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Speaker 1: of what is up? Dolphins And welcome to the Drivetime podcast,
Speaker 1: part of the Miami Dolphins podcast Network, covering your team,
Speaker 1: your Miami Dolphins. How's it going everybody? I am your host,
Speaker 1: Travis Wingfield. And on today's show, we're going back over
Speaker 1: to the offensive side of the football. I want to
Speaker 1: review three items that have me believing that year two
Speaker 1: in the offense could be even better than the number
Speaker 1: six ranked offense we saw in year number one. We'll
Speaker 1: discuss that hypothesis and conclusion, plus some more mail bag questions,
Speaker 1: and we begin to get ready for Indianapolis by taking
Speaker 1: a look at our first offensive positions and what we
Speaker 1: expect from them at the combine tight ends and running
Speaker 1: backs as we continue the offensive theme on this pod
Speaker 1: from the PFF Top one hundred big board, and see
Speaker 1: who to keep an eye on during those workouts in
Speaker 1: Indianapolis from the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health
Speaker 1: Training Complex. This is the drivetime. So we've been on
Speaker 1: a defensive kick for a few episodes, really about a
Speaker 1: week and a half now in a row. So let's
Speaker 1: go ahead and go back to the other side of
Speaker 1: the football. And something I had mentioned at the end
Speaker 1: of the season, wanting to do a deep dive at
Speaker 1: the end of the year, And we talked to coach
Speaker 1: Fangio on the podcast last Friday and I asked him
Speaker 1: what about this offense gives opposing defensive coordinator's fits and
Speaker 1: he mentioned the wide receivers and the year that two
Speaker 1: had under center, and obviously starts there with a trigger
Speaker 1: man in his top weapons. Then we also had Jerome
Speaker 1: Baker on a podcast this past week, the Varsity House Podcast,
Speaker 1: and he was asked about when he really realized just
Speaker 1: how fast Tyreek hill is and he detailed a play
Speaker 1: in training camp where Tyreek ran a short indbreaker and
Speaker 1: Jerome knew he had to get to his landmark and
Speaker 1: make the tackle elementary stuff right or tag off, not
Speaker 1: actually make a tackle. But he said that because Tyreek
Speaker 1: can get to full speed by like his third step
Speaker 1: or sooner, that he had to completely change his angle
Speaker 1: and that landmark that had become so second nature on
Speaker 1: that particular route from that particular zone drop to then
Speaker 1: having to run and chase to meet him further downfield
Speaker 1: to improve his angle and give himself a chance to
Speaker 1: make the tackle or in this case a tag off.
Speaker 1: He said that Tyreek and Waddle both offer that. And
Speaker 1: when you have to protect the deep part of the field,
Speaker 1: it makes you vulnerable somewhere else. If you're going to
Speaker 1: add extra pieces one spot, you're going to be vulnerable
Speaker 1: somewhere else. And every time you drop a defense, you
Speaker 1: have vulnerabilities. And that's why the best offensive minds can
Speaker 1: find ways to a tackles vulnerabilities regardless of the personnel
Speaker 1: they have. But when you have to protect an area
Speaker 1: of the field so significantly, and the most dangerous area
Speaker 1: of the field, it's going to create chances elsewhere. I
Speaker 1: think we saw that throughout the course of the season,
Speaker 1: but I think there's even more meat on the bone.
Speaker 1: To use a phrase we like here on the podcast,
Speaker 1: to expand that in your number two. So Tyreke and
Speaker 1: Waddle together and in their second year, that's where I
Speaker 1: really start to get excited about what this offense can be.
Speaker 1: I mean, we saw glimpses this year. We saw a
Speaker 1: record setting pace this year, four straight games, thirty points.
Speaker 1: Last time that happened for this franchise. It's been a
Speaker 1: long long time. I want to circle back to all that,
Speaker 1: but first he also Jerome Baker discussed Tuah and he
Speaker 1: said that he saw all off season was just two
Speaker 1: of putting his head down and putting in the work,
Speaker 1: regardless of outside noise anything, just put the work in.
Speaker 1: And Jerome said he really appreciated the way that Tuah
Speaker 1: comes into the locker room with his head high because
Speaker 1: after everything the media says or all the narratives, Tua
Speaker 1: just goes about his business and does his thing. And
Speaker 1: he said there was a tangible impact behind that. He
Speaker 1: said that Tua took accountability when he made a mistake,
Speaker 1: he would own the airs from the quarterbacks perspective, and
Speaker 1: how far that reached the rest of the locker room
Speaker 1: in terms of a leader who's accountable. Jerome touched on
Speaker 1: all of that and how valuable that is. That's why
Speaker 1: this podcast, this sort of monologue I'm putting together, is
Speaker 1: becoming more about the right kind of people and how
Speaker 1: continuity with those people can push a team forward better
Speaker 1: than really anything else. And I've talked about it many
Speaker 1: many times here on the show that I believe the
Speaker 1: best route to improvement in a given off season is
Speaker 1: improvement from your own incumbents. We saw Jalen Waddle take
Speaker 1: a big step last year. We saw Christian Wilkins get
Speaker 1: even better than he was in year three. We saw
Speaker 1: two a tongue of Bloa take a big jump. That
Speaker 1: type of stuff, and yeah, don't get me wrong, Tyreek
Speaker 1: Hill to Ron Armstad, Connor Williams massive massive impacts. But
Speaker 1: Rob Hunt's development at right guard that was a big
Speaker 1: deal as well, because when you hear this type of speak,
Speaker 1: going back to the podcast from someone like Jerome who's
Speaker 1: been here for five years and everybody respects what Jerome's about,
Speaker 1: so to hear him talk about the quarterback, the way
Speaker 1: that he detailed, the level of respect that he and
Speaker 1: the rest of the organization has for number one, I
Speaker 1: just think that bodes well for the example that you
Speaker 1: have to follow if you're going to be a member
Speaker 1: of the Miami Dolphins, the right type of guys. So
Speaker 1: to bring it back to the receivers, and you know what,
Speaker 1: I have mentioned this quote so many times, So why
Speaker 1: don't I go ahead and run the audio for you here.
