1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: Today's episode contains mild spoilers for a variety of this 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: year's best stuff. Oh anyways, Jason gets up to own 3 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: and I'm Rosey. Night and welcome back to xt revision 4 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: of the podcast where we dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, 5 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: comics of pop culture. Conday over my our podcast. We'll 6 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: ring you three episodes a weekly. 7 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 2: News sometime in today's episode, twenty twenty five Favorites, it's 8 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 2: our award show. 9 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 3: We are going to be awarding our favorite books, TV, comics, games, 10 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,639 Speaker 3: and all our favorite things that stood out to us 11 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 3: this year. 12 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: And before we jump in, guys, it's me again, back 13 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: with the production note. For the holidays, we are sharing 14 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 2: some short stocking stuffer episodes with you that will help 15 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: you decide what beautiful books to buy for your friends, 16 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: what FI movies and TV to explore, and some little 17 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: festive treats along the way. 18 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 3: So keep out an ear for those throughout December. 19 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: Welcome to the twenty twenty five X ray Vision our 20 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: Favorite Stuff Awars. It's me, It's Rosy, just talking about 21 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: what our favorite stuff is. Yeah, let's start with the 22 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: year twenty twenty five in movies, it was a fantastic 23 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: WHI year in movies, some of the standouts. Let's just 24 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: mention some movies that we liked. Let's just and then 25 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: we'll talk about our favorite Superman, the long awaited Superman. 26 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: Wow, unbelievable, so fun, so fresh, so colorful, so joyous, 27 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: just ten out of ten, big fan. Great set off 28 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: to the DCU. What's going to happen next? We don't know, 29 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: but at least we have Superman and David corn Sweat. 30 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 3: What a blessing. 31 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: A wonderful year in horror, including weapons including bring Her Back, 32 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: including depending on how you classify this one in the 33 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: Moody the Monkey, including five nights at Freddy's two including 34 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: the final vout, many other final destination to the Long Walk, 35 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: well kind of time, Frankenstein, Frankenstein. Just an incredible season 36 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: for horror, and then just a lot of you know, gosh, 37 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: a lot of surprises, really, including I think probably the 38 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 1: biggest surprise, which is the box office breaking success of Sinners, 39 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: and more and more movies from tours being released on 40 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: streamers like Netflix. For instance, No Bombox Draight Kelly, which 41 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: is out right now. 42 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 3: Actually delightful movie. I would love to see it in 43 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 3: the cinema. You know what, it was. 44 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: Okay for me? Have you handed for me? But I 45 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: enjoyed it. 46 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I watched it last night. It 47 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: was Yes, I was in the glow of the Christmas 48 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 2: lights and it was a perfectly sacering kind of like 49 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 2: what it's like to be a star. 50 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 3: But I gotta say, would I have enjoyed it more? 51 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 3: Probably if I'd seen it in the Magic of the 52 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 3: Movie Theater. Yes, Netflix, I would have. But again, George Clooney, 53 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 3: Big Hitter, Noah Bound Back. 54 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: I mean also one of the biggest kind of stories 55 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 2: of this year, I would say, is and this will 56 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: come into play when we talk about one of our 57 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 2: favorite movies of the year. But like movies that performed 58 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 2: very well critically and failed at the box office, and 59 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 2: movies that performed. 60 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 3: Very badly critically that succeeded at the box office. 61 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 2: Obviously one of the biggest stories there being Paul Thomas 62 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 2: Anderson's One Battle after Another incredible office poison, box office poison, 63 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 2: unbelievable roll out. 64 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 3: If you lived in la you felt like it. 65 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: Was the first time that Star Wars and New Hope 66 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 2: had come out, and you were there and you were 67 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: thinking about you needed to get into that screening at 68 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: Man's Chinese Theater. 69 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 3: You needed to be in there, Bro. 70 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: That's how it felt to be trying to get into 71 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 2: a screening of one battle after another in VistaVision in 72 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: La You felt like it was the biggest movie in 73 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: the world. It was being carried by those incredible performances 74 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,119 Speaker 2: by Teona, by Regina, by Chase, and you know what, 75 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 2: Eventually it didn't necessarily make the money they expected. The 76 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 2: Dad audience did not come out, but we still got 77 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 2: an unbelievable, crazily beautiful looking. 78 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: Movie, and by all accounts, in its early days, that 79 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: is the film that appears to be running away with awards. 80 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 3: Absolutely no question, at. 81 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: Least the narrative awards ry point in the season. Okay, Rosie, 82 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: your best movie of the year. 83 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: I think that for me it has to go. I 84 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 2: know that this conversation has changed. It has been a 85 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 2: crazy year. It's felt like it's gone on forever. So 86 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 2: it might be a shock that this movie even came 87 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,679 Speaker 2: out this year, But I still stand by that the best, 88 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: most important, coolest movie of the year was Sinners. That's 89 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 2: an unbelievable movie. I'm still standing by Sinners. That is 90 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: my Rosy Cool Stuff Awards. Stuff I liked extro Vision Award. 91 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 2: I'm giving it to Sinner's Best Movie of the Year, Jason, 92 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:09,799 Speaker 2: watch yours. 93 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: My favorite movie of the year is One Battle. Another 94 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: is you know, very close up there. All apologies to 95 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: Chloe Joe and Hamnet, which I have not seen yet. 96 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: I was gonna say I'm eager to see. 97 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 2: Let us give a disclaimer here, some of the best 98 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: of the Year lists are. 99 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 3: Gonna include movies that. 100 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 2: Because of the festival roll out this year, many critics 101 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 2: I've seen that we have not seen. Me and Jason 102 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 2: have not seen Hamnet, but we will have Joelle coming 103 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 2: on to talk about Hamnet. We have not seen Marty Supreme, 104 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: which many people are saying is one of. 105 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 3: The best films of the year. Cannot wait. 106 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 2: Also, just need to shout out my boy little Timmy 107 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 2: Tim taking an a twenty four ping Pong movie to 108 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 2: cc XP and acting like he was Tom Hardy promoting Venom. 