Speaker 1: Now let's get to Washington.
Speaker 2: In an early look at the race for the White
Speaker 2: House in twenty twenty eight, according to the Wall Street Journal,
Speaker 2: sources close to AOC say she isn't ruling out the
Speaker 2: possibility of a president to run. The Democrats suffered major
Speaker 2: losses in the November election, as everybody in their grandmama knows,
Speaker 2: and the party is frankly struggling to find a strategy
Speaker 2: to take on President Trump and his policies. AOC, who
Speaker 2: is thirty five years of age, has emerged as a
Speaker 2: leading voice for Democrats, but some within the party are
Speaker 2: concerned she'll turn off centrist voters who are needed in
Speaker 2: the swing states that Trump swept in November. For the record,
Speaker 2: they are absolutely right, she will turn off centrist I
Speaker 2: am not casting any aspersions on this young lady. I
Speaker 2: think that if you are a Democrat, if you are
Speaker 2: a leftist who rails against the system, who believes that
Speaker 2: free market capitalism spearheaded by billionaires is not the way
Speaker 2: to go, if you believe that not enough attention is
Speaker 2: being paid attention to the desolate and disenfranchised, if you
Speaker 2: believe that higher taxes is the way to go, that
Speaker 2: a focus shouldn't be on securing the borders.
Speaker 1: If you believe those kind.
Speaker 2: Of things, and that's where you stand ideologically, AOC is
Speaker 2: your candidate, no doubt about that. Here's what I will
Speaker 2: say to you. I have no questions about her heart
Speaker 2: and the place that it is in. I think that
Speaker 2: anyone that she represents knows that she's a fighter. She's
Speaker 2: a fighter for them poverished. She's a fighter for urban America.
Speaker 2: She's a fighter for union workers and things.
Speaker 1: Of that nature. I get that part.
Speaker 2: I'm just talking about whether or not it's a winning strategy.
Speaker 2: Most people in the country are centrist, their moderates, whether
Speaker 2: they're Republican moderates or Democratic nominates or moderates, or just
Speaker 2: flat out centrist to our independence. That's most of the
Speaker 2: American population. They are not Nagarite and they are not
Speaker 2: progressive left. She clearly is, and not to be literal,
Speaker 2: not to be taken literally, but she gives the impression
Speaker 2: that when you talk about universal health care, and you
Speaker 2: talk about other things, if it equated to taxing Americans
Speaker 2: seventy percent of their income, she wouldn't be against it.
Speaker 1: That ain't gonna win you elections.
Speaker 2: That's not gonna win you elections if you're living in
Speaker 2: this day and age and you're talking.
Speaker 1: About fighting for certain rights.
Speaker 2: Is in particular as it pertains to transgender individuals, athletes transitioning,
Speaker 2: and men competing in women's sports and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: which she's not about to speak against. If you think
Speaker 2: that's gonna win you an election, you've got your head
Speaker 2: in the sand.
Speaker 1: See.
Speaker 2: The real issue that I'm having right now with the
Speaker 2: Democratic Party is I'm waiting to hear what your plan is.
Speaker 2: It can't be we're just against all things Trump. What's
Speaker 2: your plan? What's your plan for the economy? What's your
Speaker 2: plan as it pertains to comprehensive immigration reform? What is
Speaker 2: your plan when it comes to foreign affairs? What is
Speaker 2: your plan as it pertains the Israeli Palestinian conflict or
Speaker 2: should I say.
Speaker 1: Israel with Hamas? What is your plan with Russia Ukraine?
Speaker 2: Is it just giving Ukraine more money like Bidom was
Speaker 2: willing to do?
Speaker 1: What are your plans? We got to pay attention to
Speaker 1: all of this stuff.
Speaker 2: Jobs in America, recidivism in our jails, all of these things.
Speaker 2: What's the plan? What's the plan as it pertains to
Speaker 2: the vast majority of Americans in this country. What is
Speaker 2: your plan? I don't have one yet. That's why I
Speaker 2: keep telling y'all if I ever run for the presidency,
Speaker 2: oh trust me, that's not a decision I'm going to
Speaker 2: make for years, for at least the next two years.
Speaker 1: And I sincerely hope that it's not me.
