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Speaker 2: Hello, Welcome to another episode of Club Shashe. I am

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Speaker 2: your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the proproud of Club

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Speaker 2: Shasha and the young lady that stopped for conversation on

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Speaker 2: a drink today. Is one of the best love comedians.

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Speaker 2: She's one of the most decorated actors. She won an Oscar,

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Speaker 2: Arts Award. She's a Scripts Howard Guild winner, NAACP Image

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Speaker 2: Award winner. She's been nominated for a Primetime Emmy and

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Speaker 2: a Grammy. She's a talented host, executive producer, writer, and

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Speaker 2: an author. A versatal entertainer, a famed Hollywood star, a

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Speaker 2: powerful name in the industry, a veteran stand up comedian,

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Speaker 2: a mother, a wife, a legend, the one, the only Monique.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, No one does that better? Baby, do it again?

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Speaker 1: Call on.

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Speaker 5: Welcome to another episode of I Am Your Hole.

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Speaker 1: Now put that damn cause down and read all that again.

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Speaker 1: Oh brother, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 5: We stopped by.

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Speaker 2: I want to toast you for your amazing, amazing career

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Speaker 2: not only in front of the camera, but behind the

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Speaker 2: camera and your stand up career.

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Speaker 5: Monique than for stopping by today.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for having me, brother, shay Shah, thank you.

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Speaker 5: But the drinks of what after that?

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Speaker 1: Okay? Who? Yes? Indeed, let me just say this before

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Speaker 1: we start. Yeah this right here. Yeah, I'm gonna talk

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Speaker 1: right to the sisters. One sip and get you right

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Speaker 1: there and now I'm back to your shade. I'm back

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Speaker 1: to your baby. That's enough for me, baby, But oh, sisters,

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Speaker 1: if you're trying to make up with your man if

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Speaker 1: hump one sip, take care all your woes? Who that

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Speaker 1: thing right there? Okay?

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Speaker 5: Money.

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Speaker 2: When you hear everything that I read on the card,

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Speaker 2: what goes through your mind?

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Speaker 5: When you hear that?

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Speaker 1: What goes through my mind? When I hear you read that,

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Speaker 1: I'm humbled by that. I'm grateful for that I've been

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Speaker 1: allowed to share a gift, because that's what it is.

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Speaker 1: But when you start reading that, there's a part that says,

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Speaker 1: Because that's why I'm looking at you now. Why going

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Speaker 1: me say this to you. The day I watched Skip

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Speaker 1: Baylist lose himself with you, and that's what he did.

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Speaker 1: He lost himself. And when I watched Skip Baylist say

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Speaker 1: Now I know he didn't say goddamn it, boy, but

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Speaker 1: that's what everybody heard. And I was waiting for you

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Speaker 1: to snatch his ass across that table, baby, and give

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Speaker 1: perfect time. I don't condone violence. I don't say be violent,

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Speaker 1: but that day I was in my feelings for two days.

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Speaker 1: that feeling and run touchdowns, tackles everything. Had he snatched

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Speaker 1: Shannon's arms that day, right, So brother Shay, Shay handled

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Speaker 1: that right Now, we can talk, Okay. I just had

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Speaker 1: and we was looking for you to say spacing opportunities,

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Speaker 5: That's that be more coming out of you.

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Speaker 1: You know what, that's your aunt Mary coming out of me. Yes,

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Speaker 1: your Aunt Mary coming out of me.

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Speaker 2: Baby, I got an aunt named Mary Nell Monique. You

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Speaker 2: and her are a spitting image. I remember the very

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Speaker 2: first time I saw you and my sister and I

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Speaker 5: And you are. You are. Hopefully we're gonna put a

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Speaker 2: So you're from Baltimore, yes, And I read everything that

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Speaker 5: What did a young Monique want to be?

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Speaker 1: Just what I'm doing right now. Baby, you dream of

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Speaker 1: this just when I tell you, Shannon, from a little girl,

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Speaker 1: I always wanted to be famous because I saw the

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Speaker 1: understand what all came with that. As a little girl.

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Speaker 1: You just see the lights the glamour, the glitz, and

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Speaker 1: That little girl fell in love with a woman named

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Speaker 1: Oprah Winfrey on a local talk show in Baltimore called

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Speaker 1: I saw me. I saw a big woman with a

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Speaker 1: if fat woman can do that, so can I. So

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Speaker 1: that's what that little girl was thinking about from Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: Are you the type of person that if you see

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Speaker 2: done again. Because you saw Oprah do it, you say, well, O,

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Speaker 2: we're doing it, why can't Monique do it?

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Speaker 1: I think Oprah, when I saw her do it as

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Speaker 1: seen Oprah, my dreams would have still been my dream.

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Speaker 5: Okay, But when you.

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Speaker 1: See somebody that's inside of that space, because how many

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Speaker 1: big black women are on TV even now, so back

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Speaker 1: that was doing it. So I think had I not

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Speaker 1: But seeing her. Let me say, Okay, it's possible, it's

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Speaker 5: What was Monique like as a little girl?

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Speaker 1: What you're seeing right now? But nothing for you? I

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Speaker 1: just got listen. Let me tell you something. A lot

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Speaker 1: of people in this industry don't like me. Right. They

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Speaker 1: didn't like me as a little girl, Shannon. I'm so

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Speaker 1: used to this shit. People didn't like me because I

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Speaker 1: was gonna tell it. I'm going to tell I'm going

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Speaker 1: is the same thing you get in. They tried to

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Speaker 1: fight my ass in the twelfth grade, Shannon. They surrounded me,

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Speaker 1: a group of them. Okay, wanted to fight on me.

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Speaker 1: Why because I told the truth? What you tell I told.

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Speaker 1: I told Andre that that was not Lawan's baby, because

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Speaker 1: that's what let me tell Wait a minute of sugar.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna calm yourself.

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Speaker 6: Okay, do you see Shannon losing itself?

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Speaker 1: But you Shannon, let me tell you something. Okay. I'm

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Speaker 1: a person for right, right, And if you tell me

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Speaker 1: something and you say, Monique, I've done something to somebody,

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Speaker 1: but don't say nothing, Shannon, I'm gonna need you to

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Speaker 1: have to tell that because it's wrong. So when she

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Speaker 1: tells me this, this is not his baby, but I'm

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Speaker 1: twenty one years old, he's trying to find his father.

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Speaker 1: What you're gonna do, I'm asking you what you're gonna do?

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Speaker 2: Well, honestly, Monique, if somebody say, well shall I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: tell you something, and I'm gonna tell you this in confidentiality,

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Speaker 2: and I don't want to go.

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Speaker 5: Any further than me, you and this table. Yes, it

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Speaker 1: and forth with your hands. Okay, I would say, before

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Speaker 1: you tell me, did you hurt somebody?

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Speaker 1: Yes, before you tell me, is this something that would

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Speaker 1: Because if you're getting ready to tell me something and

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Speaker 1: See Harvey Weinstein. Yes, well, there's a lot of people

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Speaker 5: Happening, but if it wasn't their place.

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Speaker 1: It was with in them right until it becomes you.

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Speaker 1: So I think the moment we get into a space

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Speaker 2: The uniqueness of your name m o hyphen Most of

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Speaker 2: So yes, as I sit here with you today, you

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna play with you, Shannon. Okay, some of

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Speaker 1: Hey, but don't overlook what you don't think is the

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Speaker 2: Even your family, So how how was your family? How

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Speaker 1: And that's not a victim story, that's not all what

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Speaker 1: Been taught to you say, trauma is okay. We've been

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Speaker 2: that bad. Because if it has been as bad as

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00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 2: you said it is, Monique, how would you have ever

435
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 2: gotten out of be more? How would you have ever

436
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,360
Speaker 2: gotten into Hollywood? How would you ever have a talk show?

437
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 2: How would you ever be on a sitcom?

438
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 5: So? How is it that bad? Monique? And you end

439
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 5: up like this?

440
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,160
Speaker 1: You know, when you first got in the NFL, yes, man,

441
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 1: your eyes were like this, yes, and it was Oh,

442
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 1: I made it, I'm here. And then after you start

443
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 1: getting in it, and you started seeing things and you

444
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 1: started feeling things, and you start now your eyes start

445
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 1: fitting a little closer because now you're understanding what the

446
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 1: business is. Right, So when you first walked through the door,

447
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,360
Speaker 1: you're walking through the door saying, come on, baby, Oh,

448
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 1: this is all I've ever prayed for. And when my

449
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,159
Speaker 1: baby cat Williams sat here and said, no one's ever

450
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 1: gone out to LA and got a sitcom like that.

451
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 1: I was in LA for three months and here comes

452
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,880
Speaker 1: a show called The Parkers and there we go from there.

453
00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 1: It took off from there. So I think that when

454
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 1: people say if it was so bad, you mature, You

455
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 1: begin to understand what you're dealing with. You begin to

456
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 1: understand what you're in the midst of. And once you

457
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 1: understand it, it's when you can speak on it. But

458
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: before you really know what you're looking at, how do

459
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 1: you speak on that? Because when you first walk in

460
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: the door of Hollywood, you have everybody telling you, oh

461
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 1: my goodness, you're going to be amazing, Oh my goodness,

462
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,719
Speaker 1: this is going to be incredible. Well that's all you know.

463
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,159
Speaker 2: That is all you know. Yes, but you're so happy

464
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 2: to be here. Yes, and you're like, okay.

465
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 1: When when I listen to your story, you say dirt, poor, yes,

466
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 1: badroom outside, Yes it was. We had to make it work.