109 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 3: I love it. 110 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 2: We need to see more of it. But they're going 111 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 2: to be some of those movies that we haven't seen. 112 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 3: New Valve the New like movie about the making. 113 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 2: Of Breathless by clay and stuff like that we haven't seen, 114 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 2: but these are the ones we have seen. Jason tell 115 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 2: us why one bottle after another edged over the top 116 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 2: for you this year? 117 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: Just the It was a cathartic film that, especially in 118 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: the times in which we lived, these fallen, rotten, toxic 119 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: and utterly devoid of ethics type situation that we are 120 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: currently living in, one battle after another, felt like a 121 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: wonderful fantasy to live in for two hours and fifteen minutes. 122 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: What a wonderful escapism that hits a person like me 123 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: right in the fields. And a movie experience from Paul 124 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: Thomas Sanderson that I haven't quite had before. You know, 125 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: it's not he hasn't really made a popcorn. I guess 126 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: you'd have to go back to Boogie Nights. He's a 127 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: really made even that movie before and even then, and 128 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: I just I enjoyed it like I would have enjoyed 129 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: an action movie. 130 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was exactly. It did feel like when you 131 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 3: were in that cinema. 132 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 2: That crazy car chase scene, like you felt like you 133 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: were watching an eighties kind of schwartz the Enegger esque 134 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 2: romp through these gorgeous cinematic landscapes. 135 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 3: But there was this hope and this fury and this anger. 136 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 2: And as someone who has been living in the South Bay, 137 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 2: who's living in an area where you know isis stayed 138 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 2: on the Terminal Island right now, we had like seventeen 139 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: kidnappings yesterday. 140 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 3: I you know, it's it's constant. 141 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 2: There was something very visceral and different about seeing a 142 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: movie that actually dealt with what was going on right now, 143 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,119 Speaker 2: even though you know, the moments we saw them break 144 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: into the border patrol places and stuff was so earlier. 145 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 3: It felt very visceral. 146 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 2: You know, the Benicio del Toro character, the sense character, 147 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: the way he was helping people. And there's been so 148 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: many great critiques and call outs and thought pieces. You 149 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 2: can read all about them. But I did think it 150 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: was a movie that blew me away. But Sinners takes 151 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 2: it for me. Jason, what is your most underrated. 152 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 3: Underseen movie that you wish more people had seen this year? Wow? 153 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, underrated underseen movie? 154 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 2: I will start because you did mention it. You mentioned 155 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: it momentarily with Bring Her Back. I think Bring Her 156 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: Back to Me is If Sinners hadn't come out, I 157 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 2: would have been going all over the place talking about 158 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 2: bring Her Back best picture. I mean, I still have 159 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 2: been shouting it out. We had a great chat with 160 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 2: the directors. 161 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 3: You can watch it on our YouTube channel. I love 162 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 3: the Philipo brothers. 163 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: I think Talk to Us great, Talk to Me is 164 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 2: a great movie, But Bring Her Back is a treatise 165 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 2: o bleak. 166 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 3: Existential horror on trauma. 167 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 2: When I watched it for the first time, I felt 168 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: like I was watching something like Your God is a 169 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: Dog Tooth, like a movie that haunts you for so 170 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 2: much longer than you watch it. And also as someone 171 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 2: who you know, didn't have the best adults in my 172 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 2: life as a kid. It sparked off this thought process 173 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 2: for me about this year's movies, about how these movies 174 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 2: are about horror that happens to children and the lack 175 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 2: of agency you have as a kid. And I think 176 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 2: that ended up being a through line for weapons and 177 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 2: loads of other stuff that I loved, I. 178 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 3: Mean, even stranger things. 179 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 2: Me and Carmen were texting about how so much of 180 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,239 Speaker 2: it has those similar themes and there's something very interesting 181 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: right now about children in horror and what we have 182 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 2: fears of for children. 183 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,359 Speaker 3: But yeah, if you can deal. 184 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 2: With a sad horror movie, and you love to feel 185 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 2: like depressed and you want to go to Amac's bleak 186 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: week Watch Bring Her Back. I truly think Sally Hawkins 187 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: should have got an oscar for this performance. 188 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. The young actors are unbelievable. Go watch it. 189 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 3: Jason Wat's Yours. 190 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Steven Soderberg, the prolific Steven Soderberg's 191 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: Black Bag, which is a delightful little indie spy thriller 192 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 1: that turns into like one of the ultimate wife guy movies, 193 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: like of Recent Memory, Incredible. It's a fantastic wife guy 194 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: movie and just a delightful little puzzle box of a 195 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: thriller that happens like in meetings, it happens on the phone, 196 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: it happens over movies, and I don't want to You 197 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 1: probably haven't seen it because I think it's a very 198 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: It's the box office box office forty three million on 199 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: a budget of fifty to sixty, so nobody saw this movie. 200 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: But it's just. 201 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 3: Too thriller kind of vibe. 202 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: It's like, I mean, a lot of the film is 203 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 1: like can can this long married couple rediscover like the verve, 204 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: like find each other hot? Really really fun movie, Black 205 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: Bag You Kill It's where is it streaming on Netflix 206 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: right now? 207 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 3: Or it's streaming right now? 208 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: Okay, find it on Amazon Prime streaming service. 