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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.

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Speaker 1: Everyone left on The Mother Knows Death. Let's get started

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Speaker 1: with the story of the day. So right after we

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Speaker 1: wrapped our show last week, this news broke that the

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Speaker 1: CEO had been killed by who everybody was thinking was

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Speaker 1: like a hired assassin by the way it appeared on video.

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Speaker 1: And as of yesterday, they have identified the suspect in

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Speaker 1: this case. Now, yeah, so are you shocked by the

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Speaker 1: guy that they found who did this? I'm shocked because

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Speaker 1: it was a twenty six year old His name is

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Speaker 1: Luigi Mangioni. Now that his background's coming out and they've

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Speaker 1: identified him, it seems like he was this Ivy League student.

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Speaker 1: He was a valedictorian of a very good high school

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Speaker 1: out of Baltimore, Maryland. He comes from this prominent real

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Speaker 1: So I think normally when we see attacks of this nature,

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Speaker 1: it is not somebody that fits this profile. I think

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Speaker 1: the craziest part of this whole story, with social media

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Speaker 1: and especially finding out this guy's only twenty six years old.

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Speaker 1: He has this huge family, like this huge extended family.

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Speaker 1: He went to colleges at University of Penn and he

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Speaker 1: you know, he went to the school, so he has

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Speaker 1: tons of classmates. He had a job, like all this stuff.

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Speaker 1: So in theory, there's lots of people that know who

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Speaker 1: this guy is. And a McDonald's worker in Altoona, Pa

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Speaker 1: or it was a patriot. I can't really get the

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Speaker 1: story straight because I'm hearing it was a worker, but

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Speaker 1: then I'm hearing it was a patron who told the

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Speaker 1: worker to call nine one one whatever. Somebody at McDonald's

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Speaker 1: called nine one one and I'm and they basically said

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Speaker 1: that this guy looks like the guy that's in all

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Speaker 1: the videos and all of the photos that you're showing

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Speaker 1: on the news. So you mean to tell me that

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Speaker 1: a complete stranger from Altuna Pia recognized this guy from

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Speaker 1: pictures on the news. But no one that knows this

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Speaker 1: guy family with this guy. Nothing knew who this guy was.

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Speaker 1: It's just it just kind of it doesn't really pass

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Speaker 1: the smell test for me. Well, I'd argue that the

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Speaker 1: you know, we're Italian, so we have family members that

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Speaker 1: don't have eyebrows that thick and noticeable. So right, one

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Speaker 1: of the things that's going around the internet, because I'm

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Speaker 1: always trying to just find out, like all of the

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Speaker 1: conspiracy theories that are going on with this as well,

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Speaker 1: is that people are showing photos, the original photos and

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Speaker 1: showing that that person didn't really have as much of

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Speaker 1: a unibrow as this guy does. So the one picture

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Speaker 1: first from the bus when he originally arrived to New York,

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Speaker 1: I feel like that really looks like him and his

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Speaker 1: thick eyebrows. But some of the other pictures they're showing

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Speaker 1: from like the survealance from Starbucks, I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if the pictures are altered, but they're showing his

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Speaker 1: picture versus this person's picture from the Starbucks, and there's

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Speaker 1: clearly a gap of skin between his eyebrows, whereas when

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Speaker 1: he was just picked up yesterday, he clearly has a

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Speaker 1: unibrow pretty much, right, And not to say when was that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's Italian and he could have plucked it

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Speaker 2: Right, So that's that's definitely a theory.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just curious about all this different stuff that's

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Speaker 1: you see that multiple people are for this guy who

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Speaker 1: killed the CEO of this healthcare company. In fact, Maria

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Speaker 1: and I were writing this up in the grossery room

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Speaker 1: yesterday in the morning because I was like, well, let's

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Speaker 1: then we were halfway through writing it when we saw

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Speaker 1: that they caught the guy. So immediately when we got

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Speaker 1: he had thirteen point nine one thousand followers, right, So

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Speaker 1: then I set thirteen thousand followers, so I said, well,

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Speaker 1: and she's like, oh my god, he has fourteen thousand followers,

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Speaker 2: I thought they got I thought.

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Speaker 1: They took his account, so they took his YouTube, and

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Speaker 1: And this is maybe the first eye profile case ever

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Speaker 1: where Goodreads is being cited. I don't think a lot

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Speaker 1: of people understands that your Goodreads profile is public. I

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Speaker 1: made mine private because I am embarrassed by my reading choices.

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Speaker 1: But everybody was going through this with a fine tooth code.

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Speaker 1: Then they saw that this guy left a review for

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Speaker 1: Ted Kezinci's manifesto who is the Unibomber, So I think

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Speaker 1: it's really gonna be interesting. There was also a lot

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Speaker 2: Really look into that.

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Speaker 1: I heard on the news this morning that he had

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Speaker 1: related to a surfing accident he had, and after he

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Speaker 1: I found that really interesting. Of course, the question everybody

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Speaker 2: How do you not recognize somebody.

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Speaker 1: That looks you know, It's it's pretty obvious, Like I think,

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Speaker 2: What do you think?

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Speaker 1: But well, what's I mean? I think that this is

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm sorry, this is just so juicy.

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Speaker 1: I'm just so into this story. But when his mugshot

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Speaker 1: It's just like it's hard not to finding highly entertaining

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Speaker 1: crazy things. I mean, you can't deny that he's He's

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Speaker 1: an attractive guy, you know, So it's really interesting. I

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Speaker 1: just think that just to see him gain hundreds of

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Speaker 1: it right, and you're seeing people say comments just as

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Speaker 1: terrible as that this guy should have been dead. Nobody

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Speaker 1: should to call them in. The person at McDonald's is

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Speaker 1: a class trader? Is that the word people are using

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Speaker 1: for even turning him in. Think about this, Even though

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Speaker 1: he did, you have to think, like, as a chronic

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Speaker 1: Would you rather let this person go or do you

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Speaker 1: Right knowing that this person was in the restaurant and

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Speaker 1: be a stray might have been the person, but yeah.

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Speaker 2: But you can't really get in trouble for that. I

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Speaker 1: I just think that the person was trying to do

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Speaker 2: On the run, and I'm turning them in.

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Speaker 1: And there are plenty of people that think that he

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Speaker 2: So I kind of understand both sides of it.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I'm not going to say people have valid points

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Speaker 1: and I'm really curious what's going to happen when this guy,

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Speaker 1: And I'd like you to find any people in the

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Speaker 1: to do with health insurance. Now, for me, mine's not

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Speaker 2: But that's not a life or death situation.

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Speaker 1: You have people that are getting life saving medications not covered,

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Speaker 1: they're not getting the coverage that they need for whatever

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Speaker 1: So that's how these people end up making more money.

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Speaker 1: means that all of those CEOs need to die. And

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Speaker 1: doing this kind of vigilian How do you say.

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Speaker 2: The word vigil agil Yeah, they're doing.

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Speaker 1: They're taking matters into their own hands. I hear a

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Speaker 1: But like, is this murder actually going to change anything.

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Speaker 1: I know that right after he got murdered something with

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Speaker 1: like I guarantee this past five days that there's been

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Speaker 1: life's problems are solved, I'd be way more supportive of it.

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Speaker 1: But like it's just to me, it's just like it's

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Speaker 1: not solving the problem. In fact, that dude was replaced

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Speaker 1: five minutes after he was pronounced dead by some other

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Speaker 1: guy that's going to do the same exact thing, you

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Speaker 1: sent a message for sure, And I mean you have

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Speaker 1: to think of which all the by the way message

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Speaker 1: it sent was we're taking these people's names off of

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Speaker 1: celebrity news, all right. John lethcow So I believe you

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Speaker 1: know him probably most from being the iconic serial killer

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Speaker 2: It was definitely I know him best from Harry and

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Speaker 1: Okay, that was like my that was like my childhood,

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Speaker 1: also on this incredible show called The Old Man that

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Speaker 1: With the prostate cancer, I think it's highly unlikely that

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Speaker 2: So it sucks.

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Speaker 1: I mean he I mean, he was almost eighty seventy

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Speaker 1: No. I also feel like he lives close to us.

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Speaker 1: which is interesting. I feel like I could be wrong.

438
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 1: I feel like when Dexter was out, I had a

439
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 1: family friend on my dad's side that said he would

440
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,400
Speaker 1: go to the gym and he would just be there

441
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 1: working out, and he's like I just watched him like

442
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 1: murder somebody on TV last night, and he's just like

443
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 1: this nice guy at the gym that works out next

444
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:43,639
Speaker 1: to me.

445
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 2: God, Dexter was so good.

446
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,639
Speaker 1: That was I feel like that's when Dexter just like

447
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 1: wasn't good anymore as soon as he killed that lady

448
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 1: Rita was her name.

449
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just I just was like it just like,

450
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,920
Speaker 2: I don't know, it went downhill from there. That was shocking.

451
00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 2: But okay, okay, let's talk.

452
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the biggest juicy celebrity story this week.

453
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

454
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 1: So in October, the civil lawsuit had been filed by

455
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 1: a Jane Doe claiming that Diddy raped her in two

456
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 1: thousand when she was just thirteen years old. So now

457
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 1: the suit's been amended to include Jay Z and the

458
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 1: sexual assault. Basically, they're saying what happened is that MTV

459
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 1: was hosting the VMAs in New York in two thousand

460
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 1: and this thirteen year old really wanted to go and

461
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 1: didn't have a ticket, and she really wanted to go

462
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 1: to an after party and couldn't figure out how to

463
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 1: get in, So she started going up to the limo

464
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 1: drivers and asking them if they could bring her to

465
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 1: a party. So when she gets up to one of them,

466
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 1: who ended up being Ditty's limo driver. He basically said

467
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 1: something along the lines of you're exactly what he would

468
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 1: be looking for, which is disgusting.