467
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 1: However we can make it work correct. And then you

468
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,919
Speaker 1: get that first bit check yes, and you think the

469
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 1: people that gave it to you was awesome because they

470
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 1: gave it to you and it's more money than you've

471
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 1: ever seen before, until you find out this ain't the

472
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: right money, this ain't the right amount. Wait a minute,

473
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: if they got this, why am I getting this? Then

474
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 1: you start putting the pieces together and you start saying

475
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 1: it's not right, and I'm going to speak about it.

476
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: See when I saw Taraji broken on those platforms, it

477
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 1: was painful to watch. However, Taraji and I had a

478
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: conversation over a decade ago and my trailer when I

479
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 1: was doing the morning show, and she said, you know,

480
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: you gotta keep on getting it until your turn come.

481
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 1: And I said, Taraji, most of us die before our

482
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: turn comes. We got to ask for it right now. Now,

483
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: I understand that because there was a time I felt

484
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 1: the same way, because that's what I was told. You

485
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 1: just keep going and we'll get them the next time.

486
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 1: We'll get them the next time. We'll get the next time,

487
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 1: and the next time never comes. And then you see

488
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: our sister broken sitting on those platforms now. When I

489
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: said it, when I said.

490
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 2: It, why didn't they get the traction when you said

491
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 2: it that when she said it. Now, all of a sudden,

492
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 2: everybody is coming and I don't have a problem. I'm glad, yes,

493
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 2: But if you said this a decade ago, and I

494
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 2: remember you saying it over a decade ago, why didn't

495
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 2: they get the traction? Why didn't they get the support?

496
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 2: Why wasn't it propped up when Monique said it.

497
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 1: I think there's a few reasons why. Number one, it

498
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 1: was the messenger. I should just be grateful I got

499
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 1: invited to the party. You a big fat black woman,

500
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: how dare you be the one? And then on top

501
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: of that, you're saying names. Your saying Oprah's name out loud,

502
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 1: You're saying Tyler's name out loud, You're saying Lee's name

503
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: out loud. Your saying lions Gate out loud. That's not

504
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 1: what we do. We say they, we say the people,

505
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: we say THEO, we say the producers. How dare you

506
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: actually say our heroes names? You specific these are our heroes.

507
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: How could you say their names out loud? Because they're

508
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: the ones that did it? And if I don't say

509
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: it out loud, Now you see a woman that is

510
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:23,199
Speaker 1: swallowing that pain, that is so stressed out. Then you

511
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 1: see our sister, Taraji Bhinson sit on that platform, and

512
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: I love that baby because she's a beautiful spirit. But

513
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: to see her that broken. What our community was saying was,

514
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: we have a hard time, some of us, we have

515
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: a hard time seeing a strong black woman with a

516
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 1: backstreet and a chin up and a strong black man

517
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: standing by her side. We have a hard time accepting that,

518
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: but we can accept seeing a black woman broken. Now

519
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: it's really serious because she's falling apart. Our community had

520
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: a hard time with those two things. And when I

521
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: would hear people say why is her husband there? Why

522
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: is he there? It's a sad day when we're questioning

523
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: why a black man was staying with his black woman.

524
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 1: So when you hear black women saying we're the most undervalued, disrespected, underserved, mistreated, violated, exploited,

525
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: we get all of that. Then you see a black

526
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: man standing with his black woman saying not on my watch,

527
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 1: and you hear some black men saying while her husband

528
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 1: got to be there. We're in a sad state of

529
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: affairs when we begin to question black love and black unity.

530
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: So they didn't want to hear me, some of them,

531
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: because of what I look like, because I spoke about

532
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: their heroes, and because they saw that man standing right

533
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 1: there strong.

534
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 5: Did they question lidity the.

535
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 2: Because we had never seen this before, not so not

536
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 2: so public, not so present.

537
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 5: Yes, did they question you and his relationship.

538
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: Be and my husband? Yes, when you say questions what

539
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 1: is like? Because they did. But I want to understand what.

540
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 2: Because okay, did they think that was your husband or what?

541
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 2: Was he your manager? Because he's been everything, he's your lover,

542
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 2: he's your manager, he's your whatever. He's all encompassing. Yes,

543
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: he's a toolbox with all the tools that Monique needs,

544
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 2: all of them. And so when I heard people saying

545
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 2: that why is he there? Why does he have to

546
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 2: be in every interview? Why does he have to be

547
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 2: in the background. Why can't Monique do that?

548
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 5: Why not?

549
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: Why not? Why not? And that's when you see and

550
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: these are my sisters. But when you see Taraji, when

551
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: you see Viola, when you see our sisters speaking out,

552
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: you never see their representation sitting right there with them.

553
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,719
Speaker 1: You never see them saying, listen, we gotta fight together.

554
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: My husband is also my manager, which is my representation.

555
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: But again, we've been so beat down that some of

556
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: us have a problem with this black man saying I'm

557
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: standing right here strong and I will not flinch and

558
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: I will not budge. What a sad state of affairs

559
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: we are now in where you have people that look

560
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: like you and I that would question why this man

561
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: is standing there that, for the life of me, it's

562
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: disheartening when we heard brother Malcolm say, we've been running unk,

563
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: we've been hoodwinked. We're now doing it to ourselves. We're

564
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: now doing it to ourselves. So when you say Monique,

565
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: it was different because we had never seen that before

566
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: you said their names. Let me say this, I'm not

567
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: the first one, right, I'm not the first one. But

568
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: we get washed away in history so easily that we

569
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: start thinking, oh, this is the first one. This is

570
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: the first one. Her name is Claudete Covin, and she's

571
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: not the first one, but she was before Rosa Parks.

572
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: But because Claude at Covin did not fit the picture

573
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: that they thought she should look like. She was dark

574
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: skinned and she had coarse hair, and because the organization,

575
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: I believe it was the NAACP did not think she

576
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: would be accepted by the white people. They had to

577
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: get somebody that they said the white people could accept.

578
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: We keep repeating the same thing because what I said

579
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: is no different than what anyone else is saying, not

580
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: at all. Right, it was the messenger, and it was

581
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: the way that I'm not putting my head down, I'm

582
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: not shedding one tear. I'm not gonna say I don't

583
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: want to say they name because I might get in trouble.

584
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say all of it right because when you

585
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: really think about that little girl coming behind you, what

586
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: I don't ever want that baby to see is me broken.

587
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: I don't want her to see me falling apart. And

588
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: I understand it. I understand how it can happen, Shannon,

589
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: when you may not have a foundation at home, when

590
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: you may not have that man at home or that

591
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: woman at home homever that support person saying you're not crazy.

592
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: I got you. Come on, we're gonna go do this.

593
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: We're gonna get through this. So for us, if we

594
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: start taking things for what they are and get out

595
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: of our emotions, we would be so far alone.

596
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 5: Do you believe punishment?

597
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 2: Punishment is not only meant for the perpetrator, but it's

598
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 2: also to deter others from said.

599
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: Acts you said.

600
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: Do you believe the punishment that was bestowed upon Monique

601
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,719
Speaker 2: was not only to punish you but to deter others

602
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 2: from saying what you say?

603
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,479
Speaker 1: Well, Shannon, see it, and I'm gonna answer that. But

604
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: sometimes we act like we don't know our history. See,

605
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: back in the day when they had us chains, they

606
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: would beat one real good, but in front of the

607
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: others and they let everybody know. What you don't want

608
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: is that type of ass whoopet So what they said was,

609
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna beat Monique really good, We're gonna sit her down,

610
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: and I made it public. Financially, my family took a hit, Shannon,

611
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: And when I tell you we took a hit, we

612
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: took a hit. So when you see our sister go

613
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: through that, you see her go through, and we act

614
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: like our eyes didn't see what it saw when we

615
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: watched that promotion happen with the color purple, we wanted

616
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: to act like we didn't see how Oprah Winfrey treated

617
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: to Raji. And my humble opinion, when you saw her

618
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: walk up, you saw that there was tension. You saw

619
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: that there was something happening. And then when you see

620
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: Taraji write her a love letter, it's like, listen, we

621
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: gotta stand tall and stand strong on what we know.

622
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: We know you were mistreated, we know it wasn't right,

623
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: we know it was unfair. And then you turn around

624
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: and say, oh, but lady Oh handled it. I have

625
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: a problem with that. I have a problem with that

626
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: because that allows Lady Jo to keep on doing what

627
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: she's doing, and we're in a position of I don't

628
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,479
Speaker 1: want to say nothing because we saw how Monique got whooped.

629
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: Now again, that's just my humble opinion, but I don't

630
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: know what else to I don't know how else to

631
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: frame that. It's like, listen, you better fix that because

632
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: you saw what they did to her, you saw how

633
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: they treated her.

634
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 5: Is it a situation?

635
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 2: Do you believe it's a situation that Oprah might have

636
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 2: faced something similar that maybe wasn't as public as you

637
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 2: and she's looking at it. Well, if I faced that,

638
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 2: went through it and came out on the other side

639
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 2: and look at me, it should be okay, because sometimes

640
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 2: we get that with parents. You know, I struggle, You say,

641
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 2: my kids should have to struggle sometimes. Also, do you

642
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 2: think that might be something going on with her or

643
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 2: you're just like, there's a disconnect.

644
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: There's a disconnect. Okay, there's a disconnect, and there's been

645
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: a disconnect for years. There's a disconnect. And I think

646
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: what happens is we place people on these pedestals and

647
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: we say, oh no, you can't do no wrong. We

648
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: don't even want to hear it. And when you hear

649
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: Kat say, you know what, they do, they don't say anything,

650
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: and they act like it didn't happen. I'm gonna keep

651
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: talking until you take accountability, until you say, uncle, I've

652
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: done this. That's why it was so important, from Oprah

653
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: Winfrey to Tyler Perry Lee Daniels. Now, Lee Daniels was

654
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 1: the only one I had to deal with. Did you

655
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: see Lee Daniels apologize? He walked out on the stage.

