WEBVTT - Jennie Garth Meets World

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up in a gaming family.

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<v Speaker 2>Like everybody, it's board games, like all the time, board games,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's one of those things that like can be

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<v Speaker 2>exhausting to other people who have to get invited.

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<v Speaker 1>To my house and have to play board games.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's also sometimes a little exhausty for me because my

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<v Speaker 2>parents like to buy brand new board games all the

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<v Speaker 2>time and spring them on us, and they try and

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<v Speaker 2>find things that are either like it's just hard to

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<v Speaker 2>hit the sweet spot with a growing child because you're

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<v Speaker 2>either getting a game that's too advanced and he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to play it, or it's way too simple and

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<v Speaker 2>you're like Snakes and Ladders just sucks or shoots. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just like these games, you know, like sometimes the candy

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<v Speaker 2>Land is the dumbest, Life is the worst.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I hate it.

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<v Speaker 3>You a winner at the game anyway? Buy a dog?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that the commercial?

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<v Speaker 4>Really?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Get get married, maybe have babies. Yeah you don't.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my gosh, no, I don't think i've ever heard.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So my parents bought this game and they brought it

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<v Speaker 2>or they bought it. They bought it at Christmas and

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<v Speaker 2>we were gonna play it. And I was just like

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<v Speaker 2>This is the dumbest thing ever, this game.

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<v Speaker 1>How is this a game? This should not be a game?

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<v Speaker 1>Ends up being the funnest game in.

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<v Speaker 2>The World's gonna play it with you, guys. And here's

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<v Speaker 2>why it's a dumb game. There's no losing in this game.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no points there.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's for the younger generation. Yes, trophies for everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>It just showed up.

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<v Speaker 1>All it is is quick, quick, quick, the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I set a timer and then if like, let's say

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<v Speaker 2>it's Will's turn, I'm gonna set this timer. I think

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<v Speaker 2>the timers for like thirty seconds, maybe a minute, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>And then I pull out these cards and I have

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<v Speaker 2>to ask you to name three things. Each card is

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<v Speaker 2>named three things, so, oh, three things mice would be

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<v Speaker 2>really good at. You have to name three things that

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<v Speaker 2>mice would be really good.

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<v Speaker 5>At, legitimately or no wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Answers, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>The only thing is to not have an answer and

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<v Speaker 2>to take too long. So it's how many cards can

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<v Speaker 2>you get through before the timer runs out?

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<v Speaker 3>Odd?

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<v Speaker 1>No wrong answers, Just don't stop talking.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, I'm going go, oh God. Three bad places to

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<v Speaker 3>bring a fish the desert, the sky, and the.

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<v Speaker 1>Forest, Three things you can say to a bank robber.

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<v Speaker 3>A nice mask, Hey, don't put that gut in my face,

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<v Speaker 3>and can I help you with that bag of money?

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<v Speaker 1>Three silly reasons to throw a fit.

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<v Speaker 3>Danielle is always late, riders, Internet is screwing up, and

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<v Speaker 3>we all sound like we're recording out potatoes.

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<v Speaker 1>Three places to wear cool sunglasses.

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<v Speaker 3>Outside at the beach, on an airplane.

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<v Speaker 1>Three pieces of advice for a con artist.

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<v Speaker 3>Commit to the bit. Costumes will make it happen, and

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<v Speaker 3>a fake nose will get you far. Three ways to

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<v Speaker 3>defeat a clown in battle punching, stabbing, shooting. Three things

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<v Speaker 3>that was great, dude, you did better than almost everybody

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<v Speaker 3>in my family.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my gosh, that's so good.

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<v Speaker 2>Five six, I think like we we max out around five.

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<v Speaker 1>Would be amazing. All right, Danielle, you're ready, so good?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, okay, I'm ready. Also, I am not late.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't think about it. Don't think about it. There's the

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<v Speaker 2>only wrong answer is not answered. Three new ways to

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<v Speaker 2>pronounce your name.

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<v Speaker 5>Donielle, Fichelle, doniel Fichelle, and Danny Fish.

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<v Speaker 1>Three things that make a party lame.

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<v Speaker 5>People drinks and snacks terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Three terrible materials to make a boat out of, uh.

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<v Speaker 5>Cotton, linen, and DVDs. Three reasons a dog might bark squirrels,

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<v Speaker 5>firecrackers and guns.

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<v Speaker 1>Three things you would not want to be locked in

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<v Speaker 1>a room.

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<v Speaker 5>With spiders, Wilfred l and and cats.

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<v Speaker 2>Physical three physical traits an alien could have ears, long fingers,

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<v Speaker 2>and green slime. Three ways to impress a movie star.

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<v Speaker 5>Fancy, Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you beat Will?

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<v Speaker 3>What? Two?

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<v Speaker 1>Three, four? Tied at six?

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't it funny that the second you try and get clever,

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<v Speaker 2>like the second you're Wilfred Ellen.

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<v Speaker 5>I couldn't pick up with anything else after?

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<v Speaker 2>It was so funny is that you said three things

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<v Speaker 2>a dog might bark at and those three could have

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<v Speaker 2>been the next one because the next one was what

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want to be locked in a room with.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like just say the same thing because like squirrels.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, So who won? When you guys are playing?

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<v Speaker 2>I usually did, or mere Indy, because like it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>about your ability to just like turn your brain off

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<v Speaker 2>and to just talk, which guess what kids can do

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<v Speaker 2>really well?

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<v Speaker 1>And like, yeah, you guys are amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew it was gonna be because you play like

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<v Speaker 2>when you play with my parents and they literally get

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<v Speaker 2>through like three cards because it's just like they're they're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to be clever or they're just trying to think

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<v Speaker 2>of the right answer, and it's like the whole game

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<v Speaker 2>is just how do we turn your brain off and

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<v Speaker 2>try and get through this as quickly as possible, And

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<v Speaker 2>then you get really upset with a person takes too

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<v Speaker 2>long to read the card.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the real problem is.

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<v Speaker 2>Like people get caught up on one answer for everything,

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<v Speaker 2>so they'll be like, put it up your butt and

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<v Speaker 2>then like that, you know, then everybody realizes that that's like

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<v Speaker 2>so funny that they're just gonna say that for everything,

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<v Speaker 2>three things you can do with the light bulb, and

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<v Speaker 2>then then you get caught You're like that's I can't

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<v Speaker 2>just keep doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's quite quick. Yeah, quick, quick, quick, quick, quick,

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<v Speaker 3>dumbest game ever.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it so much.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the greatest party game. It's like just how much

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<v Speaker 2>can you turn your brain off and just go with it?

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<v Speaker 1>And like it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Genuinely hard for me, Like William amazing at this game.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing his weight.

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<v Speaker 2>Would have been like yeah, but it's also it goes

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<v Speaker 2>through a curve like it starts off. Everybody's pretty slow.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys started off really fast. Usually people start off

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<v Speaker 2>only able to get like three or four. Then they

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<v Speaker 2>get good up to like five ish, and then you

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<v Speaker 2>start overthinking it and go back to like two because

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<v Speaker 2>in your brain's like, well now I've I've run out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so fun to play.

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<v Speaker 4>That's funny.

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<v Speaker 5>That is good. I know there were a couple of

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<v Speaker 5>times that like I would say something like when I

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<v Speaker 5>said green slime. Then as you were reading the next question,

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<v Speaker 5>I thought was that's not an that's not a bit,

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<v Speaker 5>that's not a like, And then I was like.

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<v Speaker 1>Just keep going talking.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, yes you're not late uh normally, which

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<v Speaker 3>is good. But also being locked in a room with

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<v Speaker 3>me would be awesome.

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<v Speaker 5>I know that is true. I just wanted to get

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<v Speaker 5>back at your kind and.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I keep it. It's a little bit because

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<v Speaker 1>you're thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like, how do I what I'm gonna say something

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<v Speaker 5>mean about you say something? Say something mean me, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Say something mean fatty mcfatty fast.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, in a room with you, even though we spend

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<v Speaker 5>time together all the time. Well, that was really fun. Writer,

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<v Speaker 5>I enjoyed that game. Thank you for sharing it with us. Quick, quick, quick,

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<v Speaker 5>We'll do it again. Welcome to bod meets World.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Daniel Fisher, I'm Braderstrom, and I'm Wilford Dell, Ron

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<v Speaker 3>Stoppable Eric Matthews.

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<v Speaker 1>Left.

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<v Speaker 5>For the past three years we have participated in what

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<v Speaker 5>we originally called a rewatch podcast, but have only recently

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<v Speaker 5>found out it is technically public trauma counseling. We have laughed,

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<v Speaker 5>we have cried, we've suppressed, we've disassociated, but above all else,

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<v Speaker 5>we've grown. And this week's guests new book, I Choose Me,

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<v Speaker 5>Chasing Joy, finding purpose, and embracing reinvention might just be

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<v Speaker 5>the spiritual literature needed for this journey. She found fame

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<v Speaker 5>in nineteen ninety when she was cast as Kelly Taylor,

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<v Speaker 5>the iconic, perfect on the surface, complicated underneath high schooler

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<v Speaker 5>on Beverly Hills nine two one oh, a cultural phenomenon

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<v Speaker 5>that not only pushed Fox from Laughingstock to Powerhouse Network,

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<v Speaker 5>but sent everyone on the show into an orbit beyond fame.

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<v Speaker 5>She spent ten years at Beverly High, facing drug addiction, pregnancy,

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<v Speaker 5>and amnesia, all while spending weekends at the peach Pit

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<v Speaker 5>and helping launch spinoffs like Melrose Place and Models Inc.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait.

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<v Speaker 3>They were in high school for ten years, they went

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<v Speaker 3>to college, they went to Occidenta was the location for

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<v Speaker 3>their Cold Day, Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>Get Yeah, then rebooting it all to revisit the character

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<v Speaker 5>in two thousand and eight for the self Aware spinoff

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<v Speaker 5>nine O two one OH. She'd later co star with

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<v Speaker 5>Amanda Bynes on the sitcom What I Like About You

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<v Speaker 5>and Make It all the way to the semifinals with

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<v Speaker 5>partner Derek Huff on season five of Dancing with the Stars. Plus,

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<v Speaker 5>she's a fellow podcaster with I Choose Me and her

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<v Speaker 5>own rewatch endeavor nine O two one MG, both here

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<v Speaker 5>at iHeart, and she's an entrepreneur with her own lifestyle

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<v Speaker 5>and clothing line sold exclusively on QVC and Yes. Her

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<v Speaker 5>newest memoir, slash Self Help Manifesto, invites the reader into

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<v Speaker 5>her real story of growing up on TV and facing

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<v Speaker 5>Hollywood's impossible beauty standards, all while facing loss, heartbreak, and

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<v Speaker 5>the challenge of motherhood. She's seen it all, and now

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<v Speaker 5>in her fifties, she's aging with confidence and just learning

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<v Speaker 5>to put herself first. Sounds familiar right well, let's commiserate

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<v Speaker 5>now with our guest this week, a TV legend, Jenny Garth. Hello, writer, Hi,

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<v Speaker 5>good to see you. Thank you so much for coming

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<v Speaker 5>on our podcast. Our conversations you and I are usually

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<v Speaker 5>confined to me telling you how cute your code is.

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<v Speaker 5>At an iHeart party. That's usually the extent of conversation.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a passing. I'm like, you're so cute. So we

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<v Speaker 5>wanted to start by talking about your book, I Choose

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<v Speaker 5>Me Chasing Joy, finding purpose, and embracing reinvention. What was

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<v Speaker 5>it about turning fifty that made you want to look

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<v Speaker 5>back on your journey with a new perspective.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I don't know if I wanted to. I kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like forced you. Funny, you kind of reach an

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<v Speaker 4>age where you got to make.

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<v Speaker 6>Assessments and figure things out. You got to look back

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<v Speaker 6>and you got to think what do I want next?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I mean we can't otherwise just I was

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<v Speaker 6>just in a place of like wandering around lost with

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<v Speaker 6>really no direction and no kind of like passion for much.

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<v Speaker 6>I was just really searching. So at fifty I kind

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<v Speaker 6>of thought, you know, I have from fifty to sixty,

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<v Speaker 6>like like, let's see what I can do.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, let's like dig in find all the.

