1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: Wow, Wow, Hey and everybody. 2 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: It is Wednesday, May tenth, twenty twenty three. Welcome to 3 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 2: the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. But we're also probably better 4 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: in bestball. It's being your rand MG Marcus grand Joy 5 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 2: by Michael F. Floria. We're in studios, we got specialists. 6 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: Give yourselves around of applause. We really appreciate you guys 7 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 2: hanging out with us. As always, we got plenty to 8 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 2: talk about. I put together a list of chatter and 9 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: I had I actually put these schedule release thing third 10 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 2: on here, but I feel like, let's just schedule release, man. 11 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 2: It's it's apparently it's like a soft launch for the 12 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 2: schedule now or something. 13 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 3: I woke up and not only did I have notifications 14 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 3: that games had been announced, I had group chats going 15 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 3: where people were like already playing. And I'm like, hey, 16 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 3: maybe I'm wrong, because you know, I'm a little cynical, 17 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 3: and I'm like, we've known who's playing who for so long, 18 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 3: but people are excited and that's the whole point of me. 19 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: Could I be out of touch? No, it's the chilter 20 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: who are wrong. Yeah. No, they're starting to launch some 21 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 2: of these games. You might as well get into this 22 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: the international slate has been released. Week four, it'll be 23 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: Falcons against the Jaguars at Wimbley in London. Then the 24 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 2: very next week the Jaguars stay in London and they 25 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: will host or actually they're the road team right against 26 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 2: they are the road team. 27 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: And now although they are London's. 28 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 2: Teams, they are London's teams. So either way, the Jaguars 29 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 2: are in London back to back weeks. First they play 30 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 2: the Falcons, then they play the Bills. That's in week five. 31 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: In week six it'll be the Ravens and the Titans 32 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 2: from Tottenham Hotspur, and in week nine from Frankfurt, Germany, 33 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 2: the Dolphins and the Chiefs. And in week ten, so 34 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 2: back to back weeks in Germany as well, it's the 35 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: Colts and the Patriots. So those are the international games. 36 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: I'll say this, the Dolphins Chiefs, that feels like a 37 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: game they should be played in either Kansas City or Miami. 38 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 2: I mean it's kind of a big deal. 39 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 3: That's a big game. Yeah, that's a A lot of 40 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: these games are big ones though, And listen higher up, 41 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 3: if you're listening, and we know that you. 42 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: Are, you know that you are. 43 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 3: We would love to be there, you know me personally 44 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 3: October seventh, the Bill's Jags. That sounds like a fun one. 45 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 3: I would love to go to Germany eat some good 46 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 3: food there. So you know, we both got our passports 47 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 3: in case you need anyone. 48 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 2: They are up to date. We're ready to go. I 49 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: enjoy a good, warm ale, all of those things. I'm 50 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: a fan of Bombardier. I have been told by people 51 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 2: in the note that it is actually a legitimate quality 52 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: English beer. So you know we're here. We're here to help. 53 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 2: So those games are out. Also, we know that the 54 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 2: Black Friday matchup, the first ever in NFL history, is available, 55 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 2: not available, and it's known it's gonna be the Jets 56 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: and the Dolphins. So Aaron Rodgers primetime primetime ish. I 57 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 2: guess it'll be three o'clock Eastern time on Black Friday, 58 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: when hopefully everybody is back home from getting their discounted 59 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 2: TVs and stuff. 60 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 3: We'll be here here. But yeah, I know this is 61 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 3: the Aaron Rodgers effect for the Jets. Like I told 62 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 3: you group chats, I have a lot of Jet fan 63 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 3: friends back in New York and they were already planning 64 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 3: on going to this game. And I'm anticipating like at 65 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 3: least one Bill's Jets game will be primetime. So the 66 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 3: Jets going from getting like one TNF game a year 67 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 3: being their only prime time that life with Aaron Rodgers 68 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 3: is gonna be. 69 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: A lot different. I think I saw that they could 70 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 2: have up to six primetime games this year. 71 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 3: I believe is the limit, right. 72 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: I believe. So. So they've got the Black Friday game 73 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 2: against the Dolphins. Then on Christmas Day we got the 74 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: Giants and the Eagles. There's already a lot of trash 75 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: talk going back and forth between those two teams. And 76 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 2: then on New Year's Eve December thirty first, it's the 77 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: Bengals at the Chiefs, which should be epic if those 78 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: two teams live up to expectations. 79 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and if I'm thinking correctly, that's going to be 80 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 3: like Fantasy Championship Week. 81 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's week seventeen, so it's an afternoon game on 82 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: December thirty first. This could have major fantasy implications. 83 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 3: Oh, it's gonna people. New Year's Eves are gonna be 84 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 3: like made or ruined based on this game. Because if 85 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 3: you have like Patrick Mahomes or Tyreek Hill, You're You're 86 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 3: championship It's not gonna be decided by that game, but 87 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 3: you're gonna have a strong lean one way or the other. 88 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 2: Will either be having celebratory champagne or consolation champagne. That's 89 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: kind of how your nice is probably gonna go, depending 90 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: on what happens in Fantasy that week. So those are 91 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 2: the games that we know. The remainder of the schedule 92 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,799 Speaker 2: will be released on Thursday. There will be a three 93 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 2: hour special on NFL Network. Tune in for that please 94 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 2: and get the breakdown on who's out a tough schedule 95 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: who doesn't. For us, As you mentioned, we've known the 96 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 2: matchups for a while, and so for fantasy you kind 97 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: of have an idea of what players are playing, which 98 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: teams or whatever. We don't necessarily know the order just yet. 99 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 2: But when it comes time to schedule release, is there 100 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 2: anything in particular. 101 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: You look out for bye weeks? That's the big thing. 102 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 3: I am not a person who looks at the one. 103 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 3: I'm not a fantasy player who drafts based on schedule. 104 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 3: I know people will always be like, oh, you gotta 105 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 3: look for Week seventeen, and I get it in like 106 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 3: a best ball with a big tournament, you want to 107 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 3: look at stuff like that. But in a regular redraft 108 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 3: league or anything like that, you like, how hard is 109 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 3: it to plan two or three weeks ahead in fantasy football? 110 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 3: Try planning four months ahead. To me, I've had legitimate 111 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,239 Speaker 3: conversations where people are like, well, I want to draft 112 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 3: this running back over this one that I think is 113 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 3: better because I like his playoff schedule better. And I'm like, 114 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 3: we these defenses could be completely different. How many times 115 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 3: do we think a defense is going to be terrible 116 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 3: and they end up being pretty good, or we think 117 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 3: a defense could be good and then injuries. So yeah, 118 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 3: to me, it's really the bye weeks. And then I 119 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 3: think it's always fun to like the big key marquee 120 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 3: games to just kind of get excited for them. 121 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 2: But that's really all I do with the schedule. I mean, 122 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: bye weeks are the big ones there, you know. And 123 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 2: it's funny I in the past have sort of looked 124 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 2: at playoff schedules and you know, I've had to write 125 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 2: columns here and do videos about playoff schedules. But the 126 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 2: defenses are one of the least sticky things from year 127 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: to year in terms of defensive success. So you know, 128 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 2: some defenses that were good last year will be good 129 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 2: again this year. There will be some that were good 130 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 2: that last year that will be bad, and vice versa. 131 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 2: That's really hard to plan. And then you know, as 132 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 2: you mentioned, injuries are such a big part of this, right, 133 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,239 Speaker 2: Like the player you draft might get hurt. The defense 134 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: that you're going against might end up being better than 135 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 2: you anticipated. So what looks like a really great playoff 136 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 2: schedule in May might not look so great when you 137 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:30,799 Speaker 2: get to like November. 138 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 3: And I remember last year when the schedule came out, 139 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 3: people were like the Colts, Like, that's the team you want. 140 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 3: Look at their playoffs schedule. Look could they get in 141 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 3: week seventeen? And yeah, if you drafted a bunch of 142 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 3: Colts last year, your season was over by week six. 143 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 3: So like, who cares about week seventeen at that point? 144 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 2: Pretty much? But yeah, we will also, you know, kind 145 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 2: of be checking in to see what the schedule is, 146 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 2: and you know it'll be interesting to see. We'll get 147 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 2: to set up some revenge games and bad whole deal 148 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: that it's more fun for fans of teams, I think, 149 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 2: I think so, and I get it for fans like 150 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 2: you get to sort of plan trips. I know you know, 151 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 2: fans who travels to away games or want to see 152 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 2: their team come to whatever city. It's definitely a lot 153 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: more fun to kind of watch that and be able 154 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 2: to kind of book plane tickets and hotel reservations and 155 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 2: that sort of thing. So I sort of understand it 156 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: from that perspective. 157 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 3: Do you do the thing like will you go through 158 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 3: the Niner schedule and be like when, law I do 159 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 3: it every year and I'm like, why do I. 160 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: Do this time? Yeah? I shouldn't say no. I kind 161 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: of do, but I don't make a big deal out 162 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 2: of it. Maybe in my head, I'm like, no, I 163 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: see you know, I see ten wins, I see eleven wins. 164 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 2: Whatever it is. Yeah, but I don't. I don't do 165 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: it out loud. I don't do it publicly. Although you know, 166 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 2: Adam Rank for years got a lot of mileage a 167 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 2: couple of years ago out of saying the Niners were 168 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: going to be what like three and thirteen or two 169 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: and fourteen, and then they ended up in the. 170 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 3: Super Bowl where one Jimmy g passed away from being champions. 