209 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 2: Alight makes me happy because, as a Boo mentioned in 210 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 2: the comments as we were recording this, rage Joan Page 211 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: one of our recurring conversation topics, he's getting some. 212 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 3: Walk in that gig. And guess what, guys, He's coming 213 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 3: back to Netflix for an erotic thriller. He's returning to 214 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:29,479 Speaker 3: the homeland. 215 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: Here's a fun story about Reggie Junt Page. My wife 216 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: and I were had forgotten his name and we were taught. 217 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, look, there he is on the 218 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: he was doing ads for I think BMW maybe, and 219 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: I was like, there he is. Fuck what's his name? 220 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: You know? Like, and he's on he was supposed to 221 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: be bond and like. And we were trying to figure 222 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: out his name and I was like, oh, I think 223 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: I have it. And then I was like, and this 224 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: is the name that got us there, I said, I 225 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: feel like it's something like Jamaica Paul Incredible, incredible. 226 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 2: Just like happens. 227 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: And so that is the name that got us to 228 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: incredib J Jhon Page. 229 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 3: Classic, and he's gonna be back. 230 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: Guys, He's going to be back, the handsome almost bond 231 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: ray j John Page. Let's take a quick break and 232 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: we'll be back with more best of five. And we're right, 233 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: let's go to books. 234 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 2: Ooh, I love to talk to you about books. 235 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: I'd love to talk to you about books, Rosie. What 236 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: are some of your favorite books of twenty twenty five 237 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: or that you read in twenty twenty five? Before you 238 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: get to your top pick, my favorite book did not 239 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: come out in twenty twenty five. 240 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's really normal, right, Like, Okay, So 241 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 3: I have read some incredible books this year. 242 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,719 Speaker 2: I was blessed to get send an early copy of 243 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 2: this really incredible book called a Eternal Ruin that is 244 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 2: a sequel by an author called Tai Jess Germu. It's 245 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: like a crazy supernatural fantasy just like totally immersed me. 246 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: I've been reading a lot of a lot of fantasy 247 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: and a lot of horror tinged fantasy. This year's definitely 248 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 2: been rare for me because I am usually not a 249 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 2: literary fiction guy. I'm definitely more of a mainstream or 250 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 2: ya or romanticy or even just nonfiction. 251 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 3: But there were two books that. 252 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 2: Definitely fit into that this category this year post This 253 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 2: incredible book I read at the beginning of this year 254 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 2: that really did change my perspective on books, and it's 255 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 2: probably my biggest pick, so I won't mention it, but 256 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 2: it was a Japanese translated book that got me into 257 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 2: more like female literary fiction in the horror space. So 258 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 2: two of my faves that I read this year was 259 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: Blood on Her Tongue by Johanna van Vien. 260 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 3: It's basically about two twin sisters. 261 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 2: One of them gets married off to like a sexy, 262 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: hunky lord of the manner, very very gothic romance, and 263 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 2: they find a bog woman all the woud yeah, and 264 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 2: she becomes obsessed with the bog woman and the bog 265 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 2: woman's history, and it's this incredible, gross textured, fantastic gory 266 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 2: horror that's about love and about sisterhood and it's very 267 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 2: gothic and very fantastic. What was one of your favorit 268 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 2: reads this year? 269 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I read a lot of stuff that I 270 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: didn't like this year fiction wise, but I read a 271 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: lot of nonfiction that I really enjoyed. Let's see, what 272 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: did I read that I liked. I read a old 273 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: book that is a New York Review of Books re 274 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: release called The Gallery by John horn Burns. It is 275 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: a a story about a gay soldier in World War 276 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: Two and the kind of the aftermath of World War 277 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: Two came out. When did this come out? Hold on, 278 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: let's say it came out in the forties. Here nineteen 279 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: set in nineteen forty four, and it's it's shocking, and 280 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: it's in the fact that it came out in the forties. 281 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: It's a really really like gripping emotional read just about 282 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: that really takes you to a place in time. It's 283 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: not just like the chaos of and rebuilding in post 284 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: World War two in Italy, but the kind of like 285 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: the way that this gay soldier has to find these 286 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: fleeting moments to have connections with other people that then 287 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: are just over and done and you have to because 288 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: this is like something that is a risk to his 289 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:03,479 Speaker 1: life and to these others. Incredible book. And then nonfiction, 290 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I've read so much stuff that is like, 291 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: what are you doing? I read this book called Tallyrand, 292 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: which is a biography by the British writer Duff Cooper. 293 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: Came out in your early twentieth century. That's about this 294 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: Marshall Tallyrand, who was a French politician for like the 295 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: end of the French monarchy, the French Revolutionary government, Napoleon, 296 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: and then the reinstitution of the French monarchy. Oh my gosh, 297 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: every one of those regimes like hated him, distrusted him 298 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: and didn't like him and thought about exiling him or 299 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: like putting him to death. But then they go a 300 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: little bit down the road and be like, fuck, he 301 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: is really good at his job. 302 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 3: We got him, and. 303 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's kind of a it is still just 304 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: like a fascinating by our. And then I would say, 305 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: if you want to be depressed, the Fort Bragg Cartel 306 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: as a non fiction book about a about a drug 307 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: ring run out of Fort Bragg, not incredible during the 308 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: Global war or terror. But finally, the book that I 309 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: enjoyed the most as a fiction book, and again I 310 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: dislike a lot of books sadly that I read this 311 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: year would be Sa Crosby's Blacktop Wasteman. Sa Crosby a 312 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: crime writer whose stuff is just like bloody and brutal 313 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: and like really wonderful, like modern noirs. I had not 314 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: read a ton of his stuff before, but Blacktop Wasteland 315 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: is one that just really hit it for me. And 316 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: the opening like ten pages like description of the setting 317 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: is fucking great. It's okay, I've really enjoyed it. 318 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 2: If you're pitching it, what's it like? The central log 319 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 2: line of the story. 