Speaker 1: I want to go back to Mike McDaniel, and I
Speaker 1: asked him this question on November twenty eighth, what was
Speaker 1: the most notable sign of growth that Jalen Waddle showed
Speaker 1: you this year? And it was following I think the
Speaker 1: Texans game. Yeah, the Texans game, and Tua had mentioned
Speaker 1: Waddle's attention to detail in his postgame press conference, and
Speaker 1: so the following Monday, on the twenty eighth, I asked
Speaker 1: McDaniel about the most tangible or most notable sign of
Speaker 1: growth he saw this year from Jalen Waddle. Let's go
Speaker 1: ahead and play that sound real quick right after the break,
Speaker 1: you know, over the break. I really I was interested.
Speaker 1: He's an I love the way he worked in OTA's
Speaker 1: and you know, it's very very high on him coming
Speaker 1: out of college and had and it was obvious an
Speaker 1: OTAs that I really liked the human being and definitely
Speaker 1: believed in him really coming back from summer break and
Speaker 1: you don't have any time to learn or and you
Speaker 1: don't assume anything. I didn't know how he's going to
Speaker 1: come back, because that can be a very huge, huge
Speaker 1: time for a receiver, a young receiver, especially in a
Speaker 1: new offense. Is what do you do over between OTAs
Speaker 1: and training camp to prayer yourself for an NFL season?
Speaker 1: And I was as encouraged by his I was as
Speaker 1: encouraged by him as any other player in terms of
Speaker 1: how he came back ready to play. So it was
Speaker 1: obvious early and he's as we've gone on, very talented
Speaker 1: players aren't allays that that hungry to be coached. You
Speaker 1: get you have a lot of success as a very
Speaker 1: talented player, and a lot of times, you know, I've
Speaker 1: experienced players feeling as though coaching is an insult. He
Speaker 1: is quite the opposite. You know, he keeps learning each
Speaker 1: and every week, and he is not. It's always a
Speaker 1: guy has a chance to be really really good and
Speaker 1: chase greatness in this league, if you have a ton
Speaker 1: of talent, but you're constantly hoping that yesterday's version was
Speaker 1: the worst version of yourself that you'll see moving forward,
Speaker 1: that you're constantly getting better. And that's something that he
Speaker 1: has proven to his teammates that he he's a really
Speaker 1: good player. We have to rely on him to make
Speaker 1: plays for us to play the style of football we
Speaker 1: want to play, and his teammates rely on him and
Speaker 1: trust him, and I know that each and every week
Speaker 1: he's going to put his best foot forward to be
Speaker 1: the best version of himself. Yesterday offered a great opportunity
Speaker 1: for him to improve. There was some stuff in the
Speaker 1: game that he'll tell you that he definitely could have
Speaker 1: done better, and some situations that he encountered that was
Speaker 1: the first time in the offense that he encountered this season.
Speaker 1: So there's timing nuances and route running nuances that he's
Speaker 1: going to continue to progress. And that's why we got
Speaker 1: the Dolphin's got a good one in him. And the
Speaker 1: reason I wanted to play that sound drop and the
Speaker 1: reason I'm talking about all this, The way I am
Speaker 1: is really multifaceted. In fact, it's three prong For the
Speaker 1: sake of specificity. Specificity number one is the proof in
Speaker 1: the pudding in terms of previous Shanahan McDaniel stops and
Speaker 1: the second year jumps they've experienced in their offensive production.
Speaker 1: And this is where I really wanted to start and
Speaker 1: kind of the I suppose the driving force behind this
Speaker 1: little research project I put together to show you the
Speaker 1: tangible increases in production for teams playing in the second
Speaker 1: year of this particular offensive system. And granted they always
Speaker 1: are different with their own fingerprints on them, but generally speaking,
Speaker 1: the same offensive principles exist across the board with these
Speaker 1: same coaches, right Shanahan, McDaniel, O'Connell and mcveagher, Kim in
Speaker 1: that same vein you get it, Lafleur, all those guys.
Speaker 1: But as I researched it more, I realized my point
Speaker 1: was actually more about two other things as well, and
Speaker 1: they are this number two. The conventional wisdom shared by
Speaker 1: so many of the greats, the typical does take some
Speaker 1: time to really get your offense to become second nature.
Speaker 1: We're talking about being able to understand the verbiage, the
Speaker 1: checks concepts without having to give it a second thought
Speaker 1: to it makes a change. I know right away. Boom.
Speaker 1: That means I have to take this whip route and
Speaker 1: turn it into a conversion to a corner route to
Speaker 1: make sure I hold that cloud corner on the flat
Speaker 1: rob we want to throw underneath to Jaylan Waddle, That's
Speaker 1: just an example, right, Like, think of it this way.
Speaker 1: You get a new job, or you move to a
Speaker 1: new house, all of a sudden, you have new paths
Speaker 1: to take on your commute. You have a new grocery
Speaker 1: store you have to go to. You have to find
Speaker 1: the route to your favorite new restaurant you're going to
Speaker 1: go pick up from You have to find the route
Speaker 1: that's best to go pick up your kids from school.
Speaker 1: It can be overwhelming, right Or learning a new job,
Speaker 1: learning the new process. It's learning a new operating system
Speaker 1: within your company, you know, especially for me the moving
Speaker 1: aspect moving from rural central Washington to busy Broward County.