171 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 2: Pretty much, But yeah, Rank got a lot of a 172 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: lot of mileage out of that. I do know, for 173 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: the record that he has made amends with with Niners Nation. 174 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 2: Everything's cool, We've smoothed everything over. It's all good. Anyway. 175 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: That's enough of that. Some more chattering because there's not 176 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: actual news this time of year. It's more of you know, 177 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 2: things we're hearing or things we're reading. This one I 178 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: put it in here just for you, sir. The general 179 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: manager says he sees Kadarius Tony as a number one 180 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 2: wide receiver. Brett Viach says, the sky is the limit 181 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 2: for Kadarius Tony right now. If you go on you 182 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: know certain sites and look up ADPs underdog, Tony is 183 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: wide receiver number thirty seven. Overall, he's going off the 184 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 2: board right around number seventy seven. That's somewhere in around seven. 185 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:53,239 Speaker 2: But for you, in your wildest dreams, your unabashed standship 186 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 2: of Kadarius Tony, where do you have him ranked? 187 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 3: So I did this week run through the rankings. They're 188 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 3: up now on NFL dot com. And this is a 189 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 3: first draft. It is the middle of May, early May. 190 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 3: A lot's gonna change before you know, August, but as 191 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 3: of right now, I have Kadarius Tony as wide receiver 192 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 3: thirty one. So a little bit ahead of his adp 193 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 3: some names, He's just behind Chris Godwin, Tyler Lockett, Ayuk, 194 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 3: Mike Evans, ahead uh Pittman, Kirk, Deontae Johnson. I know 195 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 3: some people might like those, some of those other guys 196 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 3: more than Tony. I've also been kind of tweeting about 197 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 3: Tony lately, and Uh, people are not happy with me. 198 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 3: They're like, what are you gonna give this up? This 199 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 3: guy cannot stay healthy, he cannot stay on the field. 200 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 3: And I'm like, but if you look at when he 201 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 3: is on the field, one he earns targets at such 202 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 3: a high rate, and two he's extremely effective when he 203 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 3: gets those targets. The only issue is he hasn't been 204 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 3: able to stay on the field a whole lot. But 205 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 3: I think what gets overlooked is that the Chiefs were 206 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 3: hoping that they could have got Kadarius Tony in that 207 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 3: draft a couple of years ago. Then they traded the 208 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 3: one hundredth pick for him. Then they used to him 209 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 3: in their playoff run, and they when he was out there, 210 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 3: he was getting targets at a high clip so and 211 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 3: he caught the biggest touchdown for them in the Super Bowl, 212 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 3: like the Chiefs really like Kadarius Tony, is the point 213 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 3: that I'm making, And they've wanted to have him for 214 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 3: a while, and they themselves are saying, like, we get 215 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 3: a whole year now to game plan for him and 216 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 3: to design plays just for him, Andy Reid all of that. 217 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 3: So I like Kadarius Tony, But what I like even 218 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 3: more Marcus is like Rashi, Rice is still getting hype, 219 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 3: Sky Moore is getting hype because the Chiefs don't have 220 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 3: a true number one. It's gonna keep Tony's ADP down 221 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 3: a little bit if those other guys get hype. Like 222 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 3: I'm sure you saw it. A video came out on 223 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 3: Twitter or Rice burning a defensive back. The dude was 224 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 3: wearing a number fifteen jersey, which is Patrick Mahomes's number, 225 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 3: which tells you who he is on the roster. He's 226 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 3: a I don't know who the corner was, but I 227 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 3: don't think they have big plans for him. And people 228 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 3: are getting hyped up over one off season video. Let 229 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 3: his ADP go up and keep Kadarius Tony. 230 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 2: We are in, you know, get fired up over slow 231 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 2: motion practice vid season right now? You know, Like I 232 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 2: saw a video of Jordan Love if slow motion, Jordan 233 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 2: Love throwing an out pattern too, Jaden Reid and just 234 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 2: like I'm seeing, like the hype comments underth it was. 235 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 3: The least impressive video ever. 236 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 2: It was a basic, a basic pack practice out route, 237 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 2: like it was a warm up route, and it's getting 238 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: hyped up. So this is this is the silly season 239 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 2: that we have entered here. I will say this for me. 240 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 2: I've got Tony right now at wide receiver thirty. 241 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 3: Four, so we're right there together. 242 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 2: So we're pretty much right together. We're a little bit 243 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 2: above kind of where the consensus is on him right now. 244 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 2: I'm just of the opinion that the Chiefs are not 245 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 2: going to have one wide receiver that they lean on 246 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 2: right now. It's gonna be Travis Kelce. He's going to 247 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 2: get his you know, one hundred and thirty, one hundred 248 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 2: and fifty targets, whatever it's going to be, and then 249 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 2: you're gonna have everybody else sort of battling. Right, You're 250 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 2: gonna have Tony, who lookally Tony will probably be the 251 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: number two target in his offense as long as he's healthy. Right, 252 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 2: but you know, she Rice is going to get his 253 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 2: uh sky Moore. They're gonna figure I think some way 254 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 2: to sort of integrate him into this offense. Marquez Valdez Scantling, 255 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 2: for what it's worth, is still there on this roster. 256 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 2: I know he didn't necessarily make a big impact, but 257 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 2: he is still there. And this is the thing that 258 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 2: last year, you remember in training camp, Patrick Mahomes just 259 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: basically came out and said, Hey, fantasy managers, you're gonna 260 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 2: be frustrated with us because we're gonna spread the ball around. 261 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 2: And he was one hundred percent right. There was Travis Kelcey, 262 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 2: and then there were the Pips. Right, it was just 263 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 2: like everybody else. And I think it's gonna continue to 264 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 2: be that. So maybe Tony gets a little bit more 265 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 2: than everybody else, but it is going to be I mean, 266 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 2: it's going to be like a boy band, right, Like 267 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey's going to be Harry Styles and the rest 268 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 2: of these dudes are gonna be the rest of one direction. See. 269 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 3: I was gonna age myself. I was gonna say he's 270 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 3: justin Timberlake. 271 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 2: See I thought about that, but I'm like, you know, 272 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 2: somebody out there is gonna be like, how old are you? 273 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 2: And I'm like old, So I tried to make it. Also, 274 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 2: I did see something about One Direction come across my 275 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 2: time this point, So. 276 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 3: When you said Harry Styles, I was like, I think 277 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 3: One Direction, but I can't for one hundred percent certainty 278 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 3: tell you that's the band he's from. And I agree 279 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 3: with you. I think it's gonna be like a HAJJ 280 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 3: page where kind of like last year. But if anyone 281 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 3: plays that that juju role where they're a little bit 282 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 3: more consistent, I think it'll be Tony. And if you 283 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 3: were to I know I'm biased, but if you were 284 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 3: to say who has the best chance of breaking out 285 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 3: and being a difference maker, to me, I think Tony 286 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 3: has to be the favorite to be that on the Chiefs, 287 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 3: I think so too. And I'm not I know, as 288 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 3: you mentioned, a lot of people are saying, but he 289 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 3: can't stay healthy, Like I'm not gonna use that. 290 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: I know that's it has been the story of his career. 291 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: But we've said it before. You're injury prone until you're not, which. 292 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 3: To me, I know I say this all the time, 293 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 3: but if you could be injury prone until you're not, 294 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 3: injury prone is a useless label that just uses stuff 295 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 3: that happened in the past to try to project the future. 296 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 3: It doesn't actually indicate anything of future. Like I would 297 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 3: like to talk to an actual doctor and if they 298 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 3: were like, hey, Kadarius Tony's injuries are gonna hamper him forever, Okay, 299 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 3: then that's one thing. But I think a lot of 300 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 3: the times in fantasy, we're just like this guy got 301 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 3: hurt in the past, He's gonna keep getting hurt. 302 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 2: Past performance is not an indicator of future performance necessarily, 303 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 2: So so all right, Kadarius Tony. The hype train I 304 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: think will continue to roll, though maybe we'll be tempered 305 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 2: by the fact that people are like, I don't know, 306 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 2: excited about Rashi Rice or something. People are definitely excited 307 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 2: about Justin Fields. And according to Bears offensive coordinator Luke Getzi, 308 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 2: Fields is already quote light years ahead of this time 309 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 2: last year. And this is a lot because Fields, without 310 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 2: being a great passer, without having a ton of weapons 311 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 2: to throw to still finish the year last year is 312 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 2: what quarterbacks six overall I believe it was. Yeah, QB 313 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 2: six is where he finished ran for eleven hundred yards, 314 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: had eight touchdowns on the ground, just threw for twenty 315 00:14:56,080 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 2: two hundred yards and change. Only seventeen passing touchdowns. So 316 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 2: if he could end up as a top six quarterback 317 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 2: without being a great passer, and according to the OC 318 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 2: is light years ahead, what are we talking about? Top 319 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 2: three QB one, what are we talking about? 320 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 3: I think QB one is his ceiling. But I'm not 321 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 3: gonna say like he's the favorite to be the QB 322 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 3: one or anything. But to me, there's less than ten 323 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 3: quarterbacks that have a chance of finishing as the QB 324 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 3: one in fantasy this year, and Justin Fields is one 325 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 3: of them. Like I think Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts, Patrick Mahomes, 326 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson, Justin Fields, Deshaun Watson, if he can go back, 327 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 3: turn the clock back, Joe Burrow, I would say yes, 328 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 3: Justin Herbert. But those quarterbacks have to be perfect because 329 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 3: they're not gonna run nearly as much. So to be 330 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 3: the QB one, you need to be off the like 331 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers twenty twenty whatever. The first MVP season he 332 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 3: had where he threw like forty four touchdowns four interceptions, 333 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 3: off the charts efficient was like the QB six in fantasy, right, 334 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 3: because you don't If you don't run, it's just so 335 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 3: hard to get to that QB one. So while I 336 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 3: have Fields ranked as my QB six, I don't think 337 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 3: like his floor is as safe as a Joe Burrow. 