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Speaker 1: of his younger brother was had him in the wrong

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Speaker 1: headspace here last year and totally understand that. But he's

425
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Speaker 1: here with a fresh mindset. Feels like he's in a

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Speaker 1: better headspace, so maybe that plays a role. See aj

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Speaker 1: Epenessa have been a lot of people high on how

428
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Speaker 1: he has looked through the course of the off season.

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Speaker 1: We're only two days in pads, so we really don't

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Speaker 1: know yet definitively, at least in terms of real football

431
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Speaker 1: or is it d the interior defensive line with the

432
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Speaker 1: return of Star in the early polling as everybody excited

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Speaker 1: about the rookies, Rousseau and bash him, Rousseau's gotten a

434
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Speaker 1: ton of time on the field, Steve. I don't think

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Speaker 1: there's any question about that. They are trying to bring

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Speaker 1: him along as quickly as possible, and I get it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he only had one year starting in college

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Speaker 1: and then he opted out last year, so guy, he

439
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Speaker 1: hasn't played padded football in eighteen months, so I get

440
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Speaker 1: why they've got him going every single day trying to

441
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Speaker 1: get him up to speed can and I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of it is a hard thing for a guy

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Speaker 1: like Rousseau, and every guy brings to the table. We've

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Speaker 1: talked about a lot. Every guy's got a skill set

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Speaker 1: they bring to the table. Russeau's skill set is in

446
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Speaker 1: large measure predicated by his length, how tall and long

447
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Speaker 1: he is. He can reach to the tackle before the

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Speaker 1: tackle is out of his stance almost, that's what That's

449
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Speaker 1: what Addison said. He can get to the end of

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Speaker 1: the tackle and hit him before the tackle's ready because

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Speaker 1: his arms are so because he reaches so far and

452
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Speaker 1: he can, you know, get to the edge. So his

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Speaker 1: skill set and his techniques that he'll use to rush

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Speaker 1: the passer are going to be vastly different than a

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Speaker 1: guy like maybe Bash him, or certainly a guy like

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Speaker 1: Ed Oliver or maybe even Jerry, particularly Jerry Hughes, who's

457
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Speaker 1: not a guy who's really long. So he's got to

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Speaker 1: learn techniques that there's not that many guys out there

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Speaker 1: who can execute. Yeah, he's got to use the techniques

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Speaker 1: that fit him. And if I'm him, I'm using my

461
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Speaker 1: length every dang snap I have because if you can

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Speaker 1: get into that lineman's chest before he even puts his

463
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Speaker 1: second foot down in his drop, he's not going to

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Speaker 1: be balanced. The first balance real fast. Yeah, the first

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Speaker 1: guy you call, if you're a guy like Greg Rousseau,

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Speaker 1: maybe he'll do this his next offseason. If the guy

467
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Speaker 1: would really willing to talk to you call a guy

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Speaker 1: like Jason Taylor. Yeah, play long player in the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame. I would call Jason Taylor before I'd call

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Speaker 1: Bruce because Bruces his body type matches up better exactly.

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Speaker 1: Bruce could tell him some techniques, no question. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know that anybody could do the techniques like Bruce Deda.

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Speaker 1: That was part of the problem, right, So, but Jason

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Speaker 1: Taylor was a long length guy, exactly like Rousseau, who

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Speaker 1: you know, was really productive and got in the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame with it. So it's that kind of thought

477
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Speaker 1: process that you got to get your mind around if

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Speaker 1: you're a guy like Greg Russeau. And you know bat

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Speaker 1: Addison hint. You know innimated to the media, you know

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Speaker 1: during his media time this week that you know he's

481
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Speaker 1: working with about how you and you could tell he's talking,

482
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Speaker 1: he's going through motions about how he what you gotta

483
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Speaker 1: do and what you you where replace your hands and

484
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Speaker 1: it's pretty specific stuff. When you rush in the passer,

485
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Speaker 1: when you get to the highest levels and Yeah, they're

486
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Speaker 1: giving Rousseau a lot of reps to try different things

487
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Speaker 1: and find his find his wheelhouse. Be interesting to see,

488
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Speaker 1: you know, once we get through the preseason, because I

489
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Speaker 1: think we'll get a better gage of it then. And like,

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Speaker 1: what happens when you know, a tackle jump sets him.

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Speaker 1: You know he's used to reach in and making contact

492
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Speaker 1: with them first. What happens if the tackle jump sets

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Speaker 1: him and he can't get his he can't shoot his

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Speaker 1: hands fast enough, Like, how does it react to that?

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Speaker 1: What's his counter? That is very often what is not

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Speaker 1: in the full arsenal of a rookie pass rusher, the

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Speaker 1: counter moves when maybe something gets thrown at you that

498
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Speaker 1: you aren't anticipating, and you're still effective in getting pressure

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Speaker 1: on the quarterback. So I'll be interested to see how

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Speaker 1: he performs when maybe the initial move isn't even there

501
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Speaker 1: to be made and he's got to react, reset and

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Speaker 1: still get there in time. But I'm not surprised they're

503
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Speaker 1: leading the voting right now. Everybody is excited about those

504
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Speaker 1: two players, and understandably so. But I think aj is

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Speaker 1: a guy that is an intriguing option as well, especially

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Speaker 1: in the absence of Jerry Hughes here through the first

507
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Speaker 1: week plus of training camp due to the calf strain

508
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Speaker 1: on the non football injury list. It's afforded guys like

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Speaker 1: Rousseau and aj F Andessa extra snaps because he's not

510
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Speaker 1: in there taking him and Jerry doesn't take many off

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Speaker 1: in practice. I mean, I mean, he might have a

512
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Speaker 1: veteran rest day here and there, but that guy doesn't

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Speaker 1: give snaps to anybody. Well that's yeah, that and yeah exactly, so,

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Speaker 1: Um it'll be interesting. Um, it's fun to get more reps,

515
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Speaker 1: no question. Plus it's when the more reps you get,

516
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Speaker 1: the more different guys you're going against. I mean, and

517
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Speaker 1: plus the fact that the offensive lines being shuffled almost

518
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Speaker 1: is not quite as much as the defensive line were.

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Speaker 1: You were sitting there making notes today, it looked like

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Speaker 1: a bingo board. The amount of numbers and where they

521
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Speaker 1: were switching them up and all the different combinations. It's

522
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Speaker 1: you really do need a spreadsheet. And I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how the coaching staff keeps track of it.

524
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Speaker 1: They do, but you gotta. It's almost like all right,

525
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Speaker 1: it's almost like a grid, and you do it systematically

526
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Speaker 1: or you've he's got to go. You got guys that

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Speaker 1: can play different spots. You got a trime in different

528
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Speaker 1: spots with different combinations of different players who are trying

529
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Speaker 1: to find out where they fit in in different spots.

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Speaker 1: And there's you know, they play a four three, so

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Speaker 1: there's four spots. There's like, what sixteen how many defensive

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Speaker 1: linement are there? There's sixteen defensive linemen at least at

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Speaker 1: this point, and you got four deep at each spot,

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Speaker 1: plus they're all switching around playing different spots. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: you gonna be okay. Yeah, I don't even more. It

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Speaker 1: can't even It's just overwhelming. Yeah, it's a Jake Saw

537
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Speaker 1: puzzle for sure. And Steve and I were talking about

538
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Speaker 1: this even before we came on the air. You could

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Speaker 1: make an argument that the decisions to be made at

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Speaker 1: the defensive line when it comes to fifty three man

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Speaker 1: roster time will be even more challenging than the decisions

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Speaker 1: to be made at the wide receiver position, which I

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Speaker 1: think everybody believes is one of the deepest positions on

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Speaker 1: the roster, and it is. But you look at the

545
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Speaker 1: decisions that are gonna have to be made on these

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Speaker 1: defensive line contingent man alive. That is gonna be a

547
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Speaker 1: tough Rhoda just real quick. I'll give you this you've got.

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Speaker 1: Let's say Grusso makes it, Jerry Hughes will make it

549
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Speaker 1: a Javanessa. Okay, let's say Ed Oliver is gonna be there.

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Speaker 1: Let's for the sake, or let's say f Aobota because

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Speaker 1: he's been talked about as being a guy boogie Basham Mario, Addison,

552
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Speaker 1: Starlow too, Lele. I mean you got now eight all right,

553
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Speaker 1: so you don't have Harrison Phillips, Vernon Butler, Darryl Johnson,

554
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Speaker 1: Brandon Bryant, Justin Zimmer, Mike Love, Elion Ku. I mean

555
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Speaker 1: you know Trevon Hester, you know Harrison Phillips, Vernon Butler,

556
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Speaker 1: Darryl Johnson on the roster last year and part of

557
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Speaker 1: the two deep. Those guys don't even make the top eight.

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Speaker 1: If you're, if you're and all those guys I said

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Speaker 1: to begin with on yep, break time for us here, Steve,

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Speaker 1: and I'll dive into it a whole lot more when

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Speaker 1: we return, including your thoughts on the tweet sheet. We're

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Speaker 1: also going to be hearing from Special Teams coordinator Heath Farwell,

563
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Speaker 1: who said had some interesting comments on the return man

564
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Speaker 1: competition as well as kicker Tyler Bass. We'll hear those

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Speaker 1: when we return here on One Bill's Live presented by

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Speaker 1: Kalid to Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back a

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Speaker 1: Thursday edition if One Bills Live. We'll have our colleague

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Speaker 1: Maddie clab On coming up in the third hour as

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Speaker 1: we talk the first week plus of training camp with her,

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Speaker 1: including some surprise standouts, maybe some under the radar people

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Speaker 1: who have flashed. We'll get into that with her in

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Speaker 1: the third hour of the show. We will also be

573
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Speaker 1: hearing Matt Hawk, the new punter for the Bills, as

574
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Speaker 1: there's a little bit of a special teams feel here

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Speaker 1: and Special Teams coordinator Heath Farwell as promised who will

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Speaker 1: come your way now. Basically, Coach Farwell was asked about

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Speaker 1: a number of players on his units. He does talk

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Speaker 1: about the return competition and where it stands right now,

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Speaker 1: and he also is talking about some players who find

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Speaker 1: themselves in position battles at their respective positions on offense

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Speaker 1: or defense, but who do play prominent roles on his

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Speaker 1: Special Teams unit. One of those players is Darryl Johnson,

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Speaker 1: who is obviously in the thick of a very deep

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Speaker 1: and talented defensive end race on the defensive line. Here

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Speaker 1: is Heath Farwell extolling the virtues of Darryl Johnson on

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Speaker 1: special teams. He's always been great for me, you know,

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Speaker 1: to get you know, four phases out of a defensive end.

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Speaker 1: You know, those are hard to find. You know, there's

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Speaker 1: pregame when I talk to the other coordinators. He's the

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Speaker 1: first guy that they bring up. You know, he's a

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Speaker 1: guy that he's a guy they have to it's a

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Speaker 1: mismatch having a guy that big and that fast running

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Speaker 1: down the field. He's just a huge factor. They have

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Speaker 1: to account for m and and and then it's get

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Speaker 1: what I tell these young players. Look what he's done.

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Speaker 1: He's able to find a niche on special teams and

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Speaker 1: buy himself time to play defense, to learn the skill.

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Speaker 1: He came from a small school in college, so here

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Speaker 1: he is now, he's he's having a good training camp,

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Speaker 1: you know, a defensive end. So that's what special teams

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Speaker 1: for is is buy you time. You know the obviously

602
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Speaker 1: these guys want to be starters at other phases, but

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Speaker 1: really you could really play a lot of ball and

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Speaker 1: play some good ball, and there's a lot of correlation

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Speaker 1: between you know, a defensive player offensive player. How you know,

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Speaker 1: we try to use the same terminology on special teams,

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Speaker 1: same technique, same communication. All the terms are very similar.

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Speaker 1: We try to make them where they're in or you know,

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Speaker 1: they they fit together. So, um, I think that's where

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Speaker 1: Darryl is really excelled. That's a pretty ringing endorsement for

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Speaker 1: a guy who's you know, fighting tooth and nail to

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Speaker 1: be one of the four or five defensive ends on

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Speaker 1: the roster. You play all four main special teams units,

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Speaker 1: and he's farwell revealing that other coordinators in the league

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Speaker 1: are like, dude, that guy's a major headache. He is

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Speaker 1: a mismatch problem. This is a matchup game, Steve. Even

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Speaker 1: on special teams, he is a clear mismatch on special teams.

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Speaker 1: That's that's huge added value for a player. He's a

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Speaker 1: big dude that can really run and he finishes tackles.

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Speaker 1: He's a good tackler's and he's he's in the right

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Speaker 1: spot all the time. He just plays really well on

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Speaker 1: special teams. And he's a big guy. They're hard to find.

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Speaker 1: Usually get medium size, you know, linebackers and tight ends.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that big who can run and stuff, but the

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Speaker 1: physicality isn't there or whatever. Or you get guys you

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Speaker 1: know like me who are smaller guys who can really

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Speaker 1: run or just you know, uh can cover a lot

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Speaker 1: of ground. But a big guy can run through a

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Speaker 1: single block even if the guy squares up on you know,

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Speaker 1: he dips his shoulder and you snowplows the guy and

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Speaker 1: he keeps running. Mark Pike was probably the best big

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Speaker 1: man special teams of all time, and he was an

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Speaker 1: absolute nightmare to get stopped when he gets running down

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Speaker 1: the fields. He was a two guy that could run.

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Speaker 1: He could really run, and you're not blocking him with

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Speaker 1: one guy. He's you can't wedge up anymore. That's right,

637
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 1: that's right. You if you can double team him, but

638
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: you gotta have two pretty good guys to double team him. Um,

639
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 1: because there ways around that. If if you're gonna face

640
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: up on a double team and just real quick, he'll

641
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: just pick the smallest, weakest one and steamroll that guy

642
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: and the other guys ends up, you know, getting caught

643
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: on the opposite side. Yeah, he's he's trying to catch

644
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: up to him again. Um, you know, the smaller guys

645
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: becomes a bug on a windshield, and you know, it's hard,

646
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 1: and I remember it's well, I'm glad you explained that,

647
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: because you know, you hear, oh, he's a mismatch, he's

648
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 1: a headache you. I was gonna ask you explain why

649
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: he's a mismatch, and you kind of just did that.

650
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 1: It's a numbers game. You got guys running down the field,

651
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: and if you've got to get two guys to block

652
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: one guy, the numbers start to get out of balance.

653
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: And you know, and if you've got one guy that's

654
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: really fast, you gotta get somebody on him and maybe

655
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: a deeper guy or whatever. You put two guys. Did

656
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: you put those guys next to each other? You got

657
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,479
Speaker 1: a double team this guy and this guy. You gotta

658
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: have somebody who can catch, you know, or if you

659
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 1: if you're gonna get him with a bad guy that

660
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you gotta start. You gotta swath

661
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: getting cut through your coverage or your return team that

662
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: you got to you gotta shore up somehow. Well as

663
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: the return team, you're already losing one guy because it's

664
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,760
Speaker 1: the guy returning the football, right, So it's already eleven

665
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 1: on ten. Now you have another guy that you gotta double,

666
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, yeah, it's coming down

667
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: on kick coverage. You gotta double that guy. Now. It's

668
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: particularly a big guy who can really run fast. It's

669
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: ten on eight, yeah, and it and it goes down

670
00:37:56,040 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: from there. So it's um, it's a problem, particularly on

671
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: kickoff and punt coverage when you've got a guy running

672
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: down who's big a load. You know. Bam Johnson has

673
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 1: been doing it. That is why he's on the team.

674
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 1: And for young guys out there, they're looking around, they're gonna, man,

675
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: I gotta make this team. I hope I make this team.

676
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: Bam Johnson's figured it out. They need guys like me,

677
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: and whether I can play defensive end with the best

678
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: of them or not, they do need me to cover kicks.

679
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: It's a great way to hang in there and make

680
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 1: a nice career for yourself. The position that is most

681
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: firmly under the microscope on special teams is probably that

682
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: of kick and punt returner, and it is a job

683
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: that is being contested by three players who are in

684
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: the mix, namely Isaiah McKenzie, Marquez Stevenson and Brandon Powell.

685
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: Those guys are in the mix there, and at this

686
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: point in time, Heath Farewell gave his assessment as to

687
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: who is out in front in that competition. Yea, it

688
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: really depends on how the roster plays out. You love

689
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: to have one guy do both of them. Um, But

690
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: you know that's that's definitely, you know a possibility. We

691
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: until we get closer and see what they do in

692
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: the preseason and see how this roster is gonna play out.

693
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: You know, that's that's a that's a you know, three

694
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: receivers competing for you know, kick returning, a punt return job. Uh,

695
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know how the roster gonna play out.

696
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: We're still you know, getting through that, you know, with

697
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: the you know, coach coach McDermott, Brandon Beaner going through

698
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: all that, and I'll give him my feedback. But we're

699
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: open to having one for each. So that was he

700
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: far Well actually addressing whether they would use one returner

701
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 1: or two, one for punt, one for kick. Um. But

702
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: as as it pertains to the competition directly, Steve, here's

703
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: who he thinks is out in front with the three

704
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: guys in the mix there. Isaiah he's in the number

705
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: one spot right now. He had a you know, great

706
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: return last season. We've seen him in the past doing it.

707
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: Um and he and he's there's there's nothing that shows

708
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: anything different now. He's a guy that I have to

709
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,720
Speaker 1: drag off the field every day after practice with jugs.

710
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: He works his butt off. Um, he cares um. You know,

711
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: his mindset is there. Um. He's in the driver's seat.

712
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 1: Isaiah's you know, did a great job for us last year.

713
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 1: He has the talent, he has the elite speed, the quickness. UM.

714
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: I think it was more of a mindset for him.

715
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 1: He's got to believe it. That's why so I said,

716
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 1: I believe in you doing it? Do you believe in yourself?

717
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: And and and and as soon as he uh, you

718
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: know felt the you know felt that he that that

719
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: he felt that the coaches and we believed him. Coach

720
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: McDermott on down you've seen his um. You know, his

721
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: uh um. He's just been in taking full control of it.

722
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: And you could just see um, the positive energy and

723
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: the positive vibe of of you know, he feels confident

724
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: in himself and that that's really what it comes down to.

725
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: He's got to feel very very comfortable back there feeling

726
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: it clean because when the balls in his hand, just

727
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: like on offense, he's as talented as there is. When

728
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: you are a player like Isaiah McKenzie, who is unquestionably

729
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 1: gifted in the speed and quickness department, but is not

730
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: maybe in any other and he's coming back every year

731
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: on one year contracts, it's hard to know whether or

732
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 1: not you have the full confidence of the coaching staff

733
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: that you can do your job on a weekly basis.

734
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: It looks maybe just explain for our listeners the difference

735
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: it makes when your coach or your coordinator says to you, Hey, man,

736
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: I believe in you can do this. Let's go What

737
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: I mean it looks like it made a difference for

738
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: Isaiah McKenzie. Takes away your fear of failure if you

739
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 1: have a bad play. It takes away that like, oh

740
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: they're now that they're not gonna let me back out there.

