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<v Speaker 1>Happy Life Day. Everyone to longtime listeners of Stuff you

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<v Speaker 1>Should Know, or at least once who've been listening for just.

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<v Speaker 2>Over a year.

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<v Speaker 1>We released this episode the Star Wars Holiday Special every

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<v Speaker 1>year and it's kind of considered the official start of

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<v Speaker 1>the holiday season throughout the Western Hemisphere. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>are new to the podcast, well, then say hello to

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<v Speaker 1>your newest holiday tradition. Enjoy this year's annual holiday presentation

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<v Speaker 1>of the Star Wars Holiday Special, and let the holiday

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<v Speaker 1>season begin.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Stuff you Should Know, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark with

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<v Speaker 1>Charles W. Chuckers Bryant and Jerry Jerome Roland.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's the Wookie mother? Yeah, Mala, that was the Wookie wife.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and mother? Yeah sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Chewbacca's momb is not with them any longer.

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<v Speaker 3>She left.

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<v Speaker 2>She was not about to appear in that. She went

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<v Speaker 2>out the window. I'm excited about this.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say we should say Happy Star Wars Day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, today is December seventeenth. I have my opening night tickets.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you really sure? Wow? You know you into it? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I will definitely go see it in the theater.

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<v Speaker 1>But well, I won't be their opening night. Sure, I've

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<v Speaker 1>gotten really adept at like ignoring spoilers, people talking about

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<v Speaker 1>stuff all like, so I can. I could conceivably see

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<v Speaker 1>this movie a month after it comes out and still

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<v Speaker 1>going fresh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah I'm an ostrich. Yeah you black yourself out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you go dark. I do. I make myself go to

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<v Speaker 2>sleep face, you go to the dark side.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been there a while now.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Happy Star Wars Day though, I'm sure that I

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<v Speaker 2>think this pairs nicely with Christmas Star Wars Day. It's

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<v Speaker 2>all come together.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, we already missed Life Day though, so happy belated

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<v Speaker 1>Life Day.

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<v Speaker 2>Cha. Are they celebrating it this year?

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<v Speaker 1>November seventeenth?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's every three years, our Caine. Yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 2>weird job.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so it's every three years. Started in nineteen seventy eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do the math, shall we?

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<v Speaker 2>Quick? Math break? I believe that twenty fourteen was the

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<v Speaker 2>last Life Day. Man, we just missed it, and then

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<v Speaker 2>again in twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so twenty seventeen we'll celebrate Life Day. We'll put

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<v Speaker 1>on our red robes, our ultra long straight ironed wigs, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll celebrate Life Day. The way it was meant to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and if you have no idea what we're talking about,

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<v Speaker 2>we are talking about Life Day, which is a celebration

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<v Speaker 2>that Wookies in the Star Wars universe have every three years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like their Christmas. Yeah, they cele or their Quanta,

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<v Speaker 1>their tent.

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<v Speaker 2>Supposedly, it's sort of like Earth Day too. They celebrate

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<v Speaker 2>the diversity of their ecosystem and also remembrance of the dead,

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<v Speaker 2>and they also give the gifts. They're like the Finns basically. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a very interesting part of the Star Wars cannon.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, and it's almost entirely made up, dashed off

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<v Speaker 1>you could possibly say, by George Lucas in the seventies. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's the basis of what has become derided as

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<v Speaker 1>like one of the worst things that ever happened to

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<v Speaker 1>the Star Wars galaxy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, not only that, one of the worst things ever

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<v Speaker 2>aired on television. Yeah, with this galaxy. Yeah, at first

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<v Speaker 2>that sounds like hyperbole, like, come on, it's because it

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<v Speaker 2>was Star Wars and we had high expectations. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>really that bad. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The people who say that haven't seen even a second

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<v Speaker 1>of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, However, I watched it when I was a

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<v Speaker 2>kid again this week. Yeah, and you watched it twice

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<v Speaker 2>this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I watched it last night and this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>There's something about it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's mesmerizing, it really is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of those things that you start watching it

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<v Speaker 2>and you want to turn it off, but you want

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<v Speaker 2>to see just how absurd it can get.

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<v Speaker 1>Almost Yeah, and it starts absurd, it stays absurd in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle. Yeah, it's increasingly more absurd, it's a little

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<v Speaker 1>less absurd, finishes super absurd.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. It's just a train wreck in every single sense

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<v Speaker 2>of the word, top to bottom.

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<v Speaker 1>It's extraordinarily difficult to overstate how bad this is. And

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<v Speaker 1>some people, you know, in researching this, you read about it,

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<v Speaker 1>you read descriptions of these things, and it just can't

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<v Speaker 1>possibly be gotten across until you see it. So luckily,

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<v Speaker 1>as we will see, you can go onto YouTube and

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<v Speaker 1>watch it, and you may even enjoy this episode more

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<v Speaker 1>if you pause, go spend two hours watching this thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and then come back and laugh along with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a great Over the years, there been many

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<v Speaker 2>segments of it on YouTube from badly DUBBEDVHS tapes, but

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<v Speaker 2>there's one really pretty good version of it in full,

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<v Speaker 2>brought to you by w HIO Dayton, Ohio, Channel seven, Ohio.

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<v Speaker 2>Because that flashes up on the screen periodically.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, it is high quality. Yeah, it looks good, and

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<v Speaker 1>it has to basically be the copy that the actual

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<v Speaker 1>affiliate broadcast. Yeah, it's like that, that quality compared to

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<v Speaker 1>the other stuff floating around on YouTube. It's clearly recorded

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<v Speaker 1>on a nineteen seventy eight PCR.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which were really expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>Very expensive. I did some calculating on West Egg. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so the average VCR went for about one thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>There were brand new, it's amazing one.

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<v Speaker 1>Thousand dollars in nineteen seventy eight money, So they were

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<v Speaker 1>about thirty eight hundred dollars in twenty fourteen money.

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<v Speaker 2>Crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Luckily, there were some rich people out there recording this stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and the wealthy have saved us all again, yes, yet again,

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<v Speaker 1>as they always do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. And we need to shout out some articles that

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<v Speaker 2>we use for this. There's great a great article in

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<v Speaker 2>Vanity Fair called the Han Solo Comedy Our exclamation Point,

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<v Speaker 2>Yes by Frank de Jacomo. And then there's the Star

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<v Speaker 2>Wars Holiday Special was the worst thing on television ever

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<v Speaker 2>by someone we kind of know, Alex pasternakah from Motherboard, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>which is not wired. It's vice. Yes, we wrote a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit for Motherboard back then and we had a

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<v Speaker 2>call with that.

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<v Speaker 1>We're like, we're like old Motherboard vets.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, basically, wasn't there one more?

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<v Speaker 1>There was another one and I don't know who wrote

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<v Speaker 1>this one, chuck, Yeah, it's the titles the Star Wars

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<v Speaker 1>Holiday Special. George Lucas wants to smash every copy of

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<v Speaker 1>with a sledgehammer.

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<v Speaker 2>Which was a famous quote supposedly at a convention by Lucas. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>which is not correct. He didn't ever say that. No, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that sounded like something that people made up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but if you go on the internet you will

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<v Speaker 1>quickly believe that he did.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure apparently didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm sure he felt that way though, clearly, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because he did appear on Robot Chicken and I think

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and five on the Therapist's Couch talking about

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<v Speaker 1>how much he hated.

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<v Speaker 2>The Spec show.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so let's set the background, shall we Shall

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<v Speaker 1>we go back to nineteen seventy seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, summer getting the old wayback machine.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's do it. All right, here we are,

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<v Speaker 1>there's Waterson.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm just a little six year old excited about

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<v Speaker 2>Star Wars.

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<v Speaker 1>I am, I've just turned one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you don't know what's up yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I please forgive me if I urinate myself, no problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So what has happened is Star Wars has become

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<v Speaker 2>a huge, huge hit, seemingly out of nowhere. Yeah, establishing

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<v Speaker 2>George Lucas is one of the brilliant young minds in filmmaking,

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<v Speaker 2>even though in his first movie it was his first huge,

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<v Speaker 2>huge breakout hit. Oh yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean talk about a breakout hit like no one

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<v Speaker 1>had ever seen anything like it before. No, two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and one had come out in the late six these,

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<v Speaker 1>but it wasn't it's still still is inaccessible to all audiences.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's kind of a cerebral film.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not an adventure movie. This was Star Wars.

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<v Speaker 1>This is like basically swashbuckling on the screen. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in a galaxy far far away, Star Wars just changed

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<v Speaker 1>everything and it came on just like a hammer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and a new hope by the way, yes, and

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<v Speaker 2>then we're going to get stuff wrong, nerds. So yes,

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<v Speaker 2>just go ahead and get your little fingers ready to

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<v Speaker 2>email us.

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<v Speaker 1>Like if it wasn't driven home that I'm not a

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<v Speaker 1>nerd by the fact that I don't have opening night

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<v Speaker 1>tickets or any tickets yet, give me a break, and

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<v Speaker 1>by proxy Chuck too, Okay, thank you. So it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to state how great Star Wars was in everyone's mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah right.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Murray came out with that lounge singer Star Wars thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was everywhere and if you if you just listen

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<v Speaker 1>to the lyrics of it, it's really it's just Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Murray singing about how much Star Wars is awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah right.

