1 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: From the Bloomberg Interactive Burgers Studios. This is Bloomberg day 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: Break for Wednesday, May twenty fourth. 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 2: Coming up today, talks on the debt ceiling hit a 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 2: wall with just eight days till a potential default. 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: Ronda Santis is set to launch his presidential bid in 6 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: an unconventional way. 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: Britain's hot inflation fuels bets for higher. 8 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: Rates and get ready to pay more if you share 9 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: your Netflix account. 10 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 3: The data cent for Donald Trump's New York criminal trial. 11 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 3: Mayor Adams trying to suspend the city's right to shelter mandate. 12 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 3: I'm John Tucker. Those stories straight ahead. 13 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 4: I'm down Stash Aaron Sports, a walk off win for 14 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 4: the Yankees, a loss for the Mets, NBA playoffs, the 15 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 4: Celtics beat the heat. 16 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 5: That's all straight ahead on Bloomberg day Break. The Business 17 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 5: news You need to sturn your day in just one 18 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 5: fifteen minute podcast each morning on Apples, Spotify, the Bloomberg 19 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 5: Business app, and everywhere you get your podcasts. 20 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. 21 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: And I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the stories we're following today. 22 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: Well, Karen, we're coming off a losing session for equities. 23 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 2: Both the S and P five hundred and the NANSDAK 24 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: fell more than one percent yesterday with debt ceiling talks 25 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: at an impass in Washington. After the latest round of 26 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 2: negotiations on Capitol Hill, House Speaker Kevin McCarthy said they're 27 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 2: not there yet. 28 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 6: There are certain. 29 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 2: Things that divide as and we know that is you 30 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 2: cannot spend more money next year than we spend this year. 31 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: Clear today, Speaker McCarthy and his negotiators say it's not 32 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: clear when the two sides will meet again. White House 33 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: spokeswoman Karine Jean Pierre says President Biden's team is willing 34 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 2: to keep talking. 35 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 7: Negotiations are hard, they're not easy. This is democracy in 36 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 7: action as we have seen it, as we have looked 37 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 7: at what's been going on these past couple of days 38 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 7: and weeks, and what both sides need to understand is 39 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 7: neither side is going to get exactly what they want. 40 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: This standoff means any vote on a deal might not 41 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 2: happen until next week. The Treasury Department has said it 42 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: could start running out of cash as soon as next Thursday. 43 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: Well Nathan at least one Republican says there's still time 44 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: for a deal Congressman French Hill as the vice chairman 45 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: of the House Financial Services Committee. 46 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 8: No one wants to default on the Treasury securities. No 47 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 8: one's proposing to do that. But unfortunately Congress uses a deadline. 48 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 8: And so, like John Bahner told us years and years ago, 49 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,839 Speaker 8: Congress moved very slowly until it doesn't. And so we're 50 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 8: working on this deadline, and we want to get a 51 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 8: deal that's responsible and sensible, raises the debt sailing, but 52 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 8: curtails the avalanche of spending. 53 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: And ARKANSAA Republican french Hill may the comments on Bloomberg's 54 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: Balance of Power catch the program weekday evenings at five 55 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: pm Wall Street Time on Bloomberg Television. 56 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: Well, Karen, we've heard many, including Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen Warren, 57 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 2: about the catastrophic impact of debt default would have on 58 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 2: the economy. One prominent investor, Rabeni Macro Associates CEO Nurial 59 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: Rabini says the stock market would also feel major repercussions. 60 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 9: We don't know yet. They may get to the last 61 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 9: hour before there's an agreement, or it's possible that don't 62 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 9: reach an agreement. If that doesn't happen, then the market 63 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 9: is going to crash and that may force an agreement 64 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 9: in the next few days. 65 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 2: Nouriel Ravin made those comments to Bloomberg's Francine Lacua at 66 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 2: the Cutter Economic Forum. 