Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to the Thursday edition of Fair Territory. I'm
Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal here with Alana Rizzo, and we want to
Speaker 1: start the show today by of course congratulating Justin Verlander
Speaker 1: on not just being a legend pick in the All
Speaker 1: Star Game, but on his magnificent career. He announced at
Speaker 1: the end of the season he will retire yesterday, Alana,
Speaker 1: and of course this is a first ballot Hall of
Speaker 1: Famer if you have ever seen one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ken, great to be with you. As always, Cooper's
Speaker 2: Town waits for the great Justin Verlander. And it's funny too, because,
Speaker 2: as one of your colleagues wrote, Tyler Kepner wrote that
Speaker 2: it's the last of the three hundred win guys. Justin
Speaker 2: Verlander is. And it's ironic that we're talking about that
Speaker 2: during a week with a lot of pitching situations. What
Speaker 2: more can you tell us?
Speaker 1: Exactly, Alana. And it's a week in which we had
Speaker 1: three games in which there were significant no hit bids.
Speaker 1: We had managers treating these situations in a way that
Speaker 1: offended some fans, and we had the ongoing debate that
Speaker 1: we have had in this now for I don't know
Speaker 1: a decade or more. About pitcher usage and just how
Speaker 1: far you should go with starting pitchers. Now, that is
Speaker 1: a systemic problem in the sport, it's an industry problem.
Speaker 1: But each of these situations this week, and this is
Speaker 1: what I want to discuss, was different. And you can't
Speaker 1: compare Dylan SE's to Uri Perez to Jared Jones, because,
Speaker 1: as I said, these are all unique in their own way. Now,
Speaker 1: let's start with Cese, who, of course took a no
Speaker 1: hitter into the ninth inning against the Giants yesterday and
Speaker 1: came so close. But he was allowed to go that
Speaker 1: deep into the game because he's Dylan Sees. He's a
Speaker 1: guy who since twenty twenty one has led the major
Speaker 1: leagues in starts, is fifth in innings pitched. He is
Speaker 1: a starting pitcher who does go deep into games. He
Speaker 1: is a veteran starting pitcher. So you see with Keig
Speaker 1: and Matheson tweets right there, John Schneider saying he wanted
Speaker 1: to give Cease the chance. I'm a fan of baseball.
Speaker 1: If I can let a player have that opportunity, I'm
Speaker 1: going to do it every single time. So you might ask, well,
Speaker 1: is Marlin's manager Clayton McCullough a fan of baseball. Isn'm
Speaker 1: Pirates manager Don Kelly a fan of baseball? And yes
Speaker 1: they are fans of baseball. But here's the deal with
Speaker 1: Jared Jones. This is a guy who was making his
Speaker 1: eighth start since returning on May twenty eighth from a
Speaker 1: UCL repair a major elbow surgery. It was his eighth start.
Speaker 1: He had not gone more than five innings. Now, I
Speaker 1: know it was seventy seven pitches, but you're not going
Speaker 1: to take that chance with a pitcher like Jared Jones
Speaker 1: who is coming off surgery. You're just not. That is
Speaker 1: the way the game is today. Now we can complain
Speaker 1: about the way pitchers are trained, about the fact that
Speaker 1: teams do not encourage pitchers in the minor leagues to
Speaker 1: go deep into games. There may be overprotective of these
Speaker 1: pictures pitchers, but at the same time, that is the reality.
Speaker 1: With Yuri Perez, this was same thing Ury Perez. Seven
Speaker 1: perfect innings, ninety two pitches. Do we want to see
Speaker 1: a perfect game, of course, we want to see a
Speaker 1: perfect game, but Eury Perez Tommy John surgery in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four, an injury this season, a thigh muscle injury,
Speaker 1: and he didn't come off the injured list until June
Speaker 1: twenty fourth. It's a guy who's had some injury issues
Speaker 1: in his career. You're not going to push it. And
Speaker 1: that's what people need to understand. I get it, and
Speaker 1: I want to see guys pitch deeper into games too.
Speaker 1: But that problem, that problem is starting in the minor leagues.
Speaker 1: It's starting with the reward system. It's starting with what
Speaker 1: teams have done to change the way they use starting pitchers.
