Speaker 1: I miss the green. For example, I'm already upset. When
Speaker 1: I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset.
Speaker 1: And when I find my ball.
Speaker 2: In arid egg Friday Egg, the dreaded Frida Egg, Frida Egg,
Speaker 2: Frida Egg bride Egg.
Speaker 1: Lie, I'm about ready to run off of the course.
Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to another edition of the
Speaker 3: Friday Egg Podcast. Today, I'm joined by web dot Com
Speaker 3: tour player Ed Lore. Ed played college golf at Oklahoma State,
Speaker 3: where he was an All American and Walker cupper, and
Speaker 3: since turning pro, has spent time on almost every tour
Speaker 3: in the world.
Speaker 4: Ed, welcome on.
Speaker 1: Thanks to Andy. It's good to be with you this morning.
Speaker 2: And yes, you gave me an app description of pretty
Speaker 2: much played about anywhere you could ever come up with.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this year your your full time on the web.
Speaker 3: You've gotten off to a great start. You had a
Speaker 3: T second in Panama and T twentieth in Columbia. What
Speaker 3: would you say is the difference playing abroad versus playing
Speaker 3: on home turf in the United States.
Speaker 1: That's a good question.
Speaker 2: I would say the biggest deal, Well, logistics is the
Speaker 2: biggest problem. You know, just kind of trying to figure
Speaker 2: out how to get there, where to stay, how to
Speaker 2: get to the golf course. You know, they take very
Speaker 2: good care of us while we're down there, but you know,
Speaker 2: just kind of figuring out your bearings. And luckily both
Speaker 2: those places I've been to enough to where for me
Speaker 2: it's just kind of a normal week, Like I know
Speaker 2: where to stay, I know where to eat, and know
Speaker 2: how to get around. So you know, maybe I got
Speaker 2: a little bit of an advantge when we leave the country.
Speaker 2: And you know, for a god who's played in twenty
Speaker 2: nine countries, it's not really that big of a deal
Speaker 2: for me.
Speaker 3: So of all the twenty nine countries that you've played in,
Speaker 3: what spend your kind of like favorite one that you'd
Speaker 3: like to maybe spend time outside of golfing at, And
Speaker 3: what spend your least favorite place.
Speaker 2: I would say my favorite just from a country place,
Speaker 2: I think is probably Spain. I've been there a few
Speaker 2: times for European Tours school and I just love just
Speaker 2: the history and the architecture and kind of the beauty
Speaker 2: of it. But you know, I'm there for golf. So
Speaker 2: I did spend a couple of days in Barcelona a
Speaker 2: couple of years ago, but I haven't got to spend
Speaker 2: a whole lot of time outside of playing golf, But
Speaker 2: I think that's an incredible place.
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 2: My least favorite would be India. I just never I
Speaker 2: never jibed whether the people were super nice, but I
Speaker 2: always I always seem to get sick there, so I
Speaker 2: never really jibed with India.
Speaker 3: That's uh yeah, it's I mean it's crazy how you
Speaker 3: know twenty nine countries and just how the European Tour
Speaker 3: has turned into a world tour. I know you've tried
Speaker 3: a number of times, you had a t second in
Speaker 3: a year a tour start.
Speaker 4: Is there a big.
Speaker 3: Difference between playing in Europe versus playing on like the
Speaker 3: American Tour, like the PGA Tour.
Speaker 2: I think that just the depth of players. You know,
Speaker 2: certain the European Tour is a great tour.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: I would never say it's not. You know, the deal
Speaker 2: with that tour is how often do you get their
Speaker 2: top players playing there? I mean a majority of them
Speaker 2: play over here now, so you've only got you know
Speaker 2: a handful of events. You know, maybe one or two
Speaker 2: in the desert and then you know their BMW Championship
Speaker 2: and one or two other where their top flight players
Speaker 2: are all playing. So you know, it gives a lot
Speaker 2: of opportunity for other players to you know, kind of
Speaker 2: make an impact. Whereas you know, week to week on
Speaker 2: the PGA tours, you know, murderers row people playing.
Speaker 3: That's a we saw, you know, Brooks Kopka make his
Speaker 3: way to the PGA Tour through the European Tour. His
Speaker 3: younger brothers doing that now. But then you've got like
Speaker 3: Sean Crocker as another guy that's played really well. The
Speaker 3: first couple starts this year over there seems to be
Speaker 3: a new path that a lot of young players are
Speaker 3: going on. If you, you know, you turned pro in
Speaker 3: two thousand and if you redid that and started over today,
Speaker 3: would you would that be something that you considered doing.
Speaker 2: You know, I inadvertently kind of almost try to do
Speaker 2: that by playing. You know, I played Asian Tour mainly
Speaker 2: just because I kept failing at Q school.
Speaker 1: But you know I had some chances to play in Europe.
Speaker 2: You know, I would have had my card one year
Speaker 2: if I would have paid my affiliatecy. But that's a
Speaker 2: whole nother story about paying the five end and uh,
Speaker 2: but I think It's a great idea for young guys,
Speaker 2: for anybody really. Heck, I tried it last year, so
Speaker 2: you know, there's only so many jobs in golf, so
Speaker 2: I would encourage anybody to really go do it.
Speaker 3: So kind of going into people that might not be
Speaker 3: as familiar with you in your background. How did you
Speaker 3: get into golf as a kid.
Speaker 1: Through my dad?
Speaker 2: My dad was a really good player, played a couple
Speaker 2: of years at University of Colorado and then played some
Speaker 2: Space Coast Tour and the in Florida in the late
Speaker 2: sixties early seventies, so and then he just stayed connected
Speaker 2: to golf. He got into the pharmacy business, but he
Speaker 2: always you know, played golf and was a plus handicap
Speaker 2: till his mid forties. So kind of started out as
Speaker 2: a family thing. My younger brother is a really good player,
Speaker 2: played at SMU and then tried to play for a
Speaker 2: little bit, so we just kind of started out as that.
Speaker 2: And then obviously I kind of had an affinity for it.
Speaker 2: And then you know, my parents were well enough off
Speaker 2: and my dad had a good plan for us, you know,
Speaker 2: to try to figure out how to you know, for
Speaker 2: us to learn to compete and play a bunch of
Speaker 2: tournaments and just kind of took off from there.