Speaker 1: All those U turns and freeway entrances and exits, the
Speaker 1: commutes got confusing and I had to look at my
Speaker 1: phone for g PS often. Now being here for a
Speaker 1: little while, I barely ever use my GPS. I went
Speaker 1: to Tamrack to play golf last weekend at Colony West
Speaker 1: didn't need to use my GPS. I just looked up
Speaker 1: the address and said, oh, I just have to go
Speaker 1: down seventy five. I have to take the Sawgrass exit
Speaker 1: or through towards Parkland and just take that exit right
Speaker 1: there off of is it Broward Boulevard and the courses
Speaker 1: right there off the left, So like, same idea, like
Speaker 1: rather than thinking about where it is and having to
Speaker 1: process and then react. Second year in the offense is
Speaker 1: like second year in a new house or a new job.
Speaker 1: I know how to get to public's, I know the
Speaker 1: best route to take to work. If the you know,
Speaker 1: if there's an accident, our things are backed up. It
Speaker 1: becomes second nature, not just in the original thought, but
Speaker 1: the way you adapt and adjust on the fly. And
Speaker 1: the third thing was I think we have the right
Speaker 1: people here to make that jump very noticeable. What coach
Speaker 1: said about Jalen Waddle, We've heard that before. I've been
Speaker 1: rewatching the games. I just rewatched the Steelers game, and
Speaker 1: you heard Collinsworth on the NBC broadcast mentioned his pre
Speaker 1: production meeting with Mike McDaniel and how Tyreek Hill taught
Speaker 1: them how to practice. He just meant, you know how
Speaker 1: to compete on a rep by rep basis like, No,
Speaker 1: this is how you do it when you're a seven
Speaker 1: time All Pro or seven time Pro bowler. I mentioned Waddle.
Speaker 1: I mentioned the Baker Podcast for this reason too. Seeing
Speaker 1: Tua go through his pregame visualization each week five hours
Speaker 1: before kickoff. You see the way the guys talk about
Speaker 1: their quarterback. It's clear that they believe in what he's
Speaker 1: all about. And you earn that through your actions. Torn Armstead,
Speaker 1: we spoke about him earlier. Another guy like this, and
Speaker 1: you know, speaking of Tarn at his last presser, I
Speaker 1: asked him what it says about the locker room that
Speaker 1: twenty five percent of the players earned a vote for
Speaker 1: our annual Good Guy Award, which is the player that
Speaker 1: is the easiest to work with and exhibits the most
Speaker 1: professionalism during their media availabilities with the press, and so
Speaker 1: Torn won that award, But twenty five percent of the
Speaker 1: locker room received vote. That was the most ever. And
Speaker 1: I asked heron about that, What does it say about
Speaker 1: the guys you have here in that locker room. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're getting the right people in the building. We're getting
Speaker 1: the right people in the building. You know, people that
Speaker 1: respect the game, respect that has played, and all the
Speaker 1: nuances of it on and off the field. It's important.
Speaker 1: It's extremely important to have that in the locker room.
Speaker 1: Guys that can articulate communicate showed that respect, you know,
Speaker 1: through the ups and downs, because we went through five
Speaker 1: year one streak, five game losing streaks. So to have
Speaker 1: so many guys that up for an award like this
Speaker 1: speaks volumes to the team. So why do I spend
Speaker 1: all that time covering all of this? Because I think
Speaker 1: the combination of the complexity of an offense that a
Speaker 1: significant portion of our returning personnel made to be the
Speaker 1: number six ranked offense in the NFL. Now they get
Speaker 1: a full calendar year with their own tape to go
Speaker 1: off of. They're not watching someone else execute this offense.
Speaker 1: They're watching themselves do it. They I have to say, oh,
Speaker 1: that's a movement unnatural to me. I made that move.
Speaker 1: I can correct that this way, I can drill that
Speaker 1: this way. I think that pays dividends more than just
Speaker 1: about anything you can do this offseason unless you bring
Speaker 1: another Tyreek hillin. I've been saying this for years. Your
Speaker 1: biggest improvements year over year typically come from improvements of
Speaker 1: the incumbents. And that's the case here, and if it's
Speaker 1: the case here, I think you have to feel very
Speaker 1: good about where the number six offense in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: two can go to in number twenty twenty three. Let's
Speaker 1: go ahead and take our first break right there and
Speaker 1: come back. We'll revisit the two bullet points that I
Speaker 1: mentioned already. I think we already kind of proved number
Speaker 1: three with the right kind of people here. We'll go
Speaker 1: back and revisit bullet points number one and two. That's
Speaker 1: next Drivetime podcast, your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you
Speaker 1: by Auto Nation, doing something of a deep dive here
Speaker 1: on the podcast, taking a look at expectations for a
Speaker 1: year number two and the possibilities of growth and improvement
Speaker 1: and the continuity that could contribute to that potential improvement.