741
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:52,439
Speaker 1: It takes away that fear that of failing. You're gonna

742
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: be you know you can go out there and go

743
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: for it. You know you don't have to hold back

744
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: or do anything different than then you would normally. And

745
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: you know, when you think about I got you when

746
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: you're worried about what the coaches are thinking about you.

747
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: Every mistake is magnified and you're worried about making them.

748
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: When you when you take ownership of it, when you

749
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: know this is my job, I'm gonna take and I'm

750
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: gonna own it, it's a different mentality. When you're back

751
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: there ready to catch you king, You're almost like you're

752
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: watched me, you know, show off. That's the kind of

753
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: the mindset you want to be. You want to be,

754
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: you know, out there just absolutely, you know, exploiting your

755
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: skill set and just have total confidence in it. When

756
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: you don't know if anybody believes in you, that's when

757
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: you start to have doubts. And when you're back there

758
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: standing by yourself, what that ball dropping out of the

759
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: sky and all that stuff's going on around you, the

760
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: last thing you need is doubt. I mean it's hard, man.

761
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: I've said this too and real quick before we go

762
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: of Isaiah Mackenzie is the kick returner and pump returner.

763
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: I would look for me, and I don't know if

764
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: it's this way for Isaiah or not. It was really

765
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: difficult to be ready to play offense and defense or

766
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: offense and play regular down to distance as a wide receiver,

767
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: because if you want a guy to do it and

768
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 1: do it well, it's better to have him totally dedicated

769
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: to kick off and punt return because there'll be conversations

770
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: and said, hey, hey, Heath talking to Heath farwell, what

771
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: return are you thinking about on punt? And he say, well,

772
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: if it's on the other hash, will go left. If

773
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: it's on the right, hash, we're gonna go right. That

774
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: kind of thing. And he say, and if he does that,

775
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: then you go to the guys that are gonna be

776
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: in front of you say, hey, if it's on the

777
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: left hash, we're gonna go right, and we're gonna think

778
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: about this. Remember that guy does this. You know, you

779
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: have these conversations, you're thinking about the kick and you're

780
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: envisioning it as it comes down. If you're on regular

781
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: down and distance, you know, third down goes it's an

782
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: incomplete pass. He goes, what, oh, yeah, I gotta go

783
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: out and return this guy. And that's the first time

784
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: you think about it, and all that thought beforehand, and

785
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: the conversations you have before and don't get don't happen,

786
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 1: and those help, Yeah, those help in your mindset. And

787
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: you and you're readiness to go back there and execute.

788
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: So with that in mind, we will delve into this

789
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: when we come back in the next segment. Could there

790
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: be given weeks where Brian Dable needs Isaiah McKenzie for

791
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: a mismatch on the offensive side of the ball and

792
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: they need to turn to someone else to return kicks

793
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: and punts so as not to put too much on

794
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: Mackenzie's plate. And who might that be to fill the void?

795
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: We'll discuss that next when we return here on One

796
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Kellid to Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

797
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: Here we go One Bills Live on a Thursday training camp.

798
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: But rolling on and we are discussing the return man competition.

799
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: As we just heard from special teams coordinator Heath Farwell,

800
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: Isaiah McKenzie is in the driver's seat for that role.

801
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: I guess something spectacular in the preseason might be the

802
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: only thing that changes that conversation. But Steve and I

803
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: in discussing this and referencing mackenzie's role on offense the

804
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: last couple of years, Steve kind of pointed out might

805
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: be challenging for McKenzie to handle his normal package of

806
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: plays on offense while also serving as kick and punt returner.

807
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 1: So what happens in a given week, Knowing how Brian

808
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: Dable likes to play the matchup game, that's kind of

809
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: the roots, the nuts and bolts of his game. Plans

810
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 1: every week to find the mismatches exploit them. What happens

811
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: if he comes to Sean McDermott one week and says, hey,

812
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: I'm really gonna need McKenzie for about fifteen plays on

813
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: offense this week. I know he's doing returns, but what

814
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: do you want to do there? They may have to

815
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: come up with an alternative. So what happens then? Do

816
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: you turn to a running back with special team's ability

817
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: like Taiwan Jones to be returned man, or do you

818
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: have somebody sitting on the practice squad and you use

819
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: one of their two call ups with the expanded practice

820
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: squad rules and say, all right, let's give the rookie

821
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: a shot. Here's Mark Quez. Yeah it could be also

822
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: they just used Mica hide to catch them cold. That's

823
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: just punts though, right kickoff and a kickoff is a

824
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: little easier to do than punt, no question about, because

825
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: you have time to catch the ball and you're not.

826
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: You don't have guys breathing down your neck when the

827
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: ball's dropping out of the sky. But punts are the

828
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: thing that is the catastrophic giveaway. Kickoffs are easier to

829
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: get on top of. Even in the worst case scenario,

830
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: you're going to end the play with the ball. Not

831
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 1: always the case in punt return, but yeah, you could.

832
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 1: You could make it on a weekend like that. I

833
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: think it might be they could do it both ways,

834
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: but I think it probably would be like if they

835
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: had to got into a thing and say, listen, if

836
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: Isaiah has a number of apps or does this and

837
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: this and this in the game, we'll have Micah returned

838
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: the punts on that on that series, and we'll put

839
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 1: Taiwan Jones back to kickoffs. Right, We'll do it with guys.

840
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: But if we go into the game, no one Isaiah

841
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: is going to get a number of snaps. Maybe we

842
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: will bring up if if Marquez Stevenson is doing some

843
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 1: good things and we're liking him and he wants it,

844
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: we want to give him a look, We'll bring him

845
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: up those kind of things. Or it could be him,

846
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:31,240
Speaker 1: or it could be anybody else. So they'll have different

847
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:32,919
Speaker 1: options to do it, but I think on the spur

848
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: of the moment it becomes one of the go tos

849
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: like Micah high just to catch the punts and then

850
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: on kickoff. Literally, there's probably double digit got ten guys

851
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: on the team who have done it from high school

852
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 1: at some point right return kickoffs. So all these guys

853
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 1: were at the top of the list in their high

854
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,760
Speaker 1: school teams at one point or another as an athlete,

855
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: and you know they've probably done it. Yeah, we are

856
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 1: MSG viewers watching Isaiah's eighty four yard punt returned from

857
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: last year against the Dolphins in the season finale. The

858
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: second to last guy he passes his teammate now Matt

859
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 1: high Man, the punter trying to cut him off. He

860
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: was quoted today and they asked him if he ever

861
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: said anything to Matt Hawk, Uh, you know, as he

862
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: returned to punt against him on Week seventeen last year,

863
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 1: and he says, I call him my son, Matt Hawk,

864
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: his son. Yeah, wow, you gotta you gotta have some

865
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 1: fun with it. Yeah. Did you see Brian Dable the

866
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: other day when he was asked about Isaiah, Yeah, that

867
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: was funny. That kid's a character man. He couldn't help

868
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: it laugh himself. He's always got something to say. He's

869
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: always got a wise crack, almost to the point where

870
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 1: he exhausts his teammates, like guy will not stop talking. Dude,

871
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: what you gotta do? I mean, they love him, but man,

872
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: there's sometimes and then they always play short jokes on

873
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 1: him in the locker room. I can get a little rough.

874
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 1: I can relate to that one. Yeah, yeah, that's we're

875
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 1: seeing the last hawkwar number two for the Dolphins last year,

876
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,439
Speaker 1: which is obviously Tyler Bass's number. So he's not wearing

877
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,280
Speaker 1: it this year. I think he's three this year. Yeah, three. Interesting,

878
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that could be a scenario that

879
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: could very well come up this season where Dabis say, hey,

880
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 1: look I need him, and you know they're gonna have

881
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: to make arrangements to make sure they're not compromising any

882
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 1: part of their special teams unit too severely. There's nothing

883
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: that says they feel the same way about it that

884
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,240
Speaker 1: I do. But it's my feeling. As a kick returner

885
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 1: and a punt returner and sometimes wide receiver, it was

886
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: either one or the other. You didn't do both return

887
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: the return duties or play wide out. Once you did that.

888
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: Return duties really really suffered, and you look at the

889
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: great ones. Dion Sanders a great kick returner, but didn't

890
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: do it every time, wasn't dedicated to it. When they

891
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: were in a game or whatever and they wanted a

892
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: chant and he was, they throw him out there. Um,

893
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: Devin Hester was such a good returner and and has

894
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: been called the Hall of Fame caliber kick returns for

895
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: touchdowns than him, he would have had, I'm telling you

896
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: right now, he would have had at least twice that

897
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: many if they would never have put him on wide

898
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: receiver special team. Once he got to be a wide receiver,

899
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: the touchdowns dried up on kick returns. What is your

900
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: reason for that? Why do you think it's you don't

901
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,720
Speaker 1: think about it. You know, you don't commit enough mental

902
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: attention and focus to that job. You're on down and distance.

903
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 1: You're you're thinking about the third and three and it's

904
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: incomplete or we got it, and you keep going. You

905
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: never give punt return a thought until it's like, hey,

906
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 1: it's third down, you better get out there. You know,

907
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: we get ready, you know, and he's like, okay, right, Um,

908
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: it just doesn't work. You're you're thinking about down to distance.

909
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: You're talking to the quarterback and all of a sudden,

910
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: the special teams coordinated coming over and hey, we need

911
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: you out here. You know, you're just not concentrating on it,

912
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: and it takes a lot of focus and concentration, and

913
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 1: like I said, those conversations on the sideline about how

914
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: that last return went and what you're thinking and what

915
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: they're doing. And you know, one of those guys will say, hey,

916
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: I got that guy. We're gonna you know, like back

917
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 1: in the day, you know, I got Benny, Benny Thompson's gonna,

918
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: we got him. Don't worry about him, you know that

919
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. You didn't worry about Elbert Shelley and

920
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: all these other great you know, special teams coverage guys,

921
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: and you just go after him. But when you start

922
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: playing down in distance as a return guy, you got

923
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: other things you're thinking about. Yeah, and I And that

924
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: doesn't mean Sean McDermott, you know, agrees with me. And

925
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean Isaiah McKenzie feels that way either. He

926
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: may like And it's always more fun to play. I

927
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 1: knew that too. It's it's fun to be on the field.

928
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: So the more you're out there, the more fun it is,

929
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: so I get it. Everybody wants more on their plate,

930
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: but it's hard to be good at all of that

931
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: stuff at the same time. Break time for us here,

932
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 1: But when we start the second hour, we will hear

933
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: from punter Matt Hawk and from one Isaiah McKenzie, both

934
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: of those guys coming your way here in the second

935
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: hour of the show, One Bill's Live, presented by Kalid

936
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 1: to Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio at a Steve Tasker

937
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: who has been all over her field. Kind of unique.

938
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 1: He was kind of a dual role players for Steve,

939
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: Steve a blimp. We're not even in the stratosphere of normalcy,

940
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: all right. There we go our number two on a

941
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:58,280
Speaker 1: Thursday to latch Stefan Diggs work his route running magic

942
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: Steff do the thing today practice where he yeah, he

943
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: got open, yeah and does that a lot. I was like,

944
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 1: oh my god, did you see that? And he ended

945
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 1: up into a big play. I was, you know, just yeah,

946
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: I don't know how you cover some of the stuff

947
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: he does. And I get it too, a little bit

948
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: of how it has to do with practice, and then

949
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: you know, there's some time there, maybe a little extra

950
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: time or whatever. But yeah, they do. Some the guys

951
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: now they run those routes and they come in and

952
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: out of their breaks with such with such technique and

953
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: ability and explosion. It's just I don't know how they

954
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:40,439
Speaker 1: cover them sometimes. Yeah, Um, I just uh, I look

955
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: at it and I say, you know, the offense is

956
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: just gonna kind of pick up where they left off.

957
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: It's hard not to feel that way with the way

958
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 1: they are able to execute now. The defense is making

959
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: some more plays of late. I know Germaine Emmons had

960
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 1: a nice play and checked my notes because I'm he

961
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: had good coverage underneath. And I want to say it

962
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: was on one of their top four guys. He was

963
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: in coverage on a Oh yeah it was Dick's had

964
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: a pass break up on a on a route where

965
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 1: basically he came into Edmonds area and Edmonds broke it up.

966
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: It was Edmonds had a Yeah, ed Edmonds had a

967
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: pick six is today early in practice on eleven on

968
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: eleven where he stepped out and Josh didn't see him.

969
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 1: He stepped out a note out from behind the rush

970
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 1: or wherever it was. He snagged it and got up

971
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 1: and took off running. Um, yeah, Josh for chasing him.

972
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think he's gonna get him. Yeah,

973
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: it was. It was good play, really good play, and

974
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: you could tell it was it kind of it kind

975
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: of put the juice back into practice there and the

976
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,919
Speaker 1: early going it it turned up the intensity a little

977
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: bit and everything got better after that. It was pretty

978
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: good play by by Tremaine and actually wasn't a bad

979
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 1: throw by josh Um, but he couldn't see Tremaine because

980
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 1: of the traffic and all that, and to me snagged

981
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: as a good catch. So all that stuff goes on

982
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: every day. It's pretty fun to watch. Oh yeah, no

983
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: question about it. And we are talking special teams here

984
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 1: in our number two because a lot of them were

985
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: made available to the media after practice today. One of

986
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: the newest Bills on the roster, punter Matt Hawk, who

987
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:27,280
Speaker 1: replaces the outgoing Corey Bjorkez, addressed the media after today's practice.

988
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 1: Here is the Bill's new punter. I think ultimate decision

989
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: just came down to Buffalo wanted me, and I wanted

990
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 1: to be somewhere where they wanted me. After talking with

991
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: Heath and Smiley and coach McDermott, I love what they

992
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 1: preach here, family, trust, all that kind of stuff, and

993
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: that resonates with me. I'm a big family guy, My

994
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 1: families all close back home and all that stuff, and

995
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: me and these guys, it's been great. Honestly, hasn't even

996
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: felt like a transition to me. They welcome to me

997
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: right away, which made it easier on me coming up here,

998
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,919
Speaker 1: and for me as a punner man, I'm just trying

999
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,240
Speaker 1: to get better every day, improving on all the little things,

1000
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: adjusting to little scheme differences here. But for me, it's

1001
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: all about coming out and getting better every day and

1002
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 1: hitting consistent balls, having the guys around me trust me,

1003
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: and me trusting them that they're gonna make plays, and

1004
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,280
Speaker 1: kind of feeding off each other. You've hunted in this stadium,

1005
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: you know the challenges, you know kind of how do

1006
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: you navigate through that and make sure that you you know,

1007
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: you know exactly how this wind works and everything I'll

1008
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: have to It's a huge advantage just obviously being here

1009
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 1: and having this b our home field and Heath and

1010
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: Smiley do a great job every week with weather reports

1011
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and being able to practice in

1012
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: it is a huge advantage rather than being surprised when

1013
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:46,959
Speaker 1: you get here, you expect it, you know what's coming.

1014
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 1: So just working through it every day and finding little

1015
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: tips and tricks to help with maybe the drop or

1016
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: direction and kind of little things like that that that

1017
00:56:56,719 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: go along with build the line of question that John

1018
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: asked Tyler earlier. Come to in that place and just

1019
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: like Tyler, there really isn't competition, right. What's that like

1020
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: for you to come to a new place just to

1021
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: be able to really dial in on getting tempation redame

1022
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: the title? Yeah, I mean ever since I got into

1023
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: the league. Um, I had competition my first year. I

1024
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: had competition my third year. But for me, UM, I

1025
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: treat it like there's competition every day. I mean, I

1026
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: may be the only punter here, but there's thirty two

1027
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: other punters on the other teams, and however many punters

1028
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: they brought into camp. So UM, I mean in Miami

1029
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 1: there were there are situations where the kicker had made

1030
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: the team, but they ended up bringing somebody else in

1031
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: that was on another team in the competition. So in

1032
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: my eyes, I'm competing every day, um, whether it's against

1033
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: myself or because I know there's there's a million other

1034
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 1: guys out there that want to be in a position

1035
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: I'm in right now, So you can't take any day

1036
00:57:50,160 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: for granted. Built the shame. Uh, it's exciting. Um, but

1037
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out there when my numbers call it

1038
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: and do what I can to help this team win. Um.

1039
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: Any situation I'm called out there to be in. But um,

1040
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: I think that's just a credit to this team. The

1041
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: offense defense especially is working together and winning ball games. Ultimately,

1042
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: a lot of you to be so good and putting

1043
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: money without a lot of practice. Um, it's actually something

1044
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: I kind of learned on my own in college and

1045
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: then got tips and tricks from my kicking coach, Jamie

1046
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: Cole as I grew up and being around other guys

1047
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: in college and the NFL, learning from coordinators and stuff

1048
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: like that. Just different philosophies. But I think a lot

1049
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: of it again comes down to trust. Trusting the gunners

1050
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: that they're going to be down there and making a play,

1051
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: Trusting the cover guys, trusting protection. It's just being able

1052
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: to be out there and swing freely and um place

1053
00:58:52,040 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: where I want. It's it's huge. Uh Yeah, anything plus

1054
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: fifty is NASSI kick. Um. I think you can always

1055
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: get better at it. Um. You see guys now like

1056
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:10,479
Speaker 1: Johnny Hecker last year, Um he instead of hitting Yassi

1057
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: hit the banana punt, which UM in my eyes, when

1058
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 1: they're if you're not comfortable with it, there's more risk

1059
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: than reward. But if you're good at it, um, it's deadly.

1060
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 1: So I think there's always something you can get better at.

1061
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: There's always stuff you can add UM, and that's I

1062
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 1: think that's with punting as a whole. You can I

1063
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: messed around with it, but not comfortable really enough right

1064
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: now to throw it out in a game. But um,

1065
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 1: something like in the offseason if um, I want to

1066
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: work on a day of complete like I don't know,

1067
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 1: just not normal punts, maybe one step punts backed up

1068
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,919
Speaker 1: or um, just trying new things because like I said,

1069
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 1: there's a million other guys out there that someone probably

1070
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: can do that, and the more you can do the better.

1071
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: So there's Matt Hawk who's talking about coming in and

1072
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: even though there isn't another punter in camp, he's still

1073
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: competing against himself and competing as if anybody could be

1074
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: brought in on any given day, which we have seen happen.

1075
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: So probably a good approach to take to hold onto

1076
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 1: the job he currently holds as Bill's punter. And interesting too, Steve,

1077
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: much like Behorkez, he also is a lefty and I

1078
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 1: know that can cross up return men at times because

1079
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 1: the ball spins a different way on its way down right.

1080
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 1: Not as accustomed to seeing that. It's not a huge thing, though,

1081
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: is it. I don't think so. I don't think so.

1082
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 1: And why are left He's clearly coveted? More like there

1083
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 1: seems to be this prevailing thought that, oh, yeah, we

1084
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: you know, like Belichick for years almost only takes left

1085
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 1: footed punters. But what's the what's the deal there? I

1086
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: don't know. I didn't think too much about if some

1087
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 1: algorithm we're not aware of, like probably probably probably, Okay,

1088
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 1: I don't. Um, if you if you're if you're catching

1089
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 1: a ball out of a jugs machine, you can spin

1090
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 1: it the other way right, Um, that's one thing. It

1091
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 1: does move the opposite way of a spiraling punt from

1092
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 1: a right footed kicker. But what are we talking about?