Speaker 3: So did you you grew up in Dallas? Where'd you
Speaker 3: grow up playing down there?
Speaker 2: I'm actually from the suburbs of living in a town
Speaker 2: called rock Wall, so just east of town. But I
Speaker 2: grew up playing a place called the Shorest Country Club,
Speaker 2: just a nice little, you know, residential club out here
Speaker 2: east of town.
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 2: You know, I've got a couple of memberships around town
Speaker 2: now different places, Lakewood country Club and then actually the
Speaker 2: Shores now it's called the rock Hole Golf and Athletic Club.
Speaker 2: So still you know, good to play kind of around
Speaker 2: town a lot.
Speaker 3: So watching the young kids today with like the day,
Speaker 3: how how do you think, like, you know, development from
Speaker 3: you know, junior golf to college golf to pro golf
Speaker 3: has changed from you know, when you were doing it
Speaker 3: in the late nineties to you know, how kids are
Speaker 3: doing it now.
Speaker 2: It's it's obviously it's so different now. You know when
Speaker 2: I when I first when I first kind of came out,
Speaker 2: you know, it was kind of your your roadmap was,
Speaker 2: you know, go to Q school. Hopefully you make it,
Speaker 2: but if you don't, you just kind of work your
Speaker 2: way up, keep trying work your way up some more.
Speaker 2: Now it's like the guys are so good so young,
Speaker 2: you know, like they just come out and they just
Speaker 2: know they're they're going to succeed right off the bat.
Speaker 2: And so it's I don't know if that's a you know,
Speaker 2: kind of a mentality they learned from Tiger whereas I
Speaker 2: was competing against Tiger.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: These kids are so good so young. Obviously, the everything's
Speaker 2: gotten better that the instruction's gotten better, the technology has
Speaker 2: gotten better, the workouts have gotten better. Nutrition, So it's
Speaker 2: you know, it's just a way different playing field now.
Speaker 3: Mm hm, it's uh. I mean I see it in
Speaker 3: amateur stuff. I play with like fourteen year olds who
Speaker 3: are hitting the ball like two eighty and I think
Speaker 3: back to like like I if I got it out
Speaker 3: there like two twenty two forty when I was fourteen,
Speaker 3: I was like, wow, I pumped that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: I mean all these guys now, you know, all these
Speaker 2: twenty five year olds that I play with on the
Speaker 2: web tour, and it's just you know, I mean I
Speaker 2: still hit it. You know, I'm above average. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm probably a two ninety five to three hundred yard hitter.
Speaker 2: So I still hit it plenty far. But I mean,
Speaker 2: you just hit these kids, and this is like, I mean,
Speaker 2: you can obviously tell when the ball comes off the face.
Speaker 2: Good lords, that thing ever gonna come down?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So in your years with pro golf, like, how
Speaker 3: is your perception of you know, getting prepared or you know,
Speaker 3: just in general of golf, how's it changed through your
Speaker 3: you know, triumphs and then also the low point.
Speaker 1: I mean I still love it.
Speaker 2: I obviously still loved it, or else I wouldn't be
Speaker 2: doing it, you would.
Speaker 1: Say a ball beater.
Speaker 2: You know, I love to play more than I love
Speaker 2: to practice. I always look forward to Thursdays, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
Speaker 2: You know, we're more of a drag now, you know,
Speaker 2: the the travel and the practice rounds and all the
Speaker 2: other stuff. But you know, once Thursday comes along, I'm
Speaker 2: still you know, I'm still as eager as I've ever been,
Speaker 2: and you know, hopefully I will continue to be that way.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that'd be the that'd be a bad sign
Speaker 3: if you're not like ready to go.
Speaker 4: You know, that's when when.
Speaker 2: It'd be that's about that's when you know it's time
Speaker 2: to do and That's what you hear a lot of
Speaker 2: people say when you don't get those butterflies, you.
Speaker 1: Know, it's kind of time to do something else.
Speaker 2: But you know, I still get them. I still get nervous,
Speaker 2: you know, I still get anxious. But I think that
Speaker 2: just means that you really still love it.
Speaker 3: So you played on the nineteen ninety nine Walker Cup team,
Speaker 3: and you know Matt Coocher, Jonathan Byrd, you and you know,
Speaker 3: you guys are the only three that are left playing
Speaker 3: pro golf. Like, do you keep in touch with the
Speaker 3: guys that from that team still?
Speaker 1: Oh? Couple of them?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I see those guys. I saw Jay Bird,
Speaker 2: you know a few times. I guess last year when
Speaker 2: he was playing back down the web, you know, running
Speaker 2: the coacher every now and then and saylo, but let's
Speaker 2: see Hunter Hass I still see around town because he
Speaker 2: lives here. Other than that, let's see I used to
Speaker 2: run into David Gausp, you know, and so many doing
Speaker 2: some many tour stuff back when he was still trying
Speaker 2: to play a few years ago. Maybe a couple of
Speaker 2: Twitter interactions with Steve Scott as he's a high fluting
Speaker 2: head pro now up on the East coast somewhere. But
Speaker 2: other than that, not really that's about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of of the guys that were on that team,
Speaker 3: I mean, you guys did have like four you are
Speaker 3: three mid AM's on that team, and uh, but of
Speaker 3: the guys, who are you kind of most surprised didn't
Speaker 3: make it of like you know, the Hunter has the
Speaker 3: Gossaid or Steve, you.
Speaker 2: Know, probably David just just the way his career started,
Speaker 2: you know, winning the John Deere basically what one or
Speaker 2: two years into his pro career and then you know
Speaker 2: kind of that was the obviously the peak of it,
Speaker 2: and then just ten or twelve years of for him,
Speaker 2: you know, fighting it. But uh, you know, I think
Speaker 2: having done it so long, I know how hard it is.
Speaker 2: So nothing really surprises me either way, guys that do
Speaker 2: great or guys that don't, because it's such a fine line,
Speaker 2: and you know, there's so many variables to a successful
Speaker 2: career that you know, who knows how the ball is
Speaker 2: really going to bounce for anybody.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I mean, the difference between a t eighth
Speaker 3: and a win can be just the smallest. You know,
Speaker 3: it could be a bounce off a car path or
Speaker 3: a sprinkler.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, here maybe it's a you know, it's an
Speaker 2: eight foot put on Thursday morning. It keeps around going
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden you shoot, you know, three
Speaker 2: shots lower than you should have.