320 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: A struggling mechanic gets caught up in a interstate crime 321 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: ring and has to get his kind of shoot his 322 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: way out of it while also working through issues surrounding 323 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: his his feelings towards his father, who is a longtime criminal, 324 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: and feelings that he has of responsibility to his own 325 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: family as a person dabbling in crime. 326 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that. 327 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 2: My final two are definitely still in this kind of 328 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 2: like genre is space. I read this another incredible twenty 329 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 2: twenty five book called The Midnight Shift by Chunson Ran, 330 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 2: which is an adaptation of a really really I mean 331 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 2: a translation of a really popular Korean novel and it's 332 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 2: like a queer treatise on loan, and it's about a 333 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 2: nurse who or a woman who notices that there has 334 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 2: been this spate. 335 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 3: Of suicides at all people's. 336 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 2: Home and comes to find out that maybe it's a 337 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 2: vampire but it's really about modern loneliness and relationships and 338 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 2: being queer. 339 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 3: It's so good. 340 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 2: But my favorite book of the year, which I'm in 341 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 2: a copy from you, Jason, did not technically come out 342 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five, but I've read it this year 343 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 2: and it changed my life. I've sent it to so 344 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 2: many people, I've bought it for so many women. It 345 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 2: is the incredible novel. It's already won every award, so 346 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 2: you know. 347 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 3: It's gotten its due. 348 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 2: And it is an incredible novel that originally was published 349 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen but got an English translation last year 350 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 2: called Butter by Asoko Yazooki, and it's about a woman 351 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 2: who is a journalist who connects with a female serial 352 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 2: killer through jail penman letters and begins this journey of 353 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 2: understanding fatness and woman who and food and misogyny in Japan. 354 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 2: But it's incredible because every single woman I have given 355 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 2: it to, whether American, whether English, whether any race, any gender, Honestly. 356 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 3: Anyone I've given it to immediately. 357 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 2: Within ten pages text me and goes, oh my god, 358 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 2: there's like no universal experience in the single like unique 359 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 2: experience in the world, like even this incredibly specific book 360 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 2: about a woman in her thirties in Japan who probably 361 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 2: I think she weighs like one hundred. 362 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 3: And four pounds. 363 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 2: They talk about her weight a lot in the book, 364 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 2: so she's incredibly slim by you know, Western standards. And 365 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 2: yet every single woman who reads this book, which by 366 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 2: the way, was recommended to me by by mother. That 367 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 2: is how it like intergenerationally fantastic this book is. It's 368 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 2: a mixture of true crime, it's womanhood, it's fatness, it's murder. 369 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 2: It will also introduce you to some of the best, 370 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 2: most simple and nourishing Japanese dishes. Me and my mother 371 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 2: in law, me and my besties, We've been texted each 372 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 2: other eating the books, the stuff from the book like. 373 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 2: It is truly a fantastic book, and I love that 374 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 2: we widened the scope because I cannot recommend it enough. 375 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 2: It's it's just so engaging and kind of depressing, but 376 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 2: in a good way. 377 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: Up next, video games, Oh, interesting videos. I've had a 378 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: few that have managed to grab me. 379 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 3: Rosie. 380 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: What are your some of your best games of the year. 381 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 3: Again, I want to give a shower out. 382 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 2: I want to give a shout out first to Dispatch, 383 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 2: which I've only played a little bit of so I 384 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 2: did not think it was fair to put it in here. 385 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 2: But it is a sexy superhero episodic slice of life 386 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 2: action game. It's so much fun. That animation is beautiful. 387 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 2: I was my friend Kai is super into it. She 388 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 2: was playing it last night and I was like, Oh, 389 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 2: it's almost gonna make it. 390 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 3: But I haven't played it enough. It's eight episodes. 391 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 2: I've only played through like one, but I want to 392 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 2: give it a shower because I think it's going to come 393 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 2: up as one of the best games of the year. 394 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 2: It's so much fun, my favorite games of the year. 395 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 2: I'm starting off with one of the biggest releases. It 396 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 2: was on this which to when I got my switch 397 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 2: to which I have loved Mariocart World. 398 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 3: I think it deserves to be up there. We've had 399 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 3: so much. 400 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 2: Fun playing it with our friends online, playing it with 401 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 2: kids who come over, playing it with folks who want 402 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 2: to try out the open world aspects, which I think 403 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 2: we're a little bit overplayed. But generally the new tracks 404 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 2: are fun. I love Mario Kart, I love all the 405 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 2: new characters. It's really fun, and it's just been probably 406 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 2: the game I spent the most time playing. 407 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 3: My other. 