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<v Speaker 1>So by the following year, George Lucas was he wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out a way to keep audiences just engaged

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<v Speaker 1>with the whole Star Wars franchise, so that he was

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<v Speaker 1>just starting to build, but he knew the Empire Strikes

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<v Speaker 1>Back was a couple more years out, sure, So I

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<v Speaker 1>think he was approached by some TV executives who said,

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<v Speaker 1>have you considered doing some sort of TV special? They're

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<v Speaker 1>all the rage right now. We have a graphic that's

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<v Speaker 1>really awesome that we set aside just for TV specials

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<v Speaker 1>here at CBS why don't you let us let's get

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<v Speaker 1>together and do a Star Wars special.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. Producers Gary Smith and Dwight Hemi on we're

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<v Speaker 2>working over at CBS, and they say, this is a

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<v Speaker 2>great way to keep the spirit alive while you're making

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<v Speaker 2>your other movie. Maybe move some more toys.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which George Lucas got a cut of all the toys.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure. So it was right before Thanksgiving, and he said

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<v Speaker 2>there'd be a lot of people watching TV pre holiday season,

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<v Speaker 2>or I guess in the holiday season.

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<v Speaker 1>The weekend before Thanksgiving, it's like everybody's shopping, sitting around

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<v Speaker 1>family like waiting to actually do stuff. That's right, perfect

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<v Speaker 1>time to broadcast something on TV.

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<v Speaker 2>So Lucas says, all right, let's do this. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have a ton of time, but how about this. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>get I'll get a story together and then you can

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<v Speaker 2>go hire a whiz bang team of veteran writers and

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<v Speaker 2>producers and directors.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever genre you think is appropriate. And those are the

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<v Speaker 1>words that will haunt George Lucas to his grave.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So Lucas said, here's my idea. I want it

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<v Speaker 2>to be based on Wookies, and I want it to

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<v Speaker 2>take place on their home planet of Kazuk or Wookie

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<v Speaker 2>planet C. Is that what he's saying, Kazuk. That's how

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<v Speaker 2>it's pronounced in the episode the Holiday Special, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>also pronounced different ways other times.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have pronounced that Cashie spell it k a

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<v Speaker 1>s h y y y k, which I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess that sounds like Chewbuck is sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Also called G five six twenty three. Wookie planet ce

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<v Speaker 2>or Eedeon is a mid rim planet. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So the whole reason apparently that George Lucas was interested

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<v Speaker 1>in featuring the Wookies was it is what we in

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<v Speaker 1>show business call low hanging fruit. The reason why it

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<v Speaker 1>was low hanging fruit was because they had just established

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<v Speaker 1>the different scenes that would make the cut for Empire

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<v Speaker 1>Strikes Back.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and how did you pronounce it again? Kazuk.

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<v Speaker 1>Kazuk had not made the cut. Even prior to this,

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<v Speaker 1>apparently for a new hope, George Lucas had whipped up

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<v Speaker 1>a forty page what's known as the Wookie Bible. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like a forty page supplement that's all about Kazuk and

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<v Speaker 1>Wookies and Chewbacca and his family and everything about wookiedom.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's like, I've got this thing already. You know

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<v Speaker 1>established I love Wookies. They didn't make the cut. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a little sad about that. They're not gonna kazuk is

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<v Speaker 1>not going to show up in Empire Strikes Back. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>build the entire special around wookies. It's basically the one

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<v Speaker 1>demand me George Lucas has. Yeah, that's it. I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>totally hands off from this point on which.

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<v Speaker 2>He kind of was.

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<v Speaker 1>He totally was, And it was actually this experience that

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<v Speaker 1>apparently taught him to be the very hands on person

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<v Speaker 1>that he is famous for being. It came out of

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<v Speaker 1>this Christmas special.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely he was burned and he had an iron grip

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<v Speaker 2>after that on everything. So here's some of the folks

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<v Speaker 2>behind it. Bruce Valanche, famous TV writer. You probably had

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<v Speaker 2>seen him on Hollywood Squares.

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't he suspected of being Thomas Pynchon for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, or was Thomas Pynchon on Hollywood Squares?

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>I may be confabulating some stuff confounding. Yeah, there's some

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<v Speaker 1>con of some sort going on.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like it. Yeah, So Valanche was hired as

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<v Speaker 2>a writer. A guy named Lenny Rips was hired as

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<v Speaker 2>a writer who.

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<v Speaker 1>Has some great quotes in that Vanity Fair article.

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<v Speaker 2>He does quote was, we were really excited because this

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<v Speaker 2>is Star Wars. How could it lose? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Famous last words?

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<v Speaker 2>Who else was hired? There was a husband and wife team,

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<v Speaker 2>the Welches. Yeah, who are the parents of folk singer

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<v Speaker 2>Gillian Welch, who I'm a big fan of And I

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<v Speaker 2>had no idea that her parents. They were producers slash

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<v Speaker 2>songwriters of the day. They were big on the variety

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<v Speaker 2>show scene, which would turn out to be a really

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<v Speaker 2>key cog in this whole experience.

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<v Speaker 1>So I feel like, write about here, Jerry should insert

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<v Speaker 1>a needle coming off of our record sound effect. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks Jerry, So Chuck, you just said singer songwriters.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what would that have to do with Star Wars? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, actually, in this Star Wars Holiday special, for those

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<v Speaker 1>of you who hadn't seen it, there are musical numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>They decided from the outset that there should be musical numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason that they decided that there should be

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<v Speaker 1>musical numbers is because the people who sold George Lucas

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<v Speaker 1>and at the time it was the Star Wars Corporation

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<v Speaker 1>was what it was called.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>On the idea of doing this TV special was that

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<v Speaker 1>everyone would love.

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<v Speaker 2>A variety show. Yeah, it was the seventies.

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<v Speaker 1>Great idea, let's do a variety show. The problem was this,

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<v Speaker 1>apparently George Lucas didn't watch enough TV. Yeah, and he

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<v Speaker 1>also overly trusted people who talk to him. Sure, because

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<v Speaker 1>by nineteen seventy eight, yes, variety shows had dominated television

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<v Speaker 1>for over ten years, but it had come to an end.

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<v Speaker 1>It was getting stale.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're talking to Carol Burnett show, one of my favorites.

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<v Speaker 1>Had just been canceled after eleven seasons.

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<v Speaker 2>Ye, Big Red Flag, Sonny and Chaer had just had

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<v Speaker 2>its last season. Yeah, I mean what else, like he

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<v Speaker 2>was still going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably the KiHa still on Solid Gold had yet to

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<v Speaker 1>come on and take up the mantle.

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<v Speaker 2>That would never variety show.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it was a little bit there's talking in between

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<v Speaker 1>the songs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Remember the Mandrell Sisters show.

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<v Speaker 1>I never watched that one. Well it was with that

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<v Speaker 1>country chic thing that happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was a big deal in the it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of happening again.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, Oh, because of that dude, the guy who

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<v Speaker 1>won all the CMA Awards.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like he's he came along and he's like, actually country.

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<v Speaker 1>His dad's like a coal miner for real from Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I know you mean Chris something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, he is good. He's come along and been like,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you guys doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's a revival in like good country music. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>that's great, like in the tradition of Merle Haggard and

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<v Speaker 2>show Cash.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess that's probably where the country she came from,

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<v Speaker 1>because there was actually good country going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Johnny Cash out of a variety show? Did he really?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I knew they did, like a Sunday singing

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<v Speaker 1>thing like out in Virginia.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he had his own variety show was actually pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>There's some like really great performances.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know how many nerds are like, get back

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<v Speaker 1>to Star Wars?

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I'm so sorry. All right, So the Variety

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<v Speaker 2>Show is dying sort of, and so they figure, what

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<v Speaker 2>a great time to take the biggest movie property on

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<v Speaker 2>the planet and wedge it into the variety show milieu.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if wedge is the right word. I

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<v Speaker 1>think maybe nestle it in there and then start hitting

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<v Speaker 1>it with the blunt edge of an axe until it

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<v Speaker 1>mashes into that Crevis. You know that's right, because this

0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:23.680
<v Speaker 1>is the time when Fantasy Island had just started Morecamindi

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<v Speaker 1>was about to change things. Charlie's Angels was getting huge.