Speaker 1: And that is a problem that goes well beyond any
Speaker 1: individual decision. Those two individual decisions, the Marlins decision and
Speaker 1: the Pirates decision. To me, Alana and you might disagree,
Speaker 1: they were understandable.
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with you. Brings me back when I
Speaker 2: was covering the Los Angeles Dodgers ken and I know
Speaker 2: everybody says I keep bringing that up, but there was
Speaker 2: a situation Ross Strippling, very new, very young in his
Speaker 2: green career, was throwing a no hitter at the Giants Stadium,
Speaker 2: and at the time I think it was at and
Speaker 2: T Park, and he was very very new in his
Speaker 2: career and Dave Roberts had to pull him throwing a
Speaker 2: no hitter. It may have even been a perfect game
Speaker 2: at the time, throwing a no hitter certainly into the
Speaker 2: sixth inning, but it was all about pitchcount. And I
Speaker 2: remember when Dave took him out. Ross Stripling's dad called
Speaker 2: Dave Roberts and thanked him for saving his son's arm
Speaker 2: and thinking about his son's future, not just history in
Speaker 2: that moment. But again, Dylan sees is a very different
Speaker 2: pitcher at the time now than Ross Strippling was at
Speaker 2: the time. How much does post season length play into this?
Speaker 3: Ken?
Speaker 2: What I mean by that is some guys are on
Speaker 2: in terms of a pitch count or innings pitched in
Speaker 2: the postseason, have way more innings pitched because their team
Speaker 2: goes much deeper into the year.
Speaker 1: All on. That is a great point and I'm glad
Speaker 1: you're bringing up now. Mike Petriello of him had a
Speaker 1: really good tweet about this yesterday. He said, one thing
Speaker 1: I don't think gets enough play when talking about starting
Speaker 1: pitchers getting pulled is how much longer the postseason is
Speaker 1: now and how to prepare for that? Ya Mamoto through
Speaker 1: thirty seven and a third innings in the playoffs last year.
Speaker 1: Sandy KOFAX fifty seven total playoff innings in his career. Now,
Speaker 1: why is this relevant for the Marlins and the Pirates,
Speaker 1: Because as of this moment, they're trying to get there,
Speaker 1: They're trying to get to the postseason. They're trying to
Speaker 1: extend these pictures probably to places Jared Jones and Uri
Speaker 1: Perez that they have not been before. So even if
Speaker 1: you look at it from the regular season perspective, you
Speaker 1: want Perez and Jones pitching deep into September, then you
Speaker 1: want them available for October. So Mike raises a great point.
Speaker 1: You make a great point yourself, Alano, with this. Obviously
Speaker 1: the postseason and the length of it is a factor,
Speaker 1: But with the Pirates and Marlins, in these two particular decisions,
Speaker 1: it was narrower that it was simply, Hey, these guys
Speaker 1: are at a certain stage of the season, a certain
Speaker 1: stage of getting stretched out. Oil press is stretched out.
Speaker 1: We're not going to take any chances because of where
Speaker 1: they are coming from physically.
Speaker 2: All right, Before we wrap it up and get to
Speaker 2: Dudeen dork of the week, Justin Verlander three regular season
Speaker 2: no hitters, one of only six pitchers in Major League
Speaker 2: Baseball history to throw at least three no Hitters. Congratulations
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Speaker 1: definitely Montreal, I just don't remember the year, and I swam.
Speaker 1: I pulled it off. I got the tickets and he
Speaker 1: took me to the game. The All Star Game is
Speaker 1: one of the coolest events and this year in Philly
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it just really makes sense. Of course, two hundred
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Speaker 1: I'm the dude, so that's what you call.
Speaker 3: Me, ken.
Speaker 2: We're switching things up a little bit this week in
Speaker 2: terms of the order, so it is time now for
Speaker 2: your Dude of the week.
