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Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to another edition of the

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Speaker 3: Friday Egg Podcast. Today, I'm joined by web dot Com

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Speaker 3: tour player Ed Lore. Ed played college golf at Oklahoma State,

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Speaker 3: where he was an All American and Walker cupper, and

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Speaker 3: since turning pro, has spent time on almost every tour

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Speaker 4: Ed, welcome on.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to Andy. It's good to be with you this morning.

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Speaker 2: And yes, you gave me an app description of pretty

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Speaker 2: much played about anywhere you could ever come up with.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this year your your full time on the web.

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Speaker 3: You've gotten off to a great start. You had a

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Speaker 3: T second in Panama and T twentieth in Columbia. What

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Speaker 1: That's a good question.

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Speaker 2: I would say the biggest deal, Well, logistics is the

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Speaker 2: And you know, for a god who's played in twenty

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Speaker 3: So of all the twenty nine countries that you've played in,

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Speaker 2: I would say my favorite just from a country place,

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Speaker 2: I think is probably Spain. I've been there a few

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Speaker 2: My least favorite would be India. I just never I

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Speaker 3: That's uh yeah, it's I mean it's crazy how you

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Speaker 3: Difference between playing in Europe versus playing on like the

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Speaker 2: I think that just the depth of players. You know,

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Speaker 3: Do you think that, like something I've wondered for a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of think like I've like half written

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Speaker 3: So with getting back to kind of your experience all

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00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 3: over the world, you know, you hear a lot of

442
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 3: tales of caddies and and in Central and Latin America

443
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 3: and South America and.

444
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 4: You know where what's been the worst.

445
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 3: Caddy that you've had across the world.

446
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 2: I had a guy in Uh. I had a guy

447
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,120
Speaker 2: in uh where was I Brazil a couple of years ago?

448
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 2: During it and did I actually ended up getting rid

449
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 2: of getting rid of him after the practice round. But

450
00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 2: unlike the fifteenth hole in the practice round, he cracked

451
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 2: open a beer, so you know, that kind of told

452
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 2: me that he probably wouldn't be real serious about what

453
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 2: he was doing, so I had to go find another one.

454
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 2: But uh, I think that's the only time I've really

455
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 2: had to fire a guy before the round. But you know,

456
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 2: you never know, I've had some, you know a lot

457
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,959
Speaker 2: of the best guddies. I had for these ladies when

458
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 2: I was playing the Asian Tour just with the pool

459
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 2: card and you know, he didn't speak a wacky English,

460
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 2: but they did exactly what they were supposed to do.

461
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 3: So speaking of you know, you you you made it

462
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 3: really big when you were using the push card on

463
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Speaker 3: the Adams Store.

464
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Speaker 1: You know, and.

465
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Speaker 3: Mutual friend Todd Mitchell is so anti pushcart. Do you

466
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 3: do you think that the push card helps you on

467
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 3: the golf course.

468
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 2: Well, I will have to admit Andie that I was

469
00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 2: like mister anti pushcart as well. I actually I was

470
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 2: playing a uh. I was playing an Adams in Saint

471
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Speaker 2: Louis a.

472
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Speaker 1: Couple of years ago, and I thought I was gonna

473
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: die it was so hot.

474
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 2: So I went to a Dick's Sporting good and bought

475
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 2: a floor model pushcart. And now I don't know, I'm

476
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 2: like now, I just think I'm so dumb for, you know,

477
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 2: going so long without using one. But you know, it

478
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 2: just kind of I'm one of those guys I played

479
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 2: so much golf really just relying on myself. I mean,

480
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 2: I just think yourself reliance. You know, there's a lot

481
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 2: more when you have a pushcart, but you got nobody

482
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 2: to blame but yourself. So but I love them now.

483
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm on team pushcart too. I used to be

484
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 3: a big carrier and I always would carry, but like now,

485
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 3: I think it's so dumb. It's like you play the

486
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 3: sport where you depend on your like shoulders a lot

487
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 3: in the golf swing, Like why would you dumb?

