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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Greg Rosenthal, and I'm surrounded in a
Speaker 1: city filled with heroes. Patrick Claibon, Colleen Wolf, Ricky Hollywood,
Speaker 1: and our special guest today, Mina Kimes. Wow, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you. Just feels like when um verified Twitter got
Speaker 1: canceled briefly and everybody was running wild. That's what today
Speaker 1: feels like to me. All you guys were blocked, I
Speaker 1: was on free, I was treated crazy yesterday. It was
Speaker 1: it was like it was the best day ever. It
Speaker 1: is a motley crew I've assembled here. If you didn't
Speaker 1: tune into Monday's show, Mark and Dan are off this week.
Speaker 1: They will be back on Monday and we'll start cranking
Speaker 1: up for the season. West of course, started treatment this week.
Speaker 1: He I know he did want to pass along UM.
Speaker 1: He appreciated all the all the well wishes that he's
Speaker 1: been getting on Instagram and Twitter and everything else, and
Speaker 1: I think he's happy to to get the process going.
Speaker 1: So of course our love goes out to him. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that the Twitter black I must have been tough. I
Speaker 1: feel like, especially for for Patrick, and you guys are
Speaker 1: all high volume, high quality. You would definitely get votes
Speaker 1: in like a Twitter m v P situation, both of you. Um,
Speaker 1: But I just feel like that would have been a
Speaker 1: couple of tough hours for you guys more than anyone it.
Speaker 1: I just went back and retweeted as many tweets of
Speaker 1: my own that I could find that were relevant to
Speaker 1: the situation about being verified. I didn't know what to
Speaker 1: do because I like tweet, I mean, and I'm not
Speaker 1: the only person out there that likes Twitter. You definitely
Speaker 1: high volume. Patrick was like one of the most fearless
Speaker 1: tweeters out there. I mean, you shoot from the hip
Speaker 1: and I appreciate it and doesn't always land it does
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, definitely. You came on my podcast,
Speaker 1: The Menicime Show featuring Lenny check it Out, and I
Speaker 1: believe Lenny roasted you specifically for a couple of tweets
Speaker 1: you had that had like wanted to like, but you
Speaker 1: kept them up there. You didn't think Leny Lenny tweets
Speaker 1: more than I do. Letty's got a big social My
Speaker 1: favorite years, Patrick are the ones with almost no response
Speaker 1: and I and sometimes I don't even respond anywhere but
Speaker 1: just no, I'm somewhere reading them and thinking, I'm glad
Speaker 1: you tweeted that. Well, in my defense, right, the next
Speaker 1: time everybody gets locked out and you can't actually tweet
Speaker 1: and all you can do is retweet, I have a
Speaker 1: bigger catalog of tweets to pick out from that I
Speaker 1: can when we're being silenced because the world is hacked.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah we're I feel like, yeah it was,
Speaker 1: it wasn't tough on you. Is the same way she
Speaker 1: you know, she needs it to live, needs it to feel.
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I did pay Spencer Hall
Speaker 1: at E D B S. Every day should be whatever
Speaker 1: that is to tweet. The PAC twelve is underrated and
Speaker 1: deserves more respects, and I don't. I don't regret it.
Speaker 1: I don't regret it at all. So yeah, this is
Speaker 1: a motley crewe. I UM, I apologize to all of you,
Speaker 1: you know, assembling them a group of friends really that
Speaker 1: work extremely hard, especially during this pandemic, for giving you
Speaker 1: like more work to do. Um. This week, Colleen has
Speaker 1: been on t a week after week, min has got
Speaker 1: a million shows. Patrick is uh Patrick is cranking along
Speaker 1: and normally like you know the kind of the focus
Speaker 1: would be on Mina. She's like the guest of honor here.
Speaker 1: But Mina, you you happen to drop in for what
Speaker 1: is kind of like a really big show for Colleen.
Speaker 1: I mean, she she knows it, she feels it. She
Speaker 1: hasn't been able to be on the podcast a lot
Speaker 1: this summer. She used to be on like weekly in
Speaker 1: the summers, but she's been so busy. She's feeling the
Speaker 1: heat from Claybonn, who's kind of slipping in there as
Speaker 1: like you know, the fifth you know regular here. And
Speaker 1: then also she came prepared with multiple segments. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: it's like you came with multiple segment ideas, which I love,
Speaker 1: Like it's you're taking the next step. You can never
Speaker 1: really understand the segments that we're doing, so you decided
Speaker 1: to make up two of your own. But that puts
Speaker 1: like a lot of pressure on it on you. True,
Speaker 1: this is what happens when you're on vacation. I feel
Speaker 1: like when you're on vacation, you get a chance to relax.
Speaker 1: Obviously that's what I've been doing this week and really
Speaker 1: just kind of go through the different ideas that you
Speaker 1: haven't had a chance to use yet so I dumped
Speaker 1: them all on a t N. Right, Well, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have a little show and tell to end the show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that used to be the name of a strip club
Speaker 1: around the corner from our house and Philly, and then
Speaker 1: I don't remember. I think it was just the outline
Speaker 1: of a girl. I don't know. That's every strip club
Speaker 1: is the outline of a girl. What does the strict
Speaker 1: club that doesn't have the outline of a woman's silhouette
Speaker 1: as their logo? Well, you know there's been I remember
Speaker 1: the booby Trap. What a name? What a name? Um? Yeah,
Speaker 1: when I was in college, I think the local club,
Speaker 1: or maybe it was in high school because it was
Speaker 1: at a reservation and it was the Blue move m.
Speaker 1: Colleen isn't just coming like with one segment she we
Speaker 1: we even got a little halftime break. We're gonna do
Speaker 1: in the middle of the news. What are we calling this?
Speaker 1: I think depressing parts of Colleen's summer repressing pandemic. Actually,
Speaker 1: I talked to I talked to Patrick about this yesterday.
Speaker 1: Just one of the one of the things I like
Speaker 1: to do. Now, Well, you're you're moving, you're in the
Speaker 1: process of moving. We appreciate you know, he's showing up.
Speaker 1: We appreciate me to making it. She had some sales
Speaker 1: called she she did not throw up before this podcast
Speaker 1: like she did before the last one. So I think
Speaker 1: we're all ready to go, Ricky, let's do some news. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I thought you were joking when you said that, because
Speaker 1: UM ended the year at the seventy seven. But I
Speaker 1: can't really say everything I want to say on the
Speaker 1: air right now. But it's kind of a kind of
Speaker 1: taking disrespect. But it is what it is. That's Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray pretending he's not upset, Like, why can't you say
Speaker 1: that on the air? You can't talk trash about Madden
Speaker 1: ratings on the air. He just doesn't want an article, right,
Speaker 1: he doesn't want an article about it. I just I
Speaker 1: just like ending with it is what it is, which
Speaker 1: is the Indian statement, like it triggers me so much.
Speaker 1: I hate it. It is what it is. Yeah, Right,
Speaker 1: if your husband and wife says that you're so screwed, um,
Speaker 1: let this letter for net. Once asked to be taken
Speaker 1: out of the game because he needed his ratings so much,
Speaker 1: is that right? Yeah? And they didn't take him out
Speaker 1: of the game. And I suspect his rating has gone
Speaker 1: down since. Pologies to Mr Burnett, but that was an
Speaker 1: all time mad at Baden moment. Madden rating season always
Speaker 1: makes me feel old because like, the last time I
Speaker 1: regularly played was was college, just like the turn of
Speaker 1: the century, and so I have nothing to offer with
Speaker 1: these conversations. I do wonder, though, what where Derrick Henry
Speaker 1: is rated? Uh in that game? Because he is a
Speaker 1: guy who just got paid um pretty big money four years,
Speaker 1: fifty million dollars twenty five I believe guaranteed in the
Speaker 1: first couple of years without really being able to do
Speaker 1: much on passing downs. The Titans are one of the
Speaker 1: first teams in the last few years to like build
Speaker 1: around their running back. This, of course, um got everyone
Speaker 1: tired of the same arguments on Twitter. Patrick Clavon, You're
Speaker 1: you're shaking your head, you know most you know aggressively,
Speaker 1: So why don't you stay Uh yeah, I mean we
Speaker 1: talked about my love for Twitter. Derrick Harry got paid
Speaker 1: and I just kind of closed the window. I was like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, just go have these conversations with the people
Speaker 1: that want to I guess in a meadow or on
Speaker 1: a beach, like a running back got paid. We've been
Speaker 1: here before and I don't want to go again. I
Speaker 1: just well with that enthusiastic lead. And should I offer
Speaker 1: some analysis, you can still do it. But this one, no,
Speaker 1: This one is different though, because the contract is kind
Speaker 1: of fine, and I'm I'm on the you know, don't
Speaker 1: pay running backs a lot of money over many years train.