Speaker 1: It's it's and obviously that.
Speaker 2: Stuff's hard to tell over the course of a week
Speaker 2: when a guy gets in contention. But you know that
Speaker 2: really is kind of how close are Like you said,
Speaker 2: it's so, you know, ball hits a car path and
Speaker 2: kicks left and goes back in the fairway instead of
Speaker 2: kicking right and going out of bound. So it's you know,
Speaker 2: that's how close it is.
Speaker 3: What would you say is the biggest misconception from like,
Speaker 3: you know, just to say you meet somebody at a bar,
Speaker 3: to what your job is.
Speaker 2: Oh, how fun it is, How cool it is to
Speaker 2: be a pro golfer. I mean, it's while, it's while,
Speaker 2: it's partly correct, because yes, it is cool. We can
Speaker 2: play golfer a living. There's obviously so much there's so
Speaker 2: much more to it. There's a lot more downside than
Speaker 2: you know, the guys that you see on TV. You know,
Speaker 2: you're watching the top fifteen guys in the world every
Speaker 2: week try to win a million dollars versus you know,
Speaker 2: hundreds or thousands of us that are, you know, trying
Speaker 2: to figure.
Speaker 1: Out how to make money?
Speaker 2: Who were you know, those guys are only marginally better
Speaker 2: than the rest of us. But obviously that marginal difference
Speaker 2: is the difference between making you know, fifteen million a
Speaker 2: year and then barely being able to keep the lights on.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's like a half a shot here and half
Speaker 3: shot there makes all the difference.
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 2: It's a ten foot there, you know, up and down here.
Speaker 2: So it's just way closer than you know most people realize.
Speaker 3: How has your kind of game changed over the years.
Speaker 3: Are you a different player now than when you were
Speaker 3: fresh out of college?
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean I would hope, so, you know, I
Speaker 2: was always really aggressive, probably took a lot more chances
Speaker 2: than I ever needed to. I think the last couple
Speaker 2: of year years really after after twenty fourteen and the
Speaker 2: last year out of my card and I really had
Speaker 2: just a horrible year and kind of took a new
Speaker 2: path and trying to rebuild my game. And now I
Speaker 2: tried to play a lot more. I don't know if
Speaker 2: i'd call a conservative, but a lot you know, a
Speaker 2: lot more percentage wise, and try to play a lot
Speaker 2: smarter because of not not that I figured it out,
Speaker 2: but just kind of over the years that I've always
Speaker 2: made a lot of birdies, but I've always made a
Speaker 2: lot of bogies, and that you know, the guys that
Speaker 2: just do well over a long period of time, it's
Speaker 2: not how many birdies they make, it's just that they
Speaker 2: kind of figure out how to limit their errors. So
Speaker 2: that's kind of what I've tried to start doing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it tucked an agent once and they said that
Speaker 3: they always look for guys that make a lot of
Speaker 3: birdies because you can coach away bogies eventually, but you can't.
Speaker 4: I can't teach birdies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 2: I mean, and once you get on tour, it's such
Speaker 2: a different game than you know, even the Web Tour
Speaker 2: or certainly the Mini Tours is I mean, that's more
Speaker 2: of a birdie game. You know, when you're having to
Speaker 2: shoot sub twenty under, you know, versus the Big Tour,
Speaker 2: and you know, it's most most of the weeks it's
Speaker 2: you know, ten to fifteen under. That's a way different
Speaker 2: game than twenty four unders. So it's I think that's
Speaker 2: an adjustment. But it's also you know, more so because
Speaker 2: of the courses that you're playing.
Speaker 3: Do you think that, like something I've wondered for a
Speaker 3: long time, is the Web is such a different tour
Speaker 3: in the sense of scoring, like you just pointed out,
Speaker 3: Do you think that ends up resulting the best in
Speaker 3: the best tour players like Web success for like the.
Speaker 1: PGA Tour, not necessarily.
Speaker 2: No, I don't, and I wish, you know, and obviously
Speaker 2: the Web Tour knows that, and I think they try
Speaker 2: to find stronger golf courses. But you know, the fact
Speaker 2: is they have a lot of these long standing relationships
Speaker 2: with tournaments and you know, they've been there, like Boiser
Speaker 2: for instance, as I've always thought it's the best tournament
Speaker 2: on the schedule, but it's you know, one of the
Speaker 2: weakest golf courses because it's a you know, it's a driver,
Speaker 2: a hybrid and a one of your wedges every hole.
Speaker 2: So it's you know, they kind of fighting uphill battle
Speaker 2: with that. But I don't know how well it translates
Speaker 2: to all of a sudden you go to hitting six
Speaker 2: and seven irons. You know, I think your average second
Speaker 2: shot on tour is No. One seventy five range. I
Speaker 2: would guess on the Web Tour you know, the kid's
Speaker 2: probably in one hundred and forty range, So you know,
Speaker 2: that's a huge difference.
Speaker 3: It seems like to me just watching the scoring and
Speaker 3: not having seen a lot of the courses that the
Speaker 3: courses in like Central and Central America and Latin America
Speaker 3: are usually a little bit tougher and closer to like
Speaker 3: PGA two are scoring.
Speaker 2: There's no doubt. I mean, look at this year. You
Speaker 2: know what Langley won at seven under in Panama. You know,
Speaker 2: the Mahamas weren't that Batman, mostly because of the win.
Speaker 2: You know, last week Taylor shot really low, but other
Speaker 2: than that, you know, he was the only guy in
Speaker 2: double digits. You know, a lot of that's obviously with
Speaker 2: the conditions. You know, it tends to get windy those
Speaker 2: in those countries. You know, the greens were really small
Speaker 2: and firm, which I think a lot of us would
Speaker 2: like to see every week. But yeah, when you get here,
Speaker 2: I call it a lot of country club golf. You
Speaker 2: play a lot of nice country club courses. But obviously
Speaker 2: you put really good players on country club courses and
Speaker 2: what are they you know they're going to shoot twenty
Speaker 2: five unders.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3: So if you were going to set up a golf
Speaker 3: course to to test modern day professional how how would
Speaker 3: you set it up in terms of it to get
Speaker 3: the best best competition.