338 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 3: I do think the ceiling is actually higher because if 339 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 3: he could give you anywhere close to what he gave 340 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 3: you with his legs last year and then take that 341 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 3: next step as a passer, and even forget what the 342 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 3: OC is saying, just having Dj Moore there with Darnel 343 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 3: Mooney and Claypool, like, I think it will lead to 344 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 3: better pass results for justin Fields. So to me, it 345 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 3: depends the passing is gonna determine how highly he could finish. 346 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 3: But I do think he has a chance to be 347 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 3: the QB one. 348 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 2: He's being drafted right now as the QB five. I've 349 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 2: got him a QB seven, but that's not in Stone 350 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 2: like I can, you know, I can definitely kind of 351 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 2: flip that around. 352 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 3: Give Herbert ahead of him. 353 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: I've got no So, I've got Alan Hurtz, Mahomes Jackson, 354 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 2: I've got Burrow, and I've got Lawrence because I'm really 355 00:16:58,280 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 2: high on Trevor Lawrence. 356 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 3: Right to me, Fields, Herbert and Lawrence were three that 357 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 3: I keep debating. 358 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 2: We've got Herbert just behind Fields. Okay, so we're right there, 359 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 2: right there, And like I said, again, this is may. 360 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 2: Things will change. It's not set in stone. I feel 361 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: like though, that's sort of a safe I guess floor 362 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 2: if you will for Fields, I mean, I think unless 363 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 2: things go completely sideways, he's going to continue to be 364 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: a QB one, he's going to continue to be a 365 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 2: top ten quarterback. I think in a lot of regards, 366 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 2: you know, it's just how much does he actually advance 367 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 2: as a passer? Does do these new weapons make a 368 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 2: big difference? And I think it will. I would guess, 369 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: you know, looking at nine hundred one thousand yards on 370 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 2: the ground, if he can get you twenty five hundred 371 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 2: twenty seven hundred passing yards and get to twenty touchdowns, 372 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 2: top three is certainly not not on reason. 373 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 3: And we have the same top eight. To me, I think, 374 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 3: no matter what order you have him in, like those 375 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 3: should be your top eight. And I think there's a drop. 376 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 2: Off after that. Yeah, because at that point, I mean 377 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 2: I've got I've got Deshaun Watson's same. 378 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 3: I don't feel great about it. 379 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 2: I don't feel great about it, But like the guys after, 380 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 2: like Sean Watson, like you know, Dak and Daniel Jones 381 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 2: and Kirk cut Like it's just yeah exactly. 382 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 3: So like in drafts, I think for the first time ever, 383 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 3: you should prioritize getting a top quarterback, like maybe not 384 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 3: the top three who you have to use, like a 385 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 3: top three round pick Togain, but like, I don't want 386 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 3: to Deshaun Watson would be like my emergency, Like if 387 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 3: I miss out the top eight, I'll take a shot 388 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 3: on him. But I don't ideally wouldn't want to be 389 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 3: going into the season with like Tua or Rogers or Dak, 390 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 3: Like I just feel like there's better quarterbacks than I 391 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 3: want to be in on them. 392 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 2: If those are your qb ones, then you are almost 393 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 2: forced to draft a second quarterback. Ye at that point, 394 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 2: you know, if you are going into the season and 395 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 2: Dak Prescott for instance, is your QB one, you know, 396 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 2: I'm also gonna try to come around and I don't 397 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 2: know if I'm drafting a Jared Goff, you know, if 398 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 2: i'mfting Anthony Richardson, I was gonna say, Anthony Richardson, that's 399 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 2: the one for me. 400 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 3: Like if I don't get one of the top eight 401 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 3: and I get I would just because it's just upside 402 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 3: for the QB. That's all I want. 403 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 2: You know, Anthony Richardson can be potentially this year what 404 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 2: Justin Fields was last year. YEA, a guy who is 405 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 2: very raw as a passer but can give you those 406 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 2: rushing yards. And if he can get you again nine 407 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 2: hundred thousand, eleven hundred yards, get you eight touchdowns on 408 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 2: the ground, you're gonna feel pretty good about what he does. 409 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 3: This sounds wild. Then I tweeted it out yesterday and 410 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 3: I don't think the results are in my favor. But 411 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 3: I ranked Anthony Richardson as the QB thirteen and I 412 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 3: think that was fifteen. 413 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 2: I said. 414 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 3: I was like, I'm not telling you he's gonna finish 415 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 3: his QB thirteen, but this is how I rank, how 416 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 3: I would draft, and after the QB ones, I go 417 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 3: for upside with QB twos, and I don't think the 418 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 3: only one. I'm like, Daniel Jones and him are kind 419 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 3: of closed because Jones can run as well, but I 420 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 3: don't think Jones is gonna rush for as much as 421 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson does. 422 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 2: Probably not, but I think Jones will throw for more 423 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 2: yards and more touchdowns than Anthony Richardson, but I've got 424 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 2: him as QB fifteen because I think the upside is 425 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 2: huge on a guy like Richardson, So I don't think 426 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 2: it's crazy. You know. Again, this is one of those 427 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 2: things where may people are gonna like yell at you 428 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 2: and and they're gonna, you know, send out angry tweets, 429 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: and then we'll get to August and like, you know, 430 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson will be coming off the boarder is like 431 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 2: QB thirteen, and then you will have. 432 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 3: QB on a certain best ball site, right wow, switch 433 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 3: a certain K nine theme best ball site. 434 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, uh, you know, then you will have your 435 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 2: come up and your come up and we'll be had. Uh. 436 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 2: Let's turn focus because last week we sort of recap 437 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 2: the last couple of days of the draft. Wanted to 438 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 2: come back this week and talk about some veteran winners 439 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 2: and losers. Figure we break it down into the guys 440 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 2: who won and the guys who lost. Maybe we should 441 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 2: have started with losers, but that's not how I wrote 442 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 2: this out. So we're just gonna do it the way 443 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 2: I wrote it. By the way, I didn't even mention 444 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 2: it the start of the show. Florial's Film Festival is back. 445 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we'll get to that a little bit. There's 446 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 2: a lot of excitement in the building about what we watched, 447 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 2: a lot of conversation before the show. But anyway, veteran 448 00:20:55,720 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 2: winners and losers. Uh the winners. Desmond Ritter sort of 449 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 2: weirdly won in this. You know, there had been some 450 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 2: chatter that maybe, just maybe the Falcons could consider a quarterback. 451 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 2: I know they said they were out on the Lamar 452 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 2: Jackson sweepstakes, but you know, people like to talk, and 453 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 2: they thought maybe they could still go after a quarterback. Instead, 454 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 2: the Falcons got and draft b Jeon Robinson in the 455 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 2: first high first round pick. They got in to get 456 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 2: an offensive lineman to help kind of shore up that 457 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 2: offensive line. They've already got Kyle Pitts, They've already got 458 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 2: Drake London, so the weapons seemed to be in place 459 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 2: in that offense. Does any of this make Desmond Ridder draftable? 460 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 3: Probably is nothing more than like a low end QB two, 461 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 3: But I think there's upside. I think he's more of 462 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 3: like a super flex kind of quarterback. But I think 463 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 3: there's more upside here, and I think the offense certainly 464 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 3: is going to be better with Desmond Ridder. My only 465 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 3: concern is are they just gonna They were already one 466 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 3: of the run heaviest teams in football. Now with Bijon, 467 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 3: are we just Which is why it pains me to 468 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 3: say this. I'm souring a little on Kyle. I think 469 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:12,239 Speaker 3: he thought amazing and we all know that, but like 470 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 3: I don't. I we know how frustrating it was last year, 471 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 3: and I don't see any reason to think. 472 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 2: It'll be different. I get that, I do get that. 473 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 2: I think though some of that concern has sort of 474 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 2: been baked into his ADP right now. Right now, his 475 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 2: ADP is right around sixty sixty three, So you're talking 476 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 2: about round five, which minimizes some of the risks. Last year, 477 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 2: we were taking Kyle Pitts in like round three, right 478 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 2: and like I heard people say they took him late 479 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 2: in round two, which means you did miss out on 480 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,239 Speaker 2: a lot. If you drafted Kyle Pitts this year, if 481 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 2: he's round five, maybe even round six, I think what 482 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 2: you're missing out on to draft him is minimal. I 483 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 2: still believe in the talent and and I don't know, 484 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 2: maybe this is just me. Maybe I'm ready for Lucy 485 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 2: to pull the football away again. But I just believe 486 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 2: that either Arthur Smith's gonna look at it or somebody's 487 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 2: gonna sit Arthur Smith down and be like, you have 488 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 2: two weapons in the passing game, get them the football. 489 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 2: I know you have Bejon, and I know you want 490 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 2: to run the ball. You know eighty percent of the 491 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 2: time if you could, you have these two weapons, you 492 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 2: have to use them. So that's part of me maybe 493 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 2: just being stubborn. There's no there's no statistic to back 494 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 2: that up. It's just a feeling. Really. 495 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 3: I'm still holding out hope though that because right now, look, 496 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 3: if you're drafting right now, you're one of the crazies 497 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 3: like us. I'm hoping that when the more casual the 498 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 3: people who are like I don't want Kyle Pitts on 499 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 3: my team after what he did to me last year. 500 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 3: I'm hoping because a lot of the times hype guys 501 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 3: we see get pulled up in August, I'm hoping the 502 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 3: reverse effect happens for Kyle Pitts. 