WEBVTT - Ed Loar

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<v Speaker 1>I miss the green. For example, I'm already upset. When

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<v Speaker 1>I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I find my ball.

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<v Speaker 2>In arid egg Friday Egg, the dreaded Frida Egg, Frida Egg,

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<v Speaker 2>Frida Egg bride Egg.

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<v Speaker 1>Lie, I'm about ready to run off of the course.

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<v Speaker 3>Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to another edition of the

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<v Speaker 3>Friday Egg Podcast. Today, I'm joined by web dot Com

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<v Speaker 3>tour player Ed Lore. Ed played college golf at Oklahoma State,

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<v Speaker 3>where he was an All American and Walker cupper, and

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<v Speaker 3>since turning pro, has spent time on almost every tour

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<v Speaker 3>in the world.

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<v Speaker 4>Ed, welcome on.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks to Andy. It's good to be with you this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>And yes, you gave me an app description of pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much played about anywhere you could ever come up with.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this year your your full time on the web.

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<v Speaker 3>You've gotten off to a great start. You had a

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<v Speaker 3>T second in Panama and T twentieth in Columbia. What

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<v Speaker 3>would you say is the difference playing abroad versus playing

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<v Speaker 3>on home turf in the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good question.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say the biggest deal, Well, logistics is the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest problem. You know, just kind of trying to figure

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<v Speaker 2>out how to get there, where to stay, how to

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<v Speaker 2>get to the golf course. You know, they take very

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<v Speaker 2>good care of us while we're down there, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of figuring out your bearings. And luckily both

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<v Speaker 2>those places I've been to enough to where for me

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<v Speaker 2>it's just kind of a normal week, Like I know

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<v Speaker 2>where to stay, I know where to eat, and know

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<v Speaker 2>how to get around. So you know, maybe I got

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of an advantge when we leave the country.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, for a god who's played in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>nine countries, it's not really that big of a deal

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<v Speaker 2>for me.

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<v Speaker 3>So of all the twenty nine countries that you've played in,

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<v Speaker 3>what spend your kind of like favorite one that you'd

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<v Speaker 3>like to maybe spend time outside of golfing at, And

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<v Speaker 3>what spend your least favorite place.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say my favorite just from a country place,

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<v Speaker 2>I think is probably Spain. I've been there a few

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<v Speaker 2>times for European Tours school and I just love just

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<v Speaker 2>the history and the architecture and kind of the beauty

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<v Speaker 2>of it. But you know, I'm there for golf. So

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<v Speaker 2>I did spend a couple of days in Barcelona a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years ago, but I haven't got to spend

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<v Speaker 2>a whole lot of time outside of playing golf, But

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's an incredible place.

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<v Speaker 1>And then.

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<v Speaker 2>My least favorite would be India. I just never I

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<v Speaker 2>never jibed whether the people were super nice, but I

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<v Speaker 2>always I always seem to get sick there, so I

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<v Speaker 2>never really jibed with India.

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<v Speaker 3>That's uh yeah, it's I mean it's crazy how you

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<v Speaker 3>know twenty nine countries and just how the European Tour

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<v Speaker 3>has turned into a world tour. I know you've tried

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<v Speaker 3>a number of times, you had a t second in

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<v Speaker 3>a year a tour start.

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<v Speaker 4>Is there a big.

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<v Speaker 3>Difference between playing in Europe versus playing on like the

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<v Speaker 3>American Tour, like the PGA Tour.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that just the depth of players. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>certain the European Tour is a great tour.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I would never say it's not. You know, the deal

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<v Speaker 2>with that tour is how often do you get their

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<v Speaker 2>top players playing there? I mean a majority of them

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<v Speaker 2>play over here now, so you've only got you know

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<v Speaker 2>a handful of events. You know, maybe one or two

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<v Speaker 2>in the desert and then you know their BMW Championship

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<v Speaker 2>and one or two other where their top flight players

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<v Speaker 2>are all playing. So you know, it gives a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of opportunity for other players to you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 2>make an impact. Whereas you know, week to week on

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<v Speaker 2>the PGA tours, you know, murderers row people playing.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a we saw, you know, Brooks Kopka make his

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<v Speaker 3>way to the PGA Tour through the European Tour. His

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<v Speaker 3>younger brothers doing that now. But then you've got like

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<v Speaker 3>Sean Crocker as another guy that's played really well. The

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<v Speaker 3>first couple starts this year over there seems to be

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<v Speaker 3>a new path that a lot of young players are

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<v Speaker 3>going on. If you, you know, you turned pro in

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand and if you redid that and started over today,

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<v Speaker 3>would you would that be something that you considered doing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I inadvertently kind of almost try to do

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<v Speaker 2>that by playing. You know, I played Asian Tour mainly

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<v Speaker 2>just because I kept failing at Q school.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know I had some chances to play in Europe.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I would have had my card one year

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<v Speaker 2>if I would have paid my affiliatecy. But that's a

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<v Speaker 2>whole nother story about paying the five end and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think It's a great idea for young guys,

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<v Speaker 2>for anybody really. Heck, I tried it last year, so

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there's only so many jobs in golf, so

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<v Speaker 2>I would encourage anybody to really go do it.

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<v Speaker 3>So kind of going into people that might not be

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<v Speaker 3>as familiar with you in your background. How did you

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<v Speaker 3>get into golf as a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>Through my dad?

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<v Speaker 2>My dad was a really good player, played a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years at University of Colorado and then played some

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<v Speaker 2>Space Coast Tour and the in Florida in the late

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<v Speaker 2>sixties early seventies, so and then he just stayed connected

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<v Speaker 2>to golf. He got into the pharmacy business, but he

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<v Speaker 2>always you know, played golf and was a plus handicap

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<v Speaker 2>till his mid forties. So kind of started out as

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<v Speaker 2>a family thing. My younger brother is a really good player,

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<v Speaker 2>played at SMU and then tried to play for a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit, so we just kind of started out as that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then obviously I kind of had an affinity for it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you know, my parents were well enough off

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<v Speaker 2>and my dad had a good plan for us, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to try to figure out how to you know, for

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<v Speaker 2>us to learn to compete and play a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>tournaments and just kind of took off from there.

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<v Speaker 3>So did you you grew up in Dallas? Where'd you

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<v Speaker 3>grow up playing down there?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm actually from the suburbs of living in a town

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<v Speaker 2>called rock Wall, so just east of town. But I

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<v Speaker 2>grew up playing a place called the Shorest Country Club,

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<v Speaker 2>just a nice little, you know, residential club out here

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<v Speaker 2>east of town.

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<v Speaker 1>And then.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I've got a couple of memberships around town

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<v Speaker 2>now different places, Lakewood country Club and then actually the

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<v Speaker 2>Shores now it's called the rock Hole Golf and Athletic Club.

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<v Speaker 2>So still you know, good to play kind of around

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<v Speaker 2>town a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>So watching the young kids today with like the day,

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<v Speaker 3>how how do you think, like, you know, development from

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<v Speaker 3>you know, junior golf to college golf to pro golf

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<v Speaker 3>has changed from you know, when you were doing it

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<v Speaker 3>in the late nineties to you know, how kids are

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<v Speaker 3>doing it now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's obviously it's so different now. You know when

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<v Speaker 2>I when I first when I first kind of came out,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it was kind of your your roadmap was,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, go to Q school. Hopefully you make it,

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<v Speaker 2>but if you don't, you just kind of work your

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<v Speaker 2>way up, keep trying work your way up some more.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's like the guys are so good so young,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like they just come out and they just

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<v Speaker 2>know they're they're going to succeed right off the bat.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it's I don't know if that's a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a mentality they learned from Tiger whereas I

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<v Speaker 2>was competing against Tiger.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>These kids are so good so young. Obviously, the everything's

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<v Speaker 2>gotten better that the instruction's gotten better, the technology has

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<v Speaker 2>gotten better, the workouts have gotten better. Nutrition, So it's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's just a way different playing field now.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hm, it's uh. I mean I see it in

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<v Speaker 3>amateur stuff. I play with like fourteen year olds who

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<v Speaker 3>are hitting the ball like two eighty and I think

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<v Speaker 3>back to like like I if I got it out

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<v Speaker 3>there like two twenty two forty when I was fourteen,

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, wow, I pumped that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean all these guys now, you know, all these

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five year olds that I play with on the

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<v Speaker 2>web tour, and it's just you know, I mean I

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<v Speaker 2>still hit it. You know, I'm above average. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm probably a two ninety five to three hundred yard hitter.

