1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody. It's Fantasy Pros on Twitch. I'm your host, 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Scott Bagman, joined by Tara Roberts. I love that our 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: last name. I give you that Raiders intro Tara. We 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: are here to answer your fantasy football questions today for 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: the next hour. But I gotta ask you, how is 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: the Houston summer treating you here? Tara? We haven't talked 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: in a little bit, and it has been hot and 8 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: muggy here in h town. 9 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: It has Luckily for me, I'm not having to go outside. 10 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: I'm apointing it as much as humanly possible. Would like 11 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 2: a little bit of rain, but other than that, I 12 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 2: just can't come outside. I can't even sit on my porch, Like, 13 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: what is this? 14 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not It is not fun. It is the 15 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: dog days of the heat right now, and it is 16 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: the dog days of summer here and all of our 17 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: waiting to get you know, any information here. What has 18 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: stood out to you through the early days in camp 19 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: we're getting guys put on NFI's on the pup, things 20 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: of that nature. What has stood out to you so far? 21 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: You know? The thing that's set out to me today 22 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: is we're, as I noticed, we started to get those 23 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 2: Carolina height videos going that Jonathan Brooks news in terms 24 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: of hey, you know, he's looking good in training camp 25 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 2: and whatnot. He's actually in training camp. That's the fantastic 26 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: news because as you know, as unappealing is as Carolina 27 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 2: can be, like, from a greater perspective, the run game 28 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 2: really does matter there in terms of what that outlook 29 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: is going to because they want to be run heavy. 30 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: We have a good discount on both Tuba Hubard and 31 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 2: Jonathan Brooks, so someone is going to be good value 32 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: for us there. So that's what I'm looking forward to 33 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: here is seeing how long Jonathan gob Brooks can stay healthy, 34 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,839 Speaker 2: what kind of role he's going to have, because sounds 35 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 2: like they want to get him involved right off the 36 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 2: bat from a receiving perspective at the very least. So 37 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: I'm excited to see how this plays out. 38 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Jonathan Brooks has been a point of 39 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: contention a little bit with myself and Fitsie and I'm 40 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: the Texas guy and I've just not been as in 41 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: on Jonathan Brooks as everybody else. And I think it's 42 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: it's probably because I start from the Dynasty perspective. In 43 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: my in my stuff, right, Like, is Jonathan Brooks going 44 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: to be a long term option for the Panthers. I 45 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: understand that Chewba Hubbard is not exciting this season. He's 46 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: a guy that has carried the workload and I think 47 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: he was hurt very early last year and kind of 48 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: drug that with him throughout the rest of the season. 49 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: And you know, in the offseason from twenty four to 50 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: twenty five, they extended him. They made him a team captain, 51 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: so they obviously like him. So I feel like they're 52 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: going to give him every opportunity first. But as Tony 53 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: Romo taught us a long time ago, the NFL is 54 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: a meritocracy, and if you can't make it work, it 55 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: doesn't matter how popular you are and how great of 56 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: a team leader you are. If you're that great of 57 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: a team leader, then go into coaching if you can't play, 58 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: you know, So it is going to be the cream 59 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: that ryans rises to the top, and that might be 60 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: Jonathan Brooks. Here, I was interested to read that Isaiah 61 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: Davis might have the inside track on the number two 62 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: job with the Jets. Now, how do you sort through 63 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: pandering beat writer or not sense this time of year, 64 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: because look, they're trying to get clicks like everybody else is. 65 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: Is this something that you take with a grain of salt? 66 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: Do you give a lot of these reports credit? You know, 67 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: because I feel like we can go back to any 68 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: offseason look at the reports and see that it's eighty 69 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: percent nonsense. I feel like most of the time, yeah, 70 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: I tried. 71 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 2: In general, I try to assess how reliable the team 72 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 2: as a whole has been. Like if I look at like, 73 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 2: let's look at a team like Jacksonville right looking back 74 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: to them in the experience that we had with the 75 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 2: whole first team versus second team and Tank Bigsby and 76 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: Baseil Tutin and Travis Etn. For it to end up 77 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 2: just being the expectation of, hey, it's still going to 78 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: be Travis Etn and Tank bigs be getting shipped off. 79 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 2: We have to be careful about looking at these who's 80 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: getting first team reps and whatnot and really look at 81 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: the actual usage of the guys because a lot of 82 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 2: times these teams are trying to work things out. So 83 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: just because you see someone running with a certain team 84 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily mean that they've secured a job now for 85 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: the Jets, though it is of interesting because for years now, 86 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: with Aaron Glenn and just in general, we've heard like 87 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: they want to have this three headed monster, right, and 88 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 2: we've always been trying to identify as there's going to 89 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: be something that we can get on the side here. 90 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: And at the end of the. 91 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: Day's got the same vibes of Kyle Shanahan saying we 92 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: got to get CMC off the field exactly, and. 93 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 2: It never happens, right, So I don't take too much 94 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: aggressive stock into it. Handcuffs matter at the end of 95 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 2: the day. But really and truly speaking, probably no one 96 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 2: else in terms of running backs outside of Breues Hall 97 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 2: is going to offer us any kind of standalone value here. 98 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: I'm just going to keep throwing questions out to you 99 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: unless anyone out here has you know, if anybody out 100 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: here has got some questions for us, we will answer them, 101 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: throw them in the chat. But I'm I'm going to 102 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: keep asking you questions as we go. Another situation that 103 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 1: has vexed me is the Washington running backs, and I 104 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: have been it's been tough for me to know what 105 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: to do with these guys, and I got hammered a 106 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: little bit on social media earlier this offseason for saying that, 107 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: I'm just not that into Bill Krossky Merritt, Right, Like, 108 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: I feel like Rashad White is definitely taking the receiving 109 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: downs away from anybody any other running back on this team. 110 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: I think that's pretty clear. Right. They've spoken about maybe 111 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: Kitron Allen taking the Chris Rodriguez role of the goal 112 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: line back. If that's the case, I think JCM could 113 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: be a great receiving back. But not when you ever 114 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: shot White here? Right, And it's not really in his purview, 115 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: you know, at he didn't do it a lot in college. 116 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: I guess I should say, So, what are your thoughts 117 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: on this backfield? Does it still Bill Krosskey Merrit? I 118 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: mean I kind of still expect him to lead in carries. 119 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: I just don't know if that means he'll lead in touches. 120 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: And are you avoiding this? Is there one that you like? 121 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: How how do you flesh out the Washington situation here? 122 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 2: Well, none of the ADP's are so bad that I 123 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 2: think that any one of them is going to be 124 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: the worst pick that you've ever made in your life. Right, Like, 125 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: if I get a question from someone tasting, I want 126 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 2: to take Kitron Allen at the end of drafts, I say, 127 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 2: go for it, man. I mean, it's not it's not 128 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 2: going to kill you, right, Something's going to happen there, 129 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: but it The good thing I will say, at least 130 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: with JCM is that at the very least we have 131 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 2: had acknowledgment that one he clearly knows that he has 132 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 2: to make that improvement on pass protection and receiving to 133 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 2: be more reliable in order to have a bigger role 134 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 2: than this offense. And that is something that he's been 135 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: working on. So again, looking at training camp, we need 136 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 2: to actually see it in person, right, because you're right, 137 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, we factually know that 138 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 2: Rashad White is definitely the best blocker and the best 139 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 2: receiver on that team. The question is is how much 140 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 2: can we get the progress forward from a guy like 141 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: JCM in order to see if he can actually bridge 142 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 2: the gap and become a three down back there. I 143 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 2: kind of think it's going to work out as a committee. 