656
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 1: Not only did he apologize on stage, that man apologized

657
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: to our children. That man apologized to our children and

658
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: said I need to apologize for what I put y'all through.

659
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: He's the only one I had to deal with. However,

660
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 1: it became a problem with Oprah Winfrey and Tyler Perry

661
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,919
Speaker 1: that I wouldn't do something and work for free. Now,

662
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: when you say, well, maybe Oprah Field's like she came

663
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: through it. Why can't you Well, there's a story with

664
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: Oprah Winfrey. When she was on the show. People are

665
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: talking Richard Chaer was making fifty five thousand dollars. She

666
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: was making twenty two thousand dollars. These are her words.

667
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: It was her co host. She said, I had to

668
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: leave because they wasn't paying me fairly. Now, you say

669
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: black women who did nothing wrong, and you're in the

670
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: midst of this situation because she called me. Tyler Perry

671
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: called me Lionsgate call. When you were on the phone

672
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 1: with my husband, you said, I agree with Monique. I

673
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: agree with the position she's taking. But when it came

674
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: time to say it out loud, Oprah Winfrey went totally silent. Now,

675
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 1: to Tal's credit, Tyler Perry called us up right, and

676
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: he said, I can see the pain in you, and

677
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: I can hear it, and I want to let you

678
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 1: know that I would never do nothing to hurt you.

679
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: But the conversation kept going on, only for Tyler Perry

680
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: to admit he did start a rumor that I was

681
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: difficult to work with. He lied, only for Tyler Perry

682
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: to admit I was wrong. And when my movie Boo

683
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 1: come out, I'm gonna say that right now. Here's where

684
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: when you did that interview with Kat, I could respect

685
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: how you do it, because Kat said you let them

686
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: people lie in your face, and your response to was Kat,

687
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're lying or not, because I

688
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 1: can only take them at their word the word right.

689
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 5: Yes.

690
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: Well, we sent you the audio of Tyler Perry. I

691
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: don't want you to take me at my word. I

692
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: want you to hear his words. And what did you

693
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: hear that man saying? What did you hear that man saying?

694
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 5: He said?

695
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: What did he say?

696
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 5: Is that money? You know you're not supposed to be

697
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 5: recording people?

698
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, let me back up. Everything we

699
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: did was legal. And here's where a black woman really

700
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: gets the kick in the ass. Had I not recorded

701
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: Tyler Perry, then it would have been my word against his,

702
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: and then on top of that, it would have been

703
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: he's so powerful we can't even pay no attention to that. Well,

704
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: now I have him on audio, which is legal to

705
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 1: do where we live. Okay, we have him on audio,

706
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: and do you know what? Some people then said, why

707
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: would you record him? Just like you said there and said,

708
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: you know what's unlegal to But did you hear what

709
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: the man said? I violated you. I mistreated you. Do

710
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: you know, Shannon, that's cost my family tens of millions

711
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: of dollars. Yeah, over a lie and a rumor.

712
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 5: Is he gonna is he gonna make a car? He's

713
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 5: gonna compensate you for that.

714
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: I want you to look in your camera, yes, and

715
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: I want you to talk to Tyler Perry because you

716
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: heard what that man said, So ask him, will he

717
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: compensate my family for that?

718
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 5: Tyler?

719
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 2: Will you come on club Shay Shay, and let's have

720
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: a conversation about the fair compensation for what transpired between

721
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 2: you and Monique. You can sit right here, and she's

722
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 2: sitting right here, and you and I can have a conversation.

723
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: And well, do you want better? And give me five

724
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: on that? Baby? Where do you want better? Shade my

725
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: husband and I'll sit right next to him. See, with

726
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: this whole situation, and some of the people that Kat

727
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: talked about, ironically, I have issues with those same people.

728
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: There were people that reached out to Tyler Perry on

729
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: my behalf, okay, and I was grateful for that. Okay.

730
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 1: There was Al Sharpton, the Reverend Al Sharpton, civil rights leader. Yeah,

731
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: I sent him that audio. He listened to it. He said, baby,

732
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: what that man did to you is wrong, and you're

733
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: like my daughter, and we're gonna have to get him

734
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: to fix that.

735
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 5: Right.

736
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: We didn't hear from Al Sharpton for six months. The

737
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: next time we saw l. Sharpton, he was on a

738
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: podium talking about we don't need to fly commercial because

739
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: we can fly Tyler Perry's private jet. I said, that's

740
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: why maybe I'm not hearing back from him. Okay. Then

741
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: we had our beautiful sister, Stephanie Mills. Yes, okay, who

742
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: is she don't play?

743
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 5: Yes?

744
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: Right? I told her what happened since her the audio.

745
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: Now don't know if she listened to that audio or not.

746
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: But however, she called Tyler Perry. She said, Monique, Tyler

747
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: Perry does not want to revisit this. Okay, fine, While

748
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: we're on the phone, Tyler Perry calls her back and says,

749
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: I will meet with Monique, but not with her husband.

750
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: And you ready for this? And now Monique has to

751
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: apologize publicly, say Oprah and I had nothing to do

752
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: with messing.

753
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 5: Up her career, but that'd be a lie.

754
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: Looking at goddamn camera.

755
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 5: I thought I thought that was a stage.

756
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: The way you look at the camera. Yes, because you

757
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: heard it, yes right, yes, So when you have when

758
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: you hear what this man is saying, So I said, Stephanie,

759
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 1: tell Tyler Perry. Never will I meet with him without

760
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: my husband. And I owe no apology, so I'm not

761
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: going to give one that goes away. Kevin Hart now

762
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: you know when Kat Williams said Gatekeepers, Yes, Kevin Hart,

763
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: I do his podcast, yes, and I want you all

764
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: to re listen to the podcast so you can hear

765
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: it for yourself. When he first comes on, he says,

766
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: you're like my mother, You're like my aunt, you're like

767
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 1: my sister. Okay, Then we do the podcast. We speak

768
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: about the Tyler Perry situation Oprah Winfrey. He said, I

769
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: don't really know Oprah, but I'm gonna reach out to Tyler.

770
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Kevin kept his word. He reached out

771
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: to Tyler Perry. Kevin Hart called me back about maybe

772
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: a week or so later. He said, MO, I talked

773
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: to Tyler. He said he don't want to revisit it.

774
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: He said, but I tell you what, let's move past

775
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: that mod. Let's just move past that and let's just

776
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: do great things. So whatever I want you to hear me,

777
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: Kevin Hart, let's move past that mod. Let's do some

778
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 1: great things together. Don't even worry about it. Whatever y'all

779
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: want to do, I will partner with you. I'll executive

780
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: produce with you. You just let me know what you want

781
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: to do. Now, let me say that before we go

782
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: any further because I want to make sure I give

783
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: Kevin Hart his proper credit. When my family was up

784
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,439
Speaker 1: against the wall, Kevin Hart wrote us a check and said,

785
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: here you go. We're forever grateful for that. When we

786
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: were able to give it back, we said, brother, we

787
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: appreciate you with some interest on top, because I don't

788
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 1: never want nobody to think me and my husband, So

789
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: I want to make sure I put that out there

790
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: that brother really helped us out when we needed to

791
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: be helped out. Then when he came back with I

792
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 1: got you and ask Kevin Heart to do anything, he said,

793
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 1: our executive produce, I'll partner with you. I said, good shit, Kevin,

794
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: because we're in a deal with in Demoll and we're

795
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: trying to get our talk show back. MO. Whatever it is,

796
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: I got you. Now, Kevin Hart is one of the

797
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: biggest entertainers right now in the world right and was

798
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: Then we got off the phone with Kevin Hart. We

799
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: called in de mall immediately and said, Kevin Hast said

800
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,479
Speaker 1: whatever we want to do, he got us. He's gonna

801
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: partner executive use. They was like, oh, this is incredible

802
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: because when you put Kevin Hart name on it, you

803
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: already know what it is.

804
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 5: Correct.

805
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: Two weeks go by, we get a call from in

806
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: deomol In DeMar says, we just got a call from

807
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: Kevin Hart's manager, Dave Becky, and Dave Becky said, Kevin

808
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: doesn't want anything to do with Monique. So whatever she

809
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: told y'all, he doesn't want to do anything with her. Nothing.

810
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: You know, he doesn't want any any kind of relationship

811
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 1: with Monique.

812
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,919
Speaker 5: So what changed between the two weeks and when?

813
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 2: And plus he gave your check, you gave the money back,

814
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 2: then said he would partner with you executive produce whatever

815
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: you need more?

816
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 5: Hey, we got you.

817
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 2: So what transpired or what do you think transpire between

818
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,240
Speaker 2: then that two week period?

819
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: Well, soon as we got off the phone and they

820
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: told us what Kevin manager, David Becky said, I called

821
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: Kevin Hart immediately. I said, hey, baby, we just got

822
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 1: off the phone with end Demarro And they said, Dave

823
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: Becky called them up and said, you don't want anything

824
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: to do with me. He said, Mo, that's a miscommunication.

825
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: I can tell you right now. I said, wait a minute,

826
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: are you okay, toh with this white man calling them

827
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: up getting in between our relationship? Something you said he said, MO,

828
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 1: that's a miscommunication and we're gonna talk tuesday. Don't worry

829
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: about it. I'm telling you right now, it's a miscommunication

830
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 1: that was two years ago. If you talked to him,

831
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: I talked to him. I've never talked back to Kevin

832
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: Hart again. So that's what we're faced with when you

833
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: allow somebody to come in between a relationship with a

834
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 1: woman that you said, I'm like your mother. You said them,

835
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: like these things. I didn't ask you for that. So

836
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: everything that that baby was saying sitting here, everything he

837
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 1: was saying was on the up and up. Because when

838
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: you hear people say get the anger out your heart.

