WEBVTT - The Top Tech News Stories of 2012: Part 2

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<v Speaker 1>Get in touch with technology with tech Stuff from how Stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>What'stop Coming? Hello again everyone, and welcome to tech Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Chris Polette and I am an editor

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<v Speaker 1>of how Stuff works dot Com. Sitting across from me

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<v Speaker 1>as usual because we're actually splitting this episode into two parts,

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<v Speaker 1>is senior writer Jonathan Strickland. Didn't we do this already? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we did, but it turned out to be longer than

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<v Speaker 1>we thought. Yeah, the episode about the Year in Tech

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<v Speaker 1>for two thousand and twelve ended up Chris and I

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<v Speaker 1>ended up being chatty Cathy's and uh, I think according

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<v Speaker 1>to Tyler, the full length episode was about an hour

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<v Speaker 1>and seventeen or eighteen minutes long, which we thought was excessive,

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<v Speaker 1>so we decided to split that into two. So now,

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<v Speaker 1>without further ado, we bring you part two of the

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<v Speaker 1>year that was the Tech of two thousand and twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened other executive shakeups? We just did a recent

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<v Speaker 1>episode about two big names leaving big companies. Uh, we

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<v Speaker 1>had four Stall leaving Apple. He was the fellow who

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<v Speaker 1>was Scott four Stall, who was kind of in charge

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<v Speaker 1>of iOS and and there were several things that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of led up to his Uh, departure from Apple, he

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<v Speaker 1>went into an advisory position, but then would eventually leave

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<v Speaker 1>the company. I don't think he's actually left yet, still

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<v Speaker 1>in an advisory capacity, but UM. One of the many

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<v Speaker 1>problems with his tenure was the Maps app for iOS.

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<v Speaker 1>When I the iPhone five was announced in Io S

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<v Speaker 1>six was coming out, the Maps feature was heavily promoted

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<v Speaker 1>in those releases because it was something that was It

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<v Speaker 1>was the native turn by turn map application for the iPhone,

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<v Speaker 1>and it replaced other apps that had been supported on

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<v Speaker 1>the iPhone previously and now we're no longer supported. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a problem. It was not always accurate. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people had real problems with the Maps app. I

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<v Speaker 1>I only used it a couple of times. My wife

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<v Speaker 1>has an iPhone and so we used it on her

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<v Speaker 1>device and I used at the same time, I had

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<v Speaker 1>Google Maps running on my Android phone, and while it

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<v Speaker 1>gave us different routes to get to the same destination,

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<v Speaker 1>in both cases the the route would have gotten us there,

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<v Speaker 1>so there wasn't any problem along those lines. We weren't

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<v Speaker 1>put on any phantom roads or sent in wild googe

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<v Speaker 1>ghost chases or anything, but there were other reports of

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<v Speaker 1>some pretty notable problems with the maps app, like finding

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<v Speaker 1>out that the bridge that you need to cross is

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<v Speaker 1>actually four miles further up the street than where you

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<v Speaker 1>were told to turn, which could and in disaster for

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<v Speaker 1>someone who is slavishly devoted to following the directions that

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<v Speaker 1>their phone is giving. UM. I'm not saying that they're

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<v Speaker 1>out there. I'm just saying that if they are out there,

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<v Speaker 1>they're probably buying a new car now because their old

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<v Speaker 1>one has been washed out the sea. Yeah. The other

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<v Speaker 1>the other guy who who made big headlines in leaving

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<v Speaker 1>UM apparently at some kind of a mutual agreement that

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<v Speaker 1>he was going to be leaving, at least according to

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<v Speaker 1>to the sources within the company and to him that

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<v Speaker 1>that would be Steve Sinowski, who was instrumental at Microsoft

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<v Speaker 1>and getting the brand new release out the door, Windows

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<v Speaker 1>eight UM. He uh was took the stage and introduced

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<v Speaker 1>the Microsoft Surface tablet as well as Windows eight UH

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<v Speaker 1>two to you know, decent response, UM and then UH.

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<v Speaker 1>Within a couple of months there was the news report

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<v Speaker 1>that he was leaving Microsoft effective immediately, which the effect

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<v Speaker 1>to immediately part suggested that perhaps it was a corporate

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<v Speaker 1>decision to replace him, but The official word seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be that it was a decision reached by both parties. Sonovski,

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<v Speaker 1>for his part, says that whenever you finish a project,

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<v Speaker 1>it's natural to go ahead and think about what else

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<v Speaker 1>would you like to do? Um, I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I don't know. The departure to me seems

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<v Speaker 1>pretty sudden for it to be mutual. If it were mutual,

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<v Speaker 1>I would imagine there would have been more of a

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<v Speaker 1>gradual transition plan, something that wasn't so sudden, because when

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<v Speaker 1>it's that fast, it sends a very sharp message to shareholders. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have a transition plan and you say, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>now that we've got Windows eight out, Sinofsky's decided he

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<v Speaker 1>wants to pursue something else. Now we've got this transition

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<v Speaker 1>plan in place, then you could ease sharehold is into

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<v Speaker 1>that and it won't be quite as big as shock.

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<v Speaker 1>That's see to me, that's the real giveaway to me. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I could be completely misinterpreting that, but that's how my

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<v Speaker 1>brain works, y'all. Well, another big Microsoft news they released

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<v Speaker 1>a tablet, the Surface Tablet. Yes now now Windows eight

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<v Speaker 1>UM runs on tablets and computers and it's got a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of different interfaces, one of which is designed to

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<v Speaker 1>look very much like UM its Windows Foam software. UM

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<v Speaker 1>the Surface uses a variant on this, the Windows RT,

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<v Speaker 1>and it looks very very similar to that UM surface.