Speaker 2: Oh man, that's a tough one because you know, really
Speaker 2: using today's equipment, it's going to be so hard. But
Speaker 2: you know, I know you guys were way big in
Speaker 2: the golf court of course architecture. But you know, the
Speaker 2: things that give guys trouble, in my opinion, or are
Speaker 2: when you make them have to curve the ball off
Speaker 2: the tee. You know, obviously firm greens. You know, they
Speaker 2: do a great job of hiding pins already. I mean
Speaker 2: I remember up let's see a couple of the US
Speaker 2: Opens I played, and and uh, you know, the hardest
Speaker 2: holes weren't necessarily the longest ones. It was ones that
Speaker 2: maybe you had to curve a ball ten or twenty yards.
Speaker 2: So that seems to be the biggest thing.
Speaker 1: You know. They look at Riviera last week. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know they've.
Speaker 2: Stretched it out, but you we got a lot of
Speaker 2: dog legs where guys kind of have to move the ball,
Speaker 2: and you know it's hard with the balls and the clubs. Uh,
Speaker 2: you know, really to get a ball to curve. So
Speaker 2: in my opinion, that's the hardest. That's how you're going
Speaker 2: to create the hardest conditions.
Speaker 3: That's something I've wanted to do, like a post about
Speaker 3: It's like if you look back at like Tiger's most
Speaker 3: famous shots and like just the most famous shot, like
Speaker 3: the most memorable shots in golf for like, you know,
Speaker 3: in the early two thousands and nineties, we're all like
Speaker 3: recovery shots where you know, he curved a ball like
Speaker 3: you know, out of the rough and you know, and
Speaker 3: turned at thirty yards. And today, like the most famous
Speaker 3: shots are just like Dustin Johnson hitting like a driver
Speaker 3: that doesn't move an inch right down the middle of
Speaker 3: the caraway.
Speaker 2: Well it's funny, you say, because like when I tell
Speaker 2: people the biggest difference I've seen in golf is that,
Speaker 2: you know, when I used to watch off when I
Speaker 2: was a kid, and you know, you turn on the
Speaker 2: Buick Classic at Warwick Hills and some guy's nursing a
Speaker 2: one shot lead, and you know, he takes his per
Speaker 2: seven three wood and hits his you know, hits a
Speaker 2: squeeze fade off the last hole to try to get
Speaker 2: it in play. And now it's like you see a
Speaker 2: guy with a one shot lead, what does he do?
Speaker 2: He teases driver as high as he can and tries
Speaker 2: to hit it three point fifty. And so, you know,
Speaker 2: that's kind of the biggest thing that I've seen is
Speaker 2: that there's no fear. But and there's not there's a
Speaker 2: lot less creativity, And I think that's just because of
Speaker 2: a lot of.
Speaker 1: The you know, the equipment and the training. But you know,
Speaker 1: I do agree.
Speaker 2: And I mean if I if I counted off the
Speaker 2: top ten best shots I've probably ever hit in my life,
Speaker 2: you know, seven or eight of them are probably crazy
Speaker 2: shots that I've hit out of the woods, you know,
Speaker 2: because those are the ones you remember. I mean, you
Speaker 2: remember the you remember the fifty yards slice you hit
Speaker 2: with the three wood onto the green, and you know
Speaker 2: that's obviously way more memorable than just one three ten
Speaker 2: down the middle.
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then with today, like if you put the ball
Speaker 3: on the rough with today's equipment, it's like so hard
Speaker 3: to move a ball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt, it's hard. Yeah, it's hard to move
Speaker 2: a ball, you know. Yeah, obviously from the fairway and
Speaker 2: much less put some grass interference in there, then you're
Speaker 2: really gonna have a hard time getting it to go anywhere.
Speaker 3: It's I've kind of a theory that like the golf
Speaker 3: swing has changed a little bit because of technology, would you,
Speaker 3: I mean, would you agree with that?
Speaker 1: No doubt it has.
Speaker 2: It's way less Uh well, I think it's way less
Speaker 2: uh depending on your hand action, which is probably good,
Speaker 2: but obviously that takes probably some of the creativity out
Speaker 2: and now guys are are just uh, you know, smashing
Speaker 2: it every time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of think like I've like half written
Speaker 3: an article about this, but like the you know, there's
Speaker 3: so much success with the young twenty year olds now
Speaker 3: because they grew up with this golf swing and technology.
Speaker 2: So I agree, And I don't you know, they weren't taught,
Speaker 2: you know, when they grew up, they were they practiced
Speaker 2: with the track man. They practice, you know, basically hitting
Speaker 2: it as hard as they can, and the technology and
Speaker 2: everything they grew up with it doesn't really allow it
Speaker 2: to curve.
Speaker 1: So I agree.
Speaker 3: So with getting back to kind of your experience all
Speaker 3: over the world, you know, you hear a lot of
Speaker 3: tales of caddies and and in Central and Latin America
Speaker 3: and South America and.
Speaker 4: You know where what's been the worst.
Speaker 3: Caddy that you've had across the world.
Speaker 2: I had a guy in Uh. I had a guy
Speaker 2: in uh where was I Brazil a couple of years ago?
Speaker 2: During it and did I actually ended up getting rid
Speaker 2: of getting rid of him after the practice round. But
Speaker 2: unlike the fifteenth hole in the practice round, he cracked
Speaker 2: open a beer, so you know, that kind of told
Speaker 2: me that he probably wouldn't be real serious about what
Speaker 2: he was doing, so I had to go find another one.
Speaker 2: But uh, I think that's the only time I've really
Speaker 2: had to fire a guy before the round. But you know,
Speaker 2: you never know, I've had some, you know a lot
Speaker 2: of the best guddies. I had for these ladies when
Speaker 2: I was playing the Asian Tour just with the pool
Speaker 2: card and you know, he didn't speak a wacky English,
Speaker 2: but they did exactly what they were supposed to do.
Speaker 3: So speaking of you know, you you you made it
Speaker 3: really big when you were using the push card on
Speaker 3: the Adams Store.
Speaker 1: You know, and.
Speaker 3: Mutual friend Todd Mitchell is so anti pushcart. Do you
Speaker 3: do you think that the push card helps you on
Speaker 3: the golf course.