1093
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 1: You know? Um, you're I mean, yeah, you're you're fought,

1094
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 1: you're tracking a ball in the air. Um, yeah, you're

1095
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 1: just and what happens left? Yeah? What happens? Yeah? What

1096
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 1: happens when a right footed punter hits it to your left,

1097
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 1: you go over there and catch it. Yeah, you got

1098
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: a track and catch it. And what if the left

1099
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 1: footed punter hits it to your right? I mean, so, wait,

1100
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 1: you know, so too much is being made that. I

1101
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 1: think so. I just don't understand why they said, oh yeah,

1102
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 1: let's not Maybe there's some statistic to say left footed

1103
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 1: punters forth more turnovers. Okay, then I'll listen, all right,

1104
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: but I have not been made aware of that. Well,

1105
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 1: we'll have to. We're gonna have to get to the

1106
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: bottom of that. I think we're gonna have to delve

1107
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 1: into that at some point in time. Also speaking and

1108
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: addressing the media today was the man who Heath Farwell

1109
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 1: said was in the driver's seat for the kick and

1110
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 1: punt returner job. That is one Isaiah Mackenzie. Here is Isaiah,

1111
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 1: who is very often a character in press conference situations. Yeah,

1112
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 1: you have a great chance. I mean, you were behind

1113
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 1: an all pro returner and now this is kind of

1114
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: your job to lose. I guess, so to speak, right,

1115
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 1: I mean, what does that opportunity mean to you and

1116
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: how you're approaching it means a lot to me, you

1117
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 1: know they it means the coaches staff, you know upstairs,

1118
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 1: they got a lot of faith in me, and I

1119
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 1: don't want to let him down. I learned I was

1120
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 1: behind JA for two years. I learned a lot from him.

1121
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm not trying to go back to

1122
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 1: the season last year. I got my opportunity and I

1123
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: made the best of it. So I just want to,

1124
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 1: you know, capitalize off that and just keep keep making

1125
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: plays back there when I can, when I get my chance,

1126
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 1: you know, show the team what I can do, show

1127
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: the coaches what I can do is just keep going

1128
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 1: from there. You say something that jumps out with you

1129
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 1: as as your speed, Just how much pride do you

1130
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 1: take in that aspect of your gid A lot of

1131
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 1: proud you know what I'm saying. It's not self real king,

1132
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 1: but I am the fast you know, gout on the team.

1133
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 1: A lot of you want to say I'm not, but

1134
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 1: I think I am. But um, I take a lot

1135
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 1: of part in that. I try to each and every

1136
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: day I try to get faster. I'm saying, I try

1137
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: to keep with my speed. I'm getting old now, you know,

1138
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 1: not dre old, but I'm getting old and saying twenty

1139
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 1: six now and so and I gotta keep up with

1140
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 1: my body. I keeping with my speed because you know,

1141
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 1: you gotta got named speedy. He came in, He's pretty fast. So, um,

1142
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 1: I just you know, keep up every day. I try

1143
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 1: to take part of it. You know, working out and

1144
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: getting faster. Took you minute to get some confidence. And

1145
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 1: now you have that confidence, you taken full advantage. How

1146
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 1: was that process for you to get to that? I

1147
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 1: was saying that it took you minute to get that

1148
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 1: mindset of it. Just had a lot of confidence in yourself.

1149
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 1: Now that you've gotten to that point and said you

1150
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 1: take a full control. How was that process for you

1151
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 1: to get to that point where you really believed that? Um?

1152
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 1: I was. I mean it took a couple of years

1153
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, coming coming here in two and eighteen

1154
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 1: and being coming with bees and well Beach came into

1155
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 1: the nineteen bas and John Brown. He taught me a

1156
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 1: lot about route running and things like that, just knowing

1157
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:07,959
Speaker 1: defense and stuff like that. And then when Drake came along,

1158
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: he taught me how to you know, be a good

1159
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 1: returning because he was a great returner, just showing me

1160
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 1: ways to you know, get better at my game. And

1161
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 1: I just to heave with whatever they said to me

1162
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 1: each and every day. And you know, I applied it

1163
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 1: to my game. And now you're going into year five,

1164
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm I'm pretty confident in my route running,

1165
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 1: you know, uh, my return ability, and I just want

1166
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 1: to get you know, you get better each and every day.

1167
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,439
Speaker 1: Now that I'm along Dred's not here, I just gotta

1168
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 1: take you know, full control. And because it's each and

1169
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 1: every day, some of those other lessons that you learned

1170
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: from him from Mondrey when he was here, because as

1171
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 1: you mentioned, you know, he was using all for really

1172
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 1: good at what he did. What what specifically did you

1173
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 1: take away situations um, certain situations to the game, you know,

1174
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 1: how to you know control, you know, feel feel position um,

1175
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 1: just knowing when the fair catch, when when to take

1176
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 1: a chance. You know, just don't be too greedy saying

1177
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 1: do your job. Make sure you make sure we have

1178
01:04:57,960 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 1: the ball at the end of the day. And we

1179
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 1: talked me about about that and you know it's it's small,

1180
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 1: but it's big because the ball is important. That tough

1181
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 1: less than to learn for a guy like yourself who

1182
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 1: believes in his ability to make a play almost at

1183
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 1: any point. So to know like when you can or

1184
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 1: maybe maybe when you can. Is that something that you

1185
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 1: really had to had to learn, really had to learn

1186
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 1: because you know, coming from college, I'm saying I was

1187
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 1: a good return in college and I kind of I

1188
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 1: made some risky place and then coming from Denver. You know,

1189
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 1: everybody know how that went. But uh, just learn from

1190
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 1: you know, I had the ability, you know what I'm saying,

1191
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 1: I just gotta you know, know you know when to

1192
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: do do certain things and when not to do certain things.

1193
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 1: Now I feel like now I'm up to you know,

1194
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 1: up to speed. I know, you know, I know every

1195
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 1: part of the game, every situation, and coaches are teaching

1196
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 1: me as well. So I'm still learning, but I feel

1197
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 1: more confident in myself than I did a couple of

1198
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 1: years ago. It's like you're or in the trust to

1199
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 1: brand Dave All obviously you know give you touches, you know,

1200
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 1: even in the NASC Championship game. Just kind of do

1201
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 1: you feel what is your relationship with him? Like how

1202
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 1: do you feel like he's a guy who put uses

1203
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 1: your best tools? Um say, he said, I love the

1204
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 1: guy I know, but he's putting me in the best situation.

1205
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I just I just had

1206
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 1: to take, you know, advantage of the opportunities he's given me.

1207
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 1: And I've done I've done it. I've done good so far.

1208
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 1: I feel like he believes in me. I believe in him.

1209
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 1: I feel like he's gonna put me in the best

1210
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 1: situation possible. You know, I'm saying, try to get the

1211
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 1: ball in my hands when he can. We have a

1212
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 1: lot of guys when a lot of guys that need

1213
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:28,439
Speaker 1: the ball, you know what I'm saying. And that's fine,

1214
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 1: and I understand that, and I understand my role on

1215
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 1: this team. But you know, I just got to take

1216
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 1: advantage of my opportunities, and he gave me great opportunities.

1217
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 1: He's best for years, man Breed. It is four three

1218
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 1: eighty too. I'm beating all of them. So whenever we

1219
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 1: get a chance, then this can't We're gonna race Alan's

1220
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 1: you knowing you said it. There's a lot of guys

1221
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 1: that that need to ball on this team. Do you

1222
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 1: ever wonder if there's there's a ceiling so the amount

1223
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 1: of touches you can get and it doesn't matter necessarily

1224
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 1: what you show. I mean, how do you approach things

1225
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 1: like that knowing, yeah, you got digs and and beas

1226
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 1: League and guys like that. Um, I just come in and,

1227
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 1: like I said, whatever opportunities I get, I gotta take

1228
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 1: advantage of them. And I understand that, you know, saying

1229
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 1: we got a lot of Like I said, we got

1230
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 1: a lot of great guys, and that's all I can

1231
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 1: do is take advantage of what I what I get.

1232
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 1: So you know, uh, like last year and I said,

1233
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 1: I took full advantage when Beach was out the game.

1234
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 1: I had to take full advantage because when you got

1235
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 1: back in, I know there's a slim chance I was

1236
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 1: getting back in there, know what I'm saying. But you know,

1237
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:25,439
Speaker 1: I love all those guys. Those guys do a great

1238
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 1: job on the field, so you know you can't I

1239
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 1: can't take anything from them, but I just know when

1240
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 1: I get it, when I get my chance, I got

1241
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 1: to take full advantage. Receiver evolved. Sometimes people throw like

1242
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 1: a gadget guy. Yeah that's you'll get that. I'll get

1243
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 1: attached to you. But how do you feel your game

1244
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 1: as a receiver has evolved? Maybe shed that later, um tremendously,

1245
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 1: you know, I'm running better routes. I'm you know, reencourage this.

1246
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 1: I'm getting open and I'm saying camp has been good,

1247
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 1: good to me so far. You know, I'm still learning

1248
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 1: from Bees and Digs and all those guys. But I

1249
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 1: feel like I got to hold till the receiver, the

1250
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 1: slop position and things like that. You know, the gadget

1251
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 1: guy comes with it, because I'm saying, I get like

1252
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 1: four snaps a game. But I'm cool with that, you know.

1253
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:05,439
Speaker 1: But you know, when I get my chance that receiver,

1254
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 1: I want to show them that I can do that

1255
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 1: as well. Do you think there's a misconception about your

1256
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 1: gadget guy, like because you're a big part of the

1257
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 1: offense last year and I know we get a lot,

1258
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 1: Oh mckith, McKenzie, he's the guy to get the gadget guy,

1259
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 1: but you clearly have a better, bigger role in that.

1260
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 1: Does that bother you? Doesn't bother me? You know, Uh

1261
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:23,640
Speaker 1: not really, I'm used to it. I'm saying, gadget guy,

1262
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 1: return guy, whatever. But um, those are things I can

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Speaker 1: overcome whenever I get my chance. I'm saying, whenever I

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01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 1: get my chance to go out to the receiver, I

1265
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 1: can show everybody that you know, I can play receiver.

1266
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 1: You I'm saying, I'm not just a gadget guy. So

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01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:37,719
Speaker 1: I said, I want to do more, you know, action

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01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 1: than talking and what I'm saying. I can't just say, oh,

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01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 1: I'm not a gadget guy and then go out there

1270
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 1: and be a gadget guy and not be a receiver.

1271
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:45,560
Speaker 1: So you know, I like to go out there and

1272
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 1: show him that I'm a receiver. You know what I'm saying.

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01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 1: When I do get my chance a receiver, like I said,

1274
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just take advantage of my opportunities like I've

1275
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 1: been doing. How big was that game against the Dolphins

1276
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 1: that regular season finale last year? For you? It was

1277
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 1: pretty big? You know what I'm saying. I was. I

1278
01:08:58,439 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 1: was with Digs in the locker room before the game

1279
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 1: and I told him, I said, if you don't play,

1280
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 1: it's my game. I'm not the more receiver today. And

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01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:06,600
Speaker 1: I didn't expect that from you know, I talked a

1282
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 1: lot of smack, so I didn't think I was gonna

1283
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 1: be there. I was gonna do that, but um, you know,

1284
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 1: everything fell in place for me, you know what I'm saying.

1285
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:15,640
Speaker 1: Going in that week I knew Bees wasn't playing, and

1286
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 1: Bees just you know, just coaching me up from behind

1287
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 1: and say hey do this, do that, this is what

1288
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 1: they played, you know and all that. So I just

1289
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 1: took whatever you know, he got from what I got

1290
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 1: from him and to to the field and thanks to

1291
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 1: Chad Hall. Chad Hall does an amazing job here. You know,

1292
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 1: he's one of my I love him, you know what

1293
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He taught me. You know, he taught me

1294
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 1: a lot of things. He's about a few years because

1295
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 1: he would be here before Bees and John Brown, so

1296
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 1: he taught me a lot. And going into that game,

1297
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 1: he said, just be patient and be you because you

1298
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:41,680
Speaker 1: got the ability. You just got to go out there

1299
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 1: that short So Week seventeen was a big, you know,

1300
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 1: step up for me. Is he not looking on the idea?

1301
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 1: I called him my son. I called him my son

1302
01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 1: for right now, you know what I'm saying, until until

1303
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 1: somebody else gives me the ball and I, you know,

1304
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 1: houses on them and then they're my son. But now

1305
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:05,680
Speaker 1: he's he's a great guy. You know what say. I

1306
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 1: got the chance to you know, cats punch from him

1307
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 1: in the offseason. He's a great guy. You know, you know,

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01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 1: he comes in, he does his job. I'm saying, very

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01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 1: nice guy. You know, I like him. Barbecue. Yeah. Did

1310
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 1: that stay open during the pandemic? Installed him? Barbecue? Yeah.

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01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 1: You mentioned when you resigned that you maybe had some

1312
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 1: other opportunities, UM and I don't know, you know, financially

1313
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 1: or otherwise, but you decided ultimately that you wanted to

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01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 1: be here. Can you maybe just kind of walk us

1315
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 1: through that again and elaborate on why that was the

1316
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 1: right decision from UM, I don't want to leave, like

1317
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to leave and go back to a

1318
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 1: program where it's still you know, developing, still growing and

1319
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:49,720
Speaker 1: when which was would have been fine. But I've been

1320
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 1: here through the bad times from twenty and eighteen till now.

1321
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 1: I've seen how you know, we've we've grown, as you know,

1322
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 1: as a buffalo bills, and I wanted to be I

1323
01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 1: wanted to be a part of something bigger, you know,

1324
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:01,679
Speaker 1: bigger than you know, bigger than that. And I feel

1325
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 1: like here we're a family. You know, I'm saying, they're

1326
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 1: used to me. I'm used to them, and said, we're

1327
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 1: still growing. You know what we did last year. What

1328
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying was was a big step, you know, and

1329
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 1: this year we want to take an even bigger step.

1330
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 1: But um, I just want to I want to be here.

1331
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying I didn't want to. I told my agent,

1332
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to be nowhere else, you know. But

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01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, if the money was a little different

1334
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 1: than obviously, I wouldn't had to do what I had

1335
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 1: to do. But I really didn't want to go anywhere else.

1336
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,679
Speaker 1: You know, it has been super easy road, you know, waivers,

1337
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 1: one year contracts, kind of proving yourself over and over

1338
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 1: and over again. You know, have you kind of just

1339
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 1: become accustomed to that, knowing that every year it's kind

1340
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 1: of a you know, like a fun of course there

1341
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 1: is for me, Yes, every year is a fight. And

1342
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 1: I was talking to the young guys yesterday, Aboudy Speedy

1343
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 1: and everybody. It's like, yeah, every year is going to

1344
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 1: be a fight. And I understand that. What I'm saying,

1345
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 1: one one year contract or not. You know, I'm saying,

1346
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 1: somebody's looking to take your spot. But each and every

1347
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 1: year I come back here, you know what I'm saying.

1348
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 1: I want to go out there and I want to play.

1349
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 1: I love this game, know what I'm saying, I don't

1350
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 1: I talk a lot of smack. I played football, but

1351
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I'm saying, I'm coming

1352
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 1: here to fight each and every day no matter what.

1353
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 1: You've always a personality. It seems like you're even more

1354
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:11,600
Speaker 1: free with it this training camp. Do you think so?

1355
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,600
Speaker 1: Is that accurate? And if so, why why are you

1356
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 1: Is this the most open and free and fun we've

1357
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 1: seen a Visa mckenniicals more fun, but you know that's

1358
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 1: off the field. But other than that, you know, uh,

1359
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 1: like I said, I've grown over the years. You know

1360
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I've and I feel like when I

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01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 1: first got here, I was like a kid. I'm saying,

1362
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 1: I feel like I've grown up here. I feel like

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01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 1: i've you know, I don't know, I just everything here

1364
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:39,680
Speaker 1: has developed me as a you know, a player, in

1365
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 1: a in a man. You know, coach mcderver does a

1366
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 1: great job. And you know, every every year I get

1367
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 1: better and every year as a man, I grow. You

1368
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I feel like just being here,

1369
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 1: I just you know, it's I feel confident now. I'm

1370
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 1: saying my personality is showing a lot more and that's

1371
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 1: how I want to be in coach term tolls all

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01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 1: the time. Be free. I'm saying, be yourself. When you

1373
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 1: stop on the field, you know it's time for business.

1374
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:06,959
Speaker 1: And I understand that. Um taking advantage of your opportunity.

1375
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:09,760
Speaker 1: Last year, Jay Kumro did that. I mean he had

1376
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 1: one target, one catch for a touchdown at Denver game.

1377
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 1: Where did he come from? Because obviously the Aaron Rodgers

1378
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 1: stuff has kind of you know, his name is popular

1379
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 1: around NFL circles. But he's come in here and he's

1380
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:23,799
Speaker 1: having quite a training camp. I mean, how much confidence

1381
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 1: do you guys having him and what do you make

1382
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 1: of who he is? As we love Jake um You know,

1383
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 1: I didn't know he was here last year at the

1384
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 1: beginning of the season. I had no idea. I was like,

1385
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 1: Jake was here because we was arguing about it last week.

1386
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 1: I'm like, Jake was here at the beginning of the season. Yeah,

1387
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't. I didn't know, but we

1388
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 1: show Yeah, he you know, he comes out here special teams.

1389
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 1: He's he's big, he can run if he can catch,

1390
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 1: run routes, and you know, I didn't know, you know

1391
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 1: what he can do, but he came out down special teams,

1392
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 1: running down as a R two L two, you know,

1393
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 1: making plays, and then he goes in dinner games and score,

1394
01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 1: you know, and then the Saints took him away. I

1395
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 1: was like, oh, we lost Jake and he came back.

1396
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, but we liked Jake here

1397
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 1: and like Jake like being here. I asked him the

1398
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 1: other day. I was like, Jake, why did you come back?

1399
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying when they say I lost

1400
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:10,600
Speaker 1: the playoff game he came back. He was like, I

1401
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 1: don't want to be nowhere else. But Jake's awesome. He's

1402
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 1: awesome guy, you know, saying big you know he big.

