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Speaker 1: Okay, So now that Barack Obama is back and we

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Speaker 2: First.

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Speaker 1: Barack Obama, specifically, he is the only president, from all

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Speaker 1: my reading, in the history of the United States of America,

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Speaker 1: the only one we've ever had who genuinely hates the country.

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Speaker 1: May had done some selfish things, some bad things, but

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Speaker 1: they didn't hate the place. Barack Obama did. I'll tell

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Speaker 1: he was raised. Those were the influences in his life. Now,

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Speaker 2: He's good at it.

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Speaker 1: He's really really good at politics. It's not just that

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Speaker 1: Not many were as trained and capable as Barack Obama was.

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Speaker 1: He was so good at subversively destroying this place and

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Speaker 1: He was just really really good at that kind of deception. Now,

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Speaker 1: There's another thing about communists that you have to understand.

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Speaker 1: It's just the way they think. It's not how you think.

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Speaker 1: Everything to be truly good has to work exclusively for

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Speaker 1: That person ran for office to do what communists always do,

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Speaker 1: The only two things a communist does with power, and

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Speaker 1: Obama a hypocrite when he accuses us of doing that?

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Speaker 1: Have to understand in his mind he is not when

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Speaker 1: He wasn't being hypocritical when he talked about the courts.

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Speaker 4: You know, we don't want, you know, kangaroo courts and

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Speaker 1: Of course, you can scream and yell that wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: It was Barack Obama's he's the one who did all that.

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Speaker 1: But for communists, that's what you're supposed to do. The

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Speaker 1: All these federal employees, all these bureaucrats with all this power,

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Speaker 2: They can destroy your life.

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Speaker 1: So what was the thinking when the communists started installing

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Speaker 1: Then they basically put it up for the vote, and

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Speaker 2: You are not left out hanging.

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Speaker 1: You still have all these subversive revolutionaries inside the government.

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Speaker 2: Barack Obama was calling to them yesterday.

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Speaker 4: maybe we'll lose some business for that, but that's what

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Speaker 4: we believe, that's what's needed. If you're a university president, say, well,

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Speaker 1: You hear what you're saying. You basically laid out exactly

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Speaker 2: How they may just be lost. That we have to.

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Speaker 1: Acknowledge something before we go into this, before we go

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Speaker 2: Just before we talk about anything else.

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Speaker 1: Just wrap your mind around that Ice is going in there,

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Speaker 6: These people should recognize that maybe they're not going to

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Speaker 1: We'll discuss that. Before we get Senator Ron Johnson. I

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Speaker 2: We'll be back.

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Speaker 7: The people on my special council team were like that,

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Speaker 7: Or who got chosen is ludicrous and andre you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the politics didn't play a role. I'm sure Senator

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Speaker 3: Well, again, I think they wanted to criminalize what happened

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Speaker 2: According to just the News.

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Speaker 1: The Congressional investigators collected thirty million lines of phone data

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Speaker 3: But again, they're just being arrogant and confident, and they're

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Speaker 3: digging their heels in.

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Speaker 1: Where are we at as far as our resolve goes.

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Speaker 1: I know there's been a couple of flimsy senators on

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Speaker 1: our side as per usual, But are we going.

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Speaker 2: To get caving and giving in on our side?

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Speaker 1: Because if not, I mean to hear you say, it

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Speaker 1: sounds like this thing is gonna go on a while.

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Speaker 2: That's what you said in the beginning. Anyway, I don't

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Speaker 2: believe so.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we just came from lunch. You know. We

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Speaker 3: do have things in place. I mean, I've offered the

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Speaker 3: Elinate Shutdowns Act, which would delineate shutdowns for all time.