Speaker 1: Obviously we don't have to litigate that. Um. And if
Speaker 1: you pay attention to any statistics, you should be on
Speaker 1: that train. But um, it's basically a two year deal.
Speaker 1: It's equivalent to to franchise tags if they tagged him again, um,
Speaker 1: and then the Titans can get out of it. Derrick
Speaker 1: Henry's twenty six, He's coming off of season, and when
Speaker 1: you carried the football three hundred and three times, which
Speaker 1: we know what happens to running backs historically when they
Speaker 1: carry it over three times. But ultimately for the Titans, like,
Speaker 1: this isn't a death knell in the way I think
Speaker 1: some of the other recent contracts have been for back
Speaker 1: some and I feel like I have to add this
Speaker 1: caveat Morley. I'm happy for Derrick Henry. This is good
Speaker 1: for him, but it's also not catastrophic for the type
Speaker 1: that's the new thing. Like, hey, I'm happy for him
Speaker 1: as a person and then just like waits for because
Speaker 1: people take his so personally and I always say back,
Speaker 1: I'm not arguing for no one to get paid that.
Speaker 1: It's a hard cap league. Pay your left guard, pay
Speaker 1: your you know, will I I don't care. Just don't
Speaker 1: pay running back many years. I mean it makes sense
Speaker 1: obviously though for him too. If you consider the running
Speaker 1: back free agent market next year, all of the names
Speaker 1: that are going to be out there, like Kimara and
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook and Aaron Jones and Leonard Cornette. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, like these are guys that the fact that
Speaker 1: that Derrick Henry did what he did last year, he
Speaker 1: was the catalyst for like their second half success, everything
Speaker 1: that he did in the playoffs, and with the amount
Speaker 1: of times that he carries the ball, and with his
Speaker 1: style just being a bruising back, the fact that he's
Speaker 1: only missed two games in his four seasons. I mean,
Speaker 1: he deserves it. He deserves it, and we all said,
Speaker 1: you know, they kind of have to run it back.
Speaker 1: The Tannehill contract was a much bigger risk than than
Speaker 1: signing Derrick Henry. I think you kind of had to
Speaker 1: sign Tannehill. But they gave Tannehill a ton of money
Speaker 1: for three years when they didn't really have to and
Speaker 1: and you said it me. And they only gave one
Speaker 1: extra year here for Derrick Henry, so they basically guaranteed
Speaker 1: him twenty one. They were they were obviously going to
Speaker 1: pay him this year. That that's fine. You know, they
Speaker 1: may run him into the ground DeMarco Murray style, Like
Speaker 1: there are just not many examples of a guy running
Speaker 1: the ball eighty three times in three playoff games, and
Speaker 1: like what happens after that? And they are definitely zigging
Speaker 1: when when everyone is zagging in terms of being a
Speaker 1: you know, building around the running game. But Tanna Hills
Speaker 1: like the more fascinating guy to me that I like,
Speaker 1: I have no idea what he's gonna do this year
Speaker 1: and he could go back to being totally average and
Speaker 1: that wouldn't be that surprising to me. Come on, no
Speaker 1: one wants to jump in on Tannahill. Yeah, I appreciate,
Speaker 1: I mean, looking what especially like a J Brown down
Speaker 1: the stretch right. He averaged fifty fifteen and a half
Speaker 1: yards per target in the last six games, which is
Speaker 1: like it's bananas um and I'm I'm glad Ryan got
Speaker 1: his money. I would have liked look like, I definitely
Speaker 1: understand about paying running backs and wanted to structure your
Speaker 1: team in a way that you can have long term success.
Speaker 1: I just wish that there were there was a way
Speaker 1: for these guys who are required to play in college
Speaker 1: for three years and then come into a league where
Speaker 1: they're not eligible to have a contract for sometimes five years.
Speaker 1: I just wish there was a way, especially for that position,
Speaker 1: for them to get some at some point before there
Speaker 1: unable to do so. I thought maybe no, no contracts
Speaker 1: were gonna happen with all of these franchise tag guys.
Speaker 1: There was there were fifteen of them if you include
Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake who was transition tag, and two of them
Speaker 1: did get paid, and we'll get to the guys who
Speaker 1: didn't get paid. But I do keep thinking about, like
Speaker 1: every contract that's being done right now, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of analysis that's like, well, that's a good deal in
Speaker 1: you know, because of this, or that's a good deal
Speaker 1: because of that, or hey, when the TV money comes
Speaker 1: in next year, it's like, are we sure that TV
Speaker 1: money is coming in? We sure? We sure? Any money
Speaker 1: is coming in, Like, are are we really that confident
Speaker 1: in like making analysis on the salary cap based on
Speaker 1: any past precedent when we are in a world that
Speaker 1: is totally without precedent football wise, of course, but financially
Speaker 1: into the future. I think everyone should just take if
Speaker 1: you can get money right now, like, take it, take it,
Speaker 1: because who knows what's gonna happen around door, you know,
Speaker 1: dooring number two. Well, so along those lines, I don't
Speaker 1: I hope I'm not skipping ahead. I guess I probably
Speaker 1: am to a Dak Prescott conversation. But now that's next,
Speaker 1: let's do it, Okay, I mean, is there a sound
Speaker 1: effect or can I just jump right in? Go ahead?
Speaker 1: Doctor hosting and producing the show, and I'm so here
Speaker 1: for it. Sound effect? It sounded like you were throwing up,
Speaker 1: much like I did in a gas station bathroom on
Speaker 1: my way to my last around the na Um. Honestly,
Speaker 1: you can just play that sound effect every time I
Speaker 1: can go on. Yeah, okay, thanks, um. Yeah. Well, so
Speaker 1: my colleague Bill Barnwell had a really good point kind
Speaker 1: of cutting to what you said, Greg about the contract,
Speaker 1: which is so Dallas has put themselves in a position
Speaker 1: where if they want to keep him, and I believe
Speaker 1: it's they probably will based on that offense and what
Speaker 1: I expect of, It's gonna be very hard to walk
Speaker 1: away from Dak Prescott. They are, I said, highly questionable today.
Speaker 1: I'm worried I used it wrong. But they might be
Speaker 1: hoisted by their own patar. I don't know. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I hope it's not a lot of
Speaker 1: petard out there in these days, but yeah, that petard
Speaker 1: being okay? That uh, if Dak Prescott is successful, they
Speaker 1: will be a victim of that success, right, because they're
Speaker 1: gonna have to pay him the thirty seven million. But
Speaker 1: Barnwell pointed out if the cap doesn't go up, that
Speaker 1: thirty seven million as a percentage of the gap is
Speaker 1: a lot of money, right, and that they're putting themselves
Speaker 1: in a really whereas if they had a longer team deal,
Speaker 1: they could play with the money and restructure it and
Speaker 1: move it around. So that's from the Cowboys perspective. But
Speaker 1: do you believe because you were just saying, you know,
Speaker 1: if you should take money right now if you can
Speaker 1: get it, that Dak Prescott aired in any way by
Speaker 1: not taking whatever it was you know, thirty three times
Speaker 1: five or I think that was the last rumor about that.
Speaker 1: I don't fall any player or agent, you know, who's
Speaker 1: certainly part of this for making the money decisions. Everyone
Speaker 1: has different priorities of if they want the long term security,
Speaker 1: let's say, right now, or they want to bet on
Speaker 1: the future. I don't necessarily believe like a lot of
Speaker 1: the last minute you know stories that come out in
Speaker 1: the media, it's like, oh, it got really close at
Speaker 1: the last second, or even or even what the terms
Speaker 1: are that we're hearing, or the Cowboys don't sign four
Speaker 1: year contracts, like I'm sure they're saying that, but if
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott accepted a four year, thirty two million dollar contract,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't sign it. I don't really buy any of that.
Speaker 1: Sodac is betting on an uncertain future, and if you
Speaker 1: look at the past, he's in the right because ultimately
Speaker 1: the Cowboys would have been saving money and better off
Speaker 1: if they signed Dak Prescott last year, if they signed
Speaker 1: him when Carson Wentz and Jared Goff, that would have
Speaker 1: been the best time to sign him. The next best
Speaker 1: time to sign him would have been this year. And
Speaker 1: I think the worst time to sign him, assuming they
Speaker 1: want to sign him, you know, is going to be
Speaker 1: next year. And I do assume that they want to
Speaker 1: sign him. But Colleen, it does feel like there's some
Speaker 1: there's something just like a little bit weird going on.