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<v Speaker 1>UH makes news for a couple of reasons. Not only

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<v Speaker 1>is it a brand new tablet from Windows UH for

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<v Speaker 1>Microsoft and uses this new version of Windows, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's Microsoft taking UH its hand at manufacturing hardware as

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<v Speaker 1>well as software, not just for the Xbox gaming system,

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<v Speaker 1>but for a tablet computer too, right, which which caused

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of of of kerfuffle. I mean, you had

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<v Speaker 1>people asking does this mean that Microsoft is going into

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<v Speaker 1>direct competition with its partners? Because Microsoft is really known

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<v Speaker 1>for providing the operating system and then other companies provide

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<v Speaker 1>the hardware. And that's that's traditionally how they've done their

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<v Speaker 1>work with computer systems. That you know, they they provide

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<v Speaker 1>the operating system, but you buy your computer from some

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<v Speaker 1>other company. For Microsoft to get into the hardware business

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<v Speaker 1>with tablets, that sends the message of well, now they're

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<v Speaker 1>in the business of actually making the devices as well

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<v Speaker 1>as the operating systems, which puts them more in a

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<v Speaker 1>camp similar to Apples, although Microsoft still license its operating

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<v Speaker 1>system out to everyone else, so that's different from Apple. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>Apple is very much a closed system. Uh, and Microsoft

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<v Speaker 1>kind of straddling the line here. Microsoft or its part

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<v Speaker 1>was essentially saying that the tablet was more to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a consumer device and they do plan on

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<v Speaker 1>selling it to consumers, but that it was also more

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<v Speaker 1>to show the capabilities of Windows eight so so as

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<v Speaker 1>to get more hardware developers interested in creating devices specifically

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<v Speaker 1>with the Windows eight operates system in mind. UM. It

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<v Speaker 1>will be interesting to see how this plays out. I

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<v Speaker 1>know that I was reading articles that suggests that surface

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<v Speaker 1>sales have not lived up to expectations, but without having

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<v Speaker 1>gone into further detail, I honestly can't speak more to that.

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<v Speaker 1>It could very well be that it was a misleading headline.

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<v Speaker 1>Often when you read these headlines, they say one thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and then when you dive into the data, you realize

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<v Speaker 1>that this might not be uh accurate, accurate, an accurate

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<v Speaker 1>description of what's actually going on. I have seen similar

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<v Speaker 1>reports for both Windows eight and for the surface UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And it may be too that what is success for

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<v Speaker 1>a smaller company isn't success for company to size. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>and with the clout of a Microsoft so and plus

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<v Speaker 1>I point, um, I think part of the Windows eight

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<v Speaker 1>thing is original equipment manufacturers. Um haven't the computer sales

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<v Speaker 1>of sales and computers have been off a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>anyway this year, um, so I think that may have

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<v Speaker 1>a part to play in. A Plus, we have the

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<v Speaker 1>holiday season uh rapidly approaching as we are, we're sort

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<v Speaker 1>of in the middle of it, but we're coming to

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<v Speaker 1>the time when people are buying new stuff for a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people. And then by the time the airs

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<v Speaker 1>will be over exactly so um, there will probably be

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<v Speaker 1>new headlines generated after that. And also keeping we have

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<v Speaker 1>to keep in mind Windows eight is such a dramatic

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<v Speaker 1>departure from the previous versions of Windows that it could

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<v Speaker 1>be causing some people to hesitate because it is. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at it looks so different from the

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<v Speaker 1>previous versions of Windows that it can it can intimidate

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<v Speaker 1>some people, you know. There there is a learning curve

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<v Speaker 1>to picking up an operating system, particularly one that, at

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<v Speaker 1>least upon first glance, is so dramatically different from the

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<v Speaker 1>ones that you're used to. So I'm sure that's playing

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<v Speaker 1>a role as well. Uh, if people are in general

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<v Speaker 1>having positive experiences with Windows eight, I would imagine that

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<v Speaker 1>that would that would even out pretty quickly. Well, Plus

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<v Speaker 1>the the the recession is still fading and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>moving as rapidly as as a lot of people would like.

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<v Speaker 1>And so people who are happy with their Windows XP,

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<v Speaker 1>Windows Vista, and Windows seven computers are probably not upgrading

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<v Speaker 1>um just because they want to as quickly as they

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<v Speaker 1>might have otherwise. Now, of course, Microsoft was not the

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<v Speaker 1>only company to release a tablet this year. The iPad

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<v Speaker 1>many came out from from Apple. Um still confuses me, Chris, seriously,

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<v Speaker 1>answer me. Why would Apple release a smaller verse another

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<v Speaker 1>iPad that's priced in such a way that it ends

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<v Speaker 1>up competing with the iPod Touch, which in my mind

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<v Speaker 1>really already is a smaller version of the iPad. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gotten very confusing this year as Samsung has come

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<v Speaker 1>out with the second version of its Note and Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>can you answer me a question, why would you create

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<v Speaker 1>on a phone the size of a small tablet and

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<v Speaker 1>then call it a fablet because that's just wrong? And

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<v Speaker 1>then Google came out with the Nexus ten, which is

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<v Speaker 1>now competing with a segment of the tablet market. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it was avoiding by creating the next to seven. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I own a next to seven, um, which, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I like. I got the Next to seven early. I

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<v Speaker 1>ordered it as soon as it became available, and I

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<v Speaker 1>got it within a week, And um, it's nice tablet.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it, and I don't use it as frequently

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<v Speaker 1>as I'm sure some people use their tablets, which I

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<v Speaker 1>think proves my my the suspicion I had, which is

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<v Speaker 1>that tablet is just a form factor that's not really

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<v Speaker 1>for me, because even though I love the operating system

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<v Speaker 1>and I do enjoy using the tablet, I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>pick it up that frequently. Um. But yeah, the NEXTUS

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<v Speaker 1>ten is now. Well, it is interesting because now Google's

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<v Speaker 1>competing against the iPad space and apples competing against the

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<v Speaker 1>seven inch tablet space, which is something that Steve Jobs

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<v Speaker 1>had said he wasn't interested in doing ever that he

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<v Speaker 1>you know, uh, he was focused mainly on iPad and

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<v Speaker 1>iPod Touch was kind of like that that was viewed