839
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: Oh man, no one's saying he's lying. No one ever

840
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: said I was lying. It's so easy to discount and

841
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: devalue because of what we look like. However, when it

842
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: comes to Tyler Perry, I will not allow you to

843
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: discount or devalue because that is your voice on that audio.

844
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: Remember on Good Times when Penny's mother was whooping up

845
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: on you and she had recorded it. That's you one tape.

846
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: So how does it go from you saying you're going

847
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: to give me an apology to now I owe you

848
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: an apology.

849
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 5: But what are you an apology for?

850
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 1: What could I possibly owe you an apology for when

851
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 1: you've admitted See when Lee Daniel says to me, because

852
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: Cookie from the show Empire, I was offered that role.

853
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: Now to Roger, pull it up, baby it listen here. However,

854
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: I was offered that then Feleid to call me back

855
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: and say, baby girl, they said you're too difficult to

856
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: work with. But you here on an audio that a

857
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,919
Speaker 1: man told David Talbert, I was difficult to work with.

858
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: Do you see how that cost my family?

859
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 5: Yes?

860
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: And with no accountability because oh it's the great Tyler Perry. No,

861
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: you've got to be accountable for that. Oprah Winford, You've

862
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 1: got to be accountable for the things you've done with

863
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: my family. You've got to be accountable for that.

864
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 2: Is there any relationship between you and Tyler and you

865
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 2: and Oprah currently?

866
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: No?

867
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 5: No, But I thought there was an apology. I read that.

868
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 2: I thought I read somewhere that Oprah had issued you

869
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 2: an apology and Tyler had issued an apology.

870
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 5: That's not correct.

871
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 2: No, No, the only person that's given you an apology,

872
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:52,760
Speaker 2: saw it.

873
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: Is Lee Daniels. That's the only person. So we are

874
00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: in a place where we're too afraid to call him

875
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: for what it is. We're too afraid to say, if

876
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: it looked like a duck in a quack, like a duck,

877
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: what is it, Shannon, It's a duck. So again you

878
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: see the struggle of the black woman. As I'm sitting

879
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: here talking to you and you say, Mogul, why would

880
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: you record him? But you heard the man violate me.

881
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 1: The first thing wasn't I can't believe that cat did

882
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: that to you? It's why would you do it? And

883
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: we understand it because we've been conditioned that.

884
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 2: Way, because when you you had to get somehow, because

885
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 2: when you're telling people these are lies, nobody.

886
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 5: Is believing Monique.

887
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,720
Speaker 2: So now even though you have him record his voice

888
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 2: and that's him and he's saying he made it up,

889
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: now it's no longer, Oh man, I can't believe he

890
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 2: lied on mo more.

891
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 5: Why do you record it? So now they're putting the

892
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 5: owner's back on you.

893
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 1: Where's the win? How do we win? How does a

894
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:02,240
Speaker 1: black woman win? When you say here, he is right here,

895
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 1: and I look to the community and say, how long

896
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 1: do we allow us to keep being exploited? Used up?

897
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: Taking advantage of and because we think somebody can give

898
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: us an opportunity, we just say, I'm not gonna say nothing.

899
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: If we keep operating like that, Shannon, You're gonna have

900
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: a whole lot of us sitting right here in this

901
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 1: same seat, almost telling the same story.

902
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 2: Why do you think Tyler is afraid to meet with

903
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 2: you and your husband? Why does it need to be

904
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,720
Speaker 2: you one on one when he meet with other representatives

905
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 2: and their client.

906
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 5: What is it about you that he feels it needs

907
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 5: to be just you?

908
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 2: And he does he think your husband is some kind

909
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 2: of negative influence on you. He thinks the husband is

910
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 2: saying things that Monique probably wouldn't say if I just

911
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 2: had had an opportunity to talk to her one on one.

912
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 5: What do you think that is?

913
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: Let me say, people better be glad my husband is

914
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 1: by my side because they have people in Hollywood that

915
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: know wherever you act up is where I show up.

916
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: People know in Hollywood. Baby shaying it, and I don't

917
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: say it with a badge of honor, It's just what

918
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: it is. Well, I've had to say, who you think

919
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: you talking to? And we're sitting there with the president

920
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: of the studio or the my patience level. It's not

921
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: gonna allow. I've been molested, I've been violated, So the

922
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: moment I see you trying to do it, we're gonna

923
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 1: have to address it. My husband is nothing but a gentleman.

924
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: And you know why people have a problem with my

925
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: husband because he right to it. There's no we're gonna

926
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: dance around the bush. He's right to it. And people

927
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 1: like Tyler Perry, people like Oprah Winfrey, they look at

928
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: my husband and say, how dare you be so direct?

929
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: How dare you not put your eyes down when you're

930
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: talking to me? How dare you do that? My husband

931
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: is also my manager. Why would he want to exclude

932
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: my management. It's like Tyler, you should want my husband

933
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: to be there. You may want him to be sitting

934
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 1: right there so that way we can have a conversation

935
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 1: that everyone can be heard. But I appreciate you, Shannon,

936
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: because most people are too afraid that's heard the tape.

937
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: They're too afraid to say, no, I heard it, and

938
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 1: this is what he said. I appreciate Ts Madison because

939
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: Ts Madison was the first one to say no, I

940
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: heard what he said. So when folks were trying to

941
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 1: jump on her she knocked down for the black woman. Listen, baby,

942
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: y'all don't even understand the fights that says to be

943
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: having when ain't nobody watching for the black woman?

944
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 5: Right?

945
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: So I appreciate you looking in that camera.

946
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 2: Right well, I mean, look, sometimes there are some some

947
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 2: black people, some not all. Some that my grandfather used

948
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,439
Speaker 2: to say, MO, is that if you're not careful, you'll

949
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 2: become the very thing you despise the most of a person. Now,

950
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 2: what do we despise most about Trump supportersident ex President Trump?

951
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,919
Speaker 2: No matter what he says, no matter what he does,

952
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 2: they give him an out. There's some people in our community,

953
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 2: no matter what powerful black people say or do in

954
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,240
Speaker 2: our community, will give them an out. And we can't,

955
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 2: and we become the very thing we despise the most.

956
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,919
Speaker 2: What we despise most about President Trump's ex President Trump

957
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 2: support us is that no matter what he does or says,

958
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 2: it's okay, yes, we can't do that.

959
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 5: You can't.

960
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 2: We can't if somebody is wrong, Like you said, MO,

961
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 2: if somebody is wrong, we have to be man or

962
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 2: woman enough to say they're wrong, regardless of what comes

963
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 2: along with that.

964
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: They don't know, they don't understand what them saying i'm

965
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: sorry will mean for them. See when I.

966
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 2: Read this, because that's not for you and I'm sorry.

967
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 2: It's not for the person that you offended. It's for

968
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 2: you because currently you're in hostage your feelings because you

969
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 2: have to live with that, you know, give with that

970
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 2: what you've done.

971
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 1: So when you see a woman say me turning seventy,

972
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: I'm so happy because I've never heard anyone stop it.

973
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 1: Stop it because there's a black woman that has been

974
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: calling your name for over a decade that you seem

975
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: to want to make go away. And I know I'm

976
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: not the only one.

977
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,760
Speaker 2: Would you would you sit if Oprah called mo today?

978
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 2: Would you sit down and have a conversation with her?

979
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: Let me tell you what I'll do if Oprah call

980
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: me today, Shannon Sharp, we will sit down and have

981
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 1: a conversation with Oprah Winfrey. We will sit down and

982
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: have a conversation with Tyler Perry. We will sit down

983
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 1: and have a conversation with the presidents of lions Gate.

984
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: We will sit down and have a conversation with anyone

985
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 1: that is I'm gonna say brave enough to sit down

986
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: and have a conversation. But what happens is within seconds.

987
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: Within seconds, if Tyler Perry was to sit right here,

988
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 1: you will say, man, I heard you. What you trying

989
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: to tell me about the system. Within seconds, Oprah Winfrey

990
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: would know that. People would say, hold up. See when

991
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:55,240
Speaker 1: I speak about Oprah Winfrey, and let me be clear,

992
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: I love that sister, because she's our sister. She just

993
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: got to come back across the street. We got the

994
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: light on. When I speak about Oprah Winfrey, I speak

995
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 1: about that woman because she's spoken about me. And when

996
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 1: you begin to speak about me privately, I'm gonna speak

997
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: about you publicly. You've been unfair, you've been unjust, and

998
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: you watched the black woman be thrown under the bus

999
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: and you said nothing. And here's what's interesting as well.

1000
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: My husband was saying to me after I won the

1001
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 1: Oscar Award, right and she had the people come, you know,

1002
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: to talk to the Oscar winners, and I go on

1003
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 1: the stage and I talk to the Oscar winners. Well,

1004
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: when we go to a commercial, the people in the

1005
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: audience and I say this humbly, as my husband was

1006
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: telling me, he said, Mama, they wasn't screaming Oprah. They

1007
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 1: were screaming Monique right so much so I had to say,

1008
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: y'all gonna shut that shit up. Now we get ready

1009
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: to go back on the ad. We having fun, right,

1010
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 1: he said. But I watched Oprah, he said, and I

1011
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: watched her almost turning her seat like they screaming her name.

1012
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,399
Speaker 1: Now some people will say, oh, Monique, are you reaching Well,

1013
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: let me tell you what then happens the movie The Butler.