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Speaker 3: I'd love to see that pass. I've got to Shutdowns

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Speaker 3: Fairness Act, which would just pay anybody work for us

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Speaker 3: need to work. That's only fair. Nobody really wants to

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Speaker 3: bring that up right now because they don't want to

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Speaker 3: be the first one to blink. So that's fine. So again,

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Speaker 3: I was really harden to see a majority leader Scalise

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Speaker 3: come out strongly against extending those enhanced premiums. Sure sounds

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Speaker 3: like Leader Thun gave a real good argument and why

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Speaker 3: that shouldn't happen, so at least from a Lasia standpoint,

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Speaker 3: unless President Trump indicates otherwise, our leadership is just saying no,

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Speaker 3: we will pay the troops just past the clean cr

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Speaker 3: and that's pretty much our position. I don't have a

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Speaker 3: problem with that. It seems like a pretty solid position

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Speaker 3: to me.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we've dumped four thousand government workers. That's I mean,

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Speaker 1: a very very small start. Is this going to continue?

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Speaker 1: I know the threats have been coming from the White

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Speaker 1: House say we're going to we're going to fire more,

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Speaker 1: We're going to fire more.

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Speaker 2: But we haven't seen mass spirings yet. Is that going

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Speaker 2: to start?

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Speaker 3: Well, that'll be up to russ vote and President Trump.

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Speaker 3: From my standpoint to the primary problem in this country

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Speaker 3: literally is the size, scope and cost of government. So

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Speaker 3: anything we can do to reduce the size, scope, cost

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Speaker 3: of government and it's influence in our lives. As government grows,

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Speaker 3: our freedoms necessarily recede. I don't see too many things

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Speaker 3: of government solving other than it's just exacerbates the problems.

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Speaker 3: It's further mortgage on kid's future. So I am all

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Speaker 3: for anything that would again shrink the size, scope and

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Speaker 3: cost of government.

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Speaker 1: An inconvenient study Tracy Ben's ca him on our show

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago and was talking about an

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Speaker 1: inconvenient study, and it was the stuff I'd never heard

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Speaker 1: before in my life.

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Speaker 2: You've you've watched this, What do you think?

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Speaker 3: I think it's an excellent job. Del Batree really lays

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Speaker 3: out the case. It's again, like Vaxed, it's a difficult

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Speaker 3: movie to watch, quite honestly, particularly early on when they

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Speaker 3: were going through these examples of parents. I mean, what

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Speaker 3: one set of parents had triplets, three beautiful little babies,

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Speaker 3: I think, two boys and one girl, and they got

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Speaker 3: them all vaxed the same day, and they lost them

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Speaker 3: pretty much the same day. They stopped talking, they started helping.

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Speaker 3: Now they have a six year old, their six year

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Speaker 3: old dollar you're talking about stealing diapers, not potty training.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just it's horrific to hear these stories

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Speaker 3: and the fact that the legacy media, the medical establishment

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Speaker 3: I've fed at health agencies haven't listened to the parents

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Speaker 3: who now for decades have been saying that my child

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Speaker 3: was normal until they got a vaccine. I lost my child.

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Speaker 3: That's what That's what doctor Andrew Wakefield. That's all he

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Speaker 3: did back in the early nineteen hundreds, I think it

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Speaker 3: was nineteen ninety or whatever, when he just was listening

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Speaker 3: to parents, did a study. Never said that MMMR caused autism.

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Speaker 3: We said, we ought to look at it, and they

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Speaker 3: had to destroy him for just basically listening to parents.

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Speaker 3: And we've been ignoring parents ever since. It's time for

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Speaker 3: that to end. So this is an excellent documentary.

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Speaker 2: I urge all of.

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Speaker 3: Your listeners to watch an inconvenient study.

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Speaker 1: It's quite an endorsement. Thank you, Senator, I appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: Is Tiss James going to prison? What happened in the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court today?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna ask Bill Jacobson about that. In a moment

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Speaker 1: before we talked to Bill, I want to talk to

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Speaker 1: you about something that's.