408 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 2: Episode would also be My other suggestion would also be 409 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 2: this is really controversial, but I'm gonna have it because 410 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 2: I like to have a hot take. 411 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 3: Is it a best game of the year? 412 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: No? 413 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 3: Is it one of my favorite games of the year. Yes, 414 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 3: Tales of the Shire very hated at release. 415 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 2: By kind of big Triple A game review sites, but 416 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 2: then the cozy game community kind of found it and said, hey, 417 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,479 Speaker 2: we're used to playing yankee games. It's essentially a yanky 418 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 2: version of the cooking mechanisms from Zelda. You put on 419 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 2: two communicate with people and make friends with people. You 420 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 2: put on feasts. There is no money aspect. That is 421 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 2: not capitalistic. It's all about just hanging around and hanging 422 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 2: out with your friends and doing up your little shia. 423 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 2: Very cozy for me, very controversial. The less controversial takes. 424 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 2: We did have an incredible Game Awards episode where Aaron 425 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 2: and a Boo talk a little bit more about Dispatch. 426 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 2: But that's my controversial take. Jason, tell me your two 427 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 2: runners up and then. 428 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 3: We'll do the best ofs. 429 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: My two runners up are Battlefield six, which I listened. 430 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: Sometimes I just want to shoot people and Battlefield six 431 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: understundable for me on a large scale, Ghosts of Yota, 432 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: which unbelievable, a wonderful follow up to the to the 433 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: first game in the franchise, Ghosts of Tsushima. It's just 434 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,959 Speaker 1: everything you want from a ghost game and more. But 435 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: my best game of the year, My favorite game of 436 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: the year has to be ARC Readers Crazy extraction third 437 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 1: person shooter. What is an extraction shooter, you ask. It's 438 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: a game in which you have to you enter a 439 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 1: map where there are other players, but also computer controlled 440 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: players who you're competing against in order to accomplish some 441 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: mission and then get to an extraction point and try 442 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 1: to leave without getting killed. And you're trying to get 443 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: all your stuff that you gathered during your playthrough round 444 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: and manage to get out. And it is arc Creaders 445 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: is wonderfully tense. It's I just creep around gathering stuff, 446 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: stealth not to shoot people, trying not to be heard 447 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: by people, trying to never let people know that I'm around, 448 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: and only shoot if I have to, and it is 449 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,360 Speaker 1: just an incredibly tense, fun experience. 450 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 2: I love that this made your favor games of the 451 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 2: year because you were on deadline. 452 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 3: Until recently, so you are not going to play this. 453 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 3: Jason was in the discord right now. Yeah, I like 454 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 3: playing it. 455 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 2: But but it was that good that it won you Okay, Mine, 456 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 2: I've been thinking a lot about people have been having 457 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 2: lots of good conversations online about the difference between like, 458 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 2: you know, art and content and what do you take 459 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 2: in and what makes you happy and blah blah blah, 460 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 2: and when it comes to the game, that has just 461 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 2: made me happiest that every time I play it. 462 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 3: Feels like a release. 463 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 2: Feels like I'm taking in some beautiful art somebody made. 464 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 3: Is Tiny Bookshop. I've talked about it before. 465 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: I cannot suggest it enough if you have a Switch 466 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 2: one or a switch to the best thing. I think 467 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 2: the reason it has so much life to it is 468 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 2: that it is constantly updated or has a massive, massive 469 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 2: quantity of real books. 470 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 3: So when you are even though the game is relatively. 471 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 2: Small choice based, you just put your books out, people 472 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 2: come and buy them. You go through the day, and 473 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 2: you can advise them, and it's essentially a point and 474 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 2: click game because of the fact that you'll be recommending 475 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 2: people books and you'll have books on your shelf and 476 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 2: they'll want come in and say, oh, I really need 477 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 2: like a ya for a kid who has never really 478 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 2: read before. And then you can look on your shelf 479 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 2: and you can have Clive Barker's The Thief of Nowhere, 480 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 2: and you can have Ursula Legwynn, and you can have 481 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 2: you know, Christopher Crestamanci, Like, it's really incredible to have 482 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 2: the real books. And I think that's what kept pulling 483 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 2: me back because every time there was a book I loved, 484 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 2: or a nonfiction book or a comic book I never 485 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 2: thought I would have seen in a video game, I 486 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 2: take a picture of it and I'm like, this is 487 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 2: so cute. 488 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 3: So it has very affordable. 489 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 2: Incredibly beautiful, great music, and just generally a really lovely experience. 490 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 3: So I can't recommend it enough. That's my favorite game 491 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 3: of the year. 492 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: Up next, comics, Rosie, your favorite comic of the year. Who. 493 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm going to shout out we are either 494 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 2: will if they haven't been released yet, they will be released. 495 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 2: But I've done two really great short interviews with two 496 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 2: incredible comic book creators whose comics. 497 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 3: Are on my best off list. That is why they 498 00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 3: are on the podcast. 499 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 2: Leelan Canon unbelievable, chonky graphic novel. Perfect thing that you 500 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 2: can give to someone who loves a voracious visceral read. 501 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 2: It's about the titular canon, a chef in a restaurant 502 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 2: and when we meet her, she smashed up the whole restaurant, 503 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 2: and then the book kind of tells us how she 504 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 2: got there. Very real and relatable to anyone who's kind 505 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 2: of dealt with family issues, who's dealt with working in 506 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: a restaurant, who's dealt with working in retail. 507 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 3: So good Lie's art is amazing. 508 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 2: Great interview too, Nathan Gelgood incredible comic, real politic. 509 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 3: It's funny. 