Speaker 1: When you hear the the talk that it's like, well,
Speaker 1: this gives him another year of evaluation, It's like, what
Speaker 1: more evaluation? Well, I feel like, obviously it works out
Speaker 1: great for Dak. I feel like the Cowboys are losers
Speaker 1: in this situation because Dak's value is only going to
Speaker 1: go up, I mean, unless he gets hurt. But I
Speaker 1: feel like it's different this year. Well it's always different
Speaker 1: for quarterbacks, but especially this year. And we were just
Speaker 1: talking about, like, if you can get any money, just
Speaker 1: take it right now because of all of the uncertainty
Speaker 1: and the pandemic and everything else. But in DA's case,
Speaker 1: the longer he waits, the more likely he's going to
Speaker 1: get the deal that he's actually shooting for, whether it's
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys or whether it's with a different team. Eventually,
Speaker 1: it is taking thirty one million dollars to which is
Speaker 1: you know, to be clear, you know, seven times the
Speaker 1: amount of money he's made in the first four years,
Speaker 1: so that that that will change his life. Did you
Speaker 1: see Patrick Tad Prescott's Okay, I just want to jump
Speaker 1: in here. His name is Dakota Rain Prescott and his
Speaker 1: brother is Tad. Yeah, that's tough. What going on? Just out? Yeah,
Speaker 1: You're like, why can't I be to go to Rain?
Speaker 1: I'm Tad? Like right there, they pretty much set up
Speaker 1: who is going to be the NFL quarterback and who
Speaker 1: is going to be tweeting with like no punctuation. But
Speaker 1: I mean in terms of, like, since Rain Dakota is
Speaker 1: sitting there watching Jared Um and Jared's contract, I always
Speaker 1: looked at that as kind of okay, so Golf's contract happened,
Speaker 1: A considerable amount of time has passed since then, and
Speaker 1: Dad has to look at that as like a floor, right,
Speaker 1: And I don't know if we're in a world where
Speaker 1: the Cowboys go into the Super Bowl and score three points,
Speaker 1: where we would look at, oh, yeah, well you gotta
Speaker 1: pay dak Prescott if that happened. Um, so that comes
Speaker 1: into this and sure he's he's going to take a risk,
Speaker 1: But I just I legitimately wondered, do the Cowboys want
Speaker 1: Deck as their quarterback. I think it's a fair thing
Speaker 1: to ask, because it's the most it seems crazy, but
Speaker 1: the most you know, easy comparison is to Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: in Washington, and of course that has a higher ceiling
Speaker 1: than kirk Cousins did and does, and I think has
Speaker 1: played at a higher level then Kirk Cousins had at
Speaker 1: any point in Washington really, but I feel like if
Speaker 1: they super wanted him, then the contract would be signed.
Speaker 1: That's like the little thing under the radar here. It
Speaker 1: feels like they're they're betting on him to not be successful,
Speaker 1: which is a weird thing to have your quarterback in
Speaker 1: you and it's like, well, you know, maybe if you're
Speaker 1: not successful, then we'll only give you twenty eight million
Speaker 1: a year. And it's all about it. And if he
Speaker 1: is successful, what will happen By the rumpus k Cousins
Speaker 1: references instructive, not only because that seems to be the
Speaker 1: past that he's headed down, but I think, similarly to
Speaker 1: kirk Cousins, um he has. I think you're absolutely right
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys don't view him the way a lot
Speaker 1: of the rest of us seem to. And I firmly
Speaker 1: believe that if Dak Prescott was draft in the first round,
Speaker 1: none of this would have happened. He would have a contract.
Speaker 1: I've seen this so many times the NFL, as with cousins.
Speaker 1: Where you are drafted affects the way teams per thieview
Speaker 1: for the rest of your career. I didn't love him
Speaker 1: that much then, like Connor clock more than him. Paxton
Speaker 1: Lynch me, I would take that money. I I, well,
Speaker 1: who knows, you can't put yourself in those shoes, But
Speaker 1: in this time, I would just you just like right now.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I'm more freaked out than everyone, but like
Speaker 1: I would just like I would just I would take it.
Speaker 1: It's like Colleen is packing up, she's moving, she's moving
Speaker 1: out of Santa Monica. She's using this time right now
Speaker 1: to just like lock down her long term security, get
Speaker 1: a good deal on a place I'm hoping, and and move.
Speaker 1: Maybe this is not a good comparison, maybe it's not
Speaker 1: behind you are very distracting. Let me just ask you
Speaker 1: guys this. I think the Cowboys are going to be
Speaker 1: a top five offense. Do you agree? Yeah? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: They have everything that they need for that to happen.
Speaker 1: Dak has everything at his disposal. So there's really no
Speaker 1: reason that the Cowboys should be doubting him at all
Speaker 1: because they set him up perfectly to seria. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So when he's doing this risk calculus, he knows, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he doesn't know if he's going to break his leg
Speaker 1: knock on, you know, but and he doesn't know what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen with the cap, but he knows he has
Speaker 1: weapons in an offensive line. Like you know, he the
Speaker 1: information he's equipped with suggests that he should take a
Speaker 1: bet on this season. Yeah, that that's true, and unlike
Speaker 1: you know me, like he can have a little more
Speaker 1: confidence that he'll be like gainfully employed for for a
Speaker 1: few more years. So that has to feel good. I
Speaker 1: I do want to mention the guys who did not
Speaker 1: get signed because there are a lot of them. Um,
Speaker 1: just if anyone stands out to any of you, Let's
Speaker 1: start with Patrick A, Justin Simmons, Shack, Barrett, Brandon Schurff,
Speaker 1: Leonard Williams, A. J. Green, Joe Tuny, Anthony Harris Hunter,
Speaker 1: Henry bud Dupree, Kenyan Drake, Matthew, Judean, Yannick and go Way.
Speaker 1: I mean the free agent class next year should be loaded.
Speaker 1: That's one thing, um and I will just throw out
Speaker 1: to start and then I'll go to you. Patrick as
Speaker 1: the Leonard Williams one is fascinating to me because it's
Speaker 1: like Leonard Williams would have never made the money that
Speaker 1: he's going to make from the Giants if he got
Speaker 1: the free agency. He never would have been kept if
Speaker 1: Dave Gentleman hadn't traded for him. And like Leonard Williams
Speaker 1: is almost like a last stand for a way of
Speaker 1: life for Dave Gettlman, Like he believes in these big
Speaker 1: space eating defensive lineman and he has Dexter Lawrence and
Speaker 1: he has Dalvin Thomlinson. It's like and if this doesn't work,
Speaker 1: if their defense doesn't work, and it's like none of
Speaker 1: them are going to be back there next year. Dave
Speaker 1: loves the hog Molly's I love. I used to love
Speaker 1: the idea of because it was a thing that it
Speaker 1: was a trope that was always like, oh, this guy's
Speaker 1: going to a contract year, so he's gonna try extra hard, right,
Speaker 1: but Jacque going into a contractor he led the league
Speaker 1: in sex and like I would be get a deal done,
Speaker 1: and it's just like it made It makes me think,
Speaker 1: like Derrick Henry goes up to the to the last
Speaker 1: second to get one and it's like, well, like what
Speaker 1: is this tag really for? Um? Because these guys have
Speaker 1: done all that they're supposed to do and you'd like
Speaker 1: to have you have an opportunity to to get a
Speaker 1: long term deal, and so I just I just don't
Speaker 1: know what more Shack Barrett could have done. I'm looking
Speaker 1: forward to see the Buck defense. I think it's like
Speaker 1: it's basically to keep players, you know, It's I was
Speaker 1: surprised that it didn't change more on the last c
Speaker 1: b A because it's just to keep keep players an
Speaker 1: extra year or two that you don't want to pay
Speaker 1: what the market will pay. And that's what happened with
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys. Joe Tuney really stands out.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's ever going to get that money
Speaker 1: from the Patriots, but they didn't want him to go
Speaker 1: to the Jets. One guy that did get paid though
Speaker 1: this week and we are going to go through all
Speaker 1: the contracts. But the biggest surprise to me was Chris
Speaker 1: Jones getting that deal Colleen after they signed Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 1: which which proves one of my one of my favorite
Speaker 1: truisms about the NFL that the salary cap does not
Speaker 1: really matter that people using the salary cap as an excuse.
