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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up

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Speaker 1: straight Fire, Fam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire for Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: November three. Wow. Wow, Wow. Do we have a great

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Speaker 1: podcast today. A lot of stuff happening, A lot of

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Speaker 1: stuff happening, A lot to get to. I've got to

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Speaker 1: start off by given a major shout out to the

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Speaker 1: Atlanta Braves on the World Series Crown. Congratulations Braves. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Never been a huge fan of the Braves. I will

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Speaker 1: rattle for you some of the names of my favorite

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Speaker 1: their baseball cards, especially rookie cards, because I was a

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Speaker 1: Dale Murphy certainly one of my favorite Braves. I definitely

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Speaker 1: of Fred McGriff the crime Dog. For some reason, I

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Speaker 1: close out. I know some people are like, what about

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Speaker 1: Greg Maddox had the filthiest stuff I thought of all them,

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Speaker 1: and um, yeah, I had a I was a big

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Speaker 1: And I actually remember a couple of times VM my

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Speaker 1: but that chip has sailed thankfully. Um anyways, congrats to

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Speaker 1: crown since In uh slightly darker news, I don't even

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Speaker 1: know what to make of Henry Ruggs. Um this situation

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Speaker 1: Can we get what? What the hell is going on?

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Speaker 1: One of my favorite college football announcers. You hear him

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Speaker 1: Tim Brando. Very very opinionated. And what I love about

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Speaker 1: Tim A lot of these announcers are very by the

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Speaker 1: schedule is tough coming up. I'm I'm rooting for chaos, folks. Unequivocally,

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Speaker 1: college football announcer. I mean he's called everything, but I

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Speaker 1: everything when it comes to sports. I know what sports

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Speaker 1: let's welcome into straight fire. A guy you know if

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Speaker 1: a lot more in my view then. But but who knows.

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Speaker 1: If if you talk to some of the guys out

425
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Speaker 1: there that are involved with combines, if they say he's

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Speaker 1: gonna go top five, just go you know, just go ahead,

427
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Speaker 1: is that even possible? Though? I don't see it. I

428
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Speaker 1: mean I don't. But there are times when you know

429
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Speaker 1: the NFL gurus that that seemingly no more or at

430
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Speaker 1: least think they know more than uh. Look at the

431
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Speaker 1: bottom line is whatever they determine is the direction he

432
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Speaker 1: ought to go. Yeah, he's a threat to slip. Okay,

433
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Speaker 1: if you if if it's a threat for him to

434
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Speaker 1: go someplace else and slip, then he probably should just

435
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Speaker 1: go from Wouldn't it make sense for even if they

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Speaker 1: told him, hey, you're gonna be a second or third

437
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Speaker 1: round pick, wouldn't it still makes sense to go because

438
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Speaker 1: the pressure and going to a terrible team like I

439
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Speaker 1: don't know, Houston or Detroit, You're gonna fail there? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think. I don't think he would

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Speaker 1: slip that far. Uh, And I also think that even

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Speaker 1: if he did slip to the latter stages of the

443
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Speaker 1: first round, you know, he might fall to a better team. Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: You could make a case that he could fall into

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Speaker 1: a better situation, you know. I remember when Dakh was

446
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Speaker 1: the third rounder and and the moment I saw that,

447
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Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, he just hit the lottery.

448
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Speaker 1: And I had some friends of mine because I was

449
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Speaker 1: covering Dock in the SEC at that time. Doc is

450
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Speaker 1: from basically Shreeport. My hometown, Hawton is just outside. It's

451
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Speaker 1: a small rural town just outside the city limits of Shreeport,

452
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Speaker 1: Boger City. And Uh, I've seen him in high school.

453
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Speaker 1: Knew the kid well, and I thought, man, when he

454
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Speaker 1: gets his chance in Dallas, it's gonna be perfect because

455
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Speaker 1: Jones is going to spend the money to get the

456
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Speaker 1: right people in there. He's always competing for championships. He's

457
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Speaker 1: a he's he's an owner that cares. I didn't know

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Speaker 1: that what happened to Romo was gonna happen, and that

459
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Speaker 1: he'd get the shot that he got early. But he

460
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Speaker 1: fell really although it was in the third round, he

461
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Speaker 1: fell to a team that he could have greater success

462
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Speaker 1: earlier with UH, and that could happen to Rattler, you know,

463
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Speaker 1: instead of going to a team similar to what Joe

464
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Speaker 1: Burrow had to go to, right uh or or or

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Speaker 1: Lamar or any of the guys recently that have gone

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Speaker 1: into the league that have gone to you know, better teams.