Speaker 2: You got a lot of people that look at Wes Moore,
Speaker 2: the governor of Maryland. They look at Joshapiro, the governor
Speaker 2: of Pennsylvania. That look at Gavin Newsom, the governor of California,
Speaker 2: that looks at Andrew Cormo, the former governor of New York,
Speaker 2: New York State, who's now running for mayor of the
Speaker 2: City of New York. The key operative word and all
Speaker 2: of that is governor, meaning you ran a state.
Speaker 1: As opposed to being one of four hundred and thirty.
Speaker 2: Five representatives whistling into the wind about what you think
Speaker 2: is wrong with this country.
Speaker 1: It'll equipped to do something about it because you're.
Speaker 2: Relatively limited, because you're only one voice of many.
Speaker 1: As in four hundred and thirty five. You got people
Speaker 1: talking about how she should run a Senate seat. Maybe
Speaker 1: that's true, Maybe she's just.
Speaker 2: Supplant Senator Chuck Schumer, who's been there for ages and
Speaker 2: people have been critical against because he sided with the
Speaker 2: Republicans a month ago instead of the Democrats. Either way
Speaker 2: you slice it, here's the point. Are you really just
Speaker 2: talking and railing against the establishment. Are you railing against
Speaker 2: the new establishment that is the MAGA wright led by Trump,
Speaker 2: or are you strategizing as it pertains to what's going
Speaker 2: to work. I saw her go on tour with Bernie Sanders. Okay,
Speaker 2: if that man mentions the word oligark one more time,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna lose my mind.
Speaker 1: He's been saying this since nineteen eighty three. Haven't you
Speaker 1: noticed that folks ain't buying that?
Speaker 2: Right now, you're having these rallies, flying on jets and
Speaker 2: doing all of these things, which is basically.
Speaker 1: The same kind of thing you've been complaining about.
Speaker 2: Where's the consistency, where's the abosence of hypocrisy?
Speaker 1: These are the kind of questions people are going to ask.
Speaker 1: Do you have the answer to that.
Speaker 2: Other than railing against the establishment. I've listened to Jasmine Crockett.
Speaker 2: Both AOC and Jasmin Crockett are welcomed on this show.
Speaker 2: I respect the hell out of both of them. I'm
Speaker 2: not here to disrespect anybody. I'm only talking about what
Speaker 2: strategy is going to work. When I hear Jasmine Crockett
Speaker 2: talking about how I'm just against all things and everything Trump,
Speaker 2: is that legislating. Isn't it an obligation that you have
Speaker 2: to come up with something.
Speaker 1: If the other party is in office.
Speaker 2: You have to go from thinking that you're going to
Speaker 2: get what you want if your party was in the
Speaker 2: White House and instead transitioning to how can I work
Speaker 2: with the other party to get some of what I
Speaker 2: want because I know I'm not going to get most
Speaker 2: of what I want because they won the election. How
Speaker 2: do we notice that was Obama's approach when he beat
Speaker 2: Senator John McCain for the presidency in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 2: That's what he said, I won, we won, It's our turn.
Speaker 2: I remember Mitch McConnell the Senate, the Republican senator, speak
Speaker 2: of the ouse. I'm sorry, speak of the Senate. I
Speaker 2: remember what Mitch McConnell said at that time. My goal
Speaker 2: is to make Obama one term president. That's not somebody
Speaker 2: that was willing.
Speaker 1: To work across the aisle. I'll get that.
Speaker 2: But it compromised the White House because ultimately the kind
Speaker 2: of power that they had in having a House, the
Speaker 2: Senate and the White House was lost a couple of
Speaker 2: years later. With what AOC is doing, with what Bernie
Speaker 2: Sanders is doing, and with what Jasmine Crockett is doing,
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's going to win you back
Speaker 2: one of the houses of Congress come twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2: What is your strategy? That's all I'm asking is a
Speaker 2: question for Democrats everywhere, because if you don't come up
Speaker 2: with an answer soon, Trump and his peeps are gonna
Speaker 2: answer it for you, and they're gonna win the mid
Speaker 2: terms in twenty twenty six, and then you'll really be
Speaker 2: up Shit's creek.