144 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 2: But when I go back and look at Jane daniels 145 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 2: rookie season, just kind of disregard last season, right because 146 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 2: he didn't play enough for us to really evaluate. When 147 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 2: I go back and look at Jane Daniels rookie season, right. 148 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 2: I kind of do think at the end of the day, 149 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: we might want to lean towards the early down back 150 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 2: there because I know the appeal of Rashad White is, Hey, 151 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 2: the limited pass catchers, right, all we've got is Terry mcluurin. 152 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 2: We can't trust anybody else, so naturally we're just going 153 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 2: to see more volume two for Shod White. I don't 154 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 2: know if that'll necessarily happen, right, he would have to 155 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: kind of line up as a receiver to see that 156 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 2: natural increase beyond the checkdowns that we saw in Jane 157 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 2: Daniels worthy season. I think I want the goal line 158 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: back there, So maybe that's the kind of thing like 159 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 2: we acknowledge for Shod White is the best receiving option there. 160 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 2: But let's use training camp to kind of nail down. 161 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 2: Is JCM going to for sure have this goal line back? 162 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 2: I think that's the argument there. We got to figure 163 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: out what's going on between him and k Tron Allen. 164 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: If you had to pick the the player with the 165 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: second most targets behind Terry McLaurin right now, would you 166 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: pick for Shot or would it be maybe Chicka Konkquo 167 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: or Antonio Williams, or maybe a mister outside higher like 168 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: they would say in the office. Is it maybe Stefan 169 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: Diggs coming into town or someone else that they might sign? 170 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if once I've got zero faith that 171 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: the Brandon I you think is going to be like 172 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: that doesn't seem like yeah, Like no, I agree with you. 173 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: I think if anyone's brought in, it would be Stephan 174 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: Diggs and that would be a nice fit. So I 175 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: hope they do that. But he's got his own things 176 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: that he has to figure out terms of legal issues 177 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 2: as well, So maybe they're waiting on that one too, 178 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 2: because I would think that would be the best fit 179 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: for them. But other than that, it is Chig that 180 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 2: I want. I think he's a fine late round target 181 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 2: for anyone that wants to, you know, bypass save up 182 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: on value and kind of try the streaming option there. 183 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: Chig obviously was not a massive target hog and by 184 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 2: any means in Tennessee, but that was more so the 185 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 2: function of one the offense situation, and obviously pass volume 186 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 2: being down. I do think that he would have the 187 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: opportunity to step in and have relevance here and looking 188 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 2: back at previous seasons, Jane Daniels did rely on zach 189 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 2: Ertz a lot. It doesn't feel like it, right because 190 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 2: it wasn't as if he was breaking off any runs 191 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 2: because he's a little bit he was a little bit older, right, 192 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 2: But say like it was like catch a ball fall. 193 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: But with Chig, I know that he could take that 194 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 2: pass volume, those sixty plus receptions and turn that into 195 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 2: something after the catch. So I think there's that's the 196 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 2: area that I would go to is Chig. Maybe obviously 197 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 2: I would love Antonio Williams, right, but. 198 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: That depend on ru. 199 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like we'll push that one further back in a 200 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 2: late round stab, I would lean towards cheek being the second. Look. 201 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: If you guys are following the stream, or if you're 202 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: enjoying the stream, follow us so you don't miss any 203 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: of the other streams and Q and a's and things 204 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: like that that we have here on Twitch. And if 205 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: you want to support the channel, unlocking motes and watch 206 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: us ad free, consider subscribing. It helps keep these types 207 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: of streams and Q and a's going. We got a 208 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: question from jmac here Tara, where are you on Kyle Pitts? 209 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: For years? We held on to hope because of him 210 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: being a generationally gifted athlete at tight end, and kept 211 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 1: drafting him as a top five tight end even though 212 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 1: he kept letting us down. Now he's coming off a 213 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: year where we finally saw it and he was the 214 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: tight end two, and yet he is now tight end 215 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: seven in ECRs. So where do you stand currently on 216 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts. 217 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 2: I love that you asked this question, Jay, because this 218 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 2: is one of my one of my oddly enough favorite 219 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: things to talk about. I have not invested a ton 220 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 2: in the past and Kyle Pitts, so I missed all 221 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 2: that drama because I always thought he was overpriced. Now 222 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: we get the ADP a little bit back further and 223 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 2: he's actually my tight end six, which is not a 224 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 2: big discrepancy there, but oddly enough, for all the hate 225 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 2: in the world that I have for Kevin Stefanski and 226 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: the debacles in Cleveland, I trust him very much so 227 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 2: to target titands. Like all throughout his tenure in Cleveland, 228 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 2: it wasn't just with Harold Fann and Junior, it was 229 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: with anyone in everyone. You were seeing targets go to 230 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 2: tight ends at a thirty percent clip. There so I 231 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: have the utmost confidence that he will have one hundred 232 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 2: plus targets this year. Like that's a very strong baseline. 233 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 2: We have no strong secondary wide receiver the past catchers 234 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 2: or London, Beijon and Kyle Pitts from that perspective, so 235 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 2: I think we're going to see good volume, right and 236 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 2: you know, honestly to a tug of LOWO. Potentially we'll 237 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 2: see you know, right here at quarterback. Probably benefits Kyle 238 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 2: Pits a little bit more there because we kind of 239 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 2: saw that transition from Kyle Pitts later in the season 240 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 2: once we saw Kirk Cousins come in is a more 241 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 2: tight end friendly option. So I think TUA might actually 242 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 2: fit a little bit better for Kyle Pits compared to 243 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: Drake London, So I like him a lot. It gets 244 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 2: pushed further back because when we're looking at tight ends 245 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 2: as a whole, basically everyone with the exception of Tucker Craft, 246 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 2: who I do like, right, but it's just the lower 247 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 2: pass volume offense and they like to spread the ball around. 248 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 2: Every one of those guys has one hundred plus target upside. 249 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 2: So that's why I push back because we're kind of 250 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 2: deep at those higher end level tight ends. 251 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: Now, yeah, let me ask you, how do you tier 252 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: your tight ends? Because I'm looking currently and we have 253 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: the first tier is Bowers, McBride, Loveland Warren and the 254 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: next tier is Craft fannin pits. Do you break your 255 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: tears up differently? Because I do, But I would like 256 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 1: to hear yours first. 257 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I want to hear yours because mine's 258 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 2: slightly different, not dramatic, right, but I do think that 259 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 2: Rock Bowers and Trey McBride are at a one a 260 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 2: tier of their own. I like to separate them out 261 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: just because we know that there is a locked in, 262 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 2: guaranteed volume that those guys are getting on real there 263 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 2: we go. I know we have our offensive concerns for 264 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 2: Arizona in general, and how long Jacoby Brissette will be 265 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 2: allowed to start as they're going to be at a 266 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 2: tailspin downward. Thank you, like thank you, Jacoby, come out 267 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 2: there and do the right thing for us from a 268 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 2: fantasy perspective. But after those two, then for me, you know, 269 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 2: Colson Lovelin and Tyler Warren are the other guys that 270 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 2: I trust in that little mini tier. After that, and 271 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 2: then my tier two cuts off at I I have 272 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 2: it flipped Harold Fan and Junior and Kyle Pits. But 273 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 2: my tier two would cut off theoretically there at the 274 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 2: combination of Harold Fan and Junior and Coyle Pits. 275 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: So you'd have Laporta in the next one. Yeah, that's 276 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: that's pretty close to what I have. I've got Bowers 277 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: and McBride by themselves. I have Loveland in a tier 278 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: of his own, right. I just have quarterback concerns for 279 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: Tyler Warren. Then four, five, six, seven, I go Tucker Craft. 280 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: I just I think he'll be back for week one 281 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 1: and good, we'll see. You know, that's a little wish 282 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: casting on my part. I understand that. Then I have 283 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: Tyler Warren, Harold Fannon, and then Kyle Pitts, so I 284 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: do have Fannin and Pitts in the same order. But 285 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: I also push Laporta down. You know, he's played nine games. 