1014
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: That movie was offered to me. Lee Daniels came out

1015
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 1: and said, I did offer Monique the Butler, But as

1016
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: he said to me, he said, Moe, at the time,

1017
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: I didn't have no power and I didn't have no money.

1018
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: So when Oprah says she wanted it, so who played

1019
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: the lead role in The Butler? Oprah Winfrey? Lee Daniels

1020
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: was getting ready to do a bio pic on Richard Pryor,

1021
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: and he offered me the grandmother, who then calls Lee

1022
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 1: Daniels and says, I want to be the grandmother. So

1023
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 1: as you're looking at me, it's the same way I'm

1024
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: looking at that sister, and I'm saying, why don't we

1025
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: sit down and have a conversation, because the way things

1026
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: could look it may not be that way. But just

1027
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: the way things look, Oprah, Just the way you would

1028
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: have my family on your show. Oprah.

1029
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 2: One might say, more, well, I mean, if the roller

1030
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 2: they're looking for a black.

1031
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,479
Speaker 1: Big go ahead and say sharing it's Okayful with his words,

1032
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: he wants say fat black woman. If the role looking

1033
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: for a fat black woman. Mother, he was like, you know,

1034
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: this is why we love you, uncle Shay, shape, because

1035
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,760
Speaker 1: we want you to say a fat black woman. Now, men, Oprah,

1036
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 1: fit the damn description shape, fat black?

1037
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 2: Don't we fit in you do? But I'll be right

1038
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 2: back here to be. I'll be your neighbor up there

1039
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 2: where you live.

1040
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 1: At Listen here, listen here, listen here. So so are

1041
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: you lying now? I'm not gonna have your big ass

1042
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: hit in here in the Hall of Fame, and you're

1043
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: scared to say shit okay? And I want to excuse

1044
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 1: myself Andy the babies that might be watching this, because

1045
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna say no spicy things. But Shape say

1046
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: get me wrong, now, come on, a shack.

1047
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 2: One might say, or people might say, well, mo, I

1048
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 2: mean the role called for a heavyset black woman.

1049
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 5: You, Oprah, y'all fit the role?

1050
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 1: Yes?

1051
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 5: How do we know that.

1052
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 2: She wasn't off of the role at long, and people

1053
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 2: think that she's better, more and more qualified than you.

1054
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: It don't work like that, Shannon. You can't offer me

1055
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: once you say, I want you, right, that's what it is. Okay, okay,

1056
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: But I don't have the money to fund a production.

1057
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 1: I don't have the connections to go to the studio

1058
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: and say, listen, I want to do this movie. She does.

1059
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: So when Lee says, hey, baby, she got the money,

1060
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: go get it. But someone would just say, how is

1061
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 1: that working out like that? How's that happening like that?

1062
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: How is it that things that was offered to Monique

1063
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: you seem to be playing now. I told Oprah about that.

1064
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: See everything we're saying to you right now.

1065
00:55:58,120 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 5: He was having a conversation here.

1066
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: I don't play there behind the back. I don't play that.

1067
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna share with share. There's one thing I will

1068
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: share with you that I've not shared with anybody. But

1069
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 1: I don't play there behind the back. And all of that.

1070
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 1: I say, listen, let me try to get to you first.

1071
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: Now if you avoid me, okay, but I tried to

1072
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: be respectful. I tried to call you first when she

1073
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: had my family on her show. I tried to call

1074
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: you first. I tried to talk to you privately, but

1075
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: then you became the great, the great, mighty Oprah Winfrey,

1076
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: and you were too busy to talk. Well, now I'm

1077
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: gonna talk about it. This woman has overstepped with me

1078
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: so in so many ways that somebody would say if

1079
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 1: we wasn't Monique and Oprah Winfrey in the entertainment business,

1080
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: and we was Monique and Oprah Winfrey that worked at Coshco.

1081
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 1: I see you in the breakthron I see edge of

1082
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: cash register because she's overstepped.

1083
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 5: Wow.

1084
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 2: So I don't know, mo, Nikki, this might be the

1085
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 2: term crossing of the rubicon. We might be going too far.

1086
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 5: I can't.

1087
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:06,879
Speaker 1: I don't.

1088
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 5: How do you if you feel that way?

1089
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,399
Speaker 2: Because clearly, if you feel this way, now I get

1090
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 2: why you feel this way.

1091
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 5: I don't know. Like I said, I don't know this, don't.

1092
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 2: I'm taking you at your word, not not the title,

1093
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 2: because I've listened to the audio. Yes, I'm not talking

1094
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 2: about that. I'm just talking about Oprah. Yes, I'm just

1095
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 2: taking you at your word. Yes, if you feel this way,

1096
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 2: is it possible she feels the exact same way about you.

1097
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: How could she? How could she? What have I taken

1098
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: from Oprah? When did I have Oprah's mother and father

1099
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: on my show? When did I have anybody come and

1100
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: speak about Oprah Winfrey on the Monique Show. That's never happened.

1101
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 1: So how could she feel that way?

1102
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 5: Would you have done that.

1103
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: Had her family? Or yeah, let me tell you how

1104
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: we operate. When we had the Monique Show, that was

1105
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,479
Speaker 1: a comedian on them and he was trying to joke

1106
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: t I s wife tiny My husband walked out in

1107
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: the middle of his set. He said cut. He said, brother,

1108
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: we don't do that here. We uplift our folks. We

1109
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: don't play that. So no, I would not have done

1110
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: that when Oprah Winfrey had my family. And I'll tell y'all,

1111
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: and I'm looking over, I'm looking around, baby, because they

1112
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 1: have people here, yes, okay, And I don't want to

1113
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: be rude to the people at Sha Shay's club. You

1114
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 1: got other people in the club. Right. When Oprah Winfrey

1115
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: called me up and she said, I got a call

1116
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: from your brother. And then this is after I'm won

1117
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: the oscar Ward right, and your brother wants to come

1118
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: on the show, and he wants to apologize to you

1119
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: for molesting you, and he wants to tell other people

1120
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: how to look out for a predator. I said, Oprah,

1121
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: I said, I don't want anything to do with that cat.

1122
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: I said, but and then she said, well, if you

1123
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: want me to scratch the show, I will scratch it.

1124
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: I said, Sis, don't scratch it because he could be

1125
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: a different person, and I don't want to get in

1126
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: the way if that cat is a different person. I

1127
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 1: just don't want no parts of it. Okay. When I

1128
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 1: hung up that phone, Shannon, I was like, I appreciate

1129
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 1: that sister, Like she didn't have to call me. She

1130
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: didn't have to call me and said, I'm I have

1131
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: your brother. I stopped seeing commercials with my mother and

1132
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: my father and my other brother who used to be

1133
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: my manager, who knew the fear that I had with

1134
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: the brother that was up on stage right. We never

1135
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: talked about my mother being there.

1136
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 5: She never told you that.

1137
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: You know how you feel about your.

1138
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 5: Grandparents, Yes, absolutely.

1139
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: You know the honor and how you speak about them.

1140
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: Imagine you've done seeing your granddaddy and your grandmama on

1141
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: a show and they're talking about somebody that violated you,

1142
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: and that woman didn't tell you that they were going

1143
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: to be there. How what you feel.

1144
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 5: I would feel like you feel like you felt betrayed.

1145
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 1: That is exactly how I felt and how I feel.

1146
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: And it's not oh I'm in a no, I understand it,

1147
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: but you portrayed me, sister, And I'm not the only

1148
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: one you.

1149
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 2: Got at the time when she called you, she said

1150
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 2: it was just your brother, just my brother.

1151
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: And when my mother was on that shoulder, you know

1152
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: what I had to deal with, Shannon, What's that. I

1153
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 1: would be in the store and I would have elderly

1154
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 1: women coming up to me and they would say, your

1155
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 1: mama ain't shit.

1156
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 5: Wow.

1157
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: Now they wasn't lying, Shannon. Hey, they wasn't lying. Baby.

1158
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: Sometimes you got nothing. The truth be god damn truth.

1159
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: Sometime you got to just go with it. But still,

1160
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: it's my mother and I'm in hand because when she went,

1161
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 1: I'm having to defend something and I got that often

1162
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 1: with them telling me what my mother wasn't because you

1163
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,439
Speaker 1: did not tell me. Had Oprah Winfrey said I'm gonna

1164
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: have your mama, I'd have said, shut that shit right.

1165
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 1: I don't need nobody seeing my mama be greedy. I

1166
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: don't need the world, see shut it down. Now, there's

1167
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: a white woman named Barbara Walters. They called her first

1168
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: and she said, Monique, I told your family I can't

1169
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: do that to you. I wouldn't do that to you.

1170
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 1: You just won that award. Like, why would I do that?

1171
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 5: Yeah? This, I mean, you're here.

1172
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 2: Why would I bring something that I know that you

1173
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 2: don't want to talk about?

1174
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 5: You lived it. Why do I need to replay it again?

1175
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: Ask her? You came a right there, baby. Ask her.

1176
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 1: See this is where you get juicy, right, because you're

1177
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 1: you're you're saying the right things, but you're asking me

1178
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: questions that I can't answer. I can't answer why Oprah

1179
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 1: Winfrey did what Oprah Winfrey did. Only Oprah Winfrey can

1180
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 1: answer for her actions. So again, stop being scared. No,

1181
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: I knew that would get him my line.

1182
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 2: I knew that.

1183
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 1: I'm back the baby. I knew that again.

1184
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 2: But even this show, I have a producer, and I

1185
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 2: give him a lot of leadway, but I've had people

1186
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 2: reach out and say, well, a family member saying something,

1187
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 2: and I want to come on your show and refute it.

1188
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 5: That is what we do here, right.

1189
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 1: It's like it's almost you don't cross that barrier.

1190
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 5: Don't do the family thing.