67 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: Well, Nathan. Another major political story we're following, Ron DeSantis 68 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: is apparently set to announce his run for president in 69 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: a very non traditional manner, and Bloomberg's Ad Baxter has the. 70 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 10: Story Desantas announcing it'll be a Twitter live stream with 71 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 10: Elin Musk. That means the live audio will be available 72 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 10: to Musk's more than one hundred and forty million followers. 73 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 10: It also raises a number of issues, first to Santa's 74 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 10: feeling there is a large audience, but then from Musk 75 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 10: a rather interesting move as he shuffles the app to 76 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 10: more partisan approach to political discourse and monitoring. Also raises 77 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 10: issues for advertisers at a potential row with Disney. One 78 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 10: of its largest advertisers in any case today is the 79 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 10: Santa State amount is challenged to Donald Trump in San Francisco. 80 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 10: I'm at Baxter Bloomberg Debreak. 81 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 6: Thanks Ed. 82 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: We got some major banking news this morning. Britain's anti 83 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 2: trust agency says traders at five major banks colluded in 84 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: chat rooms to swap sensitive information on UK bonds. The 85 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: Competition and Markets Authority says City Group, Deutsche Bank, HSBC, 86 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: Morgan Stanley and Royal Bank of Canada each unlawfully shared 87 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 2: competitively sensitive information in chatrooms between two thousand and nine 88 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 2: and twenty thirteen. 89 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: Well, turning to the economy now, Nathan Britain's inflation rate 90 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: remained much stronger than expected, with gauges and measuring services 91 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: and core prices rising at the fastest pace in more 92 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: than three decades. We get more from Bloomberg's Lizzie Burden 93 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: in London. 94 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 11: Eight point seven percent is the actual figure for inflation. 95 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 11: The expectation from economists was eight point two percent. The 96 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 11: Bank of England had seen eight point four percent. So, 97 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 11: first of all, it goes back to questions about economists' models, 98 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 11: and it's a point that the chief economists of the 99 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 11: Bank of England, who Pill himself raised in Parliament yesterday. 100 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 11: The Governor Andrew Bailey says, part of the reason for 101 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 11: the problem with all the estimates is that they'd assumed 102 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 11: inflation would fall as fast as it rose and it hasn't. 103 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: And Bloomberg's Lizzie Burden in London says the figures will 104 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: add pressure on the Bank of England to keep raising 105 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: interest rates through the summer. 106 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 2: We'll back here in the US Karen. The Fed issues 107 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: the minutes from this month's policy meeting, when central bankers 108 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 2: opted for another quarter point interest rate increase. Bloomberg's Annie 109 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: del Judice reports. 110 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 12: It's like reading tea leaves. 111 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 13: It's the Fed dun raising interest rates Bloomberg Economics. As 112 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 13: the minutes may reveal why Fedchair Jerown Pale appeared to 113 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 13: downplay the impact of rising wages on inflation immediately following 114 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 13: the policy meeting. Since then, he signaled he's inclined to 115 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 13: pause tightening, citing credit conditions. The FED chair may face opposition, 116 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 13: though other officials are suggesting a US central bank needs 117 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 13: to do even more to stomp out inflation. Vinnie del 118 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 13: Judice Bloomberg. 119 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: Daybreak, Vinnie, thank you. And Netflix is bringing its crackdown 120 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: on account sharing to the US. We get the story 121 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: from Bloomberg's Charlie Bellett. 122 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 6: Well Services outline procedure and costs for US customers who 123 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 6: wish to continue sharing their accounts with people outside their household. 124 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 6: According to a blog post by the company, the streaming 125 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 6: TV leader will begin sending emails to customers who share 126 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 6: their passwords. Netflix is giving them the option to share 127 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 6: their account for an additional eight dollars a month, cheaper 128 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 6: than a full price subscription. The crackdown began last year 129 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 6: in Latin America, and it's a key part of Netflix's 130 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 6: strategy to generate more revenue from users. In New York, 131 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 6: Charlie Pellett Bloomberg Daybreak. 