286 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 1: Last year, we saw Jamison take off a little bit, 287 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: so it's a little bit of injury stuff, not really that. 288 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: The back injury is not one that you particularly like 289 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: for any player in the NFL, so that's a little scary, 290 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: but I don't it's not that it's more about Jamison 291 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: Williams and Amanra Saint Brown is gonna get his Gibbs 292 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: is gonna get his right, It's just where is he 293 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: in the pecking order? Is he still at that elite level? 294 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 2: Right? 295 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 1: So I'm yeah, that's interesting that we're pretty close there. 296 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: I like that. Let's see Enrica Enrico, what up? What 297 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: is your very early Rookie of the year prediction? So 298 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: if you had to pick a Rookie of the year, Tara, 299 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: where are you going there? 300 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 2: Yeah? I've done that recently. Actually, I think I'm taking 301 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 2: Colonel Tate there. I like the value on him. He's 302 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 2: third in odds, and basically when we're looking at Jeremiah Love, 303 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 2: he's in the Ashon genty situation right in terms of 304 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 2: uphill battle. From a team perspective, volume might be a 305 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: little bit inconsistent, so he kind of has that same 306 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 2: similar knock that could happen with him that Love got. 307 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 2: Then Fernanda Mendoza is at the whim of whether or 308 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 2: not he will get the opportunity to start early enough 309 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 2: to be able to be in contention for that, and 310 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 2: then Carnel Tate for me is interesting because while it's 311 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 2: not the ideal team situation. I think it's very similar 312 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 2: to Teto McMillan, and he can have the exact same 313 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 2: path to the same way McMillan did. So you come 314 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 2: in your wide receiver one and yeah, there's talent. There's 315 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 2: talent on the team. Obviously, Wandel Robinson there, garnering targets. 316 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 2: I love the young guys. Hopefully they get more opportunities 317 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 2: than Calvin Ridley and we just pushed that one out 318 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 2: of the way right. Let our young boys take over there. 319 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 2: But yeah, Kim Ward at the end of last season 320 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 2: and the back half look very impressive. In my opinion, 321 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 2: I'm going to see you. I want more volume, but 322 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 2: what I saw out of him in terms of command 323 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 2: of the offense, there's not going to be a massive leap, 324 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 2: but enough to get Carnel Tate into the same kind 325 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 2: of category as Ted Aroo McMillan. Yeah, that's my that's 326 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 2: my prediction there for him. 327 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: Looking at hard Rock, Carnel Tate is plus six hundred, 328 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: so that's paying you six to one, So I like 329 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: that pick. He's the third shortest odds. Jeremiah Love is 330 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: first of plus three fifty. I mean, just the guy 331 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: that you're going to have to give volume two. By 332 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: the way, poor Tyler oltch here, Yeah, poor poor Tyler Alchire. 333 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you sign a contract to go to the 334 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: Cardinals thinking you're gonna take this job over, like James 335 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: Connor is old, he's probably getting cut, and then Trey 336 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: Benson hasn't worked out, it's going to be my job, 337 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: and then they draft heir my Love and they restructure 338 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: James Connor to bring him back, and Trey Benson is 339 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: on this. How does one of these guys not get 340 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: traded or cut? Yea, I think Connaway get cut before 341 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: the year, but I think Carnel Tate's such a good 342 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: pick that's probably the right one. I also like Jenerium 343 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: price at plus eight hundred. You know sharbon A tearing 344 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: his knee so late into the season, and this is 345 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: writing notes for a Dynasty show. I'm gonna do with worm. 346 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: It's so funny because I have so many players that 347 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: I have a lower rank for in twenty twenty six, 348 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: so I'm lower than ECR is on them in twenty 349 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: twenty six, But in Dynasty, I have a higher ECR 350 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: than a lot of people, and sharbon A is one 351 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: of those guys. I don't think he comes back until Thanksgiving. 352 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: I think the earliest he could make it back is 353 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: probably Halloween. So if he is coming back between, let's 354 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: just call it the middle of November, right, so more 355 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: than halfway through the season. I think they're also, if 356 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: they're in a position for the playoffs at all, they're 357 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 1: probably going to baby him, right. I think Jenderian Price 358 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: is a way better running back than Emmanuel Wilson. I 359 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: think he's a way better running back than George Hallani. 360 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: And I think those guys are better than advertised for 361 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: most cases. But Jerim Price at plus eight hundred and 362 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: then a long long shot. Carson Beck might sort a 363 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: bunch of games for the Cardinals and they. 364 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 2: Do have. 365 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: I kind of hope he does plus three thousand. I 366 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: mean that's thirty to one. But look at it's not 367 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: so much about Carson Beck. But look at what Carson 368 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: Beck did with talent at Miami, right, Like, he took 369 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: them all the way to the National Title Game, and 370 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: it was just don't throw interceptions, don't make mistakes, don't 371 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: make those big boneheaded moves you're making at Georgia at Miami, 372 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: And that's what he did, and he got them all 373 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: the way to the Natty. Now, of course it ended 374 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: on a pick that he threw, but they were in 375 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: desperate mode at that point, so I don't necessarily blame 376 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: him for that. But you know, with Brissette holding out 377 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: and not being really happy, little floating bet on Carson 378 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: Beck at thirty to one is not bad. The rest 379 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: of these down here, Makaya Lemon is plus one thousand, 380 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: Jordan Tyson is plus six fifty, Mkaya Lemons plus one thousand, 381 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: and then there's a bunch more three thousands, Denzel Boston, 382 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: Casey Concepcion, and Omar Cooper all in the plus three thousand, 383 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: and in the five thousands we have Coleman, Singleton, Brassels, 384 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:26,479 Speaker 1: Sarat guys that aren't you know, that's almost lighting your 385 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: money on fire betting on those guys down there. So 386 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: let me ask you about the Browns wide receiver situation 387 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: here With the Browns, you know, obviously, and this is 388 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: what I think, This is probably why you have Pits 389 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: ahead of fannin correct, is because they drafted Concepcion, they 390 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: drafted Denzel Boston, and we don't know who the quarterback 391 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: is going to be as of right now, I assume 392 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: it's going to be Watson's to start, but I also 393 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: think Watson sucks at this point, so I think it's 394 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 1: gonna be Shador Sanders for probably twelve ten games, somewhere 395 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: in that neighbor How are you are you? Are you 396 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: drafting any of these targets, like, obviously not Fannin since 397 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: you have Pits ahead of him, you'd rather take Pits. 398 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: But what about Boston or Concepcion. Are you taking a 399 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: shot on those guys? Are you leaving the Cleveland situation 400 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 1: alone because it's the bad quarterback situation, bad offense situation. 401 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm I'm taking more Browns than I would like. No, 402 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm okay with it. Look, I'm all right 403 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 2: with it. And for what it's worth, I don't mind 404 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 2: tigging Harold fan and Junior. I think he's in that tier. 405 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 2: He's just you know, col Pits before him for me. 406 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 2: But the Adyps, because we are fully aware that this 407 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 2: is a sketchy situation, are perfectly fine for both Casey 408 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: Conceptsio and Denzel Boston. So I have at the end 409 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 2: of drafts, I am snatching one because there tends to 410 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 2: be a little gap, even though it doesn't really show 411 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 2: right in terms of ADP, there's not a giant gap 412 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 2: between CONCEPTSIO and Boston. But for some reason, like people are, 413 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 2: you know, willing to draft a little bit higher to 414 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 2: get CONCEPTSIO because of the potential, Like because when you 415 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 2: look at it realistically, here you want the one that 416 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 2: would potentially have the most volume and just in terms 417 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 2: of where he would play on the field, probably more 418 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 2: consistency in general volume compared to a Boston in terms 419 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 2: of where he would line up on the field. So 420 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 2: I get that for sure. So I've been taking more 421 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 2: Boston just because you can do it a little bit later. 