
Speaker 3: people that are or farther in the hole than I
Speaker 3: am now continue to put themselves in the hole. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because I don't want to be like, oh, I'm sober,
Speaker 3: you need to get sober too. I'm not that person,
Speaker 3: but I don't. I'm not going to sit there and
Speaker 3: watch you drink yourself as a whole then get to
Speaker 3: your car and.
Speaker 6: Drive like you couldn't do that, Like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 6: people see it as you're the you're the Debbie Downer
Speaker 6: and they don't want to be around you no more,
Speaker 6: or you just decide not to be around them because
Speaker 6: you're tired of it, explaining that you're like, hey, I
Speaker 6: ruined my life.
Speaker 3: Let's not do that together.
Speaker 1: Yeah you can't. I listen. I hope, I hope you
Speaker 1: maintain uh, the optimism that you will find a new
Speaker 1: group of people to hang out with.
Speaker 3: It'll take some time, but I'm sure I'll find it
Speaker 3: in me to be able to get out eventually. Yeah.
Speaker 1: God, damn, that's all you need. That's all you need.
Speaker 1: I have things. I have a lot of U ship
Speaker 1: like that where I'm like, you know, think I don't.
Speaker 1: Things you know are not going the way I absolutely
Speaker 1: want them to write this very moment, but I'm I
Speaker 1: maintain steady optimism that they will eventually because I'm gonna
Speaker 1: just like fucking figure this out. Uh, So you know,
Speaker 1: as long as you have that, you'll you'll maybe probably
Speaker 1: who knows, be fine.
Speaker 3: Right, Just don't give up, dude. I'm sure life is
Speaker 3: a struggle. We're all going through something that puts us down,
Speaker 3: and every everybody has a hurdle to get to the
Speaker 3: next step in the next day. So definitely don't put
Speaker 3: yourself down in your process. Man. I know you're traveling
Speaker 3: a lot, and you're you're posting your you're two to
Speaker 3: three times a week, you're on the air. Just uh,
Speaker 3: just make sure you take care of yourself in that
Speaker 3: process as well.
Speaker 1: My friend, you know, I uh, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't, I don't know anything anymore. I'm
Speaker 1: actually I'm really happy that we had this conversation because
Speaker 1: for the past twenty minutes, I think giving you that
Speaker 1: motivational speech, I got to live in the Yeah, I
Speaker 1: got to for twenty minutes, I got to live in
Speaker 1: a world where I felt like I knew something and
Speaker 1: that was good. So this was a good conversation, hopefully
Speaker 1: for both of us. Hopefully for both of us.
Speaker 3: Definitely, I'm definitely leaving with something from it, and man,
Speaker 3: just so you know, for the last four months going
Speaker 3: through I've been going through, I've been listening to your
Speaker 3: podcast at least two or three episodes a day, just bored.
Speaker 3: It helps me out, helped me a lot. You definitely
Speaker 3: are helping people out there, and you're teaching people things.
Speaker 3: You're making people realize the things that they don't realize
Speaker 3: by themselves, and I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Man, Thanks, Eric, I appreciate that. Man, I'm trying my best.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 3: Don't give up. Love yourself as much as you love
Speaker 3: the person in the front or beside you. Take care of.
Speaker 1: Yourselves, all right, Go have a beer. You earned it.
Speaker 1: Just kidding, all right?
Speaker 3: See your letter, Eric night Mustow.