132 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: Thank you, Charlie. Local headlines and a check of sports. Next, 133 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: This is Bloomberg Time Now to look at some of 134 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,239 Speaker 2: the other stories making news in New York and around 135 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 2: the world with Bloomberg's John Tucker. 136 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 3: Good Morning, John, Good Morning, Nathan Is more migrants flood 137 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 3: in New York City is asking a judge to suspend 138 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 3: the right to shelter rule. More of this report from 139 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 3: Bloomberg's Jeff Bellinger. 140 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 12: Mayor Adams has asked judge to temporarily suspend the forty 141 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 12: two year old court ruling requiring the city to shelter 142 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 12: homeless adults. The request comes amid a surge in asylum 143 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 12: seekers that is straining the municipal budget. The mandate has 144 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 12: forced the city to turn to securing hotels to house migrants. 145 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 12: It has opened one hundred and thirty emergency shelters and 146 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 12: eight temporary facilities to manage the surge. New York's Department 147 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 12: of Homeless Services is currently sheltering more than eighty one 148 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 12: thousand individuals, a seventy five percent increase from the previous year. 149 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 12: Jeff Bellinger, Bloomberg Radio. 150 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 3: Donald Trump is scheduled to go on trial March twenty 151 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 3: fifth in his criminal case in New York, where he's 152 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 3: charged with falsifying business records in connection with hush money 153 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:46,559 Speaker 3: payments over alleged sexual encounters. Trump appeared by video before 154 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 3: a New York State Supreme Court justice who set the 155 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 3: trial date after going over an order that bar is 156 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 3: the former president from publicly disclosing details about witnesses or 157 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 3: other evidence. Chief Justice John Roberts, delivering his first public 158 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 3: comments outside the court since September, he defended the institution 159 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 3: against suggestions it was losing its legitimacy. 160 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 8: I want to assure people that I am committed to 161 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 8: making certain that we as a court adhere to the 162 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 8: highest standards of conduct. 163 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 3: Robert speaking at an awards ceremony the court facing slumping 164 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 3: public approval, have been a barrage of misconduct allegations. Jeffrey Garrell, 165 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 3: a longtime stakeholder in Manhattan's Flat Iron Building, and his 166 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 3: group of investors have won an auction for the iconic landmark. 167 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 3: It comes after years of battling over its future. Garrell, 168 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 3: chairman of GFP Real Estate, been one hundred and sixty 169 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 3: one million dollars for the wedge shaped tower. Winning the auction, 170 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 3: he said the owners would consider converting either part or 171 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 3: all of the building to apartments. And Martin Shirkelly, the 172 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 3: former pharmaceutical chief executive officer, who has served almost seven 173 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 3: years in prison for securities fraud, is now earning twenty 174 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 3: five dollars a month twenty five hundred dollars amou of 175 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 3: consulting for a law firm and living with the sister 176 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 3: in Queens. The US Probation Office says the forty year 177 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 3: old shore Kelly has had a mostly positive adjustment since 178 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 3: being released from prison last year. Global News twenty four 179 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 3: hours a day, Power five more than twenty seven hundred 180 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 3: journalists and analysts in more than one hundred twenty countries. 181 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 3: I'm John Tuckery, DC, is Bloomberg, Nathan. 182 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 2: Thank you, John. Time now for the Bloomberg Sports Update. 183 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 2: Good morning, John Stanshout, Good morning, Nathan. 184 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 4: Yankees back at the stadium with much improved Baltimore. Yanks 185 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 4: d Garrett Cole on the mound with the Orioles jumped 186 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 4: in front board nothing. After the Yanks rally to tie, 187 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 4: Baltimore reclaimed the lead, but the Yankees still like their 188 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 4: chances going to the bottom of the ninth considering who 189 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 4: they had leaning off. 190 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 3: Oh dude, swinging a fly ball, It's t to left field. 