488
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: Yeah?

489
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 5: Well, and I know these college tournaments where we used

490
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 5: to carry thirty day and man, I mean obviously we

491
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 5: were twenty then, but still I can't believe how much

492
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 5: fresh dri I feel now after just choosing a little pusher.

493
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Todd Telman was complaining that you have to

494
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 3: walk around a green the one time he used it,

495
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 3: and I was like, let's.

496
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: Let's be honest.

497
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 2: Mitchell doesn't play any tournaments where he doesn't have a

498
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 2: caddy anyway, so what does he really know.

499
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Everybody's like, you should take a caddy.

500
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 3: It's like, I'm not paying for a caddy. I I'm

501
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 3: I'm a I'm an internet blogger exactly, So it's uh, yeah,

502
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 3: the the push card is I think, and I think

503
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Speaker 3: I've I've heard I think I think it might have

504
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 3: been UNLV's coach says that they statistically proved that save

505
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 3: like a shot or a half a shot around.

506
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think actually was Conrad ray Stanford.

507
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, anybody that is trying to play tournament

508
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 3: golf and throwing a bag on their shoulders all the time,

509
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 3: like you, there's there's no way you can't say that

510
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 3: it helps you to have fresher body when you're playing.

511
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 2: I agree, you just got to feel way better. But

512
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, there's no doubt.

513
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 3: So you've got triplets. I imagine that that adds a

514
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 3: little bit of challenge to the playing all over the world.

515
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 3: When you when you had kids that when you found

516
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 3: out it was triplets, was there a was there a

517
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 3: moment where you said, oh shit.

518
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 2: Well, honestly, I mean there's not a day that goes

519
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 2: by that I don't say oh shit.

520
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: But you know, it's funny.

521
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 2: I really played probably some of my best golf right

522
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 2: if they were born, and you know, I think that's

523
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 2: just kind of you know, they kind of added a

524
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 2: real perspective to life of you know, how stupid golf

525
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 2: is compared to you know, being a dad of three

526
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 2: little kids. So you know, they obviously you'll offer that

527
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 2: to me, but you know, there's definitely pressure. I mean,

528
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know if anybody told me how

529
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 2: expensive kids were when I before I had them. A

530
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 2: good lord man, you just can't you can't make enough money.

531
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: It seems like, uh, you know, they're the apple of

532
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 2: my eye. You know, they're kind of the reason I play,

533
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 2: and I just you know, I love them to death.

534
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 3: Really, I think perspective with golf is so important. I

535
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 3: thought about trying to play for a little bit and

536
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 3: then you start, like I started working and then all

537
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 3: of a sudden, I'd go out and play, like they

538
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 3: say a year after and like, I played so much

539
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 3: better because I realized how insignificant little things in golf are.

540
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the first year that I got my

541
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 2: tour card was the end of twenty eleven, and I

542
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 2: was my my twelfth try through Q school, and you know,

543
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 2: my kids were born in September, and you know, it

544
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 2: obviously had something to do with it. I mean I

545
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 2: brought I got to bring my let's see, yeah, I

546
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 2: got to bring my daughter home. You know, they were

547
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 2: kind of in the nick you and then special care

548
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 2: nursery at the hospital. I mean, I brought my daughter

549
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: home after the third round of second stays of Q school.

550
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 2: So you know, if you think that doesn't make me

551
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: more relaxed, and I'm like, well, this is pretty This

552
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 2: is way more awesome than you know, trying to shoot

553
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 2: sixty eight at Craig Ranch tomorrow. I mean, this is

554
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 2: this is obviously way more important. So you know, there's

555
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 2: no doubt in my mind that that that that had

556
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 2: something to do with me, you know, finally getting through

557
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 2: on my twelfth.

558
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 4: Try, getting getting three right, off.

559
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 3: The bat's got to be just like being thrown into

560
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 3: like a being an NFL quarterback and seeing like a

561
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 3: an eight man blitz.