Speaker 2: Well, I will have to admit Andie that I was
Speaker 2: like mister anti pushcart as well. I actually I was
Speaker 2: playing a uh. I was playing an Adams in Saint
Speaker 2: Louis a.
Speaker 1: Couple of years ago, and I thought I was gonna
Speaker 1: die it was so hot.
Speaker 2: So I went to a Dick's Sporting good and bought
Speaker 2: a floor model pushcart. And now I don't know, I'm
Speaker 2: like now, I just think I'm so dumb for, you know,
Speaker 2: going so long without using one. But you know, it
Speaker 2: just kind of I'm one of those guys I played
Speaker 2: so much golf really just relying on myself. I mean,
Speaker 2: I just think yourself reliance. You know, there's a lot
Speaker 2: more when you have a pushcart, but you got nobody
Speaker 2: to blame but yourself. So but I love them now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm on team pushcart too. I used to be
Speaker 3: a big carrier and I always would carry, but like now,
Speaker 3: I think it's so dumb. It's like you play the
Speaker 3: sport where you depend on your like shoulders a lot
Speaker 3: in the golf swing, Like why would you dumb?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Well, and I know these college tournaments where we used
Speaker 5: to carry thirty day and man, I mean obviously we
Speaker 5: were twenty then, but still I can't believe how much
Speaker 5: fresh dri I feel now after just choosing a little pusher.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Todd Telman was complaining that you have to
Speaker 3: walk around a green the one time he used it,
Speaker 3: and I was like, let's.
Speaker 1: Let's be honest.
Speaker 2: Mitchell doesn't play any tournaments where he doesn't have a
Speaker 2: caddy anyway, so what does he really know.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Everybody's like, you should take a caddy.
Speaker 3: It's like, I'm not paying for a caddy. I I'm
Speaker 3: I'm a I'm an internet blogger exactly, So it's uh, yeah,
Speaker 3: the the push card is I think, and I think
Speaker 3: I've I've heard I think I think it might have
Speaker 3: been UNLV's coach says that they statistically proved that save
Speaker 3: like a shot or a half a shot around.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think actually was Conrad ray Stanford.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, anybody that is trying to play tournament
Speaker 3: golf and throwing a bag on their shoulders all the time,
Speaker 3: like you, there's there's no way you can't say that
Speaker 3: it helps you to have fresher body when you're playing.
Speaker 2: I agree, you just got to feel way better. But
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, there's no doubt.
Speaker 3: So you've got triplets. I imagine that that adds a
Speaker 3: little bit of challenge to the playing all over the world.
Speaker 3: When you when you had kids that when you found
Speaker 3: out it was triplets, was there a was there a
Speaker 3: moment where you said, oh shit.
Speaker 2: Well, honestly, I mean there's not a day that goes
Speaker 2: by that I don't say oh shit.
Speaker 1: But you know, it's funny.
Speaker 2: I really played probably some of my best golf right
Speaker 2: if they were born, and you know, I think that's
Speaker 2: just kind of you know, they kind of added a
Speaker 2: real perspective to life of you know, how stupid golf
Speaker 2: is compared to you know, being a dad of three
Speaker 2: little kids. So you know, they obviously you'll offer that
Speaker 2: to me, but you know, there's definitely pressure. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know if anybody told me how
Speaker 2: expensive kids were when I before I had them. A
Speaker 2: good lord man, you just can't you can't make enough money.
Speaker 2: It seems like, uh, you know, they're the apple of
Speaker 2: my eye. You know, they're kind of the reason I play,
Speaker 2: and I just you know, I love them to death.
Speaker 3: Really, I think perspective with golf is so important. I
Speaker 3: thought about trying to play for a little bit and
Speaker 3: then you start, like I started working and then all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, I'd go out and play, like they
Speaker 3: say a year after and like, I played so much
Speaker 3: better because I realized how insignificant little things in golf are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the first year that I got my
Speaker 2: tour card was the end of twenty eleven, and I
Speaker 2: was my my twelfth try through Q school, and you know,
Speaker 2: my kids were born in September, and you know, it
Speaker 2: obviously had something to do with it. I mean I
Speaker 2: brought I got to bring my let's see, yeah, I
Speaker 2: got to bring my daughter home. You know, they were
Speaker 2: kind of in the nick you and then special care
Speaker 2: nursery at the hospital. I mean, I brought my daughter
Speaker 2: home after the third round of second stays of Q school.
Speaker 2: So you know, if you think that doesn't make me
Speaker 2: more relaxed, and I'm like, well, this is pretty This
Speaker 2: is way more awesome than you know, trying to shoot
Speaker 2: sixty eight at Craig Ranch tomorrow. I mean, this is
Speaker 2: this is obviously way more important. So you know, there's
Speaker 2: no doubt in my mind that that that that had
Speaker 2: something to do with me, you know, finally getting through
Speaker 2: on my twelfth.
Speaker 4: Try, getting getting three right, off.
Speaker 3: The bat's got to be just like being thrown into
Speaker 3: like a being an NFL quarterback and seeing like a
Speaker 3: an eight man blitz.
Speaker 2: Well, you just, you know, I think at this point
Speaker 2: we're actually lucky that, uh, you know, we didn't have
Speaker 2: one beforehand, and we knew how hard one was. We
Speaker 2: just kind of did it with three. You know, all
Speaker 2: these people are like, I don't know how you did three.
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, that's all we knew, you know, But
Speaker 2: now it's now. I actually prefer it because at least
Speaker 2: my kids are all doing the same thing. Now I
Speaker 2: think about you know, I mean my parents had four
Speaker 2: kids and they were all kind of spaced two or
Speaker 2: three years apart. Or you know, all these friends I
Speaker 2: know that have the spaced apart of my man, you know,
Speaker 2: at least I get to sleep. I don't have a
Speaker 2: you know, an age six and you know, a one
Speaker 2: year old that still doesn't sleep. So I wouldn't obviously trade.
Speaker 1: It for the world.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess that is true.
Speaker 3: You have all the same problems that every year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3: So you've seen the Q school process change. Did you
Speaker 3: prefer the you know, ability to get straight to the
Speaker 3: tour or do you think this current system is better.
