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Speaker 1: I'm so The short version is that I saw that

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Speaker 1: My Stepmother Is an Alien was playing on Comedy Central,

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Speaker 1: She doesn't touch it, so I just.

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Speaker 2: She's not going to be mad yet you're taping over

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Speaker 2: remember those? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I do remember those because my neighbor. I can't say

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Speaker 1: Got at a flea market.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, that's incredible.

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Speaker 1: I know. I wonder if they still have it. I

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Speaker 2: But well, make sure once this is done rewinding, and

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Speaker 1: but here's the thing. I recorded it in SLP, so

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Speaker 1: is all I'm saying. Basically, I'm trying to My next

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Speaker 1: La Lapalooza ninety three, so I'm gonna have to find

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Speaker 1: Is it Maxel or Maxwell? I think it's Max l

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Speaker 1: Okay go, Yeah, right, that sounds good. Well, mainly we

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Speaker 2: VHS's because today's episode is all about those VHS classics

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Speaker 2: So, Milly, is your tape done?

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Speaker 1: Hmmm, Yes, it's done. Okay, okay, Well stay tuned, everybody.

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Speaker 1: Jericho in case your brain and yeah, this whole episode

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Speaker 1: my first experience, like very very early days of going

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Speaker 1: to video stores were actually on military basis. Interesting because

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Speaker 1: my father is retired Air Force guy and I don't

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Speaker 1: know military brats weigh in on this if this was

436
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Speaker 1: your experience, But my dad to this day is obsessed

437
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Speaker 1: with like the BX, which is stands for the Base Exchange.

438
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Speaker 1: It's also called a PX a post exchange. I think

439
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Speaker 1: if you're like in the army or something like that.

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Speaker 1: But it's basically like a variety store meets department store

441
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Speaker 1: that has all the things that you would need I

442
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Speaker 1: guess if you're a soldier or something, and so there's

443
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Speaker 1: like clothes. There's also the commissary, which is the grocery store.

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Speaker 1: That's a separate thing. But basically the BXPX is like

445
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Speaker 1: a place where you can get like it's like a

446
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 1: little mini target, except definitely not as cool as a target.

447
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 1: And so it was like but you could also get

448
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 1: like uniform stuff there. You could get house wears, clothing, shoes, CDs,

449
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: and DVDs. And then they had at the one that

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Speaker 1: I remember going to when we were living in South Carolina,

451
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 1: they actually had a tiny little video rental desk where

452
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: you could rent VHS tapes, and so I remember going

453
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Speaker 1: there and their selection was pretty bad from what I remember,

454
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Speaker 1: was very very small.

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Speaker 2: Was it all like military related movies?

456
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Speaker 1: No?

457
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 2: Private Benjamin, Well, the real major pain.

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Speaker 1: The reality is now if you if you go to

459
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Speaker 1: like a VXPX and you go to like their DVD

460
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Speaker 1: section or something like that, it's all like Marvel stuff.

461
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Speaker 1: It's like, what does soldiers want to watch? Like Marvel,

462
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: Fast Enough, Furious, like whatever. You're not going to find

463
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Speaker 1: any Peter Greenaway movies.

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Speaker 2: I can hear in it.

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Speaker 1: But then you know, We started going to our local

466
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Speaker 1: video store in when we moved to Georgia, and it

467
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: was this place called Blackwell Video. If you were Marietta,

468
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: Georgia kid, you remember Blackwell Video And like the Blackwell

469
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 1: Square shopping center, this place was fucking huge, Like it

470
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Speaker 1: was huge. It was like the size of a like

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Speaker 1: a Blockbuster Video. And this was the store that like

472
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Speaker 1: really formed me, like really formed my VHS consumption. And

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Speaker 1: I my parents were obsessed with running videos because they,

474
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Speaker 1: like I said, they never wanted to go to first

475
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Speaker 1: run movies. They thought they were too expensive. There was

476
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Speaker 1: actually next door to the video store there was a

477
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Speaker 1: fifty cent movie theater. Whoa yes, which is where I

478
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: saw Ernest Ghost Camp among other things. Yeah, it was

479
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Speaker 1: like a little two screen called Blackwell Cinema fifty cents.