1191
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: You don't do the family thing. And I'm gonna bring

1192
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 1: this up. I wasn't gonna do it, but damn it,

1193
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 1: this is this seat makes you go truth, tell it,

1194
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 1: Tell the damn truth. Damn to tell the truth. Because

1195
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: family is sacred, it's supposed to be, and we don't

1196
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:54,479
Speaker 1: cross the line with family. And people begin to get

1197
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: comfortable to jump on the monique bandwagon of money doing

1198
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 1: things wrong. And she's doing this and she's doing that.

1199
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 1: And there's a brother named Dale Hughley yep, and until

1200
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 1: he take accountability, I won't let it go. What because

1201
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 1: what was you get ready to say?

1202
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, what did d L do?

1203
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 1: Let me change? Baby? That voice went not Didn't that

1204
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 1: d L his friend? He like, that's my friend.

1205
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 2: No, I've met DAL on several occasions. I don't know

1206
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 2: DL like that.

1207
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 5: Do I know DL? Say like I know an earthquake? No,

1208
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 5: do I know?

1209
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 2: Since I've interviewed Kat, had several conversations with him, do

1210
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 2: I know DL on that level?

1211
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 5: No?

1212
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 1: Right, See, when we say family is sacred, right, family

1213
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: is sacred, and we know that you don't cross the

1214
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 1: line when it comes to family. Correct, right, I do

1215
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 1: DL's radio show. Yes, Dal Huglely is not there, his

1216
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 1: team is there, and Shannon. We having a great time.

1217
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 1: I mean, baby, we having a great time. We going

1218
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 1: for it back and forth. When we get to the

1219
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 1: end of the show, they said, you want to play

1220
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 1: a game? Well, I want to play? I said, sure, Shugar,

1221
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 1: Let's play a game. And it's a game called would

1222
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 1: you rather?

1223
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 2: Okay, Now, Monique, you already you should have said I'm

1224
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 2: too old.

1225
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 5: For this game.

1226
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 6: Wait, man, we're having fun, baby, right, we're having a

1227
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 6: good time sharing it. Okay.

1228
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 1: We I mean it's the sister that and it's two

1229
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 1: other guys. We're having a great time. It's a beautiful

1230
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 1: black uriney cookout. We're having a good time.

1231
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 5: Okay.

1232
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 1: Would you say your wife was your family? Is that

1233
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 1: considered family?

1234
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1235
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 1: So your husband is considered family. Okay, So here we go.

1236
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 1: They said, Monique, we want to play a game of

1237
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 1: would you rather? Let's go would you rather your husband

1238
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 1: sleep with Lee Daniels with a condom or Krinne Stephens

1239
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 1: without one?

1240
01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 5: Really?

1241
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 1: Monique, now, as y'all a watch and right now, haven't

1242
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 1: heard this doing y'all going, they're doing the same thing

1243
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 1: in the studio. They're going, I can hear that is

1244
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 1: exactly what happened. Now. I said to the team, how

1245
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 1: does that uplift our community? I said, sister, and her

1246
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 1: name is Jasmine, How could you ask another sister that? Well,

1247
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 1: we just planned, I said, tell me the joking that

1248
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 1: because I don't know what you're insinuating, then you're involving

1249
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 1: people that have nothing to do with nothing, like what

1250
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 1: are y'all doing? So I said, I'm gonna call my

1251
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 1: brother d L. I'm going to call my brother. I

1252
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 1: call d L. Hughley on the phone. I say, hey, baby,

1253
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 1: yeah huh. That's how he responds, yeah, did he know

1254
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 1: what you? Yes? He because they called him to tell

1255
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 1: hypno Moniq's gonna be calling like this. It was getting crazy.

1256
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, just let me get on the phone with

1257
01:05:55,960 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 1: my brother, right Hey, d L. Yeah, I said, listen,

1258
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 1: I just got off the phone with your team and

1259
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 1: they wanted to play this game? Would you rather? And

1260
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 1: it was like stupid, like ask me about my husband

1261
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 1: and Lee Daniels and Karen Stephens and his exact words, Well,

1262
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 1: that's how we do it, I said, d O, how

1263
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 1: does that uplift our community. And again, I don't know

1264
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 1: what y'all trying to insinuate, but brother, what you doing,

1265
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 1: Like I said, that's just how we do it. So

1266
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 1: it is what it is now. It got so ugly

1267
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 1: that my attorney had to send a cease and desist

1268
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 1: so it never aired. So we have like when Kat

1269
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 1: Williams talk and people truth tell Us talk, we have

1270
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 1: receipts to everything we're saying. That's how that whole thing

1271
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 1: got started. Okay, it's family. My husband is my family. Yeah,

1272
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 1: now you babies that are really good with this internet.

1273
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 1: Through the years, I've watched DL speak ill of me

1274
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 1: through the years. I never knew me. I never knew

1275
01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 1: Dale Higley had a problem with me. But when Cassay

1276
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 1: all a group, he forgot to put d O hugely

1277
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 1: in the group. Through the years, I was bitter. I

1278
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 1: was dangerous with what I was doing, saying that it

1279
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 1: was inequality. My husband didn't know what he was doing.

1280
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 1: This went on through the years. I was unloved all

1281
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 1: of these things, and I said to myself, I'm gonna

1282
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 1: see you. I'm gonna see you. I didn't go on

1283
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 1: nobody's show. I didn't say nothing to nobody, but I

1284
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:29,919
Speaker 1: knew the time would come that I would see him.

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01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 1: Were scheduled to do a show in Los Angeles. I

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Speaker 1: was the headliner of that show. His name was on it.

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Speaker 1: Then his name came off. I didn't question it, but

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Speaker 1: I knew I'm gonna see him right eventually. Okay, Now

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Speaker 1: we have a show in Detroit. Contractually I was the headliner.

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Speaker 5: D O.

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Speaker 1: Hugley posted a memo. Now, when you signed your deal

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01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 1: for the Ravens, did you sign a contract or memorandum?

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01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 5: I signed a contract.

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01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 1: You see how you say that? Like anybody that knows

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Speaker 1: good business, you signed the memo was saying this is

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Speaker 1: what I would like, But the contract is saying this

1297
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 1: is what it is. Okay. He put out a memo

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Speaker 1: to our community, and that touched me a little different

1299
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 1: because I was saying, why would you lie to our babies,

1300
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 1: Because now they're thinking if they send somebody a memo,

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01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:24,520
Speaker 1: that's what they're supposed to get. Okay. I was contractually

1302
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 1: signed to go as the headliner, right do Yo hugely

1303
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 1: didn't come into the building until nine thirty. Now, contractually

1304
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 1: I said I have to be on stage by nine

1305
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 1: thirty because if the show starts at eight, I refuse

1306
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 1: to keep an audience waiting. That is disrespectful to the board.

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Speaker 1: When I went out on that stage, Shannon, I made

1308
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 1: sure everything I said he heard me, because now you're

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01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 1: here and I'm going to say it to you. And

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Speaker 1: I said some things on that stage that I said

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01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 1: he was cowardly, and some folks said, how could you

1312
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:01,640
Speaker 1: say that? How could you do that? And then I

1313
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:05,679
Speaker 1: posted some things to say, this is what I meant. See.

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01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 1: You came after my husband, and when you had a

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Speaker 1: chance to fix it, when you had a chance to say,

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01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 1: mo my bad. You know we don't even get down

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01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 1: like that. You told me it is what it is.

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01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 1: And until he's brave enough and courageous enough to say

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Speaker 1: this is what really happened, y'all have never known me

1320
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 1: to be no shit starter. Folks ain't never known me

1321
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 1: to go and kick a sandwich out on somebody's hand

1322
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 1: it's hungry. But what people do know is if you

1323
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 1: kick me, damn if I ain't gonna kick you back,

1324
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 1: because that's fair play. So there was one left out

1325
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 1: the pack. And when you have people that continually don't

1326
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 1: take accountability, that's why you see us in the state

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01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 1: of affairs we're in.

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Speaker 2: I'm a firm believera mole that everybody don't play the same.

1329
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 2: And someone once told me, what is joke to you

1330
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 2: is death to someone else?

1331
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:00,600
Speaker 1: What is joke. That's why we we don't play with

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01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 1: people's families. When we had the moniche show, the radio show, listen,

1333
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 1: you can't come on here and speak ill of no

1334
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 1: one because we don't play like that, because we know

1335
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,719
Speaker 1: how this business works. So when you allow that to happen,

1336
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 1: what do you think is gonna come back your way?

1337
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 1: What do you think?

1338
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 4: And D. L.

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01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 1: Higley? Please, no, brother, we still love you. Just take

1340
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 1: accountability for it and we move forward.

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Speaker 2: I remember reading something about the situation in Detroit. I

1342
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:32,599
Speaker 2: didn't know the depth of the magnitude of it. I

1343
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 2: remember meeting something about a memo about I guess it's

1344
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 2: an agendum that was added on.

1345
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:40,680
Speaker 5: But the contract is the contract.

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01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 1: The contract is the contract. And what happens is because

1347
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 1: of the messenger. It was easy to pile on. It

1348
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 1: was easy to pile on. And then when you have

1349
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 1: out some of our black folk that go sit in

1350
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 1: front of a white man and speak ill of their people.

1351
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 1: I'm like, y'oll, what are we doing? What are we doing?

1352
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:00,439
Speaker 1: What are we doing?

1353
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:00,600
Speaker 5: What?

1354
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 1: What are we coming to? That We're gonna sit in

1355
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 1: front of this white man. I can't even say his name.

1356
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 1: I refuse everybody know who he is. We sit in

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01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 1: front of him and we just let this man say

1358
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 1: any and everything about us, and then we go right

1359
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:18,640
Speaker 1: in with him. That now, see that to me is dangerous.