510 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 2: If you like me and Jason, you will probably like 511 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 2: the comic. It's lots of jokes about the realities of 512 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 2: leftift infighting and movie loving, but it's all set in 513 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 2: a movie theater. It's very silly. It's a talking animal comic. 514 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 2: I love it, but probably my favorite comic of the year. Jason, 515 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 2: you're gonna cover one of my runners up that was 516 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 2: up there for my top so I'm gonna let you 517 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 2: have that one. 518 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,239 Speaker 3: But I'm gonna shout out Stephanie Williams. We love her. 519 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 2: She's got an incredible comic right now with an incredible 520 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 2: artist called Leticia. It's called Roots of Magic. It's a 521 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 2: cosmic horror comic based on the real life of Madam C. J. Walker, 522 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 2: and it's about black haircare magic. All kinds of incredible 523 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 2: real practitioners taking inspiration from it. Looks gorgeous. It's part 524 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 2: of Ignition Press's first creator owned rollout. Just really the 525 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 2: kind of cool shit an independent creative creator and. 526 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 3: Publishers should be doing. I love it. 527 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 2: I love Steph, so I want to give her that 528 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 2: shout out to Jason. 529 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 3: Let's talk about what was arguably the biggest release of 530 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 3: the year. 531 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: I mean, this was the biggest release by far of 532 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: the year. It's on the New York Times bestseller list. 533 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: In his Absolute Batman, I'm reading it in the trade 534 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: paperback for issues one through six. Came out over the summer, 535 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: so I picked it up. Unbelievable and it's fantastic, wonderful 536 00:28:55,680 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: retelling of the Batman's story as a younger like twenty 537 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: four year old blue collar batman who is doing his 538 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: batmanning at night. Written by Scott Snyder with art by 539 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: Nick Dragota, and one of the best. It's different folks, 540 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: one of the best to ever do it. Yeah, and 541 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: it's just absolutely brutal and fantastic. 542 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 2: If you guys have not checked out the Absolute relaunch 543 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 2: from DC Comics, it is essentially it was thought that 544 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 2: it would be their take on the Ultimate Universe from Marvel, 545 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 2: which was kind of gritty and grounded, but instead they 546 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 2: went the other direction. And what they did was they 547 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 2: created a world that was essentially centered around the hopelessness 548 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 2: and despair of Dark Side instead of the hope of Superman, 549 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 2: which is your DC Prime universe. 550 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 3: So this universe everything's terrible, the tragedy is more tragics. 551 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 2: Even Batman is broke, Superman's raised and in tragedy does 552 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 2: never gets the loving care that he gets ripped away 553 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 2: from them. 554 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 3: Wonder Woman is raised in hell. 555 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 2: These are really big blockbuster ideas, and guess what they hit. 556 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 2: These comics sold hundreds of thousands of copies, and we're 557 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 2: so popular that Marvel recently ended their Ultimate Universe and 558 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 2: it has been rumored will be relaunching. And I love that. 559 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 2: I love Absolute Batman. It's one of the coolest redesigns 560 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 2: we've ever seen. Great pic Jason and definitely like the 561 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 2: comic book story of the year, like this was the 562 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 2: success story. Next year we're getting Absolute Catwoman, Absolute Green Lantern, 563 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 2: my dream. I'm trying to bring that absolute swamp thing. Guys, 564 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 2: you know I got it, Wink wink, trying to bring 565 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 2: that to the DC universe. But yeah, that great pic, Jason. 566 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 2: I mean, what a year for comics. It's been crazy. 567 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break and we'll be back with 568 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: our best shows TV shows, TV shows, Heard of It 569 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: TV and we're back. Okay. X Ray Vision Awards Television 570 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, your television nominees, and then your best 571 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: Television Show of the Year. 572 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm nominees. I'm going to start with The 573 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 3: Share Company. I love this show. It's so good. 574 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 2: If it wasn't for a certain show that came out 575 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 2: very early this year, I probably would have put it 576 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 2: as my top show because for me, it was just 577 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 2: so out there, so funny, never missed. I loved Tim 578 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,479 Speaker 2: Robinson's weird ass behavior. He's so funny. Another one up 579 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 2: there for me, which in a different year again, Cheer 580 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 2: Company would have been number one. In a different year 581 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 2: with less good TV, this could have also been my 582 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 2: number one the Studio. I love that show. 583 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 3: It's so funny. 584 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 2: It feels so perfectly written for people like us who 585 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 2: live in LA who deal with press junkets, who know 586 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 2: that every time you go to a movie premiere it 587 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 2: seems like the coolest thing in the world, but it's 588 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 2: actually like a slog for everyone working it Like, the 589 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 2: show just hit on so many levels for me, aside 590 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 2: from the incredible cameos, I love the studio. That's definitely 591 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 2: up a few. I want to throw in a couple 592 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 2: of underrated ones. I feel the summer Hikaru Died one 593 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 2: of the best anime of the season. You're gonna be 594 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 2: seeing it as one of the best anime coming up. 595 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 2: People are gonna be talking about it. It's one of 596 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 2: those shows best to go in knowing as little as possible, 597 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 2: go in expecting a sweet anime, come out just totally traumatized, 598 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 2: which is how the best anime often goes. 599 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:25,959 Speaker 3: Also totally action packed. 600 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 2: And my other one, which you can watch on Netflix, 601 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 2: and I do think is part of a bigger story 602 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 2: this year around the notion of how a lot of 603 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 2: American TV, broadcast networks and streamers have started to look 604 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 2: towards Canada. So when the CW was taken over by 605 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 2: Next Star, they decided to just look to Canada to 606 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 2: get all their programming. Recently, HBO Max has had a 607 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 2: smash hit going absolutely viral, which I know a lot 608 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 2: of people are talking about Heated Rivalry, which is a 609 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 2: gay hockey drama which came from the youth TV channel 610 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 2: Crave in Canada but has taken away very sexy. 611 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 3: Hockey drama that's taken the globe by storm. 