191 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 3: It is gonna go. 192 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 2: Hayes watches it is done. 193 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 14: Amo run. 194 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 3: Harry Judge ties the game. 195 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 2: We're a toll of o run just straight away. 196 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 4: Let fieldfa and the Yankee scored again tenth inning. They 197 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 4: won six to five. They've won five in a row twelve, 198 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 4: with their last fifteen improving to thirty and twenty. Also 199 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 4: in the Al East, Toronto ended a five game losing 200 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 4: streak by winning that Tampa Bay twenty to one. The 201 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 4: Mets five game win streak ended at Riglia seven to 202 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 4: two loss to the Cubs when Denver finished the sweep 203 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 4: of the Lakers in the West Final. That meant an 204 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 4: NBA playoff history, one hundred and fifty teams had a 205 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,719 Speaker 4: three to nothing lead. They all had gone on to 206 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 4: win the series. Will the Miami Heat be the one 207 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 4: hundred and fifty first. They still had the Celtics three 208 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 4: to one, but Boston State alive taking Game four in 209 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 4: Miami won sixteen to ninety nine a dominant second half 210 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 4: that included an eighteen to nothing run. 211 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 12: They saw the Celtics go from down nine to up nine. 212 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 4: So it won't be two sweeps in the conference finals 213 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 4: in the NBA, but it could be in the NHL. 214 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 4: Florida three nothing on Carolina Game four tonight in Vegas 215 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 4: now have three zip on Dallas. The Golden Knights won 216 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 4: game three to four nothing that the Jets offseason worked out. 217 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers had to take a seat for the injury. 218 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 4: NFL owners had to be extending the contractor Commissioner Roger 219 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 4: get Out through twenty twenty seven. 220 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 12: He's had the job since six. 221 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 2: John stash Hour Bloomberg Sport. 222 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,599 Speaker 5: Live from coast to coast, from New York to San Francisco, 223 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 5: Boston to Washington, DC, nationwide on Sirius Exam, the Bloomberg 224 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 5: Business app, and Bloomberg dot Com. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 225 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 5: Good morning. I'm Nathan Hagar. 226 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 2: Debt default inks may be starting to take hold for 227 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 2: markets at the Treasury Department's deadline now just eight days away. 228 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 2: In negotiations now to standstill in Washington, House Speaker Kevin 229 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 2: McCarthy summed it up after the latest round of talks yesterday. 230 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 2: We're not there yet. So I mean it's difficult because 231 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 2: you've got to be able to you take a couple 232 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 2: of days to write the bill, or you've got seventy 233 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 2: two hours here then you got the Senate to act. 234 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 2: I mean, this is why all the way back in 235 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 2: February we want to have an agreement. In Speaker McCarthy says, 236 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 2: a short term extension we'll leave things worse off than 237 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 2: they are right now. So let's take look at where 238 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 2: things stand. We're joined live by doctor Lindsay Newman, head 239 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 2: of Geopolitical thought Leadership at S and P Global Market Intelligence. Lindsay, 240 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: good morning. Where do you think things stand? Are the 241 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 2: odds going up that we actually see default in the US? 242 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 14: Thanks Nathan for having me on. So where things stand 243 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 14: is we know that Treasury Secretary Yellen sent a letter 244 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 14: updating Congress on Monday, saying essentially that with additional information 245 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 14: that they've had over the last week around spending, around 246 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 14: where things stand on the extraordinary measurements measures, it's highly 247 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 14: likely now that the Treasury will not be able to 248 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 14: satisfy its obligations if Congress does not act by early June, 249 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 14: and perhaps even as early as first of June. So 250 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 14: the X date appears to be rapidly approaching. And as 251 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 14: Kevin McCarthy said in that clip, they need at least 252 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 14: seventy two hours to review a bill in Congress before 253 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 14: they could potentially act, and the number of legislative days 254 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 14: are dwindling. We have seen both sides called the recent 255 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 14: meetings productive. When you and I last spoke, we talked 256 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 14: about how there was some horse train around certain dimensions 257 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 14: of spending. It now really seems like the conversation the 258 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 14: zone of negotiation is centering more broadly around this commitment 259 