562
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 2: Well, you just, you know, I think at this point

563
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: we're actually lucky that, uh, you know, we didn't have

564
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,959
Speaker 2: one beforehand, and we knew how hard one was. We

565
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 2: just kind of did it with three. You know, all

566
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 2: these people are like, I don't know how you did three.

567
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, that's all we knew, you know, But

568
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: now it's now. I actually prefer it because at least

569
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 2: my kids are all doing the same thing. Now I

570
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 2: think about you know, I mean my parents had four

571
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 2: kids and they were all kind of spaced two or

572
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 2: three years apart. Or you know, all these friends I

573
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 2: know that have the spaced apart of my man, you know,

574
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 2: at least I get to sleep. I don't have a

575
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 2: you know, an age six and you know, a one

576
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 2: year old that still doesn't sleep. So I wouldn't obviously trade.

577
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: It for the world.

578
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess that is true.

579
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 3: You have all the same problems that every year.

580
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

581
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 3: So you've seen the Q school process change. Did you

582
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 3: prefer the you know, ability to get straight to the

583
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 3: tour or do you think this current system is better.

584
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 2: No, I would have preferred the old one, and I

585
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 2: think every player pretty much would have just kind of

586
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 2: gives you an opportunity to you know, I think there

587
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 2: needs to be an opportunity to still get to the

588
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 2: big show. Rather, you know, you're some hot shot kid

589
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 2: that thinks he can go right to the tour, or

590
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 2: some guy that maybe just barely missed his car, to

591
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 2: give him a chance to get it back. You know,

592
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 2: I don't I understand why they did it, you know,

593
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 2: for the sponsorship of the web dot Com tour. So

594
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 2: you know, obviously it comes down to money a lot

595
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 2: of times, which a lot.

596
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: Of the world does.

597
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 2: So I get why they did it, but I don't

598
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 2: necessarily think it's.

599
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: A better deal. It's uh.

600
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 4: I I feel like it.

601
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 3: I like that the the web means more now, but

602
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 3: I do I did like the idea of like everybody's

603
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 3: got a shot to make it.

604
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you talk about trauma. I mean it

605
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 2: was some of the best drama in the world, and

606
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 2: you know, I unfortunately was was the like the last

607
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: guy that really had a Q School meltdown at the

608
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 2: end of uh, you know, twenty twelve to get back

609
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 2: to the tour. Uh, you know, the year before I

610
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: was one of the guys that got my card. So

611
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 2: I've experienced obviously both sides of it. But I mean,

612
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't. I've never really felt pressure like

613
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 2: I have a Q school. I mean, when you're obviously

614
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 2: you know, quote unquote playing for your job, it's you know,

615
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 2: it's a little different animal.

616
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 3: What uh what what was your Q school?

617
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: Uh?

618
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 3: You know, drama and then also the like the triumph,

619
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 3: give give the listeners, both both sides of the coin.

620
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, obviously at eleven I had some triumph because

621
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 2: I got you know, I think I finished whatever T

622
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 2: twentieth or something to get my car. And then you know,

623
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: the next year I had my tour car. Now I

624
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: ended up playing and probably almost as much on the

625
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 2: Web Tour, and I had won on the Web Tour

626
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 2: in Panama all of the year, so I had I

627
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 2: had job security. But I went back to finals and

628
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 2: I was playing really good. I think I started the

629
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 2: last round in third or fourth place and I shot

630
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: seventy seven, including you know, hitting it in the water

631
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 2: on Alcatraz and blah blah blah, and ended up I

632
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 2: think I shot seventy seven or seventy eight maybe and

633
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 2: didn't get my card. So I was like the last

634
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 2: guy that, you know, truly kind of melted down to

635
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 2: missus card. But actually it was fine because the next year,

636
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 2: you know, in thirteen, I had my best year.

637
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: You know, really in pro golf.

638
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 2: Finished I think fourth on the Web Tour, pretty much

639
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 2: had my card locked up by March, so I'm sure

640
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 2: that had something to do with it. And I had

641
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 2: some you know, some innermotivation to kind of, you know,

642
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 2: prove myself right. But it's, uh, it's I definitely have

643
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 2: lived all parts of golf.