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Speaker 2: It means a lot to me. It's near and dear

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Speaker 2: to my heart. Chips. I'm a chip man.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you've been watching I'm right for any

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Speaker 1: length of time, you understand that I'm a chip man.

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Speaker 1: When I snack, it's chip. If I go to the pantry.

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Speaker 1: I'm in a kind of a snacky mood. I'm immediately

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Speaker 1: hunting what kind of chips? Now that's generally bad, because

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Speaker 1: chips today, what you're buying the grocery store, at the

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Speaker 1: gas station.

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Speaker 2: Those are terrible for you.

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Speaker 1: But now I can do it guilt free because we

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Speaker 1: have massive chips stacked up in our pantry. Just three ingredients,

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Speaker 1: none of this ugliness, just three ingredients. None of this

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Speaker 1: cancer causing filth, none of this stuff that makes you

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Speaker 1: feel bloated and disgusting, Just good quality ingredients you can

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Speaker 1: eat guilt free. Massachips dot com, slash JESSETV.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back.

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Speaker 1: Well at the Supreme Courts meeting. And that's actually been

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Speaker 1: going pretty well for us lately, so I don't cringe

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Speaker 1: and WinCE when I say that. But there were oral

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Speaker 1: arguments today, all kinds of things going on, and so

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Speaker 1: we probably probably should bring in the professor to make

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Speaker 1: us smarter about the whole thing. Joining me now, Bill

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Speaker 1: Jacobs and Cornell University Law founder of the Wonderful Legal Insurrection. Okay, Bill,

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Speaker 1: what's this Louisiana case all about?

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Speaker 9: Well, Louisiana has to do with whether the courts and

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Speaker 9: legislatures need to create majority minority districts in congressional redistricting.

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Speaker 9: And essentially it means, do you have to create districts

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Speaker 9: that preserve a certain number of majority black voters that

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Speaker 9: are likely to empower and elect blacks. And believe it

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Speaker 9: or not, that actually has been the law under the

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Speaker 9: Voting Rights Act, or at least as it's been interpreted.

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Speaker 9: But that's now up for play, and so the justices

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Speaker 9: are going to have to decide does it violate the

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Speaker 9: equal protection provisions of the Constitution and does it violate

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Speaker 9: the voting rights protections in the Constitution. To have a

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Speaker 9: legislature the Congress pass a law which is interpreted as

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Speaker 9: requiring that you create racially gerrymandered districts, and that's.

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Speaker 2: What it is.

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Speaker 9: It's a very complicated history to this case. But where

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Speaker 9: we are now is that there is an extra black

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Speaker 9: so called Black Congressional district was created by court order

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Speaker 9: in Louisiana. Another court of three judge panel put the

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Speaker 9: hold on that found that unconstitutional. The Supreme Court stated,

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Speaker 9: so now here we are are we going to create

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Speaker 9: black only districts in order to achieve a certain number

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Speaker 9: of black congressmen or are we going to say that

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Speaker 9: race doesn't matter. You can't do that, And that's really

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Speaker 9: the question. So it's a huge question. And really why

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Speaker 9: it matters to Democrats is not because they want more

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Speaker 9: black congressmen. It's they're going to be Democrat districts. So

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Speaker 9: you could have, and I've seen various estimates, three to

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Speaker 9: five seats in play if the Supreme Court does away

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Speaker 9: with this rule.

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Speaker 1: So we've been handing three to five seats to the

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Speaker 1: Democrats just for some blatantly unconstitutional and frankly racist interpretation

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Speaker 1: of a law.

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Speaker 2: That's bonkers. How long has this been going on?

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Speaker 9: Bill, I don't know when the Voting Rights Act was enacted,

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Speaker 9: but at least several decades.

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Speaker 1: Good, Okay, so today was oral arguments. Did they make

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Speaker 1: a decision by dinner time?

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Speaker 2: How's it work from here? No?

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Speaker 9: Hopefully we get it long before June. Typically, the very

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Speaker 9: big cases they wait till the end of the term.

