WEBVTT - To Work Out Or Not to Work Out On Vacation 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:04.400 I won't let my body out, me out wait everything 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:07.920 that I'm made dope, won't spend my life trying to change. 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:12.440 I'm learning to love who I am. I get I'm strong, 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:15.840 I feel free, I know who every part of me 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:24.000 it's beautiful and then will always out way if you 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:27.040 feel it with your ass in the air, She'll love 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:29.840 to the mood I get there. Let's say good day 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:36.200 and did you and die out? Hey outweigh fam Amy 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:40.280 and Lisa here, and we're gonna be talking working out 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:43.640 on vacation today or I guess I should say not 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:47.040 working out on vacation or whatever it's gonna fit you 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:49.720 best on vacation, because I think Lisa and I both 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:52.919 used to come from the school of even if you're 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:55.680 on vacation, still wake up and get that workout in 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:58.640 every single day, like it's a grind, like it's still 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:01.440 part of your quote unquote job, even while you're supposed 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:04.240 to be resting. And I told Lisa I wanted to 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:06.800 talk about this and have her share her thoughts because 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:11.240 I was just in California last week and I really 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:14.160 took some time off, like I didn't work. And when 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:16.720 I say time off, I meant from my whole routine 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:19.440 of sorts, there's some things that I liked to keep, 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:22.960 like I went on walks with my friend and being outside, 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:25.880 and I did some walking on the beach barefoot. Lisa, 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:27.759 I thought of you when I did that, because I 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:31.520 was practicing some ground being work. But I really tried 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:34.399 to soak up other parts of the trip that were 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:39.560 more fulfilling to me and my well being than forcing 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:42.880 some sort of a workout. And I came home from 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:45.960 the trip thinking like, Wow, I didn't do one of 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:48.880 my little workouts on my computer that I had been 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.120 in the groove of doing before I went, just because 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:52.840 it was what was working for me. It's what was 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:54.720 making me feel good. If I didn't want to do 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:57.280 it one day, fine, I didn't do it. I loved 0:01:57.320 --> 0:02:00.440 coming home and being like, oh wow, I didn't do 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:03.440 it at all and it didn't mess with me, because 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:05.840 that's the thing. And Lesa, maybe you can break this 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:07.520 down a little bit more, but so much of it 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:12.400 is mental, like we think that we're suddenly so different 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:16.400 because we didn't work out every single day of our vacation, 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:19.040 or maybe we ate out the entire time. I mean, 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:22.280 which I did every meal was out. There wasn't my 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:24.960 typical workout, So I don't know if you want to 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:27.480 share your experience with that and how that's different. I 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:29.040 just want to give hope to people that it is 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:32.440 possible because I never thought like and go on vacation 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:35.280 really and you know, here, I am getting back from 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:38.040 a trip where things just felt different for me after 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:40.840 this year and a half of being in recovery. So 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:42.760 I think the most important thing is that you were 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:45.440 able to honor where you were at every single day 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:47.839 and really show up and assess what do I need 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:51.919 today and really do so and let go of any 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:55.000 guilt or different feelings of you know, remorse that you 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:57.360 used to have. You could still go out to meals 0:02:57.400 --> 0:02:59.640 even though you weren't moving your body in the same way. 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:03.359 I think the goal here, which I think in the 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:06.520 you know, in the anti diet space, we sometimes get 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:09.240 a little cloudy on what we're trying to do. But 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:11.800 in my point of view, if you can move your body, 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:16.080 if you're able bodied, movement is incredible for us for 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:19.720 a multitude of reasons, where the list could go on 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:22.399 and on. How it makes our bodies look is what 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:26.799 we focus on, right the caloric burn that we're always 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:30.320 kind of thinking of negating our food. But movement is 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:33.560 critical to our life, to our joints, and to our 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:37.560 longevity so that we can live out meaningful lives in 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:42.440 every which way that gets lost in translation. That being said, 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:44.360 I think I'm just going to throw this in here 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:46.520 and right now. It might be helpful as well to 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:50.440 start to think about it as movement versus the word exercise. 