469
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

470
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 1: So then this limo driver, who I also think should

471
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 1: be liable in this case if they could figure out

472
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 1: who it is, brings her to this party. She's given

473
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 1: a piece of paper to sign, which she said at

474
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 1: the time she believed was an ending, which is common

475
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 1: when you're going in celebrity spaces. And she was also

476
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: given a drink which made her really woozy. So at

477
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 1: this party she went to lay down because she was

478
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,919
Speaker 1: feeling weird from the drink, and at that time, she

479
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 1: said that's when jay Z and Diddy entered the room

480
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 1: she was in, and the suit is alleging that jay

481
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 1: Z took her clothes off and raped her while Ditty

482
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: and an unnamed female celebrity watched, and then when Ditty

483
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: came up to her was trying to receive oral sex

484
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 1: from her, she was able to hit him, grab her clothes,

485
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 1: run out, and call her.

486
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 2: Dad at a gas station.

487
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 1: So, is there any other information that she told anyone

488
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,199
Speaker 1: about this when it happened, or like, what makes her

489
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 1: come out right now with this story because it's twenty

490
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: whole years later. Well, I'm on four year. It was

491
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 1: two thousand.

492
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 2: At the time this happened.

493
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 1: Both of them, jay Z and Diddy were in prime,

494
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 1: in the prime of their careers. So I don't know

495
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,439
Speaker 1: if it was a situation where she was too scared

496
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 1: or maybe she didn't tell her dad would happen because

497
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: she was embarrassed and she thought she was going to

498
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: get in trouble with her parents. I know that happens

499
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 1: a lot with children that are molested, is that they're

500
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 1: scared about what's going to happen to them. You know,

501
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: she's saying she called her dad. I think more details

502
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: about that are going to come out in court, not

503
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 1: just in these preliminary court dogs and jay Z's team

504
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: is basically saying that they're trying to blackmail him. Well,

505
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 1: the reason that I ask is not because there's a

506
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: reason that people can't wait, because obviously people have lots

507
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: of different excuses why they wait so long. I just

508
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 1: I'm more curious that if this ever goes to court,

509
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 1: if you know, they would be able to, like you know,

510
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 1: with the Menendez case, that they're able to go back

511
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 1: and be like, oh, these couple things happened when they

512
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: were younger, that we could prove that these allegations may

513
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: indeed be true. That's all I'm trying to say. You're

514
00:24:56,040 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 1: in a situation where you're you. I mean, like the

515
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: Diddy thing is is like, there's just no way that

516
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 1: he's the only one that was in on this. He

517
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: was having these crazy parties and like they were living

518
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: this rock star lifestyle kind of. But at the same time,

519
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 1: a lot of these these people that have a lot

520
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 1: of money are now going to be targets for people,

521
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 1: for anybody that ever associated with any of them, because

522
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 1: because they have money, and that could just be that

523
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 1: could just be a thing. So you can't automatically just

524
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 1: jump to it. But does does jay Z ever have

525
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: any kind of allegations like this against him? Besides this

526
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: one particular case that just came up. I don't we know,

527
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,360
Speaker 1: Beyonce sister beat the shit out of him once, right,

528
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: which is, well, yeah, I said that to you because

529
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: I found it interesting, and there is you know, there

530
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: is a lot of speculation a couple of years ago

531
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: that he had an affair and then she wrote her

532
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 1: album Lemonade, which was kind of like just bashing him.

533
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: And I'm like, really good on her for, you know,

534
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: embarrassing the shit out of him, but again, she decided

535
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 1: to stay with him. I think right now, you know

536
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 1: their oldest daughter is around this age, she's twelve years old.

537
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: I think you really have to look at that and

538
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,919
Speaker 1: look at this and just you know, really evaluate it

539
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: like that, because I'm like, even if the girl lied

540
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: and said she was eighteen years old or of whatever,

541
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: the consenting ages in New York, you can tell when

542
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: somebody's thirteen versus being older, right, Oh, yeah, totally so.

543
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 1: And he's facing a lot of criticism because the three

544
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: of them, meaning Beyonce, jay Z and their daughter went

545
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: to some movie premiere like last night.

546
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 2: Or the night before.

547
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: I saw that, and I was kind of shocked. I

548
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: thought it was very coincidental when this lawsuit was dropped.

549
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: And I actually think it's kind of I don't know

550
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: the whole story because I'm like, don't really care about

551
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: their lives. But this was the third daughter, what's her name,

552
00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: Blue Ivy or Ivy. She was in this Lion King

553
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: Mufasa movie. Right, I don't know if she's in it

554
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: my family, so I think she's in it. And and

555
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 1: like that's the thing, Like it was dropped right before

556
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: like her big moment, and I think that that's kind

557
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: of not cool. And I don't know, like what are

558
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 1: her parents not going to go to the premiere of

559
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 1: her her big debut like that, you know what I mean?

560
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: Like it especially, what are they because if they didn't go,

561
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: there would be lots to talk too, Like they're kind

562
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: of in a shitty place.

563
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 2: What are you going to do the kids?

564
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 1: Even though the kid's wearing a dress that shows are cleavage,

565
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: which is kind of weird for a twelve year old. Honestly, Wait,

566
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: like the kid's twelve years old, Like my kid's twelve

567
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 1: years old. She like needs her mommy and daddy there,

568
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: like she's a child, you know what I mean? So

569
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 1: what was she going to go to this premiere by herself?

570
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: Like no, it just would be weird.

571
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 2: So I don't I.

572
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: Guess a lot of I guess a lot of people

573
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 1: don't understand because when you want to look at it

574
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: from a celebrity point of view, it's like you just

575
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 1: got slapped with this lawsuit, whether it's true or not

576
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: that you did this. It's in the news and it's

577
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 1: everywhere and some people are gonna think you're guilty even

578
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 1: though you haven't been convicted. Right, So, I think it

579
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 1: seems impoor taste that he went. But when you put

580
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 1: it in the perspective of a parent that's just trying

581
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: to be there, we supportive for their daughter. Yeah, I

582
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: think most parents are going to understand that. I mean

583
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 1: I saw the pictures of her on the red carpet,

584
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: and I felt terrible for her because she looks I mean,

585
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 1: obviously she's probably just scared because she's standing there and

586
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: millions of people are taking pictures of her and stuff.

587
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 1: But I'm just like, she knows what's going on, you

588
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 1: know what. I'm like, I can't even I like, I

589
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: want to throw up even thinking about, like talking about

590
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: my dad having sex with somebody that was my age

591
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: when I was thirteen years old or whatever. Like, it's

592
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: just it's just disturbing how these people live, honestly, So

593
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: that right there was like I just I felt bad

594
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: for her because I was like, this is like her

595
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: moment and it's getting overshadowed by all this bullshit. One

596
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: important thing I saw an article yesterday was that apparently

597
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: so jay Z is like way older than Beyonce. He's

598
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: she he's fifty five and she's I don't know how

599
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: old she is, she's in her forties, Yeah, but he's

600
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: he's significantly older than her, and I guess there's they

601
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: They supposedly didn't start dating until she was nineteen, but

602
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: there's like photos of him backstage with her when she

603
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: was sixteen around the same time. So, so do you

604
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: understand what I'm saying, Like they're saying like he's backstage

605
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: with her when she was sixteen, and he was making

606
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: comments like, oh, she's gonna be mine one day, and

607
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: he was like twenty eight.

608
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: And I think and like to think.

609
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: That he was a that he could have been involved

610
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: with a thirteen year old that was only three years

611
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: younger than her at the time.

612
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 2: Is not.

613
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: It's not unli It's not unlikely, but a lot of

614
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: men would say that. No, there is a distinction between

615
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: thirteen and sixteen, obviously, But I think that happened with

616
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: Celine Dion that her agent, Oh yeah, that was she's

617
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: really young.

618
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 2: Oh yes, like thirteen, you know, she was.

619
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: Like like a little No, I think she was like

620
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: actually a little kid.

621
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 2: And then they ended up getting married when she was

622
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 2: of age.

623
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: But that and nobody really talks about that, like that's

624
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: that's like a whole other I think he died. So

625
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,479
Speaker 1: I don't know a lot of people are thinking about it,

626
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: but like it happens. I know a lot of people

627
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: were like, this is weird she was she wasn't. I

628
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: don't even think she was a teenager. I think she

629
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: was like a little girl when he started being her manager.

630
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: And that's what really bothered people about that. But any anyway,

631
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: Like so, so the questions are is that he's the

632
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: named male celebrity. I don't know why there's an unnamed

633
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: female celebrity. If you're naming Diddy and you're naming jay Z,

634
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: why is the female unnamed? Well, and there's been speculation

635
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: that it's Beyonce online, but she has not been named.

636
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: This also happened in two thousand.

637
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 2: She apparently around that time she was like sixteen, Well

638
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 2: could that be right?

639
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know how old were you in

640
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: two thousand? In two thousand, I was five, about to

641
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: turn six at the end of two thousand. Yeah, So

642
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: in so, I don't think she can't say was sixteen

643
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: in two thousand. I think she's your age, so she

644
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: was probably in her early twenties regardless beyondest in two thousand,

645
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like nineteen or twenty, so

646
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, but I'm forty five. I think that

647
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: she if she's forty, that would completely make sense that

648
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: she was sixteen.

649
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: I'm looking it up.

650
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: She's forty three, So in two thousand she would have

651
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: been nineteen.