467
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Speaker 1: You know, even Baker Mayfield man, you think about that,

468
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Speaker 1: he's been under the gun because he was expected to

469
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Speaker 1: do so much in Cleveland. Well, I mean, Cleveland's not Dallas,

470
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Speaker 1: you know, and and doesn't have an ownership like Dallas,

471
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Speaker 1: and so so it might he might be well served

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Speaker 1: to just go ahead and go pro if he drops

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Speaker 1: to the latter stages of the first Now, I don't

474
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Speaker 1: know that he'd want to wait and go third, third

475
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Speaker 1: round like Dak had to wait on his money, you know,

476
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Speaker 1: he only recently got it. But but in terms of

477
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Speaker 1: just viability to win and be a developed, a well

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Speaker 1: developed player with a system that gives him a better

479
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Speaker 1: chance to to be UH successful, it might work out

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Speaker 1: for him. Look what happened to Donald. You know, Donald

481
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Speaker 1: went to the wrong team at the wrong time. The

482
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Speaker 1: situation I know is balanced out some in Carolina, but

483
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 1: you know, they're also, you know, banged up a little bit.

484
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Speaker 1: Sam's banged up. He's a imagine if he had been

485
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Speaker 1: with Joe Brady run out of the gates as opposed

486
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Speaker 1: to having to go to the Jets. Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 1: R to listen live. Do you have a Heisan vote? Yes?

491
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for thirty years, I've had one. Are you

492
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Speaker 1: allowed to talk about? You know what? Who's your leader?

493
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: At this look? They don't want us to tell us

494
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Speaker 1: how we vote, but I can tell you who I'm

495
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 1: I'm considering, and I've never I've never been more wide open.

496
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: Yeah I am this year. Um, Jordan Davis is gonna

497
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: get some consideration for me the Georgia defensive tackle. Wow,

498
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 1: he's gonna get some consideration, There's no telling. I Mean,

499
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: the only Heisman performance that I've seen was the one

500
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Speaker 1: at Michigan State last week. That kid transferred from Wake.

501
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: I mean, my gosh, what a performance that was. And

502
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: probably most people out there didn't know who he was

503
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: until the second half of the Michigan game. Now I

504
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 1: don't know if that if if that's his one shot

505
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: and maybe he levels off, but maybe he doesn't, maybe

506
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: he continues to play at a very high level. Corral

507
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: was in a good position the all this quarterback. But see,

508
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: unlike running backs, quarterbacks they win the Heisman more often, yes,

509
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: but they have greater chances to lose the Heisman than ning.

510
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: So you know, there's a plethora of people out there,

511
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 1: Jason that you could you could turn to right now.

512
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: I think they may have to invite a half dozen

513
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Speaker 1: or more people there. The boat is gonna be so

514
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: segmented or origionally oriented. Now, look, Rice Young is gonna

515
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: have big opportunities, no doubt. Uh, So you know you

516
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 1: gotta put the Alabama quarterback has always gotta be in

517
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Speaker 1: the mix. And you know, if you beat Georgia, you know,

518
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: and and if you have to beat him again or whatever,

519
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: if you win that game and you take care of Auburn,

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00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: you know, those two games are gonna be influential games

521
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Speaker 1: for him. You could go out and rest it away

522
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: by simply playing big in those games, no doubt about.

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Speaker 1: I think might yeah, yeah, I think the Heisman race

524
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Speaker 1: is a lot like the college football race. This year.

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Speaker 1: It's flat. Everything's flat. And you know, after Georgia being

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Speaker 1: number one, who else are you comfortable putting a numeral

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Speaker 1: next to I'm not really that comfortable putting a numeral

528
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Speaker 1: next for anybody. That's why I've got Cincinnati number two

529
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Speaker 1: right now? I like that. Yeah, I'm with you on that.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's buzz through. I got Georgia one, I

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Speaker 1: got Cincinnati to Michigan State three in Alabama, four Oklahoma

532
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Speaker 1: outside looking in, I got Oklahoma at six. I've got

533
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Speaker 1: a behind Oregon. Wow. Not a believer in the Sooners.