422 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 2: But I think both are perfectly fine because at the 423 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 2: end of the day, one hundred percent, we know that 424 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 2: we have Harold Fanner Junior. And then from a receiver's perspective, 425 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 2: I do think we're going to end up seeing both 426 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:33,959 Speaker 2: of these guys push Jery Judy out of the way, 427 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 2: and he's still there. He's not going anywhere. He physically 428 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 2: can't go anywhere because of that contract. There's zero point, right, 429 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 2: but both of them can outplay him, right, and yes 430 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 2: they're rookies, but at the end of the day, both 431 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 2: of them can out play them. I'm hoping that we 432 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 2: get some kind of more competent quarterback play here because 433 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 2: of the fact that Todd Monkin is a quarterbacks guy, 434 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 2: so at the very least I know compared to Kevin 435 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 2: Stefanski that he can get the most out of these guys. 436 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 2: In general, what the most is from me, either to 437 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 2: Tom Watson or Shuder That is the mystery here. But 438 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 2: theoretically we should be fine here. And again, this is 439 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 2: still going to be a situation where I do think 440 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 2: they're going to lean on the run because the defense, 441 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,479 Speaker 2: even without Miles Garrett, is still going to be dr 442 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 2: versus perfectly. He's great, right, So this defense is still 443 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 2: going to be strong and keep games relatively close here, 444 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 2: so they'll there won't be giant runaways playing massively from 445 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 2: behind situations, is what I'm kind of thinking there. 446 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: Before we move on here, if you have players you want, 447 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: you need to know whether your league will let them fall. 448 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: With Draft Intel, you can see your league mates past 449 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: draft tendencies. There are spot who reaches on certain positions, 450 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: who reaches on certain positions, and know whether you can 451 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: wait or need to move early. Go to fantasypros dot 452 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: com slash intel, use draft Intel and build a draft 453 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: for your league today. That is Fantasypros dot com slash Intel. 454 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: Are you with this Brown Terra? Are you in or 455 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: out on Shador? Are you do you think he can 456 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: do something? Or do you think the Browns a gonna 457 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: be drafting a quarterback in this good class in twenty 458 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: twenty seven. 459 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 2: I think they're probably going to be drafting I'm trying 460 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 2: to hold faith in him, right, but at the end 461 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 2: of the day, we didn't know that generational wasn't probably 462 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 2: in the realm of outcomes here. So when that's the 463 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 2: case and you've got a team that is trying to 464 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,959 Speaker 2: move forward and make a dramatic shift and they know 465 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 2: that that's the key position, yeah, they're probably going to 466 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 2: take a stab at somebody else in the draft. 467 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: So Travis Hunter kind of brought up Shador's value you 468 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: think a little bit? 469 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, possibly there, And I still think that the draft 470 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 2: capital was it should have been more than what it was, right, 471 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 2: you know, shout out to Tyler Shuck for proven us 472 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 2: all wrong, well well. 473 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 1: For now right, yeah, yeah. 474 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 2: For proven us all wrong on that, but it should 475 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 2: have been it should have been higher. But at the 476 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,479 Speaker 2: end of the day, I mean, just because you are 477 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 2: a high end van. I mean, look at JJ McCarthy, right, 478 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 2: just because you were a high end pick, you could 479 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 2: be a top ten pick, a top fifteen pick doesn't 480 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 2: really matter if the team feels they have a better 481 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 2: opportunity to move on to literally anybody else, and even 482 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 2: a retread, you know, veteran quarterback, you know they will do. 483 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 2: So loyalty is not that deep. 484 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: Let's talk about Travis Hunter for a second here, and 485 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: let's just talk about the Jaguars offense overall. Now, I 486 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: have been avoiding the Jaguars like the plague unless your 487 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: name is Trevor Lawrence, right Like, in a super flex league, 488 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: I'll take Trevor Lawrence. But I don't like the running 489 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: back situation. Tara Tuton is not He's not my guy. 490 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: I don't know that he is a long term option 491 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: as a primary ball carrier. I think he's a nice 492 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: secondary guy and he'll be giving the chances here and 493 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: I expect him. I have more confidence in him than 494 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: Bill crossky Merritt, right, Like, I have way more confidence 495 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: than Tuton in that situation. But so the wide receiver 496 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 1: situation is weird because we watched them draft two major 497 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: tight ends with their very few picks in this draft. 498 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: They went out and got the blocker in Borkashire and 499 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,959 Speaker 1: they got a goal line guy in Tanner Kozyall, who 500 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: you know, could be playing basketball, six foot eight or 501 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: nine or whatever. He is. He's enormous h Town product. 502 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: So love Tanner cozy'all love watching him play. He's a 503 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: lot of fun. Slow, but like slow compared to other 504 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: tight ends, not slow for his size in frame, he 505 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: is fast, kind of like Darnett Washington, my guy Mount Washington. 506 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: But so it looks like they're gonna run thirteen personnel 507 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: more copycat league. The Rams ranted about thirty three percent 508 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 1: last season scored a ton of touchdowns out of thirteen personnel. 509 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: So I think we're going to see that Brian Thomas 510 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: Junior is expected to be the wide receiver in that 511 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: thirteen personnel, which hurts Jacoby Myers, which hurts Parker Washington, 512 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 1: who is a darling in the fantasy community and should be. 513 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: But is there going to be enough opportunity for Washington, 514 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: for Myners and even maybe BTJ And if so, what 515 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: is going on with Travis Hunter at all. He might 516 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: be the best receiver on this team, honestly, like he 517 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: might be, but we wouldn't know because he's gonna play 518 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: primary corner. So what are your thoughts on Jacksonville's offense overall? 519 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: Are you drafting them? Are you avoiding them? Is there 520 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: anybody you like here? 521 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's tackle the wide receivers first and then the 522 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 2: running backs wide receivers. Now the Titans things is very interesting, right, 523 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 2: but to what degree they will make that shift when 524 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 2: I don't feel like it was super broken last year 525 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 2: in terms of like when we saw the back half 526 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 2: of the season. Now, granted there were some easier games 527 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 2: in the back half of the season for the Jags, right, 528 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 2: but there were still some tougher matchups where they showed 529 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 2: extremely well, like against Timber Looking at the back half 530 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 2: of the season and the alignment that they had of 531 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 2: Myers and Brian tom Jenier on the outside with Parker 532 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,719 Speaker 2: Washington and the slot was really effective like over that 533 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 2: time period. And granted we had an uptick in a 534 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 2: rushing volume from Trevor Lawrence. He was QB one in 535 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 2: the back half of the season overall, so he was 536 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 2: fantastic so I don't know that there's so much broken 537 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 2: that they need to make major adjustments. But I feel 538 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 2: like the alignment is very straightforward when it comes to 539 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 2: those three receivers, right, And then perhaps we do see 540 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 2: a decreased in snap count in general if they're trying 541 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 2: to bring those Titans along more. But when I look 542 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 2: at it, I don't mind all of them right in 543 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 2: terms of at the very least we're all on the 544 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,959 Speaker 2: same page as the fact that these are all flex options, right. 545 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 2: These are not guys that you were drafting to be. 546 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 2: You're definitely not wide receiver one, not even your wide 547 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 2: receiver two. These are flex options that you're hoping will 548 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 2: have high upside with the potential bounce back there of 549 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 2: Brian Thomas Junior, which you know is very possible. But 550 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, the way that Lamb 551 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 2: Cohen was operating last season, you know that there's not 552 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 2: going to be one giant, massive target hawk in the 553 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 2: offense because he's shifting targets according to the defenses that 554 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 2: he's facing. So they're all viable at any given point 555 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 2: in time. I think it's worth it to take a stab. 556 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 2: I do personally like Parker Washington. The only caveat there 557 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 2: is that again we do have to Jacksonville is being 558 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 2: like so evasive in terms of confirming where this man 559 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 2: is going to play here. They were refusing to say 560 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: that it is going to be exclusively defense, right and 561 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 2: that we will get continue to see him on offense 562 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 2: because they made the investment for him to play both ways. 563 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 2: We'll see on that one, and obviously his presence would 564 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 2: specifically affect you know, Parker Washington the most there. So 565 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 2: that's kind of the one that I'm kind of keying 566 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 2: and on is that hopefully we see this shift more 567 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 2: on defense. But I still think he's going to be 568 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 2: involved in a gimmicky way. But my gut tells me 569 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 2: that again we're going to see more Parker Washington than 570 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 2: him on offense. 