652
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's when. So then that's when she started

653
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 2: dating him. No, so she did it.

654
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: They did not publicly start dating until two thousand and one,

655
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: and this happened in two thousand. Also, like it could

656
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: have been somebody did he was dating?

657
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 2: You don't know?

658
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: So it's like, well I saw that he was dating

659
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: so jay Z at the time was dating Aliyah.

660
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 2: There was one other one that I forget that. I

661
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 2: was like, oh she's still yeah. I mean, who was

662
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 2: Diddy dating at that time? Was it Ja Lo? Curious?

663
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: Well, he was dating j Loo when he shot that

664
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: woman at the night club, So when did that happen?

665
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: This was like all around the same time, wasn't It

666
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: was all around the same time, like late nineties, early

667
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: two thousands.

668
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 2: Interesting.

669
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: It's just such a hot mess. I mean, I really

670
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: I heard this term earlier.

671
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 2: I'm going to reuse it.

672
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: I hope we don't get Epstein in this case where

673
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: we like don't ever get the list of people. Oh,

674
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: I think I think that list is coming out. So

675
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: I think I think a lot of stuff's going to

676
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: start unraveling this year, and I'm very interested to watch.

677
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: All right, So, well, if we hear anything else about

678
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: like obviously more stuff's going to be coming out about

679
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: the the Brian Thompson murder, but like we're not going

680
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: to just talk about it all the time unless it's

681
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: like other stuff, because I want to wait until the

682
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: trial to really get in on it.

683
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, for sure. Okay.

684
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: So apparently in South America there's this traditional spiritual cleanse

685
00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: where people will ingest poisonous Amazonian Frau venom. I guess

686
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: they use it as this toxic cleansing method. So this

687
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: Mexican actress, her name was Marcella Alcazar Rodriguez, was doing

688
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:09,479
Speaker 1: the cleanse.

689
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 2: She willingly consumed the venom and then.

690
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: Immediately became very sick, having diarrhea, throwing up, and then

691
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: she died.

692
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 2: So I look this up.

693
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: It's called cambo and it's a South American healing ritual

694
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: from and they take venom from a giant monkey frog,

695
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: which is called a philo medusa bicolor. All of the

696
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: stuff I looked up said that these indigenous people put

697
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: burns on people and form a blister and then basically

698
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: pop the blister and put the venom inside of this blister.

699
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: So they put it on like more topical, and then

700
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: the venom goes into their body and it does like

701
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: the theory is it's supposed to like cleanse.

702
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 2: Their body out right.

703
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: I didn't see anything about supposed to you're supposed to

704
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: eat it, so that could be. I don't know if

705
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: people do that or whatever, but that doesn't seem to

706
00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: be part of this ritual. Even people that get it

707
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: done with the burns and everything could have symptoms for

708
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: five minutes to a half hour afterwards, which include nausea, vomiting,

709
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, but people usually don't die from it,

710
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 1: although it has been linked to toxic hepatitis and organ failure,

711
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: which clearly happened in this case with her. Well, it

712
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: appears that there's a shaman that was involved and they're

713
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: under investigation, so I don't know if they incorrectly told

714
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: this actress what to do with it or what, but

715
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: she did. The weirdest thing is that I read that

716
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: this is not illegal to do, but it is not

717
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 1: regulated by the FDA, so you should be careful if

718
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 1: you do it.

719
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 2: But I don't think that she did it right. I

720
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 2: don't know.

721
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: I mean maybe if you guys know anything more about this,

722
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: you could fill us in. But sounds like a kind

723
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: of dumb way to die, don't you think?

724
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:54,760
Speaker 2: Yeah? Of course?

725
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: All right. Last week, this brand called a Bunch Bunch

726
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: Fox Lunch I was holding a holiday event in LA

727
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 1: where influencers were invited. Are you familiar with this brand?

728
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 2: Yeah?

729
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: They make those, don't they make, like cute little purses

730
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Yeah, they're all it's I feel

731
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: like they're primarily Disney themed item like the ones they

732
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: sell it hot topic. Yeah, it's very hot topic leg

733
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: of a store. Anyway, they invited this Disney influencer, her

734
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: name was Dominique Brown, to this event they were having.

735
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: Before the event, it appears if they asked everybody attending

736
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: this if they had any food allergies, and I guess

737
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: she told them she did, and they relate it to

738
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: the venue, and then again at the venue. This influencer

739
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: had double checked with the staff to make sure that

740
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: her allergen was not going to be in the meal,

741
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: and they assured her it would not be, and then

742
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: after she started eating the meal, she immediately started having

743
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: a severe allergic reaction and then ended up dying. I

744
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: hate hearing stories like this. I just think they're so

745
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 1: they're so preventable. But I'm gonna say the same thing

746
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: I say every single time, like, if you have an.

747
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: Allergy, that's that bad.

748
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: I just wouldn't trust anyone else to make my food.

749
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: I just I just think, I just think it's not

750
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: a good idea. Really, I mean, what do you think

751
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: about that? I have complicated feelings about it, because as

752
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: somebody with food allergies, you know, it's like you can't

753
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: but you don't have any food allergy that's going to

754
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: cause you to I don't. I don't, But I'm saying

755
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: like I have ones that make my throat extremely itchy

756
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: and make me uncomfortable or will have to make me

757
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: take a band a drill or something. And it's like

758
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: you want to live your life and be able to

759
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: go to events such as this, but not have to

760
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: worry that, you know, somebody will just blow you off.

761
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: But I think if you have such severe allergies, you

762
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: need to have an EpiPen or something on you that

763
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 1: could try to help you. Because I was reading in

764
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: another article that apparently the DJ at the event had

765
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: stopped the event asked over the microphone if anybody had

766
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: an EpiPen because it didn't seem like she had one

767
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: on her and they were not able to help her

768
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 1: fast enough. Yeah, And I don't know, Like, I don't

769
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: know how you have an allergy that's severe that you

770
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: trust people to make your food, and then on top

771
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: of that, if you do that, you don't have emergency

772
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: medicine strapped to your body at all times in case

773
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: you do have an exposure accidentally.

774
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 2: But I'm curious.

775
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: They haven't released what the allergy was yet, so I'm curious.

776
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: Possibly peanut a lot, It's it's the most common one

777
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: that would cause an anaphylaxis reaction like this, Like another

778
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: one is beestings, Like there's there's certain ones that just

779
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: like cause people to have these extreme reactions.

780
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: Not that it couldn't have been something else, but I

781
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 2: don't know.

782
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: Like I just look at it, especially with adults, like

783
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 1: you're in control of your own body when it comes

784
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: to that stuff, and you can't. You are, but you

785
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: can't like live in a bubble in your house, you know,

786
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: Like we I feel like we had a story or

787
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: I read a story in the last year where like

788
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: somebody had a severe peanut allergic reaction on an airplane.

789
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: Like people are to bring snacks from their home on

790
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: the airplane. You're allowed to buy peanut products and the

791
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: airplanes so you just can't fly at all because somebody

792
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: might bring peanuts on the plane one time, Like you

793
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: have to live your life at the same time, I

794
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: just think it's not realistic to expect other people to

795
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: accommodate you, even though restaurants when they're alerted, should do that,

796
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: but like if they were cooking something that had a

797
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: sauce or something like if you haven't enough of an

798
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: extreme peanut allergy. I was just explaining this to the

799
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 1: kids the other day because they were eating like regular

800
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: m and ms, and it says like maybe made in

801
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: a factory that has peanuts or you know, something like that,

802
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: and I was trying to explain to them, like that

803
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 1: they're made in the same factory, and there's a possibility

804
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 1: that like you know, someone could be picking up stuff

805
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: or one of the machines cowt malfunction or something, and

806
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 1: something could fly over to the other side of the

807
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: room and just like that, one little piece of it

808
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: could get people sick. And it has that's why they

809
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: put that packet, that writing on the packages, so you know,

810
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: when you have people preparing food, especially for events like that,

811
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: it's like a cafeteria style feeding a lot of people thing,

812
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: they might just not be all hip. Like imagine if

813
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: you had a kid that was like seventeen years old

814
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: and they're just like, oh, this wasn't this this gravy

815
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: doesn't have peanuts in it.

816
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 2: You don't know, you know what I mean, Like.

817
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: I think you I think we're spinning our tires. You

818
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: could just argue either side all the time.

819
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 2: It's you know, like I.

820
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 1: Mean, it's the whole thing is just unfortunate. And it's

821
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: just like a reminder to carry an EpiPen with you

822
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: if you have a severe allergy like that, just in

823
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: case you do have an accidental exposure it. It sucks

824
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: too because like lots of places like people have them

825
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 1: sometimes you know, it just sucks in that particular case,

826
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: like no one was.

827
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 2: Able to help her. So, okay, freak accidents, All right,

828
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 2: we have.

829
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: An update about the grandma who is missing and suspected

830
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: to have fallen in a sink hole. So now she

831
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: has been found and confirmed dead. They're saying she died

832
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: of head and torso injuries from falling thirty feet into

833
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: the same hoal. Yeah, so she had a preliminary autopsy

834
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 1: result so she had blun trauma from the from the fall.

835
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 2: That's it sucks, I was hoping.

836
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,479
Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't look good when when they weren't

837
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: able to find her right away and then it moved

838
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 1: to a recovery effort and then they finally found her,

839
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: So just like what it. I guess that's the thing,

840
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:24,919
Speaker 1: like if you live in an area like that that's

841
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: prone to get these that you just always have to

842
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: kind of be paying attention to those types of things.

843
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: It it really just sucks. I guess it's fortunate in

844
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: this case that you know, the kid didn't get out

845
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: of the car too.