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<v Speaker 2>So I still hit it plenty far. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you just hit these kids, and this is like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you can obviously tell when the ball comes off the face.

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<v Speaker 2>Good lords, that thing ever gonna come down?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So in your years with pro golf, like, how

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<v Speaker 3>is your perception of you know, getting prepared or you know,

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<v Speaker 3>just in general of golf, how's it changed through your

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<v Speaker 3>you know, triumphs and then also the low point.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I still love it.

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<v Speaker 2>I obviously still loved it, or else I wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>doing it, you would.

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<v Speaker 1>Say a ball beater.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I love to play more than I love

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<v Speaker 2>to practice. I always look forward to Thursdays, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we're more of a drag now, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the the travel and the practice rounds and all the

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<v Speaker 2>other stuff. But you know, once Thursday comes along, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>still you know, I'm still as eager as I've ever been,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, hopefully I will continue to be that way.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, that'd be the that'd be a bad sign

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<v Speaker 3>if you're not like ready to go.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, that's when when.

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<v Speaker 2>It'd be that's about that's when you know it's time

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<v Speaker 2>to do and That's what you hear a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people say when you don't get those butterflies, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, it's kind of time to do something else.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I still get them. I still get nervous,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I still get anxious. But I think that

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<v Speaker 2>just means that you really still love it.

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<v Speaker 3>So you played on the nineteen ninety nine Walker Cup team,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know Matt Coocher, Jonathan Byrd, you and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you guys are the only three that are left playing

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<v Speaker 3>pro golf. Like, do you keep in touch with the

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<v Speaker 3>guys that from that team still?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Couple of them?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean I see those guys. I saw Jay Bird,

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<v Speaker 2>you know a few times. I guess last year when

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<v Speaker 2>he was playing back down the web, you know, running

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<v Speaker 2>the coacher every now and then and saylo, but let's

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<v Speaker 2>see Hunter Hass I still see around town because he

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<v Speaker 2>lives here. Other than that, let's see I used to

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<v Speaker 2>run into David Gausp, you know, and so many doing

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<v Speaker 2>some many tour stuff back when he was still trying

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<v Speaker 2>to play a few years ago. Maybe a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>Twitter interactions with Steve Scott as he's a high fluting

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<v Speaker 2>head pro now up on the East coast somewhere. But

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<v Speaker 2>other than that, not really that's about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, of of the guys that were on that team,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you guys did have like four you are

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<v Speaker 3>three mid AM's on that team, and uh, but of

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<v Speaker 3>the guys, who are you kind of most surprised didn't

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<v Speaker 3>make it of like you know, the Hunter has the

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<v Speaker 3>Gossaid or Steve, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, probably David just just the way his career started,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, winning the John Deere basically what one or

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<v Speaker 2>two years into his pro career and then you know

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<v Speaker 2>kind of that was the obviously the peak of it,

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<v Speaker 2>and then just ten or twelve years of for him,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, fighting it. But uh, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 2>having done it so long, I know how hard it is.

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<v Speaker 2>So nothing really surprises me either way, guys that do

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<v Speaker 2>great or guys that don't, because it's such a fine line,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, there's so many variables to a successful

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<v Speaker 2>career that you know, who knows how the ball is

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<v Speaker 2>really going to bounce for anybody.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's I mean, the difference between a t eighth

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<v Speaker 3>and a win can be just the smallest. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it could be a bounce off a car path or

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<v Speaker 3>a sprinkler.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, here maybe it's a you know, it's an

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<v Speaker 2>eight foot put on Thursday morning. It keeps around going

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<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden you shoot, you know, three

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<v Speaker 2>shots lower than you should have.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's and obviously that.

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<v Speaker 2>Stuff's hard to tell over the course of a week

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<v Speaker 2>when a guy gets in contention. But you know that

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<v Speaker 2>really is kind of how close are Like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>it's so, you know, ball hits a car path and

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<v Speaker 2>kicks left and goes back in the fairway instead of

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<v Speaker 2>kicking right and going out of bound. So it's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's how close it is.

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<v Speaker 3>What would you say is the biggest misconception from like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, just to say you meet somebody at a bar,

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<v Speaker 3>to what your job is.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, how fun it is, How cool it is to

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<v Speaker 2>be a pro golfer. I mean, it's while, it's while,

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<v Speaker 2>it's partly correct, because yes, it is cool. We can

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<v Speaker 2>play golfer a living. There's obviously so much there's so

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<v Speaker 2>much more to it. There's a lot more downside than

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the guys that you see on TV. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you're watching the top fifteen guys in the world every

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<v Speaker 2>week try to win a million dollars versus you know,

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<v Speaker 2>hundreds or thousands of us that are, you know, trying

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<v Speaker 2>to figure.

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<v Speaker 1>Out how to make money?

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<v Speaker 2>Who were you know, those guys are only marginally better

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<v Speaker 2>than the rest of us. But obviously that marginal difference

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<v Speaker 2>is the difference between making you know, fifteen million a

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<v Speaker 2>year and then barely being able to keep the lights on.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it's like a half a shot here and half

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<v Speaker 3>shot there makes all the difference.

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<v Speaker 4>It is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a ten foot there, you know, up and down here.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's just way closer than you know most people realize.

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<v Speaker 3>How has your kind of game changed over the years.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you a different player now than when you were

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<v Speaker 3>fresh out of college?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I mean I would hope, so, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>was always really aggressive, probably took a lot more chances

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<v Speaker 2>than I ever needed to. I think the last couple

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<v Speaker 2>of year years really after after twenty fourteen and the

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<v Speaker 2>last year out of my card and I really had

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<v Speaker 2>just a horrible year and kind of took a new

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<v Speaker 2>path and trying to rebuild my game. And now I

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<v Speaker 2>tried to play a lot more. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>i'd call a conservative, but a lot you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more percentage wise, and try to play a lot

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<v Speaker 2>smarter because of not not that I figured it out,

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<v Speaker 2>but just kind of over the years that I've always

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<v Speaker 2>made a lot of birdies, but I've always made a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of bogies, and that you know, the guys that

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<v Speaker 2>just do well over a long period of time, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not how many birdies they make, it's just that they

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<v Speaker 2>kind of figure out how to limit their errors. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's kind of what I've tried to start doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it tucked an agent once and they said that

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<v Speaker 3>they always look for guys that make a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>birdies because you can coach away bogies eventually, but you can't.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't teach birdies.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, and once you get on tour, it's such

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<v Speaker 2>a different game than you know, even the Web Tour

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<v Speaker 2>or certainly the Mini Tours is I mean, that's more

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<v Speaker 2>of a birdie game. You know, when you're having to

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<v Speaker 2>shoot sub twenty under, you know, versus the Big Tour,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, it's most most of the weeks it's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, ten to fifteen under. That's a way different

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<v Speaker 2>game than twenty four unders. So it's I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>an adjustment. But it's also you know, more so because

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<v Speaker 2>of the courses that you're playing.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think that, like something I've wondered for a

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<v Speaker 3>long time, is the Web is such a different tour

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<v Speaker 3>in the sense of scoring, like you just pointed out,

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think that ends up resulting the best in

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<v Speaker 3>the best tour players like Web success for like the.

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<v Speaker 1>PGA Tour, not necessarily.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't, and I wish, you know, and obviously

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<v Speaker 2>the Web Tour knows that, and I think they try

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<v Speaker 2>to find stronger golf courses. But you know, the fact

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<v Speaker 2>is they have a lot of these long standing relationships

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<v Speaker 2>with tournaments and you know, they've been there, like Boiser

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<v Speaker 2>for instance, as I've always thought it's the best tournament

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<v Speaker 2>on the schedule, but it's you know, one of the

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<v Speaker 2>weakest golf courses because it's a you know, it's a driver,

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<v Speaker 2>a hybrid and a one of your wedges every hole.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's you know, they kind of fighting uphill battle

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<v Speaker 2>with that. But I don't know how well it translates

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<v Speaker 2>to all of a sudden you go to hitting six

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<v Speaker 2>and seven irons. You know, I think your average second

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<v Speaker 2>shot on tour is No. One seventy five range. I

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<v Speaker 2>would guess on the Web Tour you know, the kid's

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<v Speaker 2>probably in one hundred and forty range, So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a huge difference.

