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Speaker 1: Pretty light weekend to college football.

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Speaker 2: Next weekend's better. Jmak with the news heard on the news.

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Speaker 3: This is the Herdline news.

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Speaker 4: You won a college football winner, Buddy, Yeah, Miami Hurricanes

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Speaker 4: minus seventeen against USF. USF just took down the Gators.

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Speaker 4: Uh and they're still celebrating at USF. I think Miami

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Speaker 4: smashes him. Anyways, let's move on to the.

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Speaker 3: First story column.

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Speaker 4: That's CD Lamb, who appeared India Blazing five for the

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Speaker 4: first time in his life.

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Speaker 3: He had a rough week.

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Speaker 4: One FF credit him with four drops, the most since

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Speaker 4: Nase Harris in twenty twenty one and the most by

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Speaker 4: a wide receiver since Jerry Judy in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Lamb talked about how the drops impacted.

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Speaker 5: Him, going back to my fundamentals. I know what it is,

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Speaker 5: I know what to do.

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Speaker 3: Again's game one.

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Speaker 5: We got sixteen modies and that's just again the competitor

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Speaker 5: that I am and how much I cheat to the

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Speaker 5: game as far as being honest, and I'm just giving

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Speaker 5: it everything I got because I do love this I

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Speaker 5: love this game, I love this play. I love the

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Speaker 5: guys that I do it with. So as for me,

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Speaker 5: just heard him. I ended up bargaining.

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Speaker 2: He is the last thing I worry about with the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: He's all good, and I mean, George Pickens is talented,

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Speaker 1: but you can see the gap between Ceedee Lamb and

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Speaker 1: George Pickens when they're on the field together.

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Speaker 2: And who DAK trust.

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Speaker 1: And I guarantee you that this is one of my

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Speaker 1: bets they are going to make a point of going

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Speaker 1: back to Ceedee Lamb over six and a half catches

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Speaker 1: is one of my favorite bets of the way. I

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Speaker 1: think they're going to really because listen, CD really is

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Speaker 1: the DAK and CD right now are easily now that

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Speaker 1: Mike has gone, the two most important players Brian Schottenheimer,

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Speaker 1: and he needs a double down on DAK and CD Lamb.

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Speaker 1: At the home opener against the Giants.

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Speaker 4: If I'm the Giants, I just try to take away

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Speaker 4: CD Lamb. You know, I'll say, hey, Pickin's gonna beat us. Fine,

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Speaker 4: you know Jake Ferguson Javonte would go for I would

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Speaker 4: do my best to take away CD Limb.

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Speaker 3: The Eagles could not do that. Colin. I think it's

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Speaker 3: a smart bet. You had thirteen targets in week one.

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Speaker 3: We should have easily had ten eleven catches.

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Speaker 4: Next up, let's go to my Jets. They were outstanding

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Speaker 4: in Week one. You could argue nobody looked better than

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Speaker 4: the Jets that in defeat. Justin Fields had three touchdowns

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Speaker 4: that late hit from Jalen Ramsey. That kind of sense

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Speaker 4: the loss. Wilson knows they're not done yet. And there's

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Speaker 4: a lot more where that came from.

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Speaker 6: This game.

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Speaker 2: Is it rewards people that I love? It is the

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Speaker 2: way I see it.

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Speaker 5: They love and he loves the day, and he playing

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Speaker 5: the right way and has the right mindset. Every time

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Speaker 5: it takes that deal they go and uh, you know

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Speaker 3: So when your quarterbacks doing that like you got no choice.

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Speaker 3: I'm ana pop up after you taking that. Ya, I'm

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Speaker 3: a whatever it may be, because you see him do it.

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Speaker 1: So Yeah, I don't think that offense looks quite as

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Speaker 4: Huh You sure about that? Were you impressed by Buffalo?

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Speaker 4: They couldn't tackle Derrick Henry?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know he's a again that what is

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Speaker 1: the rule of football? If you win but play poorly?

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Speaker 1: And Buffalo defensively was did not play good football game.

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Speaker 1: I think there's some scoring in this. I think it's

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Speaker 2: I would definitely take the Jets.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I took a nibble of the Jets just so

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Speaker 3: A rooting interest. I think it'll be a good game.

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Speaker 3: I gotta be honest.

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Speaker 4: Of all the units of the contenders, like Green Bay

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Speaker 3: I thought the Buffalo defense was.

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Speaker 4: Really really bad, but as you said, they faced the Ravens,

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Speaker 4: who are a machine. Final story, Colin, we haven't mentioned

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Speaker 3: So h have you been following what's going on?

