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Speaker 1: And Dan and Tie welcome back to the solid verbal

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Speaker 1: Yeah, idiot, Well, welcome back in, Welcome one, Welcome all

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Speaker 3: at least shown himself to be at times or for

433
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Speaker 3: a lot of the time, you got to throw some

434
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Speaker 3: of that conventional wisdom out the window and zag a bit.

435
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 3: I get you, I'm I'm I'm with you, know, throwing

436
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,159
Speaker 3: out that that line of thinking when you have a

437
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 3: one man wrecking crow at quarterback. I get it.

438
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Speaker 1: You're really putting a bit of a a bit of

439
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: a cramp in my style here because it's got to

440
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: be two wins and it can't be one and a

441
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 1: half one and a half. I know, you know that.

442
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 1: That's what makes it difficult, because there are a bunch

443
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Speaker 1: of teams here, and I'd be happy to go through

444
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: them at some point and rifle through all my over underpicks.

445
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll do that towards the latter part of this show.

446
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 3: We're not we're not shy zag types. Is you're gonna zag,

447
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 3: You're gonna zag.

448
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,360
Speaker 1: No, this is a true zag. How about Army over eight?

449
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 3: Who do they have on there? Like, I don't have

450
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 3: every schedule in front of me, but I feel good

451
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 3: about Army. I feel really good about Army.

452
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: Armies on the road at Coastal Carolina. They've also got UTSA,

453
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 1: They've got a game at Wake after that. I think

454
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 1: they're in pretty good shape. They do have air Force,

455
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: air Force that think's going to be pretty good this year.

456
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 1: But there are a whole lot of tours on this

457
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 1: schedule that really frightened me. And I'll just go back

458
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Speaker 1: to what I said during the previews. It's not hard

459
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Speaker 1: for me to squint and find a world in which

460
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Speaker 1: Army is in eleven game this season.

461
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Speaker 3: I think you're totally right. I like that pick a lot.

462
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like Army a great deal here over unders

463
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Speaker 1: eight eight and a half. Again, these things vary depends

464
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: when you look and where you look. But just knowing

465
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 1: the style of offense that they're running, even that Weake game,

466
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: you know, mm hmm, they can be Wake with the

467
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,120
Speaker 1: way that played defense last year without knowing where Sam

468
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 1: Hartman is going to be in early October, they could

469
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: be Wake.

470
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, counterpoint. The way Wake played offense against Army was

471
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Speaker 3: also true as it was. It was just exercising. That's

472
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Speaker 3: what it was against this Army defense through the air.

473
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 3: That's the concern is Army was pretty good upfront stopping

474
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 3: the run last year, but they could not get off

475
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Speaker 3: the field. They gave up a ton of big plays

476
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 3: through the air. When you are have that, that lack

477
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 3: of an ability to stop teams consistently and get off

478
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 3: the field, you just lose games plural with the defense

479
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 3: like that. Okay, the teams I have over I have

480
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 3: LSU Utah and the big zag here.

481
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 1: West Virginia over on West Virginia. Yes, I thought you

482
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: hated West Virginia.

483
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 3: I don't hate West Virginia. I think West. I want

484
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 3: them to be more explosive. I did not like Jarrett Dagy.

485
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 3: I did not like the offense that they ran. They

486
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 3: made changes. If God, I hate that. We've been saying

487
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 3: this phrase two dayiels good, stay healthy. We've been saying

488
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 3: that phrase since nineteen ninety nine. Yeah, he is an

489
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,959
Speaker 3: upgrade at at a healthy level by a considerable margin.

490
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 3: At quarterback, the receivers will get better. I think their

491
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 3: offensive line has to get better. They gave up a

492
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 3: ton of sacks last year. The receivers off too many

493
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 3: balls last year. You would have to buy pretty low

494
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 3: on West Virginia. I think their defense will be fine,

495
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 3: replacing a bunch of key players. But still, if they

496
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 3: have a quarterback advantage, if, if, if, if, if this

497
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 3: is the zag. If they have a quarterback advantage in

498
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 3: most of their games, they can win a lot of

499
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 3: those games. It's a tough place to win. It's a

500
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 3: tough place to play. I mean to go to Morgantown

501
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 3: and beat West Virginia, so I know they have they

502
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 3: have what the backyard brawl and Virginia Tech early on

503
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 3: in their schedule is a tough, really tough schedule. Yeah,

504
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 3: But at JT. Daniels his best, I don't know. He

505
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 3: just feels like an eight nine win quarterback if he's

506
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 3: surrounded by at least competent skill players and an okay

507
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 3: offensive line.

508
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you another over that I like a lot.

509
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Speaker 1: And I don't you know what, Dan, this is a

510
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: dumb game. I don't know if I can do this

511
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 1: again with the two over. I'm not a big zagger,

512
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: you know me, I know I play it pretty close

513
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 1: to the vest I like UCF this year. Ucfs over

514
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: under is eight and a half. I feel like they

515
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 1: had to deal with a lot last year when Dylan

516
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 1: Gabriel went down. They turned the quarterback position over to

517
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: a guy who was relatively green. The schedule this season

518
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: definitely has spots that you look at and say, Okay,

519
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 1: A Louisville game early could be interesting. SMU it's at home,

520
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 1: but first week of October could be interesting. Cincinnati, that

521
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: game's also at home. As you get to Halloween weekend,

522
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: there are't a whole lot of road games on here

523
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,239
Speaker 1: that frighten me. And I feel like UCF's only going

524
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: to get better this season. So the over unders eight

525
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 1: and a half. I guess by the logic of this game.