Speaker 1: I like that guy. He was a cool guy. Do
Speaker 1: I have any post call thoughts about that? I'm sure
Speaker 1: I do. I'm sure I do. I feel good in
Speaker 1: this moment. I drank a coffee before. Sometimes I should.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I show up to do this podcast and I
Speaker 1: just feel like a dead guy and I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't have the like I just I yeah, I just
Speaker 1: I don't have the thing. I think to be able
Speaker 1: to do this. But then I sometimes I show up
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I feel good right now. I feel
Speaker 1: like it's a my I was talking to a friend
Speaker 1: the other day and I was telling her, I was like,
Speaker 1: sometimes I show up to do this podcast and I
Speaker 1: just like don't feel like I can I have the
Speaker 1: like I can give to it. Like I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I can give to it what
Speaker 1: what I think it demands, you know. And she told me,
Speaker 1: she was like, why don't you just use it, like
Speaker 1: as a thought experiment to just be just be like
Speaker 1: when you're on the phone with someone, just be like,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be in the fucking moment with this
Speaker 1: one person at this time and not think about how
Speaker 1: it is being perceived as a conversation or like anything
Speaker 1: like that. Just like, can I challenge myself is just
Speaker 1: as a thought process to just be in the moment
Speaker 1: with the person I'm talking to, and like how I like,
Speaker 1: how like because I have you know, I talk a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of shit on this podcast about like perspective
Speaker 1: or whatnot, but I have tons of shitty perspectives and
Speaker 1: I'm trying to uh rattle him and get him better.
Speaker 1: Uh so I don't know. Yeah, that's what I'm gonna do,
Speaker 1: at least today and all. So it's easier because of coffee.
Speaker 1: Coffee is good.
Speaker 5: Holy shit?
Speaker 1: Hey, what's up? Hi? Hello? Where are you? Are you
Speaker 1: at a party or something?
Speaker 5: I was at a bar and now I'm outside.
Speaker 1: What bar were you at?
Speaker 5: It's called Hammerhead?
Speaker 1: Hammerhead? Tell me about the bar. What kind of bar
Speaker 1: is it?
Speaker 5: It's a dive bar. It is by at a beach town.
Speaker 1: Are you on vacation or do you do? You live
Speaker 1: in this beach town?
Speaker 5: I live in the beach town.
Speaker 1: Oh can I ask? Can I ask? Where you are? Yeah?
Speaker 5: It's called Amelia Island.
Speaker 1: Amelia Island? Is that where the plane lady went missing?
Speaker 2: I Amelia?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Uh no, I don't think that's where she went missing.
Speaker 1: Where is a meal? I've never heard of Emilia Island?
Speaker 1: Where is this?
Speaker 5: It's in Florida, North Florida.
Speaker 1: Okay, So how's living on an island? And how's how
Speaker 1: is living in a Florida beachtown? That sounds like that
Speaker 1: sounds like something I would have dreamed of doing when
Speaker 1: I was a boy.
Speaker 5: Uh you know, when you grow up here it's a
Speaker 5: little different, like you want to get out, but it's
Speaker 5: now that I'm older, it's pretty fucking sweet. I'm not
Speaker 5: gonna lie.
Speaker 1: You sound like you're having a fun time. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: sound like you're having a good time.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I've been trying to call you for so long,
Speaker 5: and I'm so excited to be talking to you right now.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to be talking to you too. The fact
Speaker 1: that you and I are talking means that both of
Speaker 1: us have not died yet, which is really good. I think.
Speaker 1: I don't watch. I don't know. Death could be better
Speaker 1: than uh, life, but I don't want to I'll find
Speaker 1: that out eventually. For now, I'm going to.
Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, I like live.
Speaker 1: What's your name again, Lula, Lola, Lula, Lula, l U,
Speaker 1: l A. That's it, Lula. What a great name, Lula?
Speaker 1: What's up? How you doing you? Is there anything? Is
Speaker 1: there anything ahead?
Speaker 5: I'm so sorry. I just want to tell you, like,
Speaker 5: I met my boyfriend because of you, and that's what.
Speaker 2: I really need to talk about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 5: So we I went to I live in Florida, and
Speaker 5: I went to the Atlanta show just because I go
Speaker 5: to Atlanta kind of often. And I met my boyfriend
Speaker 5: there and now he lives with me and we've been
Speaker 5: together for like four or five months.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's so cool. I love that. That's amazing. How
Speaker 1: did can I? So, did you go to the show
Speaker 1: by yourself?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I did, and then I met him at the bar.
Speaker 5: It was at the earl and yeah, I sat next
Speaker 5: to him and then we just started talking and he
Speaker 5: was alone too, and then we went in together.
Speaker 2: We met you.
Speaker 5: We were the people that came in both shows, which
Speaker 5: I don't know if that happens often.
Speaker 4: M M.
Speaker 1: That's so cool. And what did he come alone too?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Wow? This is uh, this is this is this is great.