480
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Speaker 1: My parents were obsessed with that. They love they love

481
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: a dollar movie theater. They were like a fifty cent

482
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: movie theater even better. So we spent a lot of

483
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Speaker 1: time in that shopping center, between the fifty cent movie

484
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Speaker 1: theater and the Blackwell Video.

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Speaker 2: My first video store growing up, the big video store

486
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Speaker 2: was Mister Movies, which I've talked about on previous episodes.

487
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Speaker 2: It was kind of a chain in the Midwest, like

488
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Speaker 2: Minnesota and Wisconsin. I think there was several locations, but

489
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Speaker 2: the one there's one in South Minneapolis, and that's where

490
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Speaker 2: my mom, you know, created chicks Picks.

491
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Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, she was her little suffragette era, yes or yeah.

492
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Speaker 2: But it was just I still I can close my

493
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 2: eyes and see the layout perfectly still to this day.

494
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 2: I think it closed in like two thousand and nine.

495
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Speaker 2: I want to say, wow, I mean that's really where

496
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Speaker 2: you know, the love of movies was born at that

497
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Speaker 2: video store. Well, maybe we can transition into another topic

498
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Speaker 2: of conversation, which is the VHS covers, because so much

499
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Speaker 2: a part of the video store experience and the VHS

500
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Speaker 2: experience is like walking down the aisles and like looking

501
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Speaker 2: at the covers and being like, ooh, what is that?

502
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 2: What is that movie? And being intrigued and wanting to

503
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Speaker 2: see these movies based solely on the covers, or being

504
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 2: frightened or tantalized by these covers. But do any VHS

505
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 2: covers come to mind for you from you know, early

506
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 2: on that kind of we're tantalizing.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean I have gone on record. I've

508
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Speaker 1: gone on record with some of these choices.

509
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Speaker 2: And we've talked about this to some degree in the past,

510
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 2: but this is our official discussion.

511
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Speaker 1: So the one that immediately pops to mind, this is

512
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Speaker 1: I've gone on record of saying this many many times.

513
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Speaker 1: Very formative for me was the American release of Dario

514
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Speaker 1: Argento's movie Phenomena, and it was called Creepers in America, right,

515
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Speaker 1: And the cover of Creepers, the American version was essentially

516
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: Jennifer Conley, a painting or an artist running of Jennifer

517
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: Conley being devoured by bugs and half of her face

518
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: is missing.

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00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 2: Ooh.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, I don't know, this isn't inherent to

521
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Speaker 1: my experience. This is I mean, there's entire books written

522
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Speaker 1: about this about kids from my generation who would go

523
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Speaker 1: to the horror section of VHS rental places and like

524
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: we were like traumatized by the covers in a good way,

525
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: by the way.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it like formed us, right, absolutely, A lot of

527
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Speaker 2: my VH you know, the tantalizing VHS covers are horror.

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00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I think it's because, Yeah, I mean,

529
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Speaker 1: you're just like a young person and you're like in

530
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: this forbidden area and you know that you're like I'm

531
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Speaker 1: probably like nine or ten years old, and I'm like, oh, fuck,

532
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: like I can't be and my parents will never let

533
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: me rent, you know, Happy Birthday to Me?

534
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, but am I gonna.

535
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: Stare at the cover of it with the guy getting

536
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Speaker 1: the shish kabab putting the back of his brain or

537
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: whatever like through the mouth?

538
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,959
Speaker 2: Like yes? And yeah. It's like one of those things

539
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 2: where you're like, oh, I don't want an adult to

540
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: see me like staring at this cover because I might

541
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 2: get in trouble for even looking at it.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I'll tell you, like so between Creepers, Happy

543
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: Birthday to Me and April Fool's Day, right, because there

544
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: was the cover of April Fool's Day with the girl

545
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: that had like the noose braid? Did you ever see

546
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: that one?

547
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 2: Yes? I know exactly where you're doing, right.