Speaker 1: You can always find ways around it if you really
Speaker 1: want to, and Brett Beach did this offseason. I'm just
Speaker 1: really happy that Katie Camlin of Plaza Liquor Media was
Speaker 1: able to break the news to everybody again like that,
Speaker 1: I think was really the gem of this story. And
Speaker 1: they did a whole video with production value and everything else,
Speaker 1: and you know what, I loved it because not a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff makes me smile these days, So if
Speaker 1: anything makes me crack a little bit of a smile,
Speaker 1: I'm all the way in on it. But Chris Jones, like,
Speaker 1: obviously he deserved that, and now he's out here making
Speaker 1: a ton of promises like he's gonna bring more championships,
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year. But he really does such
Speaker 1: a good job of pressuring from the inside from that position,
Speaker 1: he's just I think that he deserves every penny of
Speaker 1: what he was paid in that deal. How about those
Speaker 1: curls from Gonzo John Gonzoaz your husband you're putting out
Speaker 1: there social that's gonna be making you smile. Maybe jealous
Speaker 1: dropped the routine. Got to live with him, all right,
Speaker 1: I know, like I mean his colonels all the time.
Speaker 1: I'm like trying to live up to the curls. But uh,
Speaker 1: you know, it's hard. It's a tough job. The Chiefs
Speaker 1: are enjoying their victory lap to to to jump off
Speaker 1: what you actually talked about. Sorry for Jamie. They are enjoying.
Speaker 1: It's like, shouldn't they love it? I love it, fans,
Speaker 1: they're celebrating. Mahomes is celebrating, Chris Jones is celebrating, Like
Speaker 1: do you think this all works? Me? Um, Well, they're
Speaker 1: the short answers. They have Patrick Mahomes, so they're fine. Right,
Speaker 1: Like we were just talking about, we were ranking all
Speaker 1: the different offenses defenses last year, Chiefs finished about the
Speaker 1: middle of the pack, which is a credit to some
Speaker 1: of the work that Steve Spagnolo did, especially with that
Speaker 1: secondary of thing. But ultimately, L O L nothing matters.
Speaker 1: If you have Patrick Mahomes, you just need like an
Speaker 1: average defense to be fine. They are headed towards the
Speaker 1: very stars and scrubs roster. I know I agree with
Speaker 1: you that concerns about the cat tend to be overrated,
Speaker 1: but they will. You know, they've got a Kid Kelsey
Speaker 1: deal looming a probably after that's going to go up
Speaker 1: towards to someone that they have to pay. But um,
Speaker 1: Brett Beach has also done a really good job drafting,
Speaker 1: which is you have to draft and develop and have
Speaker 1: some of those hit to have a scar Stars and
Speaker 1: scrubs roster. Right like wan Thornhill, the young safety looks great.
Speaker 1: Um found it quite a fine in Travarious Ward too,
Speaker 1: So I'm not worried about the Chiefs. I think all
Speaker 1: the dynasty talk is completely validated. And to Colleen's point
Speaker 1: about Chris Jones and his like unique skill set and
Speaker 1: probably the second best interior past rush in the NFL
Speaker 1: behind Donald, that's more important than it's ever been in
Speaker 1: this league. We saw that, so I thought it was
Speaker 1: kind of a no brainer for them. Uh, fans are
Speaker 1: so lucky. Man look better. He makes whatever defensive end
Speaker 1: they stick over there opposite Frank Clark and Jones always
Speaker 1: looks better. I mean that you can say that way.
Speaker 1: I think they have talk with Charlton. Now. That was
Speaker 1: one of those when you go roster by roster and
Speaker 1: you're like, huh, okay, likes, who's gonna try hard? Now?
Speaker 1: I remember taco Charlton is going to try how now
Speaker 1: articles so that jumped out, wait wait waits or like
Speaker 1: what that? Because I think it was Taco, I honestly do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like during my time, I have to look for
Speaker 1: the quote, but yeah, I haven't wasn't motivated. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: now now the fire burns within. Um, you can make
Speaker 1: a lot of people. Did I felt this way? You know,
Speaker 1: of course Patrick Mahomes causes the world to explode, but
Speaker 1: you can make the argument that Chris Jones was the
Speaker 1: m v P of the Super Bowl and to to
Speaker 1: see Mahomes is there, we go validated to see Mahomes
Speaker 1: um who told like we we interviewed him on Total
Speaker 1: Access the last Friday to Fridays, I don't know, days
Speaker 1: don't really mean anything anymore. And he talked about the
Speaker 1: way that he wanted to structure this deal. And Chris
Speaker 1: Jones honestly is making more money than Patrick Mahomes right now.
Speaker 1: Ma homes is gonna have to wait for the lion's
Speaker 1: share of his pay day. But he wanted this to
Speaker 1: preserve this championship window that they have and they'll they'll
Speaker 1: do that with the with the talent that they have
Speaker 1: that they're able to keep for now. Um, but in
Speaker 1: terms of keeping this defense, which was able to play
Speaker 1: to the level that they needed them to play, this
Speaker 1: is this is huge and the windows, the windows all
Speaker 1: the way open, and I'm glad he gets his money.
Speaker 1: I do wish we could call him the highest paid
Speaker 1: player on the Chiefs. It's weird that we insist that
Speaker 1: homes is the highest paid. Yeah, I mean, you've got
Speaker 1: a microphone, you're on it right now. I mean, let's
Speaker 1: where many people get their money to call them the
Speaker 1: highest paid. Let's let's do that. The money comes in
Speaker 1: their bank account and let's do it. Let's go. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's their defense. Could has room to get a lot better,
Speaker 1: because it really weren't that great. They're terrible against around,
Speaker 1: they're pretty good, um against the past, and you would
Speaker 1: think actually have room to get better. Spagnola did a
Speaker 1: good job at the end of last year. But really
Speaker 1: we're just kind of killing time right now. I hope
Speaker 1: Ricky you are ready, because we've just been kind of
Speaker 1: talking until we get to my favorite part of the
Speaker 1: show or what I'm expecting to be my favorite part
Speaker 1: of the show, which is our which is our halftime
Speaker 1: break of the news. And it's a little something that
Speaker 1: we like to call and give it a second Colleen,
Speaker 1: Colleen most depressing pandemic activity to Okay, so this is
Speaker 1: my favorite depressing pandemic activity to do these days. Um.
Speaker 1: Because I have a lot of pictures on my phone.
Speaker 1: I'd never delete any photos at all, so I have screenshots.
Speaker 1: I have everything on my phone. Uh, and I like
Speaker 1: to go into my photo album and search on this
Speaker 1: day last year, what was doing as a normal, semi
Speaker 1: normal functioning human in the world. So it's something that
Speaker 1: you all can do. We can all play this depressing
Speaker 1: game together. And Um, as it turns out, I looked
Speaker 1: this morning that on this day last year, I this
Speaker 1: is not this was not a plan to like humble
Speaker 1: brag at all, I swear, but just so happens to
Speaker 1: be the day that last year I accidentally went to Palestine. Um.
Speaker 1: I was in Israel with Sean and our two friends
Speaker 1: and we went to Jerusalem and we were like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: like beth Lehem is right around the corner, should we go,
Speaker 1: and like check out that the church where Jesus was
Speaker 1: born so we're like, yeah, cool, let's do that today.
Speaker 1: And so we like we literally got in the car
Speaker 1: and typed in weights uh beth Lehem Nativity Church. And
Speaker 1: you know, I guess I should have probably figured out
Speaker 1: that it wasn't the smartest idea when Ways popped up
Speaker 1: a warning that said high risk or illegal area. Do
Speaker 1: you confirm drive? And we were like, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it's a it's Batalham, it should be fun. Tourists go
Speaker 1: there all the time. So we drove our rental car
Speaker 1: with Israeli plates into Palestine, um, which Israelis are not
Speaker 1: supposed to go there. And um, usually if you go
Speaker 1: to Palestine, you are on a tour bus. Uh and
Speaker 1: you uh you go with a big group. But not us.
Speaker 1: And uh it was quite the journey and it was
Speaker 1: quite a day and we made it back. Um. It
Speaker 1: was a little dicey. We had somebody spit on our car,
Speaker 1: but that was it's really not that bad. Um, yeah
Speaker 1: it or how did at work? No? No, we were
Speaker 1: stuck in traffic at the border trying to cross back over.