Speaker 1: This is great promotion for when I do my next tour.
Speaker 5: It really is. We want you to associate the wedding
Speaker 5: when it happened.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll say if you, if you, here's my promise
Speaker 1: to you is if you promised to do the wedding
Speaker 1: within a fifteen minute walk of wherever I currently am
Speaker 1: in the world at that time, I I one hundred percent,
Speaker 1: we'll do, we'll do, We'll officiate your wedding.
Speaker 5: Heard that.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: No, that's sick. That's fucking really cool. I'm really stoked
Speaker 1: about that. Can I can I ask them? So, what
Speaker 1: can you tell me a little bit more about like
Speaker 1: what was the conversation you guys first had, Like what
Speaker 1: was it?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: Would you guys talk about.
Speaker 5: Like, uh, well he was well he was a chef.
Speaker 5: Now he does something different. So and I used to cook.
Speaker 5: So we talked about that for a long time and
Speaker 5: then it just kind of ventured off. We did coke
Speaker 5: the whole night.
Speaker 2: It was cool as fuck, you guys.
Speaker 1: You guys stayed up all night after the Therapy Get
Speaker 1: Go show doing cocaine together.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, so he did it.
Speaker 1: Sounds it sounds like that sounds like an awesome night.
Speaker 1: Actually what d did he?
Speaker 3: All?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 1: Let me so let's say that. Uh, I'm I'm curious
Speaker 1: about this because like if a young gentleman comes alone
Speaker 1: to a therapy Gecko show and he and he sees
Speaker 1: and he sees another lady that he likes, and maybe
Speaker 1: he's scared to like go up and talk to her.
Speaker 1: I think people get people get fixated on like, oh
Speaker 1: what do I say? Like like because what because the
Speaker 1: middle of a conversation is the easiest part. It's the
Speaker 1: it's the like courage to start one. That's the hardest thing.
Speaker 1: So that's that's what I'm curious about. What what was
Speaker 1: the first thing he said to you?
Speaker 5: Well, I said something to him because he was sitting
Speaker 5: alone and there was an empty bar school next to him.
Speaker 5: So I came up and I was like, Hey, is
Speaker 5: anyone sitting here? And he was like no, And then
Speaker 5: I was like hey to the bartender, I was like,
Speaker 5: am I here for the right thing?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 5: Am I here for therapy? Get go? Because I was
Speaker 5: pretty confused, not gonna lie because it didn't look like
Speaker 5: there was a stage or anything. And then so he
Speaker 5: heard me say that, and he was like, oh my god,
Speaker 5: you're here for therapy. Get and I said yeah, obviously, boy,
Speaker 5: and then we just started talking after that.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. So you started talking to him, Well, okay,
Speaker 1: so it sounds like like you you It sounds like
Speaker 1: you slid in a tiny little thing of like, I
Speaker 1: am open to speaking with other people in this room
Speaker 1: right now. And then he and then he was like
Speaker 1: and then he and then and then and then he
Speaker 1: picked up on that, and that made a little bit easier. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: all right. Yeah, so yeah, so it wasn't like, hey,
Speaker 1: you come here often kind of a vibe.
Speaker 5: No, no, not like that.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, but he's I guess he still had to
Speaker 1: have the situational awareness to pick up on your little,
Speaker 1: your little cue of being open to speaking with other people.
Speaker 1: In that moment, he did you gave you get You
Speaker 1: gave it like by by initiating the conversation of hey,
Speaker 1: is anyone sitting here you I think you gave you
Speaker 1: gave him a lot to work with there. Then if
Speaker 1: then if he was, then if you were like sitting
Speaker 1: there on your phone and he had to come in
Speaker 1: and be like, hey, are you here for the Gecko
Speaker 1: show and risk you being like I don't know what
Speaker 1: the fuck that is and don't look at me.
Speaker 5: Exactly and like no offense, but like how many people,
Speaker 5: I mean a lot of people know about the Gecko?
Speaker 5: So like, come on, no.
Speaker 1: No, no, no offense taken. I am. I am exactly
Speaker 1: as famous as I ever desire to be.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're a favoite of my world.