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Speaker 4: Because reports indicate shadere is not even leading the scout

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Speaker 3: I know that would be run by Bailey Zappi.

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Speaker 4: Shadur is getting no practice reps behind Flacco and Dylan Gabriel.

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Speaker 4: We spent like the entire summer talking about this guy,

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Speaker 4: and now he's not even running the scout team.

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Speaker 2: Colent, I know it's crazy. I mean, it really is,

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Speaker 2: is it?

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Speaker 6: Though?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I didn't.

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Speaker 1: Think he was a great prospect. I thought cam Ward

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Speaker 4: Problem during the season with everybody, not just us, everybody,

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Speaker 3: Call it everyone.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not even running a scout team on the

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Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns. That is a bit of a drop off.

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Speaker 4: So there's a bit of a disconnect here.

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Speaker 1: Come on, well, it tells me and I one of

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Speaker 1: the things that I remember when Drew Locke came into

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Speaker 1: to do hard to be cool. That's a huge turn

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Speaker 1: off for me. Johnny Manziel had that, like, you're not

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Speaker 1: speeding ticket, legendary room. It's like, you got to get

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Speaker 1: buttoned up by about fifteen years old. Yeah, and I think,

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Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, it's unfair, but there are certain professional

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Speaker 1: more mature. You can't come over with a hangover. Quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: think sometimes Shador comes in as silly and playful, and

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Speaker 4: What if it's more, what if he's just not cut

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Speaker 3: Is that is that possible?

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Speaker 4: I mean, forget the maturity just as a football player.

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Speaker 4: Is it Is it possible? I mean every team passed

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Speaker 4: and now they're like, eh, scout team, but let's bring

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Speaker 3: Like that's alarming.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't disagree.

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Speaker 3: I don't know where he goes from here.

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Speaker 4: I mean, again, this is a guy who was like

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Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, I I you know, in his college teammate,

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Speaker 1: Travis Hunter is nothing but talent, Like he is just unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: But Travis didn't get the play that Shador did in college.

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Speaker 1: Some of it you know obviously the dad, but it

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Speaker 1: The day before the draft, the people I trust, all

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Speaker 1: And he is now in Week two, not even with

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Speaker 1: Pickett wasn't good, but multiple teams gave him a shot.

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Speaker 4: Right right, right, I mean, shadur Remember this is the

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Speaker 4: you know, hey, man, stay grinding, don't don't lose the

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Speaker 3: And he's a young guy with money and.

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Speaker 2: Mack with a news.

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Speaker 3: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the

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Speaker 1: The biggest one o'clock game, and I mean Detroit hosting

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Speaker 1: Chicago feels huge. Chicago can go. Oh and two, they

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Speaker 1: got the Cowboys, the Raiders and the bye coming up.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think this year we're judging the Bears

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Speaker 1: on wins as much as we are. They've got to

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Speaker 1: save this quarterback. The Lions have the Ravens. Next week

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Speaker 1: you go oh and two into Baltimore, it's oh to

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Speaker 1: three and you got about three percent chance to make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. But I don't know. I mean, I you

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Speaker 1: watched him. I watched him. All the data tells you

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Speaker 1: Caleb's struggling on overthrows, on the operations pre snap, on

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Speaker 1: accuracy on the layups. Dave wantstat on if he believes

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Speaker 1: Caleb can be saved by Ben Johnson.

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Speaker 8: who I'm a fan of? He said afterwards, I should

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Speaker 8: have run the ball more. They have thirty five passes

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Speaker 8: and only twenty runs. Okay, you know, so how do

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Speaker 8: you help a young quarterback. Everybody knows that you take

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Speaker 8: some pressure off him by running the ball and then

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is j Mack for the record.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the props are on Caleb Williams,

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Speaker 1: but I also think this is important and I believe

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Speaker 1: of looks against the Giants, and watch Swift in the

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Speaker 1: I think if you go look at that first series

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Speaker 2: They threw the ball too much.

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Speaker 1: So I honestly believe the under on Caleb's pass it.

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Speaker 4: So the problem with that Colin is didn't Caleb start

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Speaker 1: To me, these guys have way more throws Thanksgiving year two.

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Speaker 4: I want to see first half, Colin. Are the Eagles throwing.

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Speaker 3: Less than everybody? First? Maybe that's accurate, but again fourth.

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Speaker 1: So you're doing the Oregon, You're there. Oregon's plan Northwestern.