Speaker 1: So we talked about the third bullet point right getting
Speaker 1: the right kind of people in the building. Tyreek Hill
Speaker 1: giving you the perfect example for how to practice to
Speaker 1: a tongue of byloa just putting in work after work
Speaker 1: after work, all off season before the games, to run
Speaker 1: armstead being an extension of the coaching staff on the field,
Speaker 1: an example of how to be a pro and go
Speaker 1: about your business, and on and on and on. The
Speaker 1: first bullet point, though, was the idea that this offense
Speaker 1: is relatively complex, and the more time you spend in it,
Speaker 1: the more time you know. To take the right before
Speaker 1: the busy intersection to get to publics because it's a
Speaker 1: quicker access driver on the backside of the building. You
Speaker 1: don't have to deal with the shopping mall traffic ahead
Speaker 1: of the publics. These are things that I do to
Speaker 1: get to my public's faster. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I know this because I have familiarity with my surroundings
Speaker 1: and my situation, so I go back frequently to something
Speaker 1: I heard ESPN's Jeff Darlington's say on a local radio
Speaker 1: show down here. I want to say it was Zach
Speaker 1: Krantz's Instagram show, but he said the Dolphins are knocking
Speaker 1: on the door. When it comes to Mike McDaniel, that
Speaker 1: was his first year, and a system like McDaniels or
Speaker 1: Shanahan out in San Francisco, it requires some time both
Speaker 1: in instituting the system and another offseason to keep adding
Speaker 1: guys that fit that system. They've got a lot to
Speaker 1: build upon. I think what we saw this year was
Speaker 1: a blueprint, not a conclusive outcome of what this team
Speaker 1: can be and quote and that blueprint comment is the
Speaker 1: one that I really harkened back to Tom Harkin, the
Speaker 1: one that made me rubberneck a little bit. I've heard
Speaker 1: that same sentiment not just from people I know in
Speaker 1: the media sphere, but people that I classify to be
Speaker 1: expert analyst of the game. The difficulty of the system
Speaker 1: and of making it seem like it's second nature to
Speaker 1: you to know to cut that public's cut short that
Speaker 1: turned to the public's parking lot, take the first one
Speaker 1: off the second one. And I think about, you know,
Speaker 1: scoring those thirty points in four straight games while you're
Speaker 1: still making all that happened to me, that's a lot
Speaker 1: of reason for optimism. And I asked coach about this
Speaker 1: at the end of the year presser, and he described
Speaker 1: the offensive line play as having to retrain everything you
Speaker 1: had previously learned in your football life. And I think
Speaker 1: about how that could probably speak to some of the
Speaker 1: waves you saw in moments during the running game this
Speaker 1: year and the ups and downs and potentially putting that
Speaker 1: together more consistently. Man, we had some games where it
Speaker 1: looked like you were creating lanes like Ricky Williams had
Speaker 1: in two thousand and two other games. It was just
Speaker 1: a struggle. You have to imagine another year, another offseason
Speaker 1: to not just work on the fundamentals of that style,
Speaker 1: but to have a full year of tape on yourself
Speaker 1: to evaluate. I just have to imagine that plays dividends.
Speaker 1: And so I got to looking at year one to
Speaker 1: year two jumps for every stop that McDaniel was, you know,
Speaker 1: at in his career, among the places he was at
Speaker 1: for two years, and it starts in Washington in two eleven,
Speaker 1: two twelve, from sixteenth and offense to fifth. Pretty good.
Speaker 1: He was in Cleveland for twenty fourteen. They were only
Speaker 1: there for that one year, but man, that Brown's team
Speaker 1: was the most fun Browns team to watch in like
Speaker 1: a decade. At that point. They went seven to nine.
Speaker 1: It was their most wins in seven years to that point,
Speaker 1: and the most wins they would have for another four year.
Speaker 1: So literally their best record in ten years was the
Speaker 1: one year that they had McDaniel and Shanahan there. And
Speaker 1: we've heard the accounts of Andrew Hawkins and Nate Burlison
Speaker 1: and the other receivers who played in that room. I
Speaker 1: think Taylor Gabriel was another. Just they loved what Mike
Speaker 1: McDonel's all about in Atlanta twenty fifteen to twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: from seventh to second, I mean, you see what we're
Speaker 1: going forward. That's that's kind of your I think baseline
Speaker 1: looking at here is the twenty sixteen Falcons which went
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl and had that twenty eight to
Speaker 1: three lead. From an offensive perspective, if you can see
Speaker 1: a similar jump there, and that was the same. They
Speaker 1: had Matt Ryan and established good quarterback like we have here.
Speaker 1: They had a pretty good offensive line that they continue
Speaker 1: to put pieces around. They had a really solid running game.
Speaker 1: That's where I think Miami has some ground to make
Speaker 1: up in the tight end room as well. But they
Speaker 1: also had Julio Jones, like we've got Tyreek Hill. Shoot,
Speaker 1: who was our second option that year in the receiving game.
Speaker 1: I don't I can't remember who it was, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't Jalen Waddle. They can tell you that much. Then
Speaker 1: they took the head job Kyle Shanahan did and Mike
Speaker 1: McDaniel the running game quarrier job for the Niners in
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen twenty eighteen, they were from twelfth to sixteenth.
Speaker 1: And that's the one regression, but you know context because
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen was the year they traded for Jimmy Garoppolo,
Speaker 1: and what did they do in his second year of
Speaker 1: the system in twenty nineteen when they found their quarterback.
Speaker 1: Just the number four offense in the NFL. Something I've
Speaker 1: taught myself in this little study, as they always started
Speaker 1: off really well, because look at the year before they arrived.
Speaker 1: The twenty ten Washington team was twenty fifth. So Washington
Speaker 1: went from twenty fifth before their arrival to sixteenth in
Speaker 1: their first year to fifth in their second year. The
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen Falcons were twelfth, then to seventh, then to
Speaker 1: second in the second year, and the twenty sixteen nine
Speaker 1: ers thirty first up to twelfth to sixteenth. It's pretty
Speaker 1: good growth. It's not just Jeff Darlington who notes the
Speaker 1: importance of continenting offense. It's former players and coaches who
Speaker 1: have done at a high level as well. And that's
Speaker 1: bullet point number two. Quotes from people talking about year
Speaker 1: two in an offense, and I refer often to Peyton
Speaker 1: Manning in the Manning cast and it was a Lions
Speaker 1: and I think Packers game two years ago, and he
Speaker 1: was talking about Jared Goff in the twenty twenty one
Speaker 1: Lions offense and how for him it was always sometime
Speaker 1: around year two where the offense felt second nature. Well,
Speaker 1: Jared Goff this year in the Lions start off one
Speaker 1: and six and then what do they finish? It was
Speaker 1: at nine and eight, eight and nine, maybe it was
Speaker 1: their final record, and their offense was absolutely on fire
Speaker 1: in the second half of the season, as we saw
Speaker 1: in the game that Miami beat them. Their offense was
Speaker 1: going up and down the field. But I found this
Speaker 1: quote from Peyton Manning when he first joined the Broncos
Speaker 1: about learning a new offense. The question was specifically if
Speaker 1: he felt the same way he did in Indian terms
Speaker 1: of his preparation heading into the season. Here's the quote,
Speaker 1: No way, no way. It's possible when you have new coaches,
Speaker 1: new players, new offense. It's been energizing to be back
Speaker 1: on the field, but it's very challenging with all the changes.