644
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 3: There's no doubt from like a personal side, Like I

645
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,479
Speaker 3: the year before I qualified for the mid Am.

646
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 4: Two years ago I didn't.

647
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 3: I didn't play this year because of my wedding, But

648
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,479
Speaker 3: the year before I was like, I was two under

649
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 3: on the seventeenth hole and I made I finished double double,

650
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,919
Speaker 3: and I played in Indianapolis and I had to drive.

651
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 3: I drove home from there and it was like the

652
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 3: worst drive of my life. You know, both both holes

653
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,439
Speaker 3: I've hit in the fairway. Then but then the next year,

654
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,919
Speaker 3: It's so funny how golf works, Like the next year

655
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 3: I'm playing, and I'm just like, I wasn't really playing well.

656
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 3: I was even par but I was just like kind

657
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 3: of scraping around, you know, one of those rounds, and

658
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 3: h I hit a wedge close on like the thirteenth hole,

659
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, everything clicked and I finished.

660
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 3: I burdied that hole, but then I birdied three on

661
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 3: my last four, and like, you just make it in

662
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 3: and it's like, you know, it's not that hard, you know,

663
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 3: but you always make it hard on yourself.

664
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 1: It's just such a dumb game.

665
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 2: And you know, I mean you just hear those stories

666
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 2: all the time about the guy that was in such

667
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 2: good position and fell apart, and the guy that was, you know,

668
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 2: four off the cut line and birdie four of his

669
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 2: last five and then.

670
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: Shot sixty six sixty six and finished eighth.

671
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just such a dumb game, and I

672
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 2: don't know why we all try to figure it out.

673
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 3: You've got a You're one of the rare pros that

674
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 3: has a full time tracker, I mean behind the big cat,

675
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 3: I mean, ed Lord tracker has got to be number

676
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 3: two most followed tracker out there.

677
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: There's no doubt. And then Ed Lord tracker is definitely

678
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 2: way more entertaining. He's the most entertaining tracker on tour.

679
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 2: You know, anything that's based more on your eating habits

680
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 2: than your golf has got to be way more entertainment

681
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 2: for the Twitter world.

682
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 3: No doubt did the tracker come about.

683
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 2: It's you know, I'll be honest with you. I've met

684
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 2: the guy twice, just for a few minutes. I've had

685
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 2: a ton of interactions with him on texting, social media.

686
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 2: It's a left handed guy. I will not divulge his identity.

687
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 2: But and a few years ago when I was on tour,

688
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 2: he said, do you mind if I do this? And

689
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 2: I said, no, man, knock it out. And I really don't.

690
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 2: I really don't provide much information. He you know, he

691
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 2: he somehow he finds it out or comes up with

692
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 2: it on his own. So it's, uh, it's definitely. I mean,

693
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 2: I love the loonies and it's you know, it definitely

694
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 2: provides some.

695
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: Good laughter and humor on the golf course for sure.

696
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 3: So so you you know, the tracker gives us an insight.

697
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 3: Look that you're a you're a big foodie. Where where's

698
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 3: the if you where's the best food outside.

699
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 4: The US that you've been to.

700
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: Outside Yeah, uh.

701
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: Outside, you know it's already go wrong with the Brazilian steakhouse.

702
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 2: You know, if you just need to gorge yourself to death.

703
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 2: I love I found a couple of spots in Columbia

704
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 2: that I just love, So I put that pretty high

705
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 2: up on the loose. You know, as far as in

706
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 2: the states, Lafayette, Louisiana is number one, and you know

707
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 2: it's a long way to number two after that.

708
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 3: That's that's coming up on the schedule here.

709
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's my favorite e end of the year, mainly

710
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 2: because well I've won there, but I've stayed with with

711
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 2: a family for six or seven years that are from there,

712
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: and you know, they obviously know all the spots to

713
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 2: take me. So it's just it's my favorite week of

714
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 2: the year.