503 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 2: I think it will. I think when you get more 504 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 2: casual players coming in later in the summer, they're gonna 505 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 2: be like, you idiots told me to draft Kyle Pitts 506 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 2: and he ruined my season and I lost. Screw you guys, 507 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 2: I'm going home. I do think that ADP is gonna 508 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 2: come down once you get a lot more casual players 509 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 2: who have long memories. They start to show up here. 510 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 2: Gino Smith definitely a winner. They go and add some 511 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 2: running back help. They get Zach Sharboney. They go out 512 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 2: and drave Jack Jackson Smith in Jigba, which actually that 513 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 2: presser should have been the headline there. They get jays In, 514 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 2: they go as Zach Sharboney. They have kind of gone 515 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 2: all in on Geno Smith as their quarterback. You know, 516 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 2: he gets a new deal, he gets some weapons. Can 517 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 2: he be AQB one again? I mean, this is a 518 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 2: guy who was a top ten quarterback last year. Did 519 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 2: he catch lightning at a bottle? Or can he do it again? No? 520 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 3: I think he could do it again. I think one 521 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 3: Gino is not the same Geno that. 522 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 2: He was years ago. 523 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 3: He's obviously developed a lot as a player. I think 524 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 3: he is in a system that is really really friendly 525 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 3: and fits his strengths. And the weapons got even better, 526 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 3: like now they have JSN wide receiver. One in this class, 527 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 3: who's going to be their number three. I keep saying, like, 528 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 3: I don't know why we're hearing the demise talk for 529 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 3: Tyler Lockett. Like every metric last year, Tyler Lockett was 530 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 3: better than DK Metcalf, Like he had more Fantasy points too, 531 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 3: despite much fewer targets. He had more touchdowns despite like 532 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 3: ten fewer end zone targets. Tyler Lockett is a really 533 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 3: good running receiver. DK Metcalf is such a big playmaker 534 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 3: that then you add JSN into this. I don't have 535 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 3: Geno ranked as a QB one because I think his 536 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 3: upside is more is like a low end QB one, 537 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 3: so I tend to put guys like Anthony Richardson who 538 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 3: have a little bit more upside higher. But yeah, I 539 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 3: easily think he could be top twelve, top ten. 540 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 2: Again, I was gonna be outraged for a second because 541 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 2: I see that he's coming off the board as QB sixteen. 542 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 2: I was like, how dare you? And then I went 543 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 2: back to my rankings and I have him ranked this 544 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 2: QB sixteen, So I can't really be upset about it, 545 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 2: but it does sort of you know, there's a disconnect there, 546 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 2: right because this is a guy who was the QB 547 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 2: five last year, it did it without a whole lot 548 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 2: of rushing attempt a whole lot of rushing yards, had 549 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 2: three hundred and sixty six rushing yards, just one rushing touchdown, 550 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 2: but through for forty two hundred yards, had thirty touchdowns 551 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 2: through the air, and I do think that those numbers 552 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 2: can be repeated. As you mentioned, I mean, they add Jackson, 553 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 2: Smith and Jig, but they have gotten better on offense. 554 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 2: And now you know, I think they're all comfortable, right 555 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 2: because I keep saying this. Gino wasn't supposed to be 556 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 2: their starter at the beginning of last season. It was 557 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 2: going to be Drew Locke. He stepped in did an 558 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 2: amazing job with it, so I think he'll I think 559 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 2: he'll continue to be successful. James Cook, you as our 560 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 2: resident Bills fan. Here they go and signed Damien Harris, 561 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 2: but they didn't draft anybody they really compete. The Bills 562 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 2: have this weird habit of collecting pass catching running backs 563 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 2: and not throwing them to the football. But what do 564 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 2: you see as James Cook's role in Buffalo this year? 565 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 3: I think he's going to be the lead back for them, 566 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 3: and he's a breakout candidate won that I know I've 567 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 3: seen some people hyping up Damien Harris, and I'm like, 568 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 3: I'll continue to do so because I want all the 569 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 3: James Cook that I can get. Because Cook is explosive, 570 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 3: he could run between the tackles, but he's also a 571 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 3: good pass catcher. And something that I've talked about a 572 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 3: lot on this podcast is Sean McDermott and the Bills, 573 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 3: probably more than any team in the NFL, truly believe 574 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 3: in a rookie wall and last year with their first 575 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 3: and second round pick, their first round pick being Elam 576 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 3: the cornerback second round pick was Cook, they didn't use 577 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 3: either of them really consistently until the last part of 578 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 3: the season and then in the playoffs. So I think 579 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 3: this in year two, we're gonna see Cook kind of 580 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 3: set free. I think Harris is there to be like 581 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 3: the short yardage guy. That's my concern if he's gonna 582 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 3: vulture the touchdowns. But you get James Cook as an 583 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 3: RB three, and I. 584 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 2: Think the upside is much much higher than that. I mean, 585 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 2: as an RB three, I would love James Cook and 586 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 2: I just I just want him to be involved in 587 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 2: the passing game. That's all I'm asking for. It's just 588 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 2: the same, just throwing the ball a little bit. I 589 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 2: do have him as kind of a low end or 590 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 2: a high end RB. I should say I got him 591 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 2: at twenty nine right now, so I just, you know, 592 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 2: I just want clarity, and that's something the Bills have 593 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 2: not offered us a lot of. But he is in 594 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 2: line to be the guy there in Buffalo in that 595 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 2: more than anything else is encouraging. 596 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 3: I have him at twenty eight. We're in lots, I know, right, 597 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 3: I promise you. 598 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 2: But we did not consult with each other on these 599 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 2: It just sort of has worked out that way. Which 600 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 2: I was gonna do a show about like rankings and 601 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 2: where we disagree, and I feel like that's gonna be 602 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 2: a pretty boring show. Cam Acres still sitting pretty in 603 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 2: Los Angeles. You know the Rams. Obviously, they didn't have 604 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 2: a ton of draft picks, they have salary cap issues. 605 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 2: They're sort of kind of a mess in trying to 606 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 2: rebuild this thing. After the Super Bowl win a couple 607 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 2: of seasons ago. Acres started slowly during the year, but 608 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 2: late in the season really picked things up and finished 609 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 2: very strong in the last five or six weeks of 610 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 2: the season. Last year looks for the moment, like he's 611 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 2: going to sort of be the guy they got hiring 612 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 2: Williams there. They did draft someone kind of late in 613 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 2: this in the draft, But I'm more curious about Acres himself. 614 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 2: Who is the real cam Akers. Is it the guy 615 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 2: that struggled at the start of the year or is 616 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 2: the guy who got hot at the end of the year. 617 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 2: I think it's the guy who got hot at. 618 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 3: The end of the year because he missed all the 619 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 3: season before with that torn achilles and then early on 620 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 3: in the year they were kind of it was him 621 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 3: and Henderson, and remember we were like joking daily on 622 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 3: this show. It felt like like Sean McVay doesn't even 623 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 3: know who his lead running back is gonna be. And 624 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 3: then Acres was in the doghouse and wasn't even used 625 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 3: a couple of times. And then after they worked all 626 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 3: of their disagreements out and he didn't get traded and everything, 627 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 3: he went off. And I think it coincides with him 628 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 3: getting the opportunity from Sean McVay while also getting that 629 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 3: extra time to recover from that achilles injury, which I 630 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 3: think people have you as like a Tony acl in 631 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 3: the same light, and it's like no. A torn achilles is, 632 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 3: in my opinion, the worst injury you could suffer in sports, 633 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 3: and it's like Akers and Kevin Durant are the success 634 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 3: stories of coming back. So to me, seeing him play 635 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 3: so well down the stretch has me feeling encouraged. I 636 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 3: have him right now as the RB nineteen, but I 637 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 3: feel like I like him more than that ranking indicates. 638 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 2: So this is where we sorted there. I got him 639 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 2: at twenty four. Okay, I just you know what Cooper 640 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 2: cups back. They did draft Zach Evans from Mississippi, but 641 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,239 Speaker 2: he was also sixth round picks. It's not like, you know, 642 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 2: he's going to necessarily demand opportunity to get on the 643 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 2: field there. I mean, he will have to earn it 644 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 2: in training camp. I just think that this offense is 645 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 2: going to be I don't think it's going to be 646 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 2: as bad. I don't think it can be as bad 647 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 2: as it was last year, And with Cooper cup back, 648 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 2: that takes a lot of opportunity away potentially from Camp Akers. 649 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 2: But I do think he is closer to the guy 650 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 2: we saw at the end of the season what we 651 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 2: saw at the beginning of the season. For what that's worth, 652 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 2: Traylon Burks. I thought for all the world that the 653 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 2: Titans were going to draft wide receivers because they need 654 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 2: wide receivers in the worst possible way. But it appears 655 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 2: that they didn't really feel that way. They drafted a 656 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 2: receiver in the seventh round, Colton Dowell from Tennessee Martin. 657 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 2: So right now, Traylon Burks is sort of it at 658 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 2: least at wide receiver. They got Chikakonko, who I know 659 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 2: a lot of us like at tight end. We talked 660 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 2: before about how potentially bad this offense can be. But 661 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 2: for Burks as the lead target, the main target, what's 662 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 2: his ceiling this year? 663 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm probably too low on him because 664 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 3: of the opportunities. He could get a lot of targets, 665 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 3: but he's also going to be the main focal point 666 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 3: of defenses. I have him ranked his wide receiver thirty seven. 