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Speaker 9: And we've discussed what that means. That's simply when the

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Speaker 9: court has cases docketed and that ends in June. So

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Speaker 9: the really big cases they usually hold to the last

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Speaker 9: couple of days in June. The problem here is that

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Speaker 9: there are deadlines to get these districts redistricted by the

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Speaker 9: time of the twenty twenty six congressional election. So I

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Speaker 9: think we're going to get a decision this calendar year.

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Speaker 9: I don't know what the deadline is for voting in Louisiana,

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Speaker 9: but presumably if they got this redistricted this calendar year,

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Speaker 9: or at least a decision this calendar year, they could

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Speaker 9: get it done in time for the next election. If

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Speaker 9: they sit on this till June, then nothing can really change.

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Speaker 9: By November there just won't be enough time to have

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Speaker 9: primaries and things like that. So I think we'll get

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Speaker 9: a quick decision, not tonight, but I think before the

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Speaker 9: end of this calendar year.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's shift gears something else here. Letitia James.

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Speaker 1: It looks to me, from the complete idiot layman's point

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Speaker 1: of view, that this is about as black and white

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Speaker 1: of a case as it is.

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Speaker 2: I may be a layman, but I have bought and

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Speaker 2: sold a.

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Speaker 1: Few houses in my various moves across the country, and it's.

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Speaker 2: Not a small section of it. Bill.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty obvious. Are you declaring that to be your

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Speaker 1: primary residence or not? And if you lie, it's bank fraud.

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Speaker 1: What am I missing on this case?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Well, I think the allegation is that she said it

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Speaker 9: would be a residence. I don't know if she said

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Speaker 9: it would be her primary residence, but she then immediately

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Speaker 9: rented it out, so it wasn't a residence primary or secondary.

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Speaker 9: And that's really the issue. That she got a better

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Speaker 9: rate on a mortgage and probably had an easier time

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Speaker 9: getting a mortgage when it's going to be a residence

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Speaker 9: than a rental property. And that's the issue. And they

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Speaker 9: seem to have a lot of evidence that this was

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Speaker 9: all planned, that she had a renter lined up immediately

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Speaker 9: and essentially defrauded the bank. That's the allegation, by getting

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Speaker 9: a better rate than she would have gotten, which of

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Speaker 9: course is very ironic because that's what she accused Donald

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Speaker 9: Trump of doing in the New York civil case against him,

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Speaker 9: was inflating his properties to get better deals from banks.

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Speaker 9: Of course, nobody was harmed. Actually the banks were very

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Speaker 9: sophisticated players. But so it's such an irony that the

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Speaker 9: person who weaponized the prosecutorial function against a political enemy

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Speaker 9: and against his family. Let's not forget that. She said

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Speaker 9: on the record she's going for his family. Also that

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Speaker 9: she is now indicted for a crime very similar to

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Speaker 9: what she tried to accuse him of doing. Now, his

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Speaker 9: was a civil case, not a criminal case, because she

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Speaker 9: couldn't prosecute him criminally. But what irony is there there that?

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Speaker 9: If there's anybody you know who talk about the boomerang,

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Speaker 9: I mean, this is a huge boomerang on Letitia James

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Speaker 9: if she gets convicted. I don't know if a jury

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Speaker 9: will convict her. It's the Eastern District of Virginia, so

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Speaker 9: there may be a little Trump derangement syndrome present on

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Speaker 9: the jury there that'll help her out. So called jury nullification,

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Speaker 9: but it's certainly the indictment is pretty damning. But of

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Speaker 9: course the indictment is just the prosecution's accusations. Doesn't tell

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Speaker 9: you what the defense is.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So let's talk about this jury nullification thing. Because

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Speaker 1: we have Brennan cole Mey with Tiss James, we have

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Speaker 1: Adam Schiff, we have all these people that may have

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Speaker 1: already been accused or we think they're going to be,

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Speaker 1: of having committed crimes. Where are these trials going to

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Speaker 1: be held? Because you'll have to forgive me. If they're

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Speaker 1: in Northern Virginia, were screwed?