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<v Speaker 1>It basically television as we knew it from nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 1>to whenever the real world came along. Just escape ast

0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:38.160
<v Speaker 1>television is what they called. It was starting and it

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<v Speaker 1>was the hip new thing. So basically, if they had

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<v Speaker 1>turned Han Solo and Princess Leah and Luke Skywalker into

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you know, sexy detectives, it might have gone over

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<v Speaker 1>even better. But they went the other way. They decided

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<v Speaker 1>to latch onto this extraordinarily stale genre of television, and

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<v Speaker 1>they hired the best in the business.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, there was a quote from I think Lenny Rips

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<v Speaker 1>who was saying, like we had literally a dream team, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a variety show dream team, and everybody was good. But

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<v Speaker 1>there were probably no bad welders on the Titanic either.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great quote. Yeah. The guy they hired to

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<v Speaker 2>direct it initially was a dude named David at Coomba

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<v Speaker 2>and he had made his name for Welcome to the

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<v Speaker 2>Fillmore East. It was a concert documentary with Van mor

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<v Speaker 2>Van Morrison and the Birds in nineteen seventy one, and

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<v Speaker 2>he actually was at usc Film School the same time

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<v Speaker 2>as Lucas, even though they didn't know each other, and

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<v Speaker 2>he only ended up directing about three segments of the

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<v Speaker 2>thing before he quit, yep, before he walked off. Some

0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:42.600
<v Speaker 2>say he was actually let go, but we'll get to

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<v Speaker 2>him in a minute and who replaced him. Okay, as

0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:48.480
<v Speaker 2>we get along down this gross road, well.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's take a little break because I'm overly excited.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, softly jaws.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So we've established most of the main players.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get to a few more. We should point out

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<v Speaker 2>that Mark Hamill and Harrison Ford and Carrie Fisher, Peter Mayhew, they.

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<v Speaker 1>Had no grounds to refuse to be on this.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically, yeah, pretty much. They were not huge, huge stars,

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<v Speaker 2>yet they could throw their weight around and say this

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<v Speaker 2>is terrible and I'm not doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>They were big overnight because of Star Wars, for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>but they weren't to the adoring public.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Back at the studio they could still be bossed around,

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<v Speaker 1>and this was the result of it. And you can

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<v Speaker 1>tell also just from watching the actual special, like Harrison

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<v Speaker 1>Ford is not happy to be there at any point.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, Princess Leiah is clearly on drugs.

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<v Speaker 2>Was she on drugs at this point?

0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:07.800
<v Speaker 1>If you watch it, she's on drugs. Especially the ending scene,

0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Mark Hambell.

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<v Speaker 2>Looks like he's happy to be there. Actually he was.

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<v Speaker 1>Fine, but apparently he said no, I'm not doing a

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<v Speaker 1>musical number. And if you watch his part, wedging a

0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:21.919
<v Speaker 1>musical number in there would have been even more painful. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>but everybody who was part of the actual Star Wars

0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:29.640
<v Speaker 1>franchise that wasn't wearing like a full body costume, yeah,

0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:33.240
<v Speaker 1>was like I really wish I wasn't here, And you can.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell, oh yeah. In fact, in the opening credit sequence,

0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:39.679
<v Speaker 2>they're showing the picture the you know, the faces of

0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:42.760
<v Speaker 2>the people, and you see Harrison Ford as if he's

0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:45.040
<v Speaker 2>flying the Millennium Falcon, and you can you can just

0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:47.400
<v Speaker 2>hear the guy all screen going, now look at the

0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:49.600
<v Speaker 2>camera and just give a nod. Just look at the

0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:51.760
<v Speaker 2>camera and give a nod. And he finally you can

0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:53.639
<v Speaker 2>tell he's pissed off and he looks up at the

0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:55.360
<v Speaker 2>camera and just sort of smirks.

0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:57.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah and points at the camera like okay, I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>at the camera, and then goes back to what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>It felt bad for him so early on Valanche and others.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you feel bad for him?

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<v Speaker 2>Though? Really?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like, come on, it's Harrison for it's Hans Solo.

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<v Speaker 1>He has to go do this for like five days.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I felt terrible for him.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's hilarious that they had to do this,

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<v Speaker 1>especially now.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, early on, Valanche and others knew that they may

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<v Speaker 2>be in trouble because they decided not to subtitle any

0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:28.880
<v Speaker 2>of the Wookie dialogue right and they literally started after

0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:31.439
<v Speaker 2>a brief opening scene setting it up here. Here's the

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<v Speaker 2>basic plot is Han Solo is trying to get Chewbacca

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<v Speaker 2>back to Kazuok in time for Life Day so he

0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:41.960
<v Speaker 2>can celebrate with his family. That's the basis of the

0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:44.840
<v Speaker 2>entire two hours I see, basis the entire two hours.

0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:48.879
<v Speaker 2>They encounter a space battle and they're delayed, and the

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<v Speaker 2>next two hours are kind of what's going on while

0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:54.320
<v Speaker 2>the delay is happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Back on Kazuk. Back on Kazuk, because you hear like, oh, okay, well,

0:20:57.280 --> 0:21:00.880
<v Speaker 1>Han Solo and Chewbacca evading the Imperial Guard and all

0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:03.560
<v Speaker 1>that stuff for two hours. I would watch that, Sure,

0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:06.240
<v Speaker 1>I would too. Yeah, that's not what they show.

0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:10.760
<v Speaker 2>Killing time at the Wookie household, that is what they show. Yeah,

0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:11.600
<v Speaker 2>that's what they do.

0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:15.679
<v Speaker 1>It's people hanging out waiting for Chewbacca, worrying about him. Yeah,

0:21:15.720 --> 0:21:18.320
<v Speaker 1>and then killing time while they wait for him to

0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:18.800
<v Speaker 1>come back.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally, so and so hold on, So you say there's

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<v Speaker 1>a setup.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, that's the initial setup.

0:21:24.560 --> 0:21:27.479
<v Speaker 1>And then chuck, that's followed by this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's followed by literally ten minutes, ten solid minutes

0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:36.760
<v Speaker 2>of incomprehensible Wookie speak.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's let's join it for a second, shall we. Yeah,

0:21:39.440 --> 0:22:28.080
<v Speaker 1>let's all enjoy it. And again, you said ten minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're not exaggerating, you're not being hyperbolic. You can

0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:34.240
<v Speaker 1>time it. That's it's ten minutes of Wookie's talking to

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<v Speaker 1>each other with no subtitles.

0:22:36.359 --> 0:22:39.520
<v Speaker 2>Fortunately, I couldn't follow it at first, Like I didn't

0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:42.399
<v Speaker 2>even know who it was. I thought it might have

0:22:42.440 --> 0:22:46.920
<v Speaker 2>been Chewbacca's mom and dad. Oh yeah, that's and little brother. Sure,

0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:49.359
<v Speaker 2>And I don't find out until later when Mark Camill

0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:54.520
<v Speaker 2>shows up via skype call and says he really explains

0:22:54.560 --> 0:22:59.080
<v Speaker 2>everything that had just happened, Like, you're Chewbacca's father, Itchy,

0:22:59.520 --> 0:23:03.520
<v Speaker 2>your cub, his son Lumpy Lumpy yeah, and you are

0:23:03.600 --> 0:23:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Chewbacca's wife. Oh, Mala, yeah, thank you.

0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:09.800
<v Speaker 1>So before everybody starts like freaking out, we know that

0:23:09.800 --> 0:23:13.760
<v Speaker 1>that's actually their nicknames. Their real names are. His father

0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:18.040
<v Speaker 1>is a Tichik cook, a Titchik cook.

0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:19.280
<v Speaker 2>It's really hard to pronounce.

0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Mulatto Buck is his wife, and his son is Lumpo

0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:25.080
<v Speaker 1>or ump but.

0:23:25.480 --> 0:23:27.360
<v Speaker 2>As named by Lucas. But yeah, but.

0:23:27.400 --> 0:23:31.320
<v Speaker 1>Lucas also named him Lumpy Itchy and Mala yeah. So

0:23:32.560 --> 0:23:35.440
<v Speaker 1>they're all back there wringing their hands trying to figure

0:23:35.440 --> 0:23:38.680
<v Speaker 1>out ways to pass the time until they get word

0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:41.680
<v Speaker 1>from Chewbacca that he's made it to uh what is it?

0:23:41.760 --> 0:23:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Ketchukuk Kazuk. Say ketchup, ketchup or cats up if you're fancy.

0:23:49.720 --> 0:23:54.720
<v Speaker 1>But Chewbacca is having trouble getting back to Kochuk because

0:23:55.200 --> 0:24:00.880
<v Speaker 1>there's Kazuk, because there's a blockade by them and they're

0:24:00.920 --> 0:24:03.960
<v Speaker 1>looking for rebels, specifically Chewbacca, who I didn't realize this.

0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:06.440
<v Speaker 1>He's the most famous Wookie of all did you know that?

0:24:06.840 --> 0:24:09.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course I didn't know that. Well, I mean

0:24:09.280 --> 0:24:12.119
<v Speaker 2>he's the only one that really appears in the movies, right,

0:24:12.119 --> 0:24:12.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're seeing, like, you know, these people's view of

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<v Speaker 1>the universe. What about back on Kazook.

0:24:19.760 --> 0:24:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he might have just been a fly by night wookie, right, Yeah,

0:24:22.920 --> 0:24:25.119
<v Speaker 2>but not the case very famous wookie.

0:24:25.240 --> 0:24:27.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he really loved to like soak in his fame.