526
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're getting to eleven wins, but

527
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: could they get to ten. Yeah, I can definitely see ten.

528
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 3: I have Utah at nine, so that would mean getting

529
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 3: to eleven for Utah, which I think is plausible. I

530
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 3: think right now they likely have the best quarterback the conference.

531
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Speaker 1: I've seen it at eight and eight and a half.

532
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 1: I have not seen nine, but I do subscribe to

533
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 1: the same train of thought.

534
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 3: I know they host USC, and they travel to Oregon,

535
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 3: and they travel to Florida right to begin the season,

536
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 3: so there's difficulties in there, so I get why that

537
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 3: number exists, but I still think they're gonna be good

538
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 3: or it's really really good. So in LSU that it's

539
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 3: just a by low thing because if it is Garrett

540
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 3: as Meyer, who we haven't really scratched the surface of

541
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 3: what he can be, just because we haven't seen all

542
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 3: that much of him. We kind of know what Jaden

543
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 3: Daniels is, But if it's Garrett as Meyer, and if

544
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 3: Garrett as Meyer is a B plus quarterback with what

545
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 3: he's surrounded by, with the improvement we've seen upfront on offense,

546
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 3: with the options that they have on defense, the transfers

547
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 3: they brought in in secondary. I know it's a tough schedule.

548
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 3: It absolutely is a tough schedule, but I think there

549
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 3: is value in buying a little bit low on LSU

550
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 3: at this point.

551
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: Damn play the sound again. Let's move to the next question.

552
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 2: I just think you have as wrong. Then the opposite

553
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 2: would have to be.

554
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: Right, true, where are we going next?

555
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 3: Okay, give me a team or two outside the current

556
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 3: AP top twenty five that you could see you can

557
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 3: find a pathway to them finishing in the top ten,

558
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 3: in the top ten, yeah, top ten. Yeah, you want

559
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 3: me to give you a couple inside the top ten.

560
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 3: I could definitely see a pathway for Tennessee. Spicy, I

561
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 3: could see a pathway for Tennessee. Tennessee currently leads the

562
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 3: way in the others receiving votes category.

563
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: Eighty. They are just a nose in front of Texas

564
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: and Iowa and Penn State among the teams that are

565
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: not in the top twenty five at all. But Tennessee

566
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: with its offense, you know again, go back listen to

567
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: the SEC East preview. I think the offense provided they

568
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: can keep Hendon Hooker upright and provided they can figure

569
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: out solutions along the defensive line. Yeah, tough schedule, as

570
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: all the schedules are in the SEC. But Tennessee I

571
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: think should be pretty good and I could definitely see

572
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: a pathway for them to work their way up. That's

573
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: one to me. You know, it's almost old hat at

574
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: this point to say Iowa. But Iowa's gonna be Iowa

575
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:23,479
Speaker 1: again this season.

576
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,479
Speaker 3: It's a tough schedule, though, it's a tougher schedule than

577
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 3: where they were last year.

578
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: But if you told me right now, Iowa's going to

579
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: run the ball, They're gonna grind it out, they're gonna

580
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: play defense, and they're gonna beat teams twenty four to

581
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: nineteen week in and week out, and they're gonna do

582
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: that successfully and find a way to win ten games.

583
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 3: Mhm.

584
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: That's their mo That's what Iowa football is, right Yeah.

585
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: Could that get them in the top ten, Absolutely it could,

586
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: So Iowa's one. I'm high on Penn State. You know,

587
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: I think my bias is showing a little bit. Yeah,

588
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: I'm high on Penn State right now. I have a

589
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: lot of faith in the line in a way that

590
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,959
Speaker 1: I haven't felt in quite some time. Defense. You know,

591
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: we'll get back to you on defense the.

592
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 3: Peak August time.

593
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: I know they lose a lot on defense, and obviously

594
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: they're starting over a bit with their coordinator spot there

595
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: with Manny Diaz. But I'm high on Penn State. I'm

596
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: curious to get your thoughts on k State because.

597
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 3: Go outside of the top twenty five.

598
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: Moment, outside the top twenty five at the moment.

599
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 3: I can't depend on If you're talking quarterback in defense,

600
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 3: I can't depend on Adrian Martinez. You're talking a top

601
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 3: ten team? Is nine wins? Yeah, ish, somewhere in that range.

602
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 3: I don't know. I really like k State a lot,

603
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 3: and I can see why they have a lot of upside.

604
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 3: That's that's tough for me. Anybody else.

605
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody else here really jumps out to me.

606
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 3: I mentioned LSU having a path because of talent level

607
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 3: and transfers. My other one is Presno a top ten team? Yes,

608
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 3: now they have the opportunity unity believe Frett Does Fresno

609
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 3: have USC early? Believe they do?

610
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Fresno here as they pull up their schedule, has

611
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: USC on the road week three?

612
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 3: Yes? Okay, so short of the USC game, if we

613
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 3: call the USC game a loss, they're good enough to

614
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 3: beat Oregon State at home? Yes? Would you agree? They

615
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 3: have the I think they have the best quarterback in

616
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 3: the Mountain West and that has to count for something

617
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 3: in Jake Hayner. Is there another quarterback that I'm missing

618
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 3: that you would take throwing the ball downfield over Jake Hayner?