534
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: I like that, even though the Sooners are undefeated. I

535
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Speaker 1: mean that near loss to Kansas and my mind is

536
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: worse than a law. It's bad. Yeah, and Oregon did

537
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: does have maybe the best win of the season right

538
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Speaker 1: without about how can you put Ohio State ahead of

539
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Speaker 1: Oregon right now? How? How so where do you have

540
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Speaker 1: Ohio State seven? The only reason you've got Ohio State

541
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Speaker 1: seven Oregon Oregon is not that they're they're a big

542
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: name on the West coast, Jason, but they're not pure

543
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: layoff privilege. Ohio State is the Alabama of the North. Okay.

544
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: Alabama is like the Cowboys and and and Ohio State

545
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: is like the Patriots. Okay, you you know what I mean.

546
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: It's a double hitter. Today, America's game of the week

547
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: is uh, New England or Dallas. Okay. Well, that's kind

548
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: of what college football has become as it relates to

549
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: the two biggest names, the two highest raded teams. And look, Columbus,

550
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: Ohio and Birmingham, Alabama are the two highest raded college

551
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Speaker 1: football cities in the country. So that's one of the

552
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: reasons why it works that way. Agree, but people don't

553
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: talk enough about the ratings. I want to buzz some

554
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: coaching jobs. First of all, Um, Tim, Jim Harbaugh in trouble,

555
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: lost his party, gonna lose to the Buckeyes again. Um,

556
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Speaker 1: I don't know if he loses a third game this year,

557
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: He's no, he's safe, Jim. They don't love him. I mean, Tim,

558
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: you saw it after that loss. It was like, we're

559
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: up thirty to fourteen, hardbus stinks, get him out of here.

560
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: They were undefeated like an hour before that. Well until

561
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Speaker 1: the Michiganders have the power of social media. Of a

562
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Speaker 1: Clay Travis at Tennessee. He says, remember when up that's right, Yeah, Yeah,

563
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: Clay started, I mean pounding the drum. We can't have

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Speaker 1: Shiano coming here. And you know what, it worked, It

565
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Speaker 1: absolutely worked. Social media controlled the Tennessee leadership. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: do wonder though, is Michigan. I don't think Michigan social

567
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Speaker 1: media wet jobs are gonna tell there, Yeah, their board

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Speaker 1: of regions or their president chancellor what to do. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but is Michigan is like a way better school than Tennessee.

570
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: Like they're there there. They claim education above all, although

571
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: they need football. But I don't think they're gonna be

572
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Speaker 1: bullied by social media idiots. A Tennessee's kind of sauce.

573
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: They've already given Jim as pay cut, and Jim took

574
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: it and he handled it well. And to be perfectly

575
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Speaker 1: honest with you, his demeanor this year has been tremendous.

576
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: I'm I'm impressed with what I've seen. And look, I

577
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: know a lot of people say that's another big game.

578
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: He was play cating to the second quarterback. He turned

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Speaker 1: it over, he should have all true. All those things

580
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: are true. I mean Jim made some mistakes. I thought offensively,

581
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: they could have just pounded the rock with the sixteen

582
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Speaker 1: point lead. Uh. Instead, they were putting it in the air,

583
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: and they were. They allowed some mistakes to happen, put

584
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Speaker 1: the ball on the turf, and and gave Michigan state life.

585
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: But to me, it showed that he was really not

586
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: taking the pedal off the metal. I thought his intention

587
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: was to stay aggressive, which I think he's okay. Look,

588
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Speaker 1: people will continue to throw up the records against his rivals,

589
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: and it's I get that, But for the price they're

590
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: getting him at right now, he's actually a pretty good deal. Okay,

591
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: pretty better right now. I don't disagree. Um, you're from Louisiana,

592
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: who is getting the l s U job? In your

593
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: in your perfect world, who would you? Who would you like?

594
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: Milt Tucker? I think the first call. And look, Scott

595
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: Woodward was in high school at Catholic Hi and Baton

596
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: Rouge when I was working in local TV there. He's

597
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: a good guy. He's known for making great highs. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He's married, by the way, to Mark Emmert's daughter. Mark Emmert,

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Speaker 1: the President of Washington, hired him as athletic director and

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Speaker 1: uh so Mark did a great job at LSU, getting

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Speaker 1: sabing and you know he was working at that time

602
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: as an underling at L s U and that's where

603
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: he got his feet wet in administration. And when he

604
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: went to Washington and hired Chris Peterson, that was a coup.