846
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

847
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: I'm still mind blown that these mining towns have this

848
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: problem that. I mean, they're saying she fell into an

849
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: abandoned mine essentially that wasn't in operation since the fifties.

850
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, And what I mean.

851
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: Is she walking over a sidewalk in grass that collapsed

852
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: like you would how would you even be able to

853
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: recognize that one of these was there? You know, it's

854
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: I don't think she fell into an actual hole, like

855
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: it's a sinkhole, is like the ground falls in, you know.

856
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 1: Like I feel that it's kind of the town's responsibility

857
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: to locate the abandoned mines and try to like seal

858
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: them up in some type of way so that this

859
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: doesn't happen.

860
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't know. Just it sucks. Unfortunate's

861
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 2: freak accident, all right.

862
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: So in another crazy accident, this pregnant woman had called

863
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: nine one one around two am and said that her

864
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: brakes weren't working. And you know, she was really stressing

865
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: out because she said she was twenty weeks pregnant and

866
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: she was like, I'm not going to die today basically,

867
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 1: So the officers recommended she put the car in neutral

868
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: because she said when she was pressing on the brake

869
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: it wouldn't stop the car. She wasn't able to turn

870
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: it off or anything. So by putting in a neutral

871
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: it was able to slow it down a little bit.

872
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: But what's really scary is that she was headed downhill

873
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: basically towards this lake, and officers were able to quickly

874
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 1: get there and get in front of her so that

875
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: they were able I guess the way they positioned it,

876
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 1: she was able to bump into their car without causing

877
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: this like catastrophic car accident and stopped the car before

878
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: it rolled into the lake with her in it. This

879
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: story is giving me massive anxiety in my chest. Like,

880
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: imagine driving and your brakes don't work. That that's like

881
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 1: a terrifying feeling. I just and and like those cops

882
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: are kind of heroes too, Like imagine because if her

883
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: car hit their car, it could have pushed because they're

884
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: not gonna like pull over a let her go into

885
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 1: the lake, you know, like it could have just pushed

886
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: both of them into the water, you know what I mean.

887
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: It's very scary. It reminded me of this Lifetime movie

888
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: I watched when I was fifteen, where that you know

889
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: how dramatic those movies are. Like this, this guy was

890
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,240
Speaker 1: a mechanic and the woman like did him dirty or something,

891
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: so he cut her brakes so that, well, she that's nice. Yeah, No,

892
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: I mean she's She's very lucky this happened. I think

893
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: she I don't know why she was driving at two am,

894
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: if she had a like a bar job or something

895
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: and she was working late, or maybe she was just

896
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: running out to get you know, she had the pregnancy

897
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: hunger and just wanted a stack. But I feel like

898
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: it was lucky this happened in the middle of the

899
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: night because there probably was no other cars on the

900
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: road and she was able to avoid crashing into anything else.

901
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: So I was looking some stuff up, and so she

902
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: had a Chevy Malibu car and I saw that there

903
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: was a class action lawsuit between twenty thirteen and twenty

904
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: twenty two saying that the vehicles contained defective engine parts

905
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: that could cause a loss of breaking capability. Oh so

906
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: I wonder if there was a recall associated with that.

907
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 1: That's that's something that we need to talk about too.

908
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: It's just if you ever get a recall, you need

909
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: to get it handled immediately, because there was there was

910
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 1: I did a post years ago about all of these

911
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: lawsuits that were coming up because of recalls with air

912
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: bags and shrapnel injuries when the air bags deployed, and

913
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: a lot of the people were just like, yeah, I

914
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: just got the card in the mail, and I kind

915
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: of ignored it, you know, because it's a pain in

916
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: the ass to have to get your steering will ripped

917
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: out and stuff. But well, we had the depth dis

918
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: section too about that actor who was crushed by his

919
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: car because the jeep.

920
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: The jeep.

921
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: What was his name, Antoine anton Yelch. Yeah, that was

922
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: really interesting. But I guess if you get any recalls,

923
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: just get them fixed, because they're not just letting you

924
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: know for no reason.

925
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 2: It's pretty important, all right.

926
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 1: So recently doctor Jeannette Neshue, is that the right way

927
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 1: to pronounce her name?

928
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 2: I have no idea.

929
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,240
Speaker 1: So she's been chosen to be the next US Surgeon General.

930
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: So now this insane story is coming out about the

931
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: death of her father. Apparently in nineteen ninety when she

932
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: was thirteen. She said she went to her father's bedroom

933
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: in the morning to get scissors out of his tackle box.

934
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: The tackle box was above his bed, and when she

935
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: opened it, she said, the entire thing dumped out, including

936
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 1: this loaded handgun, and when the gun fell out, it

937
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: accidentally fired, shooting her sleeping father in the head and

938
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: killing him. Could you imagine, like anybody dealing with something

939
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: like that these like I always think about that. You

940
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: hear a lot of times, especially people that are leaving

941
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: guns laying around that are ready to go, which is

942
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: just the dumbest idea ever. It's usually children. I mean,

943
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: she was thirteen. She was a child that comes across

944
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: it and they end up killing one of their siblings

945
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: or something like that. And just imagine waking up every

946
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: day knowing that you did something like that to kill

947
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: your sibling or to kill somebody else, even though it

948
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 1: wasn't really your fault. I mean, it was her dad's

949
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: fault for leaving the gun loaded like that, if it

950
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: was his weapon. Yeah, and she feels guilty just because

951
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: of it happening in her innocently trying to just go

952
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 1: get a pair of scissors out of his tackle box.

953
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 2: And I think you know, the.

954
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 1: Message here is you should never leave a loaded gun

955
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: unattended or just in reach of anybody, especially a child

956
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: that doesn't know how to use it or anything, or

957
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 1: in cases like this where they could fall and accidentally

958
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: it could have happened to him too. It's just you

959
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like that's it shouldn't just be

960
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: ready to go like that. I know a lot of

961
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: people want to leave them like that because obviously, if

962
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 1: there's an emergency or a break in, you just want

963
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: it to be ready to go. But I mean, this

964
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: is the kind of stuff that happens, and that's terrifying.

965
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: And she said that that. I guess that was one

966
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: of the reasons that she decided to become a doctor,

967
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 1: because she's just looking at her dad helpless and wasn't

968
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: able to help them. I don't think a doctor would

969
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: have been able to help them either, honestly. But I

970
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: don't know, Like I think she was just picked. Don't

971
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: they have to like appoint these people, Like, don't they have.

972
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 2: To get voted in or something. I don't. I have

973
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 2: no idea how that works.

974
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: But she's she's this denominee, been officially chosen or something.

975
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 1: But what I do find it interesting to hear from

976
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: an adult this happened too, because well, I guess we're

977
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: not hearing from her directly because they're saying she wrote

978
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: a book and she like had the first sentence talk

979
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: about his death inspiring her to become a doctor, and

980
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: then never mentioned the details of it, Yes, so leave

981
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: it to the news to go find You know this

982
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 1: what I've been hearing over the past couple of weeks

983
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,959
Speaker 1: about all these people that are getting appointed for things

984
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: and everything, Like, you really have to be nuts to

985
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: want to work in politics, because these people just go

986
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 1: into the depths of your background and just find every

987
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: little thing like you, Like, who wants to live like that?

988
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 2: Really?

989
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 1: They argue the same thing about being on a Bravo show,

990
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: because Bravo fans are notoriously psychos and they will find

991
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 1: anything that ever happened to you in your life.

992
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 2: No thank me, no thanks? All right.

993
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: This next one is about a mom who took her

994
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 1: two daughters to Target and put the three year old

995
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: in the main part of the car, not the little

996
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: basket up front. She said they were going through the

997
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: entire store and everything seemed okay, and then as they

998
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: were about to leave, the three year old got her

999
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: finger stuck in the hole of the cart. This reminds

1000
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: me of when I got my head stuck in the

1001
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 1: bars at the King of Prussia Mall when I was

1002
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 1: a kid and had to be rescued by his firefighters.

1003
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 2: No tell I don't think you've ever heard.

1004
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: Always I could meet one of these firefighters, like, hey,

1005
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: is sometime in like nineteen eighty three or eighty for

1006
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: do you remember rescuing a kid from the bars of

1007
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: King of Prussia Mall. I thought I was at the

1008
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: Eschelon Mall. No, it was because we were with Nanny and

1009
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 1: Pop and we were like up there, Oh my god,

1010
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: all right, tell everybody what happened exactly.

1011
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:13,439
Speaker 2: Well, I don't.

1012
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,919
Speaker 1: I kind of like vaguely remember it because I guess

1013
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: I was like four or five, like I was little,

1014
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 1: you know, I remember pieces of it, but I guess

1015
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,919
Speaker 1: my mom was my mom and dad and grandparents were

1016
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: at the mall, and my mom and my grandmom went

1017
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 1: in a store together, which is typically what would happen,

1018
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: and then my dad and my grandpap were sitting in

1019
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: the mall because they have absolutely no interest in being

1020
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 1: in a mall. In fact, that's probably the last time

1021
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: my dad was ever at a mall and my mom

1022
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:44,919
Speaker 1: was in a store and she was like, that's something

1023
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: like coally screaming?

1024
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 2: Is that her? And she went out. Of course, anytime

1025
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 2: my mom.

1026
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: The two times my mom left the children with my

1027
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: dad's and my grandpap actually there's been like an injury, right,

1028
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: So she goes out of the store and finds like,

1029
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: my head is stuck in between the bars, like from

1030
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: the top floor on the bottom floor, the the you

1031
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: know the railing around the top floor. So they had

1032
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: to call emergency response to Common and like get be

1033
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: out of the bars. Was this before or after you

1034
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: spacked your head on the fireplace?