715
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 3: So with a webine, like, you got a month layoff,

716
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 3: what do you guys do?

717
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 4: What do you do?

718
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: Like?

719
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 3: What's a downtime look like? Versus you know, the weekend

720
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 3: week out grind?

721
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, I was gone so long. I

722
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 2: was gone thirty four days, so you know most of

723
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 2: mine the last I guess I've been home about ten days.

724
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 2: It's really just being a you know, trying to be

725
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 2: a father and a husband and trying to get back

726
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 2: into that routine. It's a little you know, it's kind

727
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 2: of a shock to the system when you come back,

728
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 2: you know, because you're just been in such a selfish

729
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 2: mode as trying to be a golfer that you know,

730
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 2: you kind of come back and it's all right, we're

731
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 2: gonna get the kids up, get them to school, and

732
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 2: you know, and then kind of get back into the

733
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 2: routine of being a husband.

734
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: So it's, uh, you.

735
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 2: Know, that's kind of what it is for me. Obviously

736
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 2: a lot of guys are different, but uh, and really

737
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 2: we've had some pretty crappy weathers so I haven't even

738
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 2: I've hit balls one time in ten days, which I

739
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 2: really was going to take playing to take all last

740
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 2: week off anyway, but this week I would have liked

741
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 2: to have got some work done.

742
00:38:58,200 --> 00:38:59,760
Speaker 1: But we're you know, we've.

743
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 2: Had like nine inches of rain in the last three days,

744
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 2: so I mean, I mean I've touched the club once since.

745
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: I've been home.

746
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, balance is good.

747
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 3: It's that that's gotta be something that's changed is how

748
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 3: you know, imagine when you turn pro, you spend like

749
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 3: your life gets like kind of encompassed by golf.

750
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: Right, there's no doubt. Yeah, I mean obviously that's what

751
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 2: you're that's all you're trying to do. And I mean

752
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 2: that's all I'm still really trying to do. But now

753
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 2: now instead of going to the golf course, you know,

754
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 2: at nine and dicking around until five, now it's like, okay,

755
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 2: I've got a window. My kids are at school from

756
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 2: you know, eight to three. All right, I gotta drop

757
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 2: them off. I gotta get my workout in, you know.

758
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 2: Then I got four hours and this is what I

759
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 2: gotta get done. So so why it's different, I think

760
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 2: it's actually better because now you can't just you know,

761
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 2: dick around, play eighteen, have lunch, not really not really

762
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 2: have any structure. Now you've got all right, I got

763
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 2: an hour and a half of big balls. Uh you know,

764
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 2: I got an hour of short game practice and I'm

765
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: gonna go get a quick nine him before i gotta

766
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 2: go get the kids.

767
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: So it's.

768
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 2: It's it's different, but I almost think it's better, and

769
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 2: especially for me because I could, you know, I got

770
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 2: some add and so I could just get out there

771
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 2: all day and just be like what the hell did

772
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 2: I just do all day?

773
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 1: So it's I think it's better.

774
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 3: Actually, maybe maybe the next big fad and professional golf

775
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 3: will be have triplets right before you turn pro.

776
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: No no, no, don't. It's just complicates things. But you know,

777
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 2: I think that I think that, you know, for a

778
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 2: lot of the young guys. And obviously, like I said,

779
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 2: I was the same way, you know. And I heard

780
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 2: a podcast with Paul Casey a few months ago and

781
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 2: he was talking about it because he just had a kid,

782
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 2: and he's like, really, I mean, you know, I know

783
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 2: all these eyes like to spend all you know, you

784
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 2: didn't get what you need to get done in four

785
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 2: or five hours. I mean, it's not like you. You know,

786
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 2: I think that some of the way golf's change is

787
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 2: guys are a lot more technically correct on a day

788
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 2: to day basis, so you know, like I don't worry

789
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 2: about taking a week off. I actually embrace it because

790
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 2: I know you need it.

791
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: You know.