605
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: Getting him out of Boise was a big deal. It

606
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: was an even bigger deal at Texas A and M

607
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: when he got Jimbo. Uh. And remember because he cut

608
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: that deal with Jimbo as the LETTA director, he knows

609
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: that there is no buyout for Jimbo Fisher. Now what

610
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I don't believe he's gonna get Jimbo,

611
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: but I believe. I don't believe. I don't believe he's

612
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: gonna get him, but I know he's gonna call it.

613
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: He's gonna make Jimbo Fisher tell him no. Yeah. So

614
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think if you're Jimbo Fisher, L S

615
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: use a better job than A and M. I think

616
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Speaker 1: it is. And I think it is because you don't

617
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: have to deal with the constant daily Texas talk and

618
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: recruiting Friday night lights stuff that never ceases. It never

619
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: ceases in Texas, And now with Texas going into the SEC,

620
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: it's only gonna make it that but more competitive. On

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Speaker 1: a day basis. Uh. And here's something else to consider.

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Speaker 1: All of the people are gonna say, Brando, he's an L.

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Speaker 1: S U. Homer. I don't know. That's nothing to do

624
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 1: with it. It has to do with jobs, their geography

625
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: and what comes with the territory. If you're offering the L. S.

626
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: HU job out there, if you are the guy that

627
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: gets the procure the next head coach for that institution,

628
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: you can go to that coach and his agent. And

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Speaker 1: that agent is Jimmy Sexton, somebody that done a lot

630
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: of business with for a long time. You can call

631
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Speaker 1: him up and say, hey, now look, I know Jimbo

632
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: has gotta say all the right things, and he already has.

633
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: You know, we love it here, my family loves here,

634
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: loved the fish year, got a lot of friends to day,

635
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: and am great environment, all those things. We've heard all that,

636
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: but Jimbo knows because he was part of it as

637
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: the O C for Sabing And oh three, what other

638
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: program in college football could say they have three national

639
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: championships in the last eighteen years with three different head coaches,

640
00:35:54,440 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: and two of those three coaches might be considered average coaches. Okay, yeah,

641
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: oh is not gonna be thrilled during that. But I mean, yeah, yeah,

642
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: you're right. I don't book. I like it and I

643
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: like less. But they're not in the same stratosphere with

644
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: Saban or Debo or Urban or you know, name the

645
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: big name coach with multiple national titles. It's pretty unique

646
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: to be able to say, Jason, we've won three national

647
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: championships with three different coaches over an eighteen year period.

648
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: You want to win one, Jimbo, another one, Jimbo. Jimbo's

649
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 1: got one. How many of Texas? How many of Texas

650
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 1: A and M, I mean, how many if they had there?

651
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: It is there any? No, no, never never won that.

652
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: We've got to go back to the u P. I yeah,

653
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: all those days, a long long time ago, if they

654
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: ever had any And you know, Gene Stallings and the

655
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: Junction boys, I don't think you even got it. So

656
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 1: it's hard. It's hard in Texas and in Louisiana. Yeah,

657
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: it's um. We have a few more taxes you have

658
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: to pay on the money that comes out. You know,

659
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: we've got property taxes and we got uh, we've got

660
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: parish taxes here. You know, they can offer the same

661
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: amount of money that he's making at A and M

662
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: and probably a little bit more. And Jimbo was beloved

663
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: in Bad Brouge, you know, I mean uh, and they

664
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: wanted him, you know, they wanted him so badly that

665
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 1: they were ready to fire Less. And then when Sexton

666
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: wouldn't bring him there because he didn't like the a

667
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: d at the time Joe Aliva uh, that they didn't

668
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: get him, and they wound up bringing Less back and

669
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: then ultimately having dire Or's yourn when they really wanted

670
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: Tom Herman of all people. So this would be maybe

671
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,479
Speaker 1: the time for them to that's the first call. First

672
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: call is to Jimbo. Now say that's a pipe dream

673
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: and it doesn't happen. I think the next guy you

674
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 1: turned to, and I know he's got a little dirt

675
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: on him right now, but the next guy you turned

676
00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: to is James Franklin over my over melt Tucker. I

677
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: think so uh, and remember this about Tucking uh, and

678
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: he's yeah, he's hot now, no doubt. But this would

679
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: be his third job in four years. If you pull

680
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: it's a good point. You know, he was at Colorado

681
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: for like a blink. Now he's at Michigan State, you know.