619
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 3: Now reunited with Jeff Dedford.

620
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: Probably not.

621
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 3: No, at POIS will be tough at POIS, will definitely

622
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 3: be tough at New Mexico. At UNLV, they don't have

623
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 3: to go to the Dragon tie, they don't have to

624
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 3: go to snap Dragon Stadium. They diego State.

625
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: Fear the Dragon. Yeah.

626
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 3: At a retooling Nevada team under Ken Wilson, they don't

627
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 3: have a long, weird trip to Hawaii. Hawaii comes to them.

628
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 3: I don't know, Ty, you get past Oregon State, you're

629
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 3: flirting double ditch and Fresno State. If this is a

630
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 3: weird year in terms of G five teams not standing out.

631
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 3: If Houston loses something dumb, UCF loses something dumb, Cincinnati

632
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 3: isn't quite the same, Fresno just creeping along quietly. Wait,

633
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 3: Fresno State's number nine in the country. Okay, I don't

634
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 3: fully believe it. Let's be clear, Yeah, that the San

635
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 3: Joaquin Valley Spice would be Jake Hayner and the Fresno

636
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 3: State bol.

637
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting too, to go back to the previous question,

638
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,959
Speaker 1: Fresno is over under eight and a half. Yeah, the

639
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: way you describe it feels pretty much like a slam dunk.

640
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: They're hitting the over, maybe not getting to eleven, but

641
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: could they go over eight and a half?

642
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, So, I mean that's the plausible outside of

643
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 3: the top twenty five for me. Now, is there a

644
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 3: team currently inside the top ten that you could see

645
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 3: the sands of time washing away? Oh? In the top

646
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 3: ten and fully out of the rankings? Who is that?

647
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 2: Uh?

648
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: The first is Notre Dame. Yeah, the first is Notre Dame.

649
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Speaker 1: Notre Dame in the first. Again, for whatever this is worth.

650
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Speaker 1: In the first preseason poll, Notre Dame's fifth. Fifth. Who's

651
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: voting on this stuff? I'm a Notre Dame fan. You

652
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: know this. Everybody who listens to this knows this. I'm

653
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: a Notre Dame fan. I want them to be fifth. Fifth.

654
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me with this fifth? I don't think so.

655
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: There's plenty of AMMO on this schedule. I talked about

656
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: it when I did the preview. Notre Dame could go

657
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 1: eleven and one and make the playoff with this schedule.

658
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: It's that tough. It's a really solid schedule top to bottom.

659
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: Not a whole lot of murderers, slash wounders. Rose. There's

660
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: not like a string of games where you look at

661
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: it and say, man, they're going to be tested throughout

662
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: the month. It's spaced out about as well as it

663
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: could be given the teams that are on the schedule,

664
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Speaker 1: but with so many questions, especially on offense, they could

665
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: lose a couple of games here. They could lose a

666
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: couple of games here, and it especially with a new coach. Now, right,

667
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: that's the other variable that we need to consider. They're

668
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 1: figuring things out across the board here. There's a lot

669
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: of uncertainty with Notre Dame. So again not saying I

670
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Speaker 1: fully believe it. I still think this will be one

671
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: of the better teams in the country. I think they're

672
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: a top fifteen team, but top five right now, that's

673
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: a bridge too far. The other one for me is Baylor.

674
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 1: I happen to like what David Randa has done. I

675
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: like Baylor generally speaking, directionally where the program is headed.

676
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: Baylor's over under a seven and a half, and I

677
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 1: think that's with good reason. They lose a fair amount

678
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Speaker 1: on offense. Now. I know they're turning it over to

679
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: Blake shape, and I do think he gives them a

680
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: higher ceiling from the quarterback position, but so much production

681
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: gone at running back questions out wide.

682
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Speaker 3: I don't care about that though, come on, do you

683
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 3: really care about that? About what replacing running backs and receivers?

684
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 1: Yeah? I do.

685
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 3: I don't know. I feel like if you're going to

686
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,919
Speaker 3: replace anything, replace the running back, I generally don't think

687
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 3: there's a ton of falloff. If you've got a, you know,

688
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 3: an above replacement level guy to come in, I think

689
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 3: you're fine.

690
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Speaker 1: Well, so here's part of the problem with this question. Though.

691
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Speaker 1: You've got the top ten in front of you. I'm

692
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: not picking Alabama, Ohio State, or Georgia. Okay, Clemson, say

693
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Speaker 1: what you want about Clemson. Clemson's not falling out of

694
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Speaker 1: the top twenty five. The schedule is not going to

695
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: be strong enough for them to lose that many games.

696
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: Texas A and M. Okay, you could maybe make a

697
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: case for Texas A and M. I'm not making that case.

698
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Speaker 3: I don't think the case is that easy.

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Speaker 1: But continue, Yeah, it's a tough schedule. Utah I think

700
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Speaker 1: is going to be pretty good. I'm all in on Utah.

701
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: Michigan's not dropping out of the top ten for a while.

702
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Speaker 1: I don't think I could see them dropping down to

703
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: the top fifteen, but they're going to be pretty comfortably

704
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Speaker 1: in that territory. The only other two options here are

705
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Speaker 1: Oklahoma and Bailor. Now, are you going to make the

706
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 1: case for Oklahoma? Sure? Okay, what's the case for Oklahoma

707
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Speaker 1: if you're not picking Notre Dame er Baylor.