Speaker 1: It's not comfortable all the time. What about Peyton Manning's
Speaker 1: greatest rival, Tom Brady. Here's what Brady said, when he
Speaker 1: first got to the Bucks. I've got to learn new players,
Speaker 1: I've got to learn the scheme. So that's where all
Speaker 1: my time and energy is going to be focused. And
Speaker 1: also learning my teammates, learning guys like Mike Evans, Chris Godwin,
Speaker 1: O J Howard, Cameron Brad, a lot of the skill players,
Speaker 1: running back Ronald Jones, and obviously the offensive line, who's
Speaker 1: a very talented group. How about Raiders head coach Josh McDaniels,
Speaker 1: previously OC of the Patriots, one of the best offensive
Speaker 1: minds we've seen in this century. Here's what he said
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago when talking about his quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: particularly Cam Newton, in year two of the offense. It's
Speaker 1: a lot less new learning every day, more repetition of things.
Speaker 1: He already understands. Things slow down, things make more sense.
Speaker 1: There were things I was telling him to do last
Speaker 1: year that he didn't quite understand, but I was telling him, hey,
Speaker 1: do it this way, try and do it that way.
Speaker 1: Make him the mic whatever. He was just trying to
Speaker 1: do everything I said and not thinking can cause, you know,
Speaker 1: not the quickest reaction. McDaniel's continue in that same story.
Speaker 1: Now he actually understands the why on most things. That
Speaker 1: is really the goal for the quarterbacks when you're out
Speaker 1: there trying to read defense on a play to play basis,
Speaker 1: If you don't understand why we're doing something or why
Speaker 1: you're supposed to make the protection slide here or there,
Speaker 1: it's a tough position to play. So you can really
Speaker 1: find this from anyone if you look hard enough. I
Speaker 1: found some from Joe Burrow and Jalen Hurtz. Recently, I
Speaker 1: went back and found some Chad Henny talking points about
Speaker 1: his second year in two thousand and nine. In fact,
Speaker 1: this from the Palm Beach Post story that was that
Speaker 1: I found on the Google machine. His biggest growth has
Speaker 1: come with his complete understanding of the offense at game speed,
Speaker 1: said wide receiver Greg Camarrio. You can only get that
Speaker 1: through game reps. The point I'm making, or trying to make,
Speaker 1: is that the second year typically comes along with some
Speaker 1: natural progression just from the familiarity, especially when you're in
Speaker 1: the position Miami is with a quarterback, the top two receivers,
Speaker 1: most of the offensive line, all those key players are
Speaker 1: returning in the same system, and I think that has
Speaker 1: an abundance of value for the Miami Dolphins in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three. Let's go ahead and take our last break
Speaker 1: and come back on the other side. We'll answer a
Speaker 1: couple of your mail bad questions. I didn't get to
Speaker 1: all of them on Monday, and I didn't get to
Speaker 1: all of them here either, but I want to answer
Speaker 1: some more and also take our first look at the
Speaker 1: scouting combine in Indianapolis with the tight ends and running
Speaker 1: backs and who I expect to have big workouts. That's
Speaker 1: next Drivetime Podcast, your host, Travis Wingfield, brought to you
Speaker 1: by Auto Nation, segment number three here on a Wednesday.
Speaker 1: This time next week, I will be in Indianapolis with
Speaker 1: a couple of the guys from the video staff, myself,
Speaker 1: Mike and JT. Couple of guys I played golf with
Speaker 1: a lot we are going up to. Indeed, we're gonna
Speaker 1: get a ton of interviews with a ton of top
Speaker 1: level talent from the biggest networks, and I can't wait
Speaker 1: to bring it to you guys. Gonna be a lot
Speaker 1: of fun content here on the podcast as we continue
Speaker 1: to head so fast towards the off season, the new
Speaker 1: league year draft season. I can't believe the combines here
Speaker 1: already and as it stands right now, we know the
Speaker 1: draft order through the first three rounds, shy of some
Speaker 1: comp picks or coin flips that will break some ties
Speaker 1: that honestly I don't care about it because it does
Speaker 1: not involve the Miami Dolphins. But the draft site Tankathon
Speaker 1: does have the order with all of these strength of
Speaker 1: schedule tiebreakers and things that differentiate how the rounds alternate
Speaker 1: draft order, and the Dolphins have the fifty second pick
Speaker 1: in the second round and the seventy eight and eighty
Speaker 1: fifth overall picks in the third round, and we'll know
Speaker 1: the slots of the other picks once comp picks are
Speaker 1: all divvied up and all that stuff. But for the
Speaker 1: sake of this exercise and the trip to Indianapolis, I
Speaker 1: wanted to look at the top one hundred big board
Speaker 1: from Pro Football Focus and just talk about the different
Speaker 1: players that we'll see work out an Indie and I thought,
Speaker 1: why not start at the running back position. So on
Speaker 1: PF they have number eighteen B Jean Robinson, and it's
Speaker 1: hard to find a more complete player than this guy.
Speaker 1: He's going to demolish the combine. I expect us to
Speaker 1: get to the end of the on field work from
Speaker 1: the running backs, and you'll just see Robinson Robinson Robinson
Speaker 1: for all the category leaders, every metric. He moves unlike
Speaker 1: anybody else in this class, aside from the guy we're
Speaker 1: going to talk about here in a second, Jamir Gibbs.
Speaker 1: The lateral agility I think should produce great numbers and
Speaker 1: all the explosive metrics. You go watch his tape at Texas,
Speaker 1: he gets to gaps and holes that just doesn't really
Speaker 1: make a lot of sense from a science and gravity standpoint.