Speaker 1: Man, Well that's nice. Is has he done anything to
Speaker 1: piss you off in the last five months? Or are you
Speaker 1: guys good?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 5: He's literally perfect.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 5: I could not.
Speaker 1: Wow. I'm so I'm so happy about it because if
Speaker 1: it because if it'd be one thing, if like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, you were like I met my boyfriend at
Speaker 1: your show, but he's actually a total piece of ship,
Speaker 1: and so I'm mad at you.
Speaker 5: No, literally the best man I've ever met.
Speaker 1: Literally, that's so wonderful. I love that. That's awesome, that's
Speaker 1: so great. Wow. Wow, Well were you at the early
Speaker 1: show or the late show? Oh yeah, you were both.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you were at both the late that's the
Speaker 1: this is I get. I'm alienating people who weren't there,
Speaker 1: which is several thousands of people who listening to this.
Speaker 1: But that late show, that was the drunkest group of
Speaker 1: people I think I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 5: Oh that show was fun. But I really do think
Speaker 5: that the first show was better.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, they were, you know, they were fun. They
Speaker 1: were fun. Well, no, no, no, I thought they were
Speaker 1: both fun. I I always that the Atlanta is a
Speaker 1: great city. I always I loved all the shows I've
Speaker 1: done there, both in twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four,
Speaker 1: and who knows, maybe twenty twenty six, I'll get back
Speaker 1: on the road.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm hoping you come to jacks Man Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think I'm gonna do that.
Speaker 5: Oh that's hurtful.
Speaker 1: It is hurtful, But would would Can I ask you
Speaker 1: a real question?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 1: What's more hurtful to you? Me telling you honestly that
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna come to Jacksonville, Florida or me or
Speaker 1: me going like oh yeah, maybe you know what, Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe I'll come to Jacksonville, Florida knowing full well that
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna go.
Speaker 5: Both are equally as hurtful. I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I guess I guess we live in a
Speaker 1: world where being slightly hurtful to you as an unfortunate
Speaker 1: inevitability that we both must go on a journey through.
Speaker 5: Fair enough, But hey, Jacksonville is pretty cool. I'm just saying, well, uh,
Speaker 5: what's your name again?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry? I know I've asked you probably ten times.
Speaker 5: It's cool.
Speaker 2: I know it's Lula, Lula.
Speaker 1: How could I forget that name? Is a good name?
Speaker 1: Is your boy? Yeah? Is? Is?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 5: No, I just want to thank you for assisting and
Speaker 5: meeting the person that I love so much.
Speaker 1: Thanks so thank you, thank you for calling me and
Speaker 1: telling me this. This is uh. I'm very I'm very
Speaker 1: happy that I could have a positive influence of some
Speaker 1: kind in this way. This is this is good. I'm
Speaker 1: taking this to the bank. I'm gonna feel I'm gonna
Speaker 1: try to feel good about this throughout the day. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna try. I honestly, I'm gonna use this as an
Speaker 1: excuse to commit a crime of some kind today. I
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna steal. Maybe I'll steal something from a
Speaker 1: convenience store or a jaywalk or something like that. I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna think of something you like, some diamonds or
Speaker 5: something like that.
Speaker 1: Dies too. I that's that's that's you're Yeah. Maybe i'll
Speaker 1: how happy are you exactly? Because that's gonna determine how
Speaker 1: sadistic whatever crime I commit will be?
Speaker 5: Okay, well, you'll be good. Thank you so much for
Speaker 5: taking my call.
Speaker 2: This was so great.
Speaker 5: I can't wait to O'Connor.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Lula. I have a good night you too.
Speaker 2: Bye bye bye.
Speaker 1: That's fun. That's fun. That's good. I like that all right?
Speaker 1: Uh see that you know what I really I love
Speaker 1: my like my real like passion. The thing I just
Speaker 1: really fucking love is I love, Uh like create, whether
Speaker 1: it's like my tours or through like whatever the fuck.
Speaker 1: I love like creating. Gathering folks together in physical proximity.
Speaker 1: It's fun. It's cool. I like this makes me happy
Speaker 1: that these two people met because of because of this thing.