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<v Speaker 1>more as an iPhone without the phone, and the iPad

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<v Speaker 1>was a tablet, and that there wasn't any interest to

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<v Speaker 1>get into that seven inch tablet market. Um, obviously things change,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, sometimes things change. Steve Jobs may very

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<v Speaker 1>well have been fully behind the iPad many before is

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<v Speaker 1>passing because usually these these products have been in development

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<v Speaker 1>for a couple of years before they hit the market,

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<v Speaker 1>And it may very well be that he had changed

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<v Speaker 1>his mind but then didn't want to tip the cards

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<v Speaker 1>when he said like, no, we're not interested in that

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<v Speaker 1>market and cannibalized sales of existing iPads. It's still confuses me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the pricing that confuses me. It's because, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the iPod Touch goes up higher than the lowest end

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<v Speaker 1>of the iPad many, So why would you buy a

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<v Speaker 1>high end iPod Touch when you could get a low

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<v Speaker 1>end iPad Man, I just don't get it. And then

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<v Speaker 1>there was the iPhone five. I mean, if only someone

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<v Speaker 1>could explain it to me, I know, I'm not a

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<v Speaker 1>finance guy, and a new version of the iPod tuch,

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean, who would Okay, I'm done. Um. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>There were quite a few new products from from Apple,

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<v Speaker 1>many of which were in the iPad line. They had

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<v Speaker 1>a new MacBook design that really blew a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people away. I read one report that essentially said they

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<v Speaker 1>considered the MacBook, the new redesigned MacBook to be the

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<v Speaker 1>best laptop computer on the market today, just all around

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<v Speaker 1>the best laptop. That's that's not those aren't my words. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't own a MacBook I. The only Mac I

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<v Speaker 1>have as an iMac. So they released a new iMac

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<v Speaker 1>this year that's very very thin. But um in in

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<v Speaker 1>tacking off the Mac and Apple faithful news. Um, they

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<v Speaker 1>came out with the I've had three and then only

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<v Speaker 1>a few months later it came out with the actually

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<v Speaker 1>that was the new iPad. The new new iPad came

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<v Speaker 1>out only months later with a completely redesigned connector, forcing

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<v Speaker 1>people to with with equipment that used the old style

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<v Speaker 1>connector and wanted one of these new devices. And this

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<v Speaker 1>includes the iPhone five and the newest um iPod devices

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<v Speaker 1>that use the new lightning connector, which is a smaller

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<v Speaker 1>connector than the old devices used to buy adapters or

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<v Speaker 1>that would make them work with their old equipment. We're

0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:07.400
<v Speaker 1>talking alarm clocks, speaker system and some of those docking stations.

0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:10.120
<v Speaker 1>You can't really use an adapter on anyway. You you're

0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:14.440
<v Speaker 1>essentially saying, well, unless I just use older equipment like

0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:16.840
<v Speaker 1>in other words, I don't trade in my old iPod,

0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:19.600
<v Speaker 1>I just keep it and just it will permanently be

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<v Speaker 1>attached to this dock from here on out. Uh, that's

0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:24.800
<v Speaker 1>pretty much what you would be stuck with. But on

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<v Speaker 1>the on the flip side, the nice thing about the

0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:29.560
<v Speaker 1>lightning connector was that you can plug it in either way. Like,

0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:32.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's no wrong way to plug it in

0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:34.760
<v Speaker 1>to the dock, so you don't have to worry about, oh,

0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:37.560
<v Speaker 1>is this face up? Is it face down? Am I

0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:39.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna be am? I gonna break this by trying to

0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:41.720
<v Speaker 1>plug it in this way? You don't have to worry

0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:44.720
<v Speaker 1>about that anymore, which is kind of nice. But yeah, um,

0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:47.880
<v Speaker 1>it was kind of a shock to iPad owners who

0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:50.280
<v Speaker 1>had bought the new iPod pad when it came out

0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:52.520
<v Speaker 1>in the early part of two thousand twelve, with just

0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:55.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, like six or seven months later, a new

0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:59.360
<v Speaker 1>new ip iPad came out and that was I heard

0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:02.280
<v Speaker 1>more than a a little grumbling about that. Not But

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, come on, you're not forced to buy

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<v Speaker 1>these things. That's true. I can I can understand if

0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:12.200
<v Speaker 1>you were, you know, if somehow you had this compulsion

0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:14.880
<v Speaker 1>where you had to buy every single Apple product as

0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:18.280
<v Speaker 1>soon as it came out. But really, get some therapy.

0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, no one is making you buy

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<v Speaker 1>these things, so I don't know they're all I go

0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:28.200
<v Speaker 1>back and forth on this one. There were also a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people angry at Apple this year because because

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<v Speaker 1>they were found um um for in the legal system

0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:40.280
<v Speaker 1>against Samsung depending on where you are exactly, because because

0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:43.960
<v Speaker 1>in other countries they found for Samsung, um yes, and

0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:47.840
<v Speaker 1>this these were were patent lawsuits. Many people were angry

0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:52.760
<v Speaker 1>at well actually either or both Apple and Samsung for

0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:57.920
<v Speaker 1>fighting these uh what seemed to be interminable patent lawsuits

0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:03.280
<v Speaker 1>over what infringed on who's patent um But this this

0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:06.280
<v Speaker 1>is an ages old practice, this predates the computer industry.