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<v Speaker 6>Places of things that I've always wanted to do but

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<v Speaker 6>never pushed myself or never you know, really was brave

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<v Speaker 6>enough to try. And so that's kind of of what

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<v Speaker 6>was the catalyst for doing the Exchoose Me podcast, doing

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<v Speaker 6>the clothing brand, and then the book and the Women's Summit,

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<v Speaker 6>Like it's all sort of like under this this beautiful

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<v Speaker 6>umbrella of choosing yourself, and I'm you know, just loving

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<v Speaker 6>that everything's kind of connected back to the one thing

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<v Speaker 6>that feels aligned for me and feels purpose driven and

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<v Speaker 6>feels like I'm making a difference in people's lives, maybe

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<v Speaker 6>one by two or one by one or whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 6>but like it feels more more intentional than just like

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<v Speaker 6>waiting for my manager to call me and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 6>there's an audition you could put yourself on tape for, right, right.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, no, I feel like that's the acting curse, right,

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<v Speaker 2>especially when you're a young actor. It's like you just

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<v Speaker 2>get into the habit of waiting for that opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>come and then maybe you'll get the part, or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you won't. Then Yeah, I feel like in some ways,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe we were all a little slower to learn to

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<v Speaker 2>take care of ourselves in the regard of like go

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<v Speaker 2>get your own, create your own opportunities.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, do you think did you guys feel that,

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<v Speaker 4>Because I've talked about that before.

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<v Speaker 6>I felt like I had a ten year bubble of

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<v Speaker 6>my life of like my personal development, my like choosing.

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<v Speaker 4>What I wanted to do in life gone.

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like I'm ten years behind people that went

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<v Speaker 6>to the normal route and went to college and like

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<v Speaker 6>rapped themselves out.

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<v Speaker 2>But then in other ways we were more mature, right

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<v Speaker 2>because we were like working full time and in working

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<v Speaker 2>with adults who are older than it.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like it's this weird paradig or contradiction. You know.

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<v Speaker 6>It was like you here, you have three house payments,

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<v Speaker 6>right and four employees, but you don't know how.

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<v Speaker 3>You're really much Yeah, all right.

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<v Speaker 5>I think doing this podcast, an unexpected result for us

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<v Speaker 5>has been the realization that we have all apparently blocked

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<v Speaker 5>some things out. So when you were looking back on

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<v Speaker 5>your life, is that something you noticed you had also experienced?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean there's childhood stuff that I blocked out that

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<v Speaker 6>you know, you don't really you don't really want to

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<v Speaker 6>go that far back and that deep. But I really

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<v Speaker 6>believe that you have to just kind of reveal all

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<v Speaker 6>your secrets or at least to yourself, and then be

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<v Speaker 6>selective about things.

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<v Speaker 4>That you want to move forward in the conversation. But

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<v Speaker 4>I found that.

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<v Speaker 6>I, you know, I had this memory issue too, So

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<v Speaker 6>I always thought like I was heading for some early

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<v Speaker 6>diagnosis or something because I have a very bad brain,

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<v Speaker 6>like my memory. So it was something that I was

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<v Speaker 6>curious about before I even started writing the book, like

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<v Speaker 6>why is my brain like this? And why can't I

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<v Speaker 6>remember huge chunks of my life?

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<v Speaker 4>I experienced that to have a picture.

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<v Speaker 6>If I see a picture, I'm like, oh, that's I

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<v Speaker 6>kind of see that moment that that photo was taken in,

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<v Speaker 6>but I don't really have anything around it. So always

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<v Speaker 6>just really curious about, like why my brain is dialed

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<v Speaker 6>in that way?

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<v Speaker 3>Ye Were you always that, I mean even when we

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<v Speaker 3>were you know, when you were younger, Did you have

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<v Speaker 3>trouble remembering you know, earlier in your life or was

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<v Speaker 3>this something that was happening more later.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't remember, will I think I didn't. I think

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<v Speaker 4>I was. When I was.

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<v Speaker 6>Closer to it, it was fresher, But then just I've

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<v Speaker 6>got so like lightning speed on every front in my

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<v Speaker 6>world that I think, you know, I always say I

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<v Speaker 6>don't have enough gigabytes for that, Like I just feel

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<v Speaker 6>like it's really crowded in there with that that I

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<v Speaker 6>don't need to remember and things that I do need

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<v Speaker 6>to remember, like what time my interview is with you guys.

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<v Speaker 5>Too, Right, Yeah, totally totally understand. You're just coming off

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<v Speaker 5>of the I Choose Me tour with a big blowout

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<v Speaker 5>in Los Angeles, a second annual live women's empowerment event,

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<v Speaker 5>and just some of the guests who were there, Naomi Watts,

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<v Speaker 5>Amanda Klutes, Sarah Shahi, Valshchmurkowsky who heard that women were

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<v Speaker 5>going to be there and showed up. This was a

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<v Speaker 5>massive undertaking. How did it go and did you have

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<v Speaker 5>a nervous breakdown?

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<v Speaker 4>I think it was amazing. Last year we did it.

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<v Speaker 6>We had an incredible slew of guests last year, one

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<v Speaker 6>of them being Nest Naomi Watts, and then this year

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<v Speaker 6>we had Bozema, Saint John all the way to Valschmarkowsky,

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<v Speaker 6>Tyler Merritt, just some really and then of course my

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<v Speaker 6>beautiful friend doctor Daniel Aman who's the neuroscientist about brain health.

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<v Speaker 6>He came and just really kind of dropped the mic

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<v Speaker 6>and gave everybody in the room some really serious things

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<v Speaker 6>to start thinking about as far as longevity and taking

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<v Speaker 6>care of our brain. So I loved having him there.

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<v Speaker 4>But it is this.

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<v Speaker 6>Weird like I build for it all year and then

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<v Speaker 6>all of a sudden, it's a week away and everybody's

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<v Speaker 6>panicking and we don't have the cups and where's the backdrop,

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<v Speaker 6>and who's gonna be clout? Like it's a it's all

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<v Speaker 6>hands on deck for a good solid two weeks probably,

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<v Speaker 6>But it went off without a hitch, incredible, Like I

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<v Speaker 6>heart helps me produce it on the ground, so it

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<v Speaker 6>goes off like you know, jingle ball or some like miraculous.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know what happens, but and I feel like

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<v Speaker 6>the women in the room, it was a very like

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<v Speaker 6>we all felt like we were absorbing good things, positive messages.

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<v Speaker 6>And I feel like everybody who was there was there

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<v Speaker 6>till the last minute, like listening and just taking it

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<v Speaker 6>in and enjoying that. The camaraderie between the women, everybody

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<v Speaker 6>kind of like minded looking for something what's next or

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<v Speaker 6>how do I you know, prioritize myself. So it's just

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<v Speaker 6>a great day of really important messages and people sharing

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<v Speaker 6>their stories. Like you, you know, when we share our stories.

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<v Speaker 6>I've certainly found like when I share my story, whether

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<v Speaker 6>it was talking about the book or things in the

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<v Speaker 6>book or whatever, I've always been very sharing, well not

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<v Speaker 6>always but recently. But that's the thing. When we share

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<v Speaker 6>our stories, we kind of have that moment of like, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm I'm That's how I'm dealing too, and now I'm

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<v Speaker 6>like a little less alone. Maybe I should talk a

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<v Speaker 6>little bit more openly about it. So it really it's

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<v Speaker 6>just about my goal with doing the whole thing. I

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<v Speaker 6>don't need to make one single dollar. I just like

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<v Speaker 6>helping people. And that's the event that I feel like

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<v Speaker 6>it has a lot of impact because we're together in

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<v Speaker 6>the room and it's all like planned for that for

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<v Speaker 6>you to leave with something tangible that you can take

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<v Speaker 6>into your life.

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<v Speaker 5>Is there anything you can share with us from your

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<v Speaker 5>doctor friend? What's one brain health song we should be doing?

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<v Speaker 6>But well, doctor and doctor Daniel Aman really did change

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<v Speaker 6>how I thought of my brain health. I didn't think

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<v Speaker 6>of my brain health before I saw him. I thought

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<v Speaker 6>that I had a damaged brain. I thought, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>maybe I'm going slipping into some unwonted territory with my brain.

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<v Speaker 6>And he was able to do a spec scan and

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<v Speaker 6>look at my actual brain organ and from there, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I've I've struggled with depression and anxiety my whole life

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<v Speaker 6>since I was a teenager, and been on medications and

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<v Speaker 6>on and off them, on and off them, and never

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<v Speaker 6>you know, really struggling to find the right cocktail, if

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<v Speaker 6>you will. And he was like, why would you why

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<v Speaker 6>would a psychiatrists just give medication to a brain without

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<v Speaker 6>looking at it, Like if you are going to the

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<v Speaker 6>heart doctor and you you know, they need to look

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<v Speaker 6>at your brain, give you an ultrasound and see where

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<v Speaker 6>you're clogged in order to know how to proceed taking

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<v Speaker 6>care of it. So that's kind of his whole passion

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<v Speaker 6>about the brain is actually looking at it on a

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<v Speaker 6>spec scan and he can see like areas of the

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<v Speaker 6>brain of that are more active and less active. So

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<v Speaker 6>there's incredible activity over here, which is kind of sucking

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<v Speaker 6>all the activity from over here.

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<v Speaker 4>And that is where we.

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<v Speaker 6>Find a lot of imbalances as far as how to

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<v Speaker 6>emotionally regulate, how to handle like if you're an introvert,

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<v Speaker 6>how to handle situations where it's required for you to

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<v Speaker 6>be an extrovert, Stress, anxiety, all those things, especially when

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<v Speaker 6>you are sort of thrust into the to the spotlight.

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<v Speaker 6>And I can only speak from my situation put you know,

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<v Speaker 6>from the farm to like being that kind of globally famous,

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<v Speaker 6>it has a very strong effect on certain synapses in

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<v Speaker 6>your brain. I never would have thought about this like

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<v Speaker 6>he has. He studied the brains of Justin Bieber and

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<v Speaker 6>Miley Cyrus, like the biggest superstars on the planet, and

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<v Speaker 6>can see significant areas that are overactive and significant areas

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<v Speaker 6>that are underactive, and it explains so much about the

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<v Speaker 6>things they are struggling with in their lives. So his

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<v Speaker 6>work is really fascinating and I've learned a lot, but

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<v Speaker 6>like one of the most important things I learned straight

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<v Speaker 6>away was you have He's told me you have a

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<v Speaker 6>beautiful brain.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, OK, you have two concussions. I can

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<v Speaker 4>see two dense from let's figure out where those came from.

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<v Speaker 6>So we were able to kind of like pinpoint things

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<v Speaker 6>in my life. And then he said, and the best

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<v Speaker 6>part is you can improve your brain health, like it's

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<v Speaker 6>not This isn't just one way ticket to you're going

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<v Speaker 6>to be slobbering in the corner. You can actually be

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<v Speaker 6>super proactive about taking care of your brain.

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<v Speaker 4>So all of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>He's got great books too that are just like easy

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<v Speaker 6>to understand, which was shocking.

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<v Speaker 3>About saying taking care of your brain? Is it something?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it more cognitive stuff like it it's exercises you do,

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<v Speaker 3>or is it medication?

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<v Speaker 6>Well both, it can be both. He likes to start

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<v Speaker 6>with supplementation before he goes onto medication. For some people

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<v Speaker 6>just need medicine. I happen to be one of those people,

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<v Speaker 6>So I bu combo of supplements and medications, and it's

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<v Speaker 6>just about keeping that balance, you know, and maybe you know,

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<v Speaker 6>making sure you're regularly checking in on how your medication

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<v Speaker 6>is working for you because things change, you know. But

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<v Speaker 6>also just like moving your body is the number one

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<v Speaker 6>thing you can do from a brain. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 6>think we're all starting to get these messages now, so

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<v Speaker 6>it's not talking, but like just going on a walk

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<v Speaker 6>every day is not only good for how you feel

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<v Speaker 6>and your physical being, but it's also good for your

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<v Speaker 6>brain health. You know. He talks a lot about no alcohol.

