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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold SNR Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive by Al While he is, Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson and Matt. We are just a week away, basically

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Speaker 2: seven days after today's show, from the start of the

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Speaker 2: NFL season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how about it? Yeah, opening nights. We've got Lions

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Speaker 3: at Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Lions and Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: Oh mine mine? Yeah, and then Steelers aren't that long after.

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Speaker 3: They're not so stretcher.

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Speaker 2: We are coming down the home stretch and well, the

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Speaker 2: Steelers making an interesting move. Yeah today, Well they haven't

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Speaker 2: announced it. It's not official yet, but it's been you know,

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Speaker 2: it's been said out there obviously, signing Desmond King, a

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Speaker 2: guy we brought up. I think we brought him up

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Speaker 2: the other day when he was released. I was kind

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Speaker 2: of surprised at Baltimore didn't make a play for him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of more corner needy

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Speaker 3: teams out there than Pittsburgh, and I think he's a

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Speaker 3: good fit here. So you should we break down what

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Speaker 3: he is? I mean, why not?

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Speaker 2: That's what we're to do. I really liked.

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Speaker 3: Him coming out of Iowa. He's won the Thorpe Award

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Speaker 3: one year I think as a junior for best defensive

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Speaker 3: back in the in the country. He has some punt

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Speaker 3: return experience too. I don't know the kickoffs and kickoffs. Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: He's five to ten, he's five nine and seven eights,

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Speaker 3: but he's over two hundred pounds. Like he's a wide bodied,

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Speaker 3: wide shoulder Sydney Crosby kind of build, you know, SpongeBob

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Speaker 3: kind of build. I mean, like a square guy, not

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Speaker 3: the long, lean guy, and mostly a slot. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he's been a six year player, and he was a

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Speaker 3: slot heavily those first four years.

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Speaker 2: He's played some on the outside a lot.

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Speaker 3: The last two years though, So I don't know if

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Speaker 3: that's just because Houston's a disaster and he was forced to,

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Speaker 3: but I thought that was really encouraged. And I went

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Speaker 3: and looked at those snaps on Pro Football Focus, and

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Speaker 3: it used to be like an eight to one ratio

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Speaker 3: inside to out. Now it's like a six to one

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Speaker 3: ratio outside to end. He's tough, he can blitz. I

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Speaker 3: would think they're looking at him more as a slot,

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Speaker 3: but I don't think you have to he.

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Speaker 2: Could also play some free safety.

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Speaker 3: He could also play some free safety. He's a physical guy,

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Speaker 3: good near the line of scrimmage. He's not the fastest,

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Speaker 3: I mean he's not you know, a huge difference maker.

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Speaker 3: But I think he gets a media playing time here.

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Speaker 3: I mean maybe not the nickel, but certainly the time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. I mean it certainly adds to your depth,

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Speaker 2: you know, at multiple positions. And you're talking about a

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Speaker 2: guy with nine career interceptions. He's got five the last

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Speaker 2: two years. Is a willing tackler, is a he's got

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Speaker 2: eight and a half career sack so he's a good

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Speaker 2: blitzer as well, right, right, there's a lot there to

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Speaker 2: like if in fact, if you look at it last

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Speaker 2: year he had ten tackles for a loss as a cornerbacks, that.

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Speaker 3: Is a lot. I mean on a Houston defense. It

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Speaker 3: was not very good, very good, and he's played well

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Speaker 3: for them. I mean, I know there's a new coach there,

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Speaker 3: there's a little bit of a new scheme change. Maybe

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Speaker 3: they just want youth across the board on that team

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Speaker 3: and save a couple of bucks.

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Speaker 2: But I'm still just twenty eight years old. I mean

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Speaker 2: there's you know, should be kind of still in the prime,

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Speaker 2: maybe not the prime of his career, but you know.

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Speaker 3: They just tread on the tires.

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Speaker 2: He's certainly a guy that will help your team this

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Speaker 2: year for sure.

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Speaker 3: No, I like to pick up quite a bit, and

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Speaker 3: in turn, they're gonna let Man the punter go fine,

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Speaker 3: you know. I mean, I think in one more defensive

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Speaker 3: back just makes you sleep easier at night, you know.

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Speaker 3: And he's a quality player. He's an NFL player.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, an inside outside guy that gives you some flexibility there.

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Speaker 2: And you know, Mike Tollman was asked today about it, Well,

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Speaker 2: your team looks like it is pretty good depth, and

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Speaker 2: he said, well, everybody should feel kind of feel that way. Now,

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Speaker 2: depth looks great. We didn't have any big injuries in

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Speaker 2: training camp, he said, But that's going to happen. Your

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Speaker 2: depth is going to be tested over the course of

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Speaker 2: a season.

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Speaker 3: It hasn't been tested yet. But I think they're not wrong.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I still think their bottom ten is better

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Speaker 2: Yeah, ideally this would have been Corey Trice's spot.

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Speaker 3: I would have thought, yeah, right, But you know, if

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Speaker 3: that's your only major injury of a guy that probably

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Speaker 3: it's not so bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you tell you go from a guy who was

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Speaker 2: a seventh round pick, you know, who might have been

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Speaker 2: on scholarship a little bit this year, probably wasn't going

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Speaker 2: to play a lot, I would to a guy that

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Speaker 2: well now has played a lot of He's played ninety

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Speaker 2: five career NFL games, He's got fifty three starts under

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Speaker 2: was a nickel corner.

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Speaker 3: Oh like nine under snaps last year.

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Speaker 2: Last two years he's played a nine hundred snaps. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: a good a good, solid pickup. Again, I'm just surprised

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Speaker 2: that there weren't more teams out there.

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Speaker 3: I know of any medical I don't think he's super

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Speaker 3: expensive or anything like that.

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Speaker 2: Well this, this is this is the thought that came

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Speaker 2: to my mind. I was listening to a to a

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Speaker 2: from Baltimore and they were talking obviously about the Ravens,

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Speaker 2: and he said, look, the secondary is a mess right now.

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Speaker 2: Is their pass rush is a mess right now? And

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Speaker 2: he was asked about, you know, well, who's going to

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Speaker 2: be this, you know, the the main receiver for this team,

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Speaker 2: And he did not say Odell Beckham. Really, you spent

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Speaker 2: fifteen million dollars to bring in Odell Beckham and he's

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Speaker 2: not going to be your number one target.

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Speaker 3: Did he say Bateman or is he just say Andrews?

