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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly. He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: It is a Thursday here in Pittsburgh as the Steelers

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Speaker 1: prepared to go face the Baltimore Ravens in the rematch

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Speaker 1: from three weeks ago down in Baltimore. This will be

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Speaker 1: a night game. Um, obviously a lot on the line

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Speaker 1: for the Steelers. I thought we had a lot of

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Speaker 1: a lot of ground the cover today, Matt. One thing

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to talk about here first today however, Well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, Lamar Jackson didn't practice again the day.

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Speaker 1: That's not happening yet. He's not playing. But I do

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Speaker 1: want to talk about this. I saw this on Football Outsiders.

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Speaker 1: They picked they're all rookie team. Okay, they did with

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Speaker 1: two games remaining, Yeah, somethings could happen, sure, but let's

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Speaker 1: go through it. Yeah, let's let's go through perminent people here,

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Speaker 1: and you know we're gonna be rooting against the Jets.

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Speaker 1: They got some guys. They got some guys, right, right,

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Speaker 1: So I'm paying Rudy for Seattle. They got some guys,

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Speaker 1: let's go through a quarterback. Now, this is done by

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Speaker 1: Brian Knowles. I don't know Brian. I don't know him,

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Speaker 1: but I've seen many of his articles and I've don't

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Speaker 1: hesitate to click on. Okay, he's good. Yeah, so a

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Speaker 1: quarterback his often his rookie quarterback on his the All

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Speaker 1: Rookie team. Yeah, I got a problem with that. I

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Speaker 1: mean just the body of work. I mean, was he

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Speaker 1: has it been three games? I think he started three games.

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Speaker 1: He started three Yeah, that's not quite enough for me.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if Pickett was horrendous, I mean, if he

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Speaker 1: was Zack Wilson bad, I'll listen to that, but pick

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Speaker 1: It has a lot more to go. I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: back to what I've said all along here about Kenny Pickett,

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Speaker 1: because every time I mentioned Kenny Pickett and I tweet

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Speaker 1: out a story that I write on Steelers dot Com

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Speaker 1: about Kenny Pickett, immediately in the replies, well, he doesn't

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Speaker 1: throw any touchdown passes. So let's take the three rushing

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Speaker 1: touchdowns he has and add those to his to his

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Speaker 1: passing touchdown to do people then feel differently about it

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Speaker 1: if he has eight touchdown passes instead of five. I

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Speaker 1: think some of that fantasy driven. I think, are you

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Speaker 1: winning games right right right? You're moving to football? Do

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Speaker 1: you look like you belong? I mean, I think pickets

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Speaker 1: passing most tests as there's things he needs to work on, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I mean I was doing some picke at work last night.

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Speaker 1: It's a couple of concerning things. But I think every

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Speaker 1: day we get a conversation with Tim Ben's and Tom Offerman.

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Speaker 1: Last night is kind of came to the conclusion that

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Speaker 1: unlike most rookies, you're not seeing two steps forward, seven

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Speaker 1: steps back, you know another. We haven't seen any of

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Speaker 1: the oh my god games right right right. I mean

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Speaker 1: there's things to work on, of course you knew that.

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Speaker 1: But it's been baby steps, a nice steady climb, getting better,

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Speaker 1: getting better, And I think that's kind of rare for rookies,

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Speaker 1: and mostly mostly it's a roller coaster, yeah. I mean,

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Speaker 1: typically a lot of times you see a rookie step

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Speaker 1: then and then come crashing back down, or you see

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Speaker 1: them struggle mightily and then they you know, they either

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Speaker 1: get it or they don't get it. You don't typically

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Speaker 1: see the middle of the road like Okay, looks doesn't

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Speaker 1: look out of place, getting a little better to get

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Speaker 1: a little bit. It's a very Mac Jones like year

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Speaker 1: from a year ago, it is, except he hasn't hit

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Speaker 1: the wall like about this time last year, where I

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Speaker 1: think Kenny's getting a little better, a little better. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I'm not buying that at all. Good for you, Brock,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you've done some really good things. But I

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Speaker 1: just think that's an error as I As I said,

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Speaker 1: if if let's let's say Kenny Pickett goes out and

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Speaker 1: wins The's last two games, he'll finish with a seven

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Speaker 1: and five record as a starter, right, Um, he'll have

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Speaker 1: led fourth quarter comebacks, last game drive, you know, game

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Speaker 1: winning drives, things that you would expect to see out

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Speaker 1: of a fourth or fifty year quarterback. He's the only

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Speaker 1: one in this rookie class that I can pretty much

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Speaker 1: promise will be an opening day starter next year. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I mean, and that's not even the slightest bit profound. Yeah, No,

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Speaker 1: fantastic and it's not just the system or all that

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Speaker 1: he's playing very well, but three games, it's three games

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Speaker 1: at running back. He is going, I got go Walker.

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Speaker 1: That's who he's going with, Kenneth Walker. Um Pierce has

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Speaker 1: a lot of time. Brian Robinson's worthy of a mentioned there.