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Speaker 1: I think you and I have talked about this. I

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Speaker 1: I never really thought of them, even when they were

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Speaker 1: I mean, they've always recruited well, but not Ohio State

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Speaker 9: So they're finding the guys that And once again, Colin

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Speaker 9: it's endless the amount of money that you can get

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Speaker 9: that you have Detroit right next to Ann Arbor, you know,

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Speaker 9: the one school of state colleges out there by themselves,

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Speaker 9: but they have Philadelphia and Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: So I think there's a lot to it.

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Speaker 9: You know what's funny is one of the coaches once

447
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Speaker 9: said is that the SEC used to pay players, and

448
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Speaker 9: everybody pays players. So I'm not saying that happened, but

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Speaker 9: that's what they're saying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's what I'm saying. So I'll say, Okay.

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Speaker 1: So I saw something this week. I love Sark, I

452
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Speaker 1: really do. I think he's great. But ars Manning's planning

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Speaker 1: the game, and I saw him wins during the game.

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Speaker 1: And my take, his football players wins all the time,

455
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you get hit, you wins.

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Speaker 1: But one of the reporters came out and said to Sark,

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Speaker 1: you know, one of your players kind of wins during

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Speaker 1: the game, and Sark kind of got, you know, he

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Speaker 1: kind of got after the guy, and I got and

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Speaker 1: I thought to myself, listen, man, before you win that Natty.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of pressure at Texas. I would argue

462
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Speaker 1: the toughest job in college football. Take coaches out, maybe

463
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Speaker 1: quarterback at Ohio State and quarterback at Texas.

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Speaker 2: And I feel like with Sark has a lot of

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Speaker 2: donor money.

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Speaker 1: And when you watch Sark kind of get riled up

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Speaker 1: at that press conference, do you think he's feeling a

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Speaker 1: little bit of pressure.

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 9: I think it comes with that job, and I feel

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Speaker 9: I feel the same about Sark as you do so

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Speaker 9: much respect for that guy. But I kind of saw

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Speaker 9: that interaction with the reporter and I wondered, why, you know,

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Speaker 9: that's a legitimate question. If he's hurting, then just tell

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Speaker 9: him hurt it. If he's not, so you know, he's fine,

476
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Speaker 9: But I don't so I don't know if there's something

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Speaker 9: behind door number two with that. I saw the same

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Speaker 9: thing on video. But you're right, you know, players wins

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Speaker 9: all the time. But you know, I do believe that

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Speaker 9: was a legitimate question, you know, is your quarterback hurt?

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Speaker 9: Because I actually heard that from someone at Fox. They say, yeah,

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Speaker 9: he's a little dinged up. But you know, I didn't

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Speaker 9: see that during the High State game because they ran

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Speaker 9: him quite a bit. So yeah, I don't understand that interaction,

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Speaker 9: and maybe there is something there.

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Speaker 1: Finally, Bryce Underwood's the real deal. But Oklahoma's got more

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Speaker 1: juniors and seniors, Oklahoma's got a great quarterback. Oklahoma was

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Speaker 1: the much better team.

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Speaker 2: How much? Final question?

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Speaker 1: When you have a star quarterback as a freshman right

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Speaker 1: out of high school, would you be worried that you

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Speaker 1: how much? Can you just let him play? Or would

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Speaker 1: you still kind of feel like, Hey, he's a kid,

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Speaker 1: he's going to learn.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to put him out to the wolves.

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Speaker 1: What would you do if you had Bryce Underwood and

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Speaker 1: your Michigan He's going to be great?

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Speaker 9: You know, I just I even said that on Big

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Speaker 9: Ten Network. I say, pump the brake. He's going to

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Speaker 9: be fine. Freshman quarterbacks don't go into Norman, Oklahoma and

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Speaker 9: coach and play against the Brett Bendables defense. I've tried

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Speaker 9: that with veteran quarterbacks. He's that good of a defensive coach.

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Speaker 9: You put that on the road in Norman and against

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Speaker 9: great players at Oklahom which they look like a much

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Speaker 9: better team. What did you think was going to happen.

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Speaker 9: That's going to happen. It's not his job to go

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Speaker 9: win that game. You know whose job it is. It's

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Speaker 9: the other players around him, and they didn't step up.

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Speaker 9: Don't don't put this one on Bryce Underwood. Put them

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Speaker 9: on the defense and the rest of the offense. You know,

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Speaker 9: where was the run game? Oh, you can't say that

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Speaker 9: the quarterback lost that game or that freshman quarterback is

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Speaker 9: going to struggle that game. Everyone else has got to

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Speaker 9: elevate and they didn't do it. Urban Meyer on a Friday.