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Speaker 2: He said Andrews, and then anybody's guess.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I still think there's a lot of uncertainty with

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So, I mean they overspent to get Odell Beckham,

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Speaker 2: and in turn, it costs some opportunities to make moves

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, I see what you're going with that, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean because disaster, as coaches are saying, you know,

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Speaker 3: most team's depth hasn't been tested, but the Ravens already had. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and they could use an NFL cornerback, which frankly he's

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Speaker 3: not as good as Marlon Humphrey, but that's how they

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Speaker 3: use Humphrey. He's an inside out.

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Speaker 2: Well, they could have used this guy inside and pushed

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Speaker 2: Marlon Humphrey to the outside and make and they would

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Speaker 2: have been a better defense. As it is now, they're

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Speaker 2: and Humphrey is.

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Speaker 3: Not even a Valley irony, right. Interesting, So again along

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Speaker 3: those lines, I guess I'm shocked more teams didn't put

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Speaker 3: in for him. I'm a little shocked the Texans moved

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Speaker 3: on from him, although they're in a much different place

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Speaker 3: than the Ravens or Steelers, of course. And I think

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Speaker 3: it's a Steelers gain. I mean, I think this is

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Speaker 3: a really nice addition that'll help soon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just look at the moves that the Steelers

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Speaker 2: have made this offseason, really less two off seasons. They've

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Speaker 2: been aggressive. They haven't had to pay a franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 2: And you have the opportunity to make these kind of

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Speaker 3: You be really light on your feet and okay, it

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Speaker 3: was boom, Okay, we don't have to go to cam

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Speaker 2: Right. There's there's been none of that because they don't

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Speaker 3: They don't need to, and they're set up really well.

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Speaker 3: As we mentioned. I think us and everybody listening is

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Speaker 3: excited about this roster. They're not set to lose a lot.

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Speaker 3: They're still quite young, you know, so they're picking up

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Speaker 3: some late picks in the process too. So it's a

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Speaker 3: nice blend for now and later.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I just you know, he keep looking

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Speaker 2: at this, you know, trying to trying to do the

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Speaker 2: twenty thousand foot flyover and say, Okay, what am I

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Speaker 2: missing here with this team? What am I What am

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Speaker 2: I not seeing here? Because maybe I am too close

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Speaker 3: Maybe you know, sure you're optimistic, and.

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Speaker 2: I just can't find anything. I just can't.

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Speaker 3: I'm very confident to pick. It's going to be a

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Speaker 3: good player, you know, I mean and take and be

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Speaker 3: a better player than he was last year. One thing

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Speaker 3: I was slightly concerned was I thought they were a

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Speaker 3: but now they're not.

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Speaker 2: It was the same question I had an inside linebacker

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Speaker 2: to start training him, like they just they still need

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Speaker 3: Who fit the bill perfectly.

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Speaker 2: I talked about, Hey, there's a similar they need one

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Speaker 2: more defensive back. When then they go make and make

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is they're not starved.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to say it's on Steeler like, but

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Speaker 2: it's kind of on Steeler like.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they on Roethlisberger, you're.

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Speaker 2: Alike, right, they do have the ability to do those

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Speaker 3: Right, just a lot very active. I mean, whether it's

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Speaker 3: trading guys or even just keeping man for that day

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Speaker 3: with the anticipation that they're going to probably pick up

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Speaker 3: a corner. And I don't know if they knew it

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Speaker 3: they're thinking we're probably gonna you know, put in for

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Speaker 3: at least one of those guys. I mean, obviously there

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I haven't seen any contract details on this yet

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Speaker 2: with with Desmond King, but we'll see. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: assume it's either a one or two year deal. This

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Speaker 2: is not something long term. It's probably a one, probably

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Speaker 2: a one. But that's fine because if he goes, if

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Speaker 2: he has a good year this year and then you

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Speaker 2: don't resign him, now maybe you get something. You know, again,

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Speaker 2: you play the cam game. Yeah, if you do like

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Speaker 2: what you see there, you just.

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Speaker 3: You know, you can give it an up.

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Speaker 2: Nothing, that's a little bit of capture. That's the thing

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Speaker 2: that you know. When they made the trade for Allan Robinson,

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Speaker 2: you know, people are like, oh my god, you know

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Speaker 2: he's over the hill. He's this, he's that. They didn't

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Speaker 3: Really they didn't.

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Speaker 2: They swapped, they swapped late round draft.

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Speaker 3: Picks, and the Rams picked up a lot of that cap.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like this is this is almost like they traded

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Speaker 2: Kendrick Green to Houston for a six round draft pick

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Speaker 3: If you want to look at it that way, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's kind of what happened. He absolutely would

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Speaker 3: But it's in the ballpark.

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Speaker 2: It's in the same conversation, right, It's a.

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Speaker 3: He was running with the ones all pre season with that.

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Speaker 2: You know this also because of his return abilities, gives

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Speaker 3: That's a good point, and I'm not criticizing the former

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Speaker 2: Think some of that, Matt is the way the NFL

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Speaker 3: Well, Stingley is going to be one of the right guys.

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Speaker 2: You know that, And so they say, we're just gonna

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Speaker 3: And I didn't even look.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's becoming very common now those couple

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Speaker 2: So he was just looking here at on. He signed

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Speaker 3: So it's the type of player shorter.

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Speaker 2: Those shorter contracts are more the norm now in today's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good point. It makes you a little more binding,

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Speaker 2: So for the players, it's it's you know, stay healthy.

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Speaker 3: It's great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when he signed that deal with Houston, he got

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Speaker 2: if I sign a two year deal and you guarantee

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, guaranteed contracts are interesting to me because

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Speaker 2: All he lost on this year's deal. He had a

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Speaker 3: That's it. That's all the only thing financially he loses

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Speaker 2: With well, basically basically it was a million. He got

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Speaker 3: You're gonna get a raise.

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Speaker 3: So he's happy as could be. Goes to a winning team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you change your you know, you change your scenery.

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Speaker 3: The way, Yeah, I thought about that too. The iowas

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Speaker 2: So you know, it's it's just very interesting that when

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Speaker 3: Long as you stay healthier. Don't Russell Wilson your career away.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, okay, I'll take you're gonna give me a

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Speaker 3: Sign for that. Yeah. Basically, all it is is just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, even if you get half the bag, even if

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Speaker 3: Yeah. It's not so bad, and it makes for a

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Speaker 3: It gives you more options like I'm a little old

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Speaker 3: It's not the case at all.

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Speaker 2: I'm not anymore.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean all the way, like you said, the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that didn't used to be the case.

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Speaker 3: That was a lot harder.

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Speaker 2: It was much more difficult to add these guys, and

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Speaker 2: Twenty one new players on the roster this year. Wow,

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Speaker 2: it weren't here last year. I mean, that's that's churning

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the running backs and quarterbacks are exactly the same,

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Speaker 3: But we've also seen Taylor.