708
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Speaker 3: So I think Oklahoma, if we're living in a non

709
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Speaker 3: zag universe, is a top fifteen, top twenty type program

710
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 3: with a lot of upside and a lot of optimism

711
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 3: looking in the next two three years. The problem this

712
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 3: year is Dylan Gabriel coming off an injury. I'm positive

713
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 3: he's one hundred percent and will be healthy, but he's

714
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 3: not a huge guy. He can take hits and leave games.

715
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 3: That is worrisome to me. The offensive line taking a

716
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 3: step back last year is worrisome to me. I think

717
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 3: they're gonna be pretty good at receiver, But again, it's

718
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 3: are you with the Owe's believer? Are you Marvin Mims

719
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 3: believer in terms of huge All American type star power,

720
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Speaker 3: because I still think that's going to be needed with

721
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Speaker 3: a defense that will probably take some lumps. I think

722
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Speaker 3: they're going to be better coach this year. I think

723
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Speaker 3: they're gonna better put in a better position this year.

724
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Speaker 3: But I also think this is something Bill Connolly talked

725
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 3: about in the spring or early summer, is the depth

726
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 3: of comp evidence in the Big Twelve is pretty impressive.

727
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 3: So I don't really see Oklahoma going seven and five,

728
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 3: But I think they could, you know, lose four games

729
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 3: by combined ten points and look like a good team

730
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 3: and somehow find themselves on the outside looking in after

731
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 3: bowl season. Sure, I think they're much closer to an

732
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 3: eight and four nine and three team. I don't know

733
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 3: if they're fully top ten caliber, but yeah, I could

734
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 3: see weird happenstance thin at quarterback, if Dylan Gabriel misses time. Yeah, yeah,

735
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Speaker 3: That's where I'm a little bit concerned with Oklahoma. Annoying.

736
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Speaker 1: Boy, did the people out on YouTube not like, oh.

737
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they's not like our Oklahoma. They're like mabe anyway.

738
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Speaker 1: I don't know some of the Oklahoma vibe that we

739
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 1: were throwing that way. But look, it's not all puppy

740
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: dogs and ice cream all the time.

741
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Speaker 3: It's ty. It's been a year in Sooner Country.

742
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: It's been a year.

743
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 3: You've gotta cut them a little bit of slack.

744
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Speaker 1: I know, I know they're not quite to Michigan levels

745
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: of sensitivity yet, but we'll see how it goes. Yes

746
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: this season, any others here inside the top ten that

747
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 1: you can see outside of the top twenty five outside

748
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Speaker 1: of maybe Notre Dame, And I guess you're not on

749
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Speaker 1: the bailor train like I am.

750
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 2: Now.

751
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 3: Clemson at least has an answer if dju is not

752
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 3: the guy guy, you know the club level to turn

753
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Speaker 3: to him. And I think the defense is just too

754
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 3: insane to think that they're gonna fall out of the

755
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 3: top twenty five. They're just gonna win too many games

756
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 3: with that kind of defense. Yeah, Notre Dame, I suppose

757
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 3: is interesting. They were I kind of forgot about this.

758
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 3: Notre Dame was one of the worst rushing teams in

759
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 3: the country last year. They got better near the end

760
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 3: of the season, but they started out the year pretty abysmally.

761
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 3: They did in the ground they did, which you can

762
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 3: kind of weather when you have Ian Book or Jack

763
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 3: Cone with some experience. Tyler Buckner has a lot more

764
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 3: upside than I think Jack Cone did or does whatever

765
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Speaker 3: do we know that though, well, just because of his

766
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 3: running ability, his rushing ability, he has more upside as a.

767
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Speaker 1: Playmaker yeah, I think that's fair.

768
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Speaker 3: But as a he's a red shirt freshman or whatever

769
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 3: they considered it. Notre Dame, he's a second year guy.

770
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Speaker 1: We did not get m to work with with Tyler

771
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Speaker 1: Buckter in his in his limited time true last season.

772
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Speaker 3: So what I'm saying is, if Notre Dame isn't dramatically

773
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Speaker 3: better running the ball, and he's asked to shoulder more

774
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 3: of the load as do everything.

775
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Speaker 1: That bothers me, right, that does me because I worry

776
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: that they can't keep him healthy, right, and if they

777
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: can't keep them healthy, then it's Drew Pine time. Excuse me.

778
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: I can't even split it out, and I'm not excited

779
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: about that at all. So a Derby, Yeah, yeah, all right,

780
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Speaker 1: play this sound again. Please.

781
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Speaker 2: If every instinct you have is wrong, then the opposite

782
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 2: would have to be right.

783
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Speaker 1: Next question, where we going right?

784
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 3: The coach out of nowhere, leaving the school by his

785
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 3: own choice in the way that we saw this past

786
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 3: year with Brian Kelly. With this is to a lesser extent,

787
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 3: I would say Mario Cristabal that was not out of

788
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 3: nowhere because of his history with Miami, but leaving a

789
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 3: successful program for sure. In what Mario Cristabal did so,

790
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 3: leaving a successful program, a guy who you're like, why

791
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 3: would he leave? Why would He's got it good? Why

792
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 3: would it doesn't make sense why he would leave. I

793
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 3: have a couple here, and I think it would be

794
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 3: due to continued success, but somewhat unexpected. I have Dave

795
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 3: Randa at Baylor, who didn't leave last year because it

796
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 3: felt very early on in his tenure. But if Baylor

797
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 3: is once again very good and say this is not unusual,

798
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 3: the NFL comes knocking the way that they did for

799
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 3: the guy that preceded him and Matt Ruhle Dave Randa

800
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 3: were like, he does.