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<v Speaker 6>I stopped drinking because it's that important to me. And

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<v Speaker 6>there's you know, other things that he talks about that

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<v Speaker 6>you can do as well. Supplementation was a great place

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<v Speaker 6>to start as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, the pictures that you had taken of your brain,

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<v Speaker 3>is it like a regular MRI machine where you have

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<v Speaker 3>to go into the tunnel of doom.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's a little bit of a different tunnel of doom.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. I don't know what it is, but it's it

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<v Speaker 6>is kind of like that. It's quicker than an MRI, okay,

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<v Speaker 6>and it's not noisy.

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<v Speaker 4>It's much easier.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's the really bad part about it is spec

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<v Speaker 6>scans aren't covered under insurance. Of course, if you you know,

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<v Speaker 6>if you're really struggling with addiction or with depression anxiety,

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<v Speaker 6>memory issues, which I was. It was memory issues and

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<v Speaker 6>that depression anxiety I was trying to figure out. When

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<v Speaker 6>I went to him, it was worth it to me

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<v Speaker 6>to have some answers that I could build upon to

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<v Speaker 6>like figure things out moving forward.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've done that. I've done the scans the MRI,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's like my doctor's like, now you just have

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<v Speaker 3>to You're fine unless you deal with you know, in

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<v Speaker 3>closed spaces or rhythmic banging, and I'm like, those are

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<v Speaker 3>two of my triggers. So this, yeah, that's gonna be great.

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<v Speaker 3>So okay, gotcha.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, do you have a dream guest for an I

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<v Speaker 5>choose me event?

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<v Speaker 4>An event I've Actually I just saw Tiffany Hattish on

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<v Speaker 4>What's the show where they take them out into the

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<v Speaker 4>wilderness with.

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<v Speaker 5>Bear oh good guy, air grills.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I just saw her.

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<v Speaker 6>Doing that on my TV last night, and I just

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<v Speaker 6>loved her attitude and I love the way she's like

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<v Speaker 6>it seems like she parents herself, like she knows how

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<v Speaker 6>to really take care of like her little self inside

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<v Speaker 6>of her. And I'm her very inspirational. I would love

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<v Speaker 6>to have her on.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, good, Well, let's get into your origin story a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit. You grew up on a horse ranch with

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<v Speaker 5>seven siblings. Were you guys filming little House on the prairie.

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<v Speaker 6>No, it was only me and three of my sisters

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<v Speaker 6>that lived on the farm.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, everybody would come over on fourth of July and.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, okay, but only four of you lived there all

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<v Speaker 5>the time.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, my four half sisters and then my others are

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<v Speaker 6>also half sisters, and brothers. So it's kind of like

0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:39.639
<v Speaker 6>his hers and mine family, and I'm the mine, so

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<v Speaker 6>I'm like Oliver. I kind of like to call my Oliver.

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<v Speaker 6>I really like that at all from the Brady Bunch.

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<v Speaker 6>But yeah, it was like we garden, We grew our

0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:56.040
<v Speaker 6>own vegetables, and my my toys were animals, you know.

0:23:56.200 --> 0:23:58.479
<v Speaker 4>My friends were My best friends were my horse and

0:23:58.520 --> 0:23:59.800
<v Speaker 4>my dirt bike.

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<v Speaker 6>So it's a pretty idyllic way to grow up in

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<v Speaker 6>the middle of like cornfields in the Midwest. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 6>wish I could go back to it, quite honestly, I.

0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:15.320
<v Speaker 5>Mean, yeah, yeah, I bet. And eventually in Arizona, you

0:24:15.400 --> 0:24:18.800
<v Speaker 5>were discovered by a Hollywood scout, which is how most

0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:21.960
<v Speaker 5>people are scammed. To be honest in your case, though

0:24:21.960 --> 0:24:24.680
<v Speaker 5>this is actually real. How did your parents react when

0:24:24.800 --> 0:24:27.000
<v Speaker 5>this guy said that you should be in la because

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<v Speaker 5>you look like you should be a star.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, he was actually doing a favor for a friend

0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:33.760
<v Speaker 6>of his. He was filling in as a judge at

0:24:33.760 --> 0:24:37.879
<v Speaker 6>this tiny little pageant, which I had gotten coerced into

0:24:37.880 --> 0:24:40.560
<v Speaker 6>doing by my mom to try to get a scholarship

0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:43.159
<v Speaker 6>for to go to school to become a dance teacher.

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<v Speaker 6>So when I thought I was too, and this guy

0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:50.200
<v Speaker 6>was there and he looked very fancy, but he also

0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:52.439
<v Speaker 6>had his wife with him, which kind of give him

0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:53.560
<v Speaker 6>give him a little more.

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<v Speaker 4>Credit, I thought, exactly, credibility of a creep.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And he was coming off b the head of

0:25:00.680 --> 0:25:04.000
<v Speaker 6>casting for ABC, and he had just moved to LA

0:25:04.160 --> 0:25:07.680
<v Speaker 6>to open up his own management firm. And he said,

0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:10.760
<v Speaker 6>you know, read this scene. Here's some sides. Let's meet

0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:13.160
<v Speaker 6>over the buffet breakfast tomorrow and you can read these

0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:17.359
<v Speaker 6>with my wife. And from there they said, yeah, there's

0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:20.840
<v Speaker 6>something about you. We think you should look into it,

0:25:20.880 --> 0:25:23.119
<v Speaker 6>like you should start studying acting or doing it in

0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:26.520
<v Speaker 6>school or something. So I started taking acting lessons and

0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:29.440
<v Speaker 6>mailing him the VHS.

0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:30.480
<v Speaker 4>Tapes that we look forward.

0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:33.200
<v Speaker 6>He would get them and then he would watch them,

0:25:33.240 --> 0:25:35.520
<v Speaker 6>and then he would send back his notes. So it

0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:37.800
<v Speaker 6>was a lot of process of that until he thought, well,

0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:39.879
<v Speaker 6>I think, you know, why don't you come out for

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<v Speaker 6>this pilot season.

0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:41.400
<v Speaker 4>Give it a try.

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<v Speaker 6>So my mom and I drove out from Arizona to

0:25:44.600 --> 0:25:47.880
<v Speaker 6>LA and got a little apartment and got our Thomas

0:25:47.880 --> 0:25:51.240
<v Speaker 6>Guide out and found our audition points.

0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:52.200
<v Speaker 4>Every day.

0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:55.119
<v Speaker 6>That was that, you know, I just kind of really

0:25:55.240 --> 0:25:57.320
<v Speaker 6>interestingly rolled right into it.

0:25:57.840 --> 0:26:00.280
<v Speaker 3>Are you were you a regular apartment kid or were

0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:02.000
<v Speaker 3>you a Oakwood apartment kid?

0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:03.040
<v Speaker 4>No?

0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:05.159
<v Speaker 6>No, I never stayed at Oakwood. My kids went to

0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:09.920
<v Speaker 6>Oakwood School, which is a whole nother situation, but oak

0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:12.600
<v Speaker 6>Wood apartments. No, I had, like I think it was

0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:14.720
<v Speaker 6>on Cold Cold Water Canyon right by the A M

0:26:14.800 --> 0:26:15.119
<v Speaker 6>p M.

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<v Speaker 4>There.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, So when do you have the nine O two

0:26:21.320 --> 0:26:24.800
<v Speaker 5>one O audition? Where does that fall in your journey

0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:27.399
<v Speaker 5>to La Gosh?

0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:30.200
<v Speaker 6>I want to say not that long after I think

0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:33.280
<v Speaker 6>I got I got. My first job was on a

0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:38.960
<v Speaker 6>Disney movie called Teen Angel, which also starts uh huh

0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:42.560
<v Speaker 6>that's where we first met. And then I did an

0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:46.320
<v Speaker 6>episode of Growing Pains rahap one line, three words, one line,

0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:50.080
<v Speaker 6>and then I did I got to star as Barbara

0:26:50.240 --> 0:26:53.399
<v Speaker 6>Eden's daughter in a short lived show that she did

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:58.600
<v Speaker 6>with Don Murray. And I mean, yeah, so I was

0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:01.720
<v Speaker 6>just like every day at work, just jaw on the

0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 6>floor watching these professionals work and how they, you know,

0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:09.840
<v Speaker 6>handled the set and the crew. And I learned so much,

0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:12.960
<v Speaker 6>like from the real pros of the industry.

0:27:12.480 --> 0:27:13.280
<v Speaker 4>On that show.

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:16.479
<v Speaker 6>And then nine on two and okame like it just

0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:20.439
<v Speaker 6>there was a it was pilot season and I had

0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:24.240
<v Speaker 6>the opportunity to audition for one show and then another show.

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:25.440
<v Speaker 4>Had to pick one though.

0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:29.240
<v Speaker 6>One was Kenny Ortega, something about dancing in a school.

0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:30.879
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. It wasn't high.

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:34.960
<v Speaker 6>School music, like high school mus school. And then the

0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:37.840
<v Speaker 6>other one was a teen drama set in Beverly Hills

0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:40.640
<v Speaker 6>and it was produced by Aaron Spelling, and I thought, well,

0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:43.280
<v Speaker 6>I always loved Aaron Spelling shows. I would love to

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:46.040
<v Speaker 6>get in front of him. That would be amazing, just

0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:49.119
<v Speaker 6>because he's looking it be so cool, and so I

0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:50.120
<v Speaker 6>opted to do that one.

0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:51.959
<v Speaker 3>But way, you wanted to be a dancer, and it

0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:52.919
<v Speaker 3>was Kenny or Tega.

0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:53.720
<v Speaker 4>I know.

0:27:54.119 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 6>That was the hardest part of it. I realized though,

0:27:57.040 --> 0:27:59.560
<v Speaker 6>at my at my in my pageant moment when I

0:27:59.600 --> 0:28:01.440
<v Speaker 6>met Andy, my manager.

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:03.159
<v Speaker 4>Who's still to my manager to this day.

0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:07.199
<v Speaker 6>By the way, Wow wow wow, Yeah, we've been together

0:28:07.280 --> 0:28:08.480
<v Speaker 6>for forty years.

0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:14.920
<v Speaker 4>I realized I wasn't a very good dancer. So didn't

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:16.160
<v Speaker 4>take the crown on that one.

0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:19.719
<v Speaker 5>So funny, and yet you wanted to be a dance teacher.

0:28:20.280 --> 0:28:20.879
<v Speaker 3>That's what you know.

0:28:20.960 --> 0:28:26.320
<v Speaker 5>If you can't do it, Yeah, exactly, Wow, I mean

0:28:26.400 --> 0:28:28.560
<v Speaker 5>so much of Beverly Hills nine two one zero was

0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:33.119
<v Speaker 5>this chic, gorgeous cast, possibly the best looking cast ever assembled.

0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:36.520
<v Speaker 5>And in your book you talk at length about the

0:28:36.520 --> 0:28:40.600
<v Speaker 5>public scrutiny you faced about your public appearance and the

0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:45.120
<v Speaker 5>constant comparisons made between all of you. We have talked

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:49.920
<v Speaker 5>a lot about this on our podcast, especially about the

0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:54.240
<v Speaker 5>nineties in Body Image. How do you reconcile all of

0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 5>that now? How do you look back on it?

0:28:57.160 --> 0:28:59.200
<v Speaker 6>I look back on it like who the hell is

0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:02.400
<v Speaker 6>protecting us? Like, yeah, you know, there was nobody was

0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 6>having conversations around how to protect the young people that

0:29:08.360 --> 0:29:10.160
<v Speaker 6>were working in the industry from from.

0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:15.560
<v Speaker 4>Those kinds of you know, like just minefields.

0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:17.880
<v Speaker 6>You know, it was some constant minefield, and there was

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:22.160
<v Speaker 6>the sets were so loose and like everything goes, whatever

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:26.200
<v Speaker 6>happens happens, and nobody complains about anything. If you complain,

0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:30.240
<v Speaker 6>you're uptight or say something you're up you know, so like, yes,

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 6>you just learned to swim, you know, in in infested waters,

0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:39.320
<v Speaker 6>and that's what I that's what I look back on.

0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:42.640
<v Speaker 6>That time also very fun. I had a lot of fun.

0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:48.160
<v Speaker 4>It was really crazy and like go, you know, going.

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:50.960
<v Speaker 6>To appearances, and being mobbed and like, what why do

0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 6>these people want to get at me?