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<v Speaker 3>It seems like to me just watching the scoring and

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<v Speaker 3>not having seen a lot of the courses that the

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<v Speaker 3>courses in like Central and Central America and Latin America

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<v Speaker 3>are usually a little bit tougher and closer to like

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<v Speaker 3>PGA two are scoring.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no doubt. I mean, look at this year. You

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<v Speaker 2>know what Langley won at seven under in Panama. You know,

0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:18.160
<v Speaker 2>the Mahamas weren't that Batman, mostly because of the win.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, last week Taylor shot really low, but other

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<v Speaker 2>than that, you know, he was the only guy in

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<v Speaker 2>double digits. You know, a lot of that's obviously with

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<v Speaker 2>the conditions. You know, it tends to get windy those

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<v Speaker 2>in those countries. You know, the greens were really small

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<v Speaker 2>and firm, which I think a lot of us would

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<v Speaker 2>like to see every week. But yeah, when you get here,

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<v Speaker 2>I call it a lot of country club golf. You

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<v Speaker 2>play a lot of nice country club courses. But obviously

0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:51.240
<v Speaker 2>you put really good players on country club courses and

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<v Speaker 2>what are they you know they're going to shoot twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five unders.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, you're right.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you were going to set up a golf

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<v Speaker 3>course to to test modern day professional how how would

0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:06.440
<v Speaker 3>you set it up in terms of it to get

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<v Speaker 3>the best best competition.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, that's a tough one because you know, really

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<v Speaker 2>using today's equipment, it's going to be so hard. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I know you guys were way big in

0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:23.520
<v Speaker 2>the golf court of course architecture. But you know, the

0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:27.040
<v Speaker 2>things that give guys trouble, in my opinion, or are

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<v Speaker 2>when you make them have to curve the ball off

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<v Speaker 2>the tee. You know, obviously firm greens. You know, they

0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:41.040
<v Speaker 2>do a great job of hiding pins already. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I remember up let's see a couple of the US

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<v Speaker 2>Opens I played, and and uh, you know, the hardest

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<v Speaker 2>holes weren't necessarily the longest ones. It was ones that

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you had to curve a ball ten or twenty yards.

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<v Speaker 2>So that seems to be the biggest thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. They look at Riviera last week. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I know they've.

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<v Speaker 2>Stretched it out, but you we got a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>dog legs where guys kind of have to move the ball,

0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:08.840
<v Speaker 2>and you know it's hard with the balls and the clubs. Uh,

0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:11.399
<v Speaker 2>you know, really to get a ball to curve. So

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<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, that's the hardest. That's how you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to create the hardest conditions.

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<v Speaker 3>That's something I've wanted to do, like a post about

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<v Speaker 3>It's like if you look back at like Tiger's most

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<v Speaker 3>famous shots and like just the most famous shot, like

0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:31.119
<v Speaker 3>the most memorable shots in golf for like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>in the early two thousands and nineties, we're all like

0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:37.919
<v Speaker 3>recovery shots where you know, he curved a ball like

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<v Speaker 3>you know, out of the rough and you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>turned at thirty yards. And today, like the most famous

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<v Speaker 3>shots are just like Dustin Johnson hitting like a driver

0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:49.960
<v Speaker 3>that doesn't move an inch right down the middle of

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<v Speaker 3>the caraway.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it's funny, you say, because like when I tell

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<v Speaker 2>people the biggest difference I've seen in golf is that,

0:20:58.800 --> 0:21:00.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, when I used to watch off when I

0:21:00.560 --> 0:21:03.159
<v Speaker 2>was a kid, and you know, you turn on the

0:21:03.359 --> 0:21:06.920
<v Speaker 2>Buick Classic at Warwick Hills and some guy's nursing a

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<v Speaker 2>one shot lead, and you know, he takes his per

0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:13.600
<v Speaker 2>seven three wood and hits his you know, hits a

0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:15.880
<v Speaker 2>squeeze fade off the last hole to try to get

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<v Speaker 2>it in play. And now it's like you see a

0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:19.840
<v Speaker 2>guy with a one shot lead, what does he do?

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<v Speaker 2>He teases driver as high as he can and tries

0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:25.119
<v Speaker 2>to hit it three point fifty. And so, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's kind of the biggest thing that I've seen is

0:21:28.520 --> 0:21:32.199
<v Speaker 2>that there's no fear. But and there's not there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot less creativity, And I think that's just because of

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of.

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<v Speaker 1>The you know, the equipment and the training. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I do agree.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean if I if I counted off the

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<v Speaker 2>top ten best shots I've probably ever hit in my life,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, seven or eight of them are probably crazy

0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:48.719
<v Speaker 2>shots that I've hit out of the woods, you know,

0:21:49.520 --> 0:21:51.080
<v Speaker 2>because those are the ones you remember. I mean, you

0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:54.439
<v Speaker 2>remember the you remember the fifty yards slice you hit

0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:56.600
<v Speaker 2>with the three wood onto the green, and you know

0:21:56.760 --> 0:22:00.960
<v Speaker 2>that's obviously way more memorable than just one three ten

0:22:01.080 --> 0:22:02.000
<v Speaker 2>down the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Yeah.

0:22:03.280 --> 0:22:05.360
<v Speaker 3>And then with today, like if you put the ball

0:22:05.400 --> 0:22:08.439
<v Speaker 3>on the rough with today's equipment, it's like so hard

0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:09.600
<v Speaker 3>to move a ball.

0:22:11.000 --> 0:22:12.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no doubt, it's hard. Yeah, it's hard to move

0:22:12.920 --> 0:22:15.840
<v Speaker 2>a ball, you know. Yeah, obviously from the fairway and

0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:19.000
<v Speaker 2>much less put some grass interference in there, then you're

0:22:19.040 --> 0:22:21.000
<v Speaker 2>really gonna have a hard time getting it to go anywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>It's I've kind of a theory that like the golf

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<v Speaker 3>swing has changed a little bit because of technology, would you,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, would you agree with that?

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<v Speaker 1>No doubt it has.

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<v Speaker 2>It's way less Uh well, I think it's way less

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<v Speaker 2>uh depending on your hand action, which is probably good,

0:22:40.160 --> 0:22:43.240
<v Speaker 2>but obviously that takes probably some of the creativity out

0:22:43.520 --> 0:22:47.720
<v Speaker 2>and now guys are are just uh, you know, smashing

0:22:47.800 --> 0:22:48.480
<v Speaker 2>it every time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's kind of think like I've like half written

0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:55.480
<v Speaker 3>an article about this, but like the you know, there's

0:22:55.520 --> 0:22:58.359
<v Speaker 3>so much success with the young twenty year olds now

0:22:58.560 --> 0:23:01.760
<v Speaker 3>because they grew up with this golf swing and technology.

0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:06.280
<v Speaker 2>So I agree, And I don't you know, they weren't taught,

0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:09.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, when they grew up, they were they practiced

0:23:09.600 --> 0:23:13.280
<v Speaker 2>with the track man. They practice, you know, basically hitting

0:23:13.280 --> 0:23:18.119
<v Speaker 2>it as hard as they can, and the technology and

0:23:18.160 --> 0:23:20.040
<v Speaker 2>everything they grew up with it doesn't really allow it

0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:20.440
<v Speaker 2>to curve.

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<v Speaker 1>So I agree.

0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:28.640
<v Speaker 3>So with getting back to kind of your experience all

0:23:28.680 --> 0:23:31.320
<v Speaker 3>over the world, you know, you hear a lot of

0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:36.879
<v Speaker 3>tales of caddies and and in Central and Latin America

0:23:37.000 --> 0:23:38.560
<v Speaker 3>and South America and.

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<v Speaker 4>You know where what's been the worst.

0:23:41.280 --> 0:23:43.119
<v Speaker 3>Caddy that you've had across the world.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a guy in Uh. I had a guy

0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:51.120
<v Speaker 2>in uh where was I Brazil a couple of years ago?