1360
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 1: And y'all, babies, that's good with this little computer, don't

1361
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:24,959
Speaker 1: take my word. You can just go through the years

1362
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 1: of this cat just running his mouth and it's like,

1363
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 1: stop doing that, because what are we saying to the

1364
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 1: babies coming behind us?

1365
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 5: We're gonna continue this, but I want to get into

1366
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 5: where you're from. The DMV.

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01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:42,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you realize, like Chappelle, Martin, Tommy Davis, an

1368
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 2: earthquake yourself? What's in the soil in the DMV that

1369
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 2: got you guys? I mean you've done television, stand up.

1370
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 2: All these guys have done television and stand up and

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01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 2: are great at it. When you look at like Chappelle,

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Speaker 2: Chappelle walked away, like walked away from it and said, nah,

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01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 2: I want to do my own thing because I'm not

1374
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 2: gonna let you guys hold me HOSTI yes, but Martin

1375
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 2: still does television. Tommy Davidson doesn't do as much television.

1376
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 2: Quake is not in television, but he has, you know,

1377
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 2: have this all his gigs going on. When you look

1378
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 2: at the success that a Chappelle, Martin, Earthquake is habit,

1379
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 2: and you says, hold on, and none of them guys

1380
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 2: went on Oscar and none of them guys did what

1381
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 2: I did and on the movie set, and they're having

1382
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 2: the commercial sense that there's a habit.

1383
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 5: That should be more.

1384
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 1: If I was a white woman, do you know what

1385
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 1: my name would be? Wealthy Melissa McCarthy, Oh my goodness.

1386
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 1: If I was a white woman, my name Melissa McCarthy,

1387
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 1: same track record, five year sitcom and syndication, same track record.

1388
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 1: The opportunities are not the same. So when you have it,

1389
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 1: and as you read all of those things of me,

1390
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 1: you said, way minute, mo, none of them have this,

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01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 1: None of them have that. We get judged by a

1392
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Speaker 1: different stick. We could judged by different stick. And then

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Speaker 1: when I had people judging me, I'm like, you judging

1394
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:07,679
Speaker 1: me by your yard stick, You've not done what I've done.

1395
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Speaker 1: And I say that humbly. You've not had the accomplishments

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Speaker 1: that I had. When I hear brother Di, y'all will

1397
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:15,799
Speaker 1: huguly say, well that netflix special. I just accepted anything

1398
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 1: whatever they gave me. These are not my words, they're his. Well,

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01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 1: that's how you do business. I'm not mad at you

1400
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 1: accepting anything. Why are you mad at me saying I

1401
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:30,680
Speaker 1: won't accept anything. That's the difference. It's like people were

1402
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:35,599
Speaker 1: judging me. I was having people chanting, Okay, I didn't

1403
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 1: know we had so many tender people in our group.

1404
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:42,680
Speaker 1: I didn't know we had so many tender love. I

1405
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 1: didn't know we had so many tender people, and I

1406
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to be on the front line with these

1407
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 1: tender people where it's like, oh, I can't believe you

1408
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 1: said that. I can't. But it's what I said, the truth.

1409
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 1: It's what I said, the truth. No, I didn't put

1410
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:58,560
Speaker 1: no sugar on it. It was shit right, and I

1411
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:01,559
Speaker 1: didn't try to make it taste good. We gotta stop

1412
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:04,759
Speaker 1: running away from what is real and we run into fantasy.

1413
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 1: And that's how come we keep staying where we sit.

1414
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:08,640
Speaker 5: MO.

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01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 2: Before you became Monique that everybody has seen over the

1416
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 2: last two three decades. What were some of the jobs

1417
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 2: that you had that you was like, Man, this ain't

1418
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 2: for me. I knew this is just a holdover. You're

1419
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 2: just a breeze.

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01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 1: Every job I had, baby, it was special. Wasn't every

1421
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 1: job I had?

1422
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 5: Baby?

1423
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. I worked at the drive

1424
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:31,679
Speaker 1: through in Popeye's. I worked in the drive through in Pope's.

1425
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 1: And that was my microphone. Every time somebody came to

1426
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 1: that window, I was on stage, Welcome to Pope's. My

1427
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 1: name is Monique. What would you like today? And they

1428
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 1: would say, Hey Monique, I'm Shanning. Hey Shanning. How you

1429
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 1: doing baby? What's your order? And you give me your order?

1430
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 1: And then I say, would you like a high apple pie?

1431
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 1: With that's sharing it? You say, you know what? Mo, nigga?

1432
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 1: I sure it was.

1433
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 6: Come on around here, baby, listen here Popeye's win my

1434
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 6: damn money, cause I was a seller.

1435
01:14:57,479 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 1: Baby. If you wanted the two piece, I gave you four.

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01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 1: Hmhm you. We wasn't gonna lose no way coming do

1437
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 1: my damn window.

1438
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 4: Sha.

1439
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 1: That's why I ain't lost no damn weight. What I

1440
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 1: saw like, if you got two pieces? I hate too

1441
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:14,639
Speaker 1: up welcome to by hi baby. Come on now, that

1442
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:16,800
Speaker 1: was that was your microphone.

1443
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 2: That was that was the beginning of Monique because you

1444
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 2: was owning. Did you know that's what you were doing?

1445
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 1: What I knew I was doing was walking in my dream?

1446
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:34,680
Speaker 1: The microphone said it's possible. When I stood in my

1447
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 1: bathroom mirror and I wrapped the towel around me and

1448
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:41,719
Speaker 1: it didn't go all the way, I wasn't devastated. Okay,

1449
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if they just didn't have enough money

1450
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 1: to buy me a whole damn towel, But I would

1451
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 1: still stand and that was my down right and I

1452
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:50,560
Speaker 1: would pick up that brush and I would say, I

1453
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:53,680
Speaker 1: would like to think, so I've always seen it you?

1454
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:56,639
Speaker 5: Did you always know that you were? You? Was Oscar

1455
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 5: always in the back of your mind? Did you always Oscar?

1456
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:00,680
Speaker 1: Was never in my mind?

1457
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 2: You just wanted to be in TV. You wanted to

1458
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 2: be in show business. What asthet did you want to do?

1459
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 1: I wanted to be famous. I loved what it looked

1460
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:15,599
Speaker 1: like with people being famous. I didn't know to say

1461
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 1: I want to be wealthy with the fame. I didn't

1462
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 1: know to be specific to ask for it. But I

1463
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 1: wanted to be famous.

1464
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 5: Who did you know that looked like Monique? That was famous?

1465
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:31,799
Speaker 1: Oprah Winfree? So do you see how far this relationship goes?

1466
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 1: That's who I knew that looked like me. See, I

1467
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 1: didn't when people always asked me about the Oscar right,

1468
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 1: but no one ever asked me about the Image Award.

1469
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 1: No one ever said to me, what did it feel

1470
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:49,679
Speaker 1: like when they called your name for the NAACP Image

1471
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 1: Award And they were people that looked like me? Because

1472
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 1: we put so much weight on that award that we

1473
01:16:56,880 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 1: it's such an honor, and it's an honor for any award,

1474
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 1: not just that one. But as a little girl, I

1475
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 1: never watched the Oscars because nobody looked like me. So

1476
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 1: I was like, this is not for me. Ah. But

1477
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:11,680
Speaker 1: when I watched the Image Award, baby, those people look

1478
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 1: like me. The b T Awards, those people look like me.

1479
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 1: So I was honored the first time they called my

1480
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:21,879
Speaker 1: name for Immage Award. When I tell you, sharnon that night, baby,

1481
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 1: when they can call this little fat girl name from

1482
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 1: Baltimore and the winner goes to the walk goes to Monique,

1483
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:31,759
Speaker 1: Well listen here, I got so good with him calling

1484
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:33,680
Speaker 1: my name and this is what had to humble me.

1485
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 1: You will get humble baby when you just think they

1486
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 1: get ready to call your name. I had wonted like

1487
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 1: three years in a row. This the fourth year.

1488
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:43,759
Speaker 5: Oh he ain't now.

1489
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:50,720
Speaker 1: Name again. Let me situate myself and my chairs. So

1490
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 1: here come the category. Hey baby, the best accress in

1491
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 1: the sitcom. They named me Tisha Campbell, and I cannot

1492
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 1: remember the the sisters, right, I know they get ready

1493
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 1: to say and the award goes to Monique. So I

1494
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 1: got to because I'm a big girl. You got to

1495
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 1: screwed up so you can be ready to push up, right.

1496
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 1: So I screwed up and get my down together. And

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01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 1: the winner is Tea, said Campbell. I said, all right, girl,

1498
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 1: want to get that whole glass? Is that right back down?

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01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 1: But it was never the oscar for me, baby, It

1500
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 1: was never the oscar for me?

1501
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:26,719
Speaker 5: So how did stand up happen?

1502
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 1: Stand up happened? On a dare? My brother came home

1503
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 1: one day and said he went down to the comedy

1504
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 1: club to do open mic night and he did so bad.

1505
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:42,800
Speaker 1: He said they was boring me. But I was six

1506
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 1: beers in, so I thought the booze was applause. So

1507
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:49,719
Speaker 1: my boy had to say, man, this is stinking right.

1508
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 1: So we cleaning out the pool and he says, I said,

1509
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:58,200
Speaker 1: if I was there, I would have said, and that

1510
01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 1: was thirty minutes of what I would have said. Then

1511
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 1: he said, I dare you to go down next Wednesday

1512
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 1: and do open mic night. It was a club called

1513
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 1: Burke's in Baltimore. I went down that next Wednesday, Shennon

1514
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 1: and I got a standing ovation And from that moment

1515
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:13,799
Speaker 1: to this moment, were you hooked?