667 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 3: I feel like that might be a little low, but 668 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,959 Speaker 3: it's in this big cluster. There's like a cluster of 669 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 3: like fifteen twenty wide receivers that I think you could 670 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 3: kind of jumble up. The thing is, I'm really fearful 671 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 3: of this offense just completely tanking. So I think I'm 672 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 3: just gonna be lower on most Titans than a lot 673 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 3: of people because I'm seeing some love for Ryan Tannehill 674 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 3: out there, and I'm like, Ryan Tannehill is good when 675 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 3: you have pieces in place. I don't think they really do. 676 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 3: And then I think if things go, you know, the way, 677 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 3: they don't want him too early on in Tennessee, like 678 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 3: we could see a switch to will Levis, especially if 679 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 3: the Titans are really tanking like, because then they want 680 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 3: to know what they have in will Levis. So I 681 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,719 Speaker 3: don't know, I see a lot of there is upside 682 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 3: here with Burkes because he's a receiver that I like 683 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 3: his skill set and he should get a lot of volume. 684 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 3: But I just I don't know. I see a lot 685 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 3: of pitfalls in his way as well. Wait, I'm wondering 686 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 3: where you have him ranked. 687 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 2: So if you say you're too low on him, then 688 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 2: that makes me feel worse because I've got him at 689 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 2: thirty eight. You got a thirty seven, I've got him 690 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 2: at thirty eight. Again, lockstep, We're pretty much we're pretty much, 691 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 2: you know, walking side by side on this one. Just 692 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 2: because I think the upside for Traylon Burks is that 693 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,959 Speaker 2: as the main target we know that Ryan Tannehill can 694 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 2: support at least one target in the offense. I think 695 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 2: he ends up having that job all year long, unless 696 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 2: you know, something happens injury wise, then maybe we see 697 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 2: Will Levis. But I think they're gonna let let Tannehill 698 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 2: sort of ride it out in whatever. This possibly his 699 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 2: swan song there in Tennessee. Burks is gonna get a 700 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 2: ton of targets, but I just don't see this offense 701 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 2: being very productive or scoring a lot of touchdowns. And 702 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 2: if you know these rumors happen and they move on 703 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 2: from Derrick Henry at some point during the season, that 704 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 2: offense gets even worse, and I think they're even less productive, 705 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 2: which again sort of impacts Burkes and what his potential is. 706 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 2: So I'm just not excited about it. It falls under 707 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 2: the category of hey man, somebody's got to catch the ball, 708 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 2: which to me is just not always a sound way 709 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 2: to draft players. That's it Remindre Stevenson, which I think 710 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 2: we're all sort of happy about because we loved what 711 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 2: he did last season, and we were very big on 712 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 2: Stevenson seasons and and it appears it is Stevenson seasonson 713 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 2: once again. Damien Harris is gone. The Patriots did not 714 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 2: draft any running backs. They did, you know, make some 715 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 2: offseason moves. But Ken Stevenson, I mean, this might be 716 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 2: the silliest question here. Is he an RB one this year? Yes? 717 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,359 Speaker 3: Like I know people were trying to knock Stevenson what 718 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 3: he did last year and saying like, oh, it was 719 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 3: because Damien Harris got hurt and stuff like, no, he's 720 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 3: better than Damien Harrison, like they let him walk. I 721 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 3: have Stevenson as the RB ten right now, and he 722 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 3: might even get boosted up. The only concern was like, 723 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 3: are they gonna drive Bijon because there was a lot 724 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 3: of rumors about that. 725 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:39,760 Speaker 2: They didn't. 726 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 3: They didn't take Gibbs, and that's it. There's like Stevenson's 727 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 3: gonna get all the volume there. He's gonna get all 728 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 3: the carry targets out of the backfield on a Patriots 729 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 3: offense that probably cannot be worse than it was last year. 730 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 2: That's probably true. I've got him at fifteen, but I'm 731 00:34:55,239 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 2: very much open to to sort of you know, readjusting 732 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 2: that right because there are some guys like I may 733 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 2: move Traves et and down. I think at this point, 734 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 2: you know, I'm sort of not sure what to make 735 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 2: of an Aaron Jones somebody like that. So I'm definitely 736 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 2: open to sort of reevaluating that. And again, fifteen, it 737 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 2: makes you a high end QB two, it gives you 738 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 2: some some running back one upside. I think that's sort 739 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 2: of where I am with Stevenson. And again this is 740 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 2: sort of like with Burks, just not sure how good 741 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 2: the Patriots offense is going to be, but at least 742 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 2: knowing that Stevenson's going to get a lot of chances 743 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 2: to touch the football with you know, not necessarily a 744 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 2: ton behind him. I mean, there will be guys there 745 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 2: that can potentially, you know, make some plays and you know, 746 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 2: get some opportunities, but this is going to be mostly 747 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 2: Vermondre Stevenson's show, I think this year in New England. 748 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 2: Take a quick break, come back, we'll talk about the 749 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 2: guys on the down side, and we'll dive back into 750 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 2: Florio's film festival with a little bit of action from 751 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 2: South of the Border that's coming up next on the 752 00:35:54,920 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 2: NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. So we talked about the good, 753 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 2: let's talk about the bad, the guys who did not 754 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 2: make out so well because of the NFL draft. And 755 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 2: let's start with Rashad Penny, because when he signed in Philadelphia, 756 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 2: it seemed like, hey man, things are great. Rashad Penny's 757 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 2: gonna get opportunity, It's gonna be great in a great offense. 758 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 2: And then lul of a hold, here comes DeAndre Swift 759 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,439 Speaker 2: in a trade from the Detroit Lions over to Philadelphia. 760 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,919 Speaker 2: So you've got DeAndre Swift, You've got Kenneth Gainwell, you've 761 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 2: got Rashad Penny, You've got Boston Scott. Is is he 762 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 2: anything more than like an RB three in fantasy now? 763 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 2: In this crowded backfield. 764 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 3: No, I have Swift at RB twenty seven and Penny 765 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 3: at RB thirty six right now. And I was so 766 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 3: excited for Rashad Penny after free agency and he was 767 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 3: the only running back they brought in. But now getting Swift, 768 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 3: to me, I could see this. I also think it 769 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 3: hurts Kenny gaine Well. I could see Swift being their 770 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 3: lead pass catching running back and then like Swift and 771 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 3: Penny splitting groundwork and Gainwell kind of sprinkled in. I 772 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 3: also could just see it being like an all out mess. 773 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 3: I don't think one of these guys is gonna like 774 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 3: put up Miles Sanders type numbers like last year. I 775 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 3: think it'll be more of a committee approach because Swift 776 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 3: and Penny have both struggled to stay on the field. 777 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 3: Maybe that's what the Eagles are thinking, like, Hey, if 778 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 3: we could piece together seventeen games in a playoff run 779 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 3: with these two, then we'll be fine. 780 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess that's it. You know, I still want 781 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 2: to be excited, Like, I've got Swift at running back seventeen, 782 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 2: I've got Penny. I'd like twenty five. You know, I 783 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 2: want to believe in these guys because the offense is good. 784 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 2: And look not that Swift was in a good offense 785 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,399 Speaker 2: last year in Detroit. Penny was in a pretty good 786 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 2: offense last year in Seattle. It was very productive there. 787 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,800 Speaker 2: But they now get to go behind a great offensive 788 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 2: line in Philadelphia. They get to work with Jalen Hurts 789 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 2: and that group of pass catchers there. I want to 790 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 2: be optimistic about it, but I think you make a 791 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 2: good point in that there's a very good chance that 792 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 2: they just really just go to the committee situation. Frustrate 793 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 2: the hell out of all of us. When you know 794 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 2: you're starting, you're starting DeAndre Swift and suddenly it's Kenny 795 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,359 Speaker 2: Gainwell getting catches on third down. You're like, but what 796 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 2: the hell is going on here? 797 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 3: Sort of if one was to run away with it, 798 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,879 Speaker 3: I do think it will be swift. I think he's 799 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 3: the best all around talent. 800 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 2: But but you never know. I mean, Philadelphia is part 801 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,320 Speaker 2: of the reason they're successful is because they are varying 802 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 2: their attacks on a regular basis. Speaking of Seattle and 803 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 2: guys that had been there, Kenneth Walker the third is 804 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 2: still there. We were excited about his opportunity, it seemed. 805 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 2: And then here comes Zach Sharboney, who I really like, 806 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,280 Speaker 2: and look, trust me, like I'm praising at UCLA Bruin. 807 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 2: So don't think that I'm not aware of what's happening 808 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 2: right now. Charboney shows up there, and I think this 809 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 2: is a guy who can be a really nice piece 810 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 2: in this offense. You mentioned this before too, that you 811 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 2: know the Sea have showed that they want to run 812 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 2: multiple backs. So is Kenneth Walker still in RB one now? 813 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 2: With Sharbona there? 