0:23:51.200 --> 0:23:53.359
<v Speaker 2>During it and did I actually ended up getting rid

0:23:53.400 --> 0:23:55.760
<v Speaker 2>of getting rid of him after the practice round. But

0:23:57.280 --> 0:24:01.000
<v Speaker 2>unlike the fifteenth hole in the practice round, he cracked

0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:05.480
<v Speaker 2>open a beer, so you know, that kind of told

0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:07.480
<v Speaker 2>me that he probably wouldn't be real serious about what

0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:09.720
<v Speaker 2>he was doing, so I had to go find another one.

0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:14.640
<v Speaker 2>But uh, I think that's the only time I've really

0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:18.200
<v Speaker 2>had to fire a guy before the round. But you know,

0:24:19.400 --> 0:24:21.960
<v Speaker 2>you never know, I've had some, you know a lot

0:24:21.960 --> 0:24:23.959
<v Speaker 2>of the best guddies. I had for these ladies when

0:24:24.000 --> 0:24:25.720
<v Speaker 2>I was playing the Asian Tour just with the pool

0:24:25.800 --> 0:24:27.720
<v Speaker 2>card and you know, he didn't speak a wacky English,

0:24:27.720 --> 0:24:30.800
<v Speaker 2>but they did exactly what they were supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 3>So speaking of you know, you you you made it

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<v Speaker 3>really big when you were using the push card on

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<v Speaker 3>the Adams Store.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, and.

0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:46.480
<v Speaker 3>Mutual friend Todd Mitchell is so anti pushcart. Do you

0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:50.040
<v Speaker 3>do you think that the push card helps you on

0:24:50.080 --> 0:24:50.840
<v Speaker 3>the golf course.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I will have to admit Andie that I was

0:24:56.920 --> 0:25:01.960
<v Speaker 2>like mister anti pushcart as well. I actually I was

0:25:02.000 --> 0:25:05.480
<v Speaker 2>playing a uh. I was playing an Adams in Saint

0:25:05.560 --> 0:25:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Louis a.

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<v Speaker 1>Couple of years ago, and I thought I was gonna

0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:09.800
<v Speaker 1>die it was so hot.

0:25:10.000 --> 0:25:13.320
<v Speaker 2>So I went to a Dick's Sporting good and bought

0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:17.400
<v Speaker 2>a floor model pushcart. And now I don't know, I'm

0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:19.760
<v Speaker 2>like now, I just think I'm so dumb for, you know,

0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:23.399
<v Speaker 2>going so long without using one. But you know, it

0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:26.000
<v Speaker 2>just kind of I'm one of those guys I played

0:25:26.040 --> 0:25:30.960
<v Speaker 2>so much golf really just relying on myself. I mean,

0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:34.160
<v Speaker 2>I just think yourself reliance. You know, there's a lot

0:25:34.200 --> 0:25:37.639
<v Speaker 2>more when you have a pushcart, but you got nobody

0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:39.960
<v Speaker 2>to blame but yourself. So but I love them now.

0:25:40.440 --> 0:25:44.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm on team pushcart too. I used to be

0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:47.240
<v Speaker 3>a big carrier and I always would carry, but like now,

0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:49.159
<v Speaker 3>I think it's so dumb. It's like you play the

0:25:49.280 --> 0:25:53.199
<v Speaker 3>sport where you depend on your like shoulders a lot

0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:56.160
<v Speaker 3>in the golf swing, Like why would you dumb?

0:25:56.320 --> 0:25:56.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:25:56.560 --> 0:25:59.000
<v Speaker 5>Well, and I know these college tournaments where we used

0:25:59.000 --> 0:26:03.760
<v Speaker 5>to carry thirty day and man, I mean obviously we

0:26:03.760 --> 0:26:08.560
<v Speaker 5>were twenty then, but still I can't believe how much

0:26:08.600 --> 0:26:11.160
<v Speaker 5>fresh dri I feel now after just choosing a little pusher.

0:26:11.480 --> 0:26:15.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's Todd Telman was complaining that you have to

0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:19.040
<v Speaker 3>walk around a green the one time he used it,

0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:20.240
<v Speaker 3>and I was like, let's.

0:26:20.240 --> 0:26:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Let's be honest.

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:23.320
<v Speaker 2>Mitchell doesn't play any tournaments where he doesn't have a

0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:25.280
<v Speaker 2>caddy anyway, so what does he really know.

0:26:26.280 --> 0:26:29.320
<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm saying. Everybody's like, you should take a caddy.

0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:31.320
<v Speaker 3>It's like, I'm not paying for a caddy. I I'm

0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:41.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm a I'm an internet blogger exactly, So it's uh, yeah,

0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:44.280
<v Speaker 3>the the push card is I think, and I think

0:26:44.280 --> 0:26:47.480
<v Speaker 3>I've I've heard I think I think it might have

0:26:47.520 --> 0:26:51.800
<v Speaker 3>been UNLV's coach says that they statistically proved that save

0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:53.960
<v Speaker 3>like a shot or a half a shot around.

0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I think actually was Conrad ray Stanford.

0:26:58.880 --> 0:27:02.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, anybody that is trying to play tournament

0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:05.520
<v Speaker 3>golf and throwing a bag on their shoulders all the time,

0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:10.240
<v Speaker 3>like you, there's there's no way you can't say that

0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:13.480
<v Speaker 3>it helps you to have fresher body when you're playing.

0:27:15.240 --> 0:27:16.919
<v Speaker 2>I agree, you just got to feel way better. But

0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:18.600
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day, there's no doubt.

0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:24.520
<v Speaker 3>So you've got triplets. I imagine that that adds a

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:29.040
<v Speaker 3>little bit of challenge to the playing all over the world.

0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:31.640
<v Speaker 3>When you when you had kids that when you found

0:27:31.640 --> 0:27:33.760
<v Speaker 3>out it was triplets, was there a was there a

0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:35.359
<v Speaker 3>moment where you said, oh shit.

0:27:38.960 --> 0:27:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, honestly, I mean there's not a day that goes

0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:42.359
<v Speaker 2>by that I don't say oh shit.

0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:46.920
<v Speaker 1>But you know, it's funny.

0:27:46.960 --> 0:27:49.640
<v Speaker 2>I really played probably some of my best golf right

0:27:49.640 --> 0:27:52.040
<v Speaker 2>if they were born, and you know, I think that's

0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:54.240
<v Speaker 2>just kind of you know, they kind of added a

0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:58.320
<v Speaker 2>real perspective to life of you know, how stupid golf

0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:01.680
<v Speaker 2>is compared to you know, being a dad of three

0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:05.640
<v Speaker 2>little kids. So you know, they obviously you'll offer that

0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:08.560
<v Speaker 2>to me, but you know, there's definitely pressure. I mean,

0:28:10.000 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't know if anybody told me how

0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:13.760
<v Speaker 2>expensive kids were when I before I had them. A

0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 2>good lord man, you just can't you can't make enough money.

0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 2>It seems like, uh, you know, they're the apple of

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 2>my eye. You know, they're kind of the reason I play,

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:27.359
<v Speaker 2>and I just you know, I love them to death.

0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:31.800
<v Speaker 3>Really, I think perspective with golf is so important. I

0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:34.359
<v Speaker 3>thought about trying to play for a little bit and

0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:37.520
<v Speaker 3>then you start, like I started working and then all

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:39.600
<v Speaker 3>of a sudden, I'd go out and play, like they

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 3>say a year after and like, I played so much

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:46.920
<v Speaker 3>better because I realized how insignificant little things in golf are.

0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean the first year that I got my

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:52.720
<v Speaker 2>tour card was the end of twenty eleven, and I

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 2>was my my twelfth try through Q school, and you know,

0:28:56.920 --> 0:29:01.120
<v Speaker 2>my kids were born in September, and you know, it

0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 2>obviously had something to do with it. I mean I

0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:07.680
<v Speaker 2>brought I got to bring my let's see, yeah, I

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:09.640
<v Speaker 2>got to bring my daughter home. You know, they were

0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:12.120
<v Speaker 2>kind of in the nick you and then special care

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:14.760
<v Speaker 2>nursery at the hospital. I mean, I brought my daughter

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 2>home after the third round of second stays of Q school.