0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Um and uh just there was a fresh round of

0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:15.240
<v Speaker 1>this and uh things like uh the the United Kingdom

0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:19.840
<v Speaker 1>forcing Apple to um to claim on its website that

0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:25.800
<v Speaker 1>Apple one against Samsung because Apple's products were clearly cooler,

0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:29.080
<v Speaker 1>and so they had to post on their website that

0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:34.680
<v Speaker 1>obviously they weren't infringed upon because their opponents patents or

0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:38.400
<v Speaker 1>products were not nearly as cool as Apples, and therefore

0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:42.080
<v Speaker 1>Apple was There was a point where Apple was forced

0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:48.720
<v Speaker 1>to essentially apologize. Yes, they apologized because their products were cooler,

0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:51.920
<v Speaker 1>and they they tried to bury this information on the website,

0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:54.080
<v Speaker 1>and the courts got angry with Apple for doing this

0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:56.720
<v Speaker 1>because it was hidden at the very bottom and the

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<v Speaker 1>foot of its page, and they wanted it displayed more prominently. Right. Yeah,

0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:04.199
<v Speaker 1>it was one of those things where yeah, I just

0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:07.880
<v Speaker 1>got pretty ridiculous. But essentially they the courts founded in

0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:10.000
<v Speaker 1>in favor of Samsung in those cases, but in the

0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:13.160
<v Speaker 1>United States it was the other way around. And um,

0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:17.240
<v Speaker 1>it's it's still a very complicated mass. Patent wars often are,

0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:20.560
<v Speaker 1>and uh it's you know, one of those things where

0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:24.760
<v Speaker 1>in one nation you could be found to be in

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<v Speaker 1>the right and in another nation it could be the

0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:33.080
<v Speaker 1>other party. And it's a mess, man. I mean, as

0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:37.200
<v Speaker 1>a consumer, you just hope that what however, it turns

0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:40.240
<v Speaker 1>out that you're still able to get access to the

0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:44.359
<v Speaker 1>products that you like. Um, you know, because one of

0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:46.919
<v Speaker 1>the things that can come out of these patent wars

0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:52.040
<v Speaker 1>is that sometimes courts will support a company's claim and

0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:56.119
<v Speaker 1>and uh prevent the other company from selling uh that

0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:59.800
<v Speaker 1>particular product or line of products within the country. We've

0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:01.960
<v Speaker 1>seen that happened in Europe a few times, particularly in

0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:06.119
<v Speaker 1>places like Germany, where um, these patent wars turned really

0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:09.080
<v Speaker 1>really ugly. So yeah, that was a big story throughout

0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:11.320
<v Speaker 1>two thousand twelve. Was the Apple Samsung battle, which of

0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:14.640
<v Speaker 1>course you know continues to this day, so I don't

0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:18.359
<v Speaker 1>expect that to disappear anytime soon. Oh. Another story that

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<v Speaker 1>happened early, early, early in two thousand twelve that I

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<v Speaker 1>meant to mention when we were talking about the shake

0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:27.920
<v Speaker 1>ups Rim alright, the co founders of Rim, who were

0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:31.959
<v Speaker 1>the co CEO of of Rim, this is the company

0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:36.960
<v Speaker 1>that of course makes BlackBerry phones, they resigned, which was

0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:40.400
<v Speaker 1>not a huge surprise because the company had been in

0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:45.840
<v Speaker 1>some some trouble. Uh. They had been struggling quite a

0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:49.320
<v Speaker 1>bit with their product lines and with the market share

0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:55.760
<v Speaker 1>and just the public's perception of BlackBerry. The playbook tablet

0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:58.879
<v Speaker 1>that came out a couple of years ago did not

0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:02.720
<v Speaker 1>do well. Um, it was just it was just a

0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:05.600
<v Speaker 1>series of setbacks for the company. And so the co

0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:09.240
<v Speaker 1>c e O s resigned in early in early two

0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:11.359
<v Speaker 1>thousand and twelve. So that was a big story too,

0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:14.960
<v Speaker 1>and I meant to mention that earlier. But As far

0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:17.280
<v Speaker 1>as other products that came out, the only other one

0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:20.600
<v Speaker 1>that I jumps out at me is Nintendo's We You Yes,

0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:24.440
<v Speaker 1>because it was the first next generation console to hit

0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:27.480
<v Speaker 1>the market. Depending on who you ask, is it is

0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:32.040
<v Speaker 1>late this generation console. Yeah, it's kind of hard to say.

0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:34.159
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like it's not like we have version numbers

0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:36.919
<v Speaker 1>that we could refer to. But the WU is of

0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:41.480
<v Speaker 1>course the the high definition first HD console that Nintendo

0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:46.120
<v Speaker 1>has has created. Um. And it also has the crazy

0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:51.840
<v Speaker 1>wacky controller with the the display incorporated directly into the controller.

0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:54.800
<v Speaker 1>And um, yeah we did. We did an episode about

0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:56.119
<v Speaker 1>we use, so we don't need to go into it.

0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:59.040
<v Speaker 1>But that was another pretty big story um for for

0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:02.040
<v Speaker 1>hackers this year. And I mean the good style the

0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:06.360
<v Speaker 1>Raspberry Pie was making headlines, which is basically a computer

0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:10.280
<v Speaker 1>on a board. Um and uh, you know, people are

0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:12.480
<v Speaker 1>really the people who came out with and intended it

0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:15.240
<v Speaker 1>to be sort of an educational tool, basically an inexpensive

0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:18.800
<v Speaker 1>computer that people could use to learn how to program

0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:22.760
<v Speaker 1>computers from sort of from the ground up. But other people,

0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:24.960
<v Speaker 1>people who like to take things apart and make new

0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:27.919
<v Speaker 1>things with them. Hackers um also like it because you

0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:29.720
<v Speaker 1>can do all kinds of other You can use them

0:20:29.720 --> 0:20:33.399
<v Speaker 1>as very basic computers to run all kinds of different projects,

0:20:33.840 --> 0:20:37.000
<v Speaker 1>things like robotics. I mean, it's it's kind of this.

0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:40.680
<v Speaker 1>This along with things like the art we know UM products,

0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:44.639
<v Speaker 1>as well as the connect censor, These these sort of

0:20:44.640 --> 0:20:48.440
<v Speaker 1>off the shelf components are making it easier and easier

0:20:48.480 --> 0:20:51.600
<v Speaker 1>for hackers to build really super cool stuff. Now in

0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:54.560
<v Speaker 1>some cases the stuff is is meant for sort of

0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:59.400
<v Speaker 1>an artistic expression. It's not necessarily a practical uh product

0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:02.679
<v Speaker 1>that's coming out of this, but it's it's to me,

0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:06.040
<v Speaker 1>it's just as relevant as any other form of artwork.

