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Speaker 1: Get in touch with technology with tech Stuff from how Stuff,

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Speaker 1: What'stop Coming? Hello again everyone, and welcome to tech Stuff.

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Speaker 1: My name is Chris Polette and I am an editor

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Speaker 1: of how Stuff works dot Com. Sitting across from me

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Speaker 1: as usual because we're actually splitting this episode into two parts,

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Speaker 1: is senior writer Jonathan Strickland. Didn't we do this already? Yes,

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Speaker 1: we did, but it turned out to be longer than

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Speaker 1: we thought. Yeah, the episode about the Year in Tech

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Speaker 1: for two thousand and twelve ended up Chris and I

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Speaker 1: ended up being chatty Cathy's and uh, I think according

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Speaker 1: to Tyler, the full length episode was about an hour

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Speaker 1: and seventeen or eighteen minutes long, which we thought was excessive,

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Speaker 1: so we decided to split that into two. So now,

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Speaker 1: without further ado, we bring you part two of the

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Speaker 1: year that was the Tech of two thousand and twelve.

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Speaker 1: What happened other executive shakeups? We just did a recent

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Speaker 1: episode about two big names leaving big companies. Uh, we

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Speaker 1: had four Stall leaving Apple. He was the fellow who

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Speaker 1: was Scott four Stall, who was kind of in charge

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Speaker 1: of iOS and and there were several things that kind

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Speaker 1: of led up to his Uh, departure from Apple, he

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Speaker 1: went into an advisory position, but then would eventually leave

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Speaker 1: the company. I don't think he's actually left yet, still

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Speaker 1: in an advisory capacity, but UM. One of the many

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Speaker 1: problems with his tenure was the Maps app for iOS.

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Speaker 1: When I the iPhone five was announced in Io S

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Speaker 1: was the native turn by turn map application for the iPhone,

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Speaker 1: and it replaced other apps that had been supported on

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Speaker 1: there was a problem. It was not always accurate. UM.

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Speaker 1: Some people had real problems with the Maps app. I

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Speaker 1: I only used it a couple of times. My wife

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Speaker 1: so there wasn't any problem along those lines. We weren't

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Speaker 1: put on any phantom roads or sent in wild googe

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Speaker 1: some pretty notable problems with the maps app, like finding

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Speaker 1: actually four miles further up the street than where you

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Speaker 1: were told to turn, which could and in disaster for

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Speaker 1: someone who is slavishly devoted to following the directions that

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Speaker 1: their phone is giving. UM. I'm not saying that they're

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Speaker 1: they're probably buying a new car now because their old

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Speaker 1: the other guy who who made big headlines in leaving

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Speaker 1: he was going to be leaving, at least according to

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Speaker 1: to the sources within the company and to him that

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Speaker 1: that would be Steve Sinowski, who was instrumental at Microsoft

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Speaker 1: and getting the brand new release out the door, Windows

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Speaker 1: Within a couple of months there was the news report

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Speaker 1: be that it was a decision reached by both parties. Sonovski,

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Speaker 1: brain works, y'all. Well, another big Microsoft news they released

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Speaker 1: a tablet, the Surface Tablet. Yes now now Windows eight

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Speaker 1: will be interesting to see how this plays out. I

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Speaker 1: know that I was reading articles that suggests that surface

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Speaker 1: many came out from from Apple. Um still confuses me, Chris, seriously,

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Speaker 1: And it may very well be that he had changed

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Speaker 1: and excitement that, you know, it was hard to keep

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Speaker 1: a smile off your face to see all these nerds

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Speaker 1: dancing around. And I say that with absolute affection. I

436
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Speaker 1: really I was. You know, I got to watch it

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Speaker 1: live too, because I was covering it. And it was

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Speaker 1: one of those things that just makes you feel really

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Speaker 1: optimistic to see something that you would think, gosh, that

440
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Speaker 1: just sounds insane, and yet they pulled it off. It's

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Speaker 1: really a testament to what we can achieve if we

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Speaker 1: really put our minds to it. So, um, it was

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Speaker 1: a pretty great story. And then, of course that's just

444
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Speaker 1: the beginning of the story. The real story is the

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Speaker 1: stuff that the rover is discovering as it is doing

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Speaker 1: its mission on Mars, which again that's stuff that we're

447
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Speaker 1: still finding out about today. Some of that became like

448
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Speaker 1: a some little all false positives about stuff that got

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Speaker 1: us excited at first, and then further discussion and further

450
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Speaker 1: examination seemed to negate some of those early UH discoveries,

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Speaker 1: things like UH. At first, they thought that maybe there

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Speaker 1: was methane present in UH in amounts large enough to

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Speaker 1: suggest that perhaps something organic could have been on the

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Speaker 1: surface of Mars to produce that methane. But then after

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Speaker 1: considering the possibility that the methane could have been brought

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Speaker 1: along with the rover from Earth UH and doing some