Speaker 1: He's also strong as hell. If he does bench which
Speaker 1: less and less players are doing the bench press, I
Speaker 1: expect him to perform in that area too, And it
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter which tape you watch of this guy.
Speaker 1: He was so dominant in college that it's pretty easy
Speaker 1: to pick up his game and translate it to the
Speaker 1: next level. We saw Breece Hall have a big impact.
Speaker 1: I think this guy is exponentially more talented than the
Speaker 1: running back from Iowa State last year number fifty four
Speaker 1: on this list, Zach Charbonnet from UCLA. He's had a
Speaker 1: long college career. He has a pretty heavy workload, and
Speaker 1: I'm not sure he's going to be the workout monster
Speaker 1: that you'll get from Robinson and Gibbs. But if there's
Speaker 1: a back in college with better vision and field than Charbonnat,
Speaker 1: I haven't really seen that yet. He does build to
Speaker 1: speed in the open field, but his subtle jump cuts
Speaker 1: allow him to maintain momentum while attacking the lion scrimmage.
Speaker 1: I think he'll have a great metrics in the broad
Speaker 1: and vertical jumps, and that can be a carryover of balance,
Speaker 1: and this dude's tape is just full of balance and
Speaker 1: slipping tackles. There's a clip against Stanford this year where
Speaker 1: he sticks his foot in the ground to cut back
Speaker 1: from a forced defender forcing him back inside, and there's
Speaker 1: a big defensive linemen in the way that Christian Wilkins
Speaker 1: does this pursuing from the backside, and when he cuts back,
Speaker 1: the lineman goes over the top of his back and
Speaker 1: Charbonnet stays on balance and keeps trucking. He is incredibly
Speaker 1: strong in the lower half. Is most of these running
Speaker 1: backs tend to be. Number fifty seven is maybe my
Speaker 1: favorite player in the draft that I've watched so far,
Speaker 1: Jamir Gibbs from Alabama. The explosiveness and the big plays
Speaker 1: are there, every single game. I think he's gonna tear
Speaker 1: up Indie. It's gonna be Gibbs and Robinson a top
Speaker 1: year workout boards if he asks me, both in the
Speaker 1: metric testing and the onfield drills. I think you can
Speaker 1: get out of love for what he does in the
Speaker 1: route running aspect, because you go back to the Tennessee
Speaker 1: tape and you'll see tons of that. Just him leaving
Speaker 1: linebacker is in coverage in the dust. He's a second
Speaker 1: college football The last three years, among draft eligible backs
Speaker 1: of the combine, in terms of receiving first downs, he
Speaker 1: had forty two. Deuce Vaughn had forty eight. I think
Speaker 1: he'll absolutely light up the three cone, the short, shuttle,
Speaker 1: the broad, the vertical, everything that points to explosive, quick, twitch,
Speaker 1: start stop, all of those buzzwords that we love. Jamir
Speaker 1: Gibbs has that in spades and the way he can
Speaker 1: kind of stretch a play out and it matches so
Speaker 1: well with the stretch zone, the inside zone concepts that
Speaker 1: we run here. Man, he'd be a great fit. If
Speaker 1: he's there at fifty two, I would personally run the
Speaker 1: card up and turn that thing in. But of course
Speaker 1: we have a long way to go in the process,
Speaker 1: probably won't be there. I'm sure things change a lot
Speaker 1: from now till then as well, so as it stands
Speaker 1: right now, this is This is my guy in the
Speaker 1: draft class number seventy seven, Seawan Tucker out of Syracuse.
Speaker 1: I feel similar to him about is the way I
Speaker 1: said about Zach Charbonet. Not sure the combined numbers will explode,
Speaker 1: but he has a chance to check all the physical
Speaker 1: boxes because they'll probably weigh in at two hundred and
Speaker 1: ten pounds. He also has great breakaway speed, so could
Speaker 1: run a four four if he does that. He's a
Speaker 1: Day two pick all day. When he got into space
Speaker 1: last year on that fast track at Syracuse, he was gone.
Speaker 1: He's so built in the lower half that's hard to
Speaker 1: imagine anything but really good jumping metrics and look running
Speaker 1: backs is some of the world's most impressive specimens. I
Speaker 1: expect all of these top guys to test well, and
Speaker 1: that includes Tank Bigsby, just an absolute specimen out of Auburn,
Speaker 1: number eighty on the Pro Football Focus list. Now for
Speaker 1: on field drills, this typically he doesn't translate as well
Speaker 1: in terms of the body type that he is, but
Speaker 1: the combine doesn't measure the patience and vision, which is
Speaker 1: where I think Tank really pairs his physical prowess effectively.
Speaker 1: This guy's gonna be a great short yard back at
Speaker 1: the next level. I'll be curious to see his broad
Speaker 1: and vertical numbers and number one hundred Devin eighth chain
Speaker 1: from Texas A and M. He's gonna need some good
Speaker 1: times because unlike Bigsby and Tucker, he's one eighty five.
Speaker 1: But that shouldn't be a problem. His tape is chock
Speaker 1: full of huge runs where he outraces the defense. He
Speaker 1: made some big plays in the passing game last year.
Speaker 1: I can think back to the Arkansas victory in September
Speaker 1: where he had some big time plays in that game.
Speaker 1: That's probably keeping a close eye on this guy, how
Speaker 1: he performs and all the time metrics, but also the
Speaker 1: on field receiving drills. It's a great class of running
Speaker 1: backs guys. We'll see what the Dolphin's doing free agency,
Speaker 1: but there's some options here to go this way. I
Speaker 1: also like TYJ Spears out of two lane. He's not
Speaker 1: top one hundred, but another guy that think's gonna work
Speaker 1: out very well in Indianapolis. Speaking of receiving skills, how
Speaker 1: about a position that majors in that area, Well, I
Speaker 1: guess double majors. The top one hundred tight ends according
Speaker 1: to Pro Football Focus starts number seventeen Michael Mayer from
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. He'll be a first round pick. Some of
Speaker 1: the best college tight end tape we've seen in some time.