0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:09.600
<v Speaker 1>It's a kind of a way to express oneself, to

0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:13.320
<v Speaker 1>use creativity. Uh. There takes a certain level of skill

0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:17.280
<v Speaker 1>and knowledge to be able to to create something that

0:21:17.320 --> 0:21:21.719
<v Speaker 1>works and is aesthetically pleasing in some way. So I

0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:24.760
<v Speaker 1>find these sort of things very exciting, both from the

0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:28.479
<v Speaker 1>educational standpoint and from the artistic standpoint. I really am

0:21:28.520 --> 0:21:30.760
<v Speaker 1>pleased to see more of those things come out. And

0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:34.640
<v Speaker 1>we've heard about other very cheap computer on a chip

0:21:34.760 --> 0:21:38.320
<v Speaker 1>systems since then as well, So that's an interesting trend

0:21:38.320 --> 0:21:40.679
<v Speaker 1>and I hope we see that continue. UM I had

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of big science stories. Oh I did too.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to mention a couple of other UM companies

0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:49.680
<v Speaker 1>really quickly. We don't have to get into it. We've

0:21:49.680 --> 0:21:53.320
<v Speaker 1>done individual episodes about many of these things. One positive

0:21:53.359 --> 0:21:57.680
<v Speaker 1>one was Google making sure that um, uh there's people

0:21:57.720 --> 0:22:01.680
<v Speaker 1>of Kansas City have their daily dose of fiber um Google. Yes,

0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:04.359
<v Speaker 1>they're they're rolling out, still rolling out as of the

0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:07.840
<v Speaker 1>time we're recording this. UM. The Google Fiber high speed

0:22:07.880 --> 0:22:10.399
<v Speaker 1>Internet access. Kansas City was one of those places that

0:22:11.000 --> 0:22:15.720
<v Speaker 1>UH competed to be the first UM fiberhood and basically

0:22:15.760 --> 0:22:18.359
<v Speaker 1>they had people signed up from and say this is

0:22:18.400 --> 0:22:21.480
<v Speaker 1>where I live. And uh, Google chose the places that

0:22:21.560 --> 0:22:24.600
<v Speaker 1>were more highly populated with potential customers as places to

0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:28.760
<v Speaker 1>roll out there high speed internet access offering first for

0:22:28.760 --> 0:22:31.960
<v Speaker 1>for logical reasons. They you know, it's expensive to to

0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:34.560
<v Speaker 1>start this kind of networking from ground the ground up.

0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:38.639
<v Speaker 1>But um, so far it seems to be a success. UM.

0:22:38.760 --> 0:22:43.040
<v Speaker 1>And in more sad tech news, we've had the bankruptcy

0:22:43.080 --> 0:22:47.439
<v Speaker 1>of Kodak earlier again in the year UM and uh

0:22:47.520 --> 0:22:50.480
<v Speaker 1>you know the patents sell off there. UM. You know,

0:22:50.520 --> 0:22:55.520
<v Speaker 1>a once mighty film camera company has just had difficulty finding.

0:22:55.600 --> 0:22:58.960
<v Speaker 1>It's uh, it's niche in the new place of things.

0:22:58.960 --> 0:23:02.520
<v Speaker 1>Even though digital cameras have been among its offerings. UM

0:23:02.920 --> 0:23:07.480
<v Speaker 1>still not gone, but certainly has has fallen somewhat. But yes,

0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:11.840
<v Speaker 1>science stories, we had the Mars rover for example. Yes, yeah,

0:23:11.920 --> 0:23:15.000
<v Speaker 1>the Curiosity Rover was one of those stories that that

0:23:15.160 --> 0:23:19.200
<v Speaker 1>definitely captured attention and imagination. In two thousand and twelve,

0:23:19.480 --> 0:23:23.280
<v Speaker 1>I had the the honor and privilege of being invited

0:23:23.320 --> 0:23:27.960
<v Speaker 1>onto this weekend text coverage live coverage of the touchdown,

0:23:28.040 --> 0:23:30.679
<v Speaker 1>which meant that I was up at twelve thirty in

0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:33.679
<v Speaker 1>the morning here on the East coast. But it was

0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:36.600
<v Speaker 1>a small price to pay to be a part of

0:23:36.640 --> 0:23:41.000
<v Speaker 1>a team that was really talking about the excitement behind

0:23:41.600 --> 0:23:45.439
<v Speaker 1>this sort of exploration. One of the many things that

0:23:45.520 --> 0:23:49.239
<v Speaker 1>was really cool about the Curiosity Rover landing was the

0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:52.800
<v Speaker 1>way they landed the rover through using a skycrane. The

0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:56.920
<v Speaker 1>if you guys don't remember, the rover weighed over a ton,

0:23:57.720 --> 0:24:01.840
<v Speaker 1>and at that size, they could not use traditional methods

0:24:02.000 --> 0:24:05.879
<v Speaker 1>of landing a rover on the surface of Mars without

0:24:06.119 --> 0:24:09.879
<v Speaker 1>risking damage to the rover's equipment because usually what they

0:24:09.880 --> 0:24:13.160
<v Speaker 1>would do is use booster rockets to slow the descent

0:24:13.280 --> 0:24:16.800
<v Speaker 1>and set down the rover, or they would use an

0:24:16.840 --> 0:24:20.960
<v Speaker 1>air bag system and essentially drop the air bag from

0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:24.359
<v Speaker 1>a certain height and then the rover would bounce on

0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:26.639
<v Speaker 1>the surface of Mars and then extract itself from the

0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:29.760
<v Speaker 1>the air bags. They couldn't really do that with the

0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:34.240
<v Speaker 1>size and mass of this particular device. Now they use

0:24:34.320 --> 0:24:37.040
<v Speaker 1>the skycrane, and in the past those methods have not

0:24:37.160 --> 0:24:41.720
<v Speaker 1>always worked as effectively as they scientists had hope. So