Speaker 2: No, I would have preferred the old one, and I
Speaker 2: think every player pretty much would have just kind of
Speaker 2: gives you an opportunity to you know, I think there
Speaker 2: needs to be an opportunity to still get to the
Speaker 2: big show. Rather, you know, you're some hot shot kid
Speaker 2: that thinks he can go right to the tour, or
Speaker 2: some guy that maybe just barely missed his car, to
Speaker 2: give him a chance to get it back. You know,
Speaker 2: I don't I understand why they did it, you know,
Speaker 2: for the sponsorship of the web dot Com tour. So
Speaker 2: you know, obviously it comes down to money a lot
Speaker 2: of times, which a lot.
Speaker 1: Of the world does.
Speaker 2: So I get why they did it, but I don't
Speaker 2: necessarily think it's.
Speaker 1: A better deal. It's uh.
Speaker 4: I I feel like it.
Speaker 3: I like that the the web means more now, but
Speaker 3: I do I did like the idea of like everybody's
Speaker 3: got a shot to make it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you talk about trauma. I mean it
Speaker 2: was some of the best drama in the world, and
Speaker 2: you know, I unfortunately was was the like the last
Speaker 2: guy that really had a Q School meltdown at the
Speaker 2: end of uh, you know, twenty twelve to get back
Speaker 2: to the tour. Uh, you know, the year before I
Speaker 2: was one of the guys that got my card. So
Speaker 2: I've experienced obviously both sides of it. But I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't. I've never really felt pressure like
Speaker 2: I have a Q school. I mean, when you're obviously
Speaker 2: you know, quote unquote playing for your job, it's you know,
Speaker 2: it's a little different animal.
Speaker 3: What uh what what was your Q school?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: You know, drama and then also the like the triumph,
Speaker 3: give give the listeners, both both sides of the coin.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, obviously at eleven I had some triumph because
Speaker 2: I got you know, I think I finished whatever T
Speaker 2: twentieth or something to get my car. And then you know,
Speaker 2: the next year I had my tour car. Now I
Speaker 2: ended up playing and probably almost as much on the
Speaker 2: Web Tour, and I had won on the Web Tour
Speaker 2: in Panama all of the year, so I had I
Speaker 2: had job security. But I went back to finals and
Speaker 2: I was playing really good. I think I started the
Speaker 2: last round in third or fourth place and I shot
Speaker 2: seventy seven, including you know, hitting it in the water
Speaker 2: on Alcatraz and blah blah blah, and ended up I
Speaker 2: think I shot seventy seven or seventy eight maybe and
Speaker 2: didn't get my card. So I was like the last
Speaker 2: guy that, you know, truly kind of melted down to
Speaker 2: missus card. But actually it was fine because the next year,
Speaker 2: you know, in thirteen, I had my best year.
Speaker 1: You know, really in pro golf.
Speaker 2: Finished I think fourth on the Web Tour, pretty much
Speaker 2: had my card locked up by March, so I'm sure
Speaker 2: that had something to do with it. And I had
Speaker 2: some you know, some innermotivation to kind of, you know,
Speaker 2: prove myself right. But it's, uh, it's I definitely have
Speaker 2: lived all parts of golf.
Speaker 3: There's no doubt from like a personal side, Like I
Speaker 3: the year before I qualified for the mid Am.
Speaker 4: Two years ago I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't play this year because of my wedding, But
Speaker 3: the year before I was like, I was two under
Speaker 3: on the seventeenth hole and I made I finished double double,
Speaker 3: and I played in Indianapolis and I had to drive.
Speaker 3: I drove home from there and it was like the
Speaker 3: worst drive of my life. You know, both both holes
Speaker 3: I've hit in the fairway. Then but then the next year,
Speaker 3: It's so funny how golf works, Like the next year
Speaker 3: I'm playing, and I'm just like, I wasn't really playing well.
Speaker 3: I was even par but I was just like kind
Speaker 3: of scraping around, you know, one of those rounds, and
Speaker 3: h I hit a wedge close on like the thirteenth hole,
Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, everything clicked and I finished.
Speaker 3: I burdied that hole, but then I birdied three on
Speaker 3: my last four, and like, you just make it in
Speaker 3: and it's like, you know, it's not that hard, you know,
Speaker 3: but you always make it hard on yourself.
Speaker 1: It's just such a dumb game.
Speaker 2: And you know, I mean you just hear those stories
Speaker 2: all the time about the guy that was in such
Speaker 2: good position and fell apart, and the guy that was, you know,
Speaker 2: four off the cut line and birdie four of his
Speaker 2: last five and then.
Speaker 1: Shot sixty six sixty six and finished eighth.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just such a dumb game, and I
Speaker 2: don't know why we all try to figure it out.
Speaker 3: You've got a You're one of the rare pros that
Speaker 3: has a full time tracker, I mean behind the big cat,
Speaker 3: I mean, ed Lord tracker has got to be number
Speaker 3: two most followed tracker out there.
Speaker 2: There's no doubt. And then Ed Lord tracker is definitely
Speaker 2: way more entertaining. He's the most entertaining tracker on tour.
Speaker 2: You know, anything that's based more on your eating habits
Speaker 2: than your golf has got to be way more entertainment
Speaker 2: for the Twitter world.
Speaker 3: No doubt did the tracker come about.
Speaker 2: It's you know, I'll be honest with you. I've met
Speaker 2: the guy twice, just for a few minutes. I've had
Speaker 2: a ton of interactions with him on texting, social media.
Speaker 2: It's a left handed guy. I will not divulge his identity.
Speaker 2: But and a few years ago when I was on tour,
Speaker 2: he said, do you mind if I do this? And
Speaker 2: I said, no, man, knock it out. And I really don't.
Speaker 2: I really don't provide much information. He you know, he
Speaker 2: he somehow he finds it out or comes up with
Speaker 2: it on his own. So it's, uh, it's definitely. I mean,
Speaker 2: I love the loonies and it's you know, it definitely
Speaker 2: provides some.
Speaker 1: Good laughter and humor on the golf course for sure.
Speaker 3: So so you you know, the tracker gives us an insight.
Speaker 3: Look that you're a you're a big foodie. Where where's
Speaker 3: the if you where's the best food outside.
Speaker 4: The US that you've been to.
Speaker 1: Outside Yeah, uh.