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Speaker 2: That's the big thing. Like I always love when people

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't know.

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Speaker 2: You don't know how he was being used unless you

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Speaker 3: Right I I you know, he's just making up for

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Speaker 2: You're closer to it. It was my blown coverage though,

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Speaker 3: They didn't the right. So that's definitely part of it.

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Speaker 3: He's had two so far, right this years in his

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Speaker 2: Be this was going to be his third year in Houston.

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Speaker 3: So he's even three head He's seen three and.

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Speaker 2: Headed coaches there. Uh twenty twenty, he played for Tennessee

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Speaker 2: That's five head coaches now in the last three seeds.

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Speaker 3: to six flat. Who cares at this point. Yeah, he plays,

440
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Speaker 3: he's quick, he's tough, he's instinctual. No, I I think

441
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Speaker 3: that's a gift.

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Speaker 2: I do as well. Again, I'm not going to compare

443
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Speaker 2: this to Joe Hayden because Hayden is a multi time

444
00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,000
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl player. But again, we're talking about a guy

445
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Speaker 2: who is.

446
00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,959
Speaker 3: The corners don't become available very often, not with yea

447
00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,480
Speaker 3: not playing with ones in ten days. Yeah, so that's

448
00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,040
Speaker 3: a gift. I mean, I think that's a great, great pickup. Yeah,

449
00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:20,359
Speaker 3: not Rob Woindson, folks.

450
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you might get a Luke Barku or someone of

451
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Speaker 2: that nature, or you know, Mike Hilton was a guy

452
00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,640
Speaker 2: that bounced around a little bit. Those are the rarities.

453
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Speaker 3: And as coach says, this guy has performed at NFL stadiums. Yeah,

454
00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,320
Speaker 3: he knows what that's all about. He knows how to

455
00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,639
Speaker 3: handle the road trip, how to handle off days, all

456
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Speaker 3: that kind of stuff.

457
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Speaker 2: And he's played in three playoff games in his career.

458
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Speaker 2: That doesn't hurt either.

459
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Speaker 3: I love the Hawkeye background too. I mean, Farren's guys

460
00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,520
Speaker 3: are always tough and hardworking, and you know, you get

461
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Speaker 3: a lot out of them.

462
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, so good move by the Steelers. It was we're

463
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Speaker 2: going to take a break. He is Matt Williamson and

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Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolle. You're listening to the Drive here

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Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more right

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Speaker 2: after this.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the black and Gold.

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Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio, Dale Lolli.

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Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson and this is the drive on

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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio. The Steelers adding officially nine guys to

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Speaker 2: their practice squads. They have seven remaining spots.

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Speaker 3: I think that's all way up to sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Great.

476
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Speaker 2: Eight of those players who were resigned to the practice

477
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Speaker 2: squad were guys who have been released by the team.

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Speaker 3: Good with a lot of my would like to see back. Yeah,

479
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Speaker 3: I haven't seen this list yet.

480
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Speaker 2: So the one outside player, let's talk a little bit

481
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Speaker 2: about him, Anthony Brown from the Cowboys.

482
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Speaker 3: Really another defensive back that's been around the block a

483
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Speaker 3: little bit. Yeah, yeah, Okay, surprise he's still I kind

484
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Speaker 3: of don't understand the rules.

485
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Speaker 2: I think it's six guys. You're allowed six best of

486
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Speaker 2: veterans that you're allowed on there.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so I'll do a little more homework on him.

488
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 3: But I think he's played slot and safety over his career.

489
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 3: He logged a fair amount of snaps in his career.

490
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Speaker 3: I mean, I would rather have King, But it's the

491
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Speaker 3: same ballpark, you know what I mean. I mean, it's

492
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Speaker 3: a guy that's been around the block a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's uh in six seasons, or his first six seasons,

494
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Speaker 2: he's played an eighty two games, starting fifty seven.

495
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he played a lot.

496
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,879
Speaker 2: Nine career interceptions he's including one for a touchdown, four sacks.

497
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Speaker 2: I mean, he's he's been a guy that's that's played

498
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Speaker 2: a lot of snaps in the NFL.

499
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Speaker 3: Similar story to what we just had in the first segment.

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Speaker 3: I mean, again, I prefer King. I think he's the

501
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Speaker 3: better player of the two. But that's a nice pickup.

502
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Speaker 3: I mean you unfortunately, there's probably a good chance that

503
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Speaker 3: you call him up at some point.

504
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Speaker 2: At some point, yeah, I mean, if you think back

505
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:48,120
Speaker 2: to the game against Tampa Bay last year, the Steelers

506
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,360
Speaker 2: secondary was devastated by injuries.

507
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Speaker 3: They love that man. Yeah.

508
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 2: The only the only regular that they had in there

509
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Speaker 2: was Terrell Edmonds.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, I mean, I mean they were work.

511
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Speaker 2: It was ugly. I had no idea how they won

512
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Speaker 2: that game against Tom Brady. They did that, Hey, Chris

513
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,120
Speaker 2: Godwin and Mike Evans and you somehow found the way

514
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 2: to win that game with a secondary that was cobbled together.

515
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Speaker 3: And with all respect to Edmunds, he's not really a

516
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Speaker 3: cover guy. He's half linebacker almost I mean, yes, he's

517
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Speaker 3: a defensive back, and I'm sure his leadership and communication

518
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 3: was huge that day. But you can't mix coverages, and

519
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 3: not that you're going to confuse Brady, but if you're

520
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 3: just gonna give him the same coverage over over.

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Speaker 2: I imagine you had to play a little vanilla there.

522
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Speaker 3: I would assume I remember they did. Yeah, that Brown's

523
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Speaker 3: a good pick up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so the other guys brought back Luke Barku, the

525
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Speaker 2: afore mentioned I thought he observed that. Yeah, running back

526
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Speaker 2: Greg Bell, defensive lineman Braden Fojoko, good wide receiver Des Fitzpatrick,

527
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Speaker 2: defensive lineman Jonathan Marshall, linebacker David Paralis, safety Trent and Thompson,

528
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Speaker 2: and tight end Rodney Williams.

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Speaker 3: A lot of the names. We were kind of assuming,

530
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Speaker 3: hoping you never know what's going to happen. I think

531
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Speaker 3: we said yesterday, I said that it's several outlets. I

532
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 3: thought Fojoko was the best football player they cut, and

533
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,360
Speaker 3: you know, how many no's do you need? But if he's,

534
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Speaker 3: you know, a rosterable guy and you have him in

535
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Speaker 3: the building every day and his energy, I like that

536
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Speaker 3: Marshall's shown up a little bit Bark, who I thought

537
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Speaker 3: had came on stronger and stronger and stronger as camp

538
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 3: went on. Same with Thompson, and.