0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 4>Like, I get it.

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:56.320
<v Speaker 6>They liked the show, but I didn't really understand it

0:29:56.920 --> 0:30:01.560
<v Speaker 6>until I started doing the OMG recap show. We do

0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:04.320
<v Speaker 6>a podcast for that, and I had to watch the

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:07.640
<v Speaker 6>show from the very first episode to where we're still

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:08.240
<v Speaker 6>in that show.

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 4>By the way, we're in season eight. Mek it up.

0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:19.440
<v Speaker 6>But now, like, what a show I ask a viewer.

0:30:19.480 --> 0:30:21.320
<v Speaker 6>Now I'm a super fan, and of course I want

0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:22.840
<v Speaker 6>to watch it every week. I want to know what's

0:30:22.880 --> 0:30:25.240
<v Speaker 6>going to happen to these characters that I've now spent

0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:29.239
<v Speaker 6>eight years growing up with. So I get it, and

0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:32.160
<v Speaker 6>now it makes so much more sense. But being in

0:30:32.240 --> 0:30:34.400
<v Speaker 6>it was a completely different story.

0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah right, Well, I mean I remember growing up watching

0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:40.200
<v Speaker 3>that show and starting at the beginning, and it was

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:44.800
<v Speaker 3>distinctly a soap opera for me, Like, you know, that's

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:46.479
<v Speaker 3>that's what it came off as. Is it came off

0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 3>as like, first of all, it's set in this mythical

0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:51.240
<v Speaker 3>land of Beverly Hills, and as a kid from Connecticut,

0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:53.440
<v Speaker 3>it was like, oh my god, this is the greatest

0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:58.160
<v Speaker 3>thing in the world. And then of course everybody's stunning,

0:30:57.120 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 3>the Porsche and all that. It was just it was,

0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:01.560
<v Speaker 3>it was. It was lolla.

0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:02.600
<v Speaker 1>It was crazy.

0:31:02.640 --> 0:31:05.080
<v Speaker 6>Nobody had seen what Beverly Hills looked like at that time.

0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 6>You didn't live in Beverly Hills and weren't bread and

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:11.560
<v Speaker 6>grown grown up, but the world wanted to know what

0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:15.160
<v Speaker 6>it looked like. And that was one of the biggest

0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:17.720
<v Speaker 6>the greatest parts of that show was just opening up.

0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:21.160
<v Speaker 6>I mean, it made that zip code famous, but you

0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 6>know that all proceeded as like social media happened.

0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:27.040
<v Speaker 4>Now I look famous, but that one just.

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 6>Really what people attached to their their hearts, their childhoods,

0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:35.880
<v Speaker 6>their teenage years, their years had such an impact and

0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 6>I get it now, Like I love the show. I

0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:41.360
<v Speaker 6>always loved the show and I love on.

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 3>It, but sure, but it did it made it made

0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:47.680
<v Speaker 3>all other high schools suck because you were You're like

0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:49.440
<v Speaker 3>sitting like, man, my high school is not like nine

0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:51.160
<v Speaker 3>o two and oh at all, Like what the hell?

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 6>No?

0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:53.880
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it was. It was. It was literally a

0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 3>cultural phenomenon. I mean it was also I remember it

0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:58.200
<v Speaker 3>was was a merch machine. I mean I had friends

0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:00.960
<v Speaker 3>that had like the girls had nine sheets and it

0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:03.560
<v Speaker 3>was like everywhere was everywhere.

0:32:03.200 --> 0:32:05.600
<v Speaker 4>It was everywhere. We Yeah, that's.

0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:08.400
<v Speaker 6>Unfortunate for the cast because that was before we had

0:32:08.400 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 6>to participate in any kind of benefits from that. So

0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:16.360
<v Speaker 6>if you're sleeping on my face right now, Orne's face

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 6>on your pillowcase, and yeah, we didn't get anything from

0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:23.840
<v Speaker 6>that stun, it was still worth it. You know, there

0:32:23.920 --> 0:32:26.440
<v Speaker 6>was a lot of systems that weren't in place in

0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:31.280
<v Speaker 6>the early nineties as far as episodic residuals. All that

0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:35.160
<v Speaker 6>stuff wasn't happening yet, so we we learned after the math.

0:32:35.880 --> 0:32:38.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, did you enjoy it as an actor? I mean,

0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 2>were you excited? Because I mean I remember looking at

0:32:40.360 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 2>that show and going, oh, these guys get to do

0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:46.480
<v Speaker 2>some really meaty, dramatic fun stuff. Yeah, you get to act.

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean we were on a comedy show.

0:32:48.840 --> 0:32:51.400
<v Speaker 2>You know, there's we also got opportunities because our show

0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:54.560
<v Speaker 2>was was better than a lot of others. But I mean,

0:32:54.600 --> 0:32:55.959
<v Speaker 2>I always wanted to be on a nine O two

0:32:56.000 --> 0:32:57.680
<v Speaker 2>one oh style show. So were you enjoying?

0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:01.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you love. I didn't know.

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:04.920
<v Speaker 6>I had never met a girl from Beverly Hills except Tory.

0:33:05.080 --> 0:33:07.920
<v Speaker 6>I had never been like I went to Beverly Hills

0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 6>once as a tourist.

0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:11.360
<v Speaker 4>I never drove a.

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 6>BMW, like I had no idea about this world that

0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:17.000
<v Speaker 6>I was all of a sudden portraying. And then you know,

0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:21.560
<v Speaker 6>as it went on, I think the writers got to

0:33:21.640 --> 0:33:26.600
<v Speaker 6>know where sort of like my abilities, what was my path,

0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:28.600
<v Speaker 6>what was my lane? And they really wrote to that,

0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:32.240
<v Speaker 6>so I ended up getting When I was a little girl,

0:33:32.280 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 6>I was called Puddles. That was my nickname. I cried

0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:37.600
<v Speaker 6>a lot, like I'm gonna talk about it in my book.

0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:39.440
<v Speaker 6>I say, you know, I talk a lot about women

0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:42.760
<v Speaker 6>expressing their emotions and not losing their voices. And I say,

0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 6>when I was younger, my nickname was Puddles, and people

0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:47.880
<v Speaker 6>would make fun of me for my emotions. As I

0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:51.080
<v Speaker 6>got older, I heard, oh, you know, your emotions are

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:54.640
<v Speaker 6>too much, or like you know, just peoples of saying

0:33:54.680 --> 0:33:56.800
<v Speaker 6>you're too emotional. And then now I've turned it into

0:33:56.840 --> 0:34:00.760
<v Speaker 6>I'm emotion full and I consider it what greatest superpowers.

0:34:00.800 --> 0:34:04.920
<v Speaker 6>So going to the show that like deep well of emotions,

0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:07.720
<v Speaker 6>that I was always ready right there, always like wore

0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:11.680
<v Speaker 6>my emotions on my sleeve. Really I was able to

0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:15.640
<v Speaker 6>showcase like all my dramatic acting moments so they ended

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 6>up putting Kelly all those dramatic moments. I mean it

0:34:18.560 --> 0:34:20.440
<v Speaker 6>got spread out as the show went on, but like

0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:24.479
<v Speaker 6>she was shot and burned and stocked, and I can't

0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:26.960
<v Speaker 6>even remember all the things, like so many things. Every

0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:30.400
<v Speaker 6>episode felt like an after school special was really getting

0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:34.359
<v Speaker 6>you know, something bad happened, happening to her. So I

0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:38.319
<v Speaker 6>actually loved it though, because I had never gone to

0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:42.359
<v Speaker 6>you know, acting school or or like, you know, I

0:34:42.400 --> 0:34:45.719
<v Speaker 6>wasn't trained. I was just a person there showing up,

0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:49.640
<v Speaker 6>getting the script and thinking if I was this character,

0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:52.279
<v Speaker 6>how would I portray her, how would it come out

0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:53.360
<v Speaker 6>of me? How would it feel?

0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:55.080
<v Speaker 4>And I love that feeling.

0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:57.719
<v Speaker 6>I think I loved it most because I got to

0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:02.040
<v Speaker 6>step out of my like confus losing shoes of my

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:05.880
<v Speaker 6>personal person and into this make believe world where I

0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:08.400
<v Speaker 6>knew at the end of the scene somebody would call

0:35:08.440 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 6>it cut and I wouldn't have to feel those things anymore.

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:15.560
<v Speaker 6>And so that became a beautiful like way to disassociate

0:35:15.600 --> 0:35:18.680
<v Speaker 6>from reality. But at the same time, as an actress,

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:22.280
<v Speaker 6>it was so meaty all the time. I loved it.

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:25.680
<v Speaker 5>It's so crazy. I remember kind of like a big

0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:28.880
<v Speaker 5>joke about the show. Maybe the SNL hook was that

0:35:28.880 --> 0:35:31.520
<v Speaker 5>the majority of the cast was too old to actually

0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:34.560
<v Speaker 5>be in high school. Was that a joke you guys

0:35:34.640 --> 0:35:37.759
<v Speaker 5>also made behind the scenes. Was that something you guys

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:40.240
<v Speaker 5>were talking about the minute the show skyrocketed.

0:35:41.280 --> 0:35:43.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well actually it was hidden.

0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:45.680
<v Speaker 6>Like the people that were older on the cast didn't

0:35:45.760 --> 0:35:46.920
<v Speaker 6>joke about it, and.

0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:49.279
<v Speaker 5>You don't want to didn't want to talk about it.

0:35:49.480 --> 0:35:52.480
<v Speaker 6>They didn't want to lose their jobs, have any reason

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:54.880
<v Speaker 6>for the producers to look at them and say, oh,

0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:58.920
<v Speaker 6>she does look older, Like, for instance, Gabrielle Carteris was.

0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:03.120
<v Speaker 4>Older. She was probably older than all of us.

0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:06.120
<v Speaker 6>For sure, Ian was older than all of us, older

0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:10.640
<v Speaker 6>than his character Jason was older than his character Gabrielle.

0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:13.520
<v Speaker 3>Though, became like when that came out and quote unquote

0:36:13.520 --> 0:36:16.120
<v Speaker 3>came out, it became it was so ridiculous where you

0:36:16.160 --> 0:36:18.800
<v Speaker 3>would hear things like, you know, she's playing a high schooler.

0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:24.839
<v Speaker 3>She's forty seven years eight, Okay, still not usually what

0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:25.800
<v Speaker 3>twenty four.

0:36:26.520 --> 0:36:29.040
<v Speaker 4>That she was probably I think twenty six.

0:36:29.000 --> 0:36:30.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah exactly, And it was that's all you heard, though,

0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:33.200
<v Speaker 3>like she's sixty two years.

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:35.439
<v Speaker 4>I mean, she's no play twelve years old?

0:36:36.760 --> 0:36:39.640
<v Speaker 3>Right, were you were you close as a cast right

0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:42.200
<v Speaker 3>away or because it's I mean, it seems like it's

0:36:42.239 --> 0:36:45.560
<v Speaker 3>different when you're shooting a single camera show, where you

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:47.200
<v Speaker 3>might have days where you don't see some of your

0:36:47.239 --> 0:36:49.440
<v Speaker 3>fellow actors. You know, hey, we're shooting these scenes today,

0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:51.879
<v Speaker 3>we know, whereas we were always together, you know, we're

0:36:51.960 --> 0:36:54.239
<v Speaker 3>kind of we're rehearsing every day. So I mean, were

0:36:54.280 --> 0:36:56.359
<v Speaker 3>you close right away or did it take a while

0:36:56.400 --> 0:36:57.480
<v Speaker 3>for everybody to kind of gell?

0:36:57.920 --> 0:37:01.839
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we were close instantly, like we were you know

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:04.480
<v Speaker 6>what it was single camera would show My gosh, can

0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:07.280
<v Speaker 6>you remember back in those days how it took to make.

0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:09.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're shooting a movie every day for ten years

0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:10.400
<v Speaker 3>of exactly.