Speaker 1: Who is it. My Dude of the week is the
Speaker 1: Kansas City Royals Tyler Tolbert. Now I don't know that
Speaker 1: a lot of fans have heard of this guy before
Speaker 1: this week. I can't say I was all that familiar
Speaker 1: with Tyler Tolbert before this week, but here is a
Speaker 1: player who recorded hits in twelve consecutive plate appearances. And
Speaker 1: as he said, it's a tough game, that's really hard
Speaker 1: to do, and I'm gonna be humble about it because
Speaker 1: there is some luck involved. But good for him. Here's
Speaker 1: a guy who is a thirteenth round pick in twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: three hundred and seventy ninth overall, never a top prospect.
Speaker 1: He's twenty eight years old, and he's a guy who
Speaker 1: really has attracted most of his notoriety for his base
Speaker 1: running acumen. So Tyler Tolbert due to the week, great job,
Speaker 1: and that was just a fantastic achievement.
Speaker 2: Yeah, awesome, Good for him. My dude of the week
Speaker 2: is Eliezer Alfonso Junior. Now, this obviously was not because
Speaker 2: of a historic moment, but what he was dealing with
Speaker 2: in terms of a historic moment personally. So obviously everybody
Speaker 2: knows about the earthquakes in Venezuela and what should have
Speaker 2: been a wonderful opportunity and a wonderful moment for he
Speaker 2: and his family. His major League baseball debut also came
Speaker 2: with a heavy heart and a heavy mind, Ken, because unfortunately,
Speaker 2: his stepmother and his sister were one of the two
Speaker 2: people in Venezuela who have perished because of the earthquakes there.
Speaker 2: So on the date in which he had to make
Speaker 2: his major league debut and had the opportunity to, he
Speaker 2: was dealing with the death of two people in his
Speaker 2: family that are very close to him. Another reason I
Speaker 2: picked him as my dude of the Week is he
Speaker 2: certainly did not have to address the media and reporters
Speaker 2: in the clubhouse after the game, and he chose to
Speaker 2: do so on certainly what was a very emotional day
Speaker 2: for him. So for that reason, congratulations on your debut.
Speaker 2: But also am I due to the week for everything
Speaker 2: that he is dealing with. Okay, we're moving on now
Speaker 2: to our dork of the week. All right, Ken, who
Speaker 2: is your dork of the week?
Speaker 4: All right, Alana.
Speaker 1: Now I'm going to preface this by saying, these dorks
Speaker 1: of the week, both mine and yours, are possibly going
Speaker 1: to be rescinded in the league. Major League Baseball does
Speaker 1: the right thing. These are temporary Dorks of the Week
Speaker 1: pending better decisions. Now, neither of these decisions is an
Speaker 1: egregious offense, But let's talk about some All Star and
Speaker 1: Home Run Derby omissions. I'm gonna go with MLB as
Speaker 1: dork of the Week for the Zach Wheeler omission. Now,
Speaker 1: I get it, and I get that they pick the
Speaker 1: teams and it's the players obviously having a say, and
Speaker 1: the player ballot, and then Major League Baseball rounding out
Speaker 1: the roster. There was an easy salution here to start here,
Speaker 1: and it was with Zach Wheeler making the team over
Speaker 1: Logan Web. Now, I know Wheelers started the season late,
Speaker 1: coming off thoracic outlet surgery, but that's kind of the point.
Speaker 1: This guy's coming off an injury that rex careers and
Speaker 1: he's pitching at his usual brilliant level. And Logan Web,
Speaker 1: he's been good. He had a great June. I love
Speaker 1: Logan Web. But two San Francisco Giants on the All
Speaker 1: Star team. I don't know that we needed that. Now
Speaker 1: you might say, well, we didn't need We don't need
Speaker 1: six Philadelphia Phillies either. But that said, Zach Wheeler needs
Speaker 1: to be on the team. And I know he's pitching Sunday,
Speaker 1: but he's already said, Hey man, I'll pitch Tuesday. So
Speaker 1: let's go MLB fix this one and have us rescind
Speaker 1: this particular dark of the week now A lota, it
Speaker 1: is your turn.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of feel like you and I are
Speaker 2: on the same page, and mine is for Hunter Goodman.
Speaker 2: How is Hunter Goodman not invited to participate in the
Speaker 2: Home Run Derby? For all I know, there's not been
Speaker 2: a lot of people chomping at the bit to get
Speaker 2: into this thing. And if you're going to applaud the
Speaker 2: Colorado Rockies, there's not been a lot of opportunity to
Speaker 2: do so, and Hunter Goodman is one of their bright spots.