1035
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1036
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: I don't know actually, but you know that you want

1037
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: to hear the cutest story that Gabe ever had. I

1038
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: stay cute, But he had to rescue this like really

1039
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: fat little kid, like a baby though, like baby fat

1040
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: thighs that was stuck in one of those those like

1041
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: swing set you know those like rubber like seats that

1042
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: go on a swing set for a baby, like place

1043
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: them in. It's like a rubber diaper. Almost see the baby,

1044
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: Like he put the the I guess the parent put

1045
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,439
Speaker 1: the baby in this thing and they're like, fat little

1046
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: leg got stuck in.

1047
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 2: This in the seat of the swing set. And he

1048
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 2: had to cut it out.

1049
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 1: And he showed me the fat little leg of the baby,

1050
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, it's so cute.

1051
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 2: So this is what happened. To this kid. This kid stuck.

1052
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 1: It looked like there was like two fingers stuck in

1053
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: one of the holes of the car, So everybody knows

1054
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: what that is. And the mom noticed and like you're thinking, like, okay,

1055
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 1: she's kind of in a drugstore. So she goes over

1056
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 1: to an aisle and get them vasili and it's try

1057
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: to like wedge this kid's fingers out. But you know

1058
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: what happens, like when you get a ring stuck and

1059
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: you're trying to take the ring off, right, it just

1060
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: gets more and more swollen the more you're trying to

1061
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: play with it and get it off, And that's what happened.

1062
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: So that was just like not happening. So finally they

1063
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: got a Target employee to try to help, and they

1064
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: couldn't do anything, and they had to call nine one

1065
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: one have the fire company come, and the kid was

1066
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 1: freaking out and they had to cut the car out

1067
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: around the kid's hand and they finally got the kid free. Okay,

1068
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: So this is my problem with the story is because

1069
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: she is arguing that Target needs to change the design

1070
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: of their car. But I would argue that it's common

1071
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: knowledge that you don't put children in that part of

1072
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: the basket. I actually think you're not allowed to. There's

1073
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: signs in the car. I don't know if there's signs

1074
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 1: in the Target cards specifically, but other shorts have signs

1075
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 1: that say do not put children in the main part

1076
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: of the cart. All right, well, this lady already is

1077
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 1: kind of I have feelings about her because she said, quote,

1078
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: I had to call my husband because I couldn't deal

1079
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: with the stress of it by myself.

1080
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 2: Like, get a life, lady, come on.

1081
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: Also, just like if you can't deal with that, like

1082
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: wait until you have a teenager or something like, this

1083
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,240
Speaker 1: is really not a problem. But she and yes agreed,

1084
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: like I am a Target shopper, especially when the kids

1085
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 1: were little. They have a cart that is very bulky

1086
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: to push around, but it has two seats up front,

1087
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: so you could put both of the kids in it

1088
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: with seat belts and everything like that.

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Speaker 2: That goes you know that thing I'm talking about that, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I know exactly what you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: So they're like, yeah, this is absolutely not Target's fault

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00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: at all. Okay, it's it's really not Target's fault. And

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00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but like she took all these pictures too,

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00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: of the first responder to get in the kid of car,

1095
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: and then you put them on the internet like that

1096
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: shouldn't be where your priorities are, and then blaming Target

1097
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: when it's convion knowledge as somebody who is not a mother,

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00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: that you don't put a baby in that compartment of

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00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 1: their car. There there are I could say that there's

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00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: probably even so many people listening to us right now

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00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,280
Speaker 1: that go to Target every single day with their kids,

1102
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,479
Speaker 1: and like, you don't hear about this happening all the time.

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00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: It's just the Targets I think had the same exact

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00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: cart for probably twenty years plus two so and this

1105
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: is the first time this is coming out that this happened.

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00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 2: I don't know all right.

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00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: Back in twenty twenty two, this teenager was on one

1108
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: of those free fall rides at an amusement park in Florida.

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00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: His safety restraints did not fully lock in place, which

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00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: caused him to fall out of the ride, falling to

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00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,800
Speaker 1: his death. And now a jury has determined that the

1112
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: ride makers must pay over three hundred million dollars in

1113
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: damages to his family. I think that is well deserved.

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00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: This was terrible when this happened. I don't know if

1115
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: you guys remember about this. But I have a post

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00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: in the gross room called free Fallen. It was from

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00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: One, twenty two, twenty two.

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00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: Okay, so this fourth so I have the video of

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00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: the whole entire thing happening, and when you look at it,

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00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 1: any person looking at it is going to be like,

1122
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: why the hell did they ever let this kid.

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00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 2: On the ride?

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00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: So, even though we're talking about a fourteen year old child,

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00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: when you see this kid getting on the ride with

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00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: his friends, he's clearly just like one of these huge

1127
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: football player looking like kids that is really really a

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00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 1: lot taller and a lot bigger, and he's he was obese,

1129
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: he was just a lot bigger. And when you see

1130
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: him on this ride next to these other people, you're like,

1131
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:41,720
Speaker 1: clearly he doesn't fit on the ride. He has this harness,

1132
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 1: you know, the harness that they put over the shoulders.

1133
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, he has that.

1134
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: Every other kid that's strapped into the ride, it's like

1135
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: going down to their thighs, and on him, it's like

1136
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: hanging at the top of his belly because it can't

1137
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 1: even reach.

1138
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 2: Over his shoulders.

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00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: It looks like you're looking at it like this is

1140
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: ridiculou right, and there's so the guy that's checking the

1141
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 1: ride goes around the checks half the ride, but not

1142
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: all the ride, And as it's lifting up, people are

1143
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: yelling at the ride operator like, hey, are you going

1144
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 1: to check people at the other side of the ride.

1145
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: They go up and this So this ride goes up

1146
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 1: four hundred feet and drops. It's like the free fall

1147
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: ride and it goes down seventy five miles an hour.

1148
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 1: So as soon as it goes up and it starts dropping,

1149
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: the kid flies out of the harness because he's not

1150
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: strapped in and falls to his death in front of everyone.

1151
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 2: It was so terrible.

1152
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: The video is really disturbing too, because there is a

1153
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: video of him falling out of the ride, and it

1154
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: seems like he fell out so quickly and fell to

1155
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: his death that he didn't even he didn't even scream

1156
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:45,720
Speaker 1: or anything.

1157
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 2: He didn't even know what was happening.

1158
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: And when first responders came and they're you know, all

1159
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: of this stuff is recorded, they were saying that they

1160
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: weren't able to really flip him over easily to do

1161
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 1: CPR because they said he was at least three hundred pounds,

1162
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: So I don't know if that was I mean, that's

1163
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: just an estimate by people on the ground. But all

1164
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying is like when you watch this video, and

1165
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: this needs to be a thing now because so much,

1166
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 1: so many more people are obese that they need to

1167
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 1: be They have to have restrictions at rides, even though

1168
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: it might offend people. He might have got upset if

1169
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: they turned him away, but at the same time he'd

1170
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: still be alive. Well, I think we need to have

1171
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: a conversation too about teenagers operating these rides, because how

1172
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: many accidents do we, you know, talk about and it

1173
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: ends up being like a sixteen year old running this

1174
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: ride that's extremely dangerous for humans to be on, and

1175
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: they don't check the restraint, they don't hear when people

1176
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: are calling for help, and most of the time they're like, hi,

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00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: of course they are because they're working at a theme

1178
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: park and like that's what you do with you to

1179
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: a teenager. So yeah, I think the settlement is good

1180
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 1: for the family. It said they also reported a settlement

1181
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: between the theme park and the ride operators, so this

1182
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: was specifically about ride makers And yeah, I mean I think, no,

1183
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 1: I don't really think it has anything to do with

1184
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: the ride itself. I just think, I mean, I don't

1185
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: know the details of the case, but just looking at it,

1186
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: it's like it doesn't seem like it was a problem

1187
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: for anyone else. It just was they just really need

1188
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: to maybe clearly they found them responsible for something, or

1189
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Speaker 1: they wouldn't have vage O.

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Speaker 2: I know they.

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00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I would think it was more just the

1192
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: operator of the ride. But I mean, this kid, he

1193
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: was only fourteen years old. So if if the adults

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00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: in the room are telling him it's okay to go

1195
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 1: on the ride and letting him sit down, then how

1196
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: would he know. I mean, he knew it didn't fit correctly,

1197
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: But kids are fourteen years old, don't understand seventy five

1198
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: miles an hour with that thing over your shoulder is

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00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 1: not holding you down.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean. Yeah, So, yeah, really sad case.

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00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 2: I felt so terrible when that happened.

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Speaker 2: Okay, true crime.

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00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: So a Missouri couple has been arrested after performing a

1219
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: botched circumcision on their child in their house.

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00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 2: What's wrong with people using a box cutter? Oh? Disgusting?

1221
00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 2: Like all right, So, so they did this at their house,

1222
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 2: and they brought their.

1223
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: Kid to the hospital because clearly it didn't go right

1224
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: when they thought it was going to. And then they

1225
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 1: got tired of waiting, so they left against medical advisement

1226
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: from the staff.

1227
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:13,439
Speaker 2: So they have a bunch of kids.

1228
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 1: They had five other kids maybe or something so or

1229
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: maybe that including that kid, five kids at least, and

1230
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: did they try to do this on the other kids.

1231
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 2: Did they successfully do this? Like why were they doing this?

1232
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 2: I don't know. They didn't even say how old the

1233
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 2: kid was. The kid could have been fourteen.