571 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: Now we should. I mean, you know, a four wide, 572 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: you get Travis Hunter out there, that's probably what it 573 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: is for now. Maybe injuries, if the corners are good 574 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: and some of the wide receivers go down, maybe he 575 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 1: gets more involved that way. I just always thought of 576 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: you know, con as the ECW guy, right, like the 577 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: guy that wants to sell jerseys. He wants a big name. 578 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: So I figured they would put him on offense, but 579 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 1: Liam Cohen has kind of made it, you know, be 580 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: a defensive guy, and he is probably he has the 581 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: chops to be one of the premier corners in the league. Right, 582 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 1: So that's hard to find. It's hard to draft, it's 583 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 1: hard to know. So I would I would probably do 584 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: the same if I was him, But I thought with 585 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: their owner that maybe he would be selling jerseys. What 586 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: about the running backs here? Do you like any of them? 587 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: Or are we avoiding these like the plague. 588 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: I am a baseial Tutan, I'm a bachil Tuton girl. 589 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 2: But I look at it from this perspective is that 590 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 2: I feel like the running back room is not super 591 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 2: confusing as to what everybody can do. Right. We know 592 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 2: Chris Rodriguez an early down and goal line guy. He 593 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 2: does not have the capabilities to be a three down back. 594 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 2: We know that Laquinn Allen Junior was definitely utilized from 595 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 2: a third down perspective. Good blocker if he could potentially 596 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 2: be the third down back for sure, but three down 597 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 2: back in that offense when we know that, you know 598 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 2: last year Bachiltuton had the preference on the ground over him. 599 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 2: We know that for sure right. So the question we 600 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 2: have is that are we going to get Bachel Tuton 601 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 2: bridging the gap here? Is he trusted enough on third 602 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 2: downs and from a receiving perspective to be able to 603 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 2: handle that. I kind of feel like the connection in 604 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 2: general of Chris Rodriguez to Liam Cohen in college is 605 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 2: kind of overblown a little bit. I feel like sometimes 606 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 2: we overblow these previous connections, right as if as if 607 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 2: Bachel Tuton wasn't the guy that he drafted last year somehow, right, Yeah, yeah, somehow, 608 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 2: somehow that college we arguably we don't even know if 609 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 2: the man recruited him for that, for that one single 610 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 2: year that we were together. Somehow that takes preference over 611 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 2: the guy that he drafted last year and showed an 612 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 2: odd amount of trust in. Because when you look at 613 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 2: the overall numbers, like Travis etn was the lead back, 614 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 2: but we had a lot of usage of Basil Tuton 615 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 2: in the red zone specifically and at the goal line. 616 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 2: The man had four touchdowns inside the five and two 617 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 2: on the ground and then two receiving touchdowns inside the five. 618 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 2: That's a lot of usage for a backup running back rookie. 619 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 2: So to say that yeah. For Chris Rodriguez was excellent 620 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 2: at the goal line last year. But to say that 621 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 2: there is this automatic situation of he's just there's no 622 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 2: way that Basil Tuton could take preference at the goal 623 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 2: line over him. I don't think that's the case here. 624 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 2: So there's a lot of ambiguity in it. But the 625 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 2: only one that could actually have three down back opportunity 626 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 2: in this offense would be Basil Tutans. So if you're 627 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 2: going to pick one head, your bets on that, right, 628 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 2: but recognize that you are taking a risk that he 629 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 2: could be element, which is fine, right, You're drafting him 630 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 2: as a RB three flex option. Don't invest in him 631 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 2: until we know for sure that he would be the starter. 632 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 2: Don't invest that like like I want him in my 633 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 2: starting lineup as my RB two or even my RB one. 634 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 2: Don't go zero RB with that until we get a guarantee. 635 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: Amen, Yeah, don't Yeah, yeah, Tootin is your flex option 636 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: or your first running back off the bench. He is 637 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: not a top two back, So I think that is 638 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: just important to state here. We got a question from 639 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: our friend O Van Rodd. Hey, Van Rod Van wants 640 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: to know rank these rbs in order of which you 641 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: draft them Hampton, Skataboo, Love and Travion Henderson. Do you 642 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: have your order on those backs? Quickly? 643 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 2: I do quickly. It is Hampton, Love, Skataboo in Henderson 644 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 2: with the caveat that nine times out of ten, I 645 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 2: am going to skip over Love and just draft Kataboo 646 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 2: on that one. 647 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: I was just saying quickly because I had my rody 648 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: go Henderson or excuse me Henderson Hampton for me. I 649 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: have Hampton at ten, I have Love at fourteen, then 650 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: I have Henderson at twenty, and I have Scataboo at 651 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: twenty three. So that is where I have them all, 652 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: you know, I mean Hampton's and RB one and the 653 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: other are RB two's. So I think that is the 654 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: important distinction to make from Van Rod's question here, how 655 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: high are you on Hampton? Is he? Is he an 656 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: RB one tou borderline? How confident are you and him 657 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: after you know, as a rookie missing a handful of 658 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: games here? 659 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel good about it. I won't hold the 660 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 2: injury against them. You need to give me repeated seasons 661 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 2: of injury issues for me to say hold up weight. 662 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 2: I think there's a problem we need to discount here 663 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 2: with early round running backs. The I mean, obviously Gibbs 664 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 2: and Bijon are there, you know, all separate little tier there, 665 00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 2: but everyone between JT and Christian McCaffrey and Derek Henry, 666 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 2: with Hampton being towards the end of that, I think 667 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 2: they're all viable options for you to grab as your 668 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 2: RB one and feel good about it. Right. You know, 669 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 2: last year there was obviously a little more Commodi Vidal 670 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 2: than we would have liked to see, right But at 671 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 2: the end of the day, the transformation that this offense 672 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 2: is going to have in terms of being healthier with 673 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 2: the offensive line, they made adjustments, not just the healthy 674 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 2: ones they're getting back, they made additions and adjustments as well. 675 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,959 Speaker 2: So we're going to see a much different, much more confident, 676 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 2: original offensive line that we thought we were getting at 677 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 2: the beginning of last season, and the change in offensive 678 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 2: scheme here going to probably provide more goal line opportunities 679 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 2: as well. The only concern I would have that kind 680 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 2: of pushes them back a little bit further is how 681 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 2: much passing work do we get shifted over to Kate 682 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 2: and Mitchell. But at the end of the day, like 683 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 2: I consider Hampton a general three down back there with 684 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 2: obviously some change of pace working in, so I do 685 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 2: trust him as a clear RB one. 686 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been talking about how I like Videll more 687 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: than I like Keaton Mitchell, but who cares well. Hampton 688 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: is the guy. Hampton is a three down back. He 689 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: is going to end up being one of those guys where, 690 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 1: you know, just like Christian McCaffrey and Gibbs an a 691 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 1: Chan and these dudes where you hear the coach say, yeah, 692 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: we probably need to take some carries away from him, 693 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: and then nothing happens. Because most NFL games are close, right, 694 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: most NFL games going in the fourth quarter within one score, 695 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: so uh, you know, you have to play your best 696 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: players in those scenarios, and o'murray and Hampton is way 697 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: better than Mitchell or Videll, way more complete. Back, we 698 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: did have another question, and by the way, we got 699 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: some new followers. J Mack, Thank you J Mack and 700 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: kJ also thank you kJ. But J Mack asked, how 701 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: many rbs are there this year that you would be 702 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: comfortable with as you're number one in a hero RB strategy. 