Speaker 2: Now he is their representative for the All Star Game.
Speaker 2: But the man has twenty seven home runs so far,
Speaker 2: and I understand that people are going to say he
Speaker 2: plays a corse field, but if you look at his splits,
Speaker 2: he has more on the road than he does at home.
Speaker 2: So Hunter Goodman should be able to or at least
Speaker 2: be invited to certainly participate in the Home Run Derby. Again,
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, that could be rescinded, but I definitely
Speaker 2: think he is deserving a very deserving invitation to that
Speaker 2: home run derby.
Speaker 1: And let me make this clear, Alta, we will be
Speaker 1: happy to rescind the Dorka the week's honors for MLB
Speaker 1: if they do the right thing. Amen.
Speaker 2: All right, We're going to get to a Thursday Inside
Speaker 2: Dish right after this. It is our Thursday edition of
Speaker 2: Inside Dish, unpacking the latest with the starting pitching market
Speaker 2: at the trade deadline. Everyone can well, not necessarily, the
Speaker 2: Mariners needs starting pitching. I know that you and Will
Speaker 2: Salmon had a column today about the starting staff. Tell
Speaker 2: us a little bit more about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, our notes column today had a number of items
Speaker 1: about starting pitchers who may be available, may not be available.
Speaker 1: And I'll start with one that we didn't write about today,
Speaker 1: But of course we'll be writing about and have written about,
Speaker 1: and we'll write a lot about at some point as
Speaker 1: we get closer to the deadline, and that is Trek Schoogle.
Speaker 1: Now you might recall, and I will call myself out
Speaker 1: on this, when the Tigers were sixteen games under five hundred.
Speaker 1: This was late May. They were twenty two and thirty eight.
Speaker 1: I wrote, that's it. They're trading him. They're not coming
Speaker 1: back from sixteen under, well they're now eight under. They're
Speaker 1: eight under in a week division, in a week league,
Speaker 1: and you have the possibility of a serious wildcard run,
Speaker 1: if not a division run. They're four out in the
Speaker 1: wildcard race right now, just four games, and with a
Speaker 1: positive run differential. They're looking at a situation where, you
Speaker 1: know what, let's play this out, Let's see where we go.
Speaker 1: So Trek Scooble, I still think he might be available,
Speaker 1: and maybe he's available only at an extreme price. Who
Speaker 1: knows how this is going to play out, but the
Speaker 1: Tigers are making this interesting. You see the division right there,
Speaker 1: it's five and a half. It's not insignificant, but it's
Speaker 1: not insurmountable either. Sonny Gray Boston Red Sox could be
Speaker 1: named to the All Star team with Rangers Suarez going
Speaker 1: on the il Sonny Gray is another interesting one because
Speaker 1: the Boston Red Sox, like the Tigers, are surging. And
Speaker 1: I didn't expect this either, or I don't know that
Speaker 1: many of us did. But here they are. They've won
Speaker 1: I believe nine of eleven. They too are in the
Speaker 1: thick of the wildcard race. They too have a positive
Speaker 1: run differential, and their roster is looking more viable of late,
Speaker 1: they've done some things to make things a little bit better.
Speaker 1: Now they're waiting to hear on the injuries potential injuries
Speaker 1: to Contraras and Sigler. But as long as those guys
Speaker 1: are health they'll be in a good spot in the
Speaker 1: Red Sox. Who knows if they're going to sell. So
Speaker 1: those are two guys that we thought would be available,
Speaker 1: maybe as recently as a week or two ago, And no,
Speaker 1: we're not so sure. Now you might say, okay, let's
Speaker 1: talk about some pictures who could be available in Alana.
Speaker 1: Who would you like to start with there?
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good question because there's a lot of
Speaker 2: people that everyone is like, Terrek Schooble, Tarak Schooble, Trek Scoubel.
Speaker 2: But Sunny Gray is an interesting case ken because he
Speaker 2: had to wave his no trade class to even come
Speaker 2: over to the Red Sox, so he likely would have
Speaker 2: to do that again, but he did say he was
Speaker 2: amenable to it if that was best for the team.