0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:31.639
<v Speaker 2>All right, So he realizes there's a problem Valanche. He

0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:34.520
<v Speaker 2>goes to Lucas and is like, I don't know, man,

0:24:35.000 --> 0:24:37.439
<v Speaker 2>this is your world, but it may not be the

0:24:37.520 --> 0:24:40.919
<v Speaker 2>strongest thing to do to set this in Wokieland and

0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:44.760
<v Speaker 2>have all this comprehensible dialogue. And he says he was

0:24:44.840 --> 0:24:46.160
<v Speaker 2>met with a glacial stare.

0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:49.400
<v Speaker 1>Well he put it a little differently than that.

0:24:49.840 --> 0:24:51.720
<v Speaker 2>Well, he said glacial stare. He did.

0:24:52.440 --> 0:24:55.480
<v Speaker 1>The glacial steir that he got was for this quote.

0:24:55.520 --> 0:24:58.560
<v Speaker 1>He said, these people just talk and what sounds like

0:24:58.600 --> 0:25:01.520
<v Speaker 1>fat people having an organic Yeah. He goes, if you want,

0:25:01.560 --> 0:25:03.560
<v Speaker 1>you can set up a tape recorder in my bedroom

0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:05.600
<v Speaker 1>and I'll do all of the follying it for it.

0:25:05.680 --> 0:25:06.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. He's a large guy.

0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:10.000
<v Speaker 1>He is. So that's what got the glacial stare. But

0:25:10.240 --> 0:25:13.359
<v Speaker 1>Valanche later said that from this there was one development

0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:17.120
<v Speaker 1>meeting that Lucas attended, and it was here's the Wookie Bible,

0:25:18.000 --> 0:25:20.960
<v Speaker 1>tell me what you got. And Valanche said he and

0:25:21.000 --> 0:25:24.000
<v Speaker 1>the other writers and producers and director were just kind

0:25:24.040 --> 0:25:27.600
<v Speaker 1>of throwing ideas, and George Lucas would either say like, no,

0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:31.040
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't work, give him a glacial stare, or say, yes,

0:25:31.240 --> 0:25:34.560
<v Speaker 1>that's exactly it. Yes, let's make this a variety show.

0:25:34.880 --> 0:25:37.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And there was a little bit of background there.

0:25:38.040 --> 0:25:41.960
<v Speaker 2>The cantena players in the band had appeared on other

0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:45.520
<v Speaker 2>variety shows at that point, and I think it went

0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:48.480
<v Speaker 2>over fairly well, just as a short segment on like

0:25:48.520 --> 0:25:53.800
<v Speaker 2>the Richard Pryor Variety Show or Donnie Marie yep Man.

0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:55.080
<v Speaker 2>There were a lot of variety shows.

0:25:55.640 --> 0:25:58.480
<v Speaker 1>But that's what I'm saying. That was television. That's what

0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:03.920
<v Speaker 1>you did. Like the Bradys. The show had its course

0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:06.679
<v Speaker 1>and then it became a variety show. It was just

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:08.280
<v Speaker 1>everybody loved variety shows.

0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:08.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:26:09.160 --> 0:26:12.000
<v Speaker 1>By this time, though, everybody was sick of variety shows, right,

0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:14.879
<v Speaker 1>and so it really was a terrible choice.

0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:17.520
<v Speaker 2>In fact, they even hired a couple of writers from

0:26:17.680 --> 0:26:20.119
<v Speaker 2>Shields and Yarnell, which I hadn't heard of I do.

0:26:20.359 --> 0:26:22.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I watched it. It was at least creepy.

0:26:23.240 --> 0:26:26.920
<v Speaker 2>This mind couple who had their own variety show, and

0:26:27.359 --> 0:26:31.400
<v Speaker 2>they figured these two will be great because they are

0:26:31.520 --> 0:26:33.399
<v Speaker 2>used to working without words.

0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:35.399
<v Speaker 1>Right, and so there is a certain logic to the

0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:37.600
<v Speaker 1>variety show. It's not just all the p's just that

0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:39.120
<v Speaker 1>variety shows were popular.

0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:26:39.600 --> 0:26:42.840
<v Speaker 1>At the time, somebody was like, well, wookies, you don't

0:26:42.920 --> 0:26:44.879
<v Speaker 1>understand what they're saying. So this is all going to

0:26:44.960 --> 0:26:48.879
<v Speaker 1>be very physical. So these people who who did what

0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:52.200
<v Speaker 1>is it Shields and Yarnell. Yeah, that's a perfect choice.

0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:55.840
<v Speaker 1>That makes complete sense. You can see this whole this

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:58.239
<v Speaker 1>whole process of leading up to the point where it

0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:01.439
<v Speaker 1>was produced and shot and everything. Yeah, a series of like,

0:27:01.520 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 1>oh we have this problem, well here's a fix. Yeah,

0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:06.040
<v Speaker 1>well but that leads to another problem. Well we'll fix

0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:09.000
<v Speaker 1>it with this. And no one's stepping back and being like,

0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:12.840
<v Speaker 1>all we've done is create a series of problems that

0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:15.840
<v Speaker 1>are going to come together and make one extraordinarily large

0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:19.280
<v Speaker 1>problem that will become legendary. No one did that, and

0:27:19.320 --> 0:27:21.400
<v Speaker 1>so the whole thing was made.

0:27:21.520 --> 0:27:23.920
<v Speaker 2>That's right, and It eventually airs on.

0:27:24.760 --> 0:27:29.000
<v Speaker 1>November seventeenth, nineteen seventy eight, a Friday, at eight pm

0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Eastern time.

0:27:30.080 --> 0:27:34.720
<v Speaker 2>That's right, and according to Nielsen ratings, it attracted thirteen

0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:37.760
<v Speaker 2>million viewers lost the second hour.

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Just in the US. It aired in six or seven

0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:41.720
<v Speaker 1>countries total.

0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but no one cares about that, I guess not

0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:45.840
<v Speaker 2>because none of those are on the internet. You know.

0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:49.359
<v Speaker 2>It finished second to the Love Boat in the second

0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:51.600
<v Speaker 2>ar I'm sorry, from eight to nine, and in the

0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:54.480
<v Speaker 2>next hour actually finished behind part two of a mini

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:57.800
<v Speaker 2>series about Pearl Harbor starring Angie Dickinson. So yeah, it

0:27:57.840 --> 0:27:59.959
<v Speaker 2>didn't even win their respective hours.

0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 1>No, thirteen million, that's not bad. The thing is, apparently,

0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:07.439
<v Speaker 1>if you look at the Nielsen ratings graph for the

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:08.280
<v Speaker 1>first hour.

0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:10.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah we know about that graph, It's okay, yeah, we do.

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:14.600
<v Speaker 1>And then after a very important part, which we'll talk

0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:17.720
<v Speaker 1>about soon, it just drops off at the end of

0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:21.080
<v Speaker 1>the first hour, and that actually probably made the executives

0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:24.200
<v Speaker 1>at CBS cringe for a number of reasons. Number one

0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:27.880
<v Speaker 1>is this special was originally supposed to just be an hour,

0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:31.880
<v Speaker 1>but so many advertisers wanted to sign one that they

0:28:32.160 --> 0:28:36.680
<v Speaker 1>extended it to two hours. And it shines through. You

0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:39.800
<v Speaker 1>can totally tell that this thing was never supposed to

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:42.240
<v Speaker 1>I think an hour might have been stretching it to

0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:45.280
<v Speaker 1>tell you the truth. Oh yeah, it's thirty minutes of content,

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:49.600
<v Speaker 1>forty if you're generous, an hour and then two hours.

0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:52.239
<v Speaker 1>It becomes one of the worst things that was ever

0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:53.240
<v Speaker 1>put on television.

0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:54.960
<v Speaker 2>All right, well, let's take a break and then we'll

0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:59.760
<v Speaker 2>talk a little bit more about the actual even don't

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:02.880
<v Speaker 2>want to call it content, but it is content in

0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:05.000
<v Speaker 2>the strictest definition. Right after this.

0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:19.720
<v Speaker 3>Staffy jawsh shop.

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 2>All right, so the show itself, we've given you the

0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 2>main plot line, which again is that Chewy is trying

0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:35.600
<v Speaker 2>to get back to his home planet to celebrate life

0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:36.400
<v Speaker 2>Day with his family.

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:41.200
<v Speaker 1>Right, that's it, And again we almost barely see Chewy.

0:29:41.400 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:46.200
<v Speaker 1>The rest is his family on Kazook waiting for him

0:29:46.240 --> 0:29:47.200
<v Speaker 1>to come back for a life Day.

0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So some of the various things they did there

0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:53.040
<v Speaker 2>were guest stars. There was Harvey Korman from the Carol

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:56.360
<v Speaker 2>Burnett Show. Okay, one of my all time favorites.

0:29:56.360 --> 0:30:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Him or Carol Burnett Show both. He's great. Yeah, he

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 1>actually if you watch what he's doing, like.

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:06.760
<v Speaker 2>This is sure. Apparently he too was like the only

0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:09.080
<v Speaker 2>one on set that was bringing levity. He was joking

0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 2>around and kind of kept spirits up. Good for him,

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:12.280
<v Speaker 2>that's what I say.

0:30:12.360 --> 0:30:14.840
<v Speaker 1>And he had three different parts.