1403
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:17,720
Speaker 1: You run, I'm saying, great guy off the show. You

1404
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 1: know he's cool. All right. So that's Isaiah McKenzie currently

1405
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 1: calling Matt Hawk his son after returning up pun for

1406
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 1: a touchdown against him and the Dolphins. He insists that's

1407
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 1: only temporary, but still in all Um in the driver's seat,

1408
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 1: according to Heath Farwell for the punt and kick returner job,

1409
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 1: a job that Farwell said today he'd prefer to have

1410
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 1: one person man if possible. So it looks like it's

1411
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 1: trending in that direction. We'll see if some of the

1412
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 1: other competitors for that, if your role can do something

1413
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 1: big in the preseason. If you think back to last season,

1414
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 1: what would one of the young guys have to do,

1415
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 1: like you know, Marquess steven or one of the other

1416
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 1: guys Powell or whoever is in the mix for being

1417
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 1: a kick returner, what would they have to do to

1418
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 1: outweigh the performance that Isaiah McKenzie put on in Week

1419
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,720
Speaker 1: seventeen last year against the Miami Dolphins. He had three

1420
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 1: to first half touchdowns, two receiving touchdowns and a pump

1421
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:23,640
Speaker 1: return touchdown and carried the ball out of the backfield

1422
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 1: on the end of rounds and stuff like that. He

1423
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 1: was the centerpiece of the offense for that Week seventeen

1424
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 1: game against Miami in a game they scored fifty six

1425
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 1: points in. To me, it would take a really strong

1426
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 1: performance in three all three preseason games for any rookie

1427
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 1: to come out and say to have the Bills say,

1428
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:47,640
Speaker 1: you know what, We're gonna commit Isaiah McKenzie to the

1429
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 1: full time receiver spot and have Mark Quez Stevenson or whoever,

1430
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,639
Speaker 1: Brandon Powell or whoever be the return guy. They would

1431
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:00,680
Speaker 1: really have to show up in every single opportunity in

1432
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 1: the preseason, in every game to outshine what we saw

1433
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 1: Isaiah McKenzie do and have done has done for this

1434
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 1: organization over the last three or four years. We'll see

1435
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 1: if one of those young upstarts can change the trend

1436
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 1: that this seems to be heading in Right now. With

1437
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 1: mackenzie in the driver's seat for the punt and kick

1438
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 1: return job, we have to take a break here. We'll

1439
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 1: talk more about Isaiah when we return. We'll also get

1440
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 1: some of your comments on the tweet sheet as we

1441
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 1: are discussing today what we think will change the fortunes

1442
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:35,560
Speaker 1: of the Bills pass rush in twenty twenty one. You

1443
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 1: can jump on board at eight oh three five fifty one,

1444
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty or hit us

1445
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 1: up on the tweet sheet at one Bills Live. Choices

1446
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:45,680
Speaker 1: are there for you to vote on. Steve and I

1447
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 1: back in a flash here on one Bills Live, presented

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01:16:48,320 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 1: by Kalata Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio, and here we

1449
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:07,760
Speaker 1: are Steve Tasker, Chris Brown, One Bills Live Thursday edition,

1450
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,640
Speaker 1: and there is some NFL news. Matt Barkley, who is

1451
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 1: the former backup quarterback for the Bills, who we've talked

1452
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 1: about and brought up a couple of times in the

1453
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 1: last few weeks, most notably saying he'd be a great

1454
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 1: backup from the New York Jets, has signed with the

1455
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:24,679
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. He just announced it on his Twitter page

1456
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 1: or Twitter handle, and he's got a shot there, man,

1457
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 1: Logan Woodside. The competition is not stiff Logan Woodside and

1458
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:45,840
Speaker 1: Deshan Kaiser. He's gonna be the backup Rice. Yeah, I

1459
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 1: think so. He's better to me for what the ninety

1460
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 1: percent of what a backup quarterbacks job is in the NFL.

1461
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 1: He may be the best option out there for a

1462
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 1: lot of teams, even the ones that have a set roster.

1463
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 1: He did an outstanding job being the second guy behind

1464
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, not only for himself but officer for Josh Allen.

1465
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 1: He came in off the just forget he came in

1466
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 1: off the street two years ago for the Buffalo Bills

1467
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 1: and beat the Jets with about seven days of work.

1468
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:29,600
Speaker 1: Came in last year off the bench in Week seventeen

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Speaker 1: and beat the Miami Dolphins and their number one ranked defense. Certainly,

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Speaker 1: now his skill set is what it is. He's a

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01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 1: thrower of the football. He's not a runner, He's a thinker.

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01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 1: He's an accurate passer. He's in today's the NFL. He's

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01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 1: a game manager a little bit. Yeah, but with the

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01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 1: weapons around him in an offense around him. He showed

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01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 1: last year and Week seventeen what he can do. The

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01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:56,680
Speaker 1: guy runs an offense and can throw it. He can

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01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 1: throw the deep ball accurately. He can read defenses accurately

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01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:04,600
Speaker 1: and deliver it and make choices quickly and decisively, and

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01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:07,720
Speaker 1: like I said, the more important job he has for

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01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 1: a team likes, for instance, the Titans with Ryan Tannehill.

1481
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:15,559
Speaker 1: He's gonna help Tannehill's you know, he's not about himself,

1482
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 1: He's about Tannehill. Zach Wilson and the Jet are missing

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01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 1: out on a guy like that. And I'm not saying

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01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 1: against Woodside or Deshaun Kaiser, but this guy is exactly

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01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:30,000
Speaker 1: what you need in a backup quarterback. He's a guy

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01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 1: that supports the number one guy and is ready to

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01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 1: go when he's called on. I'm sure now that he's

1488
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 1: signed with the Titans, he was waiting on the opportunity

1489
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 1: he liked, so maybe the Jets did reach out to him.

1490
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 1: And he's said, no thanks. I'm willing to bet that

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01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 1: he beats out Logan Whiteside and Deshaun Kaiser for the

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01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 1: number two job, which would mean the Bills will see

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01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 1: him in Week six and the Bills traveled to face

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01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 1: the Titans in Nashville. Okay, we've got to get to

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01:19:57,560 --> 01:19:59,559
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet to get some of your thoughts here,

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01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 1: because we were asking you what will change the fortunes

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01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 1: of the Bills pass rush in twenty twenty one. You

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01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:09,839
Speaker 1: were given several choices. The rookie defensive ends, the Vets

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01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:14,639
Speaker 1: improved defensive tackle play, and there was one other choice

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01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:17,559
Speaker 1: in there that I can't even remember. Ajin sorry. AJ.

1501
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:20,960
Speaker 1: So Eli kicks us off on the tweet cheet, which

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01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 1: is brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official

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01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:25,559
Speaker 1: equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills, and he says,

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01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 1: I voted the rookies, but if Groot and Boogie are

1505
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:31,760
Speaker 1: constantly pressuring the quarterback and AJ keeps getting to the

1506
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 1: quarterback the same way he has been in training camp,

1507
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:36,080
Speaker 1: I think that will be the difference and what will

1508
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:38,680
Speaker 1: help us get to the promised land. So he's kind

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01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 1: of choosing A and C here. Yeah, I was thinking

1510
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:45,600
Speaker 1: maybe that with AJ, you'd also throw Ed Oliver in

1511
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 1: there as two guys that are, you know, one year

1512
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 1: and two years into their career. Aside from the rookies,

1513
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 1: with Boogie and Greg Rousseau, if you separate those, who's

1514
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 1: going to be the bigger difference makers? And to me,

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01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 1: it's a tough call because there you don't know how

1516
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:03,880
Speaker 1: Rousseau and Boogie Bashm are gonna come in. And you

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01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 1: got to think that AJ and a Ali were gonna

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01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:07,479
Speaker 1: take a little bit of a step forward this year.

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01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 1: We've we've all anticipated it. AJ's the guy that coaches

1520
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 1: appointed to is doing everything you could possibly do to

1521
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 1: get better. But you know, that is the defensive facet

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01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 1: of this team that we're that we've been worried about

1523
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 1: all offseason. Can they get more physical upfront and both

1524
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:31,280
Speaker 1: in the pass rush and in the run defense as well.

1525
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:34,640
Speaker 1: Certainly the run defense centers around guys like Starlou tou

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01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 1: Lal and Vernon Butler and those get the big bodies

1527
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:42,679
Speaker 1: down inside. But I think that is the place where

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01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 1: most people are saying this team needs to get better

1529
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 1: on the defensive side. It's one thing that there was

1530
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 1: different about them. They didn't win the line of scrimmage

1531
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:53,839
Speaker 1: as often as they did in two, nineteen, twenty and eighteen.

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01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 1: If they can get back to that once again, this

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01:21:57,880 --> 01:21:59,600
Speaker 1: will be a defense that's hard to move the ball on,

1534
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 1: which sounds good to me. I do think they'll take

1535
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 1: a step forward as a total defense than where they

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01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:10,559
Speaker 1: were last year, which was where they like middle tier defense.

1537
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 1: I think it was sixteenth in the league. They were

1538
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 1: right at the right at the fifty fifty more yeah,

1539
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 1: a little bit, and they improved their run defense ranking

1540
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:19,560
Speaker 1: late in the year. Their red zone defense was a

1541
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 1: trouble spot for them, particularly on the road, where they

1542
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 1: were giving up seventy percent conversion rate, and it was

1543
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:28,719
Speaker 1: partly rooted in not having an effective enough pass rush.

1544
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 1: So what will change the fortunes of the Bill's pass

1545
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:34,760
Speaker 1: rush in twenty twenty? And let's see who do we

1546
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 1: have next tier? I just lost my spot, Dad, gunn it?

1547
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 1: Where did I? Oh? Here it is? Tiffany says. The

1548
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 1: investment in this year's draft on the d line creates

1549
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 1: quite the competition, and I believe the established starters will

1550
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:50,559
Speaker 1: bring the best they have to keep the young players

1551
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:54,200
Speaker 1: from taking their starting spots. Hughes and Addison both have

1552
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 1: a lot left in the tank. See if I was

1553
01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 1: very taken by what Mario Addison had to say about

1554
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 1: his own person old journey. You know, through his first

1555
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 1: season here in Buffalo, the guy came in with a

1556
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:07,040
Speaker 1: lot of good credentials, a lot of consistent production, at

1557
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:09,280
Speaker 1: least nine sacks in each of the last four years.

1558
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:11,840
Speaker 1: I think it was coming in last year he only

1559
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 1: manages five. But I thought the team, yes, he led

1560
01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 1: the team, but I thought he was very He was

1561
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 1: an open book the other day in talking about, you know,

1562
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 1: the tragic passing of his younger brother, how that impacted him.

1563
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:29,000
Speaker 1: You know, you lose a close family member, it's I mean,

1564
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:32,600
Speaker 1: it's hard to focus on your work. Yeah, I mean, so,

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01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's the number one reason why maybe

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01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 1: he wasn't as productive as he had been in recent

1567
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 1: years in Carolina, but it definitely had a negative impact

1568
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:47,760
Speaker 1: on his performance level. I mean he even admitted it. Yeah,

1569
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:50,720
Speaker 1: And I think being here now, coming into the second year,

1570
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna feel much more comfortable with the environment. The

1571
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:58,320
Speaker 1: COVID protocols put a zap on everybody last year as well,

1572
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:00,439
Speaker 1: and some guys handled it better than others. I'm sure

1573
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 1: that was part of the problem. He probably had a

1574
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 1: hard time feeling comfortable like everybody did, let alone being

1575
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:09,320
Speaker 1: on a new team and then coming in and then

1576
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:15,599
Speaker 1: having to deal with the COVID protocols as well having

1577
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 1: a loss in your immediate family. There's a lot going on, Yeah,

1578
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 1: to try and concentrate on playing pro football. I feel

1579
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 1: like he looks a lot leaner this year, body type wise,

1580
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:31,759
Speaker 1: and he was actually asked about that when he spoke

1581
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 1: with the media the other day and they asked him,

1582
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 1: were you told to come in at a lighter weight

1583
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 1: because there is this general perception that the Bills are

1584
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 1: looking to be longer and leaner up front so that

1585
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 1: they can have a more effective pass rush. He did

1586
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 1: not confirm that he was asked to come in and

1587
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 1: at a lighter weight, but he did say he is

1588
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 1: a little bit lighter. I think as you get older, though,

1589
01:24:57,080 --> 01:24:58,560
Speaker 1: you kind of want to do that anyway so you

1590
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 1: can maintain your play speed. We know Bruce did that.

1591
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 1: I mean he was down around two fifty eight, two

1592
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 1: fifty nine. Yeah, at the end of his career. Yeah,

1593
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 1: he was two fifty I watched him at two fifty

1594
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 1: nine step on the scale, and he came into the

1595
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:15,160
Speaker 1: league at three fourteen. Yeah, it's amazing how these guys

1596
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:18,960
Speaker 1: can transform their body composition. Yeah, it's really amazing. Well yeah,

1597
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 1: I mean they're they're pros and it means and I

1598
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 1: get it's the deep end of the gene pool we're

1599
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 1: talking about here, but yeah, but it's also the deep

1600
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 1: end of the character pool too. You got a guy

1601
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:30,720
Speaker 1: that's committed and feels a responsibility to do it and

1602
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 1: has some goals he wants to achieve. It's it doesn't

1603
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:37,920
Speaker 1: it's not that it's easier for him. Yeah, it's you.

1604
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 1: They're different, you know, from from the neck up as

1605
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 1: well as the neck down. Yeah, you know, different all

1606
01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:46,680
Speaker 1: the way around. Yeah, we got to take a break here,

1607
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 1: but more of your thoughts on the tweet sheet and

1608
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:51,799
Speaker 1: coming up in the third hour, our colleague Maddie Glabell

1609
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 1: join us as we have a little fun with the

1610
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 1: first seven or eight days of training camp and what

1611
01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 1: has stood out to all of us. We'll be doing

1612
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 1: all that here shortly on one Bill's line presented by

1613
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 1: Kalid to Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. What well change

1614
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 1: the fortunes of the Bills pass rush in twenty twenty one.

1615
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:23,560
Speaker 1: You let us know at eighth, three, five fifty or

1616
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet, which is where we turn to now.

1617
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:29,599
Speaker 1: Rusty says, I'm banking on the young guys. Love Rousseau's

1618
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 1: size and potential. It may take some time, like a

1619
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:34,880
Speaker 1: j last year. Both guys look like they have talent

1620
01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:38,679
Speaker 1: to be defensive line stalwarts. Basham really excites me. He's physical,

1621
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 1: fast and as a great motor. Those numbers in the

1622
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:45,799
Speaker 1: ACC can't be ignored. I bet he has an immediate impact.

1623
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 1: They've moved you know, they're not a friend they I

1624
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:54,559
Speaker 1: think they believe Basham has position flexibility. They've moved him around.

1625
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 1: He's not the only one. As a bunch of guys

1626
01:26:57,160 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 1: they've moved around. But bash him, Steve, because you and

1627
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:04,639
Speaker 1: I were talking about this on the practice field on Tuesday.

1628
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 1: This guy played on kickoff in college at wake Forest

1629
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 1: kickoff return. He was on kickoff return. Yeah, the more

1630
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:16,519
Speaker 1: you can do, the more valuable you are. How big

1631
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:18,560
Speaker 1: an impact he has remains to BC, I'm trying to

1632
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 1: think back over the years of about a rookie defensive

1633
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 1: lineman who really came in and splashed. I think Bruce

1634
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 1: had like what seven is rookie year showbyl at six

1635
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 1: and a half. Yeah, so, you know that's I don't

1636
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:36,800
Speaker 1: know though, it's been a while since the Bills have

1637
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 1: drafted a you know, Shobyl started like right, and so

1638
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 1: did Bruce, like every game like they were out there. Yeah,

1639
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 1: it's it was a different world back then, but it's

1640
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 1: hard to for those guys. You know, it's like comparing

1641
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 1: apples to orange is a little bit because of the

1642
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 1: difference in philosophies defensively that they're going to Bruce was

1643
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 1: in a three four. These guys are running a four

1644
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:02,720
Speaker 1: to three. It's a completely rotational system. It was never

1645
01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:07,160
Speaker 1: that way back in the day. And still a guy

1646
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 1: like Bruce, who ended up getting more sex than anybody

1647
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:11,639
Speaker 1: in the history of the league, you know, started out

1648
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 1: his career with the seven. You know, it's a good year.

1649
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 1: It's you know, it's not like a wow kind of year. Yeah. Yeah,

1650
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 1: So I mean, if you're gonna compare these guys too,

1651
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 1: that okay, Yeah, I could see that happening, especially in

1652
01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:30,840
Speaker 1: the league where there's a lot more pass rushing going on, right,

1653
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:34,519
Speaker 1: there's more rotation here as well, So you would think, well, okay,

1654
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 1: if they're on the roster, there's a good chance they're up,

1655
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:39,080
Speaker 1: and then there's a good chance they'll get some snaps.

1656
01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 1: Maybe it's only twenty five percent at max thirty percent

1657
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:46,600
Speaker 1: of the snaps, but on a roster this deep, I

1658
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:52,160
Speaker 1: think most rookies would take that happily. Brian says, everybody's

1659
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 1: quick to try and throw Star under the bus for

1660
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:56,800
Speaker 1: a lack of stats. He is there to eat up

1661
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:59,639
Speaker 1: big blockers, which he does well. I think the impact

1662
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 1: of his return this year is being overlooked. I would

1663
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:07,000
Speaker 1: say he's going to make an impact. I don't think

1664
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:11,839
Speaker 1: there's any question about that. His presence and the demand

1665
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:16,679
Speaker 1: to handle him with two players should, in theory free

1666
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 1: up the likes of Ed Oliver and maybe the end

1667
01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 1: on the other side a little bit more in one

1668
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:25,599
Speaker 1: on one situations because Starr is, as Brian points out,

1669
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:30,639
Speaker 1: you need two guys they take care of him. Yeah,

1670
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:34,679
Speaker 1: that's that's his role. He did not make a splash

1671
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:39,840
Speaker 1: statistically when he was playing in twenty but he's not

1672
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 1: supposed to us. Not his deal, right, He's you know

1673
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:48,560
Speaker 1: how many times his only stat that should count is

1674
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:50,719
Speaker 1: how many snaps was he double teamed on? What percentage

1675
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:53,120
Speaker 1: of snaps was he double teamed on? If it's a

1676
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:58,200
Speaker 1: high snap count, yeah, okay, job, he's all pro even

1677
01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:02,160
Speaker 1: if he never makes a tackle. Um, that's what he's

1678
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:04,280
Speaker 1: supposed to do. And that's and that's what everybody missed

1679
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:06,800
Speaker 1: last year. You know, they moved two guys to ed

1680
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:10,719
Speaker 1: Oliver and Negate him and whoever was the other side,

1681
01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:14,719
Speaker 1: whether it was Justin Zimmer, whether it was Harrison Phillips,

1682
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:20,720
Speaker 1: even Vernon Butler, you know, nobody really got freed up

1683
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:24,240
Speaker 1: or could make the most of it, so it was Yeah,

1684
01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 1: I think that will be interesting. But I think, you know,

1685
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:32,120
Speaker 1: the high end of the athleticism they've got on the

1686
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:40,800
Speaker 1: outside now with Addison, Jerry Hughes, Rousseau, basham Aj. If

1687
01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 1: they don't, if we don't see a sizeable increase in

1688
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:49,120
Speaker 1: pressures and a noticeable difference in what quarterbacks are going

1689
01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 1: through when they're trying to throw against this club, I'm

1690
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:52,880
Speaker 1: gonna be really disappointed. I think the club will too.