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Speaker 1: We're going to be getting Urban on Friday's lot and

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Speaker 1: I absolutely love it.

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Speaker 2: It's great.

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Speaker 1: Seen you and have fun tomorrow. I may just stop

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Speaker 1: by Evanston just up the road from where we're at

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 9: Coach, thanks a beautiful setting here in northwestern Oh.

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Speaker 2: It is absolutely stunning.

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Speaker 1: And with that we take a break. Jmack returns or

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Speaker 1: his picks of the week.

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Speaker 7: Neck be sure to catch live editions of the Herd

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Speaker 7: weekdays at noon Easter not a Empacific.

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Speaker 1: It's only week two of the NFL season. The stakes

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Speaker 1: are already rising. Bounce back performances. What to do with

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins Patriots underachieved Miami, New England. Nope, I didn't

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Speaker 1: pick it. Jmack didn't either. Are you ready for tomorrow's headlines?

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Speaker 1: Let's yeah, I think I think we have one in common.

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Speaker 1: All right, tomorrow's headlines today, let's make some NFL predictions.

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Speaker 1: Forty nine Ers at the Saints. I'm surprised you took

534
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Speaker 1: this game because the Niners we don't even know.

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Speaker 2: I mean they got six starters that are banged up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, not a great move by me. I

537
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Speaker 4: like seven games on the board, So this was kind

538
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Speaker 4: of a late edition. But I'm rocking with my guys.

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Speaker 4: The headline for forty nine Ers versus the Saints will

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Speaker 4: be I'm loving it. Take bite into Big Mac. Yes,

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Speaker 4: I think mac Jones. Listen, I'm not gonna call him

542
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Speaker 4: being the next Geno Smith or Baker Mayfield or Sam Darnold,

543
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Speaker 4: but there is enough talent in mac Jones that I

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Speaker 4: think can marry that with Kyle Shanahan's offense and schemes.

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Speaker 3: This could be a good performance for mac Jones.

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Speaker 4: Okay, despite the injuries, I see Juwan Jennings not practicing obviously,

547
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Speaker 4: kittle out, I think mac Jones is going to be

548
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Speaker 4: able to move the football. Do you remember when Kyle

549
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Speaker 4: Shanahan had a backup name Nick Mullins. He showed up

550
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Speaker 4: and it was like, who's this guy? Shanahan can do that,

551
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Speaker 4: Kevin O'Connell. These great coaches can find backups to come

552
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Speaker 4: in and dominate. And oh, by the way, Saints offensive

553
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Speaker 4: line still beat up. They did not show well last week.

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Speaker 2: Colin.

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Speaker 4: I just punched into one of your favorite search machines,

556
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Speaker 4: chat GVT. How has Alvin Kamara done against the Niners defense?

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Speaker 3: Here we go three games, last three games.

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Speaker 4: Eight carries fifteen yards, seven carries thirteen yards, thirteen carries yards.

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Speaker 4: He sense a theme. He's not gonna be able to

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Speaker 4: run a lot against solid company. Give me the Niners

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Speaker 4: here on the road.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headlines today. This was a stay away game to

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Speaker 1: a lot of emotion though. Bears at the Lions. A

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Speaker 1: man with courage, j Max is gonna make.

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Speaker 4: A pick Listen, the week two is big. Don't overreact

566
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Speaker 4: to what you saw in week one. We liked the

567
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Speaker 4: Lions coming into season. We didn't love them, but we

568
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Speaker 4: liked him.

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Speaker 3: Now everybody's selling the headline for Lions.

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Speaker 4: Bears will be rolling in the deep dish, Ben and

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Speaker 4: Caleb can't top the charts. I'm selling at that graphic,

572
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Speaker 4: just outstanding work. I like Destroit here, Colin. I'm sorry

573
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Speaker 4: everything that I see about Goff's history against the Bears.

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Speaker 4: He's won five of six, put up some really good

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Speaker 4: numbers in the process. I didn't see anything overwhelming from

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Speaker 4: the Bears, especially in the fourth quarter stopping JJ McCarthy,

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Speaker 4: which they couldn't that.

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Speaker 3: I think they're gonna be able to now go on.