682
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: And then you bring him in. I don't know that

683
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: possibly pulled it off. Franklin, on the other hand, maybe

684
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: in the midst of wearing out his welcome and Happy

685
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: Valley and he's a buttoned up promoter and and you know,

686
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: chest out leader and is he is he a cultural

687
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: fit down there? You think? I think he really is.

688
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: I think he is. I think there is a sincere

689
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: belief and this is one of the reasons why you're

690
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: hearing Tucker's Name song. You're in Tucker's Name a lot,

691
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: because I think there's a sincere belief that it may

692
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: be time for an African American coach of the football

693
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: program at l s U, which I don't disagree with.

694
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: And the new president at l s U, brand New

695
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: is uh an African American, Okay, and uh I believe

696
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 1: there's uh the potential of that happening. But for me,

697
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: the guy that fits better is the guy that's been

698
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: in the SEC, has succeeded in the SEC. And it's

699
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: not lost on anybody that James Franklin went into Vanderbilt

700
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 1: didn't won nine games in a season. I mean, if

701
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: you can recruit to Nashville, okay, and when nine games, Jason,

702
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: what the hell do you think the guy could do

703
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 1: in that root? Okay, because LSU recruits itself in a

704
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 1: lot of ways and always as personnel. But James Franklin

705
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: with that kind of personnel can do tremendous things. So

706
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: that to me, that's the second call. And Dave A. Randa,

707
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: the former defensive coordinator four ours yourn when they want

708
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 1: it all in nineteen now at Baylor, that's the next call.

709
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: That's the guy after James Franklin. Those are my interesting

710
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: that's not about I had not even considered him. Um uh. Now,

711
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if any of those guys are be

712
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,479
Speaker 1: in the mix we can wrap up with the USC job.

713
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: I don't think any of them other than Franklin really

714
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: makes sense. Well, Franklin would make sense for the very

715
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: same reason as I mentioned that rouge and his bravado,

716
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: his ability, that he's got charisma, He is great with

717
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: the media. That really matters out there, you know that.

718
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 1: And and it's a little swagger, you know, bring back

719
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 1: some of the some of the swagger that USC had

720
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: when Pete was there. And uh, you know that staff

721
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: that he had, and that's the other thing. Being able

722
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: to put together a really great staff. That's that's what

723
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: you can do in a place like l s U.

724
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: It's something you can also do at USC. And and

725
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: there are a lot of contacts in the business that

726
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 1: a guy like James has for U s C. I

727
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: I couldn't get over uh the rants, uh just off

728
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: the charts rant that Stephen A. Smith had about Tomlins

729
00:40:55,320 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: on that uh that that that it was somehow asis

730
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: to imply that Mike Tomlin needed to look at the

731
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: USC job. Uh and and possibly it was time for

732
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: him to leave the NFL. That just implying that with

733
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: a bad thing. I don't get that. And I like Stephen,

734
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: he don't get me wrong, but I just didn't understand that.

735
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: Thankfully I missed that one. Tim. I think the USC

736
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: is a is a is a great job for a

737
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: pro coach, good for a guy like tom I mean,

738
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: look what Pete did. He basically was expunged, right, I

739
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: mean when he when he left the NFL, he had

740
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: to recreate himself through USC, and he did. I think

741
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: energy and enthusiasm, uh and a fresh approach, you know thee.

742
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: The only question with him would be, well, does he

743
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: want to recruit? Does he know how to recruit? And

744
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: I don't know that. I don't know the answer to that.