792
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 2: Whereas a long time ago, before track Man and and

793
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 2: you know all the great instruction, it was, well you know,

794
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta keep going, so I keep my fields.

795
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 2: Well now it's like, well all right, I'm gonna get

796
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,919
Speaker 2: on track. Man, all right, my swing looks the same. Well,

797
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 2: you know, maybe there's a maybe it allows guys a

798
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 2: little less, you know, to feel like they have to

799
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 2: be out there all day every day.

800
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 3: It's a good point, like I feel like I I

801
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 3: do better the less I hit balls now. And it's

802
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 3: like what David Deval said is like.

803
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 2: There's definitely less expectation. I mean there's no doubt and

804
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 2: you know you need you know, most players that aren't

805
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 2: you know, top ten or fifteen or playing you know,

806
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 2: twenty five twenty eight weeks a year. I mean you

807
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:13,439
Speaker 2: need some time off.

808
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: I mean that's it.

809
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 2: That's obviously a lot of time you know, on the

810
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 2: road and grinding. You know, it's it's okay to give

811
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 2: yourself a break. And I think that's one thing that's

812
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 2: helped me, you know, really stay kind of injury freeze.

813
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 2: I've never I've never felt like that I wasn't able

814
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: to take a few days off if I felt like

815
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 2: I needed it.

816
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's one of the things like a

817
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,919
Speaker 3: young pro you get down to Florida or wherever you're going,

818
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 3: and you feel like, oh, this is my job, so

819
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,479
Speaker 3: you got to do like ten hour days every day

820
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:49,919
Speaker 3: or else somebody is going to pass you by.

821
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then by the time into the tournament, you said,

822
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 2: I'm tired. All you want to do is you know, recover.

823
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 2: But it's so there's definitely a balance, and you know,

824
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 2: maybe it takes some guys, you know, maybe it takes

825
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 2: them having kids to kind of figure out that, hey,

826
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: it's not I don't have to be out there all

827
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 2: the times.

828
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 4: So, uh, do you want to do some overrated underrated?

829
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 1: Sure?

830
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the Friday Eggs staple.

831
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 1: So okay, I love it.

832
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 4: So you just pick one one or the other.

833
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 6: Here, track Man, I'm not allowed to say anything. Yeah,

834
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 6: you can say, you can it's underrated.

835
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 2: I started, Yeah, I think it's underrated. I started using one.

836
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 2: I don't have one, like, but I think I'm the

837
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 2: only guy that doesn't have one anymore. But you know,

838
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,919
Speaker 2: my instructors have one, and I love it. I don't

839
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 2: get lost in the numbers. But I think it's I

840
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 2: think it's revolutionized the.

841
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 1: Way guys teach.

842
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 3: Why why is it that everybody carries around track man,

843
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 3: like it's like it's in its own case.

844
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 4: It's like it's a bond, you know.

845
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,720
Speaker 2: It's like a it's you know, it's like a lady

846
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 2: with a Gucci purse. It's like a status symbol. But hell,

847
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 2: I see you guys on the mini tours. You know,

848
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, I need to pay twenty grand

849
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 2: for a track man.

850
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 3: Well, I don't understand why you can't just carry it

851
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,760
Speaker 3: within like a bigger bag. Everybody's got to carry it around.

852
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: Well, it's like it's like the designer purse and you

853
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 1: gotta show it off. You know.

854
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 3: It just looks so silly because it is so small,

855
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 3: and it's like you're carrying this big tour bag. Like

856
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 3: you can't put that just into the bag.

857
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, just put it in a nondescript backpack

858
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 2: or something exactly.

859
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 3: So, uh, you you're a obviously we aren't going to

860
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,240
Speaker 3: ask you about what a Burger. That's like your your spot.

861
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 1: Huh yeah, yeah, that's a spot.

862
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 3: Has have you ever had contract negotiations with what Aburger?

863
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: No?