801
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,439
Speaker 1: He seem like he's not going to leave, though, because

802
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: I feel like there's a lot of steam on Randa,

803
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: and he was a name that came up. Well, there's

804
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: alongside USC, alongside Oregon, some of those other jobs that

805
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: were out there. Lsu.

806
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 3: I hear what you're saying. It seems like there was

807
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 3: steam on him, but I don't know if it was

808
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 3: internal external, Like there are some guys where are like, well,

809
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 3: he's willing to listen and it's like an agent, you know,

810
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 3: maneuvering and you know there's it didn't seem like there

811
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 3: were stories about Randa considering or Randa doing an interview

812
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 3: or advanced conversations with David, Like it just always seemed

813
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,280
Speaker 3: like it was, you know, Brett McMurphy or Joel Klatt

814
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 3: or Bruce Feldman saying like they're interested in him, but

815
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 3: it never really going down any sort of serious path.

816
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 3: So I get that that at least that there there

817
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 3: has been external appeal for Dave Randa. The other one

818
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:26,760
Speaker 3: I have here is Dave Dorian.

819
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, the.

820
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 3: Other one I have here is Dave Dorian just because, Okay,

821
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 3: at least in my eyes, it seems like he's got

822
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 3: it good. He's got this team that's winning a ton

823
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 3: of games. They had the bounce back situation from a

824
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 3: couple of years ago where they were really down, and

825
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 3: you know, there was I think conversation around him with

826
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 3: Tennessee a couple of years ago, and I don't hear

827
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 3: his name as much, but suddenly like UCLA hired Dave Doran,

828
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 3: Like wow, where did Like it's just an announcement out

829
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 3: of no in the way, Like if you remember, like

830
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 3: Nebraska hired Mike Riley, what that out of nowhere? That

831
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 3: if NC State has another really good year and he

832
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 3: feels like this is his time to cash in on

833
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 3: something and go, you know, make four hundred million dollars

834
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 3: at a big ten school. Sure. Okay, By the way,

835
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 3: Dave dorn to UCLA is especially funny given the circumstances

836
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 3: of bull season last year. I understand that what.

837
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 1: About Mike Gundy.

838
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 3: Mike Gundy wouldn't be out of nowhere because of his

839
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 3: past flirtations.

840
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: Okay. Also Tennessee Conversation Tennessee Conversation. In addition to Gundy,

841
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: I have a couple other names and jotted down. This

842
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: is a tough question. I feel like we saw an

843
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: exaggerated number of guys who fit this exact category leave

844
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 1: last see Lincoln Riley, Brian Kelly.

845
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 3: So the names who would be fully out of nowhere

846
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 3: for us to decide on that would be on that

847
00:43:55,680 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 3: level would be Nick Saban, Devil Sweeney, Ryan Day, Kirby Smart.

848
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: Hmm.

849
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 3: I guess it's never out of nowhere for Brian Kelly

850
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 3: to leave. Some for Brian Kelly's just going on tour. Yeah,

851
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 3: any of the first year guys obviously like look, I

852
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 3: am fully aware as an Oregon fan that if a

853
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 3: huge job opens up, Dan Lanning will if he has

854
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 3: a good first year and the huge job is in

855
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 3: the South, in the way that Willie Taggart had that

856
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 3: huge job open up, Oh yeah, that he will be

857
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 3: in the mix. I'm just not there yet with Dan Lanning.

858
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 3: I need to say a little bit more than.

859
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, the first year guys would definitely come as a surprise,

860
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: you know. I mean part of this is a bit

861
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: of a thought experiment, trying to envision a situation in

862
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: which maybe somebody would decide to leave Pat Fitzgerald. Leaving

863
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: Northwestern for another job would be kind of interesting. I

864
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: don't know what kind of value is on Pat Fitzgerald

865
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: as a coach of a different program at this point.

866
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: I feel like the last five years in particular, have

867
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 1: depressed whatever kind of market value you was out there

868
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: for Fits prior to this latest stint, especially last season

869
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: where the defense just bottomed out. That was kind of

870
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: what was keeping this whole thing afloat. But Fits has

871
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 1: long been sought after. He's definitely been the kind of

872
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: guy whose name comes up in conversations not just with

873
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: you know, other college openings, but perhaps the NFL that

874
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,919
Speaker 1: to me is very very far flung as a possibility,

875
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: but in terms of something out of nowhere, that would

876
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 1: definitely be out of nowhere.

877
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,720
Speaker 3: The only, the only, I can only see one school,

878
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 3: Stanford for fits, No, for fits, you think you would

879
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 3: live for.

880
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: Stanford, Stanford, I don't know. Notre Dame.

881
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 3: No, Notre Dame.

882
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kyle Whittingham.

883
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 3: Is an interesting I think, but I think it was

884
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 3: I think it'd be retirement.