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Speaker 9: Yes, they're in Northern Virginia. So that's where they're going

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Speaker 9: to take place. And I'm not sure why it was

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Speaker 9: the Eastern District of Virginia. I said, why didn't they

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Speaker 9: bring these in DC? Probably didn't want to be in

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Speaker 9: DC of all places the prosecution. But you probably know

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Speaker 9: Northern Virginia better than I do. But what I know

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Speaker 9: as someone who's not living there is that it's turned

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Speaker 9: very solidly blue, with a lot of government employees, federal

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Speaker 9: government employees. So it would be a very favorable venue

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Speaker 9: for somebody like Letitia James, particularly when it's the Trump

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Speaker 9: administration going after her. We'd like to think juries can

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Speaker 9: rise above that, and hopefully they will, but that's certainly

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Speaker 9: a factor that we have to consider.

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Speaker 2: Bill.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you saw Donald Trump is calling for the

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Speaker 1: Great Reform Agenda in higher education.

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Speaker 2: What is this?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, he released a couple of weeks ago something called

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Speaker 9: a Compact for Higher Education and he's been posting on

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Speaker 9: truth Social about it. That's getting a lot more attention

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Speaker 9: than when he issued the ten page document two weeks ago.

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Speaker 9: And basically, what is it's a carrot and stick approach.

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Speaker 9: That the carrot is if a school agrees to this compact,

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Speaker 9: which is ten pages, has a lot of stuff in there,

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Speaker 9: they will get preferential treatment when it comes to government funding,

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Speaker 9: they'll get fast tracked, they'll get other perks and benefits

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Speaker 9: if they agree to this. And what they're agreeing to

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Speaker 9: is essentially to deradicalize the university, to move it a

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Speaker 9: little back to the center, not to make it conservative,

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Speaker 9: not to make it maga, but just not as crazy

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Speaker 9: left as it's been. Introduce some viewpoint diversity, get rid

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Speaker 9: of the racism in hiring and admission, do all these things,

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Speaker 9: treat boys as boys and girls as girls based on biology,

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Speaker 9: not thought processes, things like that. But if you don't

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Speaker 9: take it, now comes the stick. And the stick is

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Speaker 9: basically the current situation, which is they are auditing schools,

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Speaker 9: they're reviewing schools, and if they find you in a

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Speaker 9: civil rights violation like they claim to have found Harvard

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Speaker 9: and several other schools, they're going to start to pull

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Speaker 9: your brands and pull your funding.

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Speaker 2: That's the stick.

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Speaker 9: So giving schools a choice, you can play ball with us.

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Speaker 9: You can agree to things which we know you don't like.

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Speaker 9: We know your faculty is going to hate, and if

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Speaker 9: you do, there'll be a reward. But if you don't,

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Speaker 9: you get stuck in the system you're in now. So

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Speaker 9: that's the choice he's giving them, and I expect most

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Speaker 9: schools will not go along with it.

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Speaker 1: Bill, How realistic is it to think that you could

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Speaker 1: even attempt a lot of this. I'm glad he's attempting something,

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Speaker 1: But as you mentioned, the faculty, everyone knows personnel's policy

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Speaker 1: the wants of the oldest sayings in the world. Because

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Speaker 1: it's true, you can give as many directives as you

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Speaker 1: want to Harvard, but if it's a bunch of maoists

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Speaker 1: in the teaching department, what goods are going to do well?