745
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: Only Mike Tomlin knows the answer to that. But I

746
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: think a pro head coach coming to SC somebody that

747
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: wants to College football is a great game, and you know,

748
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: so much of college footballs has come into the NFL. Yeah,

749
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: a lot of them don't want to admit it, but

750
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 1: that's what's happening. The NFL is looking more and more

751
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,760
Speaker 1: like the college game every time I look at it, definitely. Uh,

752
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 1: and that's that that happening the way it has, I

753
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: think would tells some NFL guys, you know, maybe I

754
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: want to think about because you know, I don't have

755
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,479
Speaker 1: to work as hard. I get a little more time

756
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: off and I'm gonna make how much money at USC? Well, now,

757
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: I guess we could wrap up with you U c

758
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: l A. And that listen, that's a tough one. Chip

759
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: Kelly came from the NFL. Um they want to run

760
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: him out of town. Uh. You know the boosters you

761
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: U c l A. Very influential. Is that even a

762
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: great job? Tim? U c l A. I don't know.

763
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: It's really It's a great school, we know that, but

764
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: is it a good job? Question? Chip. Chip didn't get

765
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 1: all of the things that he thought he was gonna get,

766
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: you know, the tools to work with in the beginning,

767
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 1: he didn't. And uh, I think the facilities issue has

768
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: been problematic at u c l A for a while.

769
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: And and he thought he was gonna get some things

770
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: that you know, my moles have told me he did

771
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 1: not get. Now he did. I think the Dorrian Thompson

772
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: Robinson thing should have and could have gone a lot better,

773
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: and it didn't. Uh. And he put a lot into

774
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: that kid, and it just didn't work out. Uh. But

775
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 1: at the same time, when you're running that kind of offense,

776
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: you can't expect your defense to be, you know, just

777
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: a juggernaut. He can't because you're you're coaching possession football

778
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: and more possessions means your defense has to go out

779
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: there a hell of a lot more and play more plays.

780
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: So I get why there are a lot of disgruntled

781
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: folks out there. But at least with U c l A,

782
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: Chip created a culture offensively. Whole Pack twelve is so

783
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: screwed up right now, I mean it really is. And Uh,

784
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: if I were U c l A, I would especially

785
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 1: their fan base, and I would say this until you

786
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 1: begin to support your program at the rose Ball a

787
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: little bit better. I don't know that she's got a

788
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: right to be that fist off, you know. I don't

789
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: think you've got a right to be that fist off

790
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 1: any one of those teams, any one of those coaches

791
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: at Pack twelve South schools, you know, they got a

792
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: great chance to be better than average and build a

793
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: program because it's so down. I mean, if if if

794
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: herm had done a better job at Arizona State, look

795
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 1: where they would be, right. And I really thought that,

796
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: you know, everybody had their eyes uh crossed when he

797
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 1: got hired, thinking the one that's doesn't sound like it

798
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 1: was a pretty random higher and but you know what,

799
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 1: he was on his way with the personnel. Now he obviously,

800
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: if if the report words that are alleged are true,

801
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: he clearly made some mistakes that even the n c

802
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: a A can't screw up, they're gonna be in trouble.

803
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: But ultimately that division of the PAT twelve the South

804
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: with jobs like you know U C l A, s

805
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: C and Arizona Stake, those are good jobs. Yeah. Where

806
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: they go and who they they get, uh, those are

807
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: you can turn that thing around really quickly. My yeah,

808
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: I was. I mean, I was just looking at the

809
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: U c l A records this century. They have three

810
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: finishes in the top twenty. That's it. Three, That's that's

811
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: what I didn't realize. It was that ghastly. Oh my

812
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: makes you appreciate Terry Donahue, the late Terry. How about

813
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: Bob Toledo had two top ten finished I don't even

814
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 1: know who the quarterback was in the nineties, but you're right,

815
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 1: Terry Donahue. He had a couple of off years in there,

816
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: you know, from time to time, but it happens. But

817
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: I mean you could almost count on U c l

818
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: A to make two of every five Rose Bowls for

819
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: a period of twenty years. That's a great point. Yeah,

820
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: all right, he's Tim Brando. You got Baylor this weekend, Tim, Yeah,

821
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: Baylor at TCU this weekend, and uh we're on that

822
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: sixth day hole to find out where we're gonna be

823
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: for Fox. Yeah alright, Well, Hey, if I if I

824
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: don't talk to you, enjoy the games. Have a great holiday,

825
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: I know, the rush from now through the New Year's, Wild, Thanksgiving, Christmas,

826
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: Be safe, enjoy the family, you too, Jason love. I

827
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: love seeing you in social media with those Those kids

828
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: are yours. Keep it up and thank you all right, Tim,

829
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, Bet,