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he played uh well, I don't even know the names. Actually,

0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:21.600
<v Speaker 2>we could look him up, but he played a h

0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 2>He played a Julia child like cook. There's an actual

0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 2>cooking segment, a long one, a very long cooking segment

0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:34.760
<v Speaker 2>where Chewbacca's wife makes banthas stew.

0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:38.920
<v Speaker 1>To kill some time, to kill some time on her

0:30:39.000 --> 0:30:41.240
<v Speaker 1>planet and in our living room.

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:43.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so Harvey Corman is in drag is a four

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:49.160
<v Speaker 2>armed Julia childlike TV chef right, And I think it's Gormanda.

0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:52.479
<v Speaker 2>It's her name, Gormonda. That makes total sense. Yeah, he

0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 2>also plays There's this one weird bit where Chewbacca's son

0:30:58.040 --> 0:30:59.960
<v Speaker 2>tries to figure out a way to trick the story

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:02.840
<v Speaker 2>or troopers that the Empire had come and kind of

0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 2>because the blockade raided the house and other properties. So

0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 2>he tries to trick them by I think, rigging a

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:12.080
<v Speaker 2>calm link to speak in a different voice. So he

0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:18.160
<v Speaker 2>has to watch the instruction manual. He watches an instruction

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 2>video which was Harvey Kytel as a robot.

0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:24.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh, it would have been wonderful of big Harvey Kyel.

0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh I did say Harvey Harvey Korm.

0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:30.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh Man Harvey kit Tell murders someone in the middle

0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:31.640
<v Speaker 1>of the instruction.

0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:34.240
<v Speaker 2>Rad Harvey Korman. And then the final role he had

0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:39.120
<v Speaker 2>was as a bar patron in the cantina that drinks.

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:41.560
<v Speaker 2>He has a hole in the top of his head

0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:44.200
<v Speaker 2>like a volcano where he pours his drinks in. That's

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:47.600
<v Speaker 2>how he drinks. And he loves b Arthur. Did we

0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:48.640
<v Speaker 2>mention b Arthur was in it?

0:31:48.760 --> 0:31:50.960
<v Speaker 1>B Arthur is not only in it, Chuck. She sings

0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:51.400
<v Speaker 1>a song.

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:54.960
<v Speaker 2>She does she is the unpronounce to everyone she manages

0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:57.480
<v Speaker 2>or maybe owns the owner.

0:31:57.640 --> 0:32:01.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what's the mas What ma def cantina?

0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 2>No, most def is a rapper? Oh yeah, think you

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:06.040
<v Speaker 2>mean Moss Eisley.

0:32:06.280 --> 0:32:09.520
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, that cantina. She's the owner. Be Arthur is

0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:12.160
<v Speaker 1>the owner be Arthur of the Golden Girls, but in

0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:14.840
<v Speaker 1>this case be Arthur of Maud, because, as one of

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 1>the people who wrote one of the articles we based

0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:19.640
<v Speaker 1>this on points out, she's just basically playing Maud as

0:32:19.680 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 1>the owner of the cantina.

0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:26.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and her song comes because they basically say there's

0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:29.880
<v Speaker 2>a lockdown, so you gotta call last call at your bar.

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:33.240
<v Speaker 2>So she calls last call by singing a song to everyone.

0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Right, and again, we can't possibly have the script lead

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:41.080
<v Speaker 1>anywhere else but Chewbacca's house while his family waits for it.

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:44.360
<v Speaker 1>So all this takes place as part of a public

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:49.760
<v Speaker 1>service announcement basically broadcast by the Empire about how immoral

0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:53.240
<v Speaker 1>life on Tattooin is. So let's go see what's going

0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:57.560
<v Speaker 1>on in the mos Eisley Cantina as it's being shut

0:32:57.600 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 1>down for curfew.

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, this is incomprehensible, but it goes on.

0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 2>So they're in it. There's also Art Carney. Yes, he's

0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:10.360
<v Speaker 2>the Honeymooner family, the star of the whole thing.

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:14.280
<v Speaker 1>Really, he has the most lines, I would say, the

0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:16.440
<v Speaker 1>most comprehensible line, right.

0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:20.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So he plays a trader, a human trader that

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:24.440
<v Speaker 2>is recently been with Han, Solo and Chewy and actually

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:27.080
<v Speaker 2>gets to Kazook and says they're on the way. It's

0:33:27.120 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 2>all good. Yeah, a trade or not trade tour. Yeah,

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 2>traders and trades humans for you know, money.

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:39.320
<v Speaker 1>No, he he sells goods. Yeah, a trader he doesn't

0:33:39.360 --> 0:33:41.840
<v Speaker 1>trade humans. Yeah, he's in the human trade.

0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:44.040
<v Speaker 2>He No, he isn't.

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:47.160
<v Speaker 1>Really, Yeah, he trades humans like he sells humans.

0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:50.400
<v Speaker 2>I looked it up in the Star Wars Encyclopedia said

0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:52.360
<v Speaker 2>that he was in the human trade. Huh.

0:33:52.400 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 1>So in this Christmas special, Yeah, apparently they sanitized his

0:33:56.840 --> 0:34:00.640
<v Speaker 1>background because he's basically just selling like gadgets and novelties

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:03.640
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that to the Wookies and the Empire

0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:06.000
<v Speaker 1>who were occupying the area.

0:34:06.200 --> 0:34:07.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes, he comes bearing gifts.

0:34:08.800 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because he's a friend of Chewbac's family.

0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so he comes bearing gifts. One of the gifts

0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:17.240
<v Speaker 2>he gives is a sort of like a little digital

0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:21.239
<v Speaker 2>insert to a Oh, I guess you would call it

0:34:21.280 --> 0:34:26.120
<v Speaker 2>a virtual reality hair dryer hair dryer, like a beauty

0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:26.839
<v Speaker 2>shop hair dryer.

0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:32.640
<v Speaker 2>He gives it to Grandpa Itchy. Grandpa Itchy sits under

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:37.200
<v Speaker 2>this hair dryer, pops in this digital cassette, and it

0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:40.440
<v Speaker 2>can only be described as soft core porn.

0:34:40.719 --> 0:34:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Apparently, the writers who were interviewed for this said that

0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:46.520
<v Speaker 1>was totally the intent. They were trying to get what

0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:49.480
<v Speaker 1>amounted to soft core porn that would pass the sensors.

0:34:49.640 --> 0:34:50.120
<v Speaker 2>That's right.

0:34:50.200 --> 0:34:55.040
<v Speaker 1>So it's all. You can't even say it's innuendo. It's

0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:59.240
<v Speaker 1>too obvious an overt for innuendo. Instead, it's just it's

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:05.440
<v Speaker 1>just it's just gross. It's really gross. Diane Carroll, great singer,

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Yes she is a Vegas staple, shows up and starts

0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:17.440
<v Speaker 1>basically tantalizing Grandpa Itchy again. This is Chewbacca's elderly father

0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:21.760
<v Speaker 1>who now engages in some sort of well he's watching

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:25.320
<v Speaker 1>virtual reality pornography now, and this is a pretty lengthy

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:26.600
<v Speaker 1>segment in and of itself.

0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:29.920
<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, and she literally says to him, like, now

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:34.279
<v Speaker 2>I can see you're really excited. Yeah, it's pretty rough

0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:36.600
<v Speaker 2>to watch. Yeah, so then you've got another musical.

0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Number because also again he shudders, Yeah, it's really strange.

0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:45.680
<v Speaker 2>All right. So there's also a I know, it seems

0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:48.400
<v Speaker 2>like we're jumping around, but it's it's so mind blowing.

0:35:48.400 --> 0:35:50.440
<v Speaker 1>Like this is pretty much like blow for blow.

0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Actually I forgot earlier on in the In the special,

0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 2>there's one of my favorite sequences is when Grandpa Itchy

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:03.080
<v Speaker 2>goes over to Lumpy and basically sets up remember the

0:36:03.880 --> 0:36:06.720
<v Speaker 2>hologram chess board that they played in A New Hope,

0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:09.360
<v Speaker 2>basically kind of sets that up and says, here, just

0:36:09.400 --> 0:36:12.000
<v Speaker 2>play this. He pushes the button which is clearly a

0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:19.480
<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventies cassette recorder, and another like it's like a

0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:26.600
<v Speaker 2>circ desole acid trip gymnast routine happens in front of

0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:29.719
<v Speaker 2>the kid's eyes. And again this all just it's not

0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 2>like it shows a snippet. They show the entire segments,

0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:35.440
<v Speaker 2>like five, six, ten minutes long. Sure of all of

0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:35.960
<v Speaker 2>these things.

0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:39.120
<v Speaker 1>So you would think, Okay, they've gone to this hologram

0:36:39.120 --> 0:36:42.080
<v Speaker 1>well a couple of times, why not go to it again?

0:36:42.280 --> 0:36:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Well they do. They do to kill more time while

0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:51.080
<v Speaker 1>the Imperial Guard is ransacking their house. Art Carney apparently,

0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:53.840
<v Speaker 1>I guess it's trying to get one of the Imperial Guard,

0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:56.600
<v Speaker 1>the leader, I think, or one of the leaders.