1691
01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:55,880
Speaker 1: They've got some high end athletes outside with some elite

1692
01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:59,560
Speaker 1: traits like fa Obada. Yeah, they I think they'll be

1693
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:02,080
Speaker 1: really disappointed if their pass rush, They're gonna have to

1694
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:04,040
Speaker 1: really do some soul searching if they can't get a

1695
01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:05,960
Speaker 1: good pass rush out of this group. I'm gonna tell you,

1696
01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 1: I think the added element that all this length brings,

1697
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:13,960
Speaker 1: whether you're talking about Obada as you mentioned, or Russo,

1698
01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:20,040
Speaker 1: is batting down passes. So even in situations where you

1699
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:23,400
Speaker 1: might play a quarterback in a given week, for example, Brady,

1700
01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 1: who they're gonna face later this season down in Tampa,

1701
01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:29,479
Speaker 1: he's hard to sack because he gets the ball out

1702
01:31:29,560 --> 01:31:32,280
Speaker 1: so damn fast. Well, if you have two condoors on

1703
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:35,360
Speaker 1: the edges putting their hands up, that's too fewer passing

1704
01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:38,760
Speaker 1: lanes that Brady has at his disposal. And if there's

1705
01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:42,080
Speaker 1: a way you can time that and make him think

1706
01:31:42,120 --> 01:31:44,680
Speaker 1: the windows open and then close it by you know,

1707
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:48,439
Speaker 1: sticking those vines up in the air. You know, now

1708
01:31:48,479 --> 01:31:51,639
Speaker 1: it's second and ten or third and ten or whatever,

1709
01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:55,519
Speaker 1: right I mean there, Yes, you want you want to

1710
01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:57,680
Speaker 1: harass the quarterback. You want to hurry him into ill

1711
01:31:57,680 --> 01:31:59,800
Speaker 1: advised decisions. You want to ideally get him on the

1712
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:03,920
Speaker 1: round and tackle him for loss. But short of that,

1713
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:06,960
Speaker 1: and we've seen it, Steve, there are weeks where you

1714
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:10,240
Speaker 1: just can't get home because the guy's just he's just

1715
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:13,160
Speaker 1: getting it out so fast, being able to get your

1716
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:16,000
Speaker 1: hands up in the passing lanes. I think it's also

1717
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:18,040
Speaker 1: going to pay dividends for this team this year with

1718
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:21,479
Speaker 1: the likes of Rousseau Obada, who's got thirty six inch arms.

1719
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:24,639
Speaker 1: I mean have fun throwing around that, yeah, I think,

1720
01:32:24,760 --> 01:32:28,439
Speaker 1: I think more so than even batted passes, which you'll

1721
01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:30,439
Speaker 1: get some. But quarterbacks, you know, they they got to

1722
01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:32,160
Speaker 1: throw around. They'll know that they can't do that, and

1723
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:34,320
Speaker 1: they'll make a move or they'll move around in the pocket.

1724
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:37,680
Speaker 1: What you will see is a guy about to throw

1725
01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:39,639
Speaker 1: it and pull it down maybe and give an extra

1726
01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 1: half a beat to the route, trying to find a

1727
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:44,760
Speaker 1: way to get it around those guys. Or he'll try

1728
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:47,280
Speaker 1: and throw it around him. It'll turn into an encompletion,

1729
01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:49,920
Speaker 1: even if it's not batted. So it's it's all three

1730
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:53,280
Speaker 1: of those things. Batted down passes, an extra half beat

1731
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 1: to pull it back and try and get it around

1732
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:57,840
Speaker 1: those guys, or a bad throw trying to throw it

1733
01:32:57,880 --> 01:33:00,200
Speaker 1: around him. It turns into an incompletion. All of that

1734
01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:02,160
Speaker 1: stuff's going for you. When I got a quarterback who's

1735
01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:05,519
Speaker 1: thrown out of a you know, a phone booth that's

1736
01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 1: got you know, opaque sides, you know, so you know,

1737
01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:10,280
Speaker 1: you're trying to get it out of there. Where is

1738
01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:13,120
Speaker 1: the light? Right? I just think he exactly like I

1739
01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:16,720
Speaker 1: think the guy's over there, I'm gonna throw it. Um It,

1740
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:19,360
Speaker 1: It's it's exponential. It's not just the fact they can

1741
01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:21,840
Speaker 1: bat it down, is that they alter the quarterbacks throwing motion.

1742
01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:24,800
Speaker 1: They alter his you know, his accuracy because of that,

1743
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:27,599
Speaker 1: or they just he just has to pull it down

1744
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:29,920
Speaker 1: and try and find a space where he can throw it,

1745
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:32,120
Speaker 1: which gives one of the other guys a chance to

1746
01:33:32,160 --> 01:33:34,320
Speaker 1: get a sack. So all of that stuff is in play.

1747
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:38,040
Speaker 1: And I mean we've all done it. I mean you're

1748
01:33:38,040 --> 01:33:39,920
Speaker 1: playing hoops or whatever and you get against a tall

1749
01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:43,000
Speaker 1: guy or you know something, it it changes what you're thinking.

1750
01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:49,000
Speaker 1: Exact step in there, give me the step back, fade away, right,

1751
01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:52,240
Speaker 1: even that doesn't work. Yeah, So that's what you're looking at.

1752
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:56,679
Speaker 1: Um It makes a difference. And this club has invested

1753
01:33:56,720 --> 01:34:00,600
Speaker 1: a lot, certainly at the quarterback position, but also now

1754
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:03,560
Speaker 1: the defensive line position, now the offensive line position. In

1755
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:08,080
Speaker 1: elite traits, they got some high end physical ability. That's

1756
01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:11,639
Speaker 1: why John says, I think A and C the rookies

1757
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:14,240
Speaker 1: are both very talented and skilled, Rousseau with an extremely

1758
01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:18,320
Speaker 1: high ceiling and Basham being more NFL ready now. AJ

1759
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:21,679
Speaker 1: is having a great offseason, very explosive looking and lean.

1760
01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:26,080
Speaker 1: The D line is going to be scary with exclamation

1761
01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:27,799
Speaker 1: point at the end. That that's why I got excited.

1762
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 1: Bruce says the same thing. I think it's a combination

1763
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:34,479
Speaker 1: of AJ and the rookies. They will push Mario to

1764
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:38,200
Speaker 1: be better. Addison, he's referring to Jerry's motors always running.

1765
01:34:38,439 --> 01:34:41,599
Speaker 1: Interior line will be better too with starback. So Bruce

1766
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:45,559
Speaker 1: just picked everything on the board pretty much. It's all

1767
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:48,439
Speaker 1: gonna be better. Yeah, yeah, I love it all. Give

1768
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:51,680
Speaker 1: me more of that. Eric says, I believe a full

1769
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:54,200
Speaker 1: training camp along with younger talent that can step in

1770
01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:58,280
Speaker 1: and help produce the workload and keep people fresher, develops

1771
01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:01,240
Speaker 1: more of a rotation and goes a long way. Talent

1772
01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:03,599
Speaker 1: like Addison and Hughes, we're getting tired and cannot get

1773
01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:08,920
Speaker 1: a jump on defenders. So more often than not, our

1774
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:12,519
Speaker 1: respondents are high on the young talent coming up through

1775
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:16,640
Speaker 1: the pipeline here they look good. I mean, what are

1776
01:35:16,640 --> 01:35:20,560
Speaker 1: you gonna say, we'll see I want to see. I

1777
01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:24,559
Speaker 1: want to see him in the preseason a week from tomorrow. Yes,

1778
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:30,400
Speaker 1: that they will be in Detroit against a team that,

1779
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:34,960
Speaker 1: by all accounts, if they played starters against starters, ones

1780
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:37,479
Speaker 1: against one that they should get. They should shellack that team.

1781
01:35:38,240 --> 01:35:43,760
Speaker 1: The Bills are a deep talented roster. It should show. Yeah,

1782
01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:47,560
Speaker 1: break time for us here when we come back. We

1783
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:50,920
Speaker 1: talk about the first week plus of training camp with

1784
01:35:51,080 --> 01:35:53,839
Speaker 1: our own colleague Mattie Glab, who's been out of every practice,

1785
01:35:54,240 --> 01:35:56,400
Speaker 1: so we'll have a little fun with her in terms

1786
01:35:56,439 --> 01:35:58,720
Speaker 1: of some of the standouts that we all have seen

1787
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:02,880
Speaker 1: through the first seven eight days of camp practice. That's

1788
01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:04,920
Speaker 1: coming your way next year. On One Bill's Live, presented

1789
01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:25,479
Speaker 1: by Kalid to Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. At a

1790
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:29,599
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker who has been over the field. Kind of unique.

1791
01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:31,880
Speaker 1: He was kind of a dual role player for you, Steve,

1792
01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:38,160
Speaker 1: Steve a blimp. We're not even in the strated here

1793
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:44,719
Speaker 1: of normalcy. Here here we are our number three Chris Brown,

1794
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:48,280
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you and joined now by our colleague

1795
01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:53,200
Speaker 1: Maddie Glab, who's controlling the sidelines retraining camp and uh,

1796
01:36:54,160 --> 01:36:56,680
Speaker 1: we're over a weekend now here, Maddie Pans have only

1797
01:36:56,720 --> 01:36:58,880
Speaker 1: been on for a couple of days. So some of

1798
01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:00,920
Speaker 1: the stuff up front we're still kind of all getting

1799
01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:04,400
Speaker 1: a field for obviously, but good to have you with us.

1800
01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:07,840
Speaker 1: And I want to just start with kind of some

1801
01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:11,120
Speaker 1: of the goings on today because we had some players

1802
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:14,640
Speaker 1: come back, we had some players step out, and it

1803
01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:20,240
Speaker 1: afforded some other players some additional opportunities. Right, Yeah, it

1804
01:37:20,400 --> 01:37:22,600
Speaker 1: was really nice to see Ike Bucker back in the

1805
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:26,439
Speaker 1: fold and they didn't hesitate to hold him back at

1806
01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:29,599
Speaker 1: all in training camp practice today. He was thrown right

1807
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:31,320
Speaker 1: into the fold right and in the thick of it,

1808
01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 1: having a fair share of reps with the offensive line,

1809
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:38,599
Speaker 1: so it was nice to see him just jump right

1810
01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:41,519
Speaker 1: back in. He did have a nice block on a

1811
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:46,080
Speaker 1: screen pass to Zach Moss that caught my eye. But

1812
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:49,400
Speaker 1: him being out, I mean today was practice number seven

1813
01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:52,559
Speaker 1: and he was on the reserve and COVID nineteen list,

1814
01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:55,599
Speaker 1: and so you would think it's a padded practice today,

1815
01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:58,600
Speaker 1: they might ease him into things. He hasn't had a

1816
01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:02,160
Speaker 1: training camp practice yet, but nope, he went right into it.

1817
01:38:02,680 --> 01:38:06,439
Speaker 1: Um repping in with guys quite a bit, and which

1818
01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:09,519
Speaker 1: is great for him because you think about the offensive line,

1819
01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:12,880
Speaker 1: and you guys have probably talked about this already, that's

1820
01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:16,519
Speaker 1: a pretty stacked group the offensive line and the defensive line.

1821
01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:19,120
Speaker 1: There's some good competition in that room to make that

1822
01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:24,439
Speaker 1: final roster and for him it definitely helps him having

1823
01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:27,200
Speaker 1: a nice fair share of reps on his first day

1824
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:30,760
Speaker 1: back to training camp and also showing out on some

1825
01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:33,960
Speaker 1: of those plays that he had a nice block there.

1826
01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:37,200
Speaker 1: Like I just said, yep, what else grab you about?

1827
01:38:37,200 --> 01:38:38,920
Speaker 1: I mean this is I mean right now and you

1828
01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:41,200
Speaker 1: haven't played a preseason game yet. This is the dark

1829
01:38:41,400 --> 01:38:44,360
Speaker 1: days of training camp. I mean it was it was

1830
01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:46,479
Speaker 1: smoking hot out there. I mean it was just it

1831
01:38:46,600 --> 01:38:48,080
Speaker 1: was we felt like I felt like I was in

1832
01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:55,120
Speaker 1: a stir fry o. Yes, and what what grab You've

1833
01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:57,799
Speaker 1: been out there with us? We everybody sees things differently.

1834
01:38:57,880 --> 01:38:59,840
Speaker 1: How did you how do you see this camp going?

1835
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:02,880
Speaker 1: I mean, this is it's a deep, prostered, high expectations.

1836
01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:06,240
Speaker 1: It's talent everywhere, new guys that everybody's intrigued about. But

1837
01:39:06,680 --> 01:39:09,840
Speaker 1: you know what's caught your eye? What are your general

1838
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:12,680
Speaker 1: thoughts about this training camp compared to say, you know

1839
01:39:12,760 --> 01:39:14,640
Speaker 1: a little bit of what we saw last year and

1840
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:16,680
Speaker 1: two years ago your time here in Buffalo. I mean

1841
01:39:16,720 --> 01:39:19,120
Speaker 1: this is this is training camp like we haven't seen

1842
01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:23,200
Speaker 1: for a while. Yeah. I mean the defense has definitely

1843
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:25,439
Speaker 1: picked up the pace since they've put the pads on,

1844
01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:27,640
Speaker 1: which I think a lot of us expected. Once they

1845
01:39:27,720 --> 01:39:29,760
Speaker 1: get the pads on, they can be a little bit

1846
01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:33,479
Speaker 1: more intense in practice, being able to do thud, which

1847
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:36,320
Speaker 1: of course without pads you can't do. But the offense

1848
01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:39,240
Speaker 1: has really stood out this training camp and almost to

1849
01:39:39,320 --> 01:39:41,880
Speaker 1: the point where you get so used to it's like, oh,

1850
01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:44,920
Speaker 1: another Josh Allen completion, Another Josh Allen completion, another Josh

1851
01:39:45,240 --> 01:39:48,360
Speaker 1: Alan completion. Oh yeah on training camp and it's like, no,

1852
01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:52,360
Speaker 1: this offense looks so good in the first seven practices,

1853
01:39:52,479 --> 01:39:55,519
Speaker 1: almost like they picked up where they left off from

1854
01:39:55,640 --> 01:39:57,880
Speaker 1: last season. And I think that's what a lot of

1855
01:39:57,920 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 1: people were hoping for when we would look at the

1856
01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:03,320
Speaker 1: his team here and the end of July early August.

1857
01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:07,720
Speaker 1: But we're now seeing that and just seeing Josh with

1858
01:40:07,880 --> 01:40:11,360
Speaker 1: his connections with his receivers. He looks great. With Emmanuel

1859
01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:14,920
Speaker 1: Sanders already that's someone who missed practice today, but he's

1860
01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:18,200
Speaker 1: had a nice early connection with Emmanuel Sanders. He's looked

1861
01:40:18,280 --> 01:40:22,360
Speaker 1: great with Cole Beasley, great with Stefan Diggs, Gabriel Davis.

1862
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:25,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you know the names on the offense the

1863
01:40:25,240 --> 01:40:28,920
Speaker 1: last season, and he's looked great connecting with so many

1864
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:32,080
Speaker 1: of the players in the wide receiver room, in the

1865
01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:35,960
Speaker 1: running backs room through the first almost week and a

1866
01:40:36,040 --> 01:40:38,840
Speaker 1: half of practice here. So that's been really great to

1867
01:40:38,960 --> 01:40:41,920
Speaker 1: see as this offense kind of take the next step

1868
01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:45,280
Speaker 1: and not regress at all getting back to the field

1869
01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:49,040
Speaker 1: in training camp, and the defense has definitely stepped up

1870
01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:51,439
Speaker 1: to the challenge once they put the pads on. There

1871
01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:55,439
Speaker 1: were three interceptions today. Tremaine Edmunds has looked awesome in

1872
01:40:55,560 --> 01:40:58,240
Speaker 1: the first week and a half. He had an interception

1873
01:40:58,320 --> 01:41:02,840
Speaker 1: and a pass breakup today. Teriks Thompson had an interception today.

1874
01:41:02,840 --> 01:41:06,519
Speaker 1: It was his second of camp. Joe got Giles Harris

1875
01:41:06,640 --> 01:41:10,320
Speaker 1: had an interception today in a fumble recovery. So there's

1876
01:41:10,360 --> 01:41:13,320
Speaker 1: some some not so big name players making names, which

1877
01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:15,880
Speaker 1: is something that you want to see, especially if you're

1878
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:18,960
Speaker 1: someone who's fighting for a roster spot on a team

1879
01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:22,360
Speaker 1: that's going to be really hard to make the final roster. Yeah,

1880
01:41:22,479 --> 01:41:25,320
Speaker 1: it's almost it's only been a year that this offense

1881
01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:27,599
Speaker 1: has really been a juggernaut. I'm almost embarrassed to say,

1882
01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:30,920
Speaker 1: like we've been desensitized to it already. I mean where

1883
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:32,519
Speaker 1: it's like a week in a camp we're watching all

1884
01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:35,200
Speaker 1: these plays get made by the offense and like, oh, yeah,

1885
01:41:35,240 --> 01:41:36,720
Speaker 1: well we saw a lot of that last year, no

1886
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:41,400
Speaker 1: big deal, and you almost forgot, like how difficult it

1887
01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:43,760
Speaker 1: was watching training camp over the year, Steve, when it

1888
01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:49,040
Speaker 1: was just rough. Let's just say for lack of lack

1889
01:41:49,080 --> 01:41:51,880
Speaker 1: of a better term. But Maddie, one of the main

1890
01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:54,320
Speaker 1: reasons we have you here is to kind of go

1891
01:41:54,640 --> 01:41:57,280
Speaker 1: have a little fun and go over some I guess

1892
01:41:57,320 --> 01:41:59,800
Speaker 1: we call them what training camp superlatives. Is that where

1893
01:41:59,800 --> 01:42:05,200
Speaker 1: we're l I think so some training camp superlatives they're

1894
01:42:05,240 --> 01:42:07,160
Speaker 1: the first week and a half. I know we've we've

1895
01:42:07,240 --> 01:42:09,120
Speaker 1: gotten a decent look at some of these guys, So

1896
01:42:09,240 --> 01:42:12,200
Speaker 1: why not there are some superlatives on this team through

1897
01:42:12,320 --> 01:42:15,919
Speaker 1: seven practices, and we can all pick some names according

1898
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:19,360
Speaker 1: to the categories that we've got. All right, well, let's start.

1899
01:42:19,439 --> 01:42:21,719
Speaker 1: Let's start on the he said, the offense was clicking,

1900
01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:24,960
Speaker 1: like it picked up right where it left off. What

1901
01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:28,400
Speaker 1: does the offensive stand out in your mind? I mean

1902
01:42:28,479 --> 01:42:31,200
Speaker 1: the easy answer is Josh Allen of course, he like

1903
01:42:31,400 --> 01:42:34,639
Speaker 1: I Like I said a minute ago, this guy looks

1904
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:38,280
Speaker 1: really good. He looks primed to take another step forward.

1905
01:42:38,360 --> 01:42:41,280
Speaker 1: There has been no regression in his play that we

1906
01:42:41,439 --> 01:42:44,519
Speaker 1: can see in the first seven practices of camp. And

1907
01:42:44,600 --> 01:42:47,840
Speaker 1: I know out of those first seven several with we're

1908
01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:52,240
Speaker 1: without pads, so really what can you tell? But what

1909
01:42:52,479 --> 01:42:55,840
Speaker 1: we can tell from watching on the sidelines is he's

1910
01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:59,040
Speaker 1: got a nice connection with so many of these players

1911
01:42:59,080 --> 01:43:02,760
Speaker 1: and these weapons on this offense, and the guys are

1912
01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:06,360
Speaker 1: making great plays. But he's also had some incredible throws

1913
01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:10,240
Speaker 1: where you stop and say, oh my gosh, that was

1914
01:43:10,360 --> 01:43:13,320
Speaker 1: a great pass by Josh, and I know we've done

1915
01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:17,840
Speaker 1: that several times throughout the season last year. But he's

1916
01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:23,599
Speaker 1: making a name for himself again in camp. Another offensive standout.