703 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: What is your thought there, Tara? 704 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 2: Theoretically thirteen I say that with the caveat that I 705 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 2: am struggling to really trust take taking Christian McCaffrey just 706 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 2: because I do think that the odds are favoring him 707 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 2: not making it through the season. But at the end 708 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 2: of the day, he's a clear RB one. But for me, 709 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 2: it's you know, the jump down for me is obviously 710 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 2: the top guys, and then you know, it's Saquan Hampton Henry, 711 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 2: and then I include Josh Jacobs and someone that I 712 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 2: am trusting as my RB one and a hero strategy 713 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 2: just because obviously the legal issues and whatnot, but we've 714 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,919 Speaker 2: seen enough times that this close to the season, if 715 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 2: there is a legal issue, nine times out of ten, 716 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,879 Speaker 2: any potential suspension is going to get pushed to the 717 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 2: next season. So for twenty twenty six, because we haven't 718 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 2: had any you know, specific charges or anything like that, 719 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 2: like operate as though more than likely the man is 720 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 2: going to play the season here and if there were 721 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 2: no legal issues, he would be a top twelve back 722 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 2: for me. So I'm comfortable with all of those as 723 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,040 Speaker 2: my hero RB strategy and I prefer hero RB and 724 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 2: quite frankly, I mean this year, the level of depth 725 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 2: that we have at high end, elite options. The fact 726 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,399 Speaker 2: that you can turn around in like an early third 727 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,240 Speaker 2: round potentially get a Derek Henry is kind of crazy there. 728 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 2: So we're I think we're blessed in terms of operating 729 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 2: with a hero strategy this season. So I'm very comfortable 730 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,280 Speaker 2: down thirteen guys. 731 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: Really, yeah, it is. You know, there is more depth 732 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: to running back than there traditionally has been, and I 733 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: feel like next year we may hit a really nice 734 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: glut of it too, with some of the incoming RBS 735 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: potentially from the draft, So we are in a good spot. 736 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of moving and shaking in 737 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 1: the free agent market as well. Next year. It looks 738 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: like unless you know they're I think they're Chase Brown 739 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: and JT both haven't got extensions yet. I think they're 740 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: the two that we're waiting on. But yeah, there's gonna 741 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: be There's some nice RB depth this year, so I 742 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 1: like it as well. We got another question from JBO 743 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 1: which round should I be picking a QB and a 744 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 1: tight end? Do you have a strong feeling on where 745 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: you'd like to select GQB and tight end this year? 746 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 2: You know, if I'm if I'm picking a preference in 747 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 2: terms of, you know, because I don't like to go 748 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 2: both early on because I feel like that hamstrings too, 749 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,240 Speaker 2: especially because again we have a lot of question marks. 750 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 2: Once we get past like RB twenty or so, we 751 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 2: start looking a little shaky in terms of guys that 752 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 2: we can trust and you know, wide receivers. Obviously we've 753 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 2: got some you know, a good depth, but there again 754 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 2: or some question marks. I don't like to hamstering myself 755 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 2: in terms of taking two quarter quarterback and a tight end. 756 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 2: I want to pick and choose one versus the other. 757 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 2: So if I'm going to take an early round option 758 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 2: or a mid round option, my choice is going to 759 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 2: be tight end. We talked about the tight end tiers, 760 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 2: like you know, cutting off and saying like hey, Kyle 761 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 2: Pitts and on up right there with those seven we 762 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 2: feel good about them, and just taking whichever one ends 763 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 2: up being the best value for you. Maybe you try 764 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 2: and push it back a little and get a little 765 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 2: bit risky pushing towards the back of the tier. But really, 766 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,760 Speaker 2: for me, that is kind of more of my comfort 767 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 2: area in terms of saying okay, like by round seven 768 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 2: or so, maybe taking a tight end makes a lot 769 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 2: of sense there, and then I'm pushing quarterback back, to 770 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 2: be honest, because I don't think it's one hundred percent 771 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 2: necessary with the level of depth. And also that's another 772 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 2: one in particular, just in general, which strategy with quarterback. 773 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 2: I do tend to play it more according to the 774 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,959 Speaker 2: way that my league is drafting. Right, If you have 775 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 2: your league mates are all leaning in and taking quarterbacks 776 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 2: pretty quickly, and you see a quarterback running going on 777 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 2: pretty quickly, and you're like, there goes Lamar, there goes 778 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 2: Drake May, there goes Jane Daniels. Right, you're seeing that rapid. 779 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 2: Maybe you play like a little ying to the yang 780 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 2: there and you don't jump on the end of a 781 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 2: quarterback run, and you push it back a little bit 782 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 2: to try and invest in those other positions and get 783 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,919 Speaker 2: the edge there. So I'm okay with pushing quarterback back 784 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 2: to the double digit rounds this year because we've got 785 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 2: the ability right to make it push back a little 786 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 2: bit further with saying like, hey, there are guys like 787 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes. If you're okay with risking the injuries Matt Stafford, right, 788 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 2: that pushes it back a little bit further. 789 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: If you want to go back them together. 790 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, take them together, right, you can pare them up. 791 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 2: Derek Goff has a lot of nice dome games towards 792 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 2: the back half of the season as well. So there's 793 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,800 Speaker 2: a lot of flexibility in terms of a lot of 794 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 2: high upside, stable quarterback options. So invest in a lot 795 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,720 Speaker 2: of the elite talent earlier and then I'm pushing quarterback 796 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,240 Speaker 2: back to double digit rounds. Now, if everyone is pushing 797 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 2: it back and you see an opportunity to jump in 798 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 2: and grab Justin Herbert at value right, by all means, 799 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,359 Speaker 2: go ahead and do it. Just offer yourself that flexibility. 800 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I couldn't agree more. You know, it 801 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,399 Speaker 1: is tight end with a bullet for me if it's 802 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,760 Speaker 1: one QB league obviously, but you know, I love getting 803 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: a high end quarterback if I can. They're very dependable. 804 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,439 Speaker 1: They give you a nice bump from week to week. 805 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 1: But like Tac Prescott, Jackson Dart, there's so much up. 806 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: We talked about Trevor Lawrence, you know what I mean. 807 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 1: These are guys going nine to ten to eleven, you 808 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 1: know at quarterback and tight end. Like you said, we 809 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,919 Speaker 1: were talking about the positions, the drop off is real 810 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 1: at tight end, probably after Sam Laporta, right like, and 811 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: don't we don't particularly trust Sam Laporta as much as 812 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 1: other people do, so for us, it's like seven tight ends, 813 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: which is still you can get a good one kind 814 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: of cheap, but that back end the bottom falls out 815 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 1: because we like Sam Laporta. But there's questions. Mark Andrews 816 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: had a down year, but no likely also likely going 817 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 1: to the Giants. Who's the number two in New York? 818 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: Right like, there's a big question there. There's an upside there, 819 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 1: and then the old guys Kittle's coming off of major 820 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 1: injury in his achilles. Kelsey is gonna you know, have 821 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 1: gimpy mahomes for a little bit at least probably, and 822 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,880 Speaker 1: then it's it's Chicka cong Wo good enough to be 823 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 1: a number two? Is dalon kin k are gonna get 824 00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 1: more than fifty percent of the snaps in any damn 825 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 1: games this year? You know, Jake Ferguson is now way 826 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: buried in the pecking order because Javonte was good because 827 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 1: pickings surged, and Ceedee Lamb is gonna be healthy this year. 828 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 1: So to me, it's easy tight end over quarterback. Jabo 829 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,760 Speaker 1: also asks I want two wide receivers, two running backs 830 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 1: by four rounds. What should I aim four round five 831 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: and six? What are your thoughts there, Tara? 832 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,320 Speaker 2: It depends because round five or six you could still 833 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 2: have one of those top twenty backs in there. It's 834 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 2: possible at round five or so you could get around 835 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,840 Speaker 2: the tight end twenty to twenty two range, so you 836 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 2: could possibly go ahead and take a third. I'm not 837 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 2: a post to that, but I would also be okay 838 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 2: with again, like we were saying, going tighten, seeing what 839 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 2: you have there, if you can get one of those 840 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,359 Speaker 2: top seven options, or seeing what value you have at 841 