1516
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 5: I was?

1517
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 1: I was. It is nothing like and I'm sure you

1518
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 1: can appreciate it. Understand when you walk out on that

1519
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 1: football field and you walk and you smell it, and

1520
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:29,680
Speaker 1: you walking into it, and you that little boy and

1521
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 1: you says I'm here. I'm still there. That little girl

1522
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 1: in me is still saying I'm here. But I'm a

1523
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 1: grown woman, right And I'm saying now that I'm here,

1524
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 1: you got to pay for it fairly. If not, I'm good,

1525
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:46,759
Speaker 1: I just have to walk away.

1526
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 5: How much how different is that Monique?

1527
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 2: Not just an age, yes, but how different is that

1528
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 2: Monique to the windness sitting right here on this couch.

1529
01:19:57,200 --> 01:19:59,599
Speaker 1: Oh she grew up?

1530
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 5: That one was naive. Will you have a naive?

1531
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes. When you first come to Hollywood, Shannon

1532
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:16,680
Speaker 1: and I got a show called The Parkers after I

1533
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 1: was in Hollywood less than ninety days, wow, ninety days.

1534
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 1: And you have agents and you have managers and you

1535
01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:31,640
Speaker 1: have attorneys, right, and they're telling you all the good things,

1536
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:36,840
Speaker 1: and anybody. Everybody always said to me, you want to

1537
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 1: get the syndication. Yes, you want to get the syndication.

1538
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:43,679
Speaker 1: Once you get the syndication, you work because you want

1539
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 1: to work, right, right.

1540
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 5: So syndication is what five years, one hundred episode?

1541
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 1: Syndication is one hundred episode, right, So that's all I knew.

1542
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 1: I didn't know to aks to be an executive producer

1543
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:59,679
Speaker 1: of my own image, and nobody told me. I didn't

1544
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:01,640
Speaker 1: know that for that. I didn't know to asks for

1545
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 1: after the third year of being on a successful sitcom

1546
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 1: that you could say, I now need a bonus. I

1547
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:09,519
Speaker 1: didn't know to even negotiate that, and no one told

1548
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:10,559
Speaker 1: me to negotiate that.

1549
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 5: They're definitely not gonna tell you.

1550
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 1: All they kept saying is when you get the syndication,

1551
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 1: When you get the syndication, When you get the syndication, Well,

1552
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:22,720
Speaker 1: three years in The Parkers was in syndication. Now, no

1553
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:25,840
Speaker 1: one told me that you learn it once you open

1554
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 1: your eyes, Because now I'm going around the country doing promos.

1555
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:31,679
Speaker 1: The Parkers is coming on at four o'clock in your city.

1556
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 1: The Parkers will be on at two thirty and Sacramento,

1557
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 1: y'all make sure y'all watch the Parkers that's coming on.

1558
01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 1: I'm not knowing I'm promoting the show in syndication. No

1559
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 1: one told me that. All we're doing is saying, if

1560
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:46,759
Speaker 1: we get to five years. We got to five years,

1561
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:50,599
Speaker 1: one hundred and ten episodes. Me and a beautiful young

1562
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 1: lady named Countess Spahn, who was my baby to this day.

1563
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 1: We had the Laverne and Shirley law right supposed to

1564
01:21:57,200 --> 01:22:00,200
Speaker 1: be equal. Once we got to the five years. Our

1565
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:03,840
Speaker 1: attorney my attorney, and the age is that, oh, the

1566
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 1: Parkers made money. Y'all gonna get paid from the Parkers.

1567
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 1: It's made money. Okay, years go by. By two thousand

1568
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:14,920
Speaker 1: and four, the Parkers we went off the air in

1569
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:18,519
Speaker 1: two thousand and four, right in five years. By two

1570
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 1: thousand and nine, the Parkers had made eight hundred million dollars.

1571
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 7: Oh year, yeah, stay with me, money, money, hey, come on, hey, yay,

1572
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:35,040
Speaker 7: all right, okay, okay, because we're waiting to get that

1573
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:38,840
Speaker 7: money said, oh coming, we.

1574
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 1: Get a call, we got to do an audit, you know,

1575
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 1: and everything. Okay, And that was in two thousand and

1576
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 1: nine that had made eight hundred million. We're now in

1577
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four and they're trying to convince Countess one

1578
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 1: and nine that that show made no money by nomm

1579
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 1: you trying to convince us that a show that costs

1580
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 1: sixty five roughly sixty five million dollars to make and

1581
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 1: our last year of shooting The Parkers counts Vaughan and

1582
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 1: I made fifty five thousand dollars apiece.

1583
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 5: That's it. How about you? Were you making an episode.

1584
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:20,559
Speaker 1: Fifty five thousand dollars an episodes?

1585
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 5: Okay? So how many episodes.

1586
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:26,439
Speaker 1: Were five years? That last year we shot twenty two episodes? Okay,

1587
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 1: we made fifty five thousand dollars a piece at the

1588
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:31,680
Speaker 1: end of a top rated.

1589
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 2: Sit holdo, Hold on Time, on Time, Are you saying

1590
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 2: you made fifty five thousand for twenty two episodes? Are

1591
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 2: you saying you made fifty five thousand per episode?

1592
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 5: Because I want to make sure I've hearing you.

1593
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 1: Let me make sure you hear me correctly. We did

1594
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 1: twenty two episode. Yes, we were pay fifty five thousand

1595
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 1: dollars per episode. Okay for twenty two shows. Okay, Okay,

1596
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:57,559
Speaker 1: that's on a hit show that is unheard of. Yeah,

1597
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 1: because we're two black women, I don't know to fight

1598
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:04,760
Speaker 1: for it. Countless as young, countless as a baby in

1599
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 1: this business. So I don't know to say that we.

1600
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 2: Should have been making a thousand, one hundred and fifty

1601
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:11,800
Speaker 2: two hundred thousand of an episode.

1602
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 1: So now today, y'all want to convince us that that

1603
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 1: show made no money. That show has made over two

1604
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 1: billion dollars, and I'm guesstimating, and you want to convince

1605
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:29,200
Speaker 1: us that our percentage we make no money. We can't

1606
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 1: allow that to happen. That's why we're fighting. That's why

1607
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 1: we're saying no, no, guys, we can't sit on our

1608
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:37,680
Speaker 1: hands like that. You know how many of us when

1609
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 1: you watch Good Times, when you watch the Jeffersons, when

1610
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:43,120
Speaker 1: you watch Sam for and the Son whose family is

1611
01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:48,959
Speaker 1: benefiting from our images? Because the damn show ain't ours. Wow,

1612
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:51,440
Speaker 1: You see why I fight the way I fight? Yeah,

1613
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:54,000
Speaker 1: because if it does not make sense. You have to

1614
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:56,600
Speaker 1: explain it, and I'll go back to Tyler Perry. You

1615
01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 1: know why, Tyler Perry don't want to talk to my

1616
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 1: husband because he can't talk around him. My husband don't

1617
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 1: care nothing about that man's money. We don't care nothing

1618
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:05,680
Speaker 1: about your title. We care about your character, brother, We

1619
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 1: care about your intention.

1620
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 5: What you're gonna pay? What what you what you're gonna pay?

1621
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 1: How you gonna make it right? How are you gonna

1622
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 1: make it right? Because if I am your aunt, Mary,

1623
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:18,400
Speaker 1: and I really belonged to you as I really belong

1624
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,559
Speaker 1: to you right now, Shannon, I am your sister and

1625
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 1: you heard something that was wrong.

1626
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 5: How how can Tyler Perry make it right?

1627
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 2: MO? Give you a job, give you your s give

1628
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:31,200
Speaker 2: you a sitcom?

1629
01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:32,599
Speaker 5: Say more, okay, you know what? More?

1630
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 2: Sitcom? You're gonna be the executive producer. I'm gonna be

1631
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 2: a co executive producer. You're gonna do the sitcom.

1632
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 1: If somebody cost you, Shannon Sharp, millions of dollars, yes,

1633
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 1: do you want to be compensated for what they cost

1634
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 1: you for a lie and a rumor? Yeah? So at

1635
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 1: that time I was making rougher between two and three

1636
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 1: million dollars. A year, right, I set in that for

1637
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 1: over twelve for over a decade, like twelve years. You

1638
01:25:56,120 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 1: do the math over a lie that he admitted it,

1639
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:03,559
Speaker 1: that he told now something I'm making up. You admit

1640
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 1: it that brother? How do you make that right?

1641
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 5: You got I'm sure you got lawyers? Have you had

1642
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:10,560
Speaker 5: a conversation?

1643
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 1: Well, what happens is when you take somebody at their word, time,

1644
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:20,200
Speaker 1: time time. We don't need to go to no lawyers, taler,

1645
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 1: you know what you did. Just make it right. And

1646
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 1: if he doesn't make it right, what will our community do?

1647
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:30,640
Speaker 1: What will our community say? Because today it's me, tomorrow's you.

1648
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:34,840
Speaker 1: Then what we've got to hold him accountable? What?

1649
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:34,640
Speaker 5: What?

1650
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:37,640
Speaker 1: What? What? Cats say? We got to you got to

1651
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 1: tell Tyler Perry, come on, now you do it? Said

1652
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:42,599
Speaker 1: you got to tell.

1653
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 5: Him, You got to tell it.

1654
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 2: This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two

1655
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:49,759
Speaker 2: is also posted and you can access it to whichever

1656
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 2: podcast platform you just listen to part one on. Just

1657
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 2: simply go back to Club Sha profile and I'll see

1658
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 2: you there.