0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:14.280
<v Speaker 6>So it was we were most often all there together

0:37:14.360 --> 0:37:17.440
<v Speaker 6>every day because what if they needed to reschedule something,

0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:20.760
<v Speaker 6>they would just keep us in our dressing room alley

0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:24.560
<v Speaker 6>and you would just be at their disposal from six

0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:28.600
<v Speaker 6>am to eight pm, you know. Yeah, And we were

0:37:28.640 --> 0:37:30.680
<v Speaker 6>always together. And that was a whole small way, and

0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:34.440
<v Speaker 6>all of our dressing rooms were off the small hallway.

0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:39.120
<v Speaker 6>And it was in the sound stage in Van Uys, California,

0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:43.000
<v Speaker 6>like by the railroad tracks and a porn studio we

0:37:43.120 --> 0:37:46.080
<v Speaker 6>had there were we had no commissary to go meet

0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:48.400
<v Speaker 6>anybody else in or anything lost us.

0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:49.560
<v Speaker 4>They would bring us lunch.

0:37:50.239 --> 0:37:52.839
<v Speaker 6>We wouldn't get out of there until it was dark like,

0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:56.440
<v Speaker 6>so it was all consuming for for you know, it

0:37:56.480 --> 0:37:58.600
<v Speaker 6>got better as the years ago went on, because they

0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:00.960
<v Speaker 6>got better at scheduling and right being to the characters

0:38:01.000 --> 0:38:03.719
<v Speaker 6>to try to kind of give some people some time.

0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:07.440
<v Speaker 4>Away from set. But it was we were together a lot,

0:38:07.840 --> 0:38:08.920
<v Speaker 4>and we were young.

0:38:09.160 --> 0:38:10.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I was gonna say, were you all over eighteen?

0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:12.640
<v Speaker 3>Was there set school or.

0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:17.239
<v Speaker 4>Cory and Brian were underage, so they were they went

0:38:17.280 --> 0:38:18.680
<v Speaker 4>to school, Okay?

0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 6>On set, I was emancipated in order in order to

0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:25.520
<v Speaker 6>do that show. I got emancipated so that I wouldn't

0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:27.799
<v Speaker 6>have to There was not a lot of time for

0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:29.759
<v Speaker 6>the I don't know, it was like something that forts

0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:31.680
<v Speaker 6>me to do. I got emancipated, my parents let me

0:38:31.680 --> 0:38:35.840
<v Speaker 6>do it, and then the bing I was an adult

0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:38.320
<v Speaker 6>responsible things.

0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:42.480
<v Speaker 5>Well, one of the things you mentioned, you guys spending

0:38:42.480 --> 0:38:44.759
<v Speaker 5>a lot of time together, that was another aspect. That

0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 5>was a lot of water cooler tabloidy talk. I think

0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:50.279
<v Speaker 5>it was the first time I remember hearing about how

0:38:50.320 --> 0:38:53.319
<v Speaker 5>a young cast was clashing, and a lot of that

0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:57.000
<v Speaker 5>focused on how Shannon was a prima donna. How did

0:38:57.000 --> 0:39:00.319
<v Speaker 5>you guys navigate that kind of tabloid talk while you

0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:02.879
<v Speaker 5>were on set, especially since I'm sure most of it

0:39:02.920 --> 0:39:05.040
<v Speaker 5>was probably extremely exaggerated.

0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:09.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, thank goodness, there was no social media then. Yeah,

0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:11.319
<v Speaker 4>you know, so you had a wait for those papers to.

0:39:11.239 --> 0:39:16.000
<v Speaker 6>Come out and print. I think that we were all young.

0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:20.600
<v Speaker 6>I always because I made mistakes, Other people made mistakes.

0:39:21.239 --> 0:39:24.480
<v Speaker 4>We were young. We were going up under unusual.

0:39:23.960 --> 0:39:31.359
<v Speaker 6>Circumstances, high stress environment, highly competitive, no stability whatsoever, And

0:39:32.800 --> 0:39:37.040
<v Speaker 6>anything that happened during those times has long been forgiven

0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:37.960
<v Speaker 6>by any of us.

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:38.919
<v Speaker 4>I would imagine.

0:39:39.239 --> 0:39:42.880
<v Speaker 6>I can't speak for other people, but for myself, Like, yeah,

0:39:43.000 --> 0:39:46.560
<v Speaker 6>stuff went down, Like it wasn't always fun and great

0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:50.520
<v Speaker 6>all the time, but it was part of the process

0:39:50.600 --> 0:39:54.080
<v Speaker 6>of being in this situation the way we were. And

0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:57.239
<v Speaker 6>I don't think, you know, there's no love lost. We all,

0:39:57.320 --> 0:39:59.120
<v Speaker 6>at the end of the day have the greatest love

0:39:59.160 --> 0:40:02.320
<v Speaker 6>for one another, like this invisible string that connects us.

0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:05.000
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, it was hard to navigate.

0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:08.800
<v Speaker 6>In the moment because we were not equipped to handle

0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:13.279
<v Speaker 6>those kinds of complex relationships and the behaviors that went

0:40:13.360 --> 0:40:17.200
<v Speaker 6>on because of the you know, not being developed completely

0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 6>right abilities, so a lot it was hard to navigate.

0:40:21.080 --> 0:40:23.439
<v Speaker 6>And I write about a little bit of it in

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:26.200
<v Speaker 6>my book, but I don't, you know, there's still things

0:40:26.200 --> 0:40:27.400
<v Speaker 6>that I didn't write about that.

0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:30.680
<v Speaker 4>It's interesting once you open.

0:40:30.560 --> 0:40:32.720
<v Speaker 6>The door and you start to like look into your past,

0:40:33.239 --> 0:40:35.400
<v Speaker 6>then like you can't help but see, oh there's a

0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:37.040
<v Speaker 6>little more light. I'm going to open a door a

0:40:37.040 --> 0:40:40.000
<v Speaker 6>little bit more. So, even now after I've written the book,

0:40:40.040 --> 0:40:43.719
<v Speaker 6>I'm like, wait a second, that's thinking more about that

0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:47.239
<v Speaker 6>situation and then like, wow, the impact of that. You know,

0:40:47.320 --> 0:40:50.480
<v Speaker 6>it's an interesting journey to like look back air life

0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:50.719
<v Speaker 6>like that.

0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:55.080
<v Speaker 2>It's so interesting to me that, like the tabloids were

0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:57.920
<v Speaker 2>writing about you guys because like we had, of course

0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:01.680
<v Speaker 2>on set dynamics and drama, but nobody cared like for

0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:03.680
<v Speaker 2>whatever reason. I guess because we were a kids show.

0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:06.480
<v Speaker 2>And even though you guys were a teen show, for

0:41:06.520 --> 0:41:10.239
<v Speaker 2>some reason, you captured the imagination of the adult world too, And.

0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:13.120
<v Speaker 1>It's it's so interesting, and I guess it's because you guys.

0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:15.640
<v Speaker 2>Were so edgy, right, like you were dealing with you

0:41:15.680 --> 0:41:17.640
<v Speaker 2>were you were addressing teen issues in a way that

0:41:17.760 --> 0:41:20.160
<v Speaker 2>adults were also watching and sort of keeping up with.

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:23.239
<v Speaker 2>But it's it strikes me as really weird now because

0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:27.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't read about teenage actors nowadays, Like I don't

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:27.600
<v Speaker 2>know who does.

0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:29.120
<v Speaker 1>It's so weird that that you.

0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:30.920
<v Speaker 6>Don't do that, and I don't do that because we're

0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:33.520
<v Speaker 6>too old and there are too many famous people now,

0:41:33.800 --> 0:41:36.920
<v Speaker 6>so I can't keep up right, right, But you're I mean,

0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:37.520
<v Speaker 6>you're right.

0:41:37.400 --> 0:41:41.200
<v Speaker 4>Like I guess it just looked like sensational.

0:41:41.320 --> 0:41:46.719
<v Speaker 6>It looked fantastical and it's, you know, an untapped world

0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:50.759
<v Speaker 6>that nobody knew about. So and then it it you know,

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:55.560
<v Speaker 6>the writing pitted the characters against one another in a

0:41:55.600 --> 0:41:57.600
<v Speaker 6>lot of ways, and then that would eke out into

0:41:57.600 --> 0:42:00.960
<v Speaker 6>the audience, and then the viewers would attached to whoever

0:42:01.040 --> 0:42:05.520
<v Speaker 6>they wanted to, whose teams beyond whether they were Brenda

0:42:05.640 --> 0:42:08.680
<v Speaker 6>or Kelly or Dylan or Brandon or Brandon and Kelly

0:42:08.800 --> 0:42:12.960
<v Speaker 6>or Brandon, you know, just like a million different teams

0:42:12.960 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 6>to be on, which was really sad because that I

0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:19.799
<v Speaker 6>think was more damaging the way they fed it to

0:42:19.840 --> 0:42:23.280
<v Speaker 6>the audience, the viewers, and then the way the viewers

0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:25.719
<v Speaker 6>kind of like, still to this day have people who

0:42:25.840 --> 0:42:26.480
<v Speaker 6>hate me.

0:42:28.239 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 4>Like character another character's boyfriend.

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:32.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:42:32.560 --> 0:42:35.920
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'm always like and they actually call me words

0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:41.160
<v Speaker 6>like ugly words. I'm like, wow, Okay, if you need

0:42:41.200 --> 0:42:43.120
<v Speaker 6>me to explain it to you, I can, but just.

0:42:43.440 --> 0:42:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Job television show.

0:42:46.640 --> 0:42:49.360
<v Speaker 3>But I think you're right. You hear more quote unquote

0:42:49.400 --> 0:42:53.000
<v Speaker 3>drama happening on drama sets than you do on comedy sets. Yeah,

0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:55.880
<v Speaker 3>the drama is part of the show's the character, right,

0:42:56.440 --> 0:42:58.680
<v Speaker 3>people want to add that drama to the real life.

0:42:58.760 --> 0:43:01.160
<v Speaker 2>It's like a side effect of It's like, so you're

0:43:01.160 --> 0:43:04.080
<v Speaker 2>doing your job well, You're drawing them into your characters

0:43:04.120 --> 0:43:04.960
<v Speaker 2>so well.

0:43:04.880 --> 0:43:06.760
<v Speaker 1>That then they're gonna want to know more about the actors.

0:43:06.880 --> 0:43:09.399
<v Speaker 3>And it's like Danielle and I just heard this with

0:43:09.520 --> 0:43:11.919
<v Speaker 3>a lot of the professional wrestlers, where it's like if

0:43:11.960 --> 0:43:15.320
<v Speaker 3>you're a heel and you're so good at your jobs

0:43:15.360 --> 0:43:18.279
<v Speaker 3>as a bad wrestler, then they hate you in real

0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:20.600
<v Speaker 3>life as opposed to going like you're so good at

0:43:20.640 --> 0:43:23.600
<v Speaker 3>your job that I hate you in the most wonderful way.

0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:27.480
<v Speaker 3>It's more like you're an you're a villain because you're

0:43:27.520 --> 0:43:31.760
<v Speaker 3>good at what you do. So yeah, it's really strange

0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:33.680
<v Speaker 3>to watch it, but you would you'd hear about that

0:43:33.760 --> 0:43:35.640
<v Speaker 3>all the time. Well, you know, they're dating in real life,

0:43:35.719 --> 0:43:37.400
<v Speaker 3>or they got into a fight over this, But you

0:43:37.560 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 3>never heard about stuff like that happening on the set

0:43:39.520 --> 0:43:42.279
<v Speaker 3>of Elf, you know, you know what I mean. It

0:43:42.320 --> 0:43:45.239
<v Speaker 3>was like, because it's a comedy, nobody, nobody cared. They

0:43:45.280 --> 0:43:47.640
<v Speaker 3>kind of can just let that go where the drama

0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:50.600
<v Speaker 3>surrounding your lives had to really be part of the

0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:54.040
<v Speaker 3>drama surrounding what was going on, and it sold.

0:43:53.760 --> 0:43:56.640
<v Speaker 4>The show they want to perpetuated.

0:43:57.080 --> 0:43:59.120
<v Speaker 3>And then couple that with the fact that you've you've

0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:02.080
<v Speaker 3>completely broken the mold and you're in the zeitgeist everywhere.

0:44:02.080 --> 0:44:04.759
<v Speaker 3>I mean you are. You are pop culture in the

0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:06.200
<v Speaker 3>early nineties, nine o two, you know.