1917
01:43:23,680 --> 01:43:27,200
Speaker 1: He's more under the radar type of guy. Jake Kumro

1918
01:43:27,320 --> 01:43:29,160
Speaker 1: is someone who's had a great camp. I'll talk about

1919
01:43:29,240 --> 01:43:31,240
Speaker 1: him a little bit more later, but those are some

1920
01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:34,560
Speaker 1: two players on offense that I think have had a

1921
01:43:34,720 --> 01:43:37,560
Speaker 1: great first seven practices. I know Josh is kind of

1922
01:43:37,640 --> 01:43:40,799
Speaker 1: like an easy answer, but he's the one who's controlling

1923
01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:43,560
Speaker 1: the offense. He's top of the line. For me, I

1924
01:43:43,560 --> 01:43:46,320
Speaker 1: would say, what about you guys, Yeah, I had kum

1925
01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:51,559
Speaker 1: is my guy. And this is more a pick for me, Maddie.

1926
01:43:51,640 --> 01:43:55,559
Speaker 1: That's rooted in consistency maybe more than anything else, because

1927
01:43:55,960 --> 01:43:59,200
Speaker 1: I think very often through these first seven days, sure

1928
01:43:59,240 --> 01:44:02,120
Speaker 1: there have been people that have flashed a day here

1929
01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:04,439
Speaker 1: or a day here, or this was a good day

1930
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:07,120
Speaker 1: for this guy, but then you come out the next

1931
01:44:07,240 --> 01:44:10,720
Speaker 1: day and they don't flash the same way. I think,

1932
01:44:10,840 --> 01:44:13,920
Speaker 1: out of the seven days of camp that we've had,

1933
01:44:14,080 --> 01:44:17,719
Speaker 1: you could argue that Kumarro's had four really strong days

1934
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:21,200
Speaker 1: out of the seven. And for guys on the back

1935
01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:24,040
Speaker 1: end to that receiver group, I don't think anybody else

1936
01:44:24,080 --> 01:44:26,800
Speaker 1: has come close to him. Now, you know, Diggs is

1937
01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:30,040
Speaker 1: making plays every day, Basiley is making plays every day.

1938
01:44:30,439 --> 01:44:32,439
Speaker 1: Sanders has kind of been in and out. But and

1939
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:35,320
Speaker 1: that's the other thing too. When Sanders had to step

1940
01:44:35,360 --> 01:44:38,799
Speaker 1: out of practice early at the stadium practice, Kumarro stepped

1941
01:44:38,840 --> 01:44:41,040
Speaker 1: in and took advantage of it. He had that big

1942
01:44:41,120 --> 01:44:44,880
Speaker 1: bobble catch for a touchdown. And then today no Sanders. Today,

1943
01:44:45,120 --> 01:44:47,880
Speaker 1: Kumarro gets more reps and he's making plays. He had

1944
01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:51,960
Speaker 1: a huge over the shoulder play against tradevious White down

1945
01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:54,880
Speaker 1: in the front pylon by the end zone. He's been

1946
01:44:54,960 --> 01:44:58,200
Speaker 1: one of the most consistent performers, and that's what speaks

1947
01:44:58,240 --> 01:45:01,040
Speaker 1: to me more than just one or two highlight real plays.

1948
01:45:01,320 --> 01:45:03,840
Speaker 1: If he's making him day after day after day, that

1949
01:45:04,040 --> 01:45:07,240
Speaker 1: resonates with coaches. Yeah, absolutely, consistency is what they're looking for.

1950
01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:10,640
Speaker 1: A guy that doesn't flash and then disappear for three

1951
01:45:10,760 --> 01:45:13,200
Speaker 1: or four days, and Kumero certainly falls into that. But

1952
01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:16,720
Speaker 1: I would for me the superlative of this camp is

1953
01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:21,800
Speaker 1: the quarterback. Certainly, all these guys can do whatever they want,

1954
01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:25,880
Speaker 1: and but the guy delivering the football to me, I'm

1955
01:45:26,680 --> 01:45:28,639
Speaker 1: Josh took a huge step forward last year. We didn't

1956
01:45:28,640 --> 01:45:30,560
Speaker 1: get a chance to see what he looked like in

1957
01:45:30,680 --> 01:45:33,400
Speaker 1: training camp last year, so I don't know whether he

1958
01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:37,040
Speaker 1: did this exact same thing last year or not. But

1959
01:45:37,240 --> 01:45:40,960
Speaker 1: that guy, right there's the engine of this entire franchise

1960
01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:44,799
Speaker 1: right now. The way he handles the offense, the throws

1961
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:47,439
Speaker 1: that he makes, the confidence that he instills, the way

1962
01:45:47,439 --> 01:45:52,679
Speaker 1: he spreads it around, the way he allows other players

1963
01:45:52,720 --> 01:45:55,400
Speaker 1: on the office to elevate that all the skilled players

1964
01:45:55,960 --> 01:45:58,799
Speaker 1: are way better because that guy's throwing him the football,

1965
01:45:59,360 --> 01:46:01,559
Speaker 1: and how good And some of the throws he's made.

1966
01:46:01,640 --> 01:46:04,200
Speaker 1: I mean there's like one or two a day where

1967
01:46:04,240 --> 01:46:08,680
Speaker 1: it's like, that's a pretty good I can do that.

1968
01:46:09,160 --> 01:46:11,280
Speaker 1: And one of our one of the only handful of

1969
01:46:11,360 --> 01:46:13,080
Speaker 1: guys in the entire plan that can make that throw.

1970
01:46:13,160 --> 01:46:15,400
Speaker 1: We got him. We got one of them. Um. So

1971
01:46:15,560 --> 01:46:20,519
Speaker 1: I'm with Maddie, I think, Josh. I mean this so far,

1972
01:46:20,640 --> 01:46:22,479
Speaker 1: the first week of training camp has just been one

1973
01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:26,639
Speaker 1: giant flex. I mean, it's just when one throw after

1974
01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:29,439
Speaker 1: the other, one thing after the other. He's out there.

1975
01:46:29,479 --> 01:46:31,680
Speaker 1: He's got a different handshake for every guy on the road.

1976
01:46:31,680 --> 01:46:33,760
Speaker 1: I don't know how he remembers the hands How the

1977
01:46:33,800 --> 01:46:36,000
Speaker 1: hell does he remember all those I believe it blows

1978
01:46:36,040 --> 01:46:38,200
Speaker 1: my mind. I don't get So. I think I think

1979
01:46:38,439 --> 01:46:43,679
Speaker 1: that right there is enough for me to say, you know, yeah,

1980
01:46:43,880 --> 01:46:47,160
Speaker 1: that's an MVP having training camp with a team that

1981
01:46:48,120 --> 01:46:50,160
Speaker 1: is built around him. All right, Maddy, So let's flip

1982
01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:52,080
Speaker 1: it over to the defensive side of the ball. Here,

1983
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:56,760
Speaker 1: where do you want to go? Well, I have a

1984
01:46:56,920 --> 01:47:00,280
Speaker 1: couple of answers that I have written down. But someone

1985
01:47:00,320 --> 01:47:02,640
Speaker 1: who had a good practice today that I think you

1986
01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:05,599
Speaker 1: can string together a couple of plays that he's had,

1987
01:47:06,280 --> 01:47:08,840
Speaker 1: I think is Tremaine Edmunds. So this is someone that

1988
01:47:08,960 --> 01:47:12,320
Speaker 1: we're all looking to take another step forward in his

1989
01:47:12,479 --> 01:47:15,080
Speaker 1: game and his leadership this season. We know him and

1990
01:47:15,160 --> 01:47:19,479
Speaker 1: Matt Milano had their spout of injuries throughout the season

1991
01:47:19,600 --> 01:47:23,280
Speaker 1: and we didn't see him or Matt Milano at times

1992
01:47:23,400 --> 01:47:28,600
Speaker 1: in games, and he's someone who was Leslie Fraser was

1993
01:47:28,680 --> 01:47:33,000
Speaker 1: asked about what does Tremaine Edmunds and Ed Oliver need

1994
01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:36,800
Speaker 1: to do in this season, and Leslie's answer was they

1995
01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:40,479
Speaker 1: need to make more splash plays to have a bigger role.

1996
01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:43,560
Speaker 1: They have a huge role, but to have a solidified

1997
01:47:43,760 --> 01:47:46,680
Speaker 1: role in this defense, to be those playmakers, to be

1998
01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:50,679
Speaker 1: those leaders on this defense. And Tremaine has had three

1999
01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:52,760
Speaker 1: plays that I can think of off the top of

2000
01:47:52,880 --> 01:47:56,519
Speaker 1: my head where he stood out. He had an interception today,

2001
01:47:56,600 --> 01:47:59,920
Speaker 1: He had a pass breakup in coverage also today again

2002
01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:04,280
Speaker 1: Stephan Diggs a pretty good receiver, and he also had

2003
01:48:04,320 --> 01:48:07,599
Speaker 1: a past deflection a couple practices ago. This is someone

2004
01:48:07,680 --> 01:48:10,120
Speaker 1: who has stood out to me when we're in team

2005
01:48:10,240 --> 01:48:13,519
Speaker 1: periods so I'm happy for that guy. He's such a

2006
01:48:13,640 --> 01:48:16,599
Speaker 1: great player. And I think if you were to ask,

2007
01:48:17,160 --> 01:48:19,160
Speaker 1: I mean, Brownie, if I would ask you or Steve,

2008
01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:20,800
Speaker 1: you know, what do you want to see more about

2009
01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:23,719
Speaker 1: a Tremaine? And I think it would be those splash plays.

2010
01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:26,160
Speaker 1: And we're seeing that here in the first week and

2011
01:48:26,200 --> 01:48:28,959
Speaker 1: a half of camp and it makes me really excited

2012
01:48:29,080 --> 01:48:32,439
Speaker 1: because they dee of what he can be for this

2013
01:48:32,640 --> 01:48:36,120
Speaker 1: team this season. Yeah, more impact plays, game changing ti plays.

2014
01:48:36,120 --> 01:48:37,720
Speaker 1: I think anybody would want to see that. And I

2015
01:48:37,800 --> 01:48:40,840
Speaker 1: think that's and don't I know you don't hear this

2016
01:48:40,960 --> 01:48:42,840
Speaker 1: as much as we do, Mattie, because we have a

2017
01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:48,400
Speaker 1: fair amount of callers that are critical of Tremaine because

2018
01:48:48,479 --> 01:48:51,479
Speaker 1: they haven't seen as many of those game changing plays

2019
01:48:51,560 --> 01:48:56,000
Speaker 1: through his first three seasons. And it's just like, all right,

2020
01:48:56,080 --> 01:48:58,200
Speaker 1: let's pump the brakes or let's not forget he's twenty

2021
01:48:58,240 --> 01:49:01,920
Speaker 1: one years old, and I think we're starting to see

2022
01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:04,880
Speaker 1: that maturity in his game where he has the confidence

2023
01:49:05,479 --> 01:49:09,120
Speaker 1: to maybe take a chance or take a little bit

2024
01:49:09,160 --> 01:49:12,800
Speaker 1: of risk and not just be robotic in his assignments,

2025
01:49:13,160 --> 01:49:16,160
Speaker 1: and that allows his unique athleticism to take over. And

2026
01:49:16,280 --> 01:49:19,080
Speaker 1: we've seen that. I figured one of you guys might

2027
01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:21,120
Speaker 1: go that way, so I didn't want to have a

2028
01:49:21,200 --> 01:49:24,880
Speaker 1: repeato answer, so I went with siran Neil. And the

2029
01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:28,439
Speaker 1: only reason I did was not because he's necessarily made

2030
01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:31,320
Speaker 1: splash plays like we were just talking about with Tremaine Edmonds.

2031
01:49:31,680 --> 01:49:35,280
Speaker 1: But again, I'm going back to consistency of play, and

2032
01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:38,840
Speaker 1: it's clear to me that he has taken a step

2033
01:49:38,920 --> 01:49:42,880
Speaker 1: in that area because I don't think Leslie Frasier or

2034
01:49:44,240 --> 01:49:48,080
Speaker 1: defensive backs coach John Butler puts him in the position

2035
01:49:48,200 --> 01:49:52,519
Speaker 1: he's playing right now unless they trust him to execute it,

2036
01:49:52,520 --> 01:49:56,719
Speaker 1: because that is a difficult position. As Leslie Frasier said himself,

2037
01:49:56,800 --> 01:49:59,400
Speaker 1: you know, putting him inside and having him work in there,

2038
01:50:00,560 --> 01:50:02,880
Speaker 1: there's a lot of responsibility. You have to be a

2039
01:50:02,960 --> 01:50:06,599
Speaker 1: run forced player. You have to defend against two way goes.

2040
01:50:07,080 --> 01:50:12,320
Speaker 1: So seeing him in that role and not seeing him, well,

2041
01:50:12,400 --> 01:50:14,120
Speaker 1: this is probably not enough of a compliment. I was

2042
01:50:14,120 --> 01:50:15,960
Speaker 1: gonna say, he doesn't look lost out there. It looks

2043
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:18,880
Speaker 1: like he belongs. He looks comfortable in his own skin

2044
01:50:19,439 --> 01:50:22,320
Speaker 1: in that position. I know he had an interception and

2045
01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:24,600
Speaker 1: one on ones the other day, so you know his

2046
01:50:24,680 --> 01:50:27,880
Speaker 1: coverability is good enough. And I just think if he

2047
01:50:27,960 --> 01:50:31,880
Speaker 1: can keep along on that track and maybe make some

2048
01:50:31,960 --> 01:50:34,600
Speaker 1: plays in the preseason, he might push Tarren Johnson a

2049
01:50:34,640 --> 01:50:39,439
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, that's that's a possibility. My defensive player

2050
01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:43,560
Speaker 1: who's been a standout is because of the scrutiny that

2051
01:50:43,640 --> 01:50:46,200
Speaker 1: was going to be at his position. Cornerback two, Levi

2052
01:50:46,439 --> 01:50:50,519
Speaker 1: Wallace once again has been under the microscope for the

2053
01:50:50,680 --> 01:50:53,000
Speaker 1: entire offseason. So he shows up in training camp with

2054
01:50:53,280 --> 01:50:55,360
Speaker 1: yet you know, two more young guys and a draft

2055
01:50:55,439 --> 01:50:57,200
Speaker 1: pick that are going to try and take his job.

2056
01:50:57,600 --> 01:50:59,680
Speaker 1: It's not a former number one pick, it's not a

2057
01:51:00,439 --> 01:51:03,479
Speaker 1: highest played cornerback in the league coming in to take

2058
01:51:03,520 --> 01:51:05,720
Speaker 1: his job. Not this time. This time, it's a draft

2059
01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:08,080
Speaker 1: pick from this year and a draft pick from last

2060
01:51:08,200 --> 01:51:09,880
Speaker 1: year who are going to try and take his job.

2061
01:51:09,960 --> 01:51:15,280
Speaker 1: And he right now, nobody's even close. Yeah, nobody's even

2062
01:51:15,320 --> 01:51:20,719
Speaker 1: close to taking Levi Wallace's job. He is absolutely rock solid.

2063
01:51:21,680 --> 01:51:27,679
Speaker 1: He'll give up a completion, a past completion like everybody,

2064
01:51:27,760 --> 01:51:31,880
Speaker 1: every dB does, but he's always right in the hip

2065
01:51:31,960 --> 01:51:35,160
Speaker 1: pocket of the guy who catches it. He's never getting

2066
01:51:35,280 --> 01:51:37,960
Speaker 1: dropped off at the break point going the wrong way

2067
01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:41,320
Speaker 1: and the receiver's wide open. He's always on him. He's

2068
01:51:41,439 --> 01:51:46,200
Speaker 1: so consistent, he never gets fooled. He is exactly where

2069
01:51:46,200 --> 01:51:48,840
Speaker 1: he's supposed to be and it takes a really good

2070
01:51:48,920 --> 01:51:53,080
Speaker 1: play to beat him. He's gonna be to me right now,

2071
01:51:54,520 --> 01:51:56,879
Speaker 1: it's not even close. He's gonna be the starting cornerback

2072
01:51:56,960 --> 01:52:00,240
Speaker 1: number two for the Buffalo Bills again this year. And

2073
01:52:00,600 --> 01:52:03,560
Speaker 1: so he's calling it today. I mean, played a preseason

2074
01:52:03,680 --> 01:52:06,679
Speaker 1: game for the For the scrutiny that he's been under,

2075
01:52:07,880 --> 01:52:11,880
Speaker 1: for the conversations that even casual fans will have about

2076
01:52:11,960 --> 01:52:15,760
Speaker 1: his position, he doesn't. He just doesn't go away. And

2077
01:52:15,920 --> 01:52:17,720
Speaker 1: I think right now, I think you've got to You've

2078
01:52:17,720 --> 01:52:19,599
Speaker 1: got to tip your hat to the camp he's had

2079
01:52:19,680 --> 01:52:24,519
Speaker 1: here in the first week of absolutely solidifying his spot

2080
01:52:24,560 --> 01:52:27,360
Speaker 1: as the number two corner on the team. All Right, So, Maddie,

2081
01:52:27,400 --> 01:52:30,160
Speaker 1: you wanted to touch on the rookies. Obviously, fans are

2082
01:52:30,280 --> 01:52:34,760
Speaker 1: very excited about the draft class. So we're looking for

2083
01:52:34,920 --> 01:52:40,200
Speaker 1: a rookie standout. Is that where we're going. Yes, yeah,

2084
01:52:40,240 --> 01:52:42,800
Speaker 1: we're looking for a rookie standout. And I think we

2085
01:52:42,920 --> 01:52:46,400
Speaker 1: all may have similar answers on this one. Not that

2086
01:52:46,600 --> 01:52:49,439
Speaker 1: there's too many rookies to choose from, but there's been

2087
01:52:49,479 --> 01:52:52,519
Speaker 1: a couple who have had some really good practices. And

2088
01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:57,240
Speaker 1: I'll start first, I feel like Greg Russell and Buggy

2089
01:52:57,320 --> 01:53:02,800
Speaker 1: Basham have definitely outplayed expectations from people already. You know,

2090
01:53:02,960 --> 01:53:06,040
Speaker 1: Brandon bean was asked, what role are they gonna have?