885
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I don't know if it would

886
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: necessarily be to go to us CLA or us C, well,

887
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: hopefully not USC at this point, as like a defensive coordinator,

888
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: but it would likely be a retirement. So Whittingham's a name.

889
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: I threw Matt Campbell in here, if only because I

890
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 1: feel like we've been waiting for Matt Campbell to leave

891
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: for a long time and he hasn't yet. So at

892
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: the point he finally decides to go elsewhere, it will

893
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: feel like a bit of a surprise.

894
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 3: I guess, just but for the examples that we used,

895
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 3: for the examples that we use with Notre Dame and

896
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 3: Oregon and LSU, and it.

897
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 1: Doesn't rise to that level, not at all, right, not

898
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: at all.

899
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 3: That's that like you just assume, and it's been a

900
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 3: surprise that he hasn't, and it's been an awesome story

901
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 3: that he hasn't. But you just assume that somebody's gonna

902
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,720
Speaker 3: come and make him an offer that he can't refuse.

903
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: All right, play the sound next question.

904
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 2: If every instinct you have is wrong, then the opposite

905
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 2: would have to be right.

906
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: It would have to be right, Dan, where are we

907
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 1: going next?

908
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 3: This one is so obvious to me, the out of

909
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 3: nowhere firings. Okay, I think it's the two big Texas schools.

910
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 3: I think it's A and M in Texas, the fully

911
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 3: out of No, I'm not. Don't use reason in logic

912
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 3: for that.

913
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: No, No, I yeah, sure, because reason.

914
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 3: In logic do not have a place with too much

915
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 3: money to thrown around, which is what the decision makers

916
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 3: at A and M and Texas have too much money.

917
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 3: So Jimbo Fisher, this will be his might doing my

918
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 3: math right fifth season at A and M.

919
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: I believe so.

920
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 3: Has he started a full on good quarterback at Texas?

921
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 3: A and M. The quarterback guru.

922
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 1: Kellen Mand's been above average.

923
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm saying good quarterback. No, he developed and won

924
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:32,240
Speaker 3: a national championship with a Heisman caliber quarterback. Nothing approaching

925
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 3: that last year was obviously injury, which was the setback

926
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 3: at the position. So you have five years of not

927
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 3: figuring out a good quarterback and then you add in

928
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 3: the number one recruiting class of all time. Again, reason

929
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 3: in logic say Jimbo Fisher is not being fired, but

930
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 3: that's not always what's appropriate to use when talking about

931
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 3: Texas A and M football. So that's out of nowhere,

932
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 3: and then Sark is less out of nowhere. Obviously when

933
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 3: you go when they go five and seven last year,

934
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 3: when you don't make a bowl game and you have

935
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 3: the type of talent that's on Texas's roster, and then

936
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 3: what they have this year if they again disappoint, I

937
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 3: could see it. It's going to cost Texts a lot

938
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 3: of money, but I could see it as they, you know,

939
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 3: head into the SEC. They want to head into the

940
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 3: SEC with more momentum if they're a bowl ish program.

941
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 3: Once again it's six and six, seven and five program,

942
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 3: and they just say to themselves, we don't see a

943
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 3: path for Sark to go ten and two in the SEC. Wow,

944
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 3: let's make a change sooner rather than later.

945
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: Jimbo just signed a extension last year he did he

946
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: did ninety five million over ten years. It runs through

947
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 1: the twenty thirty one season. He would be owed to

948
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: mint for sure and buy it.

949
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 3: Totally reason and logic. Yeah, not always appropriate. And also

950
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 3: with the new tactic from schools of keeping notes on

951
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 3: anything they might be able to use against their coach,

952
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 3: their own coach down the line to avoid paying buyouts.

953
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not implying anything about textas a and

954
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,720
Speaker 3: m I'm just saying everybody's doing it. Yeah, about keeping

955
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 3: tabs on what they could Well, well, we had this,

956
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 3: you know, level forty four violation.

957
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: Well so, I mean to that point, Brian Harson probably

958
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: doesn't count in this category, right, they almost out, but

959
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: he's out of somewhere. But but he would kind of

960
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: go in that category of oh, they're keeping notes on him,

961
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: they're looking over his shoulder, they're trying to see what

962
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: they can use against him.

963
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

964
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: Another one that would not be out of nowhere, but

965
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: I think it it could sort of rise to this

966
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: level is Mike Norvel. And here's why. Obviously, the first

967
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: two years under Norvel at Florida State have left a

968
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 1: lot to be desired. I could see a scenario in

969
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: which this is a much better Florida State team. Let's

970
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 1: say they win eight games, Let's say it feels like

971
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: they've got their act together, and then after the season,

972
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: either there's a transfer or there's some other precipitating event

973
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: that leads the brass at Florida State to think they

974
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: can do better elsewhere, and so despite the fact that

975
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 1: Florida State improved, they decide we've seen enough of Mike Norvell.

976
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 1: We're going in a different direction. That is definitely the

977
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: mo among major college football programs at this present state,

978
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 1: present date in twenty twenty two, looking over the fence,

979
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: seeing that the grass could be greener on the other side,

980
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: and making something of an irrational decision, I would not

981
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: put that beyond Florida State on the Mike Norvell front,

982
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: again suspending logic and reason here. I happen to think

983
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: they'll be better and they should keep them. But could

984
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: definitely envision that scenario to that point. Mike Loxley's an

985
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: interesting answer here, But these.