579
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Speaker 4: The road in the indoor fast track and slow down

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Speaker 4: or Detroit team, Colin. You know the Lions are gonna

581
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Speaker 4: be fired up. I'm a Rossain Brown. We had the

582
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Speaker 4: clip in herdline this week. He's like cursing, we're taking

583
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Speaker 4: down Ben Johnson. This is a big, big game for

584
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Speaker 4: the Lions and at home. I like golfing Company, and

585
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 4: this could get away from Caleb and Ben over under

586
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Speaker 4: Tyson bageent fourth quarter passes thrown, Colin.

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Speaker 1: If this is a blowout, give me the Lions here comfortably.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headlines today. I think we'll get agreement on this.

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Speaker 1: Eagles at the regressing Chiefs.

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Speaker 4: So I'm working with the producers. You know, during the

591
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Speaker 4: week they're like, Jay, we need one more. I'm like,

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Speaker 4: I can't decide. Let me go big, Colin. The headline

593
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Speaker 4: for Eagles Chiefs will be under the feather Birds give

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Speaker 4: Chiefs the football flu Oh yeah, Philadelphia Eagles get the win.

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Speaker 3: Colin, I've been consistent on this all summer.

596
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Speaker 4: I didn't like what I saw from Kansas City at

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Speaker 4: the end of last season. I know they got lucky

598
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Speaker 4: in the one score games eleven or zero, but they

599
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 4: came out against the Chargers pretty flat, and I just

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Speaker 4: I don't know where the talent is. You give me

601
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Speaker 4: worthy yes or no, it doesn't really matter. I don't

602
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Speaker 4: think they've got enough.

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Speaker 3: Dudes. I don't like the offensive line.

604
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Speaker 4: And let's be real, Jalen Carter will return everybody's reaction

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00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 4: Colin from Eagles Cowboys with Eagles. Eagles defense didn't look good.

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Speaker 4: They couldn't slow down Dac. What's going on? Hello, Jalen

607
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 4: Carter maybe their best defensive player who was out for

608
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Speaker 4: the entire game. So now you put him in the middle,

609
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,959
Speaker 4: and suddenly Nolan Smith off the edge, who looks real, Bendy,

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Speaker 4: I think the Eagles are good now, Listen, Kansas City

611
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 4: probably comes out hair on fire. Yeah, coming back from

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Speaker 4: Razilly get to early league. Come on, and I think

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Speaker 4: the Eagles come back and beat him. And I got

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Speaker 4: Philly winning and casey oho and two tomorrow's headlines.

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Speaker 1: Today, this will be a hard game, just stumach, regardless

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Speaker 1: of the outcome. Not exactly TV Magic Panthers at Arizona.

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Speaker 2: I think this was the one game. This was my.

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Speaker 1: Last pick that I dropped, so I liked Arizona in

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Speaker 1: this spot.

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Speaker 2: This was my last.

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Speaker 1: This was my six. Now my six pick last week

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Speaker 1: was the Vikings Monday Night football over the Bears.

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Speaker 2: That was right this. I liked Arizona here, but it

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Speaker 2: didn't make the cut.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I can understand that. I mean, hell, very

626
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 4: few people are interested in the Carolina Panthers and Arizona

627
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 4: didn't look great last week.

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Speaker 3: However, the headline.

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Speaker 4: For Arizona Carolina will be Bryce Crispy treat and then snap,

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Speaker 4: crackle and drop. Listen man, Colin. They came out against

631
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Speaker 4: a Jacksonville defense that was bad last year and they

632
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 4: couldn't do a damn thing. Then you get like the

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Speaker 4: lightning delay which really delayed things, and they couldn't do

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Speaker 4: anything much after that. Colin I'm not selling Bryce Young.

635
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Speaker 4: I know some people who know him. He's a great guy.

636
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 4: I remember you sat next to him on a flight.

637
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 4: I like this kid a lot. I just don't like

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Speaker 4: this team, and Arizona did not look great putting away

639
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Speaker 4: New Orleans last week.

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Speaker 3: That being said, big revenge spot.

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Speaker 4: Remember last year in December, Arizona went to Carolina and

642
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 4: they were Arizona was in the mix for a playoff

643
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 4: spot and they really had two turnovers that killed them.

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00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 4: Carolina won in overtime and that kind of ended their season.

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Speaker 4: I think Arizona gets revenge here. Kyler Murray was ill

646
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 4: last week and looked at it took five sacks. I

647
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 4: think I think they're fine. I think Arizona in Fantasy

648
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Speaker 4: Survivor load up, they get to win here.