2091
01:53:06,200 --> 01:53:08,120
Speaker 1: Are they going to have a role this year? Are

2092
01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:11,880
Speaker 1: you drafting someone to to be able to come into

2093
01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:15,920
Speaker 1: this defense and play year one? What's your thought process

2094
01:53:16,040 --> 01:53:18,840
Speaker 1: on that? Then they draft Greg Rusto and then they

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01:53:18,960 --> 01:53:23,320
Speaker 1: draft Boogie Basham and you're thinking, Okay, the defensive end

2096
01:53:23,400 --> 01:53:26,000
Speaker 1: class wasn't the best. I mean, it's not like the

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01:53:26,080 --> 01:53:28,880
Speaker 1: Bills were picking top five and had the top type,

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01:53:29,240 --> 01:53:32,400
Speaker 1: top tier caliber at that position, but they were really

2099
01:53:32,520 --> 01:53:35,040
Speaker 1: excited about what they got. And Greg Russo and Buggie

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01:53:35,120 --> 01:53:38,080
Speaker 1: Bashem and I think Brandon Benkind played it off like yeah,

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01:53:38,200 --> 01:53:40,720
Speaker 1: you know they'll have a role, but you know, we're

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01:53:40,760 --> 01:53:42,840
Speaker 1: not sure how big of a role. And then they

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01:53:42,920 --> 01:53:46,639
Speaker 1: come out to camp and they're always on the field,

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01:53:47,000 --> 01:53:51,479
Speaker 1: those two. And Greg Rusto has had his fair share

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Speaker 1: of a couple of sacks and practices, and Leslie Fraser

2106
01:53:55,400 --> 01:53:58,320
Speaker 1: has said both of them have handled everything that's been

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01:53:58,439 --> 01:54:01,599
Speaker 1: thrown at them. Thus, are they've done a good job.

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01:54:01,960 --> 01:54:05,040
Speaker 1: You ask the vets about them. Mario Addison had a

2109
01:54:05,160 --> 01:54:09,559
Speaker 1: lot of wonderful things to say about their size, their body, makeup,

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01:54:09,720 --> 01:54:12,920
Speaker 1: their mentality, they're smarts. I mean, you ask any of

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Speaker 1: these veterans about these two rookies, and it's kind of like, well,

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01:54:16,120 --> 01:54:19,240
Speaker 1: they're ahead of the curve, they'ad they're way more ahead

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01:54:19,280 --> 01:54:22,160
Speaker 1: of where I was when I was a rookie. And

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01:54:22,320 --> 01:54:27,120
Speaker 1: so watching them go up against a talented offensive line

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01:54:27,600 --> 01:54:30,800
Speaker 1: that's not full of rookies. Yes, we've seen Spencer Brown

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01:54:30,880 --> 01:54:33,200
Speaker 1: out there quite a bit because Dion Dawkins is on

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01:54:33,280 --> 01:54:37,440
Speaker 1: the reserve COVID nineteen list, but they've held their own

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01:54:37,560 --> 01:54:39,920
Speaker 1: through the first week and a half, and that also

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01:54:40,000 --> 01:54:42,080
Speaker 1: makes me pretty pumped to see what they can do

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01:54:42,640 --> 01:54:46,200
Speaker 1: in year one with this defense. I mean, you look

2121
01:54:46,280 --> 01:54:49,320
Speaker 1: at Greg Russo's size, and we all know his size

2122
01:54:49,360 --> 01:54:52,800
Speaker 1: by now, but this is gonna be a long defensive

2123
01:54:52,880 --> 01:54:55,640
Speaker 1: line and it's gonna bode well for them when they're

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01:54:55,680 --> 01:54:59,240
Speaker 1: trying to get to the quarterback this year. Yeah, I

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01:54:59,320 --> 01:55:02,400
Speaker 1: think me. I think it's it's exactly the coin flip

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01:55:02,440 --> 01:55:04,160
Speaker 1: of what you said. We've got a chance because of

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01:55:05,200 --> 01:55:08,400
Speaker 1: Dion Dawkins being out of the lineup for the first

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01:55:08,440 --> 01:55:11,240
Speaker 1: week of training camp. Spencer Brown's filled in has looked

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01:55:11,240 --> 01:55:16,480
Speaker 1: like a pro. Certainly, he's a half a head taller

2130
01:55:16,520 --> 01:55:18,320
Speaker 1: than Josh Allen in the huddle, which is in and

2131
01:55:18,680 --> 01:55:21,880
Speaker 1: of itself, is an oddity. But he's shown he played

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01:55:21,960 --> 01:55:24,919
Speaker 1: right tackle, he played left tackle when he was drafted.

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01:55:25,280 --> 01:55:27,560
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean said, yeah, he's probably are a swing tackle

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01:55:27,680 --> 01:55:30,000
Speaker 1: right now because tynes Secki was last year and he's

2135
01:55:30,040 --> 01:55:33,960
Speaker 1: gone on and he it's not too big for him.

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01:55:34,000 --> 01:55:37,400
Speaker 1: He's got the athleticism to play both sides. He doesn't

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01:55:37,440 --> 01:55:40,240
Speaker 1: look out matched by anybody that he's gone against thus far.

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01:55:41,000 --> 01:55:43,640
Speaker 1: And I think Spencer Brown is a guy who's he's

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01:55:43,680 --> 01:55:45,760
Speaker 1: gonna be a professional football player for a long time,

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01:55:45,920 --> 01:55:48,520
Speaker 1: a long time, and I think he's probably going to

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01:55:48,520 --> 01:55:50,920
Speaker 1: be a Buffalo Bill for a long time. Yeah, he

2142
01:55:51,040 --> 01:55:54,280
Speaker 1: just got that kind of wherewithal around him. Steve still

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01:55:54,440 --> 01:55:57,640
Speaker 1: my answer, but I'm going with the brother from another

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01:55:57,720 --> 01:56:02,560
Speaker 1: mother as well. Yeah, he looks like he belongs. And

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01:56:02,920 --> 01:56:04,920
Speaker 1: you can't always say that about a rookie in their

2146
01:56:04,960 --> 01:56:07,320
Speaker 1: first week in training camp. Sometimes their heads swimming a

2147
01:56:07,360 --> 01:56:11,160
Speaker 1: little bit and they miss an assignment or their technique

2148
01:56:11,360 --> 01:56:14,920
Speaker 1: isn't consistent and some plays look better than others. And

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01:56:15,000 --> 01:56:17,280
Speaker 1: I know we're only two days in pads, So is

2150
01:56:17,320 --> 01:56:20,360
Speaker 1: it really a fair assessment yet to be judging Lineman?

2151
01:56:20,480 --> 01:56:24,120
Speaker 1: Probably not, but he just looks like he belongs to

2152
01:56:24,280 --> 01:56:27,720
Speaker 1: me and seeing him in there getting as much time

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01:56:28,120 --> 01:56:30,440
Speaker 1: as he is, you know, with Dion Dawkins out, as

2154
01:56:30,440 --> 01:56:33,600
Speaker 1: you mentioned, Maddie, I think it's only going to help

2155
01:56:33,680 --> 01:56:37,080
Speaker 1: serve him all the better if for some reason he

2156
01:56:37,160 --> 01:56:42,640
Speaker 1: needs to be inserted in the lineup coming the regular season. Yeah,

2157
01:56:42,720 --> 01:56:45,200
Speaker 1: look at us saying the top three draft picks have

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01:56:45,680 --> 01:56:48,560
Speaker 1: shown out in the first seven practices of camp. I

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01:56:48,640 --> 01:56:52,920
Speaker 1: think that's something that fans should be happy about, and saying, yeah,

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01:56:53,080 --> 01:56:56,200
Speaker 1: Gregor so Boogie Basham, and Spencer Brown, they look pretty

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01:56:56,240 --> 01:57:00,400
Speaker 1: good here, probably rolling their eyes at us, right, yeah, okay,

2162
01:57:00,440 --> 01:57:02,840
Speaker 1: we're going to say that, Yeah, right, Yeah, we're going

2163
01:57:02,880 --> 01:57:05,320
Speaker 1: out on a limb there in a big way. Bill's

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01:57:05,360 --> 01:57:08,360
Speaker 1: player to keep an eye on as camp continues. Kind

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01:57:08,360 --> 01:57:12,520
Speaker 1: of an under the radar type player that maybe fans

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01:57:13,280 --> 01:57:16,720
Speaker 1: don't know as a household name just yet. I'll mention

2167
01:57:16,800 --> 01:57:19,080
Speaker 1: a couple and you've already mentioned one of these names.

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01:57:19,200 --> 01:57:21,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if he can be under the radar

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01:57:21,520 --> 01:57:24,640
Speaker 1: anymore after what we've seen out of him the last

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01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:28,920
Speaker 1: since since campus started. Really, I mean, Jake Kumerou came

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01:57:28,960 --> 01:57:31,840
Speaker 1: into camp as an under the radar player, but I

2172
01:57:31,920 --> 01:57:34,960
Speaker 1: don't think he is anymore. I definitely see him as

2173
01:57:35,040 --> 01:57:37,840
Speaker 1: a part of this offense this year, just based on

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01:57:38,000 --> 01:57:40,840
Speaker 1: what he's done in camp. And it's so important for

2175
01:57:41,000 --> 01:57:44,560
Speaker 1: players like him to take advantage of the opportunities because

2176
01:57:44,600 --> 01:57:47,560
Speaker 1: he's someone who's been on and off several different rosters.

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Speaker 1: He came into the NFL at twenty in twenty fifteen,

2178
01:57:50,520 --> 01:57:54,480
Speaker 1: he was undrafted free agent out of White Wisconsin Whitewater,

2179
01:57:54,600 --> 01:57:58,120
Speaker 1: which was a Division three school, and so for him

2180
01:57:58,440 --> 01:58:02,040
Speaker 1: to stand out against some of the best players on

2181
01:58:02,200 --> 01:58:05,800
Speaker 1: this roster, I think you can definitely see how that

2182
01:58:05,960 --> 01:58:09,840
Speaker 1: translates into a role for him on this offense this

2183
01:58:10,040 --> 01:58:12,440
Speaker 1: season in a room that's going to be so tough

2184
01:58:12,560 --> 01:58:15,360
Speaker 1: to make. I mean, we have wide receivers of plenty,

2185
01:58:15,480 --> 01:58:20,000
Speaker 1: and he's definitely someone who's taken advantage of those opportunities

2186
01:58:20,040 --> 01:58:22,600
Speaker 1: when they've been thrown his way. A couple other players

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01:58:22,640 --> 01:58:25,680
Speaker 1: that I'll mention, Faobauda and Justin Zimmer those are two

2188
01:58:25,720 --> 01:58:28,280
Speaker 1: guys who have been on the field quite a bit

2189
01:58:28,520 --> 01:58:31,600
Speaker 1: and have had some nice plays throughout camp. Again, what

2190
01:58:31,800 --> 01:58:35,480
Speaker 1: can we really say judging the defensive line the offensive

2191
01:58:35,560 --> 01:58:39,840
Speaker 1: line without pads two days in pads, but Fas has

2192
01:58:39,920 --> 01:58:43,440
Speaker 1: had some would be sacks. I you know, I don't

2193
01:58:43,480 --> 01:58:47,160
Speaker 1: want to call them sacks because there's no statbook right

2194
01:58:47,240 --> 01:58:50,480
Speaker 1: now in camp, but he's looking like someone who's comfortable. Also,

2195
01:58:50,600 --> 01:58:52,840
Speaker 1: this is a new player. This is someone who is

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01:58:52,880 --> 01:58:56,160
Speaker 1: part of the International Pathway program and earn his way

2197
01:58:56,320 --> 01:58:59,600
Speaker 1: onto a roster at the Panthers. He had five sacks

2198
01:59:00,160 --> 01:59:03,640
Speaker 1: past season. Now comes to the Buffalo Bills and as

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01:59:03,720 --> 01:59:08,680
Speaker 1: someone who has not necessarily stood out, you know, the

2200
01:59:08,840 --> 01:59:11,000
Speaker 1: only player in the defensive line to stand out, but

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01:59:11,200 --> 01:59:14,000
Speaker 1: he's done some nice things. And Justin Zimmer is just

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01:59:14,200 --> 01:59:17,640
Speaker 1: that guy on the interior that won't go away. And

2203
01:59:17,760 --> 01:59:22,160
Speaker 1: I think the staff and this roster, these defensive linemen

2204
01:59:22,320 --> 01:59:25,520
Speaker 1: really like Justin Zimmer. He was someone who was important

2205
01:59:25,840 --> 01:59:29,640
Speaker 1: for this team last season. He forced the fumble against

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01:59:29,720 --> 01:59:32,640
Speaker 1: Cam Newton in the Patriots game towards the end of

2207
01:59:32,680 --> 01:59:35,640
Speaker 1: the game that was sealed the victory for the Buffalo Bills.

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01:59:35,720 --> 01:59:38,640
Speaker 1: And he's someone I'm glad to see him out there

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01:59:39,240 --> 01:59:41,800
Speaker 1: and having the type of role that he has had

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Speaker 1: in camp thus far. So those are three names that

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01:59:44,360 --> 01:59:46,120
Speaker 1: come to mind. What about you guys, Yeah, for me,

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01:59:46,280 --> 01:59:48,200
Speaker 1: I think it's fa Obada. I don't think a lot

2213
01:59:48,240 --> 01:59:51,680
Speaker 1: of people knew who he was coming up from Carolina.

2214
01:59:52,280 --> 01:59:56,800
Speaker 1: I think it's really clear this last offseason. Now the

2215
01:59:56,880 --> 01:59:58,960
Speaker 1: Bills have got their core, their ross. I think they

2216
01:59:59,000 --> 02:00:00,440
Speaker 1: feel like they got the most the core of the

2217
02:00:00,560 --> 02:00:02,520
Speaker 1: roster kind of where they want at least for the

2218
02:00:02,600 --> 02:00:05,480
Speaker 1: time being. And certainly all those guys have to compete

2219
02:00:05,520 --> 02:00:07,920
Speaker 1: and keep their job and continue to have a, you know,

2220
02:00:08,040 --> 02:00:10,400
Speaker 1: the mindset of getting better and better, so nobody can

2221
02:00:10,440 --> 02:00:12,080
Speaker 1: take their foot off the gas. But they feel like

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02:00:12,120 --> 02:00:15,200
Speaker 1: they've got that in place. Everybody they've added to the

2223
02:00:15,360 --> 02:00:18,360
Speaker 1: roster that they've retained from last year has had one

2224
02:00:18,400 --> 02:00:24,879
Speaker 1: thing in common elite traits. Spencer Brown, Greg Rousseau, Boogie Basham,

2225
02:00:25,680 --> 02:00:29,160
Speaker 1: all of those guys, Tommy Doyle and even the free agents,

2226
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Speaker 1: starting with fa Obada. Fa Obada is every bit the

2227
02:00:34,760 --> 02:00:37,720
Speaker 1: elite athlete these other guys are, and I think he's

2228
02:00:37,760 --> 02:00:41,960
Speaker 1: gonna They're gonna insert him in to try and really

2229
02:00:42,200 --> 02:00:44,920
Speaker 1: out physical A lot of people up front on the

2230
02:00:45,040 --> 02:00:47,680
Speaker 1: defensive line. With the guys they've got up front and

2231
02:00:47,840 --> 02:00:51,400
Speaker 1: the guys they brought in, they really have to feel

2232
02:00:52,200 --> 02:00:54,320
Speaker 1: like they can outrun and out physical people at the

2233
02:00:54,480 --> 02:00:56,760
Speaker 1: at the point of attack, both on the offensive line

2234
02:00:57,320 --> 02:01:00,560
Speaker 1: and the defensive line. So I think that's where Faobota

2235
02:01:00,640 --> 02:01:02,040
Speaker 1: comes in. And I think if people didn't know who

2236
02:01:02,080 --> 02:01:03,840
Speaker 1: he was, we've spoken about him on the show quite

2237
02:01:03,840 --> 02:01:06,320
Speaker 1: a bit, but I think that's a guy that people

2238
02:01:06,360 --> 02:01:08,560
Speaker 1: are gonna come to get to know pretty quickly. For me,

2239
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Speaker 1: very quickly, because we're out of time here. Joe Giles Harris,

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Speaker 1: the linebacker they picked up very quietly in the offseason.

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Speaker 1: I think he's going to be in the mix to

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02:01:16,920 --> 02:01:21,600
Speaker 1: be one of those primary backup linebackers behind Milano and Edmonds,

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02:01:22,760 --> 02:01:25,320
Speaker 1: not only because of what he's been able to demonstrate

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02:01:25,440 --> 02:01:27,920
Speaker 1: in the limited reps that he's had on defense, but

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Speaker 1: he's also got the potential to be a core special

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02:01:31,280 --> 02:01:34,400
Speaker 1: teams player, and I think that helps him immeasurably in

2247
02:01:34,600 --> 02:01:36,920
Speaker 1: terms of trying to make this fifty three man roster.

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02:01:37,080 --> 02:01:40,000
Speaker 1: So that's my guy as far as under the radar, Maddie,

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02:01:40,040 --> 02:01:41,480
Speaker 1: we're out of time. We wish we had more, but

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Speaker 1: good to be with you. Good to have you with us,

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Speaker 1: and we'll see you out there on the sidelines. Thanks

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02:01:45,920 --> 02:01:48,440
Speaker 1: mad girl. Sounds good. Do you guys tomorrow, same place,

2253
02:01:48,520 --> 02:01:52,360
Speaker 1: same time. That's Bills reporter Maddi Glab joining us here

2254
02:01:52,720 --> 02:01:55,800
Speaker 1: on One Bills Live, kind of recapping the first seven

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Speaker 1: days or so of practices. We take a break here

2256
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Speaker 1: when Steven I come back. A little NFL true false

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Speaker 1: coming your way here on One Bill's Live, presented by

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Speaker 1: Kalid to Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live. We mentioned you earlier in the show

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Speaker 1: how Matt Barkley has found at home. Signing with the

2261
02:02:24,920 --> 02:02:27,960
Speaker 1: Titans didn't take the Titans very long. They've now released

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02:02:28,040 --> 02:02:32,040
Speaker 1: quarterback to Sean Kaiser, so it's basically Barkley as the backup,

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Speaker 1: Logan Woodside as the three with Ryan Tannehill obviously as

2264
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Speaker 1: a starter now in Tennessee. It's a very good chance

2265
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Speaker 1: that we'll see Barkley on that roster come week. He's

2266
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Speaker 1: got going in come week, six guys in when the

2267
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Speaker 1: Bills travel in Nashville, So good for him. He'll be

2268
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Speaker 1: just like he'll be with Ryan Tannehill the way he

2269
02:02:51,360 --> 02:02:53,440
Speaker 1: was with Josh Allen. Here, there'll be best buds and

2270
02:02:53,560 --> 02:02:55,560
Speaker 1: he'll get him ready. He'll be a good voice on

2271
02:02:55,640 --> 02:02:58,320
Speaker 1: the sideline. He'll have a depth of knowledge about what's

2272
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Speaker 1: going on. He is, you know, given his skills, he's

2273
02:03:05,880 --> 02:03:08,560
Speaker 1: really good pro backup quarterback and he can start for

2274
02:03:08,720 --> 02:03:10,280
Speaker 1: you in a pinch, you can finish a game out,

2275
02:03:10,680 --> 02:03:13,440
Speaker 1: you can run the offense with him in there, and

2276
02:03:13,560 --> 02:03:15,720
Speaker 1: he does a lot of positives about Barkley. We he

2277
02:03:15,920 --> 02:03:18,000
Speaker 1: was a He was a really good addition to this

2278
02:03:18,240 --> 02:03:21,080
Speaker 1: roster last year, and I think one of the main

2279
02:03:21,160 --> 02:03:23,240
Speaker 1: reasons he's not here this year is just because they

2280
02:03:23,320 --> 02:03:25,000
Speaker 1: got a chance at a guy like Trabisky with a

2281
02:03:25,080 --> 02:03:28,480
Speaker 1: skill set that's, you know, off the charts compared to Bart.