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Speaker 2: We talked about Thompson a lot, and the same thing

540
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Speaker 2: with Rodney Williams.

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Speaker 3: With you, I mean, Rodney Williams showed up every day,

542
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 3: yeah in camp, and both those guys, Thompson and Williams

543
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Speaker 3: played a lot of special team snaps in the preseason.

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Speaker 2: Too, So yeah, we also liked Parrels.

545
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he also was another one, got heavy special teams.

546
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Speaker 2: There are all guys that that did some stuff, did.

547
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Speaker 3: Some stuff, and I didn't know half of those guys'

548
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 3: names whenever I got to La Trobe for the first

549
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 3: time this year. But guys, we had to learn because

550
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 3: they made us. I mean, they just kept showing up

551
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 3: practice after practice. So not a bad crew. So it's

552
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Speaker 3: about halfway filled then, huh.

553
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they got seven more spots that they can still

554
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Speaker 2: fill and we'll see, you know where else they go

555
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Speaker 2: with that.

556
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Speaker 3: But so right now they have no quarterbacks. Do you

557
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 3: think they had a quarterba they want to quarterback? They

558
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 3: got three in the roster. That's plenty.

559
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 2: There's some teams out there, like the New England Patriots

560
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 2: have one quarterback on their roster.

561
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Speaker 3: It's Mac Jones, Matt Jones. Bizarre, I assume they're gonna

562
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Speaker 3: get Cole McCoy or somebody.

563
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 2: Well, they signed, they they signed both the guys they

564
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 2: cut to their practice squad. Oh did they back Zappy's

565
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 2: on the practice squad? Anybody had a chance to go

566
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Speaker 2: get Zappi and did not. And that's telling.

567
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Speaker 3: That is telling.

568
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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, So all off season long,

569
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Speaker 2: there were a lot of comparisons Kenny Pickett versus Mac

570
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Speaker 2: Jones heading in the year two.

571
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't see that. I don't think they're similar

572
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Speaker 3: at all. I don't either, And maybe I fell a

573
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 3: little victim to that when Kenny was coming out, But

574
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Speaker 3: when you watch him, he's not.

575
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Speaker 2: He's a far better athlete to Mac Jones.

576
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Speaker 3: I was not even close. I mean they're not even close.

577
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Speaker 3: I mean, like if Lamar is a ten and Mac

578
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 3: is a one and a half, max like Matt Ryan, Yeah,

579
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 3: Kenny's a six and a half. Like he's closer to

580
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Speaker 3: Lamar than Mac. I'm not saying he's close to either.

581
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Speaker 3: But the fact that they I don't know, everyone just

582
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 3: assumed that they well they're stealing his Kirk cousins and

583
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 3: their pocket passers. Not really, I mean that's what Jones is.

584
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 3: I mean, he's a statuesque processor, highly highly accurate pink

585
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 3: by numbers. That's what made him crazy last year. Is

586
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 3: give me the plays at work and I'll work them,

587
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 3: you know, but don't ask me.

588
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 2: You know, there were no numbers on the on the paint.

589
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 2: Ye make it up as he.

590
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 3: Went, and he's splashing paint where Kenny is much more,

591
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 3: almost the opposite. Like I think I said this the

592
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Speaker 3: other day. But Kenny was a little under three seconds

593
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 3: to throw, which is high. He was very high a

594
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Speaker 3: pit and he got away with it, of course, and

595
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 3: a lot of it's because he is a playmaker. I mean,

596
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 3: Fields and Lamar and those guys are always high in

597
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 3: time to throw. But Kenny, when it was two and

598
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 3: a half or under, which is how the plays designed,

599
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 3: was phenomenal. When it was over two and a half,

600
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 3: that's when bad stuff happened.

601
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Speaker 2: You know, and which is always in the case with

602
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 2: you know, you're going to force the ball in spots

603
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 2: or it shouldn't go, and things of that nature.

604
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 3: Create chaos a little bit. But so he has the

605
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 3: paint by number stuff. But he's a great athlete. He's

606
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 3: super twitchy. I think he's more of a risk taker

607
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 3: than Mac in a good way, you know. I mean so,

608
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 3: I don't think they're even comparable, to be honest with you.

609
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I don't. I don't see that comparison.

610
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Speaker 2: To me, Kenny is a runner is more like early

611
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 2: career Aaron Rodgers, where he's not the best runner in

612
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Speaker 2: the league, but when.

613
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Speaker 3: He takes get how athletic Rogers was.

614
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, when he takes off, you know, the defense has

615
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 2: to has to get get to him or he's going

616
00:26:58,480 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 2: to get fifteen yards pretty.

617
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Speaker 3: Quick, pretty quick. I would say he's even twitchier and

618
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 3: probably wins a race with rookie Rogers. I mean not,

619
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Speaker 3: I think it's similar, But Rogers was so smart about

620
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 3: you always had decent receivers, Nelson or whoever. If you're

621
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 3: gonna play man and you all turned it back to me,

622
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take off. Yeah, third and six, I'll get seven,

623
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 3: slide pop right up, first down symbol, you know, break

624
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 3: your heart, And I think Kenny'll do some of that

625
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 3: as the ages. But I think you can design runs

626
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 3: for him too. Yeah, you know, if you're an empty

627
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 3: it doesn't mean it's not a running play.

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Speaker 2: There were some waiver claims around the Arizona Cardinals. They're

629
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 2: such a weird claim that six guys on waivers did they?

630
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,239
Speaker 3: I got a new theory about that, man of rum.

631
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 2: So you claim six guys on waivers, they're gonna they're

632
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 2: on your They go to your roster, Go to your roster.

633
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 2: It's not like you can claim them and put them

634
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 2: on the practice squad. So they signed or they placed

635
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: waiver claims on tight end Elijah Higgins from Miami Center,

636
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: Tristan Cologne from the Jets Center, Keith Ismail from San Francisco.

637
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 2: We talked a little bit about. Yeah, offensive tackle Ill

638
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 2: Manning from San Francisco. So two forty nine ers offensive lineman, so.

639
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 3: Three offensive linemen in the total. Yeah wow. Uh.

640
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 2: Defensive back Starling Thomas and defensive back Kevon Wallace from Philadelphia.

641
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 3: Thomas one, I was a little sho got cut.

642
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 2: Thomas was one from Detroit, Okay.

643
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 3: So I don't know if Josh Dobbs is better or

644
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 3: worse than Colt McCoy. And I'm not even implying Colt

645
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 3: McCoy is a bad guy, because all reports are he's

646
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 3: assault of the earth, he's a good mentor blah blah blah.