0:36:56.360 --> 0:36:58.600
<v Speaker 2>Who looks like somebody from Spaceballs, by the way.

0:36:58.680 --> 0:37:02.400
<v Speaker 1>Very much so, And the writer of the Vanity Fair article,

0:37:02.400 --> 0:37:06.440
<v Speaker 1>by the way said this is so incomprehensible. The specialist

0:37:06.719 --> 0:37:09.120
<v Speaker 1>George Lucas didn't even have the schwartz with him at

0:37:09.120 --> 0:37:15.320
<v Speaker 1>the time. So anyway, our Carney's distracting this Imperial leader

0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:21.240
<v Speaker 1>while they're ransacking the Wookies house, Chewbacca's house with a hologram.

0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:24.560
<v Speaker 1>In this hologram, instead of being an acrobat or Diane

0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Carroll or any kind of porn or anything like that,

0:37:27.560 --> 0:37:32.960
<v Speaker 1>is Jefferson Starship. And they decide that they're going to

0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:36.360
<v Speaker 1>play Light the Sky on Fire, which apparently is about UFOs.

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:39.640
<v Speaker 1>It's a little music video basically, it's a Yeah, it's

0:37:39.680 --> 0:37:42.600
<v Speaker 1>the predecessor to like video kill the radio story you

0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:48.320
<v Speaker 1>can tell. And again it is the whole lengthy song.

0:37:48.640 --> 0:37:49.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the whole thing.

0:37:49.880 --> 0:37:53.400
<v Speaker 1>So every time that somebody's like we need to escape

0:37:53.520 --> 0:37:56.760
<v Speaker 1>mentally from what's going on here in our house, let's

0:37:56.760 --> 0:38:00.440
<v Speaker 1>go into the video world, it's not just and they

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:04.399
<v Speaker 1>don't cut back and forth. No, it's okay, here's five

0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:07.160
<v Speaker 1>minutes of Jefferson Starship performing this song.

0:38:07.360 --> 0:38:10.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And even the Jefferson Starship guys were like, yeah,

0:38:10.760 --> 0:38:12.920
<v Speaker 2>it's sort of a weird trip, like we didn't get it,

0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:14.560
<v Speaker 2>but we did it right.

0:38:14.840 --> 0:38:18.120
<v Speaker 1>They gave us some money, yeah, and some cocaine. Well,

0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:23.520
<v Speaker 1>so we said, yeah, chuck. I think though, there yet

0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 1>another segment like this is actually widely regarded as the

0:38:28.280 --> 0:38:30.680
<v Speaker 1>high point of the whole thing. Oh sure, great, there

0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:34.279
<v Speaker 1>is a cartoon actually, yeah, that Lump Lumpy watches. Yeah,

0:38:34.320 --> 0:38:38.640
<v Speaker 1>Lumpy's like the Imperial Guard is still ransacking my house.

0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:42.080
<v Speaker 1>I think I'll entertain myself by watching a cartoon on

0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:43.719
<v Speaker 1>my little I.

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:44.239
<v Speaker 2>Don't know what.

0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:48.200
<v Speaker 1>I guess it was an iPad and he watches this

0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 1>cartoon and it's it's actually remarkable for a number of reasons.

0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:53.760
<v Speaker 1>It's the best part of the whole special.

0:38:53.880 --> 0:38:57.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, generally agreed upon as such, right, not just us.

0:38:57.880 --> 0:39:01.160
<v Speaker 1>And it introduces Boba Fett time Boba fet ever makes

0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:02.880
<v Speaker 1>an appearance in the Star Wars universe.

0:39:03.000 --> 0:39:05.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's actually not a bad And you can't find

0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:07.920
<v Speaker 2>it in the the one version I told you to watch.

0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:10.960
<v Speaker 2>They removed it for copyright, but you didn't watch a separate.

0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:12.359
<v Speaker 1>Version, right, you can find it on its own.

0:39:12.760 --> 0:39:15.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And it's it's very much reminiscent of like the

0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:17.400
<v Speaker 2>cartoon style of the day, like a he Man or

0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:18.120
<v Speaker 2>something for.

0:39:18.000 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Sure, even even it's even a little more artsy than that.

0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:24.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But it does have a plot that you can

0:39:24.719 --> 0:39:28.080
<v Speaker 2>follow that makes sense as a Star Wars thing, and

0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:31.160
<v Speaker 2>it introduces Boba fet like you said, and it's actually

0:39:31.160 --> 0:39:33.200
<v Speaker 2>not bad. It's like Luke and R two.

0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:35.759
<v Speaker 1>And C three po Yeah, and they're like they crash

0:39:35.840 --> 0:39:36.680
<v Speaker 1>on a planet or something.

0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:38.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Han and where you're in it. And it's

0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:40.279
<v Speaker 2>the first time we see in Darth Vader. It's the

0:39:40.280 --> 0:39:43.480
<v Speaker 2>first time we see Boba Fett and that he is

0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:47.560
<v Speaker 2>that he is just doing whatever he can do for money,

0:39:47.920 --> 0:39:50.000
<v Speaker 2>Like Luke trusts him at first, ce three bos like,

0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:51.680
<v Speaker 2>you're sure you should trust him this quick? Yeah, and

0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:54.920
<v Speaker 2>he's like, oh, three po you in your non trusting ways.

0:39:55.239 --> 0:39:56.960
<v Speaker 2>And then it turns out he's selling them out to

0:39:57.040 --> 0:39:57.800
<v Speaker 2>the dark side.

0:39:57.920 --> 0:40:00.880
<v Speaker 1>So it's it's basically Boba fet as an allegory for

0:40:00.920 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 1>George Lucas himself. So the cartoon comes and goes, and

0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:08.879
<v Speaker 1>that was the thing that came at about the end

0:40:08.920 --> 0:40:12.840
<v Speaker 1>of the first hour mark and after that everybody just

0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:14.840
<v Speaker 1>turned off their television sets.

0:40:15.320 --> 0:40:18.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't remember. Did you watch this when it

0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:18.440
<v Speaker 2>came up?

0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:18.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:21.520
<v Speaker 2>I remember watching it, but I don't remember much about it,

0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:23.480
<v Speaker 2>Like if I made it through it all. I mean

0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:25.480
<v Speaker 2>it was I was seven and it was on till ten,

0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:27.880
<v Speaker 2>so I probably didn't make it through it all. Yeah,

0:40:27.920 --> 0:40:31.400
<v Speaker 2>Plus you're probably disturbed. Who knows, I just remember that.

0:40:32.080 --> 0:40:33.600
<v Speaker 2>I'll have to ask my brother. He might have a

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:34.080
<v Speaker 2>memory of this.

0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:37.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh Betty does. I'm sure he met everybody afterward or

0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:39.000
<v Speaker 1>something like that. You know, it has a picture.

0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:41.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, he was ten at that point, so cynicism had,

0:40:41.640 --> 0:40:44.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, become a thing in his life. Probably all

0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:47.080
<v Speaker 2>right by then, Sure didn't that when centicism kicks into

0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:50.720
<v Speaker 2>Jenkinsie Scott holding out to fourteen fifteen, Yeah, maybe so

0:40:50.719 --> 0:40:53.440
<v Speaker 2>so Chuck, the whole.

0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Thing finally does in. And actually there's a guy. His

0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:58.840
<v Speaker 1>name is Nathan Raven, he writes over at the av Club.

0:40:59.120 --> 0:41:01.120
<v Speaker 1>He had a great quote. He basically said that one

0:41:01.120 --> 0:41:04.840
<v Speaker 1>of the great redeeming values of this this special is

0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:06.000
<v Speaker 1>that it does eventually end.

0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:07.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what the first part of the quote is,

0:41:08.880 --> 0:41:11.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm not convinced the special wasn't ultimately written and directed

0:41:11.560 --> 0:41:13.440
<v Speaker 2>by a sentient bag of cocaine.

0:41:14.080 --> 0:41:17.560
<v Speaker 1>And like, go read his review of the Star Wars

0:41:17.560 --> 0:41:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Holiday Special, because he goes on to describe exactly what

0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:21.360
<v Speaker 1>that must.

0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:21.600
<v Speaker 2>Have been like.

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:24.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, development meeting where the bag of cocaine is pacing

0:41:24.440 --> 0:41:26.920
<v Speaker 1>back and forth talking about what should happen.

0:41:27.280 --> 0:41:28.279
<v Speaker 2>That's what it feels like.

0:41:28.719 --> 0:41:30.280
<v Speaker 1>But it doesn't, and it ends.

0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:32.640
<v Speaker 2>Even more.

0:41:32.800 --> 0:41:35.520
<v Speaker 1>It takes this bizarre two hours and wraps it up

0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:37.040
<v Speaker 1>in just a nice bizarre bow.

0:41:37.480 --> 0:41:40.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So what happens is eventually Han Solo should we

0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:45.200
<v Speaker 2>say spoiler alert, Eventually Han Solo and Chewy make it

0:41:45.200 --> 0:41:47.600
<v Speaker 2>to the planet. They park on the far side of

0:41:47.640 --> 0:41:51.640
<v Speaker 2>the planet because they know the Imperial forces are there.