Speaker 2: Do you see him going someplace else? And if so,
Speaker 2: could Atlanta be a possibility?
Speaker 1: Atlanta would be the obvious choice actually, And as will
Speaker 1: and I wrote, Atlanta is close to sunny Gray's home
Speaker 1: in Nashville. He has been at times in his career
Speaker 1: kind of particular about where he wanted to go. That's
Speaker 1: why he signed with Saint Louis a few years back.
Speaker 1: And Atlanta has prospects. They also have money, especially after
Speaker 1: saving fifteen million with the Jerks and Profar suspension, so
Speaker 1: they should be in a flexible position again if the
Speaker 1: Red Sox decide to sell. One thing about the contract
Speaker 1: that Gray has that we should note he's owed about
Speaker 1: forty million going into this year. He's owed about forty million,
Speaker 1: but the Cardinals are contributing twenty million of that. It's
Speaker 1: forty one million that he was owed at the start
Speaker 1: of the season with his salary and buyout, and now
Speaker 1: actually after the Cardinals contribution, it was down to twenty
Speaker 1: one million, which if the deadline means it'll be about
Speaker 1: six million plus, not a crazy figure for a team
Speaker 1: looking to add a starting pitcher.
Speaker 2: What about Louis Castillo?
Speaker 1: This is a really interesting one, Alana, and we wrote
Speaker 1: about him as well. So the Mariners right now they've
Speaker 1: got a six man rotation. All six guys are pitching well,
Speaker 1: including Castillo, who had a rocky start to his season,
Speaker 1: but since mid May three point twenty five e looking
Speaker 1: like Louis Castillo. He is the highest paid Mariner, he
Speaker 1: is a leader on that team. And yet you've got
Speaker 1: a six man rotation. You've got one of the top
Speaker 1: pitching prospects, if not the top pitching prospects at double
Speaker 1: A right now, left hander cater and Anderson, third pick
Speaker 1: in last year's draft. He's ready to come. So, if
Speaker 1: you're the Mariners and you need help right handed bat,
Speaker 1: a leverage reliever, obviously they have the ability to trade
Speaker 1: a starter, and Castilla would seem to be the obvious one.
Speaker 1: They're not going to want to trade a Logan Gilbert
Speaker 1: or George Kirby, pitchers with control. They would probably prefer
Speaker 1: to trade Castillo, who has another year of control as well,
Speaker 1: but is more expensive and seemingly would be in this
Speaker 1: case the odd man out. Now, that's said. Mariner's president
Speaker 1: baseball Operation is Jerry Depoto and his general manager Justin Hollander.
Speaker 1: They are not necessarily predictable. They are not necessarily guys
Speaker 1: who will follow the path we as media, I think
Speaker 1: they will follow. So again, this is something to watch
Speaker 1: simply because the Mariners have a surplus in an area
Speaker 1: where most teams are short.
Speaker 2: Can These two guys that I'm gonna say next are
Speaker 2: probably the most intriguing to me just because of where
Speaker 2: their team sits right now. Nathan Evaldi and Jacob de Grom. Now,
Speaker 2: if you look at the standings, the Texas Rangers are
Speaker 2: right there, They're only a half game out of first
Speaker 2: place in the AL West, and they're in the postseason
Speaker 2: right now. In terms of the wild Card if the
Speaker 2: season ended today, do they move Evaldi, do they move
Speaker 2: de Grom or do they stay pat.
Speaker 1: Depends how they play, if they play well or even
Speaker 1: mediocre enough to remain in the race, because that's all
Speaker 1: you need to do in the American League and the
Speaker 1: American League West, as you can see right there, if
Speaker 1: they do that, it would be a surprise if they
Speaker 1: even entertained moving either of those guys, along with coreys
Speaker 1: Or who we wrote about as well. Now, both those guys,
Speaker 1: de Grom and Avaldi have full no trade clauses, and
Speaker 1: in the Grahm's case in particular, he likes Texas. I
Speaker 1: don't know that he wants to leave Texas, so you
Speaker 1: would have to convince him that the franchise is going
Speaker 1: in another direction, and probably Evaldi the same before they
Speaker 1: would even think about approving a trade. So I would
Speaker 1: categorize those guys as unlikely. But the Rangers are a
Speaker 1: team to watch in the coming weeks because, as you mentioned, Alana,
Speaker 1: they are in great position from a playoff competition standpoint,
Speaker 1: and yet I haven't played well. Seeger Is out again,
Speaker 1: Wyatt Langford out again, expected back after the break. They
Speaker 1: also are expecting three starting pitchers to join them after
Speaker 1: the break or sometime in the next three weeks, Jack Lyder,
Speaker 1: Cody Bradford, and yes, Jordan Montgomery. So in theory, with
Speaker 1: an easier schedule ahead, the Rangers should be able to push.