Speaker 1: Um and luckily we all had our passports on us
Speaker 1: because we really didn't realize that we were crossing over
Speaker 1: any borders. So that that was That's my favorite depressing
Speaker 1: pandemic activity. Uh. And I think you should all try
Speaker 1: just give it a world. See what you were doing
Speaker 1: this time last years. It was a really cool church,
Speaker 1: really awesome. Do you really recommend Jerusalem? No, I think
Speaker 1: it's amazing. I want to call you every day and
Speaker 1: hear this, like incredibly sad um look back on and
Speaker 1: what you were doing. It's a very Colleen thing to
Speaker 1: just kind of stumble into into Palestine too. Patrick, you
Speaker 1: were looking at your phone. Did you go back a
Speaker 1: year or when Collein mentioned this to be yesterday, I
Speaker 1: didn't know that we were gonna be depres sing on
Speaker 1: multiple levels, but I went to um, I went through
Speaker 1: my phone to to look into what I was doing
Speaker 1: a year ago. And I don't know if you guys
Speaker 1: could see. Uh. Lauren and I actually went on a
Speaker 1: date to Playhouse to see a magic show with a
Speaker 1: small intimate crowd where people were close to each other
Speaker 1: and touching each other and touching playing cards and doing
Speaker 1: all of these things, uh that are impossible right now.
Speaker 1: And so yeah, the the idea is super depressing and
Speaker 1: had pretty well too. I was that I was looking
Speaker 1: back I was at Fenway Park. Um, about to see
Speaker 1: my family the next day, but staying at a friend's
Speaker 1: house and watching The Red Sex win. I think it
Speaker 1: was like an eighteen to eleven real offensive night at
Speaker 1: Fenway Park. I was in Miami, UM taping yeah with
Speaker 1: Poppy over there. Um, how are you finding just like
Speaker 1: doing zoom for all TV? It's all right? I mean,
Speaker 1: you guys have the same experience as I do. I
Speaker 1: for me, the worst part is like doing my own
Speaker 1: hair and makeup or attempting to and lighting and all
Speaker 1: the stuff that we count on much more skilled people
Speaker 1: to do. Um, I'm pretty bad at all. It turns
Speaker 1: out I'm bad at everything that goes into the making
Speaker 1: of television. Just being on television is my job. But
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying it. I think it's a lot easier than
Speaker 1: any of us thought it was back in March. I'll
Speaker 1: say that, Yeah, that's true, which is good because I
Speaker 1: think it's going to be continuing here for for quite
Speaker 1: a while. My only thing is the delay. I can't
Speaker 1: get used to the delay. It's so annoying. It changes
Speaker 1: everything that we do with how people with how we
Speaker 1: tee people up, and it's just it just makes TV bad,
Speaker 1: and I wish like it's like, let's let's nationalize the Internet.
Speaker 1: Let's make this better for everybody. I don't know. It
Speaker 1: feels like a tweet that you were, like a Cleveland
Speaker 1: tweet in real life we just saw come together. I
Speaker 1: mean for Internet, it might it might help, might help
Speaker 1: send some kids to public school. That would be nice.
Speaker 1: In the delay is the absolute worst though, Like it is,
Speaker 1: it makes everything so scripted, and then anytime you try
Speaker 1: and like interact with somebody, say something funny, like just
Speaker 1: react to somebody's point, there's just like dead silence and
Speaker 1: you don't know how it was received until seconds later
Speaker 1: and you've already moved on to something else and then
Speaker 1: you have to like back laugh at it and then
Speaker 1: be like yeah, but I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you're if I'm talking over you still right now,
Speaker 1: or like what is going on? And so you just
Speaker 1: like power through and it's um, I feel like not great. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't think ESPN isn't having these problems. I mean
Speaker 1: I don't worry about it because me and Andrew Cecilia
Speaker 1: I don't have such amazing chemistry like it. It's sort
Speaker 1: of nothing can stop in naturally. Yeah, but but maybe
Speaker 1: it's in a different ESPN. And that was Colleen's favorite
Speaker 1: depressing pandemic activity. Okay, Colleen, I think that was a
Speaker 1: big success. That was that was an a you're one
Speaker 1: for one right now, figure. But you're off to I'm
Speaker 1: not surprised. It's like you're you've kind of stepped up
Speaker 1: in class, just like in general since you were on
Speaker 1: the show, is right, You're like, like you're bringing the
Speaker 1: executive producer credit, is what I'm saying. You're like the
Speaker 1: why are you trying to butter me up right now?
Speaker 1: What is coming next? I don't know, We'll see You're
Speaker 1: like the Reese Witherspoon maybe podcast. We do have like
Speaker 1: tiny and it is a come that I was thinking
Speaker 1: this show might be the last show where we have
Speaker 1: just a lot of football news to talk about, which
Speaker 1: is nice, which is a relief, and that you know,
Speaker 1: the league's handling of the coronavirus isn't gonna be almost everything,
Speaker 1: or at least the most important thing that we're talking
Speaker 1: about every episode. But we do have a little bit
Speaker 1: of an update there, which is today there was a
Speaker 1: report that the NFL and NFL p a agreed that
Speaker 1: there will be kind of a separate i R list
Speaker 1: um four players who get the coronavirus. It will be
Speaker 1: three weeks. They will be fully paid. But that is
Speaker 1: that is one small detail, and the bigger news, the
Speaker 1: bigger kind of global picture, is that we are technically
Speaker 1: only two days away as we tape this from when
Speaker 1: a couple of teams, including the Texans rookies, are supposed
Speaker 1: to show up for training camp. The NFL owners have
Speaker 1: a big call on Friday, in which I expect there
Speaker 1: will be news about certainly those rookies not showing up
Speaker 1: and you know, very possibly training camp getting pushed back.
Speaker 1: But I think I guess the biggest takeaway is here,
Speaker 1: there's they're pretty far away. It feels like on even
Speaker 1: coming to terms with how this will look at the
Speaker 1: same time that you know, five, six, seven NFL teams
Speaker 1: are in some of the worst you know places that
Speaker 1: you could possibly be, uh in the entire country. So
Speaker 1: that's it. Like the news is just like, there's gonna
Speaker 1: be more news Friday. But I wouldn't be surprised, you know,
Speaker 1: like if we when we come back on our show Monday,
Speaker 1: or when you you're doing your show is Monday, that
Speaker 1: that things are gonna start getting pushed in the preseason
Speaker 1: especially feels like it is like more of a dream
Speaker 1: for the owners than something that could realistically happen. Coming
Speaker 1: coming from my work there, Greg, you love the preseason,
Speaker 1: that's right, and you're the So the players are pushing
Speaker 1: for no preseason. The league wanted the two games as
Speaker 1: the last we've heard. Um. It is interesting to think about,
Speaker 1: like which teams are not to be the transition to
Speaker 1: like the football ish side of things, right, like when
Speaker 1: we talk about how will no fans affect the home
Speaker 1: crowd advantage at Seahawks State? You know, but it is
Speaker 1: interesting to see like no preseason would really affect a
Speaker 1: lot of rosters a lot. I know we poop on
Speaker 1: it and some teams view it as inessential, But this
Speaker 1: is the time of the year when we start talking
Speaker 1: about question marks, training camp battles, um. Like for example,
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears, if they don't have a preseason, who
Speaker 1: starts Week one? You know? I I there are teams
Speaker 1: out there where Yeah, do you think definitely Nick Foles
Speaker 1: only is here for the playoffs? I kind of think
Speaker 1: I don't know, and he will show up I'm not
Speaker 1: saying anything definitely, but I think the training camp is
Speaker 1: gonna look more like the NFLPA wants, which is about
Speaker 1: a three week ramp up where initially maybe there's only
Speaker 1: twenty people in the building and that maybe you get
Speaker 1: to O T A S in two or three weeks
Speaker 1: and maybe you get the padded practices in four, five
Speaker 1: or six weeks. And it's like, if that's the timeline,
Speaker 1: what are we talking about here? Like that you're not
Speaker 1: even close to being in with in terms of the preseason.
Speaker 1: And we talked about how the NFL built some flexibility
Speaker 1: into this season of pushing it back, and yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I think we're getting closer and closer there. If
Speaker 1: someone had told us in March that as we were
Speaker 1: sitting here twelve days before training camp was supposed to
Speaker 1: start in a couple of days before rookies, that cases
Speaker 1: and death in cities would be higher now than at
Speaker 1: any point in the pandemic, um like, I don't think
Speaker 1: we would have believed it, and we probably would have
Speaker 1: just assumed that the NFL is going to have a
Speaker 1: hard time coming back. College football looks like it's it's
Speaker 1: on the ropes, But when you just look at what
Speaker 1: I don't know. If you guys saw J. J. Watts
Speaker 1: tweet today, um, he tweeted, I guess after these conversations
Speaker 1: that the NFL, p A and the NFL have had
Speaker 1: this week, here's what they know and don't know and
Speaker 1: some of the points he outlined. We have not received
Speaker 1: a single valid infections disease emergency response from any team
Speaker 1: or the league. We don't know if there are preseason games, obviously,
Speaker 1: we don't know if there will be daily testing, semi
Speaker 1: daily testing. We don't know how a potential positive COVID
Speaker 1: test would affect contracts, roster spots. Nothing has been agreed
Speaker 1: upon regarding what training camp will actually look up look
Speaker 1: like and how the ramp up period will even work.