0:41:51.560 --> 0:41:54.160
<v Speaker 1>And the exercise will do Chewy good.

0:41:54.280 --> 0:41:55.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so they have to hike over there. They eventually

0:41:55.920 --> 0:41:59.040
<v Speaker 2>make it back home. They find a storm the Stormtroopers

0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:05.160
<v Speaker 2>at their house, their tree hut. Yeah, which way the

0:42:05.440 --> 0:42:07.560
<v Speaker 2>paintings that set this up, I don't think we mentioned

0:42:08.360 --> 0:42:10.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't even call him Matte paintings. It looks like

0:42:10.440 --> 0:42:13.120
<v Speaker 2>someone painted something on the wall and they just like

0:42:13.160 --> 0:42:15.360
<v Speaker 2>put a camera in front of it. Pretty much. Yeah.

0:42:15.440 --> 0:42:19.959
<v Speaker 2>So they get back and Chewbacca Han Solo hides around

0:42:19.960 --> 0:42:22.360
<v Speaker 2>the corner. Chewbacca steps in front of his son to

0:42:22.400 --> 0:42:27.480
<v Speaker 2>protect them. Sure, Han Solo jumps out, and the stormtrooper

0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:31.000
<v Speaker 2>trips over a pile of logs and falls over the

0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:33.960
<v Speaker 2>balcony and dies. In a holiday special. So they wouldn't

0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:37.520
<v Speaker 2>even not only could he not shoot first with Gredo,

0:42:37.719 --> 0:42:41.440
<v Speaker 2>but they couldn't even have him like wrestle the stormtrooper

0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:44.000
<v Speaker 2>and throw him off. He trips over a log.

0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:47.719
<v Speaker 1>And Han Solo has his hands thrown up like wasn't me?

0:42:47.920 --> 0:42:49.960
<v Speaker 2>It might have been a banana peel, you know.

0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:57.279
<v Speaker 1>But again, this is basically produced by Vodvillians starring vaudevillians.

0:42:57.480 --> 0:42:59.839
<v Speaker 1>Why not have the one death take place from base?

0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:03.360
<v Speaker 1>What amounts to somebody slipping on a banana peel exactly,

0:43:03.800 --> 0:43:06.960
<v Speaker 1>It's a perfect way to end it. So that's that

0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:10.200
<v Speaker 1>guy basically represents the end of the imperial threat for

0:43:10.239 --> 0:43:15.040
<v Speaker 1>the rest of Life Day. And we then see Life

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:19.080
<v Speaker 1>Day being celebrated, which is celebrated by lots of wookies

0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:23.680
<v Speaker 1>assembling in what looks like a giant Olin Mills portrait,

0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:30.239
<v Speaker 1>and all of them are wearing red robes. And I

0:43:30.280 --> 0:43:32.600
<v Speaker 1>know I'm up talking, and it's because my mind is

0:43:32.640 --> 0:43:37.240
<v Speaker 1>still having trouble like wrapping around us. And then Princess

0:43:37.280 --> 0:43:41.360
<v Speaker 1>Leah comes out with C three po is Mark Hamill.

0:43:41.360 --> 0:43:43.120
<v Speaker 2>There, the whole gang Zerophone, Okay, the.

0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Whole gangs there, And then they all gather around to

0:43:45.600 --> 0:43:49.560
<v Speaker 1>hear a great quote from Princess Leah which we will

0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:51.400
<v Speaker 1>read verbatim.

0:43:52.560 --> 0:43:55.560
<v Speaker 2>This holiday is yours, but we all share with you

0:43:55.719 --> 0:43:58.240
<v Speaker 2>the hope that this day brings us closer to freedom

0:43:58.280 --> 0:44:01.880
<v Speaker 2>into harmony and to peace. No matter how different we appear,

0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:04.560
<v Speaker 2>we're all the same in our struggle against the powers

0:44:04.560 --> 0:44:07.040
<v Speaker 2>of evil and darkness. I hope that this day will

0:44:07.080 --> 0:44:09.520
<v Speaker 2>always be a day of joy in which we can

0:44:09.880 --> 0:44:13.600
<v Speaker 2>reconfirm our dedication and our courage, and more than anything else,

0:44:13.640 --> 0:44:16.400
<v Speaker 2>our love for one another. This is the promise of

0:44:16.440 --> 0:44:18.880
<v Speaker 2>the Tree of Life Q song.

0:44:18.880 --> 0:44:21.279
<v Speaker 1>Right, And we should also point out the Tree of

0:44:21.320 --> 0:44:22.879
<v Speaker 1>Life has never been mentioned.

0:44:22.600 --> 0:44:24.440
<v Speaker 2>Up to this point. I had no idea whether it.

0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:26.759
<v Speaker 1>Takes a sudden appearance at the end. And when you

0:44:26.800 --> 0:44:30.320
<v Speaker 1>said Q song, by Q song, you mean Princess Leah

0:44:30.480 --> 0:44:31.360
<v Speaker 1>starts singing.

0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:35.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And apparently that was one of the big contingencies

0:44:35.360 --> 0:44:38.040
<v Speaker 2>on Carrie Fisher being involved. Yeah, she's going through a

0:44:38.040 --> 0:44:39.760
<v Speaker 2>phase where she was like, I kind of like singing.

0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:42.080
<v Speaker 1>Bruce Valanche calls it her Joni Mitchell period.

0:44:42.320 --> 0:44:45.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and she somehow convinced them to let her sing

0:44:45.560 --> 0:44:47.440
<v Speaker 2>as Princess Leah. And she does.

0:44:47.600 --> 0:44:51.120
<v Speaker 1>And again I've said that she looks like she's on drugs.

0:44:51.160 --> 0:44:52.960
<v Speaker 1>This is the point where she really does look like

0:44:53.000 --> 0:44:56.040
<v Speaker 1>she's on drugs. And it's not just me other writers

0:44:56.040 --> 0:45:00.600
<v Speaker 1>who've written reviews of this, it's really obvious that she

0:45:01.920 --> 0:45:05.080
<v Speaker 1>possibly smoked a decent amount of pot before she shot

0:45:05.200 --> 0:45:09.680
<v Speaker 1>this shot this scene, but she sings, Okay, it's fine,

0:45:09.800 --> 0:45:14.520
<v Speaker 1>it's just the fact that Princess Leia is singing. And actually,

0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:17.359
<v Speaker 1>Bruce Falanche had a really great quote too. He says

0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:20.360
<v Speaker 1>that she very much wanted to show this side of

0:45:20.400 --> 0:45:23.359
<v Speaker 1>her talent, and there was general dismay because this was

0:45:23.360 --> 0:45:26.200
<v Speaker 1>not what we wanted Princess Lea to be doing. Yeah,

0:45:26.320 --> 0:45:28.880
<v Speaker 1>she did it anyway. So the whole thing ends with

0:45:28.920 --> 0:45:31.520
<v Speaker 1>her singing this song about life day oh yeah, which

0:45:31.560 --> 0:45:36.319
<v Speaker 1>is set loosely to the John Williams Star Wars theme.

0:45:36.480 --> 0:45:40.919
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So along the way, the director original director quit,

0:45:41.280 --> 0:45:43.759
<v Speaker 2>A new director, Steve Binder, was hired to finish the

0:45:43.840 --> 0:45:47.080
<v Speaker 2>job and bring it in, and he did over the

0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:51.120
<v Speaker 2>original one million dollar budget. Of course, always he did

0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:54.960
<v Speaker 2>bring it in and at this point George Lucas said

0:45:55.840 --> 0:45:59.040
<v Speaker 2>he was working on Empire Strikes Back. He didn't know

0:45:59.080 --> 0:46:01.719
<v Speaker 2>what was going on. He wasn't around for the shoot. No,

0:46:01.800 --> 0:46:03.920
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't until it aired. I think that he actually

0:46:03.920 --> 0:46:07.640
<v Speaker 2>saw it. Yes, and it was a travesty obviously, if

0:46:07.640 --> 0:46:11.239
<v Speaker 2>you haven't noticed that by now. Critics hated it Star

0:46:11.280 --> 0:46:12.799
<v Speaker 2>Wars fans really hated it.

0:46:13.120 --> 0:46:15.239
<v Speaker 1>Everybody, the people who were in it hated it.

0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:16.400
<v Speaker 2>Lucas hated it.

0:46:16.880 --> 0:46:18.759
<v Speaker 1>Even Harvey Korman secretly hated it.

0:46:18.840 --> 0:46:22.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, even Harvey Keitel hated it. Actually he loved it.

0:46:22.800 --> 0:46:25.920
<v Speaker 2>But Lucas has been asked over the years about it

0:46:25.960 --> 0:46:28.440
<v Speaker 2>a lot, and he doesn't talk about it much. But

0:46:28.480 --> 0:46:30.400
<v Speaker 2>in two thousand and five, and I don't buy this

0:46:30.400 --> 0:46:33.640
<v Speaker 2>for a second, he says it was an interview He

0:46:33.719 --> 0:46:37.120
<v Speaker 2>said especial from nineteen seventy eight. I really didn't have

0:46:37.320 --> 0:46:39.479
<v Speaker 2>much to do with us. You know that part is true.