612 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 2: And for me, one of the shows that I think 613 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 2: was a big hit out of that acquisition acquisition space 614 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 2: is Netflix took on the incredible. 615 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 3: Show North of North, which is this. 616 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:28,719 Speaker 2: Really funny sitcom, warm Arctic indigenous comedy premiere on CBC 617 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 2: in Canada. 618 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 3: It stars Anna Lambey who stars as. 619 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 2: Like a young INUK woman who is basically just like 620 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 2: going through a lot of life changes and it's super funny, 621 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 2: it's super heartwarming, it's not. 622 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 3: Try, it feels very real. Gave me big primo energy. 623 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 2: Honestly, the kind of sitcom where you just want to 624 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 2: sit in it and spend time with the people. 625 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 3: So I love that one. 626 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 2: That was another one of my ones, and I think 627 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 2: it's on Netflix so I'm like, guys, go watch it 628 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 2: on Netflix that I got the screeners. I really enjoyed it. 629 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 2: I recommended it to every who asked me for something 630 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 2: that they can watch and not feel stressed. So yeah, 631 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 2: that one's a really good one. Jason Wore are your 632 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 2: runners up this year? 633 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: My runners up? The Chair Company? Yeah, the wonderful, absolutely insane, 634 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: The Chair Company, The Studio, which was somewhat divisive, but 635 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed it. 636 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,399 Speaker 3: I love The Task, which is. 637 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 1: You know, I think technically a limited series, but I 638 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: thought was just like a wonderful, almost Shakespearean take on 639 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: a crime drama pluribus, a latecomer to the to the scene. 640 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: But I think one of the best TV shows of 641 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:40,280 Speaker 1: the year. But I have to say that the best 642 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 1: show for me in this year and of recent years 643 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: has to. 644 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 3: Be and Or agreed reason too. I agree. It is 645 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 3: just I couldn't even be like you take it and 646 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 3: I don't take it. 647 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 2: There were shows this year that I thought might compete, 648 00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 2: but no, maybe but no, And I love I definitely 649 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 2: see Jason. 650 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:01,879 Speaker 3: I feel like you're in your like. 651 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 2: Dad crime era because Task is so blacktop waste Lend, 652 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 2: It's so in that space of that kind of like 653 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 2: distressed guys fighting for what's right and doing their best 654 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 2: for their families. I think in a way, the reason 655 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,919 Speaker 2: and Or hit so hard is it has a lot 656 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 2: of those tropes that we understand because Tony Gilroy is 657 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,439 Speaker 2: such a fantastic writer who has worked in so many 658 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 2: different spaces that it has a lot of those really recognizable, 659 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 2: familiar tropes. But they were able to utilize the space 660 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 2: setting and the big broad star wars of it all 661 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 2: to tell a story that in its moments, in its time, 662 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 2: felt like it was reacting exactly to what was going 663 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 2: on in the world, even though it was made two 664 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 2: years before, and it still I think at the end 665 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty five feels more powerful than it did 666 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 2: at the beginning. And I love it and I'm so 667 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 2: glad it's your pick, it's my pick, that's our that's 668 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 2: our joint best TV show of the year that we love. 669 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 3: That's the one. It's and Or. 670 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 2: I don't think any other show touches it this year. 671 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 2: Good job Tony Gilay, good job Diego Luna, good job everyone. 672 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 3: What a show. 673 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 2: And Jason, I'm gonna ask you as our big this 674 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 2: is less of an award and this is our big take. 675 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 2: Let's ask the question here x V XRV question XRV 676 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 2: award question for next year? 677 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 3: Will it be answered next year? We need to know, Jason, 678 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 3: what's going on with superhero movies. 679 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 2: We mentioned Superman, We loved it, but there were some 680 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 2: other ones that didn't hit this year in the same 681 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 2: way for us. 682 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 1: It's it's true. Well, I mean clearly we are in 683 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: We are in a transition period for superhero movies and 684 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 1: for kind of the movie industry absolutely writ large in 685 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 1: terms of like where are the hits coming from? 686 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 3: Where are the where are. 687 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 1: The blockbusters coming from? Sinners was a complete. 688 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 3: Surprise people original idea. 689 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, people might try and reverse engineer it, but it's 690 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 1: going to be really hard to do. That came in 691 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: to a left field K pop K Pop, Zombie Hunters 692 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: came out of like came out of like left field. 693 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: Another like Five Nights of Freddy's is another one that. 694 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: So I think that we're just like at a stage 695 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 1: where the predictable route and formula that has worked for 696 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: the last fifteen years, which is mostly which is IP 697 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 1: and superheroes kind of doesn't deliver in the same way anymore, 698 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: and people are just looking for something new from anywhere. 