548
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Speaker 1: So there was like these very simple horror covers that

549
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: really made an impact. Another one huge one for me

550
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Speaker 1: was Hello Mary Lou prom Night two, which was the

551
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Speaker 1: sequel to prom Night. I was obsessed with the cover

552
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: of Hello Mary Lou prom Night two.

553
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.

554
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: I thought that woman who was on the cover of

555
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: it coming out of the locker was one of the

556
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: most beautiful women I've ever seen in my life.

557
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: Fascinating, okay, and I.

558
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: Wanted to look like her. Like I was like, I

559
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,959
Speaker 1: don't know, she was obviously like demonic or whatever, but

560
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: like I was like, this is I mean, if you

561
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: were growing up in like nineteen eighty seven and you

562
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: were a girl and you were obsessed with the idea

563
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: of maybe going to prom, this was your era. Because

564
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: this was like the era of like Jessica McClintock dresses

565
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: and like you wouldn't get a copy of like seventeen

566
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: magazine or something like that, and you would see like

567
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: the prom episode the prom issues and it would be

568
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: like all these fantastic, huge eighties dresses like jess come

569
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: a Clintalk Zumzon like all these like and it was

570
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: basically like her look was like my ultimate eighties late

571
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: eighties prom check look. And I was like, I want

572
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Speaker 1: to be Hello, Mary Lou Promte too, lady. So there

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Speaker 1: was the horror section right, all those that I've mentioned then,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if your video store had this. Now,

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Speaker 1: this was again something that was prevalent, I would say,

576
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Speaker 1: in these like mom and pop type places because as

577
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: the decade wore on as you know, the Blockbusters and

578
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: the video updates and the movies, all these like big.

579
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Speaker 2: Chains were taking Hollywood video.

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Speaker 1: Hollywood video is huge, so this kind of fell out

581
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: of fashion, I would say. But like Blackwell Video had

582
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Speaker 1: the curtain in the back that had like the porns.

583
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Speaker 2: We did not have that. I think that that because

584
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 2: mister Movies was technically a chain. Okay, but I think,

585
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 2: like you said, that happens at the mom and pop shops.

586
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 2: The horny mom and pops want their porno videos.

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00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's so fucking crazy because then you would

588
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Speaker 1: I feel like we talked about this, and I saw

589
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Speaker 1: what you did or something, or like we were talking,

590
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 1: we talked about this. At some point you would see

591
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Speaker 1: like the dads from your neighborhood like kind of look

592
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 1: around and then maybe like take a little peek back there.

593
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, Jeff's dad's back in the in the

594
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: curtain section, what's up with that? But the craziest part

595
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Speaker 1: was that and from what I remember at Blackwell, before

596
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: you got to the curtain around the curtain were like

597
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: kind of the like sexy comedies that.

598
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 2: Weren't like rated x oh so almost it's like sex

599
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 2: is permeating from this area that's spilling into the normal sections.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so there was a so there's a couple of

601
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 1: VHS tapes that were hanging out in this like sexy

602
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: comedy section that was like basically like the buffer zone

603
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: between the X rated stuff and the regular stuff. And

604
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: there was this cover of this movie which I've never

605
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: seen and apparently it's Australian, but it's this movie called

606
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Speaker 1: Alvin Purple from nineteen seventy three, and the cover was

607
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: literally just a picture of two people's feet. One is

608
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Speaker 1: a man right with big, giant feet, and the other one,

609
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Speaker 1: I assume is a woman with smaller feet.

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Speaker 2: And she's looking at it right now.

611
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: She's in between him.

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00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 2: Right and it says he puts more than a little

613
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Speaker 2: color into girl's cheeks.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it seems very sexy. But in my mind I

615
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: looked at that cover and was like, I think those

616
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: people are having sex because why were their feet Why

617
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: would their feet be like that?

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Speaker 2: You know, Jackie Weaver's in this movie.

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Speaker 1: Uh huh, I've never seen it. It seems like I

620
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't like it, but just because I don't like

621
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: stuff like this, But you know, but so there was

622
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: that movie. And then very similarly, I can't even say

623
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Speaker 1: this without laughing.