647
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 3: I think that new regime walked into that building and

648
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 3: thought this place is toxic.

649
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 2: Like what did Chuck Noles say when he got there,

650
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 2: Like when we get to the Super Bowl, most of

651
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 2: you aren't going to be here.

652
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think they just want different people. You know,

653
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 3: if Dobbs and McCoy are exactly the same grade, I

654
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 3: just want who wasn't here before. I want new bodies

655
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 3: in here. I don't want any of this toxicity from

656
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Speaker 3: the previous regime thinking losing's okay or any of that.

657
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 3: I think it's just went in doubt. Just like I

658
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 3: used this example earlier today, like you're, you know, you

659
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 3: and your wife from moving and you pick up these

660
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 3: different things like should we pack this or dump it?

661
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 3: Dump it? You know, like I'm sick of that couch

662
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,479
Speaker 3: burn it. I mean, just something new, and I think

663
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 3: that's what they're doing. Yeah.

664
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 2: The Carolina Panthers put in three waiver claims. Calvin Throck

665
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 2: mount Morton in offensive tackle from New Orleans, linebacker Claudine

666
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 2: Shirtless from the Jets, and defensive back DeShawn Jamison from

667
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 2: San Francisco. The Bears had two defensive end, Colleague Kareem

668
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 2: from Indianapolis and defensive end Quindell Johnson from the Rams disaster.

669
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Speaker 2: If you're you're putting in a bunch of claims this

670
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,479
Speaker 2: time of year. Green Bay had two defensive lineman Jonathan

671
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: Ford and linebacker Tree Carpenter the tight The Texans had

672
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 2: two offensive lineman Nick Broker from Buffalo.

673
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 3: They hit Buffalo for both of these of lineman.

674
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 2: Defensive back Alex Austen from the Bills. The Colts claimed

675
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 2: offensive tackle Ryan Hayes from Miami and guard Josh Sills

676
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 2: from Philadelphia.

677
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 3: Offensive line. Yeah, it shows you what the state of the.

678
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 2: League linebacker Isaiah Land from Dallas.

679
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 3: But you can certainly see why teams would prefer Kendrick

680
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 3: Green or Dotson.

681
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 2: Right with this whole thing here, I'm just going through

682
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 2: here to see if there are any other roster claims here.

683
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 2: So those are the and then the Titans claimed the

684
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Speaker 2: defensive back Kendall Vildor from Chicago.

685
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Speaker 3: I remember him. He was recent draft pick.

686
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Speaker 2: But those teams that we mentioned there, Chicago, Arizona, Tennessee,

687
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 2: and these are the bad teams in the league.

688
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 3: That's I was going to say, the only one that

689
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 3: you mentioned there that I have some hope for this

690
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 3: year is Green Bay. But they're super young. If you're

691
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 3: claiming multiple guys right now, you've got some you know,

692
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 3: like to go want someone else's trash rather than more

693
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 3: than the ones who've been working with since Mini Camp

694
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 3: is pretty telling. Yeah, it makes me think, I mean

695
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 3: it's way too much of a generalization, but take the

696
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 3: under and the wind totals on all those teams, you know,

697
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 3: like they don't feel strong about themselves.

698
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're they're a little Seattle's on there as well.

699
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 2: They claimed Drake Thomas from Las Vegas and KYU blue

700
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 2: Kelly got waived by Baltimore.

701
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 3: Baltimore was what they're doing.

702
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 2: They kept Anthony or Arthur Malett over Cayu blue Kelly

703
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: because he was running in a slot for them.

704
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 3: I guess they feel confident that he can play now,

705
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 3: whether I mean, he doesn't have a high ceiling, but

706
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 3: they need him. You know, it's ten days from now.

707
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, so uh, just interesting. I noticed that as I

708
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 2: was going through those earlier today, I'm like, well, a

709
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 2: lot of these teams that are putting in I mean.

710
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 3: Arizona is crazy.

711
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: I don't know if I've ever seen six a team

712
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 2: makes six waiver claims.

713
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 3: No, I think it's volumes for where they think the

714
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 3: whole organization is. Yeah, like we just need new people here.

715
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 3: I mean, Buddha Baker, you can stay. Hey, if JJ

716
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 3: Watt or Hudson or Larry was still around, you could stay.

717
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,479
Speaker 3: But the rest of you just get out of here.

718
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 2: The other thing about that is Arizona they still have

719
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 2: the same GM.

720
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 3: Right, it's awesome for I always kill his name, but

721
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 3: he's recent, is he new? Yeah?

722
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 2: So they're washing out everything at the right I.

723
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 3: Mean because if you noticed, a lot of their hires

724
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,959
Speaker 3: have always been from within, it's time just for something

725
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 3: new paint, you know bad.

726
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's kind of what that organization.

727
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 3: And if you remember Houston, not this offseason, but there

728
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 3: was like two off seasons there, like when Deshaun Watson

729
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 3: was super unhappy. They would sign like twenty free agents

730
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 3: to minimum deals just to get new bodies in there

731
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 3: and hope some of them stick. But none of them

732
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 3: ever really stick, you know. I mean they're all bottom

733
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 3: of the roster type guys for league minimums. But that

734
00:32:59,080 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 3: was the process.

735
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 2: Is that different than what the Steelers did this year?

736
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 3: Very there's no. I think they're trying to put the

737
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 3: first block. Here's how I say it's different. Their house

738
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 3: was bad with a bad foundation, and they're knocking it down.

739
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 3: I haven't even started building it up yet. Where the

740
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 3: Steelers had a great foundation, really nice foundation. And by

741
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 3: that I mean the running game, a young quarterback, the

742
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 3: coaching staff, ownership.

743
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 2: History, some stars in place on it. Yeah.

744
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 3: Absolutely, so now let's go get let's put an addition on.

745
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 3: Let's put you know, you know the bones were there,

746
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 3: they're looking for bones.

747
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's interesting, you know because Mike Tomlins asked today

748
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 2: by Mike Persuda, you know, you seem to be pretty

749
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 2: confident about this team. What gives you that confidence? He said, Yeah,

750
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 2: I I do. I have extreme confidence in this team.

751
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 2: But I'm not going to share with you what that

752
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 2: why I have that confidence. We'll let our tape speak

753
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: for itself.

754
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 3: It says a lot without saying a lot. Yeah, as

755
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 3: he often does, it makes sense. I mean he should

756
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 3: be confident in this team. I mean he's very close

757
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 3: with him, he's very hands on. I think he has

758
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 3: good communication with its leaders, as well as knowing the

759
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 3: depths and weaknesses of it, as most head coaches do.