Speaker 1: So this is cool. I want to do more stuff
Speaker 1: where people meet in person. Uh, it's cool, it's exciting.
Speaker 1: I don't have anything else. I don't have I don't
Speaker 1: have anything else to say, or maybe I do. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm on a lot of coffee. Let's keep
Speaker 1: it rolling. Let's keep it rolling. Hello, hey Lyle, Yeah, Hi,
Speaker 1: what's your name?
Speaker 4: Hey, my name's Alice.
Speaker 1: How are you doing, Alice? Alice? What's up, Alice? How
Speaker 1: am I doing? I'm doing pretty good? Actually? Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm doing pretty good. Actually, I'm enjoying life. I am.
Speaker 1: I am in Tokyo right now, hanging out. Uh. I'm
Speaker 1: in a room, I'm not wearing a shirt, and uh
Speaker 1: I have to pee, but not enough that I'm willing
Speaker 1: to interrupt this conversation. That's how I'm doing in this
Speaker 1: very moment. How are you doing well.
Speaker 4: I'm doing great. I so weird. I knew today was
Speaker 4: my day.
Speaker 1: You knew today was your day?
Speaker 4: I knew, yeah, you know, I haven't. I wasn't talking
Speaker 4: to my little brother for a while because he's like, uh,
Speaker 4: you know, he's in foster care. Things are a little
Speaker 4: weird for him. And he called me today. But then
Speaker 4: I saw you WeLive and I'm like, hey man, I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: I think today's day.
Speaker 2: I gotta go.
Speaker 1: He's like, alrighty, I uh you. I'm trying to understand.
Speaker 1: He you your brother's in foster care. Yeah, how old
Speaker 1: is he?
Speaker 4: He's sixteen?
Speaker 1: And he and he was calling you on the phone
Speaker 1: to talk to you about something, and you were like, sorry,
Speaker 1: I can't talk right now. I got to call the
Speaker 1: therapy gecko.
Speaker 4: Well yeah, we were already talking for like three hours,
Speaker 4: and you know sometime we're just like sitting there listening
Speaker 4: to music or whatever.
Speaker 2: So it's all cool, all.
Speaker 1: Right, all right, all right, Well then we'll then screw him.
Speaker 1: What's up? What's up? How you doing?
Speaker 2: I'm doing okay.
Speaker 4: You know, I was doing pretty rough like last week
Speaker 4: or so, but I dropped a couple of courses because
Speaker 4: I'm in college and they gave me like eight classes
Speaker 4: this semester, so I just dropped a couple decided I'm
Speaker 4: going to take it a little bit like longer than
Speaker 4: normal because I was like on a fast track, which
Speaker 4: was just stupid. And I'm feeling a lot better now.
Speaker 4: And yeah, things are looking up.
Speaker 1: Good, very good. It's good when things look up. You know,
Speaker 1: what are you studying?
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, it's a Bachelor of Health Information Sciences,
Speaker 4: but it's basically digital health. They're changing the name to that,
Speaker 4: so when I graduate, that's it's going to be on
Speaker 4: the diploma.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you said digital health.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like like computer science but for healthcare.
Speaker 1: Yoh, so you're going to be like doing fucking surgery
Speaker 1: on zoom.
Speaker 2: No, oh my god.
Speaker 4: No, I'm going to be like like making sure the
Speaker 4: people that do surgery all the information from that surgery
Speaker 4: is taken care of properly.
Speaker 1: So like so like when Sonic the Hedgehog is having
Speaker 1: chest pains, you're going to go into the computer and
Speaker 1: save him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, basically we're gonna look at like we can do programming,
Speaker 4: so we could look up find Sonic the Hedgehog, select
Speaker 4: Sonic's heart talent beats per minute.
Speaker 1: Yo, because I don't know why he runs so fast
Speaker 1: in it, but it might have something to it might
Speaker 1: lead to a heart complications. All right, I'm done with
Speaker 1: this joke.
Speaker 2: O love Sonic.
Speaker 3: You're good.
Speaker 1: You said you said today was your day. Well, so
Speaker 1: I guess I'll ask you this. And it's completely fine
Speaker 1: if not. Normally sometimes I say it's fine if not,
Speaker 1: and I don't mean it. But today, I mean it,
Speaker 1: was there anything in particular that you wanted to talk about? Uh?