0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:45.080
<v Speaker 1>this brand new method using the skycrane was sort of

0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:48.520
<v Speaker 1>a scary proposition. We weren't sure what was going to happen. Yeah,

0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:51.639
<v Speaker 1>and and it meant that a lot of the the

0:24:51.680 --> 0:24:56.199
<v Speaker 1>operation had to be automated because the delay in signals

0:24:56.400 --> 0:25:00.320
<v Speaker 1>from that point in space to Earth Man that there

0:25:00.320 --> 0:25:03.119
<v Speaker 1>would be like a fourteen minute delay between getting a

0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:05.680
<v Speaker 1>signal and being able to send a signal back, So

0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:11.439
<v Speaker 1>you couldn't make minute corrections, uh, any anything close to

0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:13.800
<v Speaker 1>real time. You had to plan for as much as

0:25:13.840 --> 0:25:16.800
<v Speaker 1>you could in advance and hope that the system worked

0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:19.720
<v Speaker 1>the way you intended it to. And in this case

0:25:20.160 --> 0:25:25.720
<v Speaker 1>it worked amazingly well. The the the craft descended, it

0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:28.159
<v Speaker 1>slowed a little bit in the atmosphere. It used a

0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:30.760
<v Speaker 1>parachute to slow itself a little bit further, and then

0:25:30.880 --> 0:25:34.239
<v Speaker 1>used booster rockets to slow the decent even more, and

0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:37.560
<v Speaker 1>then lowered the rover on a crane attached to the

0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:42.679
<v Speaker 1>rockets until it touched down on the surface of Mars. Uh.

0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:47.160
<v Speaker 1>The cables broke away from the rover the the landing,

0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:51.399
<v Speaker 1>the skycrane itself flew off and crashed several hundred meters away,

0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:54.240
<v Speaker 1>so that the rover would not be damaged by the

0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:57.479
<v Speaker 1>crash that was supposed to happen. Yeah, and it worked.

0:25:58.000 --> 0:26:02.240
<v Speaker 1>And that was I mean, the reaction in mission control

0:26:02.600 --> 0:26:05.280
<v Speaker 1>when they got confirmation that the rover had touched down

0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:08.879
<v Speaker 1>safely was I mean, it's such an expression of joy

0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:12.960
<v Speaker 1>and excitement that, you know, it was hard to keep

0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:15.000
<v Speaker 1>a smile off your face to see all these nerds

0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:20.280
<v Speaker 1>dancing around. And I say that with absolute affection. I

0:26:20.440 --> 0:26:23.280
<v Speaker 1>really I was. You know, I got to watch it

0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:26.159
<v Speaker 1>live too, because I was covering it. And it was

0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:30.560
<v Speaker 1>one of those things that just makes you feel really

0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:33.840
<v Speaker 1>optimistic to see something that you would think, gosh, that

0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:37.800
<v Speaker 1>just sounds insane, and yet they pulled it off. It's

0:26:37.960 --> 0:26:41.199
<v Speaker 1>really a testament to what we can achieve if we

0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:44.119
<v Speaker 1>really put our minds to it. So, um, it was

0:26:44.320 --> 0:26:46.240
<v Speaker 1>a pretty great story. And then, of course that's just

0:26:46.280 --> 0:26:48.280
<v Speaker 1>the beginning of the story. The real story is the

0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:52.160
<v Speaker 1>stuff that the rover is discovering as it is doing

0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:55.200
<v Speaker 1>its mission on Mars, which again that's stuff that we're

0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:58.520
<v Speaker 1>still finding out about today. Some of that became like

0:26:58.600 --> 0:27:01.679
<v Speaker 1>a some little all false positives about stuff that got

0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:04.760
<v Speaker 1>us excited at first, and then further discussion and further

0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:10.000
<v Speaker 1>examination seemed to negate some of those early UH discoveries,

0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:12.960
<v Speaker 1>things like UH. At first, they thought that maybe there

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:17.359
<v Speaker 1>was methane present in UH in amounts large enough to

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:21.159
<v Speaker 1>suggest that perhaps something organic could have been on the

0:27:21.160 --> 0:27:24.159
<v Speaker 1>surface of Mars to produce that methane. But then after

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<v Speaker 1>considering the possibility that the methane could have been brought

0:27:28.640 --> 0:27:32.239
<v Speaker 1>along with the rover from Earth UH and doing some

0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:36.480
<v Speaker 1>further tests, it seemed to indicate that that was a

0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:40.359
<v Speaker 1>premature assumption that the methane itself was not present in

0:27:40.440 --> 0:27:44.639
<v Speaker 1>any significant amount on the surface of Mars. But you know,

0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:48.679
<v Speaker 1>take some of you you you lose them. Yeah. Another

0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:53.680
<v Speaker 1>another flawless touchdown was a guy nam Felix pum Gardener,

0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:57.879
<v Speaker 1>who uh didn't jump on the surface of Mars was

0:27:57.920 --> 0:28:00.159
<v Speaker 1>a little closer to home. But he did set a

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<v Speaker 1>new record for or set the record. I know, setting

0:28:05.320 --> 0:28:11.200
<v Speaker 1>a new record is redundant, but Uma said it set

0:28:09.760 --> 0:28:15.359
<v Speaker 1>a brand new height from which he jumped from essentially

0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:19.679
<v Speaker 1>space to parachute down to the surface of Earth and

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:24.160
<v Speaker 1>landed flawlessly. Yeah, your your mileage may vary as far

0:28:24.200 --> 0:28:27.760
<v Speaker 1>as the term space goes. But but he did jump

0:28:27.800 --> 0:28:30.679
<v Speaker 1>from a height greater than anyone has ever jumped before,

0:28:31.440 --> 0:28:34.200
<v Speaker 1>and he did it. Uh, And it was again something

0:28:34.240 --> 0:28:38.280
<v Speaker 1>I watched live and again it was terrifying, absolutely terrifying

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:41.080
<v Speaker 1>to see this man step out on a tiny ledge,

0:28:41.120 --> 0:28:44.120
<v Speaker 1>the ledge the size of a skateboard, attached to the capsule,

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:49.200
<v Speaker 1>hanging over absolutely nothing, looking down at the at the Earth,

0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:52.160
<v Speaker 1>and then just letting go and falling. Keeping in mind

0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:55.160
<v Speaker 1>that for the first portion of his descent he had

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<v Speaker 1>no control over his orientation or attitude at all in

0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:01.840
<v Speaker 1>the air because there wasn't enough air resistance for him

0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:05.760
<v Speaker 1>to be able to position himself the way a skydiver

0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 1>would in a traditional jump. So I mean watching him

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:13.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of tumble was my heart was in my throat. UH.