Speaker 1: So it feels like nobody really knows anything well, and
Speaker 1: how could they. The testing is the hardest, has to
Speaker 1: be the hardest part. I know the NBA is getting
Speaker 1: it done to some degree, but in so many of
Speaker 1: these states, unless you're an essential employee, you're having to
Speaker 1: wait a week for your test results right now, and
Speaker 1: it gets really complicated. If the NFL is going to
Speaker 1: try to come in and even have the how could
Speaker 1: they have the resources or ethically like what you would
Speaker 1: need to do to have the resources to test as
Speaker 1: much as as you would need to to be safe.
Speaker 1: And then the list that they put together with COVID
Speaker 1: with the players having to go if they test pause
Speaker 1: there for the three week COVID I R whatever they're
Speaker 1: calling it. I mean, what are they gonna do with
Speaker 1: false positives when those tests come in? I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: not I don't. Everybody in my family is a nurse
Speaker 1: but me, so I get all of my information from them.
Speaker 1: But that is a problem, the false positives, and that's
Speaker 1: going to affect rosters and football too, if anything. So
Speaker 1: before the horse they like August is going to be
Speaker 1: so challenging, like they just need to try to figure
Speaker 1: out some sort of safe way to do August and
Speaker 1: worry about everything else later. And we're within the incubation
Speaker 1: period right now, like twelve days until training camp starts.
Speaker 1: If you if you're in exposed to the virus, like
Speaker 1: you may not test positive until you're already there, and
Speaker 1: then then what happens, like how how are things going
Speaker 1: to look two weeks after the starter training camp. There's
Speaker 1: just so many places where it feels like at this point,
Speaker 1: we should have like a firm process of this is
Speaker 1: what we're doing, this is what's safe to do. But
Speaker 1: because yeah, society more, the NFL is not going to
Speaker 1: solve it. But because money is involved, right, But because
Speaker 1: money is involved in society, because money is involved in
Speaker 1: the league, there's kind of himming and holly on like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're we're Is it okay to blur the lines because
Speaker 1: you know, ultimately we're concerned about uh people being able
Speaker 1: to make a living. And so it's as you said
Speaker 1: many times, like it shouldn't be up to a league
Speaker 1: or even a city or state to do this. You know,
Speaker 1: these things should be implemented at the federal level BIA
Speaker 1: functional government. And apologies to people who are tired of
Speaker 1: hearing people say that let's go back to the football.
Speaker 1: That was more fun. There actually was more football news.
Speaker 1: It really is probably gonna dry out now. I can't
Speaker 1: see what else is going to happen. But there were
Speaker 1: items this week that in a normal week, we like
Speaker 1: we would have been leading this show with Myles Garrett's contract,
Speaker 1: We would have spent twenty minutes on it because we
Speaker 1: would have just been excited that something happened, like Miles Garrett, Colleen,
Speaker 1: you were there, um for I would say the worst
Speaker 1: moment of his career. You were in the in the
Speaker 1: building in Cleveland. What have you have guessed doing one
Speaker 1: of um what I would have guessed was the most
Speaker 1: difficult but excellent jobs by you doing that post game show.
Speaker 1: What have you have guessed that night that like, we'd
Speaker 1: be talking about a huge Miles Garrett extension that makes
Speaker 1: him one of the highest paid players before the next
Speaker 1: season starts. I can't even imagine. I can't even imagine
Speaker 1: like thinking that going back to that night because it
Speaker 1: was one of the most I mean, even Super Bowls
Speaker 1: have been less chaotic than that night because left in
Speaker 1: the game that was part of it too, and like,
Speaker 1: and it happened at the other end of the field
Speaker 1: from where we were, and they weren't replaying it in
Speaker 1: the stadium, so nobody knew what was going, Like we
Speaker 1: couldn't see what was happening, and we didn't have any
Speaker 1: monitors because they didn't even pull They were just about
Speaker 1: to pull out our set onto the field with like
Speaker 1: the second ticking down, and so we just here like
Speaker 1: Joe Buck being like being like and Troy Aquman being like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, oh wow, did you see that? And
Speaker 1: we're like, what is happening right now? How do we do?
Speaker 1: How do we do the show? And it was like
Speaker 1: we had to throw it all together and and once
Speaker 1: we actually saw you know, the video, then we were like,
Speaker 1: oh wow, all right, so this is a thing. This
Speaker 1: is a big thing. This is a thing that is
Speaker 1: going to be a thing for a while thing. So
Speaker 1: I can't imagine, you know, thinking that night that we
Speaker 1: were going to be sitting here having this conversation. But
Speaker 1: before that moment, Myles Garrett was in the discussion for
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year. He was in the conversation
Speaker 1: for that, and you you saw the fall off with
Speaker 1: the defense when he was not on the field in
Speaker 1: terms of what they were able to do with pressure,
Speaker 1: and it just wasn't anywhere close to a success Bowl
Speaker 1: as they were when they had Myles Garrett on the field.
Speaker 1: So he's getting that money and he said that, uh,
Speaker 1: you know that one moment isn't going to define his
Speaker 1: whole career in life. And and me and you talked
Speaker 1: to him, I mean, what do you think about all
Speaker 1: that the experts? I know, I'm getting my Google alerts
Speaker 1: from my name because it's being mentioned in the context
Speaker 1: of his contract. Uh this interview. Um, yeah, so I
Speaker 1: guess it was. God, it feels like another lifetime. When
Speaker 1: was the February. It was after the Super Bowl, I think.
Speaker 1: But Um, I did the interview Miles about the incident
Speaker 1: when he was reinstated, and he sort of reasserted his
Speaker 1: allegation that Mason Rudolph said a flirt of him. Um.
Speaker 1: And that was met with a lot of backlash from
Speaker 1: the Steelers. Uh. And the number one question people always
Speaker 1: asked me is do you believe him? And I don't
Speaker 1: have an answer to that question. I truly I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was in the field. I believe that there is
Speaker 1: an audio, by the way, which is something there's been
Speaker 1: a lot of question marks about and I think a
Speaker 1: kind of a lot of misunderstandings about what is actually
Speaker 1: actually taped on NFL fields and retained. Um. But I
Speaker 1: do know this. I'm not surprised by the contract because
Speaker 1: the Browns absolutely love him. And one of the things
Speaker 1: that didn't really make it into it wasn't reported on
Speaker 1: was you know after that night and then after our interview,
Speaker 1: a lot of people ask why didn't he tell anyone
Speaker 1: that night. He did, he told John Dorsey, and Dorsey
Speaker 1: confirmed it, and Dorsey has only ever supported him and
Speaker 1: backed him. So again, I don't know if it's true
Speaker 1: or whatnot, but I do know that that organization thinks
Speaker 1: very highly of him. And I'm not surprised for obvious
Speaker 1: football reasons, right, And I'm glad and he's right, it's
Speaker 1: not going to define him. I mean, they've they've known
Speaker 1: him in the building. He's a number one overall draft
Speaker 1: pick that has lived up to the building. And then
Speaker 1: some DJ Daniel Jeremiah are are our podcast adversary mentioned
Speaker 1: on Twitter this week. You know he he thinks that
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett has the most tools in the toolbox of
Speaker 1: any pass rusher in the league, and I would I
Speaker 1: would agree with that. I love watching Garrett every single snap,
Speaker 1: and as good as he is, I think there's even
Speaker 1: a feeling that, wow, he could he could be even better.