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:54.000 I think the word exercise in general might be tainted 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:56.760 for a lot of us. Maybe even the word workout 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:58.840 might be tainted. Maybe that means you have to go 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:02.920 to a certain class us or a certain intensity. So 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:05.960 whatever it is for you, I'm just going to suggest 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:09.760 calling it movement because we are as humans, we are 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:12.160 born to move. As if we look at other animals, 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:15.880 they're born to move. So really taking a look at 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:18.000 the goal here going back to it, which is to 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:22.599 have a sustainable relationship to movement, we need to start 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:26.840 thinking about how do we achieve that. And it was 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:29.800 funny to hear your story Amy about how working out 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:33.640 on vacation was a really big stressor for you, because 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:37.200 for me, where my mind went was the working out 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:40.280 leading up to vacation that I used to prep for 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:44.880 to either be in a bathing suit or maybe not 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:47.119 even it could have even been like a ski trip, 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:49.560 you know, or like, you know, a winter trip. But 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:51.760 for whatever reason, I knew that my life was going 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:55.440 to be different for seven days, five days, maybe even 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:58.080 just a weekend, and so there was always that prep. 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:00.640 And I know you have a spoke can so much 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:03.360 about looking at your calendar for events and then like 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:07.760 planning your food or your exercise. Previously, in terms of 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:10.760 restriction or overdoing it, I was the same. I feel 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:14.200 like with vacations. You know, I have this big trip 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:16.279 coming up, so I need to go extra hard before 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:18.320 I get here because when I get there, you know 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:21.039 everything is going to be different. So I think that 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:25.120 this conversation is kind of more macro, like maybe your 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:28.120 thing is is that you get really nervous before you 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:30.320 get on a vacation and you put all your stress there, 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:32.679 or maybe it's similar to amy, where when you arrive 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:35.400 on vacation you have to get that work out in 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:38.440 before you do anything else or you're unable to have ease. 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:41.320 And so neither of what you and I were doing 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:47.640 surrounding vacation was sustainable in having a healthy relationship to 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:53.159 movement over time. And the biggest shift that I experienced 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:57.640 over a lot of time was learning that the body 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:02.640 loves to move. It naturally want to do things that 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:05.120 feel good for it, which is sometimes movement. Now, it 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:07.840 might not be a movement that you traditionally think of 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:11.440 as being exercise or counting as your workout, so it 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:13.839 might not be a ten mile run, it might not 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:17.120 be lifting those weights and you know, just crushing it 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:21.480 so incredibly, but the body does like to move. And 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:23.680 for me, what I found when I let go of 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:26.440 the lead up for vacation as well as the pressure 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:31.800 on vacation, is that I could find joy in movement 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:35.520 on vacation, but I could also find rest on those 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:38.039 days when when that was all that was there. And 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:40.960 I've been on seven day vacations with zero movement, and 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:43.400 I've been on seven day vacations with some sort of 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:47.240 movement every single day that came from a place of 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:51.719 wanting to something that added to the experience or the 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:56.600 bonding with another person. So I think that this conversation 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:59.400 of don't work out on vacation or workout on vacation 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:04.279 is really easy to go narrow minded. But the goal 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:10.840 is how do we achieve that sustainable, healthy, positive relationship 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.720 to movement. And it starts with exactly what you did Amy, 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:17.600 which is honoring where you're at every day. And maybe 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:20.840 this is kind of boring advice, but boring advice happens 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:24.120 to be the best advice is that doesn't start on vacation, 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:27.560 that starts at home in your everyday routine. Yeah, I mean, 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:29.960 I think that it was the practices that I had 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:33.320 been implementing this last year that allowed me to go 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:36.280 into that. Also to what I want to bring up 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:39.320 what happens on vacation is sometimes because eating is out 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:43.520 of your control, you look at the exercise as being 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:47.320 some sort of punishment for what you're eating, or you 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:50.480 need to earn the food, so the food is the reward. 