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:20.240
<v Speaker 2>So you know, if you think that doesn't make me

0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:22.600
<v Speaker 2>more relaxed, and I'm like, well, this is pretty This

0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:25.520
<v Speaker 2>is way more awesome than you know, trying to shoot

0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:27.840
<v Speaker 2>sixty eight at Craig Ranch tomorrow. I mean, this is

0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:31.280
<v Speaker 2>this is obviously way more important. So you know, there's

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:33.640
<v Speaker 2>no doubt in my mind that that that that had

0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:37.120
<v Speaker 2>something to do with me, you know, finally getting through

0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:38.240
<v Speaker 2>on my twelfth.

0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:40.160
<v Speaker 4>Try, getting getting three right, off.

0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:44.200
<v Speaker 3>The bat's got to be just like being thrown into

0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:47.920
<v Speaker 3>like a being an NFL quarterback and seeing like a

0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 3>an eight man blitz.

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, you just, you know, I think at this point

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:57.880
<v Speaker 2>we're actually lucky that, uh, you know, we didn't have

0:29:58.000 --> 0:30:00.959
<v Speaker 2>one beforehand, and we knew how hard one was. We

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:03.920
<v Speaker 2>just kind of did it with three. You know, all

0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:05.560
<v Speaker 2>these people are like, I don't know how you did three.

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:08.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well, that's all we knew, you know, But

0:30:08.640 --> 0:30:11.520
<v Speaker 2>now it's now. I actually prefer it because at least

0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:13.960
<v Speaker 2>my kids are all doing the same thing. Now I

0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:18.040
<v Speaker 2>think about you know, I mean my parents had four

0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:19.840
<v Speaker 2>kids and they were all kind of spaced two or

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:22.040
<v Speaker 2>three years apart. Or you know, all these friends I

0:30:22.080 --> 0:30:24.960
<v Speaker 2>know that have the spaced apart of my man, you know,

0:30:25.000 --> 0:30:26.760
<v Speaker 2>at least I get to sleep. I don't have a

0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:29.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, an age six and you know, a one

0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:33.840
<v Speaker 2>year old that still doesn't sleep. So I wouldn't obviously trade.

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 1>It for the world.

0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I guess that is true.

0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:39.360
<v Speaker 3>You have all the same problems that every year.

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:41.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:47.480
<v Speaker 3>So you've seen the Q school process change. Did you

0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 3>prefer the you know, ability to get straight to the

0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 3>tour or do you think this current system is better.

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:57.680
<v Speaker 2>No, I would have preferred the old one, and I

0:30:57.680 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 2>think every player pretty much would have just kind of

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:05.440
<v Speaker 2>gives you an opportunity to you know, I think there

0:31:05.480 --> 0:31:07.440
<v Speaker 2>needs to be an opportunity to still get to the

0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:11.040
<v Speaker 2>big show. Rather, you know, you're some hot shot kid

0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:13.320
<v Speaker 2>that thinks he can go right to the tour, or

0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:16.600
<v Speaker 2>some guy that maybe just barely missed his car, to

0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:20.200
<v Speaker 2>give him a chance to get it back. You know,

0:31:20.240 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't I understand why they did it, you know,

0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:26.360
<v Speaker 2>for the sponsorship of the web dot Com tour. So

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:30.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, obviously it comes down to money a lot

0:31:30.120 --> 0:31:31.560
<v Speaker 2>of times, which a lot.

0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:32.240
<v Speaker 1>Of the world does.

0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 2>So I get why they did it, but I don't

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:37.120
<v Speaker 2>necessarily think it's.

0:31:37.000 --> 0:31:40.440
<v Speaker 1>A better deal. It's uh.

0:31:40.680 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 4>I I feel like it.

0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:47.840
<v Speaker 3>I like that the the web means more now, but

0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 3>I do I did like the idea of like everybody's

0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:54.200
<v Speaker 3>got a shot to make it.

0:31:55.680 --> 0:31:58.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, you talk about trauma. I mean it

0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:00.840
<v Speaker 2>was some of the best drama in the world, and

0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:03.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, I unfortunately was was the like the last

0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 2>guy that really had a Q School meltdown at the

0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:11.640
<v Speaker 2>end of uh, you know, twenty twelve to get back

0:32:11.680 --> 0:32:15.320
<v Speaker 2>to the tour. Uh, you know, the year before I

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:16.920
<v Speaker 2>was one of the guys that got my card. So

0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:20.720
<v Speaker 2>I've experienced obviously both sides of it. But I mean,

0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:24.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't, I don't. I've never really felt pressure like

0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:27.080
<v Speaker 2>I have a Q school. I mean, when you're obviously

0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:30.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, quote unquote playing for your job, it's you know,

0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:32.280
<v Speaker 2>it's a little different animal.

0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 3>What uh what what was your Q school?

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Uh?

0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:41.760
<v Speaker 3>You know, drama and then also the like the triumph,

0:32:42.200 --> 0:32:45.520
<v Speaker 3>give give the listeners, both both sides of the coin.

0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, obviously at eleven I had some triumph because

0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:52.800
<v Speaker 2>I got you know, I think I finished whatever T

0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 2>twentieth or something to get my car. And then you know,

0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:59.280
<v Speaker 2>the next year I had my tour car. Now I

0:32:59.360 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 2>ended up playing and probably almost as much on the

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:04.600
<v Speaker 2>Web Tour, and I had won on the Web Tour

0:33:04.640 --> 0:33:06.240
<v Speaker 2>in Panama all of the year, so I had I

0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:11.560
<v Speaker 2>had job security. But I went back to finals and

0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:13.360
<v Speaker 2>I was playing really good. I think I started the

0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 2>last round in third or fourth place and I shot

0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:21.040
<v Speaker 2>seventy seven, including you know, hitting it in the water

0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:25.520
<v Speaker 2>on Alcatraz and blah blah blah, and ended up I

0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:29.840
<v Speaker 2>think I shot seventy seven or seventy eight maybe and

0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:32.040
<v Speaker 2>didn't get my card. So I was like the last

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:35.480
<v Speaker 2>guy that, you know, truly kind of melted down to

0:33:35.560 --> 0:33:39.320
<v Speaker 2>missus card. But actually it was fine because the next year,

0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:42.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, in thirteen, I had my best year.

0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:44.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, really in pro golf.

0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Finished I think fourth on the Web Tour, pretty much

0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:53.280
<v Speaker 2>had my card locked up by March, so I'm sure

0:33:53.320 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 2>that had something to do with it. And I had

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 2>some you know, some innermotivation to kind of, you know,

0:33:58.320 --> 0:34:03.960
<v Speaker 2>prove myself right. But it's, uh, it's I definitely have

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:06.200
<v Speaker 2>lived all parts of golf.

0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:10.120
<v Speaker 3>There's no doubt from like a personal side, Like I

0:34:10.239 --> 0:34:12.479
<v Speaker 3>the year before I qualified for the mid Am.

0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:13.520
<v Speaker 4>Two years ago I didn't.

0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:16.279
<v Speaker 3>I didn't play this year because of my wedding, But

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:20.479
<v Speaker 3>the year before I was like, I was two under

0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:25.280
<v Speaker 3>on the seventeenth hole and I made I finished double double,

0:34:25.960 --> 0:34:28.919
<v Speaker 3>and I played in Indianapolis and I had to drive.

0:34:29.000 --> 0:34:31.279
<v Speaker 3>I drove home from there and it was like the

0:34:31.320 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 3>worst drive of my life. You know, both both holes

0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:37.439
<v Speaker 3>I've hit in the fairway. Then but then the next year,

0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:39.919
<v Speaker 3>It's so funny how golf works, Like the next year

0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:43.279
<v Speaker 3>I'm playing, and I'm just like, I wasn't really playing well.

0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:44.920
<v Speaker 3>I was even par but I was just like kind

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:47.600
<v Speaker 3>of scraping around, you know, one of those rounds, and

0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:50.759
<v Speaker 3>h I hit a wedge close on like the thirteenth hole,

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:53.080
<v Speaker 3>and then all of a sudden, everything clicked and I finished.