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00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: They said it was a kid under eighteen, So we

1235
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: don't even know if it was a baby or not.

1236
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 2: But yep, but yeah, they brought the kid.

1237
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 1: So the dad said he did it with a box

1238
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 1: cutter and was surprised how much bleeding there was, so

1239
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: took them to the hospital. And there at the hospital,

1240
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: like Maria said, they had to wait for hours and.

1241
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 2: They were like, yeah, we're not waiting him more. So

1242
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 2: they went home.

1243
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: What what gave the tip off to the authorities about this, Well,

1244
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: I guess the medical staff at the hospital alerted, like

1245
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 1: Child protect Services and said that something was fishy. And

1246
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: then when they got to the house, they asked the

1247
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: parents about it, and they didn't even deny it. They

1248
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: said they did it. They asked the dad about how

1249
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: he did it. He said with a box cutter, and

1250
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: then when they asked if he had any medical training,

1251
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 1: he said he didn't, but he conducted research and prayed

1252
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: for a blessing.

1253
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just.

1254
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: Doesn't make any sense to me. It wasn't associated with

1255
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 1: like a religious thing or whatever. I don't know why

1256
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: anybody would do that with a box cutter anyway.

1257
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 2: That's just so gross.

1258
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 1: This kid's lucky he's not going to have permanent issues

1259
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 1: with it, between an infection or just having too much

1260
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 1: skin cut off or whatever. And we don't know he might,

1261
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: but they took the kids away from the parents for now.

1262
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:49,959
Speaker 1: So yeah, so both the mother and father were charged

1263
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: with child abuse and the dad has an additional charge

1264
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 1: of performing unauthorized surgery, which is insane. Think about being

1265
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: an adult and being like my parents performed surgery on

1266
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 1: me when I was a little kid in my house.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean some cultures do that. They're not surgeons.

1268
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm just saying it's not like I understand

1269
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: that there's like more of a ceremony and everything that

1270
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 1: goes with that, but you know, it's still it could happen,

1271
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: and there's been there's issues with those sometimes too, you know.

1272
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't.

1273
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 1: Understand what the point of doing this is. I mean,

1274
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 1: you know, like I'm anti circumcision anyway, so I don't

1275
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: understand what the point of this is ever, but definitely

1276
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 1: not to do at home with a box cutter. No never, Okay,

1277
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: medical news. Back in the summer of twenty twenty two,

1278
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 1: this woman went to the hospital because she felt that

1279
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: something was stuck in her eye. So the doctors had

1280
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: examined her. They noticed some irritation, sent her on her

1281
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 1: way with eyedrops.

1282
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 2: A couple of weeks.

1283
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: Later, it didn't get better, so they then numbed her

1284
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: eye to take a closer look.

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01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 2: And what did they find. They found live parasites, little

1286
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 2: white worms squirming or in her eye.

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01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 1: I can't even see them. How horrible this is. It

1288
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 1: is disgusting. I don't really like eyeball content in general,

1289
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 1: but like the thought of worms being in your eye

1290
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: parasite something moving around is horrible. So this post is

1291
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 1: in the grocer room and it's called I See why

1292
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: And you can fathom them. How terrible it is because

1293
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 1: you could see the video of them extracting them from

1294
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 1: her eye.

1295
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 2: Did you say it?

1296
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 1: I saw that you posted it, and then I started

1297
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: watching it and saw where it was going, so then

1298
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Speaker 1: I couldn't handle it. So this particular parasite is called thlasia,

1299
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 1: and this occurs in domestic carnivores like cats and dogs,

1300
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: and it could usually be transmitted while we should say

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01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: rarely transmitted from two humans. So it's called a zoonotic disease.

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Speaker 1: It's one that goes from animals to humans.

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Speaker 2: Via a fly.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so they question this lady and they say like, hey,

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01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 1: have there been flies in your house? Like how did

1306
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: you get this kind of thing?

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01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 1: And she's like, well, my cat did have a similar

1309
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 1: discharge and itchiness to their eye, but that's it. So

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Speaker 1: then okay, doctors are like, Okay, she got it from

1311
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: her cat somehow, right, And then they wanted to test

1312
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: her cat to see if her cat had the same thing,

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01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 1: and she refused to get the.

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Speaker 2: Cat to tested.

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Speaker 1: Why would you deny them from looking at the cat?

1316
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 1: Like did she think they were possibly possibly going to

1317
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 1: put it down or something? Yeah, that's what I would think,

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01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 1: Like this happened in China, and I don't know what

1319
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 1: their procedure is when there's things like this that happened,

1320
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: but she was you know, if this happened in America,

1321
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 1: they would test the animal and treat the animal and

1322
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 1: then send the animal back to your house if there

1323
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 1: was no signs of neglect or abuse with the animal, right,

1324
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 1: but there who knows what they do, right, Like, they

1325
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 1: might take the cat away, and maybe she just didn't.

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01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 1: She didn't want to do that, you know, the problem

1327
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 1: is is that they extracted all of these parasites out

1328
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: of her eye and they treated her. But like, if

1329
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 1: the hat doesn't ever get treated, then she just risks

1330
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 1: getting it again, you know what I mean, Because she's

1331
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 1: she's probably cleaning this goo off the cat's eye and

1332
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 1: then like not washing her hands properly and touching her

1333
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 1: eye or however she's getting it.

1334
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 2: I don't freaking know what she's doing.

1335
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's so the craziest part of this case

1336
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 1: is that not only is their video of them extracting

1337
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 1: these worms out of her eye, but then they put

1338
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 1: they get a microscope slide and they put sterol saline

1339
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: on the slide and they put the worms in this

1340
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 1: like drop of sterol saline, and you could see the

1341
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 1: worm like squiggling around, and you're just like, oh my god,

1342
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 1: imagine this is exactly why this lady was like freaking

1343
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 1: the hell out about her eye and having this like

1344
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 1: foreign body sensation.

1345
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 2: Could you imagine that? No, not at all, Like, I shit,

1346
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 2: is the worst. I can't stand it all.

1347
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: Right, before we get in this next story, can you

1348
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 1: talk about the condition that's known as were wolf syndrome.

1349
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's.

1350
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 1: Really really rare, and it's called hypertrichosis. You've probably seen

1351
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 1: it the news that there's these people that actually kind

1352
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 1: of are human, but they look like werewolfs. They have

1353
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 1: hair growing in places that most humans don't have hair growing,

1354
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 1: like on their cheeks and their forehead, and they they

1355
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: kind of look like a werewolf and that's where it

1356
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: comes from. But it's really rare, and they've.

1357
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 2: Been seeing a lot of increased cases of it recently.

1358
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, at first and I was like,

1359
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 1: get pictures of this. I thought about Luccia because she's

1360
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 1: so the artist. The article was saying that it can

1361
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 1: make you grow hair and make you look like a wookie,

1362
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: which is actually a nickname we call Lucia because she's

1363
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 1: just like this cute little furry hair while you know,

1364
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 1: she's like yeah, and she's Italian and she's just got well.

1365
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 1: So the picture in the article has a picture of

1366
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 1: a kid's back that's really hairy, and then underneath it's

1367
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 1: like hypertrichosis and they can look like a wookie d

1368
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 1: quote and I screenshot that whole thing incided to Gabe

1369
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 1: this morning and I was just like, oh my god,

1370
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 1: because we I pour little wook Wook. So so yeah, that's

1371
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 1: one of the little nicknames that we've had for Lucia

1372
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 1: since she was a little kid.

1373
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 2: But this is a little bit more extreme.

1374
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 1: This is just how I mean, you see guys on

1375
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 1: the beach that have hair on their back, and then

1376
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 1: this is like having as much hair on your head

1377
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 1: on areas of your body that you normally wouldn't have hair. Yeah,

1378
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 1: so they're saying in Spain, since the Middle Ages, there's

1379
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 1: been less than one hundred documented cases, and in just

1380
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 1: the last year they have nearly a dozen documented cases,

1381
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 1: and they think it's related to this common hair loss

1382
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 1: over the counter medication that people are using, yeah, monoxidal

1383
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 1: or it's like rogine. Okay, okay, so this is this

1384
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 1: is my only question. So so they've done all of

1385
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 1: these studies now to find out that there are certain

1386
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 1: children that all of a sudden would have all of

1387
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 1: this hair all over their body hypertrichosis. And when they did,

1388
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 1: when they found out like what was going on in

1389
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 1: their families. It was like there was always some caregiver

1390
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 1: that was using this product and they thought that that

1391
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 1: was what was causing it.

1392
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 2: So in one case, one.

1393
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 1: Of the dads had alopecia and he was using the

1394
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 1: monoxidol for that, and then when he discontinued it, the

1395
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 1: child like lost the hair and didn't have the symptoms anymore.

1396
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 1: So they're just making So when I first read this story,

1397
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 1: I thought they were saying that before conception, the father

1398
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 1: was taking this medication which then gave the child this problem.

1399
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 1: But it's seeming like they're using this topical cream and

1400
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 1: then touching the kids at the same time, which is

1401
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 1: then transferring over. Yeah, there's there's somehow a transfer from

1402
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 1: the topical cream. And my question is is that people

1403
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 1: have been using this for like twenty plus years.

1404
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 2: I don't even know how.

1405
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I remember seeing advertisements for Real Game when

1406
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 1: I was a kid. It's been around for a long time,

1407
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 1: So why is it all of a sudden This year alone,

1408
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 1: eleven cases, It just seemed it just seems unusual to me.

1409
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:05,439
Speaker 1: And plus so many people use it in America too.

1410
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 1: I actually used it once because after and it's funny

1411
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 1: because I was thinking, like, did I use that with Luchaya?