0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:16.800
<v Speaker 1>And then once he was able to use air resistance

0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 1>to help orient himself, it was smooth falling from there. Yes, yes,

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 1>and I agree with you at um. Watching him tumble

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:29.680
<v Speaker 1>around like that and made me think that he was

0:29:29.720 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 1>going to black out. Thankfully he did not and and

0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 1>was successful in in landing. Uh. Slightly more successful than

0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:40.959
<v Speaker 1>a bear named Bruno who decided to jump from slightly

0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:45.160
<v Speaker 1>farther out into a block of cement did not end

0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:47.960
<v Speaker 1>as well. Those of you who are Loony Tunes fans

0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:50.680
<v Speaker 1>will know what I'm talking about. But Jonathan's looking at

0:29:50.720 --> 0:29:53.120
<v Speaker 1>me funny, which means he probably wants to hurry up

0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:55.400
<v Speaker 1>now that we're going along and talk about the Higgs boson.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Yes, the Large had Drawn collider. This is

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<v Speaker 1>This is actually the last story I have on my list.

0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:07.960
<v Speaker 1>The Higgs Boson is a theoretical particle that would help

0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 1>explain why matter has mass, Why does matter have mass?

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:15.760
<v Speaker 1>What is it that makes matter have mass? Uh? And

0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:20.160
<v Speaker 1>the Large Hadron collider they were talking about this would

0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:23.080
<v Speaker 1>be one of the reasons that they would conduct experiments

0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:25.280
<v Speaker 1>there is to see if there's any evidence for the

0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Higgs Boson particle. So this particle theoretically would explain why

0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:33.760
<v Speaker 1>matter has mass if it in fact exists. Uh. Mathematically

0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:35.840
<v Speaker 1>it all seems to work out. But the problem is

0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:40.200
<v Speaker 1>that we did not have observable or experimental data that

0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:42.760
<v Speaker 1>would prove its existence. It was just one of those

0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:45.360
<v Speaker 1>things that it would be awfully convenient if it did exist,

0:30:45.360 --> 0:30:49.680
<v Speaker 1>because then it would explain this UM. Some experiments and

0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 1>at the LHC this year brought up some data that

0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:57.960
<v Speaker 1>seems to support the existence of the Higgs boson. I

0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:00.600
<v Speaker 1>say seems to support because the science US were very

0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:04.960
<v Speaker 1>careful to say that while it was very encouraging and

0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:08.360
<v Speaker 1>it could potentially be evidence that the Higgs boson, it

0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:10.400
<v Speaker 1>is in fact a thing and that they did in

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:14.560
<v Speaker 1>fact observe it. Uh, they you know, they want to

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:18.920
<v Speaker 1>continue to study and replicate the study to make certain

0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:21.440
<v Speaker 1>that that is in fact the case, which of course

0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:25.800
<v Speaker 1>is the way good science happens. If you discover something

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:29.840
<v Speaker 1>in science, you do want to try and replicate that experiment,

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:34.160
<v Speaker 1>uh prebably get someone else to replicate if you can, uh,

0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:36.920
<v Speaker 1>to make sure that what you have observed is in

0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:41.280
<v Speaker 1>fact a real phenomena and not just something that was

0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:47.360
<v Speaker 1>um due to instrumentation error or human error or something else.

0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:51.200
<v Speaker 1>And uh, and so it may very well be that

0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:55.040
<v Speaker 1>we have uncovered the evidence of the Higgs boson, which

0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:57.480
<v Speaker 1>would be interesting. Then I know there are plenty of

0:31:57.480 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 1>physicists out there who we're hoping that perhaps it would

0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 1>be something else, because it would mean something new to find.

0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:08.720
<v Speaker 1>The worry is that, or one of the worries is

0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:13.240
<v Speaker 1>that if we do prove the existence of the Higgs boson,

0:32:13.800 --> 0:32:17.280
<v Speaker 1>that we have answered one question and it kind of

0:32:17.360 --> 0:32:19.960
<v Speaker 1>makes us hit a dead end and we can't find

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:24.280
<v Speaker 1>out more about the fundamental nature of matter in in

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:28.160
<v Speaker 1>that particular avenue because of that, which would be kind

0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:32.240
<v Speaker 1>of sad. Um. So that's kind of interesting to me,

0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:34.880
<v Speaker 1>the idea that if you answer a question, it's kind

0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:37.400
<v Speaker 1>of sad because the answer is the end, and then

0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:39.520
<v Speaker 1>you have to find new questions to ask, which to

0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:41.320
<v Speaker 1>me is just as exciting. But then I'm not a

0:32:41.320 --> 0:32:44.600
<v Speaker 1>physicist who's dedicating my entire life upon upon one part

0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:49.520
<v Speaker 1>of particle physics. Um. And And honestly, I can't really

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:53.120
<v Speaker 1>speak about this to any greater length because I mean,

0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:56.400
<v Speaker 1>I have a layman's understanding of the whole thing. I mean,

0:32:56.560 --> 0:33:00.680
<v Speaker 1>I know what a hadron is. That's about is as

0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:04.560
<v Speaker 1>detailed as I can get. Still fascinating to watch. Yeah, yeah,

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:09.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean too. It means that we are slowly increasing

0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 1>our knowledge about some of the fundamental forces that uh,

0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:16.840
<v Speaker 1>that are in our universe, like the strong nuclear force.