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:53.040 I mean, but that can be in everyday life, like 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:55.400 you're You're right, it's not just on vacation. It's the 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:58.040 practices that we have. Like I follow a girl on 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:00.920 Instagram the other day that I really like and I 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:04.640 don't think she means any harm, Like it was a complete, 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:06.480 just off the cuff statement, but she does have like 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:10.400 a ton of followers and it was just so nonchalant 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:12.880 of like her face was right red. You could tell 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:14.720 she had just worked out, and then she was holding 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:17.360 Chick fil A and in the camera she's like, Okay, 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:20.240 finished my workout and now I got my reward. And 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:22.840 it just kind of rolled off the tongue. And again, 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:25.960 this isn't her space, and she's not ever trying to 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:29.520 push any type of, you know, diet things by any means. 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:33.680 It's just like, that is such an acceptable statement because 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:36.840 of how we've grown up and just things other people say, 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:39.880 stuff I'm guilty for sure of saying in the past. 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:42.200 But I love that I was able to see it 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:44.240 right away and be like, oh, shoot, I wish she 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:46.840 wouldn't have said that, you know. And again she didn't 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:49.960 mean any harm and it's nothing that I hold against 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:51.679 her by any means, but I was like, oh, I 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:54.360 want her to feel like she can move and work 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:56.520 out if she wants to move, or she can eat 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:58.520 the food if she wants to eat the food, Like 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:02.000 we don't have to ever aciate that as as a reward. 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:04.920 I think it goes both ways. Oftentimes we're thinking about 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:09.120 food as the reward or exercise as maybe let's not 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:11.360 say punishment, but I mean for some people might be 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:14.760 punishment but too correct for what you ate. So her 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:18.199 order of operations was I worked out now I can 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:20.600 eat for a lot of people, especially going back to 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:23.880 the vacation, whether this is happening on vacation or when 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:27.440 they return from vacation. I think the thought processes I 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:30.400 did all this damage, now I need to correct for it. 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:33.200 So that can go either way. And I think we 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:36.400 see that all the time, and it's normalized all of 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:39.960 the time. And the one piece of advice that changed 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:43.679 everything for me really has nothing to do with exercise, 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:49.240 but has to do with food and my relationship to food, 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:53.520 what I eat, how I eat when I'm not on vacation. 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:57.760 So I think this idea of vacation mode, that's a 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:01.040 phrase that is often thrown around owned Um, you know, 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:02.920 I'm on vacation. I can do this. You know. It's 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:05.240 like one of those those things where I'm allowed to 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:09.000 splurge because I'm on vacation. Right. The need to splurge, 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:13.840 the need to let go, is a clue that whatever 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:17.959 is happening at home is too tight, is too rigid, 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:23.160 is possibly too restrictive. That you think that that you 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:26.800 feel it's a real feeling that a splurge is on 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:29.880 the other side and that's your release. So even if 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:33.160 you're really successful for six months out or a year 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:36.559 of eating a certain way, but on these vacations, you 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:40.360 allow yourself to splurge, eat a different way and find yourself, 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:44.760 you know, in that mindset of vacation mode. It's really 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:47.720 a big clue to me that what at home, even 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:50.320 though it's sustainable on paper, meaning you've been doing it 