Speaker 1: That he was probably one of the five best pass
Speaker 1: rushers in the league last year, and I think that's
Speaker 1: the closest he's been to being full Garrett. And yet
Speaker 1: when you when you do watch him, there is I
Speaker 1: still have this feeling that I think he could have
Speaker 1: j J. Why obviously it's he's a different type of player,
Speaker 1: But just like weow the rest of the league out
Speaker 1: of the water type seasons, and it still feels like
Speaker 1: like there is a chance that that is in front
Speaker 1: of him. Patrick he is, He's like, right, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's which is so different like in this world where
Speaker 1: like even on video games, like people don't even play
Speaker 1: defense anymore. They just seems to the offense, and offense
Speaker 1: gets so much energy and so much attention. But like
Speaker 1: when the Browns were playing, like you're watching number to
Speaker 1: see what he can do, and like, like we've all said,
Speaker 1: like that moment with Mason Rudolph where something happened, we
Speaker 1: don't know what it was. To people on Earth know
Speaker 1: what happened. Uh, it's weird that people could make a
Speaker 1: statement as to what did or didn't happen other than
Speaker 1: the people involved. But ultimately, like he's a spectacular football
Speaker 1: player and I'm glad, like I'm glad that the Browns
Speaker 1: were able to kind of look past this and he
Speaker 1: can get his money and he can hit quarterbacks legally,
Speaker 1: like with his pads and not with their own helmets. Right,
Speaker 1: the defensive line there never didn't quite live up to
Speaker 1: the building that we expected going into last year. But
Speaker 1: it's all They're all still there. Olivia Vernon still there,
Speaker 1: played pretty well when he was healthy. Sheldon Richardson played
Speaker 1: pretty well. Ogan Job did not have a great year,
Speaker 1: but like that defense is still there and and should
Speaker 1: be great. There's a lot about the Browns that should
Speaker 1: be better this year. Hopefully we can see that. Hopefully
Speaker 1: we can also see Jason Peters your boy. Colleen excited,
Speaker 1: but I think the Eagles organization was excited too that
Speaker 1: nobody wanted to sign Jason Peters to play tackle because
Speaker 1: I think they actually felt like Jason Peters can still play,
Speaker 1: that he played pretty well for us last year. It
Speaker 1: just didn't make sense to bring him back as a
Speaker 1: tackle because we have guys that tackle, and once he
Speaker 1: just couldn't get a job, and all he could get
Speaker 1: was kind of a low deal to play guard for
Speaker 1: the Eagles. It's like he's back, and uh, I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a Hall of Famer someday, and it
Speaker 1: looks like, oh, end his career with Philadelphia. It's it's
Speaker 1: just it was meant to be. I think Rosie that's
Speaker 1: sort of my feeling on it. I mean, it is
Speaker 1: it is interesting. If he does actually play guard, it'll
Speaker 1: be the first and time. And he's obviously, you know,
Speaker 1: an amazing player, he's super talented. But he's also switching
Speaker 1: from the left side to the right side, so there
Speaker 1: will be a learning curve. But think about that right
Speaker 1: side of the line. What a party that is. I mean,
Speaker 1: you got Jason Kelsey, Jason Peters, and Lane Johnson. And
Speaker 1: Lane Johnson was supposed to replace Jason Peters back when
Speaker 1: they brought when they drafted him. So I feel like it's, uh,
Speaker 1: it's it's very odd just to see him coming back.
Speaker 1: I mean, when I was starting college, Jason Peters was
Speaker 1: just starting with the Eagles, so I feel like he's
Speaker 1: really been there forever. I remember writing Rhoda World posts
Speaker 1: about this tight end Jason Peters, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: I really do like it. It's like it doesn't look
Speaker 1: like he's athletic, but doesn't look like he's it's working out.
Speaker 1: They might move him to tackle, which is usually like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this dude's career is over. Didn't right that way, Well,
Speaker 1: we've uh, we've done enough news. I'm I'm excited now.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to get to this idea that Colleen had,
Speaker 1: which is show and tell? Should it should be? My
Speaker 1: ideas have been brilliant. I feel like they really have.
Speaker 1: You made the show for us. I don't want to
Speaker 1: keep everyone too long. I know, Patrick, you might need
Speaker 1: to jump off at some point. Tell us if you are. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm monitoring my phone ostensively. Uh, we'll see what the
Speaker 1: what the news overlords of NFL. What would like to do?
Speaker 1: But so you you have the idea, Colleen, even though
Speaker 1: it is an audio show, we are taping it on video,
Speaker 1: and you just wanted to do a quick show and
Speaker 1: tell because you've been going around and packing your boxes
Speaker 1: this we can't you hire someone for that. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not hiring somebody to pack the boxes. I'm going
Speaker 1: to hire somebody to help, like physically move out, because
Speaker 1: these lines are going to be able to carry credenzas
Speaker 1: out of this house. I'm telling you when when West
Speaker 1: and I moved to l A, the NFL shockingly paid
Speaker 1: for a moving service that that we didn't have to
Speaker 1: do anything. They just showed up like magazines were out,
Speaker 1: and they just man, I never want to live another way.
Speaker 1: They touched your stuff. I mean you could take, you
Speaker 1: could separate whatever you don't want them to pack that
Speaker 1: you wanted to keep separate, you know, because we weren't
Speaker 1: going to have it for a few weeks, you know,
Speaker 1: because they had to go into U haul across the
Speaker 1: country and whatnot. But yeah, they basically did it all.
Speaker 1: It was amazing, like your underwear and every would pay,
Speaker 1: Like I don't pay for a lot of things and whatever.
Speaker 1: I'll drive lousy cars in my whole life, but whenever
Speaker 1: I moved next, I'm doing that again because it was.
Speaker 1: It was a life changer. Fancy I even if it
Speaker 1: wasn't a pandemic, I still don't know. If I would
Speaker 1: come in and like pack all of my stuff, I
Speaker 1: would feel so weird about it. I'd be like, um,
Speaker 1: can I help you with anything? Is there anything I
Speaker 1: can get you? Like we left the house, I can't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would have to. I don't know. I guess that
Speaker 1: sounds like a great experience. I think one of us
Speaker 1: stay at all times, but but the other and our daughter,
Speaker 1: you know, left, so one person hung out. Yes, sorry
Speaker 1: for distracting what Show and Tell really should be all
Speaker 1: about color. What a different experience. I mean, I could
Speaker 1: just show and tell you all of the boxes that
Speaker 1: are like in around this place. There's a lot, but
Speaker 1: it is an audio program, so I understand. Um okay,
Speaker 1: so my show and tell a couple of things I
Speaker 1: found while I was packing here. I still have my
Speaker 1: Super Bowl confetti in a zip block bag. I feel
Speaker 1: like I should have done something cooler with it by now,
Speaker 1: because we are well passed when the Eagles won, So
Speaker 1: maybe I should like put it in a frame or
Speaker 1: something with the ticket. I don't know, something more sentimental
Speaker 1: than a zip blog baggy of confetti that was just
Speaker 1: shoved in my nightstand. So I found that, pick up
Speaker 1: the confetti and then like, but I don't know if
Speaker 1: people really want that and like send it to like
Speaker 1: if I know the fan of that team. But it's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if people do people want the confetti.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's like a gift, all like throw in a
Speaker 1: couple of pieces. But it's dwindling now, so I might
Speaker 1: that might be over. Um okay, so this is one
Speaker 1: of my favorite, uh, one of my favorite things. It's
Speaker 1: an Eagles T shirt. Um. But it was my mom's um.
Speaker 1: So it's like legit, oh g and it's the softest
Speaker 1: thing in the world. And my the reason I found
Speaker 1: it was because I've had it my house for a while.
Speaker 1: But the reason I initially found it at my parents, um,
Speaker 1: was because my mom was using it as a rag
Speaker 1: to clean the house and it was in a rag
Speaker 1: bin with a bunch of like other old cool T
Speaker 1: shirts that I pulled out, and I was like, what
Speaker 1: are you doing with these? Give me this? So uh,
Speaker 1: it is one of the coolest things ever. And it's
Speaker 1: like so worn that you could I can see you
Speaker 1: guys through it. Can you even wear it anymore? It's
Speaker 1: just sort of an artifact. I wear it, but I
Speaker 1: feel like it's going to fall apart every time I
Speaker 1: do wear it. So yeah, it's not long for this
Speaker 1: world for sure. Thanks mom. So that's it. I thought
Speaker 1: you were going to have a lot I could watch this. Well,
Speaker 1: I have other stuff. I have a light just like cover.
Speaker 1: I have an old pennant that my dad's from the basement,
Speaker 1: which is really cool. Um. And then this like old
Speaker 1: Eagles football that I have in the background of my shots.
Speaker 1: So it's my brother next week being on TV? Again?
Speaker 1: Is that why you have to go to work. No,
Speaker 1: the shot is still up. That's like the only thing
Speaker 1: that's not packed. It's like still just like sitting and
Speaker 1: it's who's your favorite team? Call? Yeah, do you like
Speaker 1: a football team? I guess it would be, um, the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles. Yeah, okay, I'm done. All right, Well hold
Speaker 1: on one second. Yeah. I love the shorts when I'm
Speaker 1: like working at the stations. So, like, this is nothing new.
Speaker 1: It's weird to see like people would being like, oh
Speaker 1: I'm wearing I'm wearing shorts like in quarantine life and
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're not about this life, Like I've been
Speaker 1: doing this since all right. So, um, a little backstory.
Speaker 1: I met my wife on Twitter. Um, I was covering
Speaker 1: the Alabama Tennessee game in Knoxville. We're talking on text
Speaker 1: and I catch a wild hair to drive to Charlotte
Speaker 1: and meet her. And so that was like weird and risky.