1412
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 2: But why would she still be hairy? You know what

1413
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 2: I mean?

1414
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 1: But I did use it because I got extensions once

1415
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 1: and big chunks of my hair fell out. And when

1416
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 1: I went to the dermatologist and just asked them about that,

1417
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 1: they were just like, oh, use like rogaine, It'll make

1418
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 1: it grow back. And it did, which is insane. So

1419
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 1: I did use it once for a short per like

1420
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 1: for a couple of months or whatever. But it's just

1421
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 1: it's just really lots of people use it.

1422
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:38,479
Speaker 2: All the time.

1423
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 1: So why is this just happening in eleven kids as

1424
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 1: opposed to all these people that use rogaine all the time.

1425
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

1426
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 1: I find it weird that you can just like have

1427
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 1: an ointment on your skin and then hold a baby

1428
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden they get hairy.

1429
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 2: Okay.

1430
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 1: Other death news, So the World's most Dangerous toy has

1431
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 1: hit auction. Fewer than five foul of these have been made,

1432
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 1: so they're quite valuable. But basically, back in the fifties,

1433
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 1: this guy, Alfred Carlton Gilbert created the Gilbert You two

1434
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 1: thirty eight Atomic Energy Laboratory, which was marketed towards children

1435
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 1: who are interested in science, and this kit has real

1436
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 1: uranium in it, and now it's up for auction. So

1437
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,640
Speaker 1: we did a post in the grocerym back in twenty

1438
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:24,640
Speaker 1: twenty three that was all about the injuries that you

1439
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 1: could get from different types of toys, and it was

1440
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 1: a it's a special Christmas post and we'll talk about

1441
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 1: a lot of that in our upcoming Christmas special, which

1442
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 1: is next week, next week, next week.

1443
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1444
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 1: So, but this is one of the toys that we

1445
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 1: talked about because this is obviously like nineteen fifties.

1446
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 2: Just get your kids some uranium, you know.

1447
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 1: The problem is is that in the nineteen fifties they

1448
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 1: knew the dangers of radioactive materials, and so it was

1449
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 1: weird that they were selling it to children when they

1450
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 1: knew that it could make you sick and kill you. Yeah,

1451
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 1: but all right, so this toy can came out in

1452
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 1: nineteen fifty and then within a year was banned because

1453
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 1: of danger. But they knew when it was when it

1454
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 1: came out that it wasn't that it wasn't good. You know,

1455
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 1: like short term exposure of it can make you sick.

1456
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 1: But if you have like if a kid has that

1457
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 1: and they're playing with it for a long term. It

1458
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:22,799
Speaker 1: could really damage the DNA and it could cause leukemia

1459
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 1: or something down the road. Like this is like really

1460
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 1: bad shit, not to mention just the kid, anybody that

1461
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:32,639
Speaker 1: is exposed to it. So I'm actually surprised that any

1462
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 1: of these are kind of still hanging around and ones

1463
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 1: for sale.

1464
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:38,640
Speaker 2: And did you see how much it's for? Yeah, there is.

1465
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 1: As of the recording of this, there is sixteen bids

1466
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 1: and it was up to twelve thousand dollars. I mean,

1467
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:46,599
Speaker 1: it is kind of cool to be like, oh, I

1468
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 1: have this uranium in my house, but you don't really

1469
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 1: want radiation stuff around you like that. They're saying that

1470
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 1: if the containers stay sealed, it's as much radiation as

1471
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 1: you would get from UV exposure. But like that's bad,

1472
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 1: So you don't even risk it. Why would you even

1473
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 1: want that? But if but if someone opens it, like

1474
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:08,640
Speaker 1: it could be really bad. I just don't understand, like

1475
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 1: this should be in in like a science museum, locked

1476
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 1: up behind some kind of lead glass or so. I

1477
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 1: don't know, that could just like make it more safe

1478
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 1: for it to be.

1479
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 2: Viewed or something. I don't know. I just think this

1480
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 2: is a terrible idea.

1481
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 1: How are they gonna ship it? Why would the auction

1482
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 1: house want to handle it? How are they gonna ship it?

1483
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 1: Do you know how it was stored for the last

1484
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 1: seventy years? Where did it come from? You have to

1485
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 1: ask mailman Mike about this, like, yeah, because they can't.

1486
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 2: They can't ship it.

1487
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 1: I mean like in theory they could ship it and

1488
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 1: just not say what was in it, but that wouldn't

1489
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 1: be cool for the person that's uh. We have to

1490
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 1: ask him if there's any stories, because he's been a

1491
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 1: malman forever, Like if there's any stories of Postman like

1492
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 1: having finding out that they were carrying like a human

1493
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 1: head or I told you that once, right, And when

1494
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 1: I was working in the hospital, you got a brain

1495
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 1: set like I don't know if it was courrier or

1496
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:04,599
Speaker 1: set in the mail or whatever.

1497
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 2: I don't remember. We got a brain that for one

1498
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 2: of our neuropathologists to look at.

1499
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 1: And when the guy handed me the box, I was

1500
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 1: kind of like, do you know what's in this box?

1501
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 1: And he was like no, And I was like, it's

1502
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 1: a brain, like a human brain, and he was like,

1503
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 1: are you joking? I was like, no, it's it really

1504
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 1: is there's a brain in here? Like it just was

1505
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 1: so funny.

1506
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, how do you not know that you're holding

1507
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 2: like someone's brain in this box right now?

1508
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 1: But yeah, so I'm curious with mail and stuff like that.

1509
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 1: If he's ever had any like crazy stories of like

1510
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 1: transporting anything crazy, well, fitting ends tomorrow. So if what

1511
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,560
Speaker 1: if you were interested, you get head over to the

1512
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 1: auction site and see if you could get a chance

1513
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 1: to get this thing, which I would not advise, but

1514
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 1: some people clearly don't care. All right, let's move on

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Speaker 1: to question to the day. Every Friday at the at

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Speaker 1: Mother Nose Death Instagram account, we put a question box

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Speaker 1: up in the story. You, guys, ask whatever you want First.

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Speaker 1: What makes you more interested in natural pathology versus forensic

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01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:11,679
Speaker 1: I think natural pathology is more exciting to me because

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01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 1: I think it's more relatable. It's certainly more relatable to

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01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 1: me because I don't I've known a couple people, honestly

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01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 1: that have been murdered or had it. Forensics a way

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01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 1: of death and injury, but more commonly, I think most

1524
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 1: of us could agree that we know everyone that deals

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01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 1: with some kind of natural pathology, including your own self.

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01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 1: So I think it's more interesting, and it's it's more

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01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 1: it's I don't want, I don't know how to say

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01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 1: the word it's spontaneous, it's it's it's just it's just

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01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 1: more interesting to me than forensics. I think forensics there's

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01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 1: just a certain amount of things that you're going to

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01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:51,600
Speaker 1: see that and I don't really like a lot of

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01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 1: the stories that go around it. Like, for example, we

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01:12:56,160 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 1: talk about all these terrible stories here, but I don't

1534
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 1: have to do the autopsies on these people and the

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01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 1: surgical specimens and have any interaction with their families or anything,

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01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 1: and like be able to feel the real human element

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01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 1: of it. So I think that I'm really I'm interested

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01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 1: in forensics to talk about it like that, but to

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01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 1: actually be doing the autopsies, which I have been involved

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01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 1: with when I was training are it's just a lot

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01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 1: different when you're actually involved with it, and sad it's

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01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 1: just like a kind of depressing day every day. And

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01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 1: I feel like with natural pathology, it's like there's a

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01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:32,719
Speaker 1: lot of it is like you can't really do anything

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01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:34,720
Speaker 1: about it. It just happens and you kind of got

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01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 1: a roll with it. So I don't know that's why

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01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 1: I just find it a little bit more interesting. All Right,

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01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 1: what does ACP mean after your name? American Society for

1549
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 1: Clinical Pathology. So that is after we go to PA school.

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01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 1: So you have to if you're going to be a

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01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 1: PA or a pathologist assistant, you have to go to

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01:13:55,760 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 1: an accredited school that is allowed to teach the pathologists

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01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 1: Assistant program and once you finish that program, so that

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01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 1: would be a master's degree.

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01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 2: I think all of the programs are master's degrees. At

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01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 2: this point.

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01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 1: You have to take a test to be a certified PA.

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01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 1: So if you don't take the test, then technically you're

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01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:18,599
Speaker 1: not a PA. And that is through the American Society

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01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 1: of Clinical Pathology. So not only do we have to

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01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:24,759
Speaker 1: take a test when we graduate, but every three years

1562
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 1: we have to renew our certification by taking CMEs or

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01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 1: continuing medical Education credits to recertify. So I just did

1564
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 1: mine right this year in August? Yeah, yeah, because I

1565
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 1: always am like crunching at the end. But yeah, so

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01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 1: I'm good for the next three years or so to

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01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 1: renew that. All right, last, what decided for both of

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01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 1: you that your husband was the one you want to

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01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 1: go first?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 1: I think it's one of those corny things like just

1572
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 1: when you know you know type of deal. It's not

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01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 1: like this magical moment happens like in a Hallmark movie

1574
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 1: or something where you realize it. I think you just

1575
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:13,280
Speaker 1: realize how good and organic your chemistry is. For me,

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01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 1: something I was seeking and my long term significant other

1577
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 1: was I wanted to have a lot of same interests

1578
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 1: but also a lot of different ones, because what fun

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01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 1: is it going out with the same exact person as yourself.