864
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 2: I've been trying, honestly, but I don't I think that

865
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 2: I don't think they sponsored like individuals. But I'm a

866
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 2: huge I'm a huge water Burger fan. I'm really a

867
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 2: fan of their breakfast. I mean, I love their burgers,

868
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 2: but I don't eat a lot of I prefer to

869
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: make my own burgers.

870
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: But I love their breakfast because, you.

871
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 2: Know, let's face it, when you got a you know,

872
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 2: it's seven o'clock tea time, I'm not gonna get up

873
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 2: make my own breakfast. I'm just gonna hit the water

874
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: Burger for a Bob.

875
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 3: You know, you come on, So that's that's what you

876
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 3: gotta get, Bob. I'm gonna go down. I spent some

877
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 3: time in Texas, but I only got Boiderberger a couple times.

878
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna be get the you.

879
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 2: Know, the breakfast on a bum. I mean, it's just

880
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 2: hard to be number twenty one. Next time you're down.

881
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 3: Try so overrated, underrated, in and out.

882
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 1: In and out. Uh, it's I love it. I think

883
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: it's great.

884
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 2: Uh so i'd say, un well, you know, people were

885
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 2: fanatics about it, and then people think it's way overrated,

886
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 2: but I think it's I would say it's I think.

887
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: It's very good, all right.

888
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 3: Well like the slide with the properly rated it's okay,

889
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 3: steak and shake overrated, Yeah, I'm in on that too.

890
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 3: And then uh, what's what's an under what's like you're

891
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 3: under the radar purchase outside of the breakfast at water Burger,

892
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 3: I get the number five, the bacon cheeseburger, all right,

893
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,720
Speaker 3: and then uh, then we'll say last one. We're gonna

894
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 3: say Springfield, Illinois, the Land of Lincoln.

895
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 2: Well, I would definitely say Bloomington, Illinois overrated. I don't

896
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 2: know about Springfield. It was I don't know what the

897
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 2: what is the rating on Springfield?

898
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: So I can overrat it or underrated.

899
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 3: Well, if if you think if you think Bloomington's overrated,

900
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 3: Springfield definitely over Okay, you know, I know it's a

901
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 3: that's a We got our state aum in Bloomington this year,

902
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 3: and I don't think I'm gonna make the trip down there.

903
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 3: It's just.

904
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: It's just a bunch of cornfield. Man.

905
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was driving there from I guess he did

906
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 2: a qualifier last year in Saint Louis, so I was

907
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 2: driving from Saint Louis. I'm like, man, this is this

908
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 2: is just one cornfield after another up here.

909
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:30,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

910
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 3: I went to school in Champagne for college, and yeah,

911
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 3: it's just saw cornfield.

912
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: It's a it's a cornfield and soybeans. Huh.

913
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a it's a tough spot in in the summer.

914
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 3: It gets pretty hot down there.

915
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: Coming off those crops.

916
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 3: What what is the hottest place that you've you've played,

917
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 3: like Malaysia, no doubt, it's always hot there.

918
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 2: Oh I don't yeah, I was still obviously that people

919
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 2: that I don't know if he loves it, but there's

920
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 2: people that live there. There's a lot of people who

921
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 2: live there. Man, you can have.

922
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 3: It, all right, Well, we'll let you go and get

923
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 3: to your workout. Everybody can followed on Twitter. Uh it's

924
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 3: at ed Lore and then uh, oh sh see at

925
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 3: Biggie and big D. You know, I'm just gonna cut

926
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 3: that out because you know, get the power to do that.

927
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 3: And then uh, of course follow the ed Lawd tracker

928
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 3: at ed lore tracker that it'll.

929
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 2: Be hot here in a couple of weeks.

930
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of food updates, does it?

931
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 3: Does the tracker ever come on site?

932
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,760
Speaker 2: He's been on site a couple of times, but he

933
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 2: has he has an uncanny way of finding people that

934
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: are there to kind of help him out.

935
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 3: All right, Well, good luck and we'll be rooting for you,

936
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 3: all right, Andy.

937
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, man, It's fun to be on with it.

938
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm

939
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 6: Mmm