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:52.840 for a long time and you've maybe even gotten results 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:55.720 that you're looking for and everybody's applauding you for this, 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:58.920 and that there's really a big disconnect because there shouldn't 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:02.480 be such a big focus in your mind on food 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:07.640 and exercise on vacation if at home you're finding a 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:10.560 really nice flow with it and it's coming from a 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:15.760 true place of nourishment and care that includes some of 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:20.520 the foods that you typically only allow on vacation. And 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:23.160 I think that's kind of what we see a lot 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:26.520 of the time, is a lot of people living restrictive 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:31.080 lives at home, not recognizing how restrictive it is, getting 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:34.240 to vacation and saying iff it, I'm taking a break 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:37.120 from that and entering what I call a state of 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:40.160 mind body disconnection where they're no longer paying attention to 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:43.520 their cues because similar to a cheat meal, which we'll 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:46.200 talk about in another episode, I'm sure you have this 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:50.360 limited window to let go and once you're in that 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:54.559 mindset of I only have this much time to deviate 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:58.000 from my accepted plan without guilt. And I put that 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:00.720 in quotes because oftentimes the guilt is actually still there. 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:03.280 But we tell ourselves, you know, this is my window. 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:07.840 We are disconnected from our bodies, and therefore we are overeating, 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:11.440 eating things that we don't necessarily even want, but and 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:14.760 and doing so in volumes because of that tight window. 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:17.240 And the main issue with that is we're not actually 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:21.480 enjoying it, and we're perpetuating the cycle rather than taking 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:24.640 a look at what's going on at home that I 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:29.320 feel the need to essentially act out. Yeah, obviously this 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:32.760 kind of thing isn't done overnight by any means, but 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:35.959 it is some stuff too. For some people listening right now, 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:37.480 they may need to sit with for a little bit 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:39.920 and really try to to soak it up and yeah, 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:42.600 look at what's going on at home before and maybe 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:45.240 it's not even a vacation. Maybe it's just the weekend. 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:49.160 It could be your week versus your week end. Something 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:51.040 else that comes to mind when I think of vacation 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:54.520 is I used to I would weigh myself before and 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:56.640 then I would weigh myself when I got home to 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:58.720 figure out what I needed to do to get back. 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:01.160 And I found uch relief and the fact that I 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:05.360 don't have a scale anymore, or maybe we do somewhere, 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:07.719 but it's I honestly don't even know where it is. 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:11.080 But I thought, oh wow, okay, this is awesome. It 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:14.600 didn't matter before I went, and it didn't matter when 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:17.960 I got home. But something that happens to for people 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:21.680 is even when they're on vacation, whether it's at the hotel, 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:26.000 gym or sometimes hotels include in the bathroom a scale 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:30.839 oft times. Why why do they do that? I mean, 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:34.800 I guess because we are a society that is obsessed 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:38.240 with the scale, or can be. But that was just 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:41.160 a small step that I noticed for me that was 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:43.120 very you know, I don't want to pat myself on 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:46.400 the back, but I was proud of myself that that 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:51.160 wasn't a part of my vacation routine anymore, and it 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:54.640 just feels I guess, just to stay with the scale 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:58.360 theme here, it felt so light and it felt less 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:01.760 heavy to just have that out of my life. I 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:03.880 think you bring up a really great point. I think 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:07.080 most hotels have a scale there, or if there's like 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:09.360 a little spa or a gym, like, it's there, and 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:10.920 it's very easy to be like, okay, well let me 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:14.360 check in on myself and jump on. And this is 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:17.520 a little bit more of like a cognitive conversation versus 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:21.760 a different type of conversation. But it's really important to 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:28.280 not hyper focus on short term weight fluctuations. So I 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:31.000 remember as well part of my skill when I was 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:33.560 addicted to the scale, you know, getting on and seeing 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:36.960 decimal point changes or two pound changes or three to 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:40.520 four changes within the same day, within the same two days, 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:47.160 and really using those changes as flags to restrict or 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:51.240 exercise more and correct for it. What I really learned 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:54.520 over time is that weight fluctuations within a certain range 0:14:54.920 --> 0:15:00.560 are actually quite normal, especially when it comes to vacationing. 