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 2: wide receiver. Wide receiver is really the one that's a 842 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 2: little bit flexible there, because it just depends on if 843 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 2: you have a guy in that range that gives you 844 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 2: a high end option and also your league signings. Right, 845 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 2: you know how many starting wide receivers are there, how 846 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 2: many flex options there are. If you're in one of 847 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 2: those leagues where you have two flex options, maybe you 848 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 2: go wide receiver there and try and. 849 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 1: Stack up on that, especially if it's PPR. Yeah, I'm 850 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 1: with you, and you know you just see see if 851 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 1: one of those quarterbacks fell, see if one of those 852 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 1: tight ends felt so it's just a deal, you know 853 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 1: what I mean. If that's the case, then maybe I 854 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,320 Speaker 1: pivot there. But yeah, it's adding depth for the most part. 855 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:29,839 Speaker 1: Before we move on here, let me tell you guys 856 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,840 Speaker 1: about the Fantasy Pros discord community. You can chat with 857 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,439 Speaker 1: other fans and get access to exclusive amas that wind 858 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 1: up on our podcast feed. The current schedule is worman 859 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 1: fits at five Eastern on the first Tuesday of every 860 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 1: month and myself in fitsy at five eastern on the 861 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 1: third Tuesday of every month. Come get your questions answered 862 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:51,359 Speaker 1: and be on this show at fantasypros dot com slash Chat. 863 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,240 Speaker 1: We have a lot of fun in those discords fifty 864 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:55,919 Speaker 1: and I did one just a couple of days ago. 865 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,760 Speaker 1: They are a lot of fun. We get to answer 866 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 1: a lot of good questions Dynasty. I think those are 867 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 1: both Dynasty streams as well, so a lot of Dynasty 868 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,360 Speaker 1: questions getting answered over there. I want to pick your 869 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:11,280 Speaker 1: brain on a couple other scenarios here, Tara, the running 870 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 1: back in Pittsburgh. Do you have a preference are you avoiding? 871 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:15,879 Speaker 1: Which way are you going there? 872 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 2: The way that I think it's going to work out 873 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 2: theoretically is that I think we're going to one thing. 874 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,840 Speaker 2: So one caveat here is that we do need to 875 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 2: recognize that the receptions to the running back are probably 876 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 2: going to come down. That was the result of Aaron 877 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 2: Rodgers checking down because he hated every receiver not named 878 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 2: DK metcalf right because they were reliable. If you if 879 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 2: you burn him, he's not going to throw to you. 880 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 2: With Michael Pittman added, there' heey so many positive things 881 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 2: about Jeremy Bernard as well. I think we're going to 882 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 2: see more of those perceptions go to those guys over 883 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 2: the middle, right, So just keep that in mind that 884 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 2: if we're thinking that the way that this is going 885 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,280 Speaker 2: to work out would be Reco Daltal with the early 886 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 2: down and goal line work and then Jalen Mourim with 887 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,359 Speaker 2: a third down in receptions, just recognize those receptions are 888 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,799 Speaker 2: probably going to come down a little bit. So, as 889 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 2: of right now, if we I think it'll work out 890 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 2: with Rico being the early down back and so that 891 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 2: would be my lead on that one, but again we 892 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 2: just got to double check on that one. So as 893 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,760 Speaker 2: of right now, I do think it'll end up being Rico, 894 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 2: but training camp is going to be the whole flexible situation. 895 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 1: Right, sounds like you're not drafting either. 896 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 2: No, I haven't taken a single one. 897 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,359 Speaker 1: You know what if you can't, if you don't know, 898 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 1: I don't hate that as a strategy, though, Just let 899 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 1: it be somebody else's issue. I'm a Steelers fan. I'm 900 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 1: in on Jalen Warren. I feel like every time we 901 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 1: doubt Jalen Warren, he wins this job. Right. He pushed 902 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,560 Speaker 1: Nause out. They're bringing Caleb Johnson to push him out. Nope, 903 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 1: Kenneth Gainwell had more traction than Caleb Johnson. So I 904 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,880 Speaker 1: just I think it is probably Jalen Warren and just 905 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:56,840 Speaker 1: all the efficiency metrics. I don't know whether you consider 906 00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 1: is the Steelers offense from twenty twenty five better than 907 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 1: the Panthers from tony twenty five? They're probably Spider Man 908 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 1: meme winning at each other a little bit, you know, 909 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 1: But so everything except for Rushes inside the five, I 910 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,399 Speaker 1: think Jalen had Rico slightly. They were both pretty good though, 911 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 1: but it's like the really good stuff in the past 912 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:20,759 Speaker 1: catching that Rico had Warren was better, it was, So 913 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think you're right, it's probably best 914 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 1: to leave it to somebody else. But if I have 915 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 1: to pick one, I probably go in Jalen Warren, which 916 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,319 Speaker 1: means you know it'll be Kayley Johnson this year out 917 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 1: of nowhere from the top rope. But I do agree 918 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 1: with you, this offense is going to be way more vertical, 919 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 1: way more down the field with these better options in 920 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 1: the receiving game. Here and Rico's got another one for 921 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 1: us here in a half PPR super flex league. How 922 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,840 Speaker 1: much weight should one put into a quarterback wide receiver 923 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 1: stack and how far would you reach to draft aj 924 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:52,840 Speaker 1: if May is your QB. 925 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 2: Don't force it, don't force it to happen. But I 926 00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 2: do like a stack. I enjoy it, especially like especially 927 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 2: tournament setting. Like I just like I cannot ignore that, 928 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 2: but if you have the ability to do it, and 929 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 2: there are certain ones that you can, because I think 930 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:12,480 Speaker 2: I've had someone I answered this in another situation that 931 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 2: AJ Brown and Drake maystack is it's doable, right, And 932 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 2: I think we're gonna be a good discount on AJ Brown. 933 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 2: And we should see an increase in pass volume as well, 934 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 2: because there's a there's a better ceiling there for Drake 935 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,879 Speaker 2: May in terms of volume. They were operating off efficiency. 936 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:32,359 Speaker 2: Pass attempts weren't extremely high, so more difficult schedule more 937 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 2: pass attempts. Yeah, I can see where this can work out, 938 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 2: so in superflex, if you have the ability to do it, 939 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 2: I do think it gives you just a little baked 940 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 2: in advantage if it goes your right way, little little 941 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 2: cheat code there, but don't don't force it in overdraft, right. 942 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 1: I agree. I think that the stack is a little 943 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 1: bit overrated unless it's you know, like you said, a 944 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 1: DFS thing like I feel like one offense exploding and 945 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:01,439 Speaker 1: somebody picking all those offensive players is like the millimakers 946 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,719 Speaker 1: is how a lot of those are made. But it 947 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 1: doesn't work over a season, and you are adding two 948 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,640 Speaker 1: of your best players to one by week as well. 949 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 1: So I do think it's a little overrated, but I 950 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 1: think it's super flex. It's a nice strategy, you know, 951 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 1: to get, but it has to be top tier, right, 952 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 1: and they have to be both really good, like if 953 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 1: you're getting Dak and Pickens or Lamb or May and 954 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 1: a J. Brown, you know you know what I mean 955 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 1: something like that. 956 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:29,640 Speaker 2: I will say, though, the cheap stacks are interesting as well, 957 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 2: like your QB two if you're pushing that one back 958 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,440 Speaker 2: and you can nail a QB two with a cheaper 959 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 2: wide receiver and that ends up working out. It's very interesting. 960 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 2: So I don't mind because those aren't hard. 961 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,799 Speaker 1: To do, like Stroud Higgins, Yeah something like that. 962 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's not a difficult thing to do in 963 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 2: terms of parents. 964 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 1: Easier to replace on bye week two because that wide 965 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,440 Speaker 1: receiver is usually a maybe start. You know, maybe I 966 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,399 Speaker 1: flex this guy if it's a good option. So yeah, 967 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 1: I agree with you there. Absolutely. We got another one 968 00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,800 Speaker 1: from Jbo as well. Should I be trying to draft 969 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 1: depth for tight ends in QB's or strictly wide receiver 970 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 1: in RB? I mean, person, I'll throw this out, Tara. 971 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 1: I don't want unless I take a quarterback like Mahomes, 972 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,719 Speaker 1: who I don't know if he's gonna play early or 973 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 1: be effective if he does play early. If it's something 974 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 1: like that, I'll take a backup quarterback in a one 975 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:26,120 Speaker 1: QB league. I'm almost never taking a secondary tight end. 976 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,879 Speaker 1: The only way is again, if I take Kittle right 977 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,480 Speaker 1: and my bench needs to be deeper for me to 978 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,760 Speaker 1: want a backup tight end because I really hate carrying 979 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,919 Speaker 1: two tight ends. I'd rather take give me a handcuff, right, 980 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,840 Speaker 1: if I have Ashton Genty, would I rather have a 981 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 1: backup tight end or would I rather have Mike Washington. 