624
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:38,959
Speaker 2: There was.

625
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: Next to Alvin Purple. It was the cover of this

626
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: cheiach and Chong movie called Chiachin Chongs the Corsican Brothers

627
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: from nineteen eighty four, and it was basically a fucking

628
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: one of those like police Academy drawings of like Chiach

629
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: and Chong as babies and they're being held in the

630
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: arms of this woman with huge boobs.

631
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Speaker 2: And I was like.

632
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: Stunned when I saw that. I was like, why are

633
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: these grown men with beards? Why are they babies? And

634
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: why are they like grabbing this woman's breasts? So that

635
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: is literally like the covers that I remember is that

636
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: they were always horror and like sex comedies.

637
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 2: So I'm basically my category is falling into the same

638
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:38,439
Speaker 2: things because it was like not because basically I there

639
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 2: was like the sexy covers. Like for me at the time,

640
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 2: there was the Nicole Kidman movie To Die For. I

641
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 2: was like, ooh here, and then of course my beloved

642
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: Pam Anderson with barbed Wire, the barbed wire cover. I

643
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 2: would be like, hello, So those are two. I kind

644
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 2: of floated around, you know, checking out But the other

645
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 2: category of VHS covers that really had an impact on

646
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Speaker 2: me and really scared me were I would describe this

647
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 2: genre as like silly stupid things that are scary, and

648
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 2: that includes Child's Play two specifically, that cover really scared me,

649
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 2: Like Chucky really scared me as a kid, and I

650
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 2: was like really horrified at what that movie could be.

651
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 2: And the other one was Killer Clowns from Outer Space,

652
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 2: because that's also a horror movie that's like rated R,

653
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 2: and I'm like, but this looks silly. It's supposed to

654
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 2: be funny. Clowns are supposed to be fun, but this

655
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 2: is are rated and they're killing people. And so I

656
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: would be very scared and intrigued by those covers as well.

657
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 2: And then I would say the third category is like

658
00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 2: weird looking guy in profile. So for example, Gummo, I

659
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 2: was like pretty young when that came out, but the

660
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 2: cover of that with the kids, the side of the

661
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 2: kid's head, you know he's looking. And then also the

662
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 2: cover for the movie The City of Lost Children from

663
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety five, it's like that weird looking guy with

664
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 2: the contraption on his head. Oh yeah, I mean all

665
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 2: of these were very these movies. You'd see these covers

666
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 2: and you'd just be like, what could this possibly be about?

667
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 2: You couldn't even construct a movie in your head to

668
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 2: figure out what it was like too horrifying to even

669
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 2: be able to put together in my own mind. So

670
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: it's just totally you know. I it was like in

671
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 2: one of my in my when like I had like

672
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 2: an ongoing list in my head of like when I'm

673
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: old enough, I'm gonna watch that because I need to

674
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 2: know what's going on in there. Well, so those were

675
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 2: some of the covers I was most intrigued by as

676
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 2: a youth. Yeah.

677
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: Well, and like if you put the covers of Gumo

678
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: and City of Lost Children next year, it feels like

679
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: it's the same person. It's kind of a gaunt looking person.

680
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: And then with City of Lost Children there's like some

681
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: kind of crazy like steampunk nine inch snails, the downward

682
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: spiral shit happening, which I could as a kid, I

683
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: could tell you these are these would be terrifying.

684
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. So, yeah, so those are the covers that

685
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 2: I would just like, I would be like, what is that?

686
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: What is going on in there? And it's exciting to

687
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 2: have these feelings of like Unknown and mystery and horror

688
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: you know await to you. So those are the covers,

689
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 2: But what are some of Like what are some of

690
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 2: the VHS classics, like the classic movies? Maybe we can

691
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 2: each do like three or four? Uh, Like, how do

692
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 2: you define a VHS classic, I guess is the first question.

693
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 2: Then what are some of the movies that fall under

694
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 2: that for you?