Speaker 1: I drove to the y MC. Yeah, Uh got got
Speaker 1: a thrift store shirt and UH went up you know,
Speaker 1: of course, knocked on the door. She opened it. She
Speaker 1: was the most beautiful thing I've ever seen in my life. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, were we got married whatever? Um, but I
Speaker 1: pulled this horrible looking like button down collar like it's
Speaker 1: it's super raddy. It sucks, uh, but I pulled it
Speaker 1: out when we're in Costa Rica. I wore when I
Speaker 1: asked her to marry me. I told her I was
Speaker 1: emotional and in shambles, but yeah, this is uh, this
Speaker 1: is a is awesome and I love it. So that's it.
Speaker 1: That's good story, amazing. You told it on Twitter as well.
Speaker 1: I feel like during this pandemic people, it's so great.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was. And then there was like a sci
Speaker 1: fi thing a joke in there right as I recall, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we u and texted back and forth. It was super cheesy.
Speaker 1: I'm a big dork and uh, this like if I
Speaker 1: put this shirt on like this, I'm not very good
Speaker 1: at fashion and like this this shirt sucks, but I'm
Speaker 1: never getting wed of it. I love that you kept it.
Speaker 1: That's great. What do you got me? Um? So mine's
Speaker 1: not as cute or or you know, charming like Colleens.
Speaker 1: But today on while keeping highly questionable this morning and
Speaker 1: talking about Dak Prescott making my incredible hoisted by his
Speaker 1: own pitard reference, um l duncan you think bring it
Speaker 1: out again? It's kind of like work better. The more
Speaker 1: you bring it up, you gotta bring up a third time.
Speaker 1: I actually think it makes it gets smarter and smarter
Speaker 1: more use it. And anyways, L Duncan was on the
Speaker 1: show with me and she had this analogy about the
Speaker 1: quarterback market and beanie babies. So then we all started
Speaker 1: talking about beanie babies, and I remember that I had
Speaker 1: a beanie baby. I have a lot of stuffed animals, um, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: affirming every possible stereotype about me as an Asian American
Speaker 1: women who covers the NFL. I love so are you
Speaker 1: allow to cuss on this? Sorry? So many stuffed animals.
Speaker 1: I just think they're so cute and I get I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know like people. Maybe that's surprising because I
Speaker 1: have I'm kind of a broish job or whatever, but
Speaker 1: I have like a hundred stuffed animals. Kind of probably
Speaker 1: has a shocked face right now. I love them. I
Speaker 1: don't know where you keep them, Um, I can show you.
Speaker 1: I mean there's some up I don't want to like
Speaker 1: mess up my audio set up, but they're like twenty
Speaker 1: up there. There's a couple on my shelf. Anyway, so
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yeah, I think I got a
Speaker 1: beanie baby laying around, so I grabbed it. It's a
Speaker 1: bat you guys can see. It's a little bad um.
Speaker 1: The official tie name is Batty. I call it Radar.
Speaker 1: They all have names too, and voices and anyways on
Speaker 1: the air, uh l, Duncan was like looked it up
Speaker 1: and it turns out this is worth a thousand dollars. Wait,
Speaker 1: this is yeah, this is gonna get rid of any baby? No,
Speaker 1: I mean I then I'd have to, like, you know,
Speaker 1: figure out the website where you say, I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just you know exactly. Thus, yeah, just like Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1: So I love this little bat um and so people
Speaker 1: maybe make fun of me for loving stuffed animals. But
Speaker 1: who's laughing now? I'm laughing all the way to the
Speaker 1: bank that I'll never go to because I'll never do,
Speaker 1: you know, take the effort to tell it. But you're
Speaker 1: sitting on a gold mine. Apparently apparently I am that's great.
Speaker 1: Um wow mine, Yeah, mine's not his cute or anything
Speaker 1: like that. I was looking around for like something that
Speaker 1: would be good to have. And I'm not super sentimental,
Speaker 1: which maybe isn't a shock. I don't keep a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff. Um, well, not in terms of objects. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not a big keeper. I like throwing things away.
Speaker 1: But I found randomly, I found this um disposable camera
Speaker 1: from and it's from with the crank on the back
Speaker 1: and everything, and it's from two thousand and one. So
Speaker 1: I am really excited now after looking through some drawers
Speaker 1: to like go to right Aid and your Walgreens and see, uh,
Speaker 1: see what develops on this thing. That's that's what I'm
Speaker 1: excited about. I also have two things like like calling
Speaker 1: the just not just one. I I have been wanting
Speaker 1: to get like my grandfather's painting in the background in
Speaker 1: my shots. I have a lot of his paintings. He
Speaker 1: was a painter. He was an art professor in Berlin
Speaker 1: in the nineteen thirties and forties. He he left in
Speaker 1: nineteen forty one. That you can kind of do the
Speaker 1: math there, which is crazy, um, but I just thought
Speaker 1: it'd be fun to have like a little Hines Rosenthal
Speaker 1: around the NFL podcast and uh so now this is
Speaker 1: to do it. And he does a lot of different
Speaker 1: sort of styles and had his own different eras. But
Speaker 1: I think this is like from the nineteen thirties which
Speaker 1: is crazy. Have you named it? Does that have a name? No?
Speaker 1: But it's always the one like there's a handful of
Speaker 1: them that I always bring around, and I always like her.
Speaker 1: So she she's she's traveled with me from New Orleans,
Speaker 1: you know, to New York to hear I should. That's
Speaker 1: a good idea, I know, I should. I think they
Speaker 1: were out a way to put it in my background.
Speaker 1: That's my shoe and tel shout out to shout out
Speaker 1: the yeah. Wow. I feel like I've learned a lot
Speaker 1: about you guys. It was good. It was another home run, Colleen.
Speaker 1: I mean we're here in July. You know, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of down news out there. Um, and I think
Speaker 1: you brought a smile to people's face just by showing up.
Speaker 1: When when will we see you again calling? I feel
Speaker 1: like it might be a while, Um, Monday, back on
Speaker 1: back at it on Monday, Wednesday, total access. To be clear,
Speaker 1: not on our podcast. You're not gonna slum it with
Speaker 1: us again. Oh well, but maybe the week after because
Speaker 1: I'm off again, so we'll see. I'm trying to do
Speaker 1: like I work for a week and then I take
Speaker 1: a vacation. This is just my first try it, so
Speaker 1: we'll see take like the week off, week off, you don't.
Speaker 1: You don't have to show up here. I do. Thank
Speaker 1: you Golf for coming and helping out when UM, I
Speaker 1: know you're you're very busy, Mina, You're on Highly Questionable
Speaker 1: this week, you're on First Take. You've got um your
Speaker 1: podcast with Lenny that drops every Tuesday night or Wednesday morning,
Speaker 1: Tuesday Wednesday. Bly, I mean it's a lot not no no,
Speaker 1: Pablo Tories taking over at ESPN day. I saw that,
Speaker 1: but I saw you still been doing it, so you know, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta come back on Many Time show. We're doing
Speaker 1: division previews. Uh this week we did the a f
Speaker 1: C West, Next week NFC North and UM to any
Speaker 1: listeners out there, we we uh we will be back
Speaker 1: on Monday. Before we go. Just as we were wrapping
Speaker 1: up on this podcast, the Washington Post reported that fifteen
Speaker 1: female former employees say they were sexually harassed during their
Speaker 1: time with the team. You probably know there's been a
Speaker 1: lot of whispers about what was going to come out
Speaker 1: about Washington this week, and this was it. A couple
Speaker 1: of personnel department employees were fired over the weekend. Uh.
Speaker 1: It involves allegations against them against their longtime broadcaster Larry Michael,
Speaker 1: who's also no longer now with the team. But we
Speaker 1: uh we we'll see how the team handles this. They
Speaker 1: did release a statement, while we do not speak to
Speaker 1: specific employee situations publicly, when new allegations of conduct are
Speaker 1: brought forward, that our contrary to these policies, we will
Speaker 1: address them proply, promptly. And uh yeah, this is a
Speaker 1: time of transition, to say the least, for for the
Speaker 1: Washington team, and I'm sure we'll have more updates on
Speaker 1: that as we know more. What what an offseason it's been.
Speaker 1: Thanks for for sticking around with us. We're almost there
Speaker 1: on on paper. Training camp is starting soon. We will
Speaker 1: let you know if that changes when we know that's it. Ricky,
Speaker 1: love you guys, I miss you for Colleen Wolf, Ricky Hollywood,
Speaker 1: Patrick Claybourne, and our special guest Mina Kimes of Greg Rosenthal.
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