Speaker 1: We'll see if they actually do. They've been a disappointing
Speaker 1: team really for two and a half seasons. Now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, some of the Kansas City Royals ken and that
Speaker 2: kind of bums me out. They're last in the AL Central.
Speaker 2: They're ten games out of the division, eight and a
Speaker 2: half out of a wild card race. I doubt very
Speaker 2: seriously that they get into the postseason, even in a
Speaker 2: very weak American league. You hate it with you, Bobby
Speaker 2: wit Junior and the talent that they have there, But
Speaker 2: they do have some good starting pitching that I'm certain
Speaker 2: other teams are going to be interested in, Seth Lugo
Speaker 2: and Michael Waka. Now you think, you guys think that
Speaker 2: they would need a massive package to move them. What
Speaker 2: would that entail?
Speaker 1: Top prospects and multiple top prospects? And the reason for
Speaker 1: that is the Royals, with Bobby Wit Junior and MIKEL.
Speaker 1: Garcia signed long term, with Vinie Basquentino still there, with
Speaker 1: Jack cagleon comming and Carter Jensen coming on as well,
Speaker 1: they believe they can be good next year. They should
Speaker 1: have been good this year and they're not going to
Speaker 1: tear down with Witt and Garcia signed long term. The
Speaker 1: other problem they have is they're starting pitching is in
Speaker 1: a problematic place for twenty twenty seven. Cole Reagan's will
Speaker 1: not be available after undergoing the UCL repair until probably
Speaker 1: July at the earliest. Chris Bubach is a free agent,
Speaker 1: so you look at that and then you have the
Speaker 1: challenge of not really having much a triple A ready
Speaker 1: to step in. The question becomes, Okay, who's going to
Speaker 1: pitch for them next year? And that is why they
Speaker 1: would demand a massive haul to even entertain considering or
Speaker 1: entertain or consider trading one of those guys. Now, Lugo
Speaker 1: is not having a great year. Waka, of course is
Speaker 1: an All Star. But I really don't see the Royals
Speaker 1: getting pushed enough to trade either of those pitchers.
Speaker 2: Ken, You've been doing this a long time at the
Speaker 2: highest level, and I don't remember a trade deadline, albeit
Speaker 2: it is a little bit later this year on August third,
Speaker 2: but it is so convoluted because the American League is
Speaker 2: so weak and only four teams I believe only four
Speaker 2: teams have a winning record in the American League. How
Speaker 2: does that look in terms of buying and selling and
Speaker 2: the wild card standings, and how confusing this deadline can be.
Speaker 1: Alana, you've kind of hit the nail on the head
Speaker 1: right now with the deadline three plus weeks away. You
Speaker 1: have all of this. I don't know even how to
Speaker 1: describe it. It's this massive group of teams that are
Speaker 1: in the mix. Some of them don't deserve to be
Speaker 1: in the mix, and some of them are just merely
Speaker 1: in the mix because they're playing in a week division
Speaker 1: or a week league. But that is the reality. So
Speaker 1: I just had a GM ask me this morning, Hey,
Speaker 1: who are the real sellers right now? Outside of San Francisco, Colorado?