699 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 2: And it makes sense because as we know trends, basically 700 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 2: it's around a thirteen to fifteen year cycle, and I 701 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,800 Speaker 2: feel like superhero movies have been the predominant thing that 702 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 2: always going to be there. They've always been there. We're 703 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 2: still going to be talking about them, They're still going 704 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 2: to be making a billion dollars. It wasn't so long ago, 705 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 2: ded Pol Wolverine did just that. Yes, but it's like 706 00:37:54,680 --> 00:38:00,040 Speaker 2: you said, original storytelling k Pop, Demon Hunters, Sinners, but 707 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 2: you know, one battle after another, loosely adapted from a book, 708 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 2: but still in that I would say the fin of 709 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 2: a film that we don't often get and it was 710 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,760 Speaker 2: not exactly you know, Thomas Pinson's not IP that's getting 711 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 2: people through the door, clearly, But like I think this 712 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 2: notion of hey, okay, we had fifteen years of this, 713 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 2: what does original storytelling look like? The fact that Fantastic 714 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 2: Four is not the biggest story of this year is 715 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 2: a failure to marvel simply on the fact that they 716 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 2: needed that. But they can refocus, They can go to 717 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 2: the X Men and also take some lessons from this year. 718 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 2: Look Superman was actually played it relatively safe, right, If 719 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 2: something is true to the character, feels like it's at 720 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 2: its heart, Like what was the big thing people loved 721 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,320 Speaker 2: about Superman? The fact he was, like, you know, running 722 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 2: around and picking up squirrels. 723 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 3: It was the little things. 724 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 2: That made it feel like, that's Superman. I want to 725 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 2: spend time with him. It's not about the world or 726 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,439 Speaker 2: the greater world. It's about is this Superman. I think 727 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 2: Marvel can do that, and I think Marvel can do 728 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,919 Speaker 2: weird shit. They can take lessons from what worked this year. 729 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 2: We know wonder Man is going to be coming out 730 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 2: in January. That's going to be their first thing. I'm 731 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 2: very excited. I think it's going to I think people 732 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 2: are overlooking this show. I think they're overlooking ya Ya 733 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 2: and his incredible potential, overlooking the creative team behind it. 734 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 2: I'm hoping Marvel starts off strong next year with that one. 735 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 2: And as for DC, I mean, we're looking at a 736 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 2: world where, according to an email that Netflix sent me, 737 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 2: they've already bought one of Brothers and it's happening and 738 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 2: there's no antitrust laws. 739 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 1: So Supergirl See it on Netflix. 740 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:31,800 Speaker 3: See it on Netflix exactly. 741 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,319 Speaker 2: Like, so I think that, like you said, Jason, we're 742 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 2: in a new space, We're in a new transitional era. 743 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 2: But the good thing is these stories are still here. 744 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 2: The comics are stronger than ever, and we're going to 745 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 2: keep seeing these great movies. But it's time for these 746 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 2: studios to realize, you've got to do something a bit different. 747 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,240 Speaker 2: K Pop Demon Hunters Sony sold that movie to Netflix 748 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 2: for twenty million dollars flat. They don't get royalties, they 749 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 2: don't get toy deals. They didn't see the power of it. 750 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,959 Speaker 2: So even the studios who are making these places don't 751 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 2: always know. But I think, by the way, looking at 752 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:03,359 Speaker 2: a spider. 753 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: Us never know. Let's talk about that with with comic books. 754 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: That was with the comic book kind of swell. That 755 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 1: was the most predictable period of movie making probably in 756 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 1: the history all the time, like maybe ever, you know, 757 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: you just knew there was there was a stretch there 758 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 1: where Marvel was like, this movie is going to make 759 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 1: a billion billion, this movie is going to make a billionaire. Close, 760 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 1: this movie is going to make a billionaire close. That 761 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: is not how it works. You know, AI is coming in. 762 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,399 Speaker 1: Different predictive models are coming in it doesn't matter. If 763 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 1: people knew how to make hits every single time, then 764 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 1: they would do it exactly. It's so I just think 765 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 1: we're back to a more quote unquote normal period of 766 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:53,879 Speaker 1: unpredictability that's also married to a unique period of business, 767 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,840 Speaker 1: like you know, corporations swallowing other corporations. 768 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,720 Speaker 3: I will say, guys, as well, look monopolies, they're bad. 769 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 3: Not gonna defend it. We know that. 770 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 2: But I will say in a way, there is an 771 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,720 Speaker 2: egalitarian nature to what is happening right now, where weird 772 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 2: movies that should not have been making a lot of money, 773 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 2: like Sinners. That movie, nobody thought it was gonna make 774 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 2: that much money, and it was a smash it. It 775 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 2: was critically acclaimed. It's a fantastic movie. It's an instant 776 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 2: classic weapons, super weird horror movie that opened to crazy 777 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 2: numbers like The Monkey, even making crazy money, like weird 778 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:32,800 Speaker 2: movies can break through. 779 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,919 Speaker 3: Counter programming is back. It can break through a little 780 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 3: bit more so. 781 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 2: Next year, superheroes are just gonna have to fight a 782 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,319 Speaker 2: little bit harder. And I think in that way, think 783 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 2: about the reason that MCU is amazing, it's because nobody, 784 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 2: you know, Fox had had their incredible X Men movies. 785 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 2: They'd had their so you know, Sony had Spider Man, 786 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 2: they'd had their big hits, but Marvel had not been 787 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 2: able to do that with the characters they had, so 788 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,840 Speaker 2: they had to think outside the box. They had to 789 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 2: do something different, and that is what inspired MCU and 790 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 2: the two thousand and eight kind of superherover naissance alongside 791 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 2: obviously the Dark Knight, again thinking outside the box with 792 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,799 Speaker 2: the way they approached it. So hopefully this will lead 793 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,879 Speaker 2: to that and we'll get some super good, weird shit 794 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 2: coming in the next few years from these comics that 795 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 2: we love, especially in a post absolute Batman world, Like 796 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,359 Speaker 2: there's no way that they're not trying to work out 797 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 2: how to make an absolute Batman movie right now. 798 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're figuring. They're trying to figure it out. 799 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 1: That has been the XRV Awards our Favorite Stuff of 800 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. What's your favorite stuff? Get us and 801 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 1: the discord tell us your favorite stuff. On the next 802 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: episode of X ray Vision, we're diving into The Chair 803 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: Company Finale and some more of our favorite movies that's 804 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 1: in this episode. Thanks for listening. 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