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:03.400 So it's very normal on vacation that you're going to 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:06.480 be traveling, what's happening in your body, how it retains, 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:09.680 what are the foods that you're eating. Constipation is a 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:13.680 really common one in traveling because of the tension that 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:16.400 you carry from You might not realize that your tense, 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:18.840 even if you're not a stressed flyer or like you 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:24.120 are relaxed, but the body is adjusting to a new environment. 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:26.760 And so I think sometimes we hold really tightly to 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:31.520 these fluctuations that are actually quite normal i'd call normal. 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:35.120 You know, anything really five to seven pounds within a day. 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:38.080 I know that sounds really extreme for some people. But 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:40.760 to make any changes that I need to lose weight 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:42.880 or or to call it weight game, to call it 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:45.280 true weight game, is only going to set you up 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:47.960 into a cycle to not be taking good care of 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:51.600 yourself and making matters worse. And that's why stepping away 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:54.479 from the scale can be a great first step, especially 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:56.480 if you were in a place like Amy was and 0:15:56.560 --> 0:16:00.760 where I was, where those fluctuations just completely trip you up. 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:03.720 And I say that because I'm at a place now 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:05.280 where I don't I don't even know if I have 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:07.520 a scale in my house. Maybe I do, But when 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:09.160 I go to the doctor and I step on the scale, 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:11.760 I feel fine with that. At this point in my journey. 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:14.240 That being said, there was a point when it when 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:17.080 it wasn't so honor where you're at doesn't mean the 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:19.480 scale is the worst thing or the best thing. It's 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:22.440 just one part of who you are. But when we 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:26.720 hyper focus on it, we really lose sight of things. Amy, 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:29.400 you told the story about somebody that you follow. I 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:33.080 follow somebody who she's not in the intuitive eating teaching space, 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:37.840 but she is an influencer that is largely responsible, I think, 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:41.280 and she speaks about intuitive eating, has experts on her 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:45.080 platforms to talk about it um and the anti diet space. 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:48.400 And she recently went on a beautiful trip abroad and 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:51.680 it was luxurious, and she was showing, you know, all 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:54.800 the foods that she was eating, and it looked really beautiful. 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:58.400 And when she came back, she recorded a podcast and 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:01.280 answered a listener's question of how do you deal with 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:05.280 weight game after a vacation, And I was surprised to 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:08.200 hear her response. So it was kind of two part. 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:11.399 The first part was that she really was able to 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:14.000 enjoy herself on this trip, and I think that's wonderful. 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:16.959 She really wanted to be immersed in the food and 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:20.880 the experiences and the culture and all of that. So 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:24.639 lawyer at home, she's normally free of ABC D and E. 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:27.679 You know, she doesn't eat that dada on vacation, she 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:32.160 allowed herself to without guilt. Okay, fine, right, And then 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:34.760 the second part of how she deals with it, it 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:37.360 wasn't awful, but it it just flagged me as, oh, 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:39.800 this is so interesting. Maybe she's not as kind of 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:42.240 free as I kind of thought she was. But she said, 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:46.080 after vacation, you know, as you return to your routine, 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:50.840 your weight will level off. And that's probably true. However, 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:54.920 I was surprised to hear her kind of even feel 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:58.760 like maybe she had experienced weight changes, just because it 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:02.040 looked like it was done free and mindfully. And I 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:04.840 don't know if she if she experienced weight changes herself, 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:07.600 but it kind of just like blanketed