Speaker 1: And maybe maybe the Angels there aren't many. Now, some
Speaker 1: of those teams will fall out that we're not talking
Speaker 1: about here and they'll become sellers. Maybe it's the Oriols,
Speaker 1: the Red Sox, Cincinnati Reds certainly are trending that way,
Speaker 1: but as of now, teams are not ready to make
Speaker 1: that judgment. And you've got this weekend and they won't
Speaker 1: even entertain thinking about this until the sport returns from
Speaker 1: the All Star breaks, so it is convoluted. It is
Speaker 1: kind of a messy situation right now, and that makes
Speaker 1: it all the more fascinating too, because this kind of situation,
Speaker 1: if it continues, could lead teams to be more creative,
Speaker 1: make major leaguer for major leaguer type trades because they
Speaker 1: will need to fill each other's needs. All right, Alana,
Speaker 1: I want to thank you for joining me as always,
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Speaker 1: All right. Time now for Grill and Ken the part
Speaker 1: of the show where I answer your questions, Let's get
Speaker 1: right to them. First question comes from Elvis Santoya, who
Speaker 1: asked Ken of the teams that are clearly out of
Speaker 1: the playoff picture, which is poised to capitalize the most
Speaker 1: at the trade deadline. Interesting question because I'm not sure
Speaker 1: any of the likely sellers right now are going to
Speaker 1: really capitalize in a big way. I would say the Giants,
Speaker 1: because they've got Louis Arise and they've got Robbie Ray,
Speaker 1: two guys on expiring contracts, they will probably do better
Speaker 1: than the Rockies will for whoever they might want to trade.
Speaker 1: That said, if the Angels actually sell, and we haven't
Speaker 1: seen them do this in quite some time, then read
Speaker 1: Debt Meers and Jose Soriana are in play, and then yes,
Speaker 1: they would get more for those guys than the Giants
Speaker 1: would for Arise and Ray, who are both rentals. Soriano
Speaker 1: and Debtmers both have control beyond this season, So the Angels,
Speaker 1: if they want to do it, they can be an
Speaker 1: interesting seller, all right. Next question comes from the Foul
Speaker 1: Territory Show. Good question. Will Don Mattingly be managing the
Speaker 1: Phillies next year? The answer to that question for quite
Speaker 1: some time now has been no. He has said all
Speaker 1: along that this is a short term arrangement. He doesn't
Speaker 1: expect to do it beyond this year. But in an
Speaker 1: interview last night on ESPN with Buster Only, maddally opened
Speaker 1: the door and said, yeah, I always thought of this
Speaker 1: as a two year commitment to the organization, and I
Speaker 1: would entertain managing next year. That's a pivot for him. Actually,
Speaker 1: it's a reversal from him. It's even beyond the pivot.
Speaker 1: And it's going to be interesting to see how this
Speaker 1: plays out. Obviously, the Phillies are doing quite well, but
Speaker 1: they made a run at alex Cora after Cora was fired,
Speaker 1: and the expectation is they will make it a run
Speaker 1: at alex Cora again, no matter what Mattingly does or
Speaker 1: what he wants to do. So I would expect that
Speaker 1: the next Phillies manager is still going to be Alex Corra.
Speaker 1: But to hear maddingly say that, and certainly if the
Speaker 1: Phillies go far this season, it makes it a more
Speaker 1: complicated picture. Let's put it that way, all right. One
Speaker 1: more question before we run this one for Wicked Better
Speaker 1: fifty four, one of our best questioners who says there's
Speaker 1: a lot of talk about potential trades between contenders this year.
Speaker 1: Would you say those are harder trades to make than
Speaker 1: a trade between a buyer and a seller In some ways, yes,
Speaker 1: But in recent years the buy cell type trades in
Speaker 1: which multiple prospects go for a rental piece or a
Speaker 1: piece under control, they've become more difficult too, because teams
Speaker 1: are so unwilling to trade prospects. So if you're in
Speaker 1: a situation where you don't want to trade prospects, maybe
Speaker 1: trading surplus off your major league roster to address a
Speaker 1: deficiency is actually an easier way to go. I don't know.
Speaker 1: We'll talk after August third and see how this all
Speaker 1: plays out. All right, I want to thank everyone for
Speaker 1: watching for listening. As always, we've got foul Territory coming up.
Speaker 1: Alana is hosting Aeric Kratz and Kevin Pollar with her
Speaker 1: Cody steven Hagen from The Athletic Are Great Tigers writer
Speaker 1: and former Major league execu Jim Duquette will join them.
Speaker 1: We are back Monday live from the All Star Site, Philadelphia.
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