2282
02:03:28,520 --> 02:03:30,320
Speaker 1: He's got a big arm, he's an athletes, he's like

2283
02:03:30,480 --> 02:03:34,360
Speaker 1: Josh a little bit. That's his kind of skill set

2284
02:03:34,880 --> 02:03:37,240
Speaker 1: and that you know, adds a little something to the

2285
02:03:37,320 --> 02:03:42,160
Speaker 1: mix for the Bills. We are going to dive into

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Speaker 1: NFL True False Now brought to you by Yancey's Fancy

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Speaker 1: New York's Artists in Cheese and Question number one Steve

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02:03:52,720 --> 02:03:58,840
Speaker 1: for the True False Ledger book. The Vikings have the

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Speaker 1: best defense in the NFL. True or false? Considering they

2290
02:04:05,440 --> 02:04:12,280
Speaker 1: were eighteenth last year, I'm going to say no. Yeah.

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02:04:12,440 --> 02:04:15,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I know they've made some editions there and

2292
02:04:16,040 --> 02:04:19,960
Speaker 1: they feel good about some of those. I don't know

2293
02:04:21,240 --> 02:04:24,000
Speaker 1: that I can vault them all the way to the top.

2294
02:04:24,280 --> 02:04:27,480
Speaker 1: They just cut Jeff Gladney, their former first round pick,

2295
02:04:27,560 --> 02:04:30,520
Speaker 1: who has been indicted on domestic violence charges, So we

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02:04:30,640 --> 02:04:35,560
Speaker 1: understand why that's a loss either way. I understand, you know,

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Speaker 1: you gotta do what you gotta do, and that's probably

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02:04:37,280 --> 02:04:43,240
Speaker 1: the right decision, But that's a loss. And then I

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Speaker 1: think they had some other player they lost to injury,

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Speaker 1: if memory serves here, and there was something else that

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Speaker 1: they did in free agency that I didn't wholeheartedly agree with.

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Speaker 1: I want to look up my files on the Vikings

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Speaker 1: really quick, just to make sure I'm thinking of the

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Speaker 1: right player departure and if my computer could be any

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Speaker 1: slower and make the show any more difficult. But no,

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02:05:08,120 --> 02:05:10,840
Speaker 1: I can't get to a place where I say they

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02:05:10,920 --> 02:05:13,040
Speaker 1: have the best defense in the NFL. They signed to

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02:05:13,040 --> 02:05:17,480
Speaker 1: Alvin Tomlinson, big Ad, Patrick Peterson passed his prime McKenzie

2309
02:05:17,520 --> 02:05:20,800
Speaker 1: Alexander another corner and Bashad Brelan. So I guess they're

2310
02:05:20,800 --> 02:05:22,880
Speaker 1: really not gonna miss gladdening in the grand scheme of things.

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02:05:24,600 --> 02:05:26,680
Speaker 1: So they made some additions on the defensive side of

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02:05:26,720 --> 02:05:29,080
Speaker 1: the ball, and they brought back Stephen Weatherley, who had

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02:05:29,120 --> 02:05:30,720
Speaker 1: been with them and then went to Carolina for a

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02:05:30,840 --> 02:05:35,040
Speaker 1: year and is now back. They've got guys. I don't

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02:05:35,040 --> 02:05:37,040
Speaker 1: think there's any question about that. I just don't know

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02:05:37,120 --> 02:05:39,080
Speaker 1: that they have enough. They're not gonna go from twenty

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Speaker 1: ninth in the league and points are allowed to number one. Yes,

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02:05:43,280 --> 02:05:45,120
Speaker 1: and they were playing in the NFC North. Let's not

2319
02:05:45,240 --> 02:05:48,520
Speaker 1: forget that. Like, okay, you gotta play the Packers twice

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02:05:48,520 --> 02:05:51,120
Speaker 1: a year, But beyond that, man, what are we doing?

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02:05:51,920 --> 02:05:55,400
Speaker 1: Like right, they gave up a ton of yards as well.

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02:05:55,800 --> 02:05:58,080
Speaker 1: They were like twenty seventh in the league and yards

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02:05:58,160 --> 02:06:01,040
Speaker 1: given up. They're not kind of doge go from that

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02:06:02,000 --> 02:06:04,920
Speaker 1: level to number one or have the best demon Plus

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Speaker 1: you're talking about teams like LA Baltimore, Pittsburgh, UH, Denver.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about some pretty good defenses that bucket the

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02:06:13,520 --> 02:06:18,000
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Um. Yeah, no, I no, that's a false

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02:06:18,760 --> 02:06:20,680
Speaker 1: they have do they do not have? They don't even

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02:06:20,760 --> 02:06:26,160
Speaker 1: have the most talented defense, let alone the best moving on, Uh,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go to NFL. True false. Number two. Brandon

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02:06:29,920 --> 02:06:32,880
Speaker 1: Staley is the most likely new head coach to make

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02:06:33,520 --> 02:06:40,160
Speaker 1: the playoffs. The new head coach for the LA Chargers. Um,

2333
02:06:40,600 --> 02:06:43,440
Speaker 1: I will say, let's it's let's just go over the list.

2334
02:06:43,560 --> 02:06:50,320
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer, Brandon Staley, Ron Rivera. Is he for no

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02:06:50,520 --> 02:06:54,280
Speaker 1: second year second? Nick sirian Nick Sirianni. That's it, Nick

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02:06:54,360 --> 02:06:57,520
Speaker 1: Sirianni and Matt matt Rue will be a second year a?

2337
02:06:57,720 --> 02:07:06,600
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell, Jan Campbell, Sla Robert Salah, David Culley. Okay, yes,

2338
02:07:06,680 --> 02:07:08,400
Speaker 1: there we go. I've got I was looking at the

2339
02:07:08,480 --> 02:07:10,480
Speaker 1: wrong ass I had with the wrong symbol on mine.

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02:07:10,600 --> 02:07:19,880
Speaker 1: Arthur Smithur Smith? Who do you like? I like urban

2341
02:07:19,960 --> 02:07:25,520
Speaker 1: Meyer before Brandon's dage. Really yeah, Wow, I gotta say it.

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02:07:25,920 --> 02:07:28,400
Speaker 1: So you're gonna say false and you're gonna go with

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02:07:28,520 --> 02:07:31,920
Speaker 1: urban Meyer. Wow. Nick Sirianni has got a chance too

2344
02:07:31,960 --> 02:07:34,360
Speaker 1: because of the division they play and being so pathetic.

2345
02:07:34,520 --> 02:07:38,200
Speaker 1: But that's exactly why I would pick urban Meyer as well. Um,

2346
02:07:38,760 --> 02:07:42,880
Speaker 1: they've got some I'm sure that urban Meyer has brought

2347
02:07:42,960 --> 02:07:45,400
Speaker 1: in some guys and has done his due diligence on

2348
02:07:45,520 --> 02:07:48,960
Speaker 1: what happens on game Danny NFL and how fast you've

2349
02:07:49,000 --> 02:07:53,200
Speaker 1: got to adjust your game plan and your philosophies on

2350
02:07:53,360 --> 02:07:57,000
Speaker 1: game day, you know, series to series. Yeah, so if

2351
02:07:57,040 --> 02:08:00,800
Speaker 1: he can get up to speed with that, Jacksonville's got

2352
02:08:00,840 --> 02:08:05,400
Speaker 1: some some defensive players, they got some talentum, and the

2353
02:08:05,680 --> 02:08:08,360
Speaker 1: division is gonna be I don't think I see the

2354
02:08:08,440 --> 02:08:11,280
Speaker 1: division as Indianapolis Colts and everybody else. Well, Indianapolis Colts

2355
02:08:11,360 --> 02:08:13,800
Speaker 1: just lost their quarterback for a for a period of time,

2356
02:08:13,840 --> 02:08:16,960
Speaker 1: and they're all pro guard for a period of time.

2357
02:08:17,440 --> 02:08:21,200
Speaker 1: Their defense will still be formidable. But Houston's not going

2358
02:08:21,280 --> 02:08:26,840
Speaker 1: to do anything. I don't have any faith in Tennessee

2359
02:08:27,720 --> 02:08:31,280
Speaker 1: continuing to do what they've done. They'll I think they're

2360
02:08:31,280 --> 02:08:34,120
Speaker 1: going to take a small step back as well. So

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02:08:34,280 --> 02:08:38,360
Speaker 1: that that gets you, That gets me to Urban. Okay,

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02:08:39,200 --> 02:08:40,840
Speaker 1: you're false. I like him as a coach, I like

2363
02:08:41,000 --> 02:08:42,680
Speaker 1: him as a leader, and I think those guys will

2364
02:08:42,760 --> 02:08:44,360
Speaker 1: rally around him. But it's a big step, no question.

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02:08:44,400 --> 02:08:46,800
Speaker 1: If you're gonna take you the most likely Yeah, I

2366
02:08:46,840 --> 02:08:49,840
Speaker 1: don't know. I think it's Jacksonville. I am going to

2367
02:08:49,920 --> 02:08:52,680
Speaker 1: say true that it is Brandon Staley because of the

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02:08:52,840 --> 02:08:58,839
Speaker 1: roster talent that he has. I mean, he's got arguably

2369
02:08:58,880 --> 02:09:03,720
Speaker 1: a top five quarterback in the AFC in Justin Herbert,

2370
02:09:04,000 --> 02:09:08,440
Speaker 1: who threw thirty one touchdowns as a rookie in fifteen games.

2371
02:09:10,720 --> 02:09:12,960
Speaker 1: There's just a bevyer talent on the offensive side of

2372
02:09:13,000 --> 02:09:16,200
Speaker 1: the ball. Joey Bosa is healthy, Derwin James is back

2373
02:09:16,600 --> 02:09:19,320
Speaker 1: in the secondary for them after missing all of last season.

2374
02:09:21,520 --> 02:09:25,000
Speaker 1: They're loaded now. They're not gonna win the division because

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02:09:25,040 --> 02:09:27,240
Speaker 1: they're in the same division as the Chiefs, but they're

2376
02:09:27,280 --> 02:09:30,080
Speaker 1: gonna be a wild card team, I think so. I

2377
02:09:30,920 --> 02:09:33,000
Speaker 1: think he does have the best chance to make the playoffs.

2378
02:09:33,040 --> 02:09:37,800
Speaker 1: So I will say true, that is a loaded team. Yeah,

2379
02:09:37,840 --> 02:09:40,720
Speaker 1: they've been bit by the injury bug the last several years,

2380
02:09:41,320 --> 02:09:44,120
Speaker 1: but I think there's enough talent there to make a

2381
02:09:44,200 --> 02:09:45,880
Speaker 1: run at that thing, especially with the kid they got

2382
02:09:45,960 --> 02:09:48,880
Speaker 1: a quarterback. So I will say the true the quarterbacks,

2383
02:09:48,920 --> 02:09:51,280
Speaker 1: the real deal, don't kid yourself, And he's gonna be

2384
02:09:51,440 --> 02:09:55,360
Speaker 1: He's really good and I think he's gonna get better.

2385
02:09:57,360 --> 02:10:00,600
Speaker 1: I don't think the team's gonna get better. Yeah, okay,

2386
02:10:00,800 --> 02:10:06,280
Speaker 1: fair enough, NFL true false. Number three Trey Lance should

2387
02:10:06,280 --> 02:10:10,560
Speaker 1: start over Jimmy Garoppolo to start the season tough one

2388
02:10:10,600 --> 02:10:18,120
Speaker 1: for me. Um, I don't, I haven't. Can we table this? Yeah?

2389
02:10:18,400 --> 02:10:21,840
Speaker 1: I want what I'm looking at in a preseason game

2390
02:10:21,960 --> 02:10:24,720
Speaker 1: with these guys. Yet, um, I know there were the

2391
02:10:24,840 --> 02:10:29,240
Speaker 1: early returns in practice have been glowing for Trey Lance.

2392
02:10:29,400 --> 02:10:36,280
Speaker 1: If that's the case, I say, yeah, Kyle Shanahan is

2393
02:10:36,360 --> 02:10:37,800
Speaker 1: up to you to get the most out of him.

2394
02:10:38,200 --> 02:10:40,040
Speaker 1: Give him stuff he can handle, give him stuff that

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02:10:40,040 --> 02:10:42,080
Speaker 1: will work, give him some answers that he knows where

2396
02:10:42,120 --> 02:10:45,360
Speaker 1: they are, and turn him loose. Start working on him.

2397
02:10:45,400 --> 02:10:48,600
Speaker 1: Because the Niners have proven they got a roster that

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02:10:48,680 --> 02:10:54,320
Speaker 1: can get there. Garoppolo can't be the difference maker, at

2399
02:10:54,400 --> 02:10:58,760
Speaker 1: least that's the word. And he's injury prone. So it

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02:10:58,960 --> 02:11:04,200
Speaker 1: might be Mark two to throw Garoppolo out there, counting

2401
02:11:04,240 --> 02:11:09,520
Speaker 1: on the fact that he's either gonna stink play actually no,

2402
02:11:09,720 --> 02:11:13,640
Speaker 1: not stink. He's gonna play well or get hurt. Either

2403
02:11:13,760 --> 02:11:16,680
Speaker 1: way you win there because if he gets hurt, then

2404
02:11:16,680 --> 02:11:18,120
Speaker 1: you can throw Trey Lands out there and say hey,

2405
02:11:18,240 --> 02:11:20,040
Speaker 1: and he doesn't matter how if Trey Lands plays. He

2406
02:11:20,080 --> 02:11:21,920
Speaker 1: wasn't ready, weren't gonna play him until for a while,

2407
02:11:21,960 --> 02:11:23,720
Speaker 1: but now he's in there. Because of Garoppolo got hurt.

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02:11:23,840 --> 02:11:27,760
Speaker 1: If Garoppolo plays well, nobody cares. Yeah, that's what I

2409
02:11:27,800 --> 02:11:30,240
Speaker 1: would do, I think Garoppolo. So I'm gonna say false.

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02:11:30,960 --> 02:11:33,240
Speaker 1: Garoppolo needs to start and he either needs to play

2411
02:11:33,280 --> 02:11:36,200
Speaker 1: well or get hurt. I'm gonna say false with the

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02:11:36,440 --> 02:11:41,240
Speaker 1: opportunity to change my answer after the preseason. So I

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02:11:41,840 --> 02:11:43,520
Speaker 1: just I just haven't seen it up. What are we

2414
02:11:43,520 --> 02:11:45,720
Speaker 1: gonna look at though? We're forgetting. We're thinking like this

2415
02:11:45,840 --> 02:11:48,520
Speaker 1: is gonna look like the playoff football coming out here tonight,

2416
02:11:48,640 --> 02:11:50,560
Speaker 1: starting in the Hall of Fame game. We're gonna get

2417
02:11:50,760 --> 02:11:55,880
Speaker 1: Charlie bag of donuts and and you know, Charlie bag

2418
02:11:55,960 --> 02:11:59,280
Speaker 1: of donuts and Billy bag of chips. Okay, and we're

2419
02:11:59,280 --> 02:12:06,680
Speaker 1: gonna who are these guys. It's gonna look I don't

2420
02:12:07,120 --> 02:12:09,960
Speaker 1: all right, horrible. I'm sure the NFL is thrilled with

2421
02:12:10,040 --> 02:12:12,320
Speaker 1: the way you have built this game. All right, We'll

2422
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Speaker 1: take a break, closing it up with what have we learned? Next?

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02:12:15,440 --> 02:12:33,440
Speaker 1: Here on One Bill's let What have we learned from

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Speaker 1: today's show? Brought to you by Skyworks, the official construction

2425
02:12:37,520 --> 02:12:42,560
Speaker 1: equipment rental company of the Buffalo Bills, And we learned

2426
02:12:42,600 --> 02:12:46,400
Speaker 1: that the defense is starting to search in training camp.

2427
02:12:46,440 --> 02:12:48,520
Speaker 1: They're making more plays on the ball. I think they're

2428
02:12:48,560 --> 02:12:52,120
Speaker 1: getting a better handle on this offense, and I think

2429
02:12:52,280 --> 02:12:58,040
Speaker 1: guys are maybe taking a little bit more risk in practice.

2430
02:12:58,080 --> 02:12:59,960
Speaker 1: We I mean, we had three interceptions today, I think

2431
02:13:00,120 --> 02:13:04,760
Speaker 1: a couple of fumble recoveries. So they got the officials

2432
02:13:04,800 --> 02:13:07,360
Speaker 1: out there today calling some penalties, a couple of past

2433
02:13:07,400 --> 02:13:09,760
Speaker 1: interference penalties. The defense really stepped it up when the

2434
02:13:09,840 --> 02:13:14,960
Speaker 1: pads went on, as you might imagine. Um, Still, it's

2435
02:13:15,000 --> 02:13:16,560
Speaker 1: gonna be hard to get a handle on what it

2436
02:13:16,600 --> 02:13:18,320
Speaker 1: actually looks like because even the view that we have

2437
02:13:18,520 --> 02:13:20,560
Speaker 1: during practice and everything's control and all that. I'll be

2438
02:13:20,680 --> 02:13:23,080
Speaker 1: interested to see them play a week from tomorrow night

2439
02:13:23,160 --> 02:13:27,879
Speaker 1: in Detroit against that team. Some other news, former Seahawks

2440
02:13:28,040 --> 02:13:30,640
Speaker 1: veteran linebacker kJ Wright is in Las Vegas to meet

2441
02:13:30,680 --> 02:13:34,760
Speaker 1: with the Raiders. Apparently, well, he has some familiarity with

2442
02:13:34,800 --> 02:13:38,120
Speaker 1: the scheme there because the defensive coordinator is Gus Bradley.

2443
02:13:38,800 --> 02:13:43,880
Speaker 1: Um so, has anybody else retired from the Raiders this week?

2444
02:13:45,080 --> 02:13:47,840
Speaker 1: Not yet, No, there's been a couple. There's been a

2445
02:13:48,000 --> 02:13:51,880
Speaker 1: handful and executives as well. Yes, mostly executives actually, and

2446
02:13:52,560 --> 02:13:55,800
Speaker 1: one of the Rats leaving a sinking ship. It really

2447
02:13:55,920 --> 02:13:58,520
Speaker 1: is what the hecks going on? What's going on out there?

2448
02:13:58,720 --> 02:14:04,800
Speaker 1: We got Taskers teammate tomorrow and Jordan Palmer, Josh Allen's

2449
02:14:05,120 --> 02:14:08,440
Speaker 1: QB offseason coach. He'll be on the show tomorrow, don't

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02:14:08,480 --> 02:14:09,680
Speaker 1: miss it. We'll see you then