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01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:29,639
Speaker 1: And I think part of growing a life with somebody

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01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 1: is like taking on new interests or learning about something

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01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 1: else and sharing different things you guys are interested in

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01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:39,639
Speaker 1: with each other. I also think, you know, the biggest

1584
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 1: contributing factor is being with somebody that's loyal and that

1585
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 1: you trust, and that genuinely loves you and cares about

1586
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 1: your well being and your family. And I saw all

1587
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 1: of those things in Ricky and very quickly, and I

1588
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 1: kind of just knew right away that we you know,

1589
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:55,720
Speaker 1: I couldn't predict two weeks into dating that we were

1590
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 1: going to get married or anything, but I knew he

1591
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 1: was really good and awesome for me pretty quickly into

1592
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 1: going out. Yeah, I mean, I'm like different than Maria,

1593
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:08,599
Speaker 1: because I'm like a right away person and like lots

1594
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 1: of people in my Maybe Maria can't speak for that

1595
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 1: because she was only thirteen and she didn't really like

1596
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 1: understand the full depths of dating and relationships at that point.

1597
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 2: But like if you ask people that.

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01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 1: Were in my life around that time when I met Gabe,

1599
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 1: like my mom or maybe like Aunt Crisper Andrea, all

1600
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 1: these people will say like she one hundred percent knew

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01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:31,759
Speaker 1: that she loved him, like the very first.

1602
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:32,559
Speaker 2: Day that she met him.

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01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:35,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, like they will one hundred percent say that, And

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01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 1: I can't really explain it. It's just like prior to

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01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 1: being with Gabe, I was in a relationship for like

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01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 1: years before that, and it's just like and and other

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01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 1: relationships too, And I just think that once I just

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01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 1: met him, it just I just felt different, Like I

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01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 1: felt like this connection that I never wanted to be

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01:16:57,200 --> 01:17:00,679
Speaker 1: away from him, and it just was like this feeling

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01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 1: of no one else could quite just ever be what

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01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 1: he is in my life and what I feel of him.

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01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 1: There were times when we first started dating because like

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01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 1: it just didn't go like normal relationship stuff, just because

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01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 1: he was just like so weird and we broke We

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01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:23,919
Speaker 1: broke up in the beginning there just because I couldn't

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01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 1: deal with his weirdness. And then as soon as I

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01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 1: would leave him, it just I just I would try

1619
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:31,439
Speaker 1: to date other people and stuff, and I'm just like,

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01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 1: I just like I feel like this missing thing in

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01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 1: my life, like it just has to be him. There's

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01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 1: no other shoes that could fill that. And I always

1623
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 1: think about that too, like if anything ever happened to him,

1624
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 1: because like a lot of like my one aunt lost

1625
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:49,759
Speaker 1: her husband when Aunt Terry, when she was young.

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01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 2: Pretty young.

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01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 1: I think she was still in her fifties maybe or

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01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 1: like her late fifties, and she never got remarried and

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01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:57,680
Speaker 1: she's in her eighties now, you know, and you just

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01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:00,080
Speaker 1: I just think, like I just don't ever think that

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01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 1: I could ever meet any person that would even be

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01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:06,800
Speaker 1: to that level of like what how I feel about him?

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01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:07,639
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that, and I think, you

1635
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 1: know it, I feel like so corny saying this, but

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01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 1: I think there's just like a feeling you get around

1637
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 1: the person that you've never felt in your life, and

1638
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 1: you know, nobody else in the world can make you

1639
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:21,639
Speaker 1: feel that way.

1640
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,679
Speaker 2: And like when you get those type of feelings.

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01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:26,960
Speaker 1: I think that's when you know, like, this is your person,

1642
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 1: because I'm very convinced that a lot of people just

1643
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 1: get married to, you know, whoever's seemingly check the box,

1644
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,919
Speaker 1: check the box looks good in your Facebook pictures, whatever,

1645
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 1: and they're not like genuinely in love with each other,

1646
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 1: like your husband should also be your best friend, and

1647
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 1: like that's how I feel about it. I don't think

1648
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 1: other people feel that way, but that's how I.

1649
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 2: Feel about it.

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01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 1: And you know, you can just tell the difference, like

1651
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 1: you just know when you know, you genuinely know it's

1652
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:59,720
Speaker 1: not you shouldn't ever have to question like should I

1653
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 1: be marrying this person? Like you should not at all? Well,

1654
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 1: I think, I always say one of one of the

1655
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 1: biggest warning signs I see with some people is when

1656
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:11,599
Speaker 1: they get so obsessed with like what kind of ring

1657
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 1: they get and what kind of big, huge wedding they're

1658
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 1: going to get, and you're just like, do you want

1659
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 1: do you really like love this guy? Because that's will

1660
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 1: That's like always the advice I'll give to somebody, like

1661
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 1: if this guy couldn't really afford to give you a

1662
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 1: good ring, and you just had to get married by

1663
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 1: like the mayor. Would you still want to marry this person?

1664
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:34,559
Speaker 1: Would you you know, would that be okay with you?

1665
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 1: That's why I look at it like that, because I

1666
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 1: think a lot of women, especially get wrapped up with

1667
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 1: like having these weddings that I'll do their friend's weddings

1668
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 1: and things like that. And you know, one of the

1669
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 1: things with marriage is that I could say, like when

1670
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 1: I got married at Gabe almost eleven years ago, now

1671
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:56,640
Speaker 1: our relationship is like a hundred times different than it

1672
01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 1: was then, and in another eleven years it's going to

1673
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 1: be one hundred times different again. So you have to

1674
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 1: be with a person that's like constantly evolving with you,

1675
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 1: because like, I've been through so much in the past

1676
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 1: eleven years, and Gabe's been through so much in the

1677
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:12,240
Speaker 1: past eleven years, and like, if we're not on the

1678
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 1: same page and always changing and supporting each other, then

1679
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 1: then that's when things start falling apart. You know. I

1680
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 1: think you also need to be with somebody that has

1681
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 1: no problem calling you out on your shit, because like,

1682
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:26,599
Speaker 1: you just can't act like crazy and let.

1683
01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 2: It go on. You need somebody to put you in check.

1684
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 1: And I think that's very important, and obviously communication is

1685
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 1: very important.

1686
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 2: Check too much, too much. He puts everybody in check. Thought,

1687
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:41,599
Speaker 2: He's like the what do the girls say?

1688
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:44,560
Speaker 1: He is elected? But he called they call him the lecturer.

1689
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 1: He is a lecturer. But no, But yeah, so I

1690
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 1: don't know. I would say, like, like, genuinely, it's intuition.

1691
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 1: You really just know when you know that it's the

1692
01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 1: person you're supposed to be with. It just doesn't feel

1693
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:02,000
Speaker 1: like anything else you've ever vote before. Yeah, And I

1694
01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 1: can say that for sure because I was almost thirty

1695
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 1: when I met Gabe, and I started dating when I

1696
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 1: was like fifteen years old. I've been around the block,

1697
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 1: you know, And I'm like, I just like it just

1698
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 1: was different with him, Like it just like this internal

1699
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 1: drives me crazy thing.

1700
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 2: I don't know how to explain it. Like I never

1701
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 2: had that with anyone else.

1702
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 1: And there were times before him that I felt like

1703
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:25,800
Speaker 1: I loved a person I was with, and I was

1704
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 1: with a person for a while, but a lot of

1705
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:30,320
Speaker 1: the times it was kind of like I like this

1706
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:33,479
Speaker 1: situation or I like, there's like this famous episode of

1707
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:36,600
Speaker 1: Sex in the City where Carrie's dating this guy that

1708
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 1: she doesn't really like, but she loves his mom. I

1709
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:41,759
Speaker 1: had one of those boyfriends too, Like this guy dated

1710
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:44,680
Speaker 1: when I was like seventeen.

1711
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 2: Or something for two years. He sucked so bad. He sucked.

1712
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:50,800
Speaker 2: He actually wasn't cute at all, not my type at all.

1713
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 1: And but I loved his mom so much and she

1714
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 1: loved me, and I loved like his dad. I loved

1715
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 1: the family and going over there and like I used

1716
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:00,799
Speaker 1: to do her nails and like all this stuff.

1717
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 2: And then like you're in love with this situation, but

1718
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 2: you're just like, if he was just different, this would

1719
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 2: be perfect.

1720
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 1: But like you know, that happens all the time. There's

1721
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:11,720
Speaker 1: always like every relationship you're in, there's like this.

1722
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 2: Butt and you know, I don't know. Yeah, But all right,

1723
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:21,679
Speaker 2: that's our stories. Thank you guys. We'll see you later

1724
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:22,240
Speaker 2: in the week.

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Speaker 1: Sayah, thank you for listening to mother nos Death. As

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01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:33,439
Speaker 1: a reminder, my training is as a pathologists assistant. I

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01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:36,920
Speaker 1: have a master's level education and specialize in anatomy and

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Speaker 1: pathology education. I am not a doctor and I have

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Speaker 1: not diagnosed or treated anyone dead or alive without the

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Speaker 1: assistance of a licensed medical doctor. This show, my website,

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Speaker 1: and social media accounts are designed to educate and inform

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Speaker 1: people based on my experience working in pathology, so they

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Speaker 1: can make healthier decisions regarding their life and well being.

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Speaker 1: Always remember that science is changing every day and the

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Speaker 1: opinions expressed in this episode are based on my knowledge

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Speaker 1: of those subjects at the time of publication. If you

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Speaker 1: are having a medical problem, have a medical question, or

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Speaker 1: having a medical emergency, please contact your physician or visit

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Speaker 1: an urgent care center, emergency room.

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Speaker 2: Or hospital.

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Speaker 1: or anywhere you get podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Thanks