760
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 3: I mean, this isn't uncommon stuff, but he's better at

761
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 3: it than most, and he knows what the competition looks like.

762
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's one thing that you know when

763
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 2: you look at this, you know, I think the Steelers

764
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 2: feel very confident where they're at as a team right now,

765
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 2: right now, and I feel like they they're ready for

766
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 2: it to get this thing started.

767
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 3: And as much as any team, I think they know, hey,

768
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 3: there's many many obstacles ahead. You know, let's not get

769
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 3: full of ourselves because because we won three preseason games

770
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 3: and things are shaping into place. But they obviously have

771
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 3: a plan in place that up until the second is

772
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 3: being executed really well, you know. But part of that

773
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 3: plan is we see their speed bumps and hurdles ahead.

774
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 3: We don't when they're coming, but we're better prepared for

775
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 3: it now because we have King and Alexander and those

776
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 3: guys you mentioned.

777
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 2: You know, Let's dig into this roster a little bit

778
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 2: more when we come back. He is Matt Williamson. I

779
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 2: am Dale, Lolly. You're listening to the drive here on

780
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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation. Radio. We'll be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

782
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

783
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

784
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolly. He is Matt Williamson, and

785
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: this is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. And Matt

786
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 2: I'm going to ask you now to put on your

787
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 2: nostre damis ooh wig whatever you want to do there.

788
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,439
Speaker 3: All right, cap cap, I'm about this. Whatever, right, Okay,

789
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 3: let's do it.

790
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 2: Let's do that. So when we're sitting here in the

791
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 2: in it's January, the Steelers team MVP for twenty twenty

792
00:35:59,360 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 2: three will be.

793
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 3: He d j W. Who's the let me put your

794
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 3: team cap on. Who's the offensive m v P?

795
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 2: Kenneth Pickens. I Kenneth Pickett.

796
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 3: I should say that it's so brutal. Yeah, that was

797
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 3: the worst thing about that draft class, by the way,

798
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 3: that the first two picks basically almost the same man.

799
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 3: I was gonna say Pickens, I'm really warming up to

800
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 3: him becoming more of a star this year. Yeah. I

801
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 3: almost thought of him as team MVP, but I took.

802
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 2: The real for a receiver to win it. And for

803
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 2: the quarterback to not win it if the receiver wins it.

804
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 2: Because I also think Deontay Johnson is very good. Is

805
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 2: being vastly underrated, no question, across the league. When when

806
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 2: you're when you're talking about Deontay Johnson and this from

807
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 2: from a fantasy standpoint, and you're you know, people are

808
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 2: taking him as a number three receiver. He's like in

809
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: the thirty you know, I mean not even like the Yeah,

810
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 2: that's crazy twenty five, right. He has looked great, Yeah,

811
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: look great in camp, He's looked great in the games.

812
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 2: He's looked great, and since they've come back from camp, he's.

813
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 3: Good a free season as anyone. Yeah, it's easy to

814
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 3: look at Pickett obviously, or Picking's great catch. Deontay has

815
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 3: been as good as anyone.

816
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 2: He is mister steady Eddie. He makes the great plays

817
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 2: look routine. I think he is primed if he gets

818
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 2: his you know, one hundred and forty plus targets again

819
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 2: this year, which I see.

820
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 3: No reason why he shouldn't assume he does.

821
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 2: I just feel like he and Kenny Pickett will be

822
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 2: on this more on the same page, and I see

823
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 2: him easily easily topping I think is over under for

824
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 2: catches this year is like eighty two.

825
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, the projections are low.

826
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: It's low. It's less than a thousand. I see him

827
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 2: over over ninety catches, even maybe even over one hundred catches.

828
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 3: Again, people think he's like this stinking dunk guy like

829
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 3: three yards to catch it. No too, I mean he's

830
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,479
Speaker 3: going to be an intermediate dude.

831
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 2: I think he catches. I think he goes over eleven

832
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 2: hundred yards. I think he's you know, at least five touchdowns.

833
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 3: I do too. I think those are all logical goals

834
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 3: for him that he has a really good chance to reach.

835
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 3: MVP is not the best discussion because one of them

836
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 3: was defensive MVP two years ago and as a quarterback,

837
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 3: and we're both high with both of them. TJ I

838
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 3: think is going to blow up.

839
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 2: I think here's what I think she's gonna happen with TJ.

840
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 2: Watt And we talked a little bit about this when

841
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 2: we when we did the top one hundred stuff. Every

842
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 2: time we've done it, because he's been twenty or twenty

843
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 2: five or eight, like out of sight, out of mine

844
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 2: with him and everybody's and I don't know that this

845
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: for a fact that that. You know, people talked about

846
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett's best edge rusher, This guy's the best edge rusher,

847
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 2: and Wat's now fifth on that list.

848
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 3: Like he always threw like four or five, not one

849
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 3: or two.

850
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, have we forgotten how good he is.

851
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 3: Just because I mean the other guys have done nothing wrong,

852
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 3: of course, you know, but it was it was pretty

853
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 3: clear cut that he deserved the award. Yeah, I mean,

854
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 3: Frankly could have one two years in a row, right,

855
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 3: I mean he was really what a voter or two

856
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 3: away from.

857
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, he led the league in sacks two consecutive years.

858
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 3: Which rarely happens.

859
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 2: Though. Yeah, I just think he's you know, he's healthy.

860
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 3: I don't see any ill effects from the injury.

861
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 2: No. I don't think there was ever a time last

862
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 2: year that he was one hundred percent healthy. No. You know,

863
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 2: he had that knee injury in the preseason. If you

864
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 2: remember the TJ. Hawkinson hit him in the knee in

865
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 2: the in the preseason game.

866
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 3: I thought you were taking posts and I think that.

867
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 2: Was bothering him going into the season because he then

868
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 2: had surgery on it while he was out with the

869
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 2: with the arm injury. The pictorial muscle, I should say.

870
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 3: Easy to think that's forget that stuff. Now, you're right.

871
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 2: Then when he came back, he had a rib issue

872
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 2: that slowed him down a little bit. I just don't

873
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 2: think he was ever one hundred percent healthy last year.

874
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 3: Now he is now, he absolutely is and looks spectacular.

875
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 2: He's in his prime.

876
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I just monster right, No, I do too,

877
00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 3: I do too. Who's is there any dark horse like

878
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 3: MVPs if it's not one of the three guys on defense,

879
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 3: like I can't I.

880
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 2: Could paint a picture where Najie Harris is the m.

881
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 3: I wasna say, hot Harris I think has a chance

882
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 3: if he runs for twelve hundred yards.