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitt's notwithstanding, because I'm talking about all three phases
Speaker 1: pass routes, pass, pro, run, block, all that stuff. When
Speaker 1: I plug on his tape, it's not some flash of
Speaker 1: athletic ability that really jumps off the tape. It's more
Speaker 1: consistent pad level routes, leverage. It's just kind of a
Speaker 1: subtle way to win. He kind of reminds me of
Speaker 1: Jason Witten in that way. Everything that coincides with production
Speaker 1: with a productive player. Mayor seems to excel at that.
Speaker 1: He'll probably go in the first round, even if the
Speaker 1: testing isn't as impressive as some of his contemporaries. But
Speaker 1: man won a player best tape in this class. And
Speaker 1: speaking of guys that will blow up the combine, Luke
Speaker 1: Musgrave number thirty one overall here out of Oregon State,
Speaker 1: a player I am incredibly excited about, and I think
Speaker 1: he'll blow the doors off of Indie. He was a
Speaker 1: state champion long jumper and triple jumper in high school.
Speaker 1: Also excelled in lacrosse an alpine skiing, like just the
Speaker 1: ultimate freak athlete, and he packages all of that in
Speaker 1: at six foot six, two hundred and fifty pounds. Bruce
Speaker 1: Feldman wrote his Freaks List, he was number twenty seven.
Speaker 1: Was Luke Musgrave on that this year ten one and
Speaker 1: three quarters broad jump, four five one at that size,
Speaker 1: four point two one agility score, thirty six and a
Speaker 1: half inch vertical jump. This guy is going to be
Speaker 1: I think the star of Indie. Number thirty six, Dalton
Speaker 1: Kinkade from Utah and watching this guy dominate down the
Speaker 1: seams in the Pac twell for years. He runs routes
Speaker 1: like a wide receiver. High points to football as well
Speaker 1: as anybody, and when you watch his tape there's a
Speaker 1: clear translation for a workout beast. I think his change
Speaker 1: of direction, the three cone drill, the Verton broad jumps
Speaker 1: to he uses to get on top of safeties and
Speaker 1: linebackers will show itself in the workouts this year. He's
Speaker 1: a big play tight end that made that happen with
Speaker 1: athletic ability and fluidity to his game. So I think
Speaker 1: all of his testing metrics, his side to side, lateral agility,
Speaker 1: and then if you look at his run after catch two,
Speaker 1: it's just he's just a pure athlete and potentially another
Speaker 1: first round draft pick here at this position. Another player
Speaker 1: I disagree on their ranking number fifty two Darnell Washington
Speaker 1: from Georgia. Both he and Jamir Gibbs are in the fifties,
Speaker 1: which great. I would love to get one of those
Speaker 1: guys there, but I think both guys are first round picks. Personally,
Speaker 1: he might be my favorite player in the entire class
Speaker 1: because he just makes no sense. He's six seven, he's
Speaker 1: two hundred and eighty pounds, he runs like a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: It makes no sense. There are clips of him on
Speaker 1: tape just using like a basic forearm shiver to wipe
Speaker 1: out a defensive back on a second level. Like personally, again,
Speaker 1: I think fifty two is way too low, and I
Speaker 1: think that will change after he works out when he
Speaker 1: runs and jumps the times and distances that he will
Speaker 1: at that size, I think he'll climb up a lot
Speaker 1: of boards. Watch for him and Indy as a guy
Speaker 1: that could be the biggest mover. He is an absolute
Speaker 1: freak who I don't think he was had his skill
Speaker 1: set totally amplified at Georgia. I think if you go
Speaker 1: to the tape and watch it, you'll see it that
Speaker 1: way because of his inline blocking work. But I think
Speaker 1: there's even more meat on the bone, especially when it
Speaker 1: comes to the red zone for this absolute freak of
Speaker 1: nature and the number seventy four Sam Laporta out of Iowa.
Speaker 1: I don't think he'll work out that great. His tape
Speaker 1: doesn't scream four four. He's just kind of like Michael
Speaker 1: Mayer in the sense that he just understands leverage and
Speaker 1: pad level and routes and timing and pacing and his
Speaker 1: release package all that stuff. Also an absolute monster with
Speaker 1: the football in his hands. But I don't think he'll
Speaker 1: test that well. He could be an other day two
Speaker 1: options there. So I think a lot of guys in
Speaker 1: this group probably require the fifty second pick at both
Speaker 1: these positions. I'm not really one from mock drafts this
Speaker 1: time of year, but both Washing and Gibbs are in
Speaker 1: that range, you know, per the Pro Football Focus big board.
Speaker 1: Either of them would give the offense a huge shot
Speaker 1: in the arm. Bijean and Musgrave could be long gone.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're not. Either way, both of these position groups
Speaker 1: are deep and loaded the top. Sometimes that can push
Speaker 1: the entire class down the board a little bit. Again,
Speaker 1: this is all for previewing Indianapolis, but I do think
Speaker 1: the combination of the running back tight end position could
Speaker 1: produce a name at fifty two that would get people
Speaker 1: really excited. And I think you kind of have to
Speaker 1: play into that with free agency. We'll see what happens
Speaker 1: with Raheem and Jeff Wilson and Savan and Miles, the
Speaker 1: entire rooms free agents. But I kind of like how
Speaker 1: this stacks up at these two position groups because you
Speaker 1: can make your attempts at your moves and free agency
Speaker 1: and then circle back and say, well, we didn't get this.
Speaker 1: The draft can be a good resource to go find that.
Speaker 1: But again, draft good players, don't draft based on need.
Speaker 1: Just take the best players. Man. Okay, let's go ahead
Speaker 1: and finish up here with a couple of male bad questions,
Speaker 1: because you guys put a couple more good ones out here.