this idea that 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:09.560 when we go on vacation, when we eat foods that 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:12.480 we don't eat, we gain weight. But when you return 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:14.840 and you get back to your exercise and your water 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:18.200 and your whatever the way that you eat, your body 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:21.959 levels out. Which again it wasn't terrible, the worst advice 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:25.119 I've ever heard, but it really perpetuated I think the 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:29.320 fear for people that vacations lead to weight gain period 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:33.080 when I truly believe that if your life is not 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:36.760 so different from your vacation, you will not experience that 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:40.639 because maybe you're eating completely different foods on vacation because 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:44.360 you're in different countries and having different experiences, but you're 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:48.280 staying connected to your body's cues, your enjoyment, your hunger fullness, 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:53.439 which is perfectly letting you know your energy balance needs. 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:55.719 If that makes any sense. Is that too abstract? Does 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:57.920 that make sense? No? I mean it's making sense. I 0:18:57.920 --> 0:18:59.439 think some people might have to sit with it a 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:01.640 little bit, but it is I mean energy, what your 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:05.040 body needs to do, what it needs to do. That 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:09.679 food is the calories are the energy, and you're staying 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:12.840 in tune with what your body needs, whether on vacation 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:15.760 or not. Like if you think pasta, you know, a 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:18.600 typical high carb food that people are afraid of, you 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:20.480 know is bad for you, and you go on vacation 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:22.679 and you allow yourself to eat it. There's a certain 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:25.919 point that the pasta is enough pasta for you and 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:28.760 your body lets you know. However, if you're in that 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:31.000 mode of oh, this is the one time I could 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:35.000 eat pasta because I'm in Italy, You're becoming disconnected from 0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:39.640 that and possibly, you know, eating more than you necessarily need, 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:43.320 not necessarily portion is probably a whole other story, but 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:47.119 I think it's just recognizing that weight gain is not 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:49.520 like you go on vacation and then you gain weight 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:52.520 just because you enjoy food. And I didn't love that 0:19:52.600 --> 0:19:56.520 takeaway because my favorite part of working with clients pre 0:19:56.640 --> 0:19:59.400 COVID this was, I should say, was over the summers 0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:01.280 when many of them would travel to Europe and go 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:04.040 at all these places and finding that they would eat 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:06.920 foods and for the first time they weren't binging on them, 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:09.600 and they felt comfortable in their body, getting gelato in 0:20:09.680 --> 0:20:12.680 Italy and all these things, and they were enjoying the food. 0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:15.359 But there was no conversation about, Okay, well now what 0:20:15.520 --> 0:20:18.320 because I gained weight when I got back, Because when 0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:21.120 they got home, they could also still have ice cream here, 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:24.639 you know, right, I was going to even say, like, 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:27.960 it may not be a gelato on vacation for someone 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:30.439 listening right now, it might be a saturday at the 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:33.879 ice cream shop with your kids. It can still be 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:37.359 just that and honoring that time and that space and 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:39.840 I too want to say, it's like when you have 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:43.000 that connection, when you're disconnected, you won't have this, But 0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:49.120 it's what your body, mind, soul, spirit, everything needs. You're 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:53.280 feeding more than just like what's great point, because it's 0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:57.040 it's a mind, body spirit connection that starts to happen. 0:20:57.440 --> 0:20:59.200 And some people might be like, wait, wait, no, we're 0:20:59.200 --> 0:21:02.280 just talking food here, but no, we're talking when food 0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:06.920 is attached to family or friends and memories and trips 0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:10.480 or local visits to that ice cream shop with your kid, 0:21:10.640 --> 0:21:15.200 it's like bonding. Bonding. Yes, there is something going on 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:18.240 that is releasing all types of things inside of you 0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:20.160 that are that are good for you and getna quote 0:21:20.200 --> 0:21:23.160 unquote fill you up. And I want to circle back 0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:26.240 to something before I forget. And you brought up about 0:21:26.400 --> 0:21:29.720 bathroom on vacation and it's so crazy. I'm like, how 0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:32.040 does my body know I'm in a different place and 0:21:32.040 --> 0:21:33.439 it doesn't want to go to the bathroom. And I 0:21:33.480 --> 0:21:36.360 swear to you what's hilarious is the minute I got home. 0:21:36.400 --> 0:21:38.240 And this may not be for everybody, and this doesn't 0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:39.600 happen to me all the time that it happened to 0:21:39.640 --> 0:21:41.280