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Speaker 9: The way this is structured, if they do accept these reforms,

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Speaker 9: the president of the university is now personally liable if

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Speaker 9: they violate them, So that creates a strong incentive to

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Speaker 9: actually enforce this. And they talk about eliminating various programs

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Speaker 9: and things like that, so I think this will be

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Speaker 9: measurable and enforceable. Of course, the things are always going

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Speaker 9: to be hidden, but they've put things in place there

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Speaker 9: to put key people on the hook. If they don't

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Speaker 9: live up to it. And that's a strong incentive. If

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Speaker 9: you're president of a university, you have a strong incentive

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Speaker 9: so that you don't lose your life savings and possibly

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Speaker 9: worse to the federal government, very strong incentive to make

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Speaker 9: sure these rules are followed. That threat is not there

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Speaker 9: right now. The president of the university has no personal

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Speaker 9: incentive to make sure that the rules are followed and

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Speaker 9: the civil rights laws are obeyed. It's the institution that's responsible.

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Speaker 2: So that's huge.

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Speaker 9: So I think there are things in here that would

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Speaker 9: be extremely important. This is the equivalent of an intervention.

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Speaker 9: This is the Trump administration telling academia and higher education

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Speaker 9: that you are on an unsustainable path. You cannot continue

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Speaker 9: to live in this bubble that you've created. You have

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Speaker 9: alienated a significant percentage of the population. Gallup just came

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Speaker 9: out with the poll they said, the lowest ever percentage

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Speaker 9: of people think a college degree is important or very important.

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Speaker 9: Academia is a sinking ship, and the Trump administration is

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Speaker 9: actually trying to intervene and rescue it. That's not how

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Speaker 9: academia is going to look at it. They're going to

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Speaker 9: look at it as a gross interference but this is

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Speaker 9: actually in the long term interest of higher education to

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Speaker 9: get them off of a destructive path. It's like staging

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Speaker 9: a family intervention with a relative who's out of control.

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Speaker 9: Higher education cannot reform itself. It needs outside intervention.

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Speaker 1: No one knows better than you. Thank you for everything

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Speaker 1: has always bill light in the mood. Next, all right,

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Speaker 1: it's time to lighten the mood. RFK Junior's wife is

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Speaker 1: Sheryl Hines, and she's out there hawkm things right now.

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Speaker 1: And so she got invited for the View to the View,

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Speaker 1: invited to be on the View. However, you're supposed to

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Speaker 1: say that it doesn't matter. Remember the communist, he lives

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Speaker 1: in a world of make believe, and he carefully constructs

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Speaker 1: and maintains this world of make believe at all times.

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Speaker 2: Now, you it's not a problem.

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Speaker 1: But if you're some middle aged woman sitting at home

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Speaker 1: watching the View all day popping xanax, you live in

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Speaker 1: a world that is not real at all because they

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Speaker 1: lie twenty four hours a day.

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Speaker 2: They just lie to you.

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Speaker 1: Now you bring in Cheryl Hines and she starts tearing

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Speaker 1: apart that world.

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Speaker 2: You gotta go to commercial break.

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Speaker 10: To say, hey, you know consult your doctor before you

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Speaker 10: take this. I agree with that, and I think that's

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Speaker 10: okay for moms to here. Surel yeah, go ahead.

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Speaker 11: Out all right, I am this. This is not your

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Speaker 11: fight really to be fighting.

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Speaker 10: This is your husband's thank you forechnolog ahead.

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Speaker 2: But you're talking.

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Speaker 11: I just I do want to say, you know, he's

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Speaker 11: not a doctor, and he's not a professional. Yes, and

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Speaker 11: oftentimes when he's talking.

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Speaker 10: And just to be clear, ninety of secretarias of HHS

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Speaker 10: have not been doctors, but they've they've been great.

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Speaker 2: Don be honest.

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Speaker 10: One of Obama's Secretaries of HHS was an economist, so.

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Speaker 11: Most the majority of them that haven't had medical backgrounds. Wait, science,

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Speaker 11: don't do anything else, don't say anything else yet, because

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Speaker 11: they don't have to take a break.

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Speaker 2: All they do is lie to the poor dumb souls

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Speaker 2: who watch it. I'll see them