Speaker 2: Outside, you know it's already go wrong with the Brazilian steakhouse.
Speaker 2: You know, if you just need to gorge yourself to death.
Speaker 2: I love I found a couple of spots in Columbia
Speaker 2: that I just love, So I put that pretty high
Speaker 2: up on the loose. You know, as far as in
Speaker 2: the states, Lafayette, Louisiana is number one, and you know
Speaker 2: it's a long way to number two after that.
Speaker 3: That's that's coming up on the schedule here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's my favorite e end of the year, mainly
Speaker 2: because well I've won there, but I've stayed with with
Speaker 2: a family for six or seven years that are from there,
Speaker 2: and you know, they obviously know all the spots to
Speaker 2: take me. So it's just it's my favorite week of
Speaker 2: the year.
Speaker 3: So with a webine, like, you got a month layoff,
Speaker 3: what do you guys do?
Speaker 4: What do you do?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: What's a downtime look like? Versus you know, the weekend
Speaker 3: week out grind?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, I was gone so long. I
Speaker 2: was gone thirty four days, so you know most of
Speaker 2: mine the last I guess I've been home about ten days.
Speaker 2: It's really just being a you know, trying to be
Speaker 2: a father and a husband and trying to get back
Speaker 2: into that routine. It's a little you know, it's kind
Speaker 2: of a shock to the system when you come back,
Speaker 2: you know, because you're just been in such a selfish
Speaker 2: mode as trying to be a golfer that you know,
Speaker 2: you kind of come back and it's all right, we're
Speaker 2: gonna get the kids up, get them to school, and
Speaker 2: you know, and then kind of get back into the
Speaker 2: routine of being a husband.
Speaker 1: So it's, uh, you.
Speaker 2: Know, that's kind of what it is for me. Obviously
Speaker 2: a lot of guys are different, but uh, and really
Speaker 2: we've had some pretty crappy weathers so I haven't even
Speaker 2: I've hit balls one time in ten days, which I
Speaker 2: really was going to take playing to take all last
Speaker 2: week off anyway, but this week I would have liked
Speaker 2: to have got some work done.
Speaker 1: But we're you know, we've.
Speaker 2: Had like nine inches of rain in the last three days,
Speaker 2: so I mean, I mean I've touched the club once since.
Speaker 1: I've been home.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, balance is good.
Speaker 3: It's that that's gotta be something that's changed is how
Speaker 3: you know, imagine when you turn pro, you spend like
Speaker 3: your life gets like kind of encompassed by golf.
Speaker 2: Right, there's no doubt. Yeah, I mean obviously that's what
Speaker 2: you're that's all you're trying to do. And I mean
Speaker 2: that's all I'm still really trying to do. But now
Speaker 2: now instead of going to the golf course, you know,
Speaker 2: at nine and dicking around until five, now it's like, okay,
Speaker 2: I've got a window. My kids are at school from
Speaker 2: you know, eight to three. All right, I gotta drop
Speaker 2: them off. I gotta get my workout in, you know.
Speaker 2: Then I got four hours and this is what I
Speaker 2: gotta get done. So so why it's different, I think
Speaker 2: it's actually better because now you can't just you know,
Speaker 2: dick around, play eighteen, have lunch, not really not really
Speaker 2: have any structure. Now you've got all right, I got
Speaker 2: an hour and a half of big balls. Uh you know,
Speaker 2: I got an hour of short game practice and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go get a quick nine him before i gotta
Speaker 2: go get the kids.
Speaker 1: So it's.
Speaker 2: It's it's different, but I almost think it's better, and
Speaker 2: especially for me because I could, you know, I got
Speaker 2: some add and so I could just get out there
Speaker 2: all day and just be like what the hell did
Speaker 2: I just do all day?
Speaker 1: So it's I think it's better.
Speaker 3: Actually, maybe maybe the next big fad and professional golf
Speaker 3: will be have triplets right before you turn pro.
Speaker 2: No no, no, don't. It's just complicates things. But you know,
Speaker 2: I think that I think that, you know, for a
Speaker 2: lot of the young guys. And obviously, like I said,
Speaker 2: I was the same way, you know. And I heard
Speaker 2: a podcast with Paul Casey a few months ago and
Speaker 2: he was talking about it because he just had a kid,
Speaker 2: and he's like, really, I mean, you know, I know
Speaker 2: all these eyes like to spend all you know, you
Speaker 2: didn't get what you need to get done in four
Speaker 2: or five hours. I mean, it's not like you. You know,
Speaker 2: I think that some of the way golf's change is
Speaker 2: guys are a lot more technically correct on a day
Speaker 2: to day basis, so you know, like I don't worry
Speaker 2: about taking a week off. I actually embrace it because
Speaker 2: I know you need it.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Whereas a long time ago, before track Man and and
Speaker 2: you know all the great instruction, it was, well you know,
Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta keep going, so I keep my fields.
Speaker 2: Well now it's like, well all right, I'm gonna get
Speaker 2: on track. Man, all right, my swing looks the same. Well,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe there's a maybe it allows guys a
Speaker 2: little less, you know, to feel like they have to
Speaker 2: be out there all day every day.
Speaker 3: It's a good point, like I feel like I I
Speaker 3: do better the less I hit balls now. And it's
Speaker 3: like what David Deval said is like.
Speaker 2: There's definitely less expectation. I mean there's no doubt and
Speaker 2: you know you need you know, most players that aren't
Speaker 2: you know, top ten or fifteen or playing you know,
Speaker 2: twenty five twenty eight weeks a year. I mean you
Speaker 2: need some time off.
Speaker 1: I mean that's it.
Speaker 2: That's obviously a lot of time you know, on the
Speaker 2: road and grinding. You know, it's it's okay to give
Speaker 2: yourself a break. And I think that's one thing that's
Speaker 2: helped me, you know, really stay kind of injury freeze.
Speaker 2: I've never I've never felt like that I wasn't able
Speaker 2: to take a few days off if I felt like
Speaker 2: I needed it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's one of the things like a
Speaker 3: young pro you get down to Florida or wherever you're going,
Speaker 3: and you feel like, oh, this is my job, so
Speaker 3: you got to do like ten hour days every day
Speaker 3: or else somebody is going to pass you by.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then by the time into the tournament, you said,
Speaker 2: I'm tired. All you want to do is you know, recover.
Speaker 2: But it's so there's definitely a balance, and you know,
Speaker 2: maybe it takes some guys, you know, maybe it takes
Speaker 2: them having kids to kind of figure out that, hey,
Speaker 2: it's not I don't have to be out there all
Speaker 2: the times.
Speaker 4: So, uh, do you want to do some overrated underrated?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the Friday Eggs staple.
Speaker 1: So okay, I love it.
Speaker 4: So you just pick one one or the other.
Speaker 6: Here, track Man, I'm not allowed to say anything. Yeah,
Speaker 6: you can say, you can it's underrated.
Speaker 2: I started, Yeah, I think it's underrated. I started using one.
Speaker 2: I don't have one, like, but I think I'm the
Speaker 2: only guy that doesn't have one anymore. But you know,
Speaker 2: my instructors have one, and I love it. I don't
Speaker 2: get lost in the numbers. But I think it's I
Speaker 2: think it's revolutionized the.
Speaker 1: Way guys teach.
Speaker 3: Why why is it that everybody carries around track man,
Speaker 3: like it's like it's in its own case.
Speaker 4: It's like it's a bond, you know.
Speaker 2: It's like a it's you know, it's like a lady
Speaker 2: with a Gucci purse. It's like a status symbol. But hell,
Speaker 2: I see you guys on the mini tours. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, I need to pay twenty grand
Speaker 2: for a track man.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't understand why you can't just carry it
Speaker 3: within like a bigger bag. Everybody's got to carry it around.
Speaker 1: Well, it's like it's like the designer purse and you
Speaker 1: gotta show it off. You know.
Speaker 3: It just looks so silly because it is so small,
Speaker 3: and it's like you're carrying this big tour bag. Like
Speaker 3: you can't put that just into the bag.
Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, just put it in a nondescript backpack
Speaker 2: or something exactly.
Speaker 3: So, uh, you you're a obviously we aren't going to
Speaker 3: ask you about what a Burger. That's like your your spot.
Speaker 1: Huh yeah, yeah, that's a spot.
Speaker 3: Has have you ever had contract negotiations with what Aburger?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I've been trying, honestly, but I don't I think that
Speaker 2: I don't think they sponsored like individuals. But I'm a
Speaker 2: huge I'm a huge water Burger fan. I'm really a
Speaker 2: fan of their breakfast. I mean, I love their burgers,
Speaker 2: but I don't eat a lot of I prefer to
Speaker 2: make my own burgers.
Speaker 1: But I love their breakfast because, you.
Speaker 2: Know, let's face it, when you got a you know,
Speaker 2: it's seven o'clock tea time, I'm not gonna get up
Speaker 2: make my own breakfast. I'm just gonna hit the water
Speaker 2: Burger for a Bob.
Speaker 3: You know, you come on, So that's that's what you
Speaker 3: gotta get, Bob. I'm gonna go down. I spent some
Speaker 3: time in Texas, but I only got Boiderberger a couple times.
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna be get the you.
Speaker 2: Know, the breakfast on a bum. I mean, it's just
Speaker 2: hard to be number twenty one. Next time you're down.
Speaker 3: Try so overrated, underrated, in and out.
Speaker 1: In and out. Uh, it's I love it. I think
Speaker 1: it's great.
Speaker 2: Uh so i'd say, un well, you know, people were
Speaker 2: fanatics about it, and then people think it's way overrated,
Speaker 2: but I think it's I would say it's I think.
Speaker 1: It's very good, all right.
Speaker 3: Well like the slide with the properly rated it's okay,
Speaker 3: steak and shake overrated, Yeah, I'm in on that too.
Speaker 3: And then uh, what's what's an under what's like you're
Speaker 3: under the radar purchase outside of the breakfast at water Burger,
Speaker 3: I get the number five, the bacon cheeseburger, all right,
Speaker 3: and then uh, then we'll say last one. We're gonna
Speaker 3: say Springfield, Illinois, the Land of Lincoln.
Speaker 2: Well, I would definitely say Bloomington, Illinois overrated. I don't
Speaker 2: know about Springfield. It was I don't know what the
Speaker 2: what is the rating on Springfield?
Speaker 1: So I can overrat it or underrated.
Speaker 3: Well, if if you think if you think Bloomington's overrated,
Speaker 3: Springfield definitely over Okay, you know, I know it's a
Speaker 3: that's a We got our state aum in Bloomington this year,
Speaker 3: and I don't think I'm gonna make the trip down there.
Speaker 3: It's just.
Speaker 1: It's just a bunch of cornfield. Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was driving there from I guess he did
Speaker 2: a qualifier last year in Saint Louis, so I was
Speaker 2: driving from Saint Louis. I'm like, man, this is this
Speaker 2: is just one cornfield after another up here.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I went to school in Champagne for college, and yeah,
Speaker 3: it's just saw cornfield.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a cornfield and soybeans. Huh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a it's a tough spot in in the summer.
Speaker 3: It gets pretty hot down there.
Speaker 1: Coming off those crops.
Speaker 3: What what is the hottest place that you've you've played,
Speaker 3: like Malaysia, no doubt, it's always hot there.
Speaker 2: Oh I don't yeah, I was still obviously that people
Speaker 2: that I don't know if he loves it, but there's
Speaker 2: people that live there. There's a lot of people who
Speaker 2: live there. Man, you can have.
Speaker 3: It, all right, Well, we'll let you go and get
Speaker 3: to your workout. Everybody can followed on Twitter. Uh it's
Speaker 3: at ed Lore and then uh, oh sh see at
Speaker 3: Biggie and big D. You know, I'm just gonna cut
Speaker 3: that out because you know, get the power to do that.
Speaker 3: And then uh, of course follow the ed Lawd tracker
Speaker 3: at ed lore tracker that it'll.
Speaker 2: Be hot here in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of food updates, does it?
Speaker 3: Does the tracker ever come on site?
Speaker 2: He's been on site a couple of times, but he
Speaker 2: has he has an uncanny way of finding people that
Speaker 2: are there to kind of help him out.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, good luck and we'll be rooting for you,
Speaker 3: all right, Andy.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, man, It's fun to be on with it.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm
Speaker 6: Mmm