814 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 3: Not for me and this might seem too low. I 815 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 3: have him as the RB twenty one right now. Wow, Like, 816 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 3: and i'd at cost I'd much rather Charboneau like, because 817 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,839 Speaker 3: you're gonna get rounds discount, and I think it could 818 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 3: be a situation where week to week, like I think 819 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 3: right now, the thinking is like, this is Kenneth Walker 820 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 3: still going to be the lead back? He was so 821 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 3: good last year, but he's like an explosive runner where 822 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 3: Charbonneau is better at between the tackles running and he's 823 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,760 Speaker 3: more physical. And so I could see there being weeks 824 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,399 Speaker 3: where Kenneth Walker finishes as an RB one top ten, 825 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 3: maybe even top five, because he's so explosive and has 826 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 3: that much upside. But then I could see there being 827 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 3: other weeks where he's not a top twenty, top thirty 828 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,720 Speaker 3: running back and all the production goes to the other guys. 829 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 3: So yeah, this is a backfield that I think is 830 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 3: gonna be kind of murky. And when there's the backfield 831 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 3: like this, as much as I like the talent of 832 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 3: Kenny Walker and was all ready to have him as 833 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 3: a top ten running back before the draft, I'll just 834 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 3: go with the guy. 835 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 2: That's much cheaper. So I've got him a little higher 836 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 2: than you. I've got him at sixteen. I've got sharbon 837 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 2: A at thirty four. Sane right now now, because Pekar 838 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 2: wants to run the ball. Even as good as as 839 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 2: Gino Smith was last year, I still think they want 840 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,360 Speaker 2: to run the ball, and I think, you know, as 841 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 2: been pointed out, they really want to try to rotate 842 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 2: backs through there. Now they've got a guy in Charbone 843 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 2: that can step in and take some of those opportunities, 844 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 2: so I you know, I think that hurts Walker, which 845 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,839 Speaker 2: is frustrating because we loved what he did last year 846 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,359 Speaker 2: with hoping that he would get more of an opportunity 847 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 2: other big losers. I just put the New York Giants 848 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 2: wide receiver corps first off, they were a collection of 849 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 2: slot receivers in search of an offense. Then they go 850 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 2: out and add Jalen Hyatt, who he's definitely the speed 851 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 2: element in this offense. He's the guy that can, you know, 852 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 2: stretch the field a little bit. But it's still one 853 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 2: more guy that they have to try to get the 854 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 2: football too. Right when you're already looking at him, Let's 855 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 2: just let's look at some of the guys that they 856 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:16,240 Speaker 2: have already, right, Darius Slayton, what Isaiah Hodgens, jan Dale Robinson, 857 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 2: Sterling Shepherd is back. I know I'm missing some people 858 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,399 Speaker 2: there but you know that's they added Darren Waller, who's 859 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 2: going to be the target leader in this offense, and 860 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 2: then they go get Jalen Hyatt. Maybe they move on 861 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 2: from some of these guys. I don't know, but there's 862 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 2: just there's so much confusion. There is there any guy 863 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 2: in this past group, in this wide receiver group, I 864 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 2: should say that that you have any interest in. 865 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 3: Jalen Hyatt would be the one, just because, like you said, 866 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 3: he brings the speed in the downfield element, so he 867 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 3: he can have those big blow up weeks. And I 868 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,879 Speaker 3: think they're gonna give him plenty of opportunity because they 869 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 3: need that, Like they had by far the fewest attempts, 870 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 3: completions and yards on deep passes last season. But he's 871 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 3: still one. I think that's better in best ball because 872 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 3: he's gonna be very up and down. The way I'm 873 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,320 Speaker 3: attacking the Giants passing game is Darren. 874 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 2: Waller or Busts. 875 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 3: And being able to get Darren Waller as like the 876 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 3: tight end seven is part of the reason I'm souring 877 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 3: on Kyle Pitts because I'm like, I could take Kyle 878 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 3: Pitts in the fifth or wait a round or two 879 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,319 Speaker 3: and get Darren Waller, and I'm very big on Darren 880 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:24,760 Speaker 3: Waller right now, but yeah, so if I if he counts, 881 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 3: I'll take him. If not, it's it's Jalen Hyatt and 882 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 3: more than likely though it's. 883 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,720 Speaker 2: Probably no one. Yeah, it's just you know, maybe Hyatt. 884 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 2: I forgot Paris Campbell also is there. They have Jamison Crowder. 885 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 3: On the who has now completed his He went from 886 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,240 Speaker 3: the Jets to the Bills to the Giants. 887 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 2: He's completed the New York At all of the New 888 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 2: York claiming teams, only one of them actually plays in 889 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 2: New York. But you know whatever, they all claim New York. 890 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: Uh. 891 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:56,279 Speaker 2: I yeah, it's highat maybe for me, I can't see 892 00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 2: myself drafting any Giants receivers. Darren Waller obviously, but no 893 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 2: receivers here. There's just nothing about this group that gets 894 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 2: me very excited at all. Tis Marshall Junior sort of 895 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:13,360 Speaker 2: loses out here because, again, this was an offense that 896 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 2: we talked about before, didn't really have a clear cut 897 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,880 Speaker 2: number one wide receiver. They went out and they got 898 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 2: DJ Chark, They go out and get Adam Thielen, but 899 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 2: then they draft Jonathan Mingo, who I think right now, 900 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 2: I've seen him as number two on the depth chart, 901 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 2: but I feel like that's a temporary state of affairs. 902 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,399 Speaker 2: I mean, Marshall in this first couple of years has 903 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 2: really provided nothing in terms of production. And sure there's 904 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 2: always a chance for that third year breakout, but it 905 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 2: just seems unlikely based on what he's done the first 906 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 2: two years. You never really want to definitively put a 907 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 2: stamp on someone's career. But is it over for Tarras 908 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:52,840 Speaker 2: Marshall Junior. 909 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 3: I think it's over for him being someone that you 910 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 3: can draft. Maybe as the season progresses, if he gets 911 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 3: an upper tunity. I still think there's talent here with 912 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 3: with Terrace Marshall Junior. He's a big bodied receiver, but 913 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 3: I think my expectation is to start the year their 914 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 3: two wide receiver sets are gonna be feeling in Chark 915 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 3: and with Mingo playing the third. But I could see 916 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 3: that switching quickly as the season goes on. So maybe 917 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,399 Speaker 3: there's still hope for him hitting as a waiver wire guy. 918 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,319 Speaker 3: But yeah, he's off my draft like I'm not. There's 919 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 3: just receivers who I think have a much clearer path 920 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 3: to upside, like late in drafts, like Jalen Hyatt, for example, 921 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 3: that I would rather take over. I mean, and I 922 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 3: think we talked about this last week, like Mingo's a 923 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:39,839 Speaker 3: guy that in a vacuum. I have mild interest in him. 924 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,439 Speaker 2: But I think if you're talking, say a Dynasty rookie draft, 925 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,319 Speaker 2: and you look around at the situations for other guys, 926 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 2: You're like, oh yeah, Jonathan Mingo like this sort of 927 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 2: sort of how it is. And I think when I 928 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,240 Speaker 2: look at the Panthers wide receiver group, I'm like, Okay, 929 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,360 Speaker 2: sure I can. I can tell myself a story about 930 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 2: DJ Chark. You know, if he can stay healthy, stay 931 00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 2: on the field, I can see him being productive. Adam 932 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,439 Speaker 2: Feeling and I'm probably out on Terrace Marshall probably Oatta, 933 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 2: but huh, you know, Jonathan Mingo, you know what I mean. 934 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 2: So when it comes back to with him, because I 935 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 2: do think that before the year is out, you're gonna 936 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 2: see him on the field consistently, especially when Carolina is 937 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 2: running three wide receiver sets in that offense. Dawson Knox. 938 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 2: We like the Dawson. I think the Bills still like 939 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,920 Speaker 2: the Dawson, but they also have the Dalton. Now they 940 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:29,720 Speaker 2: drafted Dalton Kincaid. Can Dawson Knox coexist with Dalton Kinkaid 941 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 2: in this offense in a real. 942 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,360 Speaker 3: Life sense, yes, In a fantasy sense, I don't think so. 943 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 3: Like the Bills have been vocal about wanting to run 944 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 3: more twelve personnel, and I've seen some like analytics that 945 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,799 Speaker 3: said last year, twelve is the best way to pass, 946 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 3: like the most effective, and the Bills ran at the 947 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,319 Speaker 3: second fewest in football, And they're saying they're gonna use 948 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 3: Kincaid as a slock guy. They camped him to like 949 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,279 Speaker 3: a bigger Cole Beasley. But I think for fantasy there's 950 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 3: only enough so much volume to go around, and we 951 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 3: know Diggs is gonna get his, Gabe Davis will get 952 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 3: his as the number two, I think King Kaid is 953 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,440 Speaker 3: going to see more volume than Knox because they really 954 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 3: only like knocks in the red zone, Like he's not 955 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,239 Speaker 3: a big guy that they used between the twenties or 956 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,880 Speaker 3: not someone that they like. It's like catch and run ability. 957 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,400 Speaker 3: So while I think they can co exist in real life, 958 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 3: i'd rather Kinkaid in fantasy, and I have them both 959 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 3: ranked as tight end twos outside the top twelve. But 960 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 3: I have King Kid ranked higher because I just think 961 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 3: he has more upside. 962 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,320 Speaker 2: I think he has way more upside than than Dawson Knox. 963 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 2: I mean Knocks. I think at some point last year 964 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 2: became incredibly touchdown dependent because he wasn't getting the targets 965 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 2: on a regular basis that he needed to be successful. 966 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 2: And look at it's worked out over the last two seasons, 967 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 2: fifteen total touchdowns, but it still never reached even six 968 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 2: hundred yards receiving in a season. I mean, I think 969 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 2: Kinkaid can top those numbers. I think he can get you, 970 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 2: you know, six seven hundred yards of the season. I 971 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 2: think he can get you eight touchdowns in that offense. 972 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,320 Speaker 2: You know, I am curious how the Bills sort of 973 00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 2: figure out how to get both these guys on the field, 974 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 2: because I think you want to just completely toss Knocks aside. 975 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 2: But if you're asking me which Bills tight end I'd 976 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,800 Speaker 2: rather have, it is, without a doubt, going to be 977 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,399 Speaker 2: Daltonton Kid this year. Last one more tight end talk 978 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 2: Austin Hooper, who is now in Las Vegas. The Raiders 979 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,279 Speaker 2: added Hooper. They also added Oj Howard after moving on 980 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 2: from Darren Waller. Then they turn around draft Michael Mayer, who, 981 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 2: depending on who you ask, might be the most well 982 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,640 Speaker 2: rounded tight end that came out of this draft class. 983 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,319 Speaker 2: So how soon does Michael Mayer become the starter in Vegas? 984 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,879 Speaker 3: My hope is week one. The more realistic thing I'm 985 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 3: thinking is probably a few weeks into this season. We 986 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:38,920 Speaker 3: know it takes rookie tight ends a little bit to 987 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 3: get going, but in my expectation, like the second half 988 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,440 Speaker 3: of the season should be the Michael Mayers show at 989 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 3: tight end there not Austin Hooper. 