0:44:06.160 --> 0:44:06.600
<v Speaker 1>It's everywhere.

0:44:06.840 --> 0:44:10.000
<v Speaker 3>I'll never forget. It made the news in Connecticut when

0:44:10.120 --> 0:44:12.839
<v Speaker 3>Luke Perry went to a mall and they had to

0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:15.479
<v Speaker 3>escort him out and there were people like trying to lunch,

0:44:15.920 --> 0:44:18.520
<v Speaker 3>like looked like tens of thousands of people. It looked

0:44:18.520 --> 0:44:21.640
<v Speaker 3>like the Beatles, And it was insane to watch this stuff.

0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:22.400
<v Speaker 3>It was crazy.

0:44:23.400 --> 0:44:26.120
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean, we all got our share of that

0:44:26.360 --> 0:44:29.960
<v Speaker 6>fear put into us of people crushing, the stages of

0:44:29.960 --> 0:44:33.520
<v Speaker 6>people getting crushed and crying and like passing out, and

0:44:33.840 --> 0:44:37.920
<v Speaker 6>you know, it was very traumatizing so many levels. But

0:44:38.520 --> 0:44:43.319
<v Speaker 6>you know, the the bottom line is that now when

0:44:43.360 --> 0:44:45.600
<v Speaker 6>people look back at the way they remember the show

0:44:45.840 --> 0:44:49.600
<v Speaker 6>is so it's so touching, it's so yeah, it's really

0:44:49.719 --> 0:44:52.680
<v Speaker 6>meant something to them, and it and so many people

0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:56.200
<v Speaker 6>have said, like that got me through my teenage years.

0:44:56.360 --> 0:44:59.600
<v Speaker 4>You were my friend. I did many friends, but I

0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:00.399
<v Speaker 4>had you my.

0:45:00.360 --> 0:45:03.400
<v Speaker 6>Wall and I watched the show and I wrote you

0:45:03.520 --> 0:45:06.279
<v Speaker 6>letters and you wrote me letters back like we were.

0:45:06.480 --> 0:45:08.359
<v Speaker 6>I was on it with the fan mail back then.

0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:11.480
<v Speaker 6>You know, I could feel the people, the pain and

0:45:11.520 --> 0:45:16.239
<v Speaker 6>the people and them wanting that connection, and it just

0:45:16.320 --> 0:45:18.319
<v Speaker 6>had such a you know, I feel like a really

0:45:18.360 --> 0:45:21.640
<v Speaker 6>important impact on a lot of people. So I love

0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:22.600
<v Speaker 6>that about the show.

0:45:23.200 --> 0:45:24.680
<v Speaker 3>Well, I think one of the other things that did

0:45:24.880 --> 0:45:28.840
<v Speaker 3>is it, as you're saying, very few people knew like

0:45:28.880 --> 0:45:31.920
<v Speaker 3>I could pull the curtain back on Beverly Hills. But

0:45:32.000 --> 0:45:35.360
<v Speaker 3>at the same time, then it's showing that wow, they're

0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:37.560
<v Speaker 3>going through the same thing in their high school that

0:45:37.640 --> 0:45:40.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm going through in mind, even though they're in this

0:45:40.160 --> 0:45:43.000
<v Speaker 3>mythical Land, So it kind of showed no matter where

0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:45.600
<v Speaker 3>you do a great drama that takes place in a

0:45:45.640 --> 0:45:48.600
<v Speaker 3>high school on Mars, the kids are still going to

0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:51.160
<v Speaker 3>be going through the same thing they are in Iowa.

0:45:51.239 --> 0:45:52.880
<v Speaker 3>So it was that that was the kind of thing

0:45:52.920 --> 0:45:55.239
<v Speaker 3>where it's like, yeah, they're prettier than me, and they

0:45:55.239 --> 0:45:56.879
<v Speaker 3>have nicer cars than me, and they have more money

0:45:56.880 --> 0:45:59.360
<v Speaker 3>than me, but they also have exactly the same problems

0:45:59.400 --> 0:45:59.680
<v Speaker 3>I do.

0:46:00.160 --> 0:46:03.920
<v Speaker 6>And that was like leveling of like kind of that's

0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:05.799
<v Speaker 6>how I felt. I still feel as a human, Like

0:46:06.239 --> 0:46:09.440
<v Speaker 6>I talk about that because we're all here as humans

0:46:09.440 --> 0:46:12.839
<v Speaker 6>on this earth trying to figure this experience out. None

0:46:12.880 --> 0:46:15.960
<v Speaker 6>of us have directions or you know, nobody's really telling

0:46:16.040 --> 0:46:17.759
<v Speaker 6>us what to do. At the end of the day,

0:46:17.800 --> 0:46:20.800
<v Speaker 6>it's all our decision making. So I always talk about

0:46:20.840 --> 0:46:24.200
<v Speaker 6>like just except like looking into one another's eyes as

0:46:24.280 --> 0:46:26.680
<v Speaker 6>humanity and thinking, oh my gosh, you are just like me.

0:46:26.920 --> 0:46:32.120
<v Speaker 6>Like it's just something so like community building about that.

0:46:32.280 --> 0:46:35.440
<v Speaker 6>You know, unless you know you look at people and

0:46:35.480 --> 0:46:36.799
<v Speaker 6>you just hate them, that's a.

0:46:36.760 --> 0:46:55.720
<v Speaker 5>Whole Did you treat yourself to anything When the show

0:46:55.920 --> 0:46:58.040
<v Speaker 5>took off and became a smash hit.

0:46:58.880 --> 0:47:03.279
<v Speaker 4>Well, I treated other peop people to things. I you know,

0:47:03.360 --> 0:47:04.400
<v Speaker 4>got my dad a truck.

0:47:04.520 --> 0:47:06.440
<v Speaker 6>I bought a farm for my parents to live on

0:47:07.360 --> 0:47:10.960
<v Speaker 6>because it made them happy. I got my first husband

0:47:11.040 --> 0:47:19.360
<v Speaker 6>a Harley convertible corvette. At all, No, I didn't need

0:47:19.400 --> 0:47:22.280
<v Speaker 6>anything but my dog on my lap. I got happy

0:47:22.280 --> 0:47:24.160
<v Speaker 6>people around me, and I thought like, if I buy

0:47:24.239 --> 0:47:27.279
<v Speaker 6>these people things, not my price much, but like then

0:47:27.400 --> 0:47:29.399
<v Speaker 6>they're going to be happy and everybody's going to be great.

0:47:29.400 --> 0:47:33.239
<v Speaker 6>You know, it's going to be copasetic. And I wasn't

0:47:33.320 --> 0:47:36.200
<v Speaker 6>until I think after one of the like you know,

0:47:36.239 --> 0:47:38.200
<v Speaker 6>they would send you to New York for the upfronts

0:47:38.360 --> 0:47:41.840
<v Speaker 6>and you have to schmooz with the pr people and

0:47:42.160 --> 0:47:43.640
<v Speaker 6>from the buyers all that.

0:47:44.000 --> 0:47:44.640
<v Speaker 4>You know, the trill.

0:47:46.040 --> 0:47:48.120
<v Speaker 6>I think there was a I was staying at a

0:47:48.120 --> 0:47:51.960
<v Speaker 6>hotel and there was a jewelry shop connected to the hotel,

0:47:52.080 --> 0:47:54.560
<v Speaker 6>like one of those like cures, little pretty little stores.

0:47:54.800 --> 0:47:56.439
<v Speaker 6>And I did go in there once and I bought

0:47:56.440 --> 0:47:59.439
<v Speaker 6>myself a pair of diamond earrings. I never wore them,

0:47:59.480 --> 0:48:03.719
<v Speaker 6>I still, but I bought myself some earrings that were expensive.

0:48:04.200 --> 0:48:07.919
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was like I should reward myself, even like.

0:48:07.880 --> 0:48:11.960
<v Speaker 6>My last birthday, I just turned fifty four, and for

0:48:12.000 --> 0:48:14.080
<v Speaker 6>a whole week, week and a half. I was like,

0:48:14.360 --> 0:48:16.759
<v Speaker 6>I want to go shopping and buy myself something to

0:48:16.880 --> 0:48:19.160
<v Speaker 6>like just say, you know you like.

0:48:19.120 --> 0:48:20.200
<v Speaker 4>You deserve this? Why not?

0:48:21.040 --> 0:48:24.200
<v Speaker 6>And I have never gotten it done that have been

0:48:24.239 --> 0:48:28.439
<v Speaker 6>for for a while now.

0:48:27.239 --> 0:48:31.200
<v Speaker 4>No, I don't know, it's just nothing important to me, honestly.

0:48:31.920 --> 0:48:34.239
<v Speaker 3>What about something like are you still into animals? I mean,

0:48:34.320 --> 0:48:35.920
<v Speaker 3>did you ever want to get yourself a horse?

0:48:36.400 --> 0:48:37.200
<v Speaker 5>I have?

0:48:37.400 --> 0:48:38.399
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so there you go.

0:48:38.680 --> 0:48:41.319
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I guess that would be but my we raised

0:48:41.360 --> 0:48:43.600
<v Speaker 6>them on our farm up in the San Nenez Valley,

0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:47.799
<v Speaker 6>so it's a community effort and I got I asked

0:48:47.840 --> 0:48:49.759
<v Speaker 6>for a dog for Christmas this year. I was like,

0:48:49.800 --> 0:48:52.640
<v Speaker 6>I don't want anything but except a little tiny puppy

0:48:52.640 --> 0:48:56.800
<v Speaker 6>that I can travel with because I don't like traveling

0:48:56.840 --> 0:48:59.400
<v Speaker 6>alone and I just like having like a little heartbeat

0:48:59.480 --> 0:49:03.319
<v Speaker 6>with me and my husband and my daughter. Found a

0:49:03.320 --> 0:49:05.520
<v Speaker 6>little puppy and daughter for me first.

0:49:06.760 --> 0:49:07.440
<v Speaker 4>So sweet.

0:49:08.200 --> 0:49:10.440
<v Speaker 5>We had Brian Austin Green on the show recently, and

0:49:10.520 --> 0:49:13.120
<v Speaker 5>one thing we really connected with him on was the

0:49:13.160 --> 0:49:17.920
<v Speaker 5>blurring of the lines between David Silver and Brian, with

0:49:18.000 --> 0:49:20.920
<v Speaker 5>the writers using real aspects from his life for his characters.

0:49:21.560 --> 0:49:24.480
<v Speaker 5>That happened on our show, and writer didn't really love it,

0:49:25.440 --> 0:49:29.480
<v Speaker 5>felt a little intrusive. Did you have that issue at all?

0:49:31.719 --> 0:49:31.799
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:49:32.320 --> 0:49:35.200
<v Speaker 5>Okay, yeah, I mean I did see that you had

0:49:35.800 --> 0:49:40.239
<v Speaker 5>you faced drug addiction, pregnancy, and amnesia, possibly all in

0:49:40.239 --> 0:49:41.640
<v Speaker 5>that order or all at once.

0:49:41.880 --> 0:49:44.759
<v Speaker 6>So yeah, you know, multiple times there was the guy

0:49:45.200 --> 0:49:46.680
<v Speaker 6>the cocaine with the boyfriend.

0:49:46.719 --> 0:49:47.120
<v Speaker 4>I mean.

0:49:48.760 --> 0:49:52.080
<v Speaker 6>I had done none of the things that my character, right, okay,

0:49:52.520 --> 0:49:54.520
<v Speaker 6>but I was like, I have no idea how to

0:49:54.520 --> 0:49:56.320
<v Speaker 6>pretend to snort cocaine.

0:49:56.200 --> 0:49:59.480
<v Speaker 4>But here goes, here we go, give him my best shot.

0:50:01.680 --> 0:50:04.399
<v Speaker 3>Was there ever in the ten years a storyline where

0:50:04.400 --> 0:50:06.319
<v Speaker 3>you went, no, not doing it?

0:50:06.640 --> 0:50:07.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:50:07.719 --> 0:50:09.919
<v Speaker 6>Not in the early years. Not in the first five years.

0:50:09.920 --> 0:50:12.920
<v Speaker 6>Probably we had no control, no power, nobody listened to us.