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 14: to spending limits to bring down the deficit. Republicans have 260 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 14: put forward their position and the limit, Save and Grow Act, 261 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 14: and we're here. Reportedly, White House has come back and 262 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 14: offered to freeze level spending at fiscal twenty twenty three levels, 263 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 14: and in terms of our baseline scenario, we're still at 264 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 14: the same place that we expect to see a deal 265 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 14: reached by that X state, something similar to the twenty 266 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 14: eleven scenario that we saw where Congress and the Executive 267 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 14: do agree to increase the debt limit in exchange for 268 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 14: future spending cuts. That approaching X state is going to 269 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 14: clarify the mind. 270 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, we have heard some doubts, though, raised by some Republicans, 271 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 2: including the majority leader in the House, Steve Scalise, about 272 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 2: whether that X state of June first is really as 273 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 2: firm as the Treasury Secretary seem to indicate. Does that 274 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 2: give a little bit of wiggle room? How do you 275 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: view that X state that's been going around. 276 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 14: We we certainly need to take Treasury sec. Yellen at 277 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 14: her word. They're they are updating the analysis that they 278 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 14: are that they are evaluating over the course of the week, 279 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 14: as she committed to last week when she sent that letter, 280 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 14: and we've moved from likely to breach to highly likely 281 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 14: to to breach should they should they not see a 282 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 14: resolution by by that X state, And again she's saying 283 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 14: June first. Kevin McCarthy himself said that to reach a deal. 284 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 14: They need to get to June first, and the impacts 285 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 14: Yellen said Yellen highlighted in her letter, but we've we've 286 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 14: also heard from both sides that could provide severe I 287 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 14: think her phrasing was severe hardship for American families. It's 288 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 14: going to affect US global position. It's going to potentially 289 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 14: affect she said, so far as the US ability to 290 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 14: defend their national security interest. So as we get closer 291 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 14: to that X state, the radius of impact has the 292 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 14: potential to expand. 293 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 2: As you mentioned, there isn't a lot of legislative days 294 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 2: left on the calendar to get something done, and we're 295 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 2: expecting that lawmakers are going to be leaving town for 296 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 2: the Memorial Day holiday in the next couple of days. Here, 297 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 2: how do you see the timeline. Can they get something 298 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 2: of an agreement agreed to in time for lawmakers to act. 299 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 14: We're hearing that they have been prepared, they have had 300 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 14: notification that they may need to be prepared to be 301 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 14: called back from the weekend away and in fact have 302 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 14: it be a working weekend. The conversations we know at 303 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 14: the negotiating level between the White House and Republican leadership 304 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 14: are ongoing, and as you say, time is short. The 305 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 14: current requirements, the current procedural requirements allow that the House 306 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 14: has seventy two hours to review a bill. They could 307 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 14: of course waive that in this instance, but that's seventy 308 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 14: two hours before even approving legislation. And as you say, 309 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 14: and as we all know, just looking at the calendar, 310 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 14: where we stand, if the X date is in fact 311 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 14: as close to June versus as we're hearing. 312 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 2: Just about thirty seconds left here. But I got to 313 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: ask you about the presidential race. With Florida Governor Ron 314 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 2: DeSantis expected to make get official tonight, does that shake 315 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 2: things up in twenty four? 316 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 14: The impact of the debt ceiling on the election is 317 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 14: something that we are of course watching. Polling suggests that 318 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 14: voters are quite split on who they would blame should 319 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 14: we reach it default. Again, that's not our baseline scenario, 320 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 14: but they are quite split on who would be to blame. 321 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 14: And we know that the domestic economy is always a 322 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 14: key issue for presidential elections. 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