990 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,719 Speaker 2: I think so too. I mean, I think you know 991 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 2: the old adage about tight ends taking a little bit 992 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 2: longer to kind of get going because they're asked to 993 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,200 Speaker 2: do so much. But I think Mayor is a guy 994 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,800 Speaker 2: who can come in and immediately get on the field, 995 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,640 Speaker 2: And I just do think it's not gonna be very 996 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 2: long before you're gonna see Michael Mayer as the guy there, 997 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 2: you know, O J. Howard. As much as we want 998 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 2: him to be that guy, I mean, at this point 999 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:13,800 Speaker 2: in his career, I just don't think it's gonna happen 1000 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,839 Speaker 2: for him. Austin Hooper has had a nice run at 1001 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:21,120 Speaker 2: tight end, but you know, I think we also we've 1002 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,000 Speaker 2: seen the ceiling for him at this point too. We 1003 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,800 Speaker 2: sort of know who he is, Michael Mayer, we're still 1004 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 2: really excited about. So I think he's gonna get you know, 1005 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,960 Speaker 2: he's gonna get the chance fairly early. I think to 1006 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 2: be the starter for the Raiders. So there you go. 1007 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,600 Speaker 2: Those are some of our winners lose. I know we 1008 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,279 Speaker 2: had a whole lot more names, but this show could 1009 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,200 Speaker 2: have been two hours long, and we have to get 1010 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:41,480 Speaker 2: to the fun point to get to the meat of 1011 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,440 Speaker 2: what we wanted to do here today, which is the 1012 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 2: return of Florio's film Festival. Took a few weeks off 1013 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,840 Speaker 2: because there was this thing called the NFL Draft. I 1014 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:50,920 Speaker 2: don't know, something like that. 1015 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 3: Uh. 1016 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 2: This week Desperado nineteen ninety five the quick synopsis. Former 1017 00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,879 Speaker 2: musician and gun slinger El Mariachi arrives at a small 1018 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,719 Speaker 2: Mexican border town after being away for a long time. 1019 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 2: His past quickly catches up with him, and he soon 1020 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,800 Speaker 2: gets entangled with the local drug Kingpinbucho and his gang. 1021 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,799 Speaker 2: I would take issue with some of that synopsis because 1022 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,279 Speaker 2: I don't know that his pass caught up with him 1023 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:17,400 Speaker 2: as much as he went looking for it. Yeah, but 1024 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 2: just some quick facts about it. At least August twenty fifth, 1025 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety five, with a budget of seven million dollars, 1026 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 2: grossed twenty five million dollars worldwide, so definitely a success. 1027 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,960 Speaker 2: I always ask you if there are any unanswered questions, 1028 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 2: but there's not a lot of thinking that goes on 1029 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 2: in this movie. No. 1030 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:38,000 Speaker 3: The only thing I kind of came away from was like, uh, 1031 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,600 Speaker 3: where did he Where did these two? Like I know 1032 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,000 Speaker 3: they're his friends, but the two other guys who have 1033 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:48,320 Speaker 3: guitar case? We yes, yeah, Like where where? And why 1034 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:49,359 Speaker 3: does he know these two? 1035 00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 2: Like, I mean, other than they were in a mariachi 1036 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,160 Speaker 2: group together. That's about all I can feel. I mean, 1037 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,080 Speaker 2: I would love to see a backstory. If they would 1038 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,760 Speaker 2: ever go back and do a backstory on those three guys, 1039 00:49:58,840 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 2: that'd be interesting. 1040 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 3: My biggest question was like why did why was guitar 1041 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:08,440 Speaker 3: case your weapon of choice? Like I understand for him, 1042 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:10,879 Speaker 3: like he goes into the bars, He's like, oh, I'm 1043 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,719 Speaker 3: just carrying the guitar. And I even thought it was 1044 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,520 Speaker 3: really cool, like when they first search him and they 1045 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,520 Speaker 3: open it up and it is just the guitar. I 1046 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,440 Speaker 3: thought that was really cool. But his other two friends 1047 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,359 Speaker 3: took it a step too far where they made the 1048 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,360 Speaker 3: guitar cases the weapon like the one dude is legitimately 1049 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,800 Speaker 3: just moving his arms like this and machine just shooting 1050 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,040 Speaker 3: machine guns. And then the other guy, which which Albert 1051 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,279 Speaker 3: pointed out those stands with his leg all the way up. 1052 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:39,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, because you can't have a guitar case rocket 1053 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,719 Speaker 2: launcher and not have a cool stance to fire it. 1054 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,719 Speaker 2: You just can't stand there like a nitwit and fire it. 1055 00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,400 Speaker 2: It's like one, how many rockets can this guitar case fit? 1056 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 2: He is shooting endless rockets? And but it was. 1057 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:55,400 Speaker 3: It was a fun movie. It The only other thing 1058 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,680 Speaker 3: takeaway I had was uh buco. He needs to take 1059 00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:02,359 Speaker 3: his gang for some tar get practiced, because they are 1060 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 3: the worst shots I've ever seen. 1061 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,000 Speaker 2: I mean, they are the descendants from Stormtroopers basically is 1062 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:08,880 Speaker 2: what they are. Because they are they are terrible. 1063 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,719 Speaker 3: There's one scene in the first time he goes to 1064 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 3: the bar. You've seen this movie, Like, he's running times 1065 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,880 Speaker 3: before you across the bar, yes, and the bar is 1066 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,560 Speaker 3: smaller than this room, it looks like, and they're all 1067 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,120 Speaker 3: on one side with machine guns and he's just running 1068 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:25,960 Speaker 3: across the bar and they are not hitting him at all, 1069 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,280 Speaker 3: not at all, but he doesn't miss. 1070 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,680 Speaker 2: He is at some point just throwing bullets at people 1071 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,719 Speaker 2: almost and he's hitting people. I mean just the way 1072 00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:38,400 Speaker 2: he's firing, it's like he's just slinging bullets out of 1073 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 2: the gun. I mean, he was straight up, you know, 1074 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:47,400 Speaker 2: NBA point guard behind the back shooting people. It was insane. 1075 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,080 Speaker 2: The amount of the number of angles from which Antonio 1076 00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:55,319 Speaker 2: Banderis was killing bad guys in this movie. A few 1077 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,720 Speaker 2: other fun facts. The film cost approximately seven million dollars 1078 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,920 Speaker 2: to make, which is a thousand times the amount of 1079 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,120 Speaker 2: money that Robert Rodriguez spent to make El Mariachi, which 1080 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 2: is actually the technically the prequel to this one. This 1081 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,840 Speaker 2: was going to be originally an English language remake of 1082 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:14,880 Speaker 2: El Mariachi. I was telling you before the show, this 1083 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,200 Speaker 2: is technically a sequel, but basically it's just El Mariachi 1084 00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:19,160 Speaker 2: with a bigger budget. 1085 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:23,279 Speaker 3: So in El Mariachi, does is he going because someone 1086 00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 3: killed the because someone killed his woman? 1087 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,080 Speaker 2: Yes, so so he's going after that. 1088 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:31,080 Speaker 3: Technically, then you could say he gets remarried and then 1089 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,440 Speaker 3: she gets killed again, and then he gets with another 1090 00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,879 Speaker 3: girl and almost gets her killed at some point. 1091 00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,560 Speaker 2: It seems like bad news for her at some point 1092 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:41,920 Speaker 2: that you had to look in the mirror and be like, 1093 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 2: I'm the problem. 1094 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,560 Speaker 3: Maybe it's it's not all everyone else, it's me. 1095 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,359 Speaker 2: It's me. I'm the problem. Speaking of which, Carolina who 1096 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,120 Speaker 2: was played by Samahayak in the movie, Jennifer Lopez tried 1097 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,399 Speaker 2: out for that role, which I don't know. I don't 1098 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 2: know that it works. 1099 00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,839 Speaker 3: I was gonna say I wouldn't have complained, but I 1100 00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,239 Speaker 3: I don't. I think it was cast properly. 1101 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:01,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think. I don't think it works with 1102 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,920 Speaker 2: j Low in that role. When Desperado hit theater, Salmajaiak 1103 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 2: took her parents and brothers to see it, but made 1104 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,400 Speaker 2: them go into the lobby when the sex scene was played. 1105 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,880 Speaker 3: That wasn't a scene that I was like, it didn't 1106 00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:13,880 Speaker 3: need to be in the movie. 1107 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:15,960 Speaker 2: I mean, it didn't need to be in the movie. No, 1108 00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,759 Speaker 2: But you know, Robert Rodriguez understands the you know, the 1109 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,800 Speaker 2: need for gratuitousness. Basic. 1110 00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,359 Speaker 3: It was very nineties too, like not just that, but 1111 00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,359 Speaker 3: like all the scenes were like the scene would kind 1112 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,840 Speaker 3: of fade into another scene. There was a lot of 1113 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:35,320 Speaker 3: nineties touches going on. The one also thing I laughed 1114 00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:40,040 Speaker 3: at was the rocket launcher shoots the limo and it 1115 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 3: barely does any damage, and then he shoots it a 1116 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,600 Speaker 3: second time and like the entire town blows up. 1117 00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,200 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I mean, well, you know, there are not 1118 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,840 Speaker 2: a lot of big explosions. There was the scene where 1119 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,760 Speaker 2: Antonio Benders drops two grenades down and they're walking away 1120 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,800 Speaker 2: on the rooftop and there's an enormous explosion behind which 1121 00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,719 Speaker 2: it looked badass but very not realistic. 1122 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. That so that was my Like, it was an 1123 00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,480 Speaker 3: enjoyable movie to watch, but there was a lot of 1124 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,800 Speaker 3: points where I did like kind of chuckle to myself. 1125 00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,319 Speaker 3: I was like, this is it goes the route of 1126 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,360 Speaker 3: like almost like bad action movies, where like they overdo 1127 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,560 Speaker 3: the action. But and again, I like, that's what we 1128 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 3: signed up for. 1129 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,799 Speaker 2: I mean, that's the point of this right. One other 1130 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,880 Speaker 2: fun fact for you. During the production of the film, 1131 00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,839 Speaker 2: director Robert Rodriguez and actor Danny Treyhill discovered that they 1132 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 2: were second cousins, which. 1133 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:31,479 Speaker 3: Is really funny. Also, Danny trey Hill's character was so. 1134 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,600 Speaker 2: Cool and didn't say a word. He never spoke a 1135 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:36,640 Speaker 2: word in the movie. 1136 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,040 Speaker 3: Like he is going to a literally going to a 1137 00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,239 Speaker 3: gunfight with a bunch of nines and cannot be be 1138 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,280 Speaker 3: Like I was like, this is awesome. 1139 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,759 Speaker 2: He he took a little bit of ass before they 1140 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,320 Speaker 2: finally took him down. 1141 00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,640 Speaker 3: And then when they were like this is him, we 1142 00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,160 Speaker 3: got him, I was like, I was like, I guess 1143 00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 3: this helps, you know in the long run. But I 1144 00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,239 Speaker 3: was like, oh, I really wanted to see the those 1145 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:01,080 Speaker 3: to fight each. 1146 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,279 Speaker 2: Other, see Benderas and Trey how Fi. Yeah, it would 1147 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:05,600 Speaker 2: have been kind of fun actually just to kind of 1148 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:09,080 Speaker 2: watch that, to watch that happen, but alas we did 1149 00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,719 Speaker 2: not get it. There was a third movie in this 1150 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:16,480 Speaker 2: trilogy called that Once Upon a Time in Mexico, which, Eh, 1151 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,399 Speaker 2: I don't know, Albert, I'm sure you've seen it out 1152 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:22,000 Speaker 2: of your thoughts. It's just meh. It's kind of Johnny 1153 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,759 Speaker 2: Depp is in it, so he's weird and quirky and 1154 00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:26,520 Speaker 2: Johnny deppish. 