Speaker 1: And again it's fine if not.
Speaker 4: Man, I just want to talk about life and like
Speaker 4: human connection, I.
Speaker 1: Guess human connection. What about human connection?
Speaker 4: Like it's kind of like the reason I called you
Speaker 4: and the reason and like I talked, listen to your
Speaker 4: podcast all the time. It's like so interesting the interactions
Speaker 4: that humans can have with each other. It's like just
Speaker 4: fascinating to me.
Speaker 1: It is it's a little upsetting to see I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's a little it's a little upsetting to see that. Like, uh,
Speaker 1: I guess a lot of people don't have that, and
Speaker 1: so they are like they just kind of like sit
Speaker 1: on the computer and like I don't know, I don't
Speaker 1: know get like like leap be argue with people in
Speaker 1: like Internet comments sections and stuff.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, sometimes I'm on Reddit arguing with people.
Speaker 4: But m hm, do be like that?
Speaker 1: What do you what do you argue with people about
Speaker 1: on Reddit?
Speaker 3: Oh? Fuck?
Speaker 4: Well, the last time it was about how bad a
Speaker 4: pizza was. I was posting a picture boat kiwis on
Speaker 4: a pizza.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's that's you know what that's that's relatively Uh
Speaker 1: what's the word. Uh, that's relatively malignant. Uh. When it
Speaker 1: comes to Internet arguments.
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm stupid.
Speaker 2: What do you mean?
Speaker 1: Sorry? Uh no, maybe I'm stupid, Like maybe that uh,
Speaker 1: relatively mild. I think when it comes to Internet arguments, malignant.
Speaker 1: I gotta stop using words that I don't know what
Speaker 1: the fuck they mean. I'm Google, hold on malignant malig
Speaker 1: like a malignant tumor, Like a tumor. That's not that bad.
Speaker 2: Hold on, you're is like cancerous?
Speaker 1: Oh wait, oh wait, oh malignant is bad. Okay, malignant
Speaker 1: is the opposite of what I thought. It meant, oh
Speaker 1: my whole but not yes, I meant benign. Holy ship,
Speaker 1: that's what that? Oh my god? Okay, No, no, you're
Speaker 1: you You are not stupid. I'm stupid, Belind. I meant
Speaker 1: but not malignants the opposites. Okay, I just this. I
Speaker 1: actually had a this happened to me. I'm twenty seven.
Speaker 1: My whole life, I always thought malignant meant not that bad. Okay,
Speaker 1: this happened to me one O the time. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna real quick, the word approximate. I was twenty four, No,
Speaker 1: I was twenty three. Maybe I was maybe like twenty
Speaker 1: three years old when I found out that I thought
Speaker 1: approximate meant like precise, Like when you said like approximately
Speaker 1: seven pm, I thought that met exactly seven pm. And
Speaker 1: then one day I realized. And then when one day
Speaker 1: I found out that approximate it means the opposite. So
Speaker 1: this is the second time that I have been using
Speaker 1: a word incorrectly for my entire life. And I'm glad.
Speaker 1: I okay, good, Okay, I'm glad that I had this conversation.
Speaker 1: This was extremely If this was all, If this entire
Speaker 1: conversation was just me finding out that malignant means bad,
Speaker 1: then there was really good productive conversation for at least me. Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, I would be like eternally grateful if I could
Speaker 4: have facilitated that for you or maybe even for anyone listening. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and just like a lasting impassion. That's human connection. Man,
Speaker 4: that's exactly what I wanted.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, okay, we connected a little bit just now
Speaker 1: in this moment. Then be with that.
Speaker 4: Wait, Lyle, Yeah, do you know my name? No? Oh,
Speaker 4: no worries, no worries. Well you know there was something
Speaker 4: this ice cream truck lady was talking to you about,
Speaker 4: like if you could look at a rock you could
Speaker 4: be happy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I remember, I was contructing. I love talking
Speaker 1: about Yeah, I remember, I remember her name. It was Angie. Sorry,
Speaker 1: that was I don't know why I said that. I
Speaker 1: think I only I think yeah that was you. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: if you could look at a rock and be happy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're good. You're chilling. I'm trying to. I'm debating whether
Speaker 1: or not I can do I've been recently debating whether
Speaker 1: I can do that, whether or not I can be
Speaker 1: happy with like a less than perfect life.