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Speaker 1: Finally, Tomorrow's headlines today, this was another game. I think

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Speaker 1: I know where you're going on this and I think

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Speaker 1: this could be your strongest pick.

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00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 2: Bucks at Texan.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a big one. I like Houston a lot.

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00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 4: Here the headline for Texans Tampa Bay on Monday, and

655
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Speaker 4: I will be bucked around and found out tall Texans

656
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Speaker 4: teach in lessons.

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00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 3: I like the Houston Texans to bounce back here.

658
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Speaker 4: The injury report isn't as bad as it appeared against

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Speaker 4: the Rams. Remember last week they had some guys beat

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Speaker 4: up Houston's good Man and I talked about some of

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Speaker 4: the stats.

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Speaker 3: This week.

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Speaker 4: Tampa Bay gave up over one hundred and ninety yards

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Speaker 4: after the catch against Atlanta. Okay, Nico Collins the company

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Speaker 4: could be feasting this week. I didn't like what I

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Speaker 4: saw on Tampa despite the win over the Falcons. That

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Speaker 4: I'm lower than market on Tampa this season. I think

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Speaker 4: Houston's defense really annihilates Tampa. By the way, Tristan Wurf's

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Speaker 4: Colin is practicing, so that's a potentially good sign they're

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Speaker 4: gonna need him against will Anderson. And by the way,

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Speaker 4: will Anderson and company that defense is not far behind Denver.

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Speaker 4: So I'm on the Texans a minus two and a half.

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Speaker 4: This will definitely touch three by kickoff. I like the

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Speaker 4: Texans to win.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like your picks a lot.

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Speaker 1: Now you're making me feel like I should have taken

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Speaker 1: Panthers Cardinals.

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Speaker 4: Well, I probably should have dumped Denver in there as well.

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Speaker 4: I like your Denver pick. I like Atlanta against Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised you didn't take the Titans against the beat

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Speaker 1: up round.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well listen, this is wins and I did pitch

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Speaker 4: that and they were like, well, we don't want to

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Speaker 4: just talk spread. I did bet that obviously, but I

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Speaker 4: don't know that the Titans win out right, So yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm on Titans as well. All right, you and the

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Speaker 4: staff battling, you know, Colin, this could be a multiple

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Speaker 4: jet ski weekend for both of us.

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Speaker 3: I like our picks a lot man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's a yeah, you know, I'm doing occasional.

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Speaker 1: I won't do it every week maybe, but I'm doing

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Speaker 1: a casion no props now because I just think people

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Speaker 1: are betting props. I started looking in the offseason. It just,

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Speaker 1: you know, people how much they've bet props and over unders,

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Speaker 1: and that's like a big part of what people like

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Speaker 1: to bet. And I also think it's harder to hit

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Speaker 1: on a lot of picks because the market's gotten more sophisticated.

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Speaker 1: I think people out there watching us and fans are

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Speaker 1: just better, smarter, better than they've ever been. The lines

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Speaker 1: are tougher. I actually think there's only one line this

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Speaker 1: week I thought was weird, and I thought the Titans

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Speaker 1: getting five and a half was a weird line. I

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Speaker 1: would have guessed that would have been like three to

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Speaker 1: three and a half. So that's why I made the pick.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, that feels like not a mistake by Vegas,

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Speaker 1: but a very better friendly pick to me.

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Speaker 4: Well, let's see what's up with the Rams injuries to

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Speaker 4: the offensive line. Big Friday is a big practice day.

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Speaker 4: I noticed you didn't do Seahawks and Steelers. That's a

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Speaker 4: to me, fascinating game. I like Seattle, but a lot

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Speaker 4: of other people seem to like Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: I think Pittsburgh because I think Mike Tomlin was humiliated

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Speaker 1: by that defensive effort. Seattle doesn't have much of an

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Speaker 1: offense anyway. Seattle is one of those teams that has

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Speaker 1: kind of one way to win. Run the ball, keep

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Speaker 1: the score low. They don't have a number one receiver,

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Speaker 1: so Seattle has one way to win and Pittsburgh humiliated

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Speaker 1: by their defensive effort. I think this is a tough, physical,

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Speaker 1: twenty three to twenty, low scoring game, but I don't

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Speaker 1: know who wins. But I don't think there's going to

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Speaker 1: be a lot of points. And with that we are done.

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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer stop by Tom Brady This week stop by

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Speaker 1: Dave Wnstein.

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Speaker 2: How good was that?

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Speaker 1: All that info on the Bears and the Packers and

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins.

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Speaker 2: We'll see it Monday. It's the hurt