1155 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,200 Speaker 3: So it comes kind of full circle because uh, Tartino 1156 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,319 Speaker 3: was in this movie and then made Once upon a 1157 00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,160 Speaker 3: Time in Hollywood, so I guess like kind of hit 1158 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,520 Speaker 3: his cameo. We were talking before the show. It was 1159 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,800 Speaker 3: it was pretty cool. The joke he tells isn't funny 1160 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:41,919 Speaker 3: at all, but when him cracking up at it made 1161 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:42,520 Speaker 3: me laugh. 1162 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,120 Speaker 2: It's the joke itself is not funny. It's the way 1163 00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:46,600 Speaker 2: he tells, yes, yeah. 1164 00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, Like when he's telling it, I was laughing, 1165 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,920 Speaker 3: and I was like, what he's actually saying is it's 1166 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:51,640 Speaker 3: the way like he. 1167 00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:55,640 Speaker 2: Just like starts laughing to himself, and the joke itself 1168 00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,359 Speaker 2: is not actually funny. It also cannot be repeated on 1169 00:55:58,400 --> 00:55:58,759 Speaker 2: this show. 1170 00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:02,319 Speaker 3: Steve Buscemi, I did not expect the movie to open 1171 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:06,279 Speaker 3: up with him at all, but his storytelling was great. 1172 00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,200 Speaker 2: Which that role was written for him. In fact, if 1173 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,799 Speaker 2: you watch the credits, the character's name is just Boushimi. 1174 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:12,799 Speaker 3: I saw that. I was like, how did he get 1175 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:13,160 Speaker 3: to just be. 1176 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,480 Speaker 2: Because the role was written specifically for him to do that, 1177 00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,759 Speaker 2: so they just gave the character his last name. 1178 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:24,360 Speaker 3: He's amazing at telling stories like that, Like, there's not 1179 00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:25,920 Speaker 3: many actors who do it better. 1180 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,000 Speaker 2: And you know, there's that many actors who get to 1181 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,120 Speaker 2: have as long a career as he does. Looking the 1182 00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,440 Speaker 2: way he looks, that is very true. He's not a 1183 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,399 Speaker 2: hands he's a great actor. He's not a handsome man. 1184 00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:38,600 Speaker 3: He plays. My first introduction to him was Crazy Eyes 1185 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:42,640 Speaker 3: and mister Deed's so for like think about that, Like 1186 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,400 Speaker 3: he's in so many movies and I'd see them and 1187 00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,520 Speaker 3: be like, there's Crazy Eyes until like I saw enough 1188 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,040 Speaker 3: of his movies that I now know who he is. 1189 00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,040 Speaker 2: Well, see that reminds me that there are still a 1190 00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:55,160 Speaker 2: long list. We still have a long summer. So is 1191 00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:56,799 Speaker 2: on the list of movies you're going to watch, and 1192 00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:58,280 Speaker 2: you will see Crazy Eyes again. 1193 00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,000 Speaker 3: I've seen Reservoir Dogs. We don't have to watch that, 1194 00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,520 Speaker 3: but but I have seen that that that he's great in. 1195 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,759 Speaker 3: All right, So I mean in the end, I mean 1196 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,160 Speaker 3: you mentioned that it's very nineties. 1197 00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,600 Speaker 2: It looks sort of dated at this point, but uh, 1198 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,160 Speaker 2: you know, would you willingly watch it again? 1199 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? I think it holds up if you're going into 1200 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,680 Speaker 3: it being like this is a nineties action movie, if 1201 00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,280 Speaker 3: you expect it to compare to like Fast X, which 1202 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,480 Speaker 3: is about to come out, Yeah, you're gonna be disappointed 1203 00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,920 Speaker 3: in that. But uh yeah, no, I think it held 1204 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,960 Speaker 3: it that everything was super nineties though, the way they 1205 00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:31,640 Speaker 3: were dressed, everything, And I mean I love the nineties, 1206 00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,960 Speaker 3: so I enjoyed it. I definitely would watch it again. 1207 00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,200 Speaker 3: It's funny, though, how many people in this room and 1208 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,040 Speaker 3: other people I spoke to were like, I haven't seen 1209 00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,360 Speaker 3: that movie in so long, I barely remember it, and 1210 00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:43,640 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'd watch it again. 1211 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,280 Speaker 2: I mean, look, there's there's really not much to remember about, folks. 1212 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,360 Speaker 2: You know, the rocket launcher guitar case man out for revenge, 1213 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:55,160 Speaker 2: blasts everyone in his way. The end, That's what happened. 1214 00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,400 Speaker 3: Do you think he got his satisfaction because he was like, 1215 00:57:58,520 --> 00:57:59,240 Speaker 3: maybe I will. 1216 00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,240 Speaker 2: I think I will. I think he did. I mean, 1217 00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,080 Speaker 2: in the end, he has to spoiler alert, he has 1218 00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,960 Speaker 2: to kill his own brother. Uh in the movie. The 1219 00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,160 Speaker 2: movie is thirty years old. Guys like that spoiler at 1220 00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,000 Speaker 2: this point, Uh, he has to kill his own brother. 1221 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,320 Speaker 2: But he ends up with a new woman at apparent 1222 00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,400 Speaker 2: he has found a new love. I will say that 1223 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,920 Speaker 2: for someone who massacred half of a town, he had 1224 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,240 Speaker 2: very little urgency to actually leave town. 1225 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,600 Speaker 3: Also, I I totally the guns in the sleeves was 1226 00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,680 Speaker 3: a cool old ass. Yeah, and I get that he 1227 00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,120 Speaker 3: would kill his brother in that moment. There was also 1228 00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,960 Speaker 3: like fifty point at him. He's not walking. 1229 00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,680 Speaker 2: Out of that. Yeah, yeah, he did have to slay 1230 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,920 Speaker 2: the army behind Boucho afterwards, but again like afterwards, he's 1231 00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:42,760 Speaker 2: also I get it, he wants to, you know, save 1232 00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,600 Speaker 2: this child who was shot during the battle, but you 1233 00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:50,440 Speaker 2: just killed a lot of people, like maybe get out 1234 00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:51,880 Speaker 2: of town. And he didn't really see him. 1235 00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:55,000 Speaker 3: In a hurry, and I know, like so he went 1236 00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:56,960 Speaker 3: back and picked up the guitar case. But when he 1237 00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,240 Speaker 3: threw it, I'm like, there's no way you are not 1238 00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:01,720 Speaker 3: going to after what you just. 1239 00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,200 Speaker 2: Did, You're gonna need that guitar case. Again. I was 1240 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,160 Speaker 2: just magic coul you might just running across the guitar 1241 00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,640 Speaker 2: case full of guns in the middle of you like 1242 00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:09,720 Speaker 2: on the side of the road. 1243 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,440 Speaker 3: The thing that they did a good job with was 1244 00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:14,360 Speaker 3: making it seem like he had been like town to 1245 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,960 Speaker 3: town already, like he was such a well known. 1246 00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the legend has grown. That was great. That 1247 00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,240 Speaker 2: was a really cool touch. Without it, I was trying 1248 00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,240 Speaker 2: to be like a six degrees of the NFL for 1249 00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,160 Speaker 2: this movie, and it didn't take me very long. Because 1250 00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,600 Speaker 2: Fred Williamson, who played for the Kansas City Chiefs back 1251 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,080 Speaker 2: and I believe the sixties, I was in from dut Dawn, 1252 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:36,040 Speaker 2: which was written by Tarantino and directed by Robert Rodriguez. Wow, 1253 00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,240 Speaker 2: I'm sure if I went deeper, I probably could have 1254 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:39,360 Speaker 2: found more. But my head hurt. 1255 00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,360 Speaker 3: Can we start doing this for every movie now. 1256 00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:44,000 Speaker 2: In the NFL? Yeah? 1257 00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:46,640 Speaker 3: Because I'm not good at those games, but I always 1258 00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:48,400 Speaker 3: find super interesting when people are. 1259 00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:50,479 Speaker 2: I was trying to, like, somehow link it to Pitch 1260 00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:54,360 Speaker 2: Perfect too, because the Green Bay Packers feature heavily and 1261 00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:55,200 Speaker 2: pitch Perfect too. 1262 00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:57,000 Speaker 3: Okay, I've never seen Pitch. 1263 00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,480 Speaker 2: Perfect me neither. I just know that that Clay Matthews 1264 00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,280 Speaker 2: and like a chunk of the Packer offensive line was 1265 01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:02,640 Speaker 2: in them. 1266 01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:04,520 Speaker 3: I hope we could just connect one of these nineties 1267 01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,160 Speaker 3: action movies to eighty for Brady. That's my goal this summer. 1268 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:12,200 Speaker 2: All right, we'll work on that. So our next film 1269 01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,960 Speaker 2: in the film festival. You mentioned Fast X, which comes 1270 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,560 Speaker 2: out in a little over a week. I think I've 1271 01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,120 Speaker 2: mentioned on this show. I am nearing the end of 1272 01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,560 Speaker 2: my Fast series. Rewatch. I still have to watch I 1273 01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,280 Speaker 2: haven't watched nine yet. That's the one I want to 1274 01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,240 Speaker 2: talk to. I haven't gotten nine yet. That's gonna be 1275 01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,280 Speaker 2: hopefully the next couple of days. But with Fast X 1276 01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:32,400 Speaker 2: coming out, I want to go all the way back 1277 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:36,680 Speaker 2: to the first Fast and Furious movie and not watch that, 1278 01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:40,400 Speaker 2: but watch Point Break from nineteen ninety one, because if 1279 01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:43,200 Speaker 2: you like The Fast and the Furious, you will like 1280 01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:46,920 Speaker 2: Point Break because they are the same film. Just replaced 1281 01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:50,840 Speaker 2: cars with surfing, and you've got pretty much the same movie. 1282 01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,040 Speaker 3: I'm so happy we're doing this. And you said this 1283 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,960 Speaker 3: because for years my old roommate was like, dude, you 1284 01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:57,880 Speaker 3: like Fast and the Furious, watch Point Break. 1285 01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:59,520 Speaker 2: It's the same movie, and I don't like the movie. 1286 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,920 Speaker 3: I'm like, no, well it can't be. And now I 1287 01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:03,920 Speaker 3: told him that and he was like, why didn't you 1288 01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,320 Speaker 3: listen to me sooner? So he's very happy that. 1289 01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,640 Speaker 2: I'm the same film. So next week on this show, 1290 01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:10,960 Speaker 2: we will talk about Point Break from nineteen ninety one, 1291 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,160 Speaker 2: not the remake they did a few years ago, because 1292 01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:17,840 Speaker 2: that was trash. It's going to be Keanu Reeves, Patrick Swayze, 1293 01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,720 Speaker 2: Lori Petty the whole nineties as a guest. It is 1294 01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,200 Speaker 2: super nineties, it is nineteen ninety one. It is amazing. 1295 01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,080 Speaker 2: We will talk about it next week on this show, 1296 01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,480 Speaker 2: so look forward to that should be a lot of fun. 1297 01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,640 Speaker 2: It will help us get ready for Fast X for 1298 01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:33,200 Speaker 2: those of us who celebrate that holiday. In the meantime, 1299 01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,120 Speaker 2: this has been a beefy, lengthy show, so it's time 1300 01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:37,880 Speaker 2: for us to probably put it down for now. That'll 1301 01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,360 Speaker 2: do it for this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. 1302 01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,000 Speaker 2: They happy, save and healthy, do good and live well, 1303 01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,200 Speaker 2: enjoy the week and everybody, and we'll talk to you 1304 01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:46,000 Speaker 2: next week. Wo