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Speaker 1: further tests, it seemed to indicate that that was a

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Speaker 1: premature assumption that the methane itself was not present in

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Speaker 1: any significant amount on the surface of Mars. But you know,

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Speaker 1: take some of you you you lose them. Yeah. Another

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Speaker 1: another flawless touchdown was a guy nam Felix pum Gardener,

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Speaker 1: who uh didn't jump on the surface of Mars was

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Speaker 1: a little closer to home. But he did set a

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Speaker 1: new record for or set the record. I know, setting

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Speaker 1: a new record is redundant, but Uma said it set

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Speaker 1: a brand new height from which he jumped from essentially

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Speaker 1: space to parachute down to the surface of Earth and

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Speaker 1: landed flawlessly. Yeah, your your mileage may vary as far

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Speaker 1: as the term space goes. But but he did jump

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Speaker 1: from a height greater than anyone has ever jumped before,

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Speaker 1: and he did it. Uh, And it was again something

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Speaker 1: I watched live and again it was terrifying, absolutely terrifying

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Speaker 1: to see this man step out on a tiny ledge,

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Speaker 1: the ledge the size of a skateboard, attached to the capsule,

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Speaker 1: hanging over absolutely nothing, looking down at the at the Earth,

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Speaker 1: and then just letting go and falling. Keeping in mind

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Speaker 1: that for the first portion of his descent he had

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Speaker 1: the air because there wasn't enough air resistance for him

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Speaker 1: to be able to position himself the way a skydiver

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Speaker 1: would in a traditional jump. So I mean watching him

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Speaker 1: kind of tumble was my heart was in my throat. UH.

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Speaker 1: And then once he was able to use air resistance

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Speaker 1: to help orient himself, it was smooth falling from there. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: and I agree with you at um. Watching him tumble

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Speaker 1: going to black out. Thankfully he did not and and

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Speaker 1: was successful in in landing. Uh. Slightly more successful than

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Speaker 1: a bear named Bruno who decided to jump from slightly

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Speaker 1: farther out into a block of cement did not end

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Speaker 1: as well. Those of you who are Loony Tunes fans

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Speaker 1: will know what I'm talking about. But Jonathan's looking at

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Speaker 1: me funny, which means he probably wants to hurry up

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Speaker 1: now that we're going along and talk about the Higgs boson.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Yes, the Large had Drawn collider. This is

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Speaker 1: This is actually the last story I have on my list.

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Speaker 1: The Higgs Boson is a theoretical particle that would help

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Speaker 1: explain why matter has mass, Why does matter have mass?

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Speaker 1: What is it that makes matter have mass? Uh? And

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Speaker 1: the Large Hadron collider they were talking about this would

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Speaker 1: be one of the reasons that they would conduct experiments

502
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Speaker 1: there is to see if there's any evidence for the

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Speaker 1: Higgs Boson particle. So this particle theoretically would explain why

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Speaker 1: matter has mass if it in fact exists. Uh. Mathematically

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Speaker 1: it all seems to work out. But the problem is

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Speaker 1: that we did not have observable or experimental data that

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Speaker 1: would prove its existence. It was just one of those

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Speaker 1: things that it would be awfully convenient if it did exist,

509
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Speaker 1: because then it would explain this UM. Some experiments and

510
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Speaker 1: at the LHC this year brought up some data that

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Speaker 1: seems to support the existence of the Higgs boson. I

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Speaker 1: say seems to support because the science US were very

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Speaker 1: careful to say that while it was very encouraging and

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Speaker 1: it could potentially be evidence that the Higgs boson, it

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Speaker 1: is in fact a thing and that they did in

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Speaker 1: fact observe it. Uh, they you know, they want to

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Speaker 1: continue to study and replicate the study to make certain

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Speaker 1: that that is in fact the case, which of course

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Speaker 1: is the way good science happens. If you discover something

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Speaker 1: in science, you do want to try and replicate that experiment,

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Speaker 1: uh prebably get someone else to replicate if you can, uh,

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Speaker 1: to make sure that what you have observed is in

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Speaker 1: fact a real phenomena and not just something that was

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Speaker 1: um due to instrumentation error or human error or something else.

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Speaker 1: And uh, and so it may very well be that

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Speaker 1: we have uncovered the evidence of the Higgs boson, which

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Speaker 1: would be interesting. Then I know there are plenty of

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Speaker 1: physicists out there who we're hoping that perhaps it would

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Speaker 1: be something else, because it would mean something new to find.