Speaker 2: No, do you.
Speaker 4: Collect rocks at all? That's what you should do?
Speaker 1: You think I should collect rocks?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I've been doing, like, you know, like
Speaker 4: geodes and like crystals and whatnot. Okay, this planet is
Speaker 4: fucking neat. Look what this planet did.
Speaker 2: You?
Speaker 1: But I okay for me, I don't have to collect
Speaker 1: I can just you don't need to collect them. I
Speaker 1: don't need to be in possession of it. I can
Speaker 1: just look at the rock and be like, this is
Speaker 1: a cool rock. I don't got to take it home
Speaker 1: with me.
Speaker 4: Okay, fine, Well we can all look look at rock
Speaker 4: and be happy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, own place. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you know you said the way
Speaker 1: you said today is your day? It made it it.
Speaker 1: I guess it indicated to me that you really wanted
Speaker 1: to have this conversation, which I'm honored by, and I
Speaker 1: just in this moment I want to check in with
Speaker 1: you and see if the results of this conversation matched
Speaker 1: your expectations in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, like like, I still can't even believe
Speaker 4: I'm talking to you right now.
Speaker 1: Okay, good, Okay, good. I was I was worried about that.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 4: I think you facilitate a lot of good in this world,
Speaker 4: and you put a lot of good vibes in there,
Speaker 4: and I've definitely received those vibes from you during this
Speaker 4: phone call, for sure.
Speaker 1: Okay, good, okay, good. I appreciate that. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to remember your name. Give me two
Speaker 1: seconds on only one. Oh, okay, Alice, there we go. Okay,
Speaker 1: you kind of gave that to me though, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: It's no, no, it's it's okay, it's okay. I would,
Speaker 1: I would. I was going to guess Erica.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm glad I gave it to you.
Speaker 1: Alice. Is there anything else you want to say to
Speaker 1: the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 4: Just appreciate the people around you. That's all I gotta say. Guys,
Speaker 4: have a good one and gex bluff, I think, Alice.
Speaker 1: I will uh, I will see you in uh. I'll
Speaker 1: see you in hell or heaven or wherever, or in
Speaker 1: the dirt or in or in Wonderland or in the dirt.
Speaker 1: But I'll be seeing you at some point.
Speaker 4: Come to Toronto. I'm going to your.
Speaker 1: Show, okay, cool? Yeah. Jacksonville, Florida, I don't know, but Toronto,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm there, beautiful.
Speaker 4: We'll see you then, all.
Speaker 1: Right, by Ellis. I don't have anything particularly against the
Speaker 1: actual city of Jacksonville, Florida. I've never been there. If
Speaker 1: you're from Jacksonville, Florida.
Speaker 4: I'm not.
Speaker 1: I've been. I we did Miami, Orlando, Tampa is just
Speaker 1: but Jacksonville. Other people in Jacksonville that would want to
Speaker 1: come to a thing. Also, Toronto is a better city,
Speaker 1: no offense to jackson I can't you know what, you
Speaker 1: know what. I'm sorry. I shouldn't have said that because
Speaker 1: I've never been to Jacksonville. I've only been to Toronto.
Speaker 1: Toronto's a great city, though I like it a lot. Uh,
Speaker 1: I'm sure Jacksonville is good too. You know what, I'm leaving.
Speaker 1: I can't cut this out. I'm leaving it in. I
Speaker 1: mean I can, but I don't want to because I'm
Speaker 1: not that worried about the about it. Yeah, you know what,
Speaker 1: maybe one day I'll go to Jacksonville, Florida to do.
Speaker 1: But I don't know what I would do there. I
Speaker 1: guess I guess the same I guess the same fucking
Speaker 1: thing I would do anywhere else I went in the world,
Speaker 1: which is walk around, saft things and eat. It's the
Speaker 1: only thing to ever do anywhere. All Right, podcast over.
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