0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's one of the four fundamental forces. It's

0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:24.200
<v Speaker 1>the strongest of the four and UH and these experiments

0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:28.200
<v Speaker 1>help us understand more about that fundamental force and to

0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:32.040
<v Speaker 1>to understand why it works the way it does. UM.

0:33:32.360 --> 0:33:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Very exciting stuff and I am so pleased to hear

0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:39.520
<v Speaker 1>about the successes at the LHC, because you know, when

0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:41.360
<v Speaker 1>it was first being built and when it was first

0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:44.960
<v Speaker 1>coming online, it had so many problems early early on

0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:49.160
<v Speaker 1>that it was a bit nerve racking, you know. You know,

0:33:49.680 --> 0:33:53.120
<v Speaker 1>they had delays because of helium leaks, they had delays

0:33:53.160 --> 0:33:57.719
<v Speaker 1>because of birds with baguettes. It was one of those

0:33:57.760 --> 0:34:00.320
<v Speaker 1>things where you didn't want to you did want to

0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:02.640
<v Speaker 1>see him fail, but you were starting to get a

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 1>sinking sensation that it was gonna be a lot harder

0:34:05.200 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 1>than you thought. And then once things got turned around,

0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, the the information coming out of the LHC

0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:14.839
<v Speaker 1>was very exciting. And they still have, i mean, countless

0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:19.360
<v Speaker 1>experiments to run. So it'll be interesting to see what

0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:23.720
<v Speaker 1>other information we uncover using those that that enormous machine

0:34:24.280 --> 0:34:30.879
<v Speaker 1>to learn more about our universe, agreed put Chris. Yeah,

0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:33.680
<v Speaker 1>well I'll tell you. I uh, I have to disagree

0:34:33.719 --> 0:34:36.600
<v Speaker 1>with my earlier statement. There was a lot of stuff

0:34:36.600 --> 0:34:40.239
<v Speaker 1>that happened. Yeah, it didn't seem like it when I

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:41.920
<v Speaker 1>went back over it. But then I started looking at

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:45.960
<v Speaker 1>my notes from you know, all the titles that I

0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:47.880
<v Speaker 1>take notes and keep all my notes for tech stuff

0:34:47.880 --> 0:34:50.480
<v Speaker 1>in one place. I started thinking, Oh, well, then there's that,

0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:54.960
<v Speaker 1>and oh there's another story I just hadn't thought about. Yeah, again,

0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:57.040
<v Speaker 1>it was a lot. There were there were stories that

0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:58.840
<v Speaker 1>were and and like some of the things like the

0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:03.040
<v Speaker 1>SISPA PIPA stuff, the mega upload stuff. Um, you know

0:35:03.120 --> 0:35:07.720
<v Speaker 1>that that kind of thing is gonna affect policies moving forward,

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:12.680
<v Speaker 1>the Internet outage in Syria and Libya, that that stuff

0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:15.600
<v Speaker 1>is going to definitely play a bigger role in two

0:35:15.600 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 1>thousand and thirteen. Um, A lot of this we see

0:35:19.200 --> 0:35:22.680
<v Speaker 1>as the continuation of trends, in the escalation of trends,

0:35:22.680 --> 0:35:25.839
<v Speaker 1>and I expect that that two thirteen will have even

0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:28.799
<v Speaker 1>more of that, well, we may see some pretty um

0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 1>dramatic outcomes to some of these stories. The McAfee story alone,

0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:37.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm curious to see how that plays out

0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:41.520
<v Speaker 1>and whether you know whether or not this becomes one

0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:47.000
<v Speaker 1>of the biggest mysteries of of Internet personalities that I

0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 1>can think of. If what McAfee says is all true,

0:35:52.000 --> 0:35:55.880
<v Speaker 1>then it's got to be one of the craziest like

0:35:56.880 --> 0:36:02.719
<v Speaker 1>uh character assassination attempts ever, because the information that's come

0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:06.600
<v Speaker 1>out that McPhee has, the things that McFee has uh

0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:10.879
<v Speaker 1>supposedly done, according to these allegations, is so different from

0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:13.759
<v Speaker 1>what he claims to have happened that you wonder, all right,

0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:16.000
<v Speaker 1>if that's true, If what McAfee saying is true, someone

0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:19.319
<v Speaker 1>is going to great links to to really drag him

0:36:19.360 --> 0:36:22.680
<v Speaker 1>through the mud. So what's the story behind that? And

0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:26.400
<v Speaker 1>if in fact McAfee is fibbing and the allegations are true,

0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:30.640
<v Speaker 1>that alone is movie material. In fact, if a movie

0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:34.239
<v Speaker 1>is not made about McAfee at least from inspired by

0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:38.440
<v Speaker 1>what McAfee has done, I will be shocked. And again,

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:40.200
<v Speaker 1>there are still a couple of weeks left after we

0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:44.000
<v Speaker 1>record this. In two thousand twelve, Um, Bradley Manning just

0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:47.320
<v Speaker 1>went on trial for the Wiki leaks scandal, which didn't

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:51.000
<v Speaker 1>happen in twelve, but you know, the trial is started

0:36:51.000 --> 0:36:53.919
<v Speaker 1>in motion now, so um, you know there there's still

0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:56.200
<v Speaker 1>some other things that will happen and other other things

0:36:56.200 --> 0:37:00.480
<v Speaker 1>that have been said into motion before this. So may

0:37:00.560 --> 0:37:03.080
<v Speaker 1>just be a year of big news. Yeah, yeah, we'll

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:06.280
<v Speaker 1>have to wait and see. Well, uh, guys are next

0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:08.480
<v Speaker 1>episode will be the one you've all been waiting for

0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:11.600
<v Speaker 1>where Chris and I will sit down and grade ourselves

0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:16.399
<v Speaker 1>for our performance from last year's predictions rama. Uh, and

0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:19.000
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