0:50:13.960 --> 0:50:17.239
<v Speaker 6>But then as the show, you know, they needed us

0:50:17.320 --> 0:50:20.600
<v Speaker 6>more to not leave our contracts or whatever they saw

0:50:20.600 --> 0:50:23.760
<v Speaker 6>that that could possibly happen or people got replaced or whatever.

0:50:26.080 --> 0:50:29.080
<v Speaker 6>And also they knew, like they knew that I knew

0:50:29.120 --> 0:50:32.680
<v Speaker 6>my abilities also, so I think that there were times

0:50:32.680 --> 0:50:34.520
<v Speaker 6>when I would go in and say, I just I

0:50:35.200 --> 0:50:38.279
<v Speaker 6>don't see this something my character would say or do

0:50:38.480 --> 0:50:41.000
<v Speaker 6>or get herself involved with. Usually, you know, a lot

0:50:41.000 --> 0:50:43.919
<v Speaker 6>of times like with a love interest. They would bring

0:50:43.960 --> 0:50:48.239
<v Speaker 6>me in on casting because it was important that you

0:50:48.280 --> 0:50:54.400
<v Speaker 6>know the person worked with the character and you know, chemistry, Yeah, chemistry.

0:50:54.440 --> 0:50:56.200
<v Speaker 6>I mean I've said before I could have chemistry with

0:50:56.239 --> 0:50:58.520
<v Speaker 6>a door knob because I just want to get the

0:50:58.560 --> 0:51:02.520
<v Speaker 6>scene done and go home. But there there was there

0:51:02.480 --> 0:51:04.719
<v Speaker 6>have been a couple of occasions where now watching the

0:51:04.719 --> 0:51:07.640
<v Speaker 6>show back, I'm like, ooh, I'm not that good, Like

0:51:07.719 --> 0:51:09.319
<v Speaker 6>I am mystery of that guy?

0:51:10.760 --> 0:51:12.360
<v Speaker 1>That's so funny.

0:51:12.560 --> 0:51:17.359
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you have rewatched now tons of nine o two

0:51:17.400 --> 0:51:20.200
<v Speaker 5>one o episodes for nine o two one OMG, what

0:51:20.360 --> 0:51:23.200
<v Speaker 5>have you come away with watching the show with a

0:51:23.239 --> 0:51:24.680
<v Speaker 5>twenty twenty six lens?

0:51:24.840 --> 0:51:25.400
<v Speaker 4>Do you?

0:51:25.400 --> 0:51:26.799
<v Speaker 5>You said you were a super fan.

0:51:27.360 --> 0:51:30.120
<v Speaker 4>I'm a super fan. I cannot believe some of the

0:51:30.120 --> 0:51:31.439
<v Speaker 4>things the show got away with.

0:51:31.719 --> 0:51:37.360
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and also just like knowing it's so cool to

0:51:37.880 --> 0:51:40.120
<v Speaker 6>see me where I am in my life, like my

0:51:40.200 --> 0:51:43.960
<v Speaker 6>personal development and growth, and then see how it was

0:51:44.000 --> 0:51:45.479
<v Speaker 6>so stunted and it was so.

0:51:47.120 --> 0:51:49.120
<v Speaker 4>It was so unfamiliar.

0:51:49.320 --> 0:51:51.480
<v Speaker 6>I was making it up as I go, and you know,

0:51:51.640 --> 0:51:53.319
<v Speaker 6>just like how to handle all that stuff on a

0:51:53.320 --> 0:51:56.720
<v Speaker 6>personal level. So I have a very strong, like new

0:51:57.000 --> 0:52:02.560
<v Speaker 6>sort of appreciation love for myself that young girl that

0:52:02.760 --> 0:52:05.640
<v Speaker 6>was in those moments trying to figure all of that out.

0:52:05.719 --> 0:52:08.400
<v Speaker 6>So this one one of the biggest, huge, just takeaways

0:52:08.440 --> 0:52:13.080
<v Speaker 6>from watching the show back is really appreciating that young

0:52:13.239 --> 0:52:16.640
<v Speaker 6>person playing that role, what she was managing in her

0:52:16.680 --> 0:52:20.000
<v Speaker 6>real life too, but still showing up when they said

0:52:20.400 --> 0:52:23.960
<v Speaker 6>action and you know, always being you know, what I

0:52:24.000 --> 0:52:26.840
<v Speaker 6>was supposed to be, but just like a new just

0:52:26.880 --> 0:52:31.600
<v Speaker 6>an understanding too of like why I have struggled with

0:52:31.640 --> 0:52:33.640
<v Speaker 6>certain things in my life and where that might have

0:52:33.719 --> 0:52:36.560
<v Speaker 6>come from. Like there's a lot of personal work aside

0:52:36.560 --> 0:52:38.279
<v Speaker 6>from just a true appreciation for the.

0:52:39.880 --> 0:52:41.279
<v Speaker 4>Show being what it was.

0:52:41.480 --> 0:52:43.560
<v Speaker 3>You know, Yeah, was there ever a time you were

0:52:43.600 --> 0:52:44.360
<v Speaker 3>considering leaving?

0:52:46.600 --> 0:52:48.080
<v Speaker 4>I think maybe, like.

0:52:50.320 --> 0:52:52.680
<v Speaker 6>See like when it was between eight and nine and ten,

0:52:53.239 --> 0:52:54.960
<v Speaker 6>there were you know, those were the times when I

0:52:54.960 --> 0:52:58.160
<v Speaker 6>would have the thoughts. But honestly, I really never had

0:52:58.160 --> 0:53:01.560
<v Speaker 6>a strong desire to leave the show. Because I had

0:53:01.600 --> 0:53:04.239
<v Speaker 6>a young daughter. I was able to take her to

0:53:04.239 --> 0:53:06.319
<v Speaker 6>work with me. I was able to pay for our

0:53:06.400 --> 0:53:11.080
<v Speaker 6>house and her needs, and I was appreciative of that.

0:53:11.160 --> 0:53:14.040
<v Speaker 6>And you know, I come from you know, working middle

0:53:14.040 --> 0:53:18.480
<v Speaker 6>class family where you work hard and you don't bite

0:53:18.520 --> 0:53:21.279
<v Speaker 6>the hand that feeds you. You know, so I have

0:53:21.360 --> 0:53:23.879
<v Speaker 6>a very strong work ethic, and I think that really

0:53:23.960 --> 0:53:25.479
<v Speaker 6>kept me there to see.

0:53:25.560 --> 0:53:27.640
<v Speaker 4>I love seeing things through to the end, you know.

0:53:27.880 --> 0:53:43.279
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you'd eventually go on to star on What I

0:53:43.400 --> 0:53:46.000
<v Speaker 5>Like About You with Amanda Bynes, who also was a

0:53:46.080 --> 0:53:48.960
<v Speaker 5>child star, did you ever feel like a big sister

0:53:49.120 --> 0:53:52.040
<v Speaker 5>on set now in a position to have faced it

0:53:52.120 --> 0:53:53.000
<v Speaker 5>and survived?

0:53:53.520 --> 0:53:54.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Absolutely.

0:53:54.480 --> 0:53:57.319
<v Speaker 6>I mean when I met her, like the first day

0:53:57.320 --> 0:53:59.600
<v Speaker 6>we worked together, I was turning thirty and she was

0:53:59.600 --> 0:54:04.000
<v Speaker 6>turning sixteen, and we shared birth date, so huge different

0:54:04.080 --> 0:54:05.240
<v Speaker 6>places in our lives.

0:54:05.680 --> 0:54:07.719
<v Speaker 4>And I was actually a little nervous going in.

0:54:07.640 --> 0:54:10.440
<v Speaker 6>And working with being the older one and working with

0:54:10.719 --> 0:54:15.040
<v Speaker 6>a teenager like I had been before, and I thought, Okay,

0:54:15.160 --> 0:54:18.720
<v Speaker 6>this is weird. But luckily my character was her older sister,

0:54:18.920 --> 0:54:22.480
<v Speaker 6>so and they were silly. It was fun and it

0:54:22.520 --> 0:54:26.160
<v Speaker 6>wasn't too too deep all the time. But I just

0:54:26.280 --> 0:54:31.680
<v Speaker 6>working with Amanda at that young, like efferves an age.

0:54:31.680 --> 0:54:33.600
<v Speaker 6>She was just hopping all over the place, and if

0:54:33.800 --> 0:54:37.080
<v Speaker 6>we were filming something, and like you know when you

0:54:37.239 --> 0:54:39.600
<v Speaker 6>film live like they'll the audience will hear music while

0:54:39.640 --> 0:54:41.920
<v Speaker 6>you're like getting notes from the director and stuff, and

0:54:41.960 --> 0:54:44.680
<v Speaker 6>she would hear a song that was playing, and she'd

0:54:44.680 --> 0:54:46.919
<v Speaker 6>be gone, like that'd be it. She'd have to dance

0:54:46.960 --> 0:54:49.480
<v Speaker 6>it out for the whole with the audience or whoever

0:54:49.640 --> 0:54:51.759
<v Speaker 6>was around her, and we'd all just wait. But I

0:54:51.880 --> 0:54:54.959
<v Speaker 6>learned to like, I love that about her, and it really,

0:54:55.000 --> 0:55:00.279
<v Speaker 6>honestly sort of helped me as I started to become

0:55:00.280 --> 0:55:02.480
<v Speaker 6>the mom of teenage girls. Like I was kind of

0:55:02.480 --> 0:55:05.479
<v Speaker 6>nervous to be a mom of teenage girls, and I didn't,

0:55:05.600 --> 0:55:08.160
<v Speaker 6>you know, it was a little bit of intimidated by

0:55:08.440 --> 0:55:11.960
<v Speaker 6>people young, young people, you know, And so being around

0:55:11.960 --> 0:55:15.280
<v Speaker 6>her really made me feel like, it's just it's gonna

0:55:15.320 --> 0:55:18.240
<v Speaker 6>be fun and exciting, and it's so fun to watch

0:55:18.280 --> 0:55:20.160
<v Speaker 6>them like live in the moment like she did.

0:55:21.360 --> 0:55:24.640
<v Speaker 5>You have three beautiful daughters. What lesson have you taken

0:55:25.040 --> 0:55:27.600
<v Speaker 5>from your own youth in front of the camera and

0:55:27.640 --> 0:55:29.200
<v Speaker 5>then brought with you into parenting?

0:55:29.520 --> 0:55:30.280
<v Speaker 4>Oh my goodness.

0:55:30.360 --> 0:55:36.040
<v Speaker 6>Well as as I think being in front of the camera,

0:55:36.320 --> 0:55:40.440
<v Speaker 6>being young and having all that responsibility, I learned that

0:55:40.480 --> 0:55:45.000
<v Speaker 6>there's you. You have to be there. You cannot not

0:55:45.120 --> 0:55:47.520
<v Speaker 6>show up for the job because there's a crew waiting

0:55:47.600 --> 0:55:50.040
<v Speaker 6>for you, and they all want to go home to

0:55:50.080 --> 0:55:53.600
<v Speaker 6>their families. And my girls, I cannot not show up

0:55:53.600 --> 0:55:57.000
<v Speaker 6>for them because they need me that much too. Like

0:55:57.080 --> 0:56:00.880
<v Speaker 6>it's it taught me, you know again that strong Midwestern

0:56:00.960 --> 0:56:03.959
<v Speaker 6>sort of work ethic is in me, whether I.

0:56:03.880 --> 0:56:04.480
<v Speaker 4>Want it or not.

0:56:05.440 --> 0:56:07.799
<v Speaker 6>So I really work hard and try hard to be

0:56:07.880 --> 0:56:10.400
<v Speaker 6>the best mom I can be, just like I've always

0:56:10.480 --> 0:56:13.319
<v Speaker 6>tried to be the best at anything, best bring my

0:56:13.360 --> 0:56:16.240
<v Speaker 6>best foot forward for anything I've ever done, so I think,

0:56:16.600 --> 0:56:19.799
<v Speaker 6>you know. And then also just like learning that I'm

0:56:19.800 --> 0:56:24.040
<v Speaker 6>not perfect and I make mistakes, whether it's in you know,

0:56:24.120 --> 0:56:25.960
<v Speaker 6>on the set or as an actress or as a

0:56:26.000 --> 0:56:29.880
<v Speaker 6>mom or whatever it is, and then finding along the

0:56:29.920 --> 0:56:34.080
<v Speaker 6>way of my life the grace and the love for

0:56:34.200 --> 0:56:40.000
<v Speaker 6>myself and the self sort of respect to give myself,

0:56:40.280 --> 0:56:45.000
<v Speaker 6>you know, a break sometimes or give myself grace and say, yeah,

0:56:45.040 --> 0:56:47.279
<v Speaker 6>you could have done that a little bit better, but

0:56:48.760 --> 0:56:49.360
<v Speaker 6>there's tomorrow.