883
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 2: And adds another three or four hundred receiving and scores

884
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: twelve touchdowns.

885
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 3: Hypothetical Kenny misses two games and they just ride him

886
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 3: the whole time and win the two you know, thirteen

887
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 3: twelve team respect that stuff, you know, and vote for

888
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 3: him and.

889
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 2: He gets three hundred touches and you know he's a workhorse.

890
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 3: A Franco like manner, you know, like if you're the

891
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 3: whole offense here for a while and the whole world

892
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 3: knows it, and we're still able to compete and win games.

893
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 3: That goes a long way too.

894
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, who's the team's rookie of the Year going to be?

895
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 2: I would who wins the Joe Green Great Performance Award.

896
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 3: So there aren't Vegas odds for these things. But if

897
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 3: Matt and Dale put Vegas odds out, do you think

898
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 3: Porter would be the least payoff because Jones isn't gonna

899
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 3: start one the highest drafted.

900
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 2: He wouldn't be My VOTEO, mine's mine's going to be

901
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: venting as well.

902
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think his snaps will just keep going up.

903
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 3: And I don't want to say that they haven't yet

904
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 3: unleashed him on the world, but I have a hunch

905
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 3: there looking at him like we got like another first

906
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 3: round pick here.

907
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 2: That's the way I kind of view him, because I'll

908
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 2: tell you what.

909
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 3: I think he might.

910
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 2: I've seen nothing from him that this suggests that, oh

911
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 2: he's going to need time.

912
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 3: No me either. I mean, you brought up yesterday the

913
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 3: two lines he beat up on and beat up on

914
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 3: were bad. I mean I would prefer to see him

915
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 3: and do that against Buffalo, whose line's not great, but

916
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 3: still the way he moves, his physicality, his toughness and

917
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 3: power in his hands, all that stuff, like he's.

918
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 2: A nose that's not You're not gonna be able to

919
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 2: double him. No, no, And if you can't double him

920
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 2: as a nose tackle, he's gonna be again. He's gonna

921
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 2: be like the bouncer in the bar, just tossing people left.

922
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 3: And right like you did all pre season. So I

923
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 3: don't I could see his rookie year running away with

924
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:09,280
Speaker 3: that honor, the Joe Green Award and with no nothing

925
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 3: that Ogunjobi did wrong. Not only is bent in your

926
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 3: starting nose in your five man front, your three man

927
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 3: d line, but starts to push Ogan, Joby and Nickel

928
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 3: Like I think he might be too good to keep

929
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 3: off the field.

930
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm that high on the kid

931
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 2: as well.

932
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna Herbig's just not gonna get the chances.

933
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 2: He's not gonna get the unless unless somebody gets hurt

934
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 2: in front of him.

935
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 3: And I mean I guess if like Mason, if Mason

936
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 3: Cole got hurt, would Anderson be the center or do

937
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 3: you think they put her big?

938
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 2: They probably probably play her, moves him around Darnell. If

939
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: Darnel Washington catches six or seven touchdown passes this year,

940
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 2: which is possible.

941
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 3: With Gentry out of the equation too. He's gonna play

942
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 3: a lot, yeah, I mean, think about how much twelve

943
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 3: they played post crape Claypool trade, which they won't play

944
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 3: as much. But that's gonna be him. He's gonna be

945
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 3: the inline guy where you thought maybe he.

946
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 2: He was throwing guys out of the buck like they

947
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 2: got a bunch of butt kickers in.

948
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 3: The whole off season was predicated on size and physicality,

949
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 3: but especially the draft. None of them are small for

950
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 3: their position a little bit.

951
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's not even really a finesse player. No, No,

952
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 2: they just they brought in nobody who was Oh boy,

953
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's tough enough at the point

954
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 2: of attack or anything like that.

955
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 3: I mean absolutely not. There's a trend here and they

956
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 3: all look good coming off the bus. I mean when

957
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 3: we met Porta the first time, it's easy when you

958
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 3: see my paper or you see.

959
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 2: I mean other cornerbacks on the team that I talked

960
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 2: to about that were like, these guys are freaks.

961
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 3: I think Peterson said that, Who's a freak?

962
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 2: He said it, and Levi Wallace told me the same thing.

963
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 2: He's like, I thought I was a big cornerback until

964
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 2: I saw these guys.

965
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, that's funny. So I had something there. I

966
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 3: was gonna say, I don't know something about the rookies,

967
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 3: but I.

968
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 2: Just think it's a great rookie class that's going Tom

969
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 2: Want addressed this today as well. He said, look, none

970
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 2: of these guys made the team on scholarship. That's all

971
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 2: deserved to be here. They're all going to play a role,

972
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 2: and the role is only going to increase the more

973
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 2: experience that they get.

974
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 3: And he would never admit this, but it's true for

975
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 3: every team. That's not the case every year with draft picks.

976
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 3: I mean there's guys. Yeah, I mean even when you

977
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 3: draft them, you say, he probably won't look good in camp.

978
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 3: He's got a lot to learn, but he's gonna make

979
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 3: the team because we want to groom him.

980
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 2: I mean they might have thought that about her big

981
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 2: in the spring, maybe, and then he goes out. He

982
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 2: looked quick in the spring, but nobody has pads on.

983
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: He should look good there yea to push right exactly.

984
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 2: Then you go to training camp to put the pads on.

985
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 2: It's like nobody they can't still can't block it.

986
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 3: He's beaten your starting tackles pretty regularly, and then the

987
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 3: games was even better. Yeah. So I mean again, you

988
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 3: can only do. You only eat what they put in

989
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 3: front of you. And now it's going to be real stadiums,

990
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 3: full people, regular season starting tackles, not that he didn't

991
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 3: whip starting tackles and camp.

992
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 2: Who is the when we're talking in January or whenever

993
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 2: the season's over, who is the unst or who is

994
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 2: the unsung signing that they made or who was the

995
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 2: best signing that they made?

996
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 3: So the mall is an easy choice. I mean, he

997
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 3: was the biggest ticket item. He's gonna play a lot.

998
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 3: I think Peterson's leadership, though, is going to go a

999
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 3: really long way with all these different defensive backs that

1000
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 3: I don't want to say he's gonna be like a

1001
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 3: Menca cam type leader, but he hasn't been here as long,

1002
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 3: but he could be in that realm in terms of

1003
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 3: what he does off the field.

1004
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 2: I mean, he has that kind of gravitas in the

1005
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 2: locker room already.

1006
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 3: Hmmm. I'm definitely gonna go with Isaac, but maybe when

1007
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 3: the linebackers could be Kwan Alexander, I mean those guys

1008
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 3: are gonna see a lot of action.