986
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 3: Are seen Norvell and Locksley are both out of somewhere.

987
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 3: They're not out of nowhere. They're out of somewhere firings. Okay,

988
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 3: that's all I'm saying.

989
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: Like it's in the IBB holder, Dan, I think I

990
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: happen to like Mikesley and the recruiting job he's done

991
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: at Maryland. I don't so much like the defense. But

992
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to play into here is that situation

993
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: in which you've got a program that thinks it can

994
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: irrationally do better.

995
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 3: Oh, I understand, but saying it's out of nowhere for

996
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,280
Speaker 3: a coach who hasn't won a bunch of games.

997
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 1: No where's in air quotes here, I got it. Okay,

998
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: you can.

999
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 3: By the way, we can dip back into the Twitter

1000
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 3: spaces that Florida State fans were holding the moment Travis

1001
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 3: Hunter declared for Jackson State, Mike Norvell leven would be

1002
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 3: out of somewhere, not out of nowhere, because that was

1003
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 3: a lot. Yet this guy out What a.

1004
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 1: World, What a world he took. He took some hits

1005
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: on that one. That was not good for Mike Norvell.

1006
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: Right for the Florida State program, we got we got

1007
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: three more here very quickly. Come on, let's play the

1008
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: sound again.

1009
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 2: If every instinct you have is wrong, then the opposite

1010
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 2: would have to be right.

1011
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 3: We got time playoff team, first time playoff team. Who

1012
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 3: do you have? Quickly? Utah, NC State and Oklahoma State?

1013
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 3: I have USC, Utah A and M and Baylor Baylor. Man, wow,

1014
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 3: you're aren't you defending Big twelve champ? Why are you

1015
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 3: just respecting the Bears?

1016
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: I did the preview one bail.

1017
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 3: I know you're being disrespected.

1018
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: That's why I'm disrespecting the Bears. Okay, it's very straightforward.

1019
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: I have questions every instinct.

1020
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 2: If every instinct you have is wrong, then the opposite

1021
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:21,879
Speaker 2: would have to be right.

1022
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: Well did you good at this last year? I know

1023
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: I did do the opposite thing. I was actually playing

1024
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 1: it straight and I did fairly well.

1025
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,479
Speaker 3: You did do well? Double digit underdog? The first three

1026
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 3: weeks of the schedule of the season. Who will win?

1027
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 3: Who can win?

1028
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: Who?

1029
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 3: You could see a universe existing in which this team

1030
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 3: wins outright? Double digit dog? First three weeks.

1031
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: You go first?

1032
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 3: All right? I have Northwestern plus twelve and a half

1033
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 3: against Nebraska in Ireland. You're telling me, you're telling me

1034
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 3: Nebraska has fully gotten its act together?

1035
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: Is this? Yeah?

1036
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 3: I don't think Northwestern is that good. But we're going

1037
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 3: overseas and playing in Dublin, and you're establishing yourself with

1038
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 3: a new everything as really, really strong. I don't think

1039
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 3: Northwestern is that good. I think most teams should be

1040
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 3: Northwest by double digits Week one in Ireland. Okay, I

1041
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 3: have another, a sneaky one here as well. Go ahead,

1042
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 3: Georgia's Georgia State, Go Panthers, Ye, go Panthers. Sean Elliott's

1043
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:31,720
Speaker 3: Panthers plus thirteen and a half against South Carolina. Yeah, team,

1044
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 3: they beat good team. They beats Carolina last year. They

1045
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 3: probably should have beaten Louisiana last year. They beat Coastal

1046
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:37,240
Speaker 3: on the road.

1047
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: They are a good team.

1048
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 3: I happen to think Georgia State's pretty good. I think

1049
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 3: they're solid all around. They've got a couple of playmakers.

1050
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 3: South Carolina starting over a little bit on offense, Spencer

1051
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 3: Rattler and look, I think South Carolina's gonna be interesting

1052
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 3: and feisty. But week one I think we I think

1053
00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 3: picking on Week one lines, specifically with no data points,

1054
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 3: I think it's tantalizing. Those are the couple I have there.

1055
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: Stanford plus eleven and a half against USC Okay, it's early.

1056
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: You called me crazy, when I mentioned it on the preview.

1057
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: I don't care. Okay, I don't care what you think

1058
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: of me anymore.

1059
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 3: Dan, I know you don't. That's okay. It's probably a

1060
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 3: positive thing.

1061
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: I don't care. It happened last year. They got rid

1062
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: of Clay Hilton afterwards, and I you know, I used

1063
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: to spend logic a little bit here. When you're playing

1064
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: this game, let's be real. But but I stay. Could

1065
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: see it happen. Could see USC with its virtual All

1066
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 1: Star team not being able to assemble the pieces. Could

1067
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: see David Shaw muddying the game up. Could see them

1068
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: getting in Caleb Williams's face, perhaps confusing him, showing some

1069
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 1: of the flashes of what we saw here and there

1070
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: in games while he was still playing at Oklahoma. Could

1071
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: see it, could see it happen.

1072
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,879
Speaker 3: I've got the spiciest one for the last one.

1073
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 2: If every instinct you have is wrong, then the opposite

1074
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 2: would have to be right.

1075
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 3: The seemingly unbenchable quarterback finding himself riding the pine by Halloween,

1076
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 3: we have to have the Spencer Rattler Memorial Award. Yeah, sorry,

1077
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 3: that was mean. He is a college kid, But that's

1078
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:25,280
Speaker 3: the first.