Speaker 1: I wanted to answer first from Gabe Genevec Gay. Hope
Speaker 1: you're well man, it's been a minute. He's at Gabe
Speaker 1: Geno thirteen. He asks in a unique way. The addition
Speaker 1: of Fangio will help too, from the standpoint that he'll
Speaker 1: get to practice against a style of defense that he
Speaker 1: hasn't been sharp against in the past. Would you agree, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do not, in the sense that this defense has
Speaker 1: always kind of tripped up to h I think some
Speaker 1: of his worst tapes have been against you know, Fangio
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty last year against the Chargers. I don't
Speaker 1: think you can understate the value of having a great
Speaker 1: coaching staff with years of experience and accomplishments for exactly
Speaker 1: this reason, And per report from ESPN's Adam Schefter, the
Speaker 1: Dolphins will be bringing over Ronaldo Hill, by the way,
Speaker 1: a long time fan and me is over the movement
Speaker 1: that higher. He was an integral part of the two
Speaker 1: thou eight AFC East Championship. But that's something you get
Speaker 1: from the staff. And each time I'd ask either Frank
Speaker 1: Smith or Darryl Bevil about or you know whoever about
Speaker 1: working together, that's something they would all say. They collaborate
Speaker 1: around everything in building this Miami Dolphins offense, and same
Speaker 1: thing on the defense. That would absolutely carry over from
Speaker 1: the other side of the football. I would think so
Speaker 1: when Ronaldo Hill or Vic Fangio comes in and says,
Speaker 1: here's what we did in that game, or I should say,
Speaker 1: just Hill, here are the vulnerabilities, here's how we don't
Speaker 1: want you to attack us. And then two can take
Speaker 1: what we talked about previously with that tireless work ethic
Speaker 1: and just go improved another aspect of his game. That's
Speaker 1: the off seasons four. Working on what you're good at,
Speaker 1: for sure, but also picking up a few things that
Speaker 1: you've highlighted for improvement and drilling those until they come
Speaker 1: out of that you quote unquote weakness category. I think
Speaker 1: it works on the best staffs both ways. Here's how
Speaker 1: we attack you, and then come up with answers based
Speaker 1: upon that approach. Great question, Gabe, I think it has
Speaker 1: a lot of validity to that. At Kevin MD four,
Speaker 1: he has a fun one. What's up, keV, look forward
Speaker 1: to seeing you and Indie. He asked me give me
Speaker 1: football positions for Pinkman, Heisenberg, Saul, Mike and Freeing. Oh
Speaker 1: that's great. Where are they lining up? Let's see. Pinkman
Speaker 1: is my emotional captain of the defense. I'm thinking my
Speaker 1: safety like he wears his heart on his sleeve, So
Speaker 1: I'm picturing Buddha Baker at his emotional hard Knocks speech
Speaker 1: this year. So he's my free safety. Heisenberg's the quarterback
Speaker 1: because he thinks of everything. He knows everybody's job. He
Speaker 1: knows where you need to line up. He can correct
Speaker 1: when you're wrong on a play. He knows your rules.
Speaker 1: He can fix the airs of everyone based upon his
Speaker 1: mental prowess. I've got Saul Goodman as my offensive guard
Speaker 1: because he does the dirty work. Actually, let's call him
Speaker 1: the fullback. He does all the stuff that's so critical,
Speaker 1: but gets the least amount of appreciation. Gustavo Freing is
Speaker 1: a middle linebacker, the traffic cop of the defense. He
Speaker 1: coordinates every single move because he built the largest distribution
Speaker 1: system that the drug trade had ever seen in Breaking Bad.
Speaker 1: And better call Saul. He can do the same here
Speaker 1: on the defense and get things lined up. And then
Speaker 1: you also asked about Mike. Mike is I'm gonna make him.
Speaker 1: I want to say middle linebacker. Let's call Sam linebacker.
Speaker 1: I'm just he's got a neck roll, he's got a
Speaker 1: busteed up, knows he's essentially Jon Favreau in the replacements.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what he's gonna do, but he's gonna
Speaker 1: be tough. He's gonna a lot of tackles from me
Speaker 1: on defense. Fun exercise, CAB, I appreciate that. One more
Speaker 1: here from at Sewan Underscore three oh five. Has two
Speaker 1: ever had an offensive coordinate for two years in a row?
Speaker 1: If so, what was improvement like in that second year? Well,
Speaker 1: he played in technically the same offense at Alabama. In fact,
Speaker 1: you know, I had coach Saban on the podcast a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago and he talked about keeping that
Speaker 1: core offense at Alabama together regardless of the play caller
Speaker 1: changing every year. So it was the same system, different
Speaker 1: play caller. But yes, this is his first year with
Speaker 1: the same play caller and back to back years since
Speaker 1: high school. And you look at his college progression pass
Speaker 1: A rating by year one seventy five, one nine, two
Speaker 1: oh seven. His yards per ten went from eight point
Speaker 1: three to eleven point two to eleven point three, his
Speaker 1: completion personnagement from sixty three point six to sixty nine
Speaker 1: to seventy one point four. And we've seen similar progression
Speaker 1: in the NFL as well, not that it pertains to
Speaker 1: the idea of continuity with the play caller offensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: but I think it does work both ways. So there
Speaker 1: you go. Good questions, good combine talk. We'll talk more
Speaker 1: combine on the podcast tomorrow and I think Monday as well.
Speaker 1: We'll see about that. But good stuff here for y'all.
Speaker 1: I hope you guys enjoyed this longer edition of the
Speaker 1: Draft Time podcast. Back with you guys on Friday and
Speaker 1: then again next week is Combine week. We'll also have
Speaker 1: alec Ingold on the podcast. I'm not sure when that
Speaker 1: drop's been looking forward to getting that to you guys
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