0:46:39.880 --> 0:46:41.759
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember what network it was even on, but

0:46:42.480 --> 0:46:44.719
<v Speaker 2>it was a thing that they did. That's a lie.

0:46:44.800 --> 0:46:46.959
<v Speaker 2>There's no way he doesn't know. That was CBS. Yeah,

0:46:47.880 --> 0:46:49.840
<v Speaker 2>we kind of just let them do it. I believe

0:46:49.880 --> 0:46:52.359
<v Speaker 2>that it was done by I can't even remember who

0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:55.200
<v Speaker 2>the group was, but there were variety TV guys. I'm

0:46:55.200 --> 0:46:57.839
<v Speaker 2>sure he remembers a few of them. We let them

0:46:57.920 --> 0:46:59.640
<v Speaker 2>use the characters and stuff, and that probably wasn't the

0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:02.399
<v Speaker 2>smartest thing to do, but you learn from those experiences.

0:47:02.560 --> 0:47:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:47:03.120 --> 0:47:06.480
<v Speaker 2>I think they even use some of the footage from

0:47:06.640 --> 0:47:09.080
<v Speaker 2>the movie at the end. It looks like some of

0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:10.600
<v Speaker 2>the space like a highlight reel.

0:47:10.800 --> 0:47:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the Gang.

0:47:12.600 --> 0:47:15.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, and during the it looked like some of the

0:47:15.600 --> 0:47:19.279
<v Speaker 2>they had some insert shots of like Imperial cruisers and

0:47:19.360 --> 0:47:20.719
<v Speaker 2>tie fighters and stuff.

0:47:20.440 --> 0:47:23.960
<v Speaker 1>That, yeah, likes from remember when when Chewbacca like leans

0:47:24.000 --> 0:47:26.200
<v Speaker 1>back and puts his hands behind it. Yeah, yeah, that's

0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:28.480
<v Speaker 1>in there. It's it's like a just a highlight reel

0:47:28.640 --> 0:47:30.839
<v Speaker 1>from the movie. Saying like I feel like this, go

0:47:30.920 --> 0:47:31.479
<v Speaker 1>see the movie.

0:47:31.520 --> 0:47:34.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, and also that means it doesn't match the look

0:47:34.200 --> 0:47:35.080
<v Speaker 2>of the rest of it at all.

0:47:35.160 --> 0:47:35.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's true.

0:47:35.800 --> 0:47:36.680
<v Speaker 2>It's just sort of inserted.

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<v Speaker 1>They tried, They definitely tried. And George Lucas is totally

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<v Speaker 1>full of it, because in nineteen eighty seven he told

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<v Speaker 1>star Log magazine that the Christmas Special would be out

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<v Speaker 1>on video cassette very soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And in two thousand and seven, two.

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<v Speaker 1>Years after that quote, you just read where he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what you're talking about. Basically, he

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<v Speaker 1>apparently considered releasing The Christmas Special as a bone us

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<v Speaker 1>on the DVDs of the first three.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, but did not didn't And apparently Carrie Fisher told

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<v Speaker 2>Lucas that, if you want me to do DVD extras commentary, Yeah, commentary.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I want a clean original copy of the Holiday Special? Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>so why go ahead so I can play at parties

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<v Speaker 2>what I want people to leave. It's pretty great.

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<v Speaker 1>It is so and there is one of those clean

0:48:27.680 --> 0:48:30.239
<v Speaker 1>copies is floating around out there, so you can watch

0:48:30.280 --> 0:48:34.000
<v Speaker 1>this in its entirety. Some of it, like the cartoon,

0:48:34.160 --> 0:48:37.080
<v Speaker 1>was removed due to copyright infringement and that kind of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>but as the case with the rest of the Internet,

0:48:40.120 --> 0:48:42.440
<v Speaker 1>you can just go find it elsewhere and piece it together.

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<v Speaker 1>There's also the original ads that aired in Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that are just fascinating. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are always fun GM ads where one of the

0:48:52.680 --> 0:48:55.920
<v Speaker 1>guys who's in quality control is he says, did you

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<v Speaker 1>watch it?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I saw that one.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes, we really care about these cars. That's no

0:49:00.480 --> 0:49:04.520
<v Speaker 1>jibe man on a GM and he's like, it's serious.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh they're trying to be hip.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's pretty good stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's my final thought on it. I love it. It

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<v Speaker 2>does not taint my Star Wars experience or my love

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<v Speaker 2>for the franchise. Okay, and I'm glad it is out

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<v Speaker 2>there because it's a it's a fun little stain that

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't be taken too seriously. I think it adds to

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<v Speaker 2>it actually, because it's campy and awful. Yeah, and I

0:49:31.760 --> 0:49:35.040
<v Speaker 2>don't know somehow that enriches the rest of it. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>with you, you like it? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I watched it twice. I wouldn't watched

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<v Speaker 1>it a second. I wouldn't have made it through the

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<v Speaker 1>first time. Let me take that back, as I'm a pro. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I would have made it through the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have watched it the second time if I wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>There wasn't something about it, and I figured out. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the thing that I like the most about it

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<v Speaker 1>is Lumpy, Chewbacca's son, Yeah, played by an actress named

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<v Speaker 1>Patty Maloney, who frankly is hands down the best act

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<v Speaker 1>in the entire thing. She like her responses and everything

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<v Speaker 1>is just awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>I think my favorite parts are, well, there's a great

0:50:09.680 --> 0:50:13.200
<v Speaker 2>Wilhelm scream. Yes that's troop for trips over the law.

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry would not have noticed it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there's a part where all the wikie dialogue

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<v Speaker 2>you can't understand, but there's clearly one part where where

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<v Speaker 2>Itchy and Lumpy are having exchange where Lumpy you can

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<v Speaker 2>make it out goes I love you. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's covered up. But someone was like, we have

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<v Speaker 2>to have at least one exchange where you sort of

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<v Speaker 2>know what they're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, or they were like, I think she has said

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<v Speaker 1>I love you. Should we have them redo it? And

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<v Speaker 1>the director's like, no, I want to go and Chuck.

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<v Speaker 1>There's one other thing that I figured out from watching this.

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<v Speaker 1>What's that it's not readily apparent the whole thing is

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<v Speaker 1>made all the more odd, and that there's situation after

0:50:52.239 --> 0:50:56.920
<v Speaker 1>situation after situation where we, as normal audiences, were trained

0:50:56.960 --> 0:51:00.399
<v Speaker 1>to expect the laugh track, but there's not a laugh track. Yeah,

0:51:00.480 --> 0:51:03.560
<v Speaker 1>and there's been a laugh track. Yeah, it might have

0:51:03.640 --> 0:51:08.240
<v Speaker 1>been less bizarre. Yeah, but the fact that it's missing

0:51:08.360 --> 0:51:11.480
<v Speaker 1>just makes your agitates the mind. So it's this whole

0:51:11.560 --> 0:51:13.359
<v Speaker 1>additional element that it is weird.

0:51:13.400 --> 0:51:15.360
<v Speaker 2>I never thought about that. There's just weird moments of

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<v Speaker 2>silence all throughout it.

0:51:16.480 --> 0:51:18.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like when Art Carney's doing his thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm telling jokes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, I agree with you, Chuck.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't take things too seriously. I think that's the great

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<v Speaker 2>lesson in this. Yeah, and then the Lesson of Life

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<v Speaker 2>day it is and in two thousand and seven, Riff

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<v Speaker 2>tracks a great Mystery science Theater. Three thousand guys Mike Nelson, BILLL. Corbett,

0:51:34.960 --> 0:51:39.480
<v Speaker 2>and Kevin Murphy provided audio commentary for the full version

0:51:39.480 --> 0:51:42.520
<v Speaker 2>of the special. So try and go grab that if

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<v Speaker 2>you can as well. Oh you can, it's on their

0:51:43.960 --> 0:51:45.840
<v Speaker 2>site because it's great. I think it's like eight bucks

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<v Speaker 2>and those guys are awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, at least I think Corbett listens to us. So, hey, Corbett,

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<v Speaker 1>you got anything else? No, No, I think we did this.

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<v Speaker 1>There's some good stuff. Go read the Vanity Fair article

0:52:02.239 --> 0:52:05.279
<v Speaker 1>Han Solo Comedy Hour. There's a book called How Star

0:52:05.320 --> 0:52:07.760
<v Speaker 1>Wars Conquered the Universe that has a very interesting chapter

0:52:07.800 --> 0:52:10.000
<v Speaker 1>about this. That's where we found it asserted that George

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<v Speaker 1>Lucas never said that he would smash this thing with

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<v Speaker 1>a sledgehammer, right, And there's also an entire website dedicated

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<v Speaker 1>to it, Star Wars Holidayspecial dot com. Yeah, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to know more about the Star Wars Holiday Special,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a ton of hart Star Wars stuff on

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, Yeah, we have cool, sort of fun

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<v Speaker 2>Found it's super interesting, especially the theories on its definition

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