0:56:49.400 --> 0:56:50.560
<v Speaker 4>Let's try for tomorrow. You know.

0:56:51.640 --> 0:56:53.919
<v Speaker 5>I love that. I would be remiss if I didn't

0:56:53.920 --> 0:56:55.960
<v Speaker 5>talk Dancing with the Stars with you for just one question.

0:56:56.000 --> 0:56:58.000
<v Speaker 5>At the very least you were on season five and

0:56:58.040 --> 0:57:00.000
<v Speaker 5>you made it all the way to the semi finals.

0:57:00.400 --> 0:57:03.520
<v Speaker 5>Are you surprised by the show's revival at all?

0:57:04.360 --> 0:57:08.160
<v Speaker 4>I can't believe that show's still on. I remember even

0:57:08.360 --> 0:57:10.240
<v Speaker 4>one when it came.

0:57:10.000 --> 0:57:11.800
<v Speaker 6>On and they asked me to do it. I'm season

0:57:11.840 --> 0:57:14.520
<v Speaker 6>one and I was like, oh no, that's that's not vetted.

0:57:14.640 --> 0:57:15.759
<v Speaker 6>Nobody knows how this is going.

0:57:15.760 --> 0:57:17.960
<v Speaker 4>To go over. So I didn't do it until season

0:57:18.080 --> 0:57:21.400
<v Speaker 4>three or five or whatever it was. I can't. I

0:57:21.480 --> 0:57:26.000
<v Speaker 4>mean it was so I love watching it, but how

0:57:26.080 --> 0:57:28.400
<v Speaker 4>I mean, that's a long time that show's been on. Yeah,

0:57:28.440 --> 0:57:29.240
<v Speaker 4>that's a long time.

0:57:29.440 --> 0:57:32.240
<v Speaker 6>I guess he's you know, it's the glitz, it's the sequence,

0:57:32.320 --> 0:57:36.080
<v Speaker 6>it's the personal journey, the challenge that the contestants go

0:57:36.160 --> 0:57:39.880
<v Speaker 6>through and having done it like it is hard.

0:57:40.560 --> 0:57:42.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it was Derek. You were partnered with Derek Coff.

0:57:42.840 --> 0:57:44.760
<v Speaker 5>It was his very first season.

0:57:45.560 --> 0:57:49.800
<v Speaker 6>Wow, He's gotten off of a plane from London where

0:57:49.800 --> 0:57:54.880
<v Speaker 6>he was doing some London show and came directly to

0:57:54.880 --> 0:57:56.120
<v Speaker 6>my house from the airport.

0:57:56.560 --> 0:58:00.680
<v Speaker 4>He looked like a twelve year old Yeah, and I

0:58:01.160 --> 0:58:03.280
<v Speaker 4>literally just laughed in his face. I was like, you're

0:58:03.360 --> 0:58:06.320
<v Speaker 4>gonna be my dance partner. Looks like you're my son.

0:58:07.080 --> 0:58:10.120
<v Speaker 4>And so we just had fun all the time.

0:58:10.160 --> 0:58:12.680
<v Speaker 6>But I never ever ever could take him serious or

0:58:12.720 --> 0:58:14.440
<v Speaker 6>like do those like romantic.

0:58:14.000 --> 0:58:17.440
<v Speaker 4>Things and still to this day. I just saw him

0:58:17.480 --> 0:58:20.200
<v Speaker 4>last week and it was just so fun. It's just

0:58:20.240 --> 0:58:21.479
<v Speaker 4>the same feeling over again.

0:58:21.560 --> 0:58:25.320
<v Speaker 6>But I think that that show was really showed me

0:58:25.360 --> 0:58:29.320
<v Speaker 6>how strong I was. Yeah, and I was honestly, you know,

0:58:29.480 --> 0:58:33.920
<v Speaker 6>no disrespect. But I was so happy when I got

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<v Speaker 6>kicked off they ever, because I did not like that

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<v Speaker 6>kind of stress and the spotlight.

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<v Speaker 4>I I'm much more. I don't like that. It was hard.

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<v Speaker 4>It was really even get hypnotized not pee my pants

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<v Speaker 4>when they said undancing the Wolves, Like, excuse me, PCSD

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<v Speaker 4>bumps right now, that's just fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I talked to an American Idol winner actually who he

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<v Speaker 2>still when he hears that, he's like, I have a

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<v Speaker 2>panic attack.

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<v Speaker 4>I know what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 6>It like blacked out right, like blacking out, you don't

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<v Speaker 6>remember anything? Is it just it's not I'm not the

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<v Speaker 6>person that's like, hey, look at me, everybody like I

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<v Speaker 6>love that.

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<v Speaker 3>So it sounds like so much fun.

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<v Speaker 4>I in really good shape for that moment. Yep, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>that's true.

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<v Speaker 5>Well I love your focus on finally taking care of

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<v Speaker 5>yourself at fifty. As women and mothers specifically, I think

0:59:36.440 --> 0:59:40.000
<v Speaker 5>we get so lost in our roles and our expectations.

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<v Speaker 5>If you could give advice to anyone who is listening, who,

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<v Speaker 5>let's say, is just turning thirty and maybe they're ready

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<v Speaker 5>to start a family, what advice are you giving.

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<v Speaker 4>Them turning thirty.

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<v Speaker 6>That's gotta I gotta rewind for them turning thirty. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>let go of the perfection that the desire or the

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<v Speaker 6>unrelenting quest for perfection. Nobody's living an Instagram life in

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<v Speaker 6>real life. Yeah, I think we forget that, and I

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<v Speaker 6>certainly get doom scrolled in and start to feel bad

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<v Speaker 6>about myself, like it's so useless and pointless, and just

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<v Speaker 6>you know, do you don't try to live up to

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<v Speaker 6>other people's expectations or standards. And what I say to

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<v Speaker 6>everybody I meet, because this, I think is the core

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<v Speaker 6>of the foundation of us surviving this experience is look

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<v Speaker 6>in the mirror and find the little person inside of you.

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<v Speaker 6>We all have it, no matter how old we are,

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<v Speaker 6>how much we say that so woo woo. I don't

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<v Speaker 6>want to talk to my inner child that is happening

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<v Speaker 6>inside of you, that little person that was at some

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<v Speaker 6>point abandoned by someone, maybe even abandoned by you, to

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<v Speaker 6>reconnect with that little child inside of you and really

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<v Speaker 6>sort of like take care of her or him, and

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<v Speaker 6>just because that right there is like, once you tap

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<v Speaker 6>into that relationship with yourself, even if it's your younger self,

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<v Speaker 6>that's the most important love relationship you will ever have

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<v Speaker 6>in your life. So you know what they say, all

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<v Speaker 6>those stupid cliches, you can't fully love someone else until

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<v Speaker 6>you love yourself one hundred percent true. And I heard

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<v Speaker 6>that in my thirties, twenties, thirties and rolled my eyes.

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<v Speaker 6>But knowing what I know, living the life that I've lived, like,

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<v Speaker 6>that's the number one thing that I want people to know.

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<v Speaker 6>Because you are on your own in this life, you

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<v Speaker 6>were all you've got, and so making that connection as

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<v Speaker 6>strong and that bond as strong as you can with yourself,

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<v Speaker 6>it's most important.

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<v Speaker 5>I love that. Thank you. You can pick up Jenny's

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<v Speaker 5>book I Choose Me Chasing Joy, Finding Purpose and Embracing

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<v Speaker 5>reinvention wherever books are sold, and her iHeart podcast I

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<v Speaker 5>Choose Me is available wherever you get your podcasts. Thank

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<v Speaker 5>you so much for joining us today. This was really

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<v Speaker 5>lovely to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 4>I enjoyed it. We've spent a long time in the making. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>seeing each other backstage and I just saw you, I think,

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<v Speaker 4>didn't I in Vegas? I get confused?

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<v Speaker 5>Were we Austin right south By Southwest said.

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<v Speaker 4>We were there together. We passed, and yeah, so that

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<v Speaker 4>we've come together.

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<v Speaker 5>We're all under one roof. You were not under one roof.

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<v Speaker 3>It brings you to really weird places, because the last

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<v Speaker 3>time you and I sat down and talked, we were

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<v Speaker 3>in the Brady bunch House. Really, that's so funny.

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<v Speaker 5>You guys were in the Brady Bunch House. Writer and

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<v Speaker 5>Jenny were in south By Southwest and I. She and

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<v Speaker 5>I were at the iHeart Music.

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<v Speaker 4>Awards or QBC headquarter, the.

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<v Speaker 5>QBC headquarters, it could be anywhere, you never know.

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<v Speaker 2>We need like a nineties teen actor handshake or something.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yeah, like a secret wing or something exactly. I

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<v Speaker 4>love it and we see each other so funny.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much for being here.

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<v Speaker 4>It was great talking to you.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll see you again in a weird place.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, I honestly can't believe how much I

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<v Speaker 2>loved the nine O two one oh cast over the

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<v Speaker 2>last like year and a half. I've actually because we've

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<v Speaker 2>always been around each other we've always been at events

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<v Speaker 2>together and talking to them through our podcast and at conventions.

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<v Speaker 1>In the last like two or three years.

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<v Speaker 2>I have had so much fun connecting with them, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're all very smart, very interesting people. They've all turned

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<v Speaker 2>into like I don't know's that's like a shock to me,

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<v Speaker 2>and I guess that's just a result of me having,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, absorbed them in the tabloid sense, and of

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<v Speaker 2>course I didn't read any of that stuff, but you

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<v Speaker 2>just sort of know that there's drama and there's all this,

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<v Speaker 2>and then to like actually talk to them and they're

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<v Speaker 2>all so cool and down to earth, and I'm just like, God,

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<v Speaker 2>I just fall I just fell for the trap that

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<v Speaker 2>we all do, which is assuming that actors are like

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<v Speaker 2>their characters or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>We also we really have no concept of how famous

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<v Speaker 3>they were. Oh back in the day, it was they

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<v Speaker 3>were on such another level, the same that it was.

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<v Speaker 3>I could not imagine living that life and for meeting

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<v Speaker 3>a movie for ten years they did essentially.

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<v Speaker 2>But also they were like the first experience of seeing

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<v Speaker 2>famous teenagers for me before I became one, So like

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<v Speaker 2>they were like paving the way, and I remember being

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<v Speaker 2>like that's crazy, what is happening? You know, and then

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<v Speaker 2>sort of stepped into it myself, but on a much

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<v Speaker 2>smaller scale.

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<v Speaker 3>But like they were also in a very interesting way.

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<v Speaker 3>They were kind of the bridge between the seventies and

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<v Speaker 3>eighties child actor that ended up having lots of problems

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<v Speaker 3>to then kind of I mean you never really heard

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<v Speaker 3>about Jenny Garth got arrested last night, Like you didn't

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<v Speaker 3>hear about that kind of stuff. So it was they

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<v Speaker 3>they they went from they kind of were that bridge

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<v Speaker 3>to being a more stable version of a teen child act.

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<v Speaker 1>But didn't the tableaus want them to be unstable?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, I feel like they were milking the stories.

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<v Speaker 3>None of it was true, or it was it was

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<v Speaker 3>the smallest little thing, or it was a tiny little thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean they were they weren't getting arrested, they weren't

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<v Speaker 3>doing drugs, they weren't doing all this stuff where you were.

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<v Speaker 3>Really it started in nineteen ninety I mean you had

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of eighties stars and seventy stars, the different strokes,

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<v Speaker 3>kids and all the stuff that were having really hard

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<v Speaker 3>lives and they kind of started the you know, you

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<v Speaker 3>can be a healthy teen child actor.

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