0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:55.359
<v Speaker 3>I burdied that hole, but then I birdied three on

0:34:55.400 --> 0:34:57.799
<v Speaker 3>my last four, and like, you just make it in

0:34:58.120 --> 0:35:01.319
<v Speaker 3>and it's like, you know, it's not that hard, you know,

0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:04.160
<v Speaker 3>but you always make it hard on yourself.

0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:06.760
<v Speaker 1>It's just such a dumb game.

0:35:06.840 --> 0:35:10.560
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I mean you just hear those stories

0:35:10.600 --> 0:35:12.239
<v Speaker 2>all the time about the guy that was in such

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:15.480
<v Speaker 2>good position and fell apart, and the guy that was, you know,

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:18.400
<v Speaker 2>four off the cut line and birdie four of his

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:19.359
<v Speaker 2>last five and then.

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:21.719
<v Speaker 1>Shot sixty six sixty six and finished eighth.

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just such a dumb game, and I

0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:26.640
<v Speaker 2>don't know why we all try to figure it out.

0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:29.560
<v Speaker 3>You've got a You're one of the rare pros that

0:35:29.640 --> 0:35:36.760
<v Speaker 3>has a full time tracker, I mean behind the big cat,

0:35:36.960 --> 0:35:40.400
<v Speaker 3>I mean, ed Lord tracker has got to be number

0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:42.719
<v Speaker 3>two most followed tracker out there.

0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:45.560
<v Speaker 2>There's no doubt. And then Ed Lord tracker is definitely

0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:49.000
<v Speaker 2>way more entertaining. He's the most entertaining tracker on tour.

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:55.040
<v Speaker 2>You know, anything that's based more on your eating habits

0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:57.400
<v Speaker 2>than your golf has got to be way more entertainment

0:35:57.400 --> 0:35:58.279
<v Speaker 2>for the Twitter world.

0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:04.320
<v Speaker 3>No doubt did the tracker come about.

0:36:04.560 --> 0:36:07.160
<v Speaker 2>It's you know, I'll be honest with you. I've met

0:36:07.160 --> 0:36:09.680
<v Speaker 2>the guy twice, just for a few minutes. I've had

0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:14.200
<v Speaker 2>a ton of interactions with him on texting, social media.

0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:18.120
<v Speaker 2>It's a left handed guy. I will not divulge his identity.

0:36:18.200 --> 0:36:21.040
<v Speaker 2>But and a few years ago when I was on tour,

0:36:21.120 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 2>he said, do you mind if I do this? And

0:36:23.320 --> 0:36:27.239
<v Speaker 2>I said, no, man, knock it out. And I really don't.

0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:31.800
<v Speaker 2>I really don't provide much information. He you know, he

0:36:31.800 --> 0:36:34.120
<v Speaker 2>he somehow he finds it out or comes up with

0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 2>it on his own. So it's, uh, it's definitely. I mean,

0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:42.400
<v Speaker 2>I love the loonies and it's you know, it definitely

0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:43.279
<v Speaker 2>provides some.

0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Good laughter and humor on the golf course for sure.

0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:50.360
<v Speaker 3>So so you you know, the tracker gives us an insight.

0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:53.880
<v Speaker 3>Look that you're a you're a big foodie. Where where's

0:36:53.920 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 3>the if you where's the best food outside.

0:36:57.680 --> 0:36:59.000
<v Speaker 4>The US that you've been to.

0:37:01.040 --> 0:37:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Outside Yeah, uh.

0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:11.520
<v Speaker 2>Outside, you know it's already go wrong with the Brazilian steakhouse.

0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:15.319
<v Speaker 2>You know, if you just need to gorge yourself to death.

0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:20.120
<v Speaker 2>I love I found a couple of spots in Columbia

0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:23.440
<v Speaker 2>that I just love, So I put that pretty high

0:37:23.480 --> 0:37:25.200
<v Speaker 2>up on the loose. You know, as far as in

0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:29.839
<v Speaker 2>the states, Lafayette, Louisiana is number one, and you know

0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 2>it's a long way to number two after that.

0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:34.759
<v Speaker 3>That's that's coming up on the schedule here.

0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:37.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's my favorite e end of the year, mainly

0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 2>because well I've won there, but I've stayed with with

0:37:42.200 --> 0:37:45.279
<v Speaker 2>a family for six or seven years that are from there,

0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:48.120
<v Speaker 2>and you know, they obviously know all the spots to

0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:51.360
<v Speaker 2>take me. So it's just it's my favorite week of

0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:51.680
<v Speaker 2>the year.

0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:55.240
<v Speaker 3>So with a webine, like, you got a month layoff,

0:37:55.320 --> 0:37:56.839
<v Speaker 3>what do you guys do?

0:37:57.040 --> 0:37:57.640
<v Speaker 4>What do you do?

0:37:57.800 --> 0:37:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Like?

0:37:57.960 --> 0:38:01.480
<v Speaker 3>What's a downtime look like? Versus you know, the weekend

0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:02.440
<v Speaker 3>week out grind?

0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:05.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, you know, I was gone so long. I

0:38:05.120 --> 0:38:08.560
<v Speaker 2>was gone thirty four days, so you know most of

0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:12.040
<v Speaker 2>mine the last I guess I've been home about ten days.

0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:14.799
<v Speaker 2>It's really just being a you know, trying to be

0:38:14.840 --> 0:38:16.839
<v Speaker 2>a father and a husband and trying to get back

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:20.399
<v Speaker 2>into that routine. It's a little you know, it's kind

0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:22.400
<v Speaker 2>of a shock to the system when you come back,

0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:25.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, because you're just been in such a selfish

0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:28.279
<v Speaker 2>mode as trying to be a golfer that you know,

0:38:28.360 --> 0:38:30.040
<v Speaker 2>you kind of come back and it's all right, we're

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:31.960
<v Speaker 2>gonna get the kids up, get them to school, and

0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:34.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, and then kind of get back into the

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:35.760
<v Speaker 2>routine of being a husband.

0:38:35.800 --> 0:38:38.120
<v Speaker 1>So it's, uh, you.

0:38:38.080 --> 0:38:40.240
<v Speaker 2>Know, that's kind of what it is for me. Obviously

0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:43.720
<v Speaker 2>a lot of guys are different, but uh, and really

0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:47.560
<v Speaker 2>we've had some pretty crappy weathers so I haven't even

0:38:48.200 --> 0:38:50.799
<v Speaker 2>I've hit balls one time in ten days, which I

0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:54.080
<v Speaker 2>really was going to take playing to take all last

0:38:54.080 --> 0:38:57.080
<v Speaker 2>week off anyway, but this week I would have liked

0:38:57.080 --> 0:38:58.160
<v Speaker 2>to have got some work done.

0:38:58.200 --> 0:38:59.760
<v Speaker 1>But we're you know, we've.

0:38:59.600 --> 0:39:02.040
<v Speaker 2>Had like nine inches of rain in the last three days,

0:39:02.040 --> 0:39:06.440
<v Speaker 2>so I mean, I mean I've touched the club once since.

0:39:06.239 --> 0:39:06.759
<v Speaker 1>I've been home.

0:39:07.680 --> 0:39:09.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, balance is good.

0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:14.960
<v Speaker 3>It's that that's gotta be something that's changed is how

0:39:15.719 --> 0:39:20.080
<v Speaker 3>you know, imagine when you turn pro, you spend like

0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:23.160
<v Speaker 3>your life gets like kind of encompassed by golf.

0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:28.680
<v Speaker 2>Right, there's no doubt. Yeah, I mean obviously that's what

0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:30.560
<v Speaker 2>you're that's all you're trying to do. And I mean

0:39:30.600 --> 0:39:33.360
<v Speaker 2>that's all I'm still really trying to do. But now

0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:37.279
<v Speaker 2>now instead of going to the golf course, you know,

0:39:37.440 --> 0:39:41.800
<v Speaker 2>at nine and dicking around until five, now it's like, okay,

0:39:41.840 --> 0:39:44.120
<v Speaker 2>I've got a window. My kids are at school from

0:39:44.840 --> 0:39:47.839
<v Speaker 2>you know, eight to three. All right, I gotta drop

0:39:47.920 --> 0:39:50.520
<v Speaker 2>them off. I gotta get my workout in, you know.