695
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: So I think it's either two things. I think it's

696
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: either number one, a movie that you rented over and

697
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 1: over and over again, sure right, which there were several,

698
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: some have made it to this list, some haven't. The

699
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: other is like movies that you owned and would watch,

700
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: because that, I feel like is a separate thing. It took.

701
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: It's actually really funny if I think about, like my

702
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: parents spending habits when when it comes to physical media, Okay,

703
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: they were so fucking random because my parents have no

704
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: I've joked about this before. They have like no allegiance

705
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: to literally anything, Like they don't buy things, like, they

706
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: don't care about No, they really don't, like I'll even

707
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: say politically, they don't. They never have a firm foothold

708
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: in literally anything. Ever, I feel like recently that's changed.

709
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:06,439
Speaker 1: My dad absolutely hates Donald Trump, But if you had

710
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: talked to him in any other decade or any other iteration,

711
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: he would literally like couldn't tell you who he voted for.

712
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 2: He's just not like, yeah.

713
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: You know, which is a parent thing. I guess That's

714
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: all I'll say about that. But they were different, different generations,

715
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: and they were just completely agnostic when it came to

716
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: like any movie, any album, anything like they don't like

717
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: my dad would like watch something on TNT like The

718
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 1: Mummy Returns and be like, that's my favorite movie of

719
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: all time. I'm like, there's no way like or whatever.

720
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: He'd watch like something on TV and be like, that's

721
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: the funniest movie I've ever seen. Euro Trip. But I'm like,

722
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: come on, Which is why I'm like the way I am,

723
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: I guess. But like if you would go through their DVDs,

724
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: like you would look at they they only had like

725
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: twenty and it'd be like some random shit and I

726
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,959
Speaker 1: don't know why they would buy it. Yeah, But when

727
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: VHS was popping off, VHS's were really expensive.

728
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 2: Well when they first would like be released, Like a

729
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 2: movie would first come out on VHS and if it

730
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 2: was a popular movie, I think it would be like

731
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,720
Speaker 2: thirty bucks. Yes, Like it's like it was expensive.

732
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: It was expensive. It was the kind of thing where

733
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 1: like if you were a kid and you like wanted

734
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: to buy VHS tape, you would have to like ask

735
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: for one for Christmas and that's the only present you're

736
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 1: getting or something.

737
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 2: I got free Willie on VHS and that was like

738
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 2: the big gift and had just come out.

739
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: You know, well, I was gonna say this during the

740
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: Pewee Love that you gave earlier, so I own I

741
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 1: think I still have it. I might not to be honest,

742
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: but you know they put out the Pee Wee's Playhouse

743
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: Collection on VHS. Yeah, and there was like I don't know,

744
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: ten fifteen tapes and then the sides all it was

745
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: basically one huge graphic of Peewee. If you put all

746
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: the tapes side by side in order so on your shelf,

747
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: it would just look like a cool pee Wee Herman

748
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 1: you know figure or whatever. My parents to this day

749
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: were like, remember when we bought that Pea Herman collection?

750
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: How much money we spent on that? Like they were like,

751
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 1: if you don't, if you don't have this for your

752
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: for your ancestors to sell on eBay, one day, I

753
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: was like, Mom, everyone had that, so don't worry about it.

754
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: But they were like, oh, we spent like two hundred

755
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: dollars on this whole collection, and like it's almost like

756
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: they had paid for like some kind of huge gift,

757
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 1: like where they.

758
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 2: Were like, they're not going to give you a wedding

759
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 2: gift now because they paid you. They bought you the

760
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 2: Peewee Herman H box set.

761
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: But to that point, that's how expensive these ships were.

762
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: So back when my parents were deciding on whether or

763
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: not it would be worth the buy a VHS, they

764
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 1: would like, we if we if we buy this tape,

765
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: it'll be on sale, but be it'll also be something

766
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 1: that we want to own. It was a huge deal

767
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: to own, I think back at least at the very beginning.

768
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 2: So there was sort of an understanding. It's like this

769
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 2: is it is sort of for practical reasons, like we're

770
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 2: going to watch this over and over again, so it's

771
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 2: just better if we own it. It's an investment.

772