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Speaker 1: People forget he's a rookie and he's been good. He

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Speaker 1: missed some time too, or actually his kiss Tyler Algier.

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Speaker 1: That's not bad. I mean, if you consider recent developments,

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Speaker 1: he hasn't missed any time Walker has. Walker wasn't even

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Speaker 1: started right off the bat, not that Alagier was, But

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Speaker 1: I get it. That's not a bad call. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: gett not earn forty four yards from scrimmage, which I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's taken over the number one job. I mean, like

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Speaker 1: I bet he's their opening day starter next year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he has moved past Cordarrel Patterson, which absolutely wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: He said, we really don't have to debate it. It's

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Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson and Chris Alavy. That's true. However, I forget

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Speaker 1: who I even saw this from Actually he also has.

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Speaker 1: Christian Watson has been on fire since week ten. I

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Speaker 1: mean he really has. He would be third or fourth

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Speaker 1: that I thought was profound was if you look at

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Speaker 1: the rookie receivers this year, and Drake London is the

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Speaker 1: one that really comes to mind. He's producing more prepared

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Speaker 1: so you're gonna put up better number your quarterback throws

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Speaker 1: two hundred more times. Yeah, London's third in the class

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Speaker 1: with sixty one receptions. I mean he has sixty one

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Speaker 1: good stretch there, and he's been picking it up with Ritter.

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Speaker 1: He has forty more targets than any other Falcons receiver.

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Speaker 1: I mean that adds up to I mean Ritter has

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Speaker 1: really been feeding on the ball. He would be my three.

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Speaker 1: he's put up numbers, um, and I know, you know

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Speaker 1: people are gonna say, well, George Pickens, Well he hasn't

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Speaker 1: gotten He's had the wild plays and he's you know,

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Speaker 1: made plays whenever he's gotten the chance. He just has.

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Speaker 1: He has two other guys on his own team that

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Speaker 1: demand the football. I mean he'd be fifth or six

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Speaker 1: the rookie leader in d y a R. What is

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Speaker 1: the defensive yards against above above replacement? Yeah? Is your boy? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean really bad class. I mean Tramian Bride was

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Speaker 1: his I'm gonna I'm gonna take Abraham Lucas over Charles Cross. Okay.

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Speaker 1: They put Tyler Smith in there, and Dallas we're talking about.

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Speaker 1: I'm not everyone right doesn't know the lineman. But now

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Speaker 1: with the rookies. So they're very happy with him. And

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Speaker 1: he's not taking the holding calls like he did like

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Speaker 1: crazy in college. And you know, Um at guard it's

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Speaker 1: a little more what you'd expect Zion Johnson um. And

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Speaker 1: in ed Ingram with Minnesota, he's been really bad. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: how Green's done with Houston. I mean, he was the

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Speaker 1: him and Cole Strange, and Strange has been very good,

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Speaker 1: has he What I've seen, their whole line has been junk.

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Speaker 1: if h Mr Linderbaum has his uh such as good

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Speaker 1: to attack him a little differently, much better defensive class

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Speaker 1: little bit more uh so in edge rusher it's Aidan

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Speaker 1: starting to really come on. Hutchinson. They I'm coming out

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Speaker 1: Um yeah, they're building blocks, but I don't know if

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Speaker 1: any of them are superstars. Yeah. Uh, Interior defensive lineman,

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Speaker 1: he's got Jordan Davis and Met Henningson. Who's Matt Hennington

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Speaker 1: Denverse six round draft pick? Okay, they don't stop to

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Speaker 1: Like I'm racking my rain a little bit here. Who

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Speaker 1: are the other I mean, it's not the Packers Georgia, dude,

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Speaker 1: it's been a it's a pretty light group. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean it wasn't a great group if you remember, and

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Speaker 1: got half really Hydra the to Georgia guys with a

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Speaker 1: two high pick and then it was quiet after that

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Speaker 1: and DeVante Watts not been playing no, and that defense

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Speaker 1: is bad too. Yeah, that's a tough group to pick from. Linebacker,

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Speaker 1: he's got Kuay Walker Malcolm Rodriguez. Quay hasn't been bad.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's starting to play more and more. Um L,

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Speaker 1: people watched Hard Knocks Rodriguez they were calling him Rodrigo

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Speaker 1: or something whatever, But he's kind of a short, stumpy playmaker.

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Speaker 1: That's not a great group either. Now, cornerback, that's a

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Speaker 1: great group, Sauce Gardner for obvious reasons. He's been good,

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Speaker 1: Tarik Woolen, and then Miami's cater Cohu. Yeah, he's kind

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Speaker 1: our physical freaks. You know, Stingley hasn't played enough to

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Speaker 1: one of those guys this week. Kyle Hamilton's Can you

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Speaker 1: really consider him a safety though he doesn't play safety?

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Speaker 1: Not anymore? He was an interesting pick because they had um,

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