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Speaker 1: The worry is that, or one of the worries is

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Speaker 1: that if we do prove the existence of the Higgs boson,

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Speaker 1: that we have answered one question and it kind of

533
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Speaker 1: makes us hit a dead end and we can't find

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Speaker 1: out more about the fundamental nature of matter in in

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Speaker 1: that particular avenue because of that, which would be kind

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Speaker 1: of sad. Um. So that's kind of interesting to me,

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Speaker 1: the idea that if you answer a question, it's kind

538
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Speaker 1: of sad because the answer is the end, and then

539
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Speaker 1: you have to find new questions to ask, which to

540
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Speaker 1: me is just as exciting. But then I'm not a

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Speaker 1: physicist who's dedicating my entire life upon upon one part

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Speaker 1: of particle physics. Um. And And honestly, I can't really

543
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Speaker 1: speak about this to any greater length because I mean,

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Speaker 1: I have a layman's understanding of the whole thing. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know what a hadron is. That's about is as

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Speaker 1: detailed as I can get. Still fascinating to watch. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean too. It means that we are slowly increasing

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Speaker 1: our knowledge about some of the fundamental forces that uh,

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Speaker 1: that are in our universe, like the strong nuclear force.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's one of the four fundamental forces. It's

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Speaker 1: the strongest of the four and UH and these experiments

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Speaker 1: help us understand more about that fundamental force and to

553
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Speaker 1: to understand why it works the way it does. UM.

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Speaker 1: Very exciting stuff and I am so pleased to hear

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Speaker 1: about the successes at the LHC, because you know, when

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Speaker 1: it was first being built and when it was first

557
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Speaker 1: coming online, it had so many problems early early on

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Speaker 1: that it was a bit nerve racking, you know. You know,

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Speaker 1: they had delays because of helium leaks, they had delays

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Speaker 1: because of birds with baguettes. It was one of those

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Speaker 1: things where you didn't want to you did want to

562
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Speaker 1: see him fail, but you were starting to get a

563
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: sinking sensation that it was gonna be a lot harder

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Speaker 1: than you thought. And then once things got turned around,

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Speaker 1: you know, the the information coming out of the LHC

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Speaker 1: was very exciting. And they still have, i mean, countless

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Speaker 1: experiments to run. So it'll be interesting to see what

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Speaker 1: other information we uncover using those that that enormous machine

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Speaker 1: to learn more about our universe, agreed put Chris. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well I'll tell you. I uh, I have to disagree

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Speaker 1: with my earlier statement. There was a lot of stuff

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Speaker 1: that happened. Yeah, it didn't seem like it when I

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Speaker 1: went back over it. But then I started looking at

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Speaker 1: my notes from you know, all the titles that I

575
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Speaker 1: take notes and keep all my notes for tech stuff

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Speaker 1: in one place. I started thinking, Oh, well, then there's that,

577
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Speaker 1: and oh there's another story I just hadn't thought about. Yeah, again,

578
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Speaker 1: it was a lot. There were there were stories that

579
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Speaker 1: were and and like some of the things like the

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Speaker 1: SISPA PIPA stuff, the mega upload stuff. Um, you know

581
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 1: that that kind of thing is gonna affect policies moving forward,

582
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: the Internet outage in Syria and Libya, that that stuff

583
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: is going to definitely play a bigger role in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and thirteen. Um, A lot of this we see

585
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Speaker 1: as the continuation of trends, in the escalation of trends,

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Speaker 1: and I expect that that two thirteen will have even

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00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: more of that, well, we may see some pretty um

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00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: dramatic outcomes to some of these stories. The McAfee story alone,

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00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm curious to see how that plays out

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Speaker 1: and whether you know whether or not this becomes one

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Speaker 1: of the biggest mysteries of of Internet personalities that I

592
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Speaker 1: can think of. If what McAfee says is all true,

593
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Speaker 1: then it's got to be one of the craziest like

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Speaker 1: uh character assassination attempts ever, because the information that's come

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00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: out that McPhee has, the things that McFee has uh

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Speaker 1: supposedly done, according to these allegations, is so different from

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00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: what he claims to have happened that you wonder, all right,

598
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: if that's true, If what McAfee saying is true, someone

599
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 1: is going to great links to to really drag him

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Speaker 1: through the mud. So what's the story behind that? And

601
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Speaker 1: if in fact McAfee is fibbing and the allegations are true,

602
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: that alone is movie material. In fact, if a movie

603
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: is not made about McAfee at least from inspired by

604
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Speaker 1: what McAfee has done, I will be shocked. And again,

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Speaker 1: there are still a couple of weeks left after we

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Speaker 1: record this. In two thousand twelve, Um, Bradley Manning just

607
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Speaker 1: went on trial for the Wiki leaks scandal, which didn't

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Speaker 1: happen in twelve, but you know, the trial is started

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00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 1: in motion now, so um, you know there there's still

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Speaker 1: some other things that will happen and other other things

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Speaker 1: that have been said into motion before this. So may

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Speaker 1: just be a year of big news. Yeah, yeah, we'll

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Speaker 1: have to wait and see. Well, uh, guys are next

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Speaker 1: episode will be the one you've all been waiting for

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Speaker 1: where Chris and I will sit down and grade ourselves

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Speaker 1: for our performance from last year's predictions rama. Uh, and

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Speaker 1: so you wanna stay tuned and listening to that one.

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