982 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,399 Speaker 1: I would every time rather have Mike Washington in case 983 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,799 Speaker 1: something happens to gent and I know they're gonna give 984 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,360 Speaker 1: Mike Washington the ball. So the tight ends on the 985 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:58,240 Speaker 1: wire and a twelve man league are usually fairly interchangeable 986 00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,920 Speaker 1: with each other. So with your guy on the bench 987 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,840 Speaker 1: that is not starting. So I think in most cases 988 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,240 Speaker 1: I just want to stick to the wide receiver and rbs. 989 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,720 Speaker 1: But there are some scenarios where you want to add depth, 990 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,360 Speaker 1: but that's if you take a risk at those positions. 991 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:13,560 Speaker 1: Do you agree with me, Tara. 992 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, the bench has to be deep for me to 993 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,840 Speaker 2: carry back ups that those otherwise I am foregoing it 994 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:20,880 Speaker 2: just in general, because you also got to think, like, 995 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:25,040 Speaker 2: even if your league is everybody's drafting two quarterbacks, odds 996 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,120 Speaker 2: of them holding on to both of those quarterbacks through 997 00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 2: like week five, Someone's going to get dropped, right, So 998 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, you probably if you 999 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,960 Speaker 2: need to start prepping for your bye week, there's going 1000 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,359 Speaker 2: to end up being someone on waivers for you. So 1001 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 2: I try my hardest not to especially if I have 1002 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,440 Speaker 2: an elite option. If for some reason I'm drafting at 1003 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 2: brock Bowers, I'm not going to back it up with 1004 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,399 Speaker 2: a secondary option at tight end. 1005 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,440 Speaker 1: So before we go here, Tara, are there any other 1006 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:57,440 Speaker 1: situations that you are like really micro focusing on in 1007 00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 1: training camp or anything that you want to see how 1008 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,640 Speaker 1: the dust settles on, in particular. 1009 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:07,800 Speaker 2: San Francisco backup running backs. Yeah. 1010 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,799 Speaker 1: I like Jordan James more than I like Kaylen. 1011 00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:13,040 Speaker 2: Black because I you know, at the end it because again, 1012 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 2: I just like guys. And if you want to draft 1013 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,600 Speaker 2: christ McCaffrey, you know, one hundred percent, go ahead and 1014 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,560 Speaker 2: do it. The upside is stupid high, right, But we've 1015 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,919 Speaker 2: seen him play, you know, We've seen him have two 1016 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,640 Speaker 2: overall RB one seasons where he had an uptick an 1017 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,960 Speaker 2: egregious amount of touches. Each one he came back and 1018 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,000 Speaker 2: didn't even make it a quarter the way through the season. 1019 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,600 Speaker 2: So historical odds are not favoring him on this one. 1020 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,600 Speaker 2: So if you're drafting him, you want to grab the 1021 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,160 Speaker 2: handcuff here, and we need to have training camp to 1022 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,000 Speaker 2: identify it because it's looking like Jordan James but they 1023 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 2: just spent that draft capital on Kaylon Black, so figuring 1024 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,880 Speaker 2: out which one it's going to be. If you're drafting him, 1025 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 2: it's going to give you a little bit advantage of that, 1026 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 2: and so is a late round dart throw as well 1027 00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,080 Speaker 2: if you're not drafting Christian McCaffrey, Because if something does 1028 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,879 Speaker 2: happen and one of those guys stumbles into the situation. 1029 00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 1: Offense they are, it'll be good. I think if CMC 1030 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,640 Speaker 1: gets hurt, it's going to be an ugly split between 1031 00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:08,320 Speaker 1: those two and probably somebody else that they sign. Yeah, 1032 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,719 Speaker 1: but it would be nice to have a handcuff to know. 1033 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,879 Speaker 1: I'm watching Denver real close there. Do you have any 1034 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 1: opinion on the Denver backfield at all? 1035 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:21,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I've come as I've heard more arguments 1036 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 2: from a lot of my fellow analysts here in terms of, 1037 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,239 Speaker 2: you know, saying that the discount is good enough to 1038 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,960 Speaker 2: draft RJ. Harvey, and I can see that, but I 1039 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:34,359 Speaker 2: wouldn't rely on him to be a starter because that's 1040 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 2: my preference there because the issue that I have is 1041 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 2: that we know that JK. Dobbins is going to get 1042 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,319 Speaker 2: the early down and goal line work. We know the 1043 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,279 Speaker 2: role in terms of receiving and a little bit on 1044 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:44,960 Speaker 2: the ground that R. J. Harvey is going to have, 1045 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:46,839 Speaker 2: and then the red zone usage was good for him 1046 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,919 Speaker 2: as well last year. My problem here is that last 1047 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,560 Speaker 2: year I was okay with Harvey because hey, we're inevitably 1048 00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,000 Speaker 2: waiting for this injury that we know was going to 1049 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:55,840 Speaker 2: happen and then he's going to take over as a 1050 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,719 Speaker 2: three down back. But Joana Coleman being there is a 1051 00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:00,520 Speaker 2: wee bit of an issue if he can step in 1052 00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,239 Speaker 2: and just be the JK. Dobbins are possibly better than 1053 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,480 Speaker 2: the JK. Dobbins, So I do have fear. I know, 1054 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:10,759 Speaker 2: a you know later ish round rookie being drafted into 1055 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,960 Speaker 2: a situation should not make you panic about a guy 1056 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:14,920 Speaker 2: that you saw be successful last year. But at the 1057 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,120 Speaker 2: end of the day, Harvey was very inefficient on the 1058 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,560 Speaker 2: ground and JK. Dobbins was factually better on the ground. 1059 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,560 Speaker 2: Apples to apples like a direct comparison there, So it's 1060 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:25,520 Speaker 2: tough to ignore that. 1061 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that is I feel like that is going 1062 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:33,160 Speaker 1: to be an ever changing landscape. I feel like it's 1063 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,319 Speaker 1: it should start with Dobbins. I think Harvey is better 1064 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 1: than Dobbins, So he'll take over. And then is Harvey 1065 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,320 Speaker 1: good enough to hold off Coleman? Is Coleman good enough 1066 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 1: to push Harvey? Those are the questions I think we'll 1067 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,760 Speaker 1: get some answered in camp, not all the way. Of course. 1068 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,120 Speaker 1: We got one more from Jabo before we leave. Is 1069 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,120 Speaker 1: there any importance to trying to get a good kicker 1070 00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:56,400 Speaker 1: or defense. 1071 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:03,360 Speaker 2: I would say a set it and forget it defense 1072 00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,839 Speaker 2: can be very relaxing in terms of you focusing your 1073 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,120 Speaker 2: waiver priorities on the higher ticket items. I don't mind 1074 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:14,400 Speaker 2: streaming either. It's not an issue, right, but I would 1075 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:18,799 Speaker 2: not forego if you've got certain like make your list 1076 00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,960 Speaker 2: of late round targets right of offensive positions that you 1077 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,480 Speaker 2: would you know, really like to have that you believe in. 1078 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,279 Speaker 2: These are guys that could have league winning upside if 1079 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:29,680 Speaker 2: I make the right pick at the end of the 1080 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 2: draft right and prioritize, you know, getting those ahead of time, 1081 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,239 Speaker 2: and then go ahead and say, all right, let me 1082 00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,680 Speaker 2: go ahead and get my defense or my kicker and whatnot. 1083 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,080 Speaker 2: But I don't know that there's a massive advantage. It 1084 00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,000 Speaker 2: does make things easier when you have a set it 1085 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,880 Speaker 2: and forget it, but I don't think it's worth going 1086 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,480 Speaker 2: up several rounds early in order to get that. 1087 00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like j Max says, just get your lead 1088 00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,359 Speaker 1: to drop kickers and defense and that extra flex, right, 1089 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,840 Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. I'm also the IDP guy. I 1090 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,480 Speaker 1: hate team defense because your team defense is only as 1091 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,640 Speaker 1: good as the weakest link there. So I'm with you there, 1092 00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,640 Speaker 1: and Van Rod dropped one more for us, A Chan 1093 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,080 Speaker 1: or Chase Brown. Where who are you more in on there? 1094 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,680 Speaker 2: Depends on your risk tolerance. I my preference is Chase 1095 00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,520 Speaker 2: for sorry, my preference is h in. I'm drafting Chan 1096 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,040 Speaker 2: over Chase Brown. But if you want the safer pick 1097 00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,640 Speaker 2: and you don't want to stomach it, then you know, say, 1098 00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,200 Speaker 2: Chase Brown is extremely safe. But a Chan has that 1099 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,360 Speaker 2: legitimate top five upside that Brown doesn't have because he 1100 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,640 Speaker 2: plays with with the jamar. Chase and T. 1101 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,520 Speaker 1: Higgins agreed on I have a Chan at six, I 1102 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,960 Speaker 1: have Brown at eight, so I have gent wedgeting between them. 1103 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,960 Speaker 1: So yes, I'm an a Chan guy as well. 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