0:39:50.719 --> 0:39:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Then I got four hours and this is what I

0:39:53.080 --> 0:39:57.560
<v Speaker 2>gotta get done. So so why it's different, I think

0:39:57.680 --> 0:40:00.759
<v Speaker 2>it's actually better because now you can't just you know,

0:40:01.160 --> 0:40:05.520
<v Speaker 2>dick around, play eighteen, have lunch, not really not really

0:40:05.560 --> 0:40:07.920
<v Speaker 2>have any structure. Now you've got all right, I got

0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:11.160
<v Speaker 2>an hour and a half of big balls. Uh you know,

0:40:11.239 --> 0:40:13.279
<v Speaker 2>I got an hour of short game practice and I'm

0:40:13.280 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 2>gonna go get a quick nine him before i gotta

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:15.920
<v Speaker 2>go get the kids.

0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:17.640
<v Speaker 1>So it's.

0:40:18.840 --> 0:40:21.239
<v Speaker 2>It's it's different, but I almost think it's better, and

0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:23.839
<v Speaker 2>especially for me because I could, you know, I got

0:40:23.880 --> 0:40:26.040
<v Speaker 2>some add and so I could just get out there

0:40:26.040 --> 0:40:28.480
<v Speaker 2>all day and just be like what the hell did

0:40:28.520 --> 0:40:29.399
<v Speaker 2>I just do all day?

0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:31.320
<v Speaker 1>So it's I think it's better.

0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:36.160
<v Speaker 3>Actually, maybe maybe the next big fad and professional golf

0:40:36.160 --> 0:40:39.040
<v Speaker 3>will be have triplets right before you turn pro.

0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:45.560
<v Speaker 2>No no, no, don't. It's just complicates things. But you know,

0:40:45.640 --> 0:40:48.080
<v Speaker 2>I think that I think that, you know, for a

0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:50.640
<v Speaker 2>lot of the young guys. And obviously, like I said,

0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:53.399
<v Speaker 2>I was the same way, you know. And I heard

0:40:53.400 --> 0:40:55.400
<v Speaker 2>a podcast with Paul Casey a few months ago and

0:40:55.440 --> 0:40:57.200
<v Speaker 2>he was talking about it because he just had a kid,

0:40:57.280 --> 0:41:00.320
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, really, I mean, you know, I know

0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:03.960
<v Speaker 2>all these eyes like to spend all you know, you

0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:06.120
<v Speaker 2>didn't get what you need to get done in four

0:41:06.200 --> 0:41:09.080
<v Speaker 2>or five hours. I mean, it's not like you. You know,

0:41:09.520 --> 0:41:12.759
<v Speaker 2>I think that some of the way golf's change is

0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:16.000
<v Speaker 2>guys are a lot more technically correct on a day

0:41:16.040 --> 0:41:18.799
<v Speaker 2>to day basis, so you know, like I don't worry

0:41:18.880 --> 0:41:21.840
<v Speaker 2>about taking a week off. I actually embrace it because

0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:22.839
<v Speaker 2>I know you need it.

0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:24.040
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:41:24.160 --> 0:41:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Whereas a long time ago, before track Man and and

0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:32.120
<v Speaker 2>you know all the great instruction, it was, well you know,

0:41:32.200 --> 0:41:34.720
<v Speaker 2>I gotta I gotta keep going, so I keep my fields.

0:41:34.800 --> 0:41:36.719
<v Speaker 2>Well now it's like, well all right, I'm gonna get

0:41:36.719 --> 0:41:38.919
<v Speaker 2>on track. Man, all right, my swing looks the same. Well,

0:41:40.480 --> 0:41:43.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe there's a maybe it allows guys a

0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:46.279
<v Speaker 2>little less, you know, to feel like they have to

0:41:46.320 --> 0:41:47.879
<v Speaker 2>be out there all day every day.

0:41:48.560 --> 0:41:51.279
<v Speaker 3>It's a good point, like I feel like I I

0:41:51.360 --> 0:41:54.919
<v Speaker 3>do better the less I hit balls now. And it's

0:41:54.960 --> 0:41:57.839
<v Speaker 3>like what David Deval said is like.

0:41:57.760 --> 0:42:00.759
<v Speaker 2>There's definitely less expectation. I mean there's no doubt and

0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:05.680
<v Speaker 2>you know you need you know, most players that aren't

0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:08.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, top ten or fifteen or playing you know,

0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:11.960
<v Speaker 2>twenty five twenty eight weeks a year. I mean you

0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:13.439
<v Speaker 2>need some time off.

0:42:13.520 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's it.

0:42:15.120 --> 0:42:19.239
<v Speaker 2>That's obviously a lot of time you know, on the

0:42:19.360 --> 0:42:22.520
<v Speaker 2>road and grinding. You know, it's it's okay to give

0:42:22.560 --> 0:42:24.960
<v Speaker 2>yourself a break. And I think that's one thing that's

0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 2>helped me, you know, really stay kind of injury freeze.

0:42:28.640 --> 0:42:32.799
<v Speaker 2>I've never I've never felt like that I wasn't able

0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:34.600
<v Speaker 2>to take a few days off if I felt like

0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:35.160
<v Speaker 2>I needed it.

0:42:35.680 --> 0:42:39.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that's one of the things like a

0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:42.919
<v Speaker 3>young pro you get down to Florida or wherever you're going,

0:42:42.960 --> 0:42:44.759
<v Speaker 3>and you feel like, oh, this is my job, so

0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:47.479
<v Speaker 3>you got to do like ten hour days every day

0:42:48.120 --> 0:42:49.919
<v Speaker 3>or else somebody is going to pass you by.

0:42:50.719 --> 0:42:53.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then by the time into the tournament, you said,

0:42:53.360 --> 0:42:55.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm tired. All you want to do is you know, recover.

0:42:56.120 --> 0:42:59.719
<v Speaker 2>But it's so there's definitely a balance, and you know,

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:03.239
<v Speaker 2>maybe it takes some guys, you know, maybe it takes

0:43:03.239 --> 0:43:05.160
<v Speaker 2>them having kids to kind of figure out that, hey,

0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:08.000
<v Speaker 2>it's not I don't have to be out there all

0:43:08.320 --> 0:43:09.440
<v Speaker 2>the times.

0:43:11.000 --> 0:43:13.840
<v Speaker 4>So, uh, do you want to do some overrated underrated?

0:43:15.000 --> 0:43:15.320
<v Speaker 1>Sure?

0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:17.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's the Friday Eggs staple.

0:43:17.880 --> 0:43:19.359
<v Speaker 1>So okay, I love it.

0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:21.759
<v Speaker 4>So you just pick one one or the other.

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:32.040
<v Speaker 6>Here, track Man, I'm not allowed to say anything. Yeah,

0:43:32.080 --> 0:43:34.040
<v Speaker 6>you can say, you can it's underrated.

0:43:34.120 --> 0:43:37.080
<v Speaker 2>I started, Yeah, I think it's underrated. I started using one.

0:43:37.120 --> 0:43:38.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't have one, like, but I think I'm the

0:43:38.880 --> 0:43:41.360
<v Speaker 2>only guy that doesn't have one anymore. But you know,

0:43:41.440 --> 0:43:44.919
<v Speaker 2>my instructors have one, and I love it. I don't

0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:47.840
<v Speaker 2>get lost in the numbers. But I think it's I

0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:49.040
<v Speaker 2>think it's revolutionized the.

0:43:49.040 --> 0:43:49.919
<v Speaker 1>Way guys teach.

0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:53.839
<v Speaker 3>Why why is it that everybody carries around track man,

0:43:53.960 --> 0:43:56.040
<v Speaker 3>like it's like it's in its own case.

0:43:56.080 --> 0:43:57.879
<v Speaker 4>It's like it's a bond, you know.

0:43:57.880 --> 0:44:00.720
<v Speaker 2>It's like a it's you know, it's like a lady

0:44:00.760 --> 0:44:03.839
<v Speaker 2>with a Gucci purse. It's like a status symbol. But hell,

0:44:03.880 --> 0:44:05.520
<v Speaker 2>I see you guys on the mini tours. You know,

0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:09.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you know, I need to pay twenty grand

0:44:09.800 --> 0:44:10.719
<v Speaker 2>for a track man.