1009
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they've they've try again. Trendis roster over him.

1010
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 2: We didn't even mention Alan Robinson. Yeah, I thought about

1011
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 2: what he could bring to the equation with his team

1012
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 2: work with you that I think saml Loose.

1013
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 3: I mean, if he stays healthy, he's going to be

1014
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 3: a top ten guard apparent left guard.

1015
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 2: Well, you brought it up. Who on this roster in

1016
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 2: December when it's announced? I think it's December. Who's the

1017
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl guy in waiting here?

1018
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 3: One that hasn't gone, one that hasn't gone, that will

1019
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 3: It's a brutal position, but high Smith's at least making

1020
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 3: a case before the season. You know, year after year

1021
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 3: he makes a little bit better case, a little bit

1022
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 3: better case. Probably too early to say, Benton. The tackles

1023
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 3: are also a position beat Quinn Williams and Simmons and

1024
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 3: Chris Jones, right right, Maybe Silamalu.

1025
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 2: Could be Slamalo. That's a good one, it could be.

1026
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 2: That's a tough position to get to crack in the

1027
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 2: AFC as well.

1028
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 3: I don't know that the two receivers are outlandish.

1029
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 2: Well, Deonta's already gone Yeah, Pickens is capable. Pickens is

1030
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 2: certainly capable, and one of.

1031
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 3: Them over I mean, like I'm a predict. He's a

1032
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 3: beat out Stephan Diggs and Tyreek, but he could get

1033
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 3: to that level player.

1034
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you mentioned the inside linebackers. None of them

1035
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 2: have ever gone you don't.

1036
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 3: They have that ceiling. But that's not a hard position

1037
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 3: to go.

1038
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 2: No, it's I mean, go out and make a bunch

1039
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 2: of tackles, that's all anybody like, that's one of the

1040
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 2: that's one of the Like, Okay, so if you you

1041
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 2: go out the defense, let's say the defense's lights out,

1042
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 2: which very.

1043
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 3: Well could be top five type of defense. Yeah.

1044
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 2: Right, and whoever, let's say I'm just gonna let's say

1045
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 2: Cole Hulcomb has one hundred and forty tackles, which he

1046
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 2: has done before.

1047
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 3: By the way, and picks off splash.

1048
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, he gets a couple of interceptions, maybe a sack

1049
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 2: or two.

1050
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 3: Sports Center.

1051
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, now, all of a sudden, you're in

1052
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 2: that conversation. Even though tackles are not a sure, they're

1053
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,280
Speaker 2: not a statistic that should.

1054
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 3: Matter, but Pro Bowl voters will care about. Yeah, so

1055
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 3: here's a real cheat. Huntly went pick it could go.

1056
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I know the AFC load I'm talking about.

1057
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 2: I'm talking about straight vote, winning the vote, not not going.

1058
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 2: It's a fifth guy down the line. I mean, could Picket,

1059
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 2: could Picket.

1060
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 3: Crack that in the NFC. I might even vote for

1061
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 3: him now to beat out Herbert Mahomes out Lawrence. But

1062
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 3: you know I'm gonna say no. But I think he

1063
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 3: could be have a Pro Bowl season. You know, like

1064
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 3: if he was in the NFC and we were predicting

1065
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 3: who the Pro Bowl team is going to be, I'd

1066
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 3: probably say, like hurt Stack and Picket.

1067
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think if you if you looked

1068
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: at that offensive lineman is tough because everybody, everybody votes

1069
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 2: on the guys who've been there. You make it the

1070
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 2: year after you probably.

1071
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 3: Should have made it. That's a tough one.

1072
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 2: It's difficult, it really is.

1073
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 3: Yeah. Probably the answer is none of the above, which

1074
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 3: doesn't mean they're not all getting better. But again, like you.

1075
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 2: Could have made a strong case for high Smith last year.

1076
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 3: His name, I was about to bring it for fourteen

1077
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 3: and half sacks, but he got to put Max Crosby

1078
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 3: in and he led.

1079
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 2: He led the league in forced fumbles.

1080
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 3: Like you know, if he has another twelve plus sack year,

1081
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 3: he'll get votes. Yeah, he'll get votes. But I mean again,

1082
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 3: he's not going to beat on his teammate.

1083
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 2: Right, that's the that's the tough party. That's the tough part.

1084
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's it's the competition.

1085
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 2: This is so brutal, it really is. And it doesn't

1086
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 2: mean that the guys there aren't guys who are deserving.

1087
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 2: I had that conversation on that level. Yeah. I had

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00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 2: the conversation with with James Daniel's father.

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Speaker 3: I was almost mentioned him too when I yeah, we.

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Speaker 2: Spoke in the offseason. I did a story on on

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Speaker 2: on James and uh, I said, look at you know,

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Speaker 2: I said he could be if they go out and

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Speaker 2: average one hundred and forty six point four yards rushing

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Speaker 2: per game again this season.

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Speaker 3: That would be a nice feather. Yeah, it's a strong case.

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Speaker 2: Guys are going to get noticed off his guards there. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: the guy's but that's the only way it happens. Like

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Speaker 2: nobody looked at what happened last year with this team

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Speaker 2: and said, oh, you know that offensive line. You still

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Speaker 2: heard people talking in the offseason about the Steelers shaky

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Speaker 2: offensive line.

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Speaker 3: Here those words all the time, and it just wasn't true. Line, right,

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Speaker 3: it just wasn't true. It wasn't true. So here's one.

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Speaker 3: After the twenty twenty four season, Broderick Jones might go

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Speaker 3: to a bunch Yeah yeah, I mean right, we can

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Speaker 3: if we have the same conversation a year from now,

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Speaker 3: might be like, oh, Broderick Jones ready.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like I'll bet now. And he hasn't played it

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Speaker 2: down for them yet. Orlando Brown Junior gets a bunch

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Speaker 2: of Pro Bowl votes in the AFC at left tackle,

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Speaker 2: probably because he's deserving or not. He's as average as

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Speaker 2: the day is long.

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Speaker 3: But if you told me Broderick Jones's career would be

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Speaker 3: as good as Orlando Brown's, I would go fish.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would too. I want better than that.

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Speaker 3: And he's good. I mean he's making a ton of

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Speaker 3: money and several places have paid him. He's a good player.

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Speaker 3: He's averaged go and average too. Good left tackles are

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Speaker 3: worth a mid first round pick all day long, all

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Speaker 3: day long, all day long. Absolutely, But I'll take I'll

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Speaker 3: roll the dice on going above that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, we're gonna take another break. He is

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Ellet. You're listening to the

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Speaker 2: Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with

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Speaker 2: more right after this