1079
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Speaker 1: Thing I thought was this is the Spencer Ratler Memorial

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Speaker 1: Award year.

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Speaker 3: And very much alive and hope he lives a long,

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Speaker 3: healthy life. I don't use the term memorial, but continue.

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Speaker 1: My last season in memoriam. Yeah, we're gonna have the

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00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: same answer for this one, aren't we. Are you sure?

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00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure we're gonna have the same answer for it.

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Speaker 3: Is it a quarterback east of the Rockies?

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00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: Yes?

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00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 3: Is it a quarterback that plays in the ACC?

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00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:48,919
Speaker 1: No?

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00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 3: Oh, I have an ACC quarterback who's yours, Tyler van Dyck.

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Speaker 1: Who's going to replace him?

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Speaker 3: Jake Garcia?

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Speaker 1: Really I don't.

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00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 3: I'm seemingly on benable ty. This is a zag episode.

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00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 3: We're taking a head coach and an offensive coordinator who

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00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 3: have had some disappointing results with talented quarterbacks, and through

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00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 3: offensive alchemy, are going to poison the huddle offensive alchemy. Wow, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's my unmentionable to me for sure? Unbenteable in August.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you missed. You missed the best answer here.

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Speaker 3: When want to talk.

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Speaker 1: About Spice Stetson Bennett?

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Speaker 3: Baby, Yeah, I think he would fall under seemingly unbenteable. Okay.

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00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: Stet's and Bennett won a national championship, broke the forty

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00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 1: plus year drought at Georgia, finally stepped up on the

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00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 1: biggest stage, got the job done when it counted the most,

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00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 1: the biggest stage, got some mammal behind him. Man, he

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00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 1: got talking about him. We talked about this a little bit.

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00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: I think I brought this up. I probably should have

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00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: thought of this. This is I probably this is your pro.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 3: No, I planted the seed that like, do they get

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Speaker 3: to the point where they need the quarterback position to

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00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 3: win more and score more? And then look at the

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00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 3: couple of the guys behind him and say, I don't know,

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00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 3: this might be time to start seeing what they have.

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00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 3: The future is now. Kirby has not been great with quarterbacks.

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00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: Obviously, I could I could envision the world in which,

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00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: you know, barring injury. We don't want to see an injury,

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00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: of course, of course, but barring that injury and due

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Speaker 1: to performance, maybe needing more out of the quarterback spot.

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Speaker 1: I thinks that's and then it's an interesting answer, I

1122
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, we haven't seen them yet. So

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Speaker 1: this is definitely a bit of a stretch for this category.

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00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: But it does seem to be a bit of a

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00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: blind assumption that Quinn Ewers is going to be the

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00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: starting quarterback at Texas, but Hudson Cards still there. Hudson

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00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 1: Card I could could end up taking that job. I

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00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: think that's that's probably a very realistic possibility.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: I think people will listen to this and they'll say,

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00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: dj U, Dju doesn't seem my benchbable.

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00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, you know, with.

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00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: What we saw last year, he doesn't see my benchable

1134
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: to me. So I do think we'll all be living

1135
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: in the club level at some point relatively soon. Might

1136
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: not be, you know, on a full time basis, but

1137
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: as we.

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00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 3: Said, it has to be. It has to be a

1139
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 3: guy that you say, man, things break correctly correctly, could

1140
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 3: be a Heisman caliber guy. So if you look at

1141
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 3: that and then you also look at a seemingly capable

1142
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 3: backup sets in bed, it's a very good answer. You

1143
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 3: ready for one. But Caleb Williams.

1144
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: I was going to bring that one up.

1145
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams had a couple of pretty down moments as

1146
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 3: a freshman, which we've all been there.

1147
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: Turns in the punch bowl for Caleb.

1148
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 3: Miller Moss pressive spring game, high caliber recruit coming out

1149
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 3: of high school. Now, Lincoln Riley is especially loyal to

1150
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams for following him. So it have to be

1151
00:58:56,680 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 3: extreme situation, but just a lot of pressure, a lot

1152
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 3: of pressure on Kayla Williams. Hope it doesn't happen. Hope

1153
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 3: USC's running a fun, interesting to watch offense. I anticipate

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Speaker 3: that being the case. With those receivers seemingly unbentionable, he qualifies.

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Speaker 1: If Sean Clifford were remotely unbenchable, he'd be a good

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00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: answer here. But I think he is very benchable. I

1157
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: think what Booie's Sean Clifford is the fact that a

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00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: he's been on campus forever. I've joked he's been there

1159
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: so long. He's got his own business because he does. Yeah,

1160
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: but he's going to be in year two now in

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00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 1: the Mike usage system. He's got that veteran presence that

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00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 1: I think will help that offense. But there are folks

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00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 1: coming for him. Drew lar is the quarterback of the future.

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Speaker 1: He is on campus. He might not be ready yet,

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00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: but there could be a point at which James Franklin

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00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: decides he wants to see what he offers. I don't

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00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 1: believe that will happen barring injury. But if we're suspending logic,

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Speaker 1: if we're leaving logic at the door, why not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say he's one of the more benchable

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00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 3: quarterbacks in the country right now. That's another show. That's

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Speaker 3: a fair Yeah, that's all I have. Look, it's great

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