0:44:11.640 --> 0:44:15.000
<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't understand why you can't just carry it

0:44:15.040 --> 0:44:18.760
<v Speaker 3>within like a bigger bag. Everybody's got to carry it around.

0:44:19.560 --> 0:44:22.279
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's like it's like the designer purse and you

0:44:22.320 --> 0:44:23.399
<v Speaker 1>gotta show it off. You know.

0:44:24.800 --> 0:44:27.960
<v Speaker 3>It just looks so silly because it is so small,

0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:30.920
<v Speaker 3>and it's like you're carrying this big tour bag. Like

0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:32.840
<v Speaker 3>you can't put that just into the bag.

0:44:33.960 --> 0:44:37.040
<v Speaker 2>I guess, yeah, just put it in a nondescript backpack

0:44:37.160 --> 0:44:38.520
<v Speaker 2>or something exactly.

0:44:39.160 --> 0:44:44.200
<v Speaker 3>So, uh, you you're a obviously we aren't going to

0:44:44.239 --> 0:44:47.240
<v Speaker 3>ask you about what a Burger. That's like your your spot.

0:44:47.400 --> 0:44:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Huh yeah, yeah, that's a spot.

0:44:50.600 --> 0:44:54.080
<v Speaker 3>Has have you ever had contract negotiations with what Aburger?

0:44:55.800 --> 0:44:55.880
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:44:56.120 --> 0:44:59.840
<v Speaker 2>I've been trying, honestly, but I don't I think that

0:45:00.920 --> 0:45:04.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they sponsored like individuals. But I'm a

0:45:04.160 --> 0:45:07.200
<v Speaker 2>huge I'm a huge water Burger fan. I'm really a

0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:10.200
<v Speaker 2>fan of their breakfast. I mean, I love their burgers,

0:45:10.200 --> 0:45:13.120
<v Speaker 2>but I don't eat a lot of I prefer to

0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:14.080
<v Speaker 2>make my own burgers.

0:45:14.120 --> 0:45:16.160
<v Speaker 1>But I love their breakfast because, you.

0:45:16.120 --> 0:45:18.279
<v Speaker 2>Know, let's face it, when you got a you know,

0:45:18.480 --> 0:45:20.759
<v Speaker 2>it's seven o'clock tea time, I'm not gonna get up

0:45:20.800 --> 0:45:22.640
<v Speaker 2>make my own breakfast. I'm just gonna hit the water

0:45:22.680 --> 0:45:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Burger for a Bob.

0:45:23.840 --> 0:45:26.560
<v Speaker 3>You know, you come on, So that's that's what you

0:45:26.600 --> 0:45:29.080
<v Speaker 3>gotta get, Bob. I'm gonna go down. I spent some

0:45:29.160 --> 0:45:32.880
<v Speaker 3>time in Texas, but I only got Boiderberger a couple times.

0:45:32.960 --> 0:45:34.359
<v Speaker 4>But I'm gonna be get the you.

0:45:34.320 --> 0:45:36.239
<v Speaker 2>Know, the breakfast on a bum. I mean, it's just

0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:39.879
<v Speaker 2>hard to be number twenty one. Next time you're down.

0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:47.200
<v Speaker 3>Try so overrated, underrated, in and out.

0:45:46.520 --> 0:45:49.399
<v Speaker 1>In and out. Uh, it's I love it. I think

0:45:49.400 --> 0:45:49.839
<v Speaker 1>it's great.

0:45:50.719 --> 0:45:55.640
<v Speaker 2>Uh so i'd say, un well, you know, people were

0:45:55.640 --> 0:45:58.000
<v Speaker 2>fanatics about it, and then people think it's way overrated,

0:45:58.000 --> 0:46:01.280
<v Speaker 2>but I think it's I would say it's I think.

0:46:01.160 --> 0:46:02.400
<v Speaker 1>It's very good, all right.

0:46:02.560 --> 0:46:07.080
<v Speaker 3>Well like the slide with the properly rated it's okay,

0:46:08.320 --> 0:46:15.240
<v Speaker 3>steak and shake overrated, Yeah, I'm in on that too.

0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:18.879
<v Speaker 3>And then uh, what's what's an under what's like you're

0:46:19.280 --> 0:46:23.840
<v Speaker 3>under the radar purchase outside of the breakfast at water Burger,

0:46:25.719 --> 0:46:29.480
<v Speaker 3>I get the number five, the bacon cheeseburger, all right,

0:46:30.320 --> 0:46:33.720
<v Speaker 3>and then uh, then we'll say last one. We're gonna

0:46:33.719 --> 0:46:41.920
<v Speaker 3>say Springfield, Illinois, the Land of Lincoln.

0:46:44.200 --> 0:46:47.560
<v Speaker 2>Well, I would definitely say Bloomington, Illinois overrated. I don't

0:46:47.560 --> 0:46:50.920
<v Speaker 2>know about Springfield. It was I don't know what the

0:46:51.080 --> 0:46:52.680
<v Speaker 2>what is the rating on Springfield?

0:46:52.760 --> 0:46:54.600
<v Speaker 1>So I can overrat it or underrated.

0:46:54.840 --> 0:46:58.239
<v Speaker 3>Well, if if you think if you think Bloomington's overrated,

0:46:58.400 --> 0:47:08.040
<v Speaker 3>Springfield definitely over Okay, you know, I know it's a

0:47:08.520 --> 0:47:11.640
<v Speaker 3>that's a We got our state aum in Bloomington this year,

0:47:11.760 --> 0:47:14.000
<v Speaker 3>and I don't think I'm gonna make the trip down there.

0:47:14.120 --> 0:47:14.600
<v Speaker 3>It's just.

0:47:16.440 --> 0:47:18.239
<v Speaker 1>It's just a bunch of cornfield. Man.

0:47:18.520 --> 0:47:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was driving there from I guess he did

0:47:20.960 --> 0:47:23.480
<v Speaker 2>a qualifier last year in Saint Louis, so I was

0:47:23.560 --> 0:47:26.799
<v Speaker 2>driving from Saint Louis. I'm like, man, this is this

0:47:27.000 --> 0:47:29.520
<v Speaker 2>is just one cornfield after another up here.

0:47:30.200 --> 0:47:30.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:34.000
<v Speaker 3>I went to school in Champagne for college, and yeah,

0:47:34.000 --> 0:47:35.560
<v Speaker 3>it's just saw cornfield.

0:47:35.960 --> 0:47:38.560
<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a cornfield and soybeans. Huh.

0:47:38.640 --> 0:47:41.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a it's a tough spot in in the summer.

0:47:41.120 --> 0:47:42.600
<v Speaker 3>It gets pretty hot down there.

0:47:44.520 --> 0:47:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Coming off those crops.

0:47:47.160 --> 0:47:50.360
<v Speaker 3>What what is the hottest place that you've you've played,

0:47:50.719 --> 0:47:58.359
<v Speaker 3>like Malaysia, no doubt, it's always hot there.

0:47:58.960 --> 0:48:03.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh I don't yeah, I was still obviously that people

0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:05.439
<v Speaker 2>that I don't know if he loves it, but there's

0:48:05.480 --> 0:48:07.279
<v Speaker 2>people that live there. There's a lot of people who

0:48:07.280 --> 0:48:10.000
<v Speaker 2>live there. Man, you can have.

0:48:09.920 --> 0:48:14.680
<v Speaker 3>It, all right, Well, we'll let you go and get

0:48:14.840 --> 0:48:20.680
<v Speaker 3>to your workout. Everybody can followed on Twitter. Uh it's

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<v Speaker 3>at ed Lore and then uh, oh sh see at

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<v Speaker 3>Biggie and big D. You know, I'm just gonna cut

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<v Speaker 3>that out because you know, get the power to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>And then uh, of course follow the ed Lawd tracker

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<v Speaker 3>at ed lore tracker that it'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Be hot here in a couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a lot of food updates, does it?

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<v Speaker 3>Does the tracker ever come on site?

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<v Speaker 2>He's been on site a couple of times, but he

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<v Speaker 2>has he has an uncanny way of finding people that

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<v Speaker 2>are there to kind of help him out.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Well, good luck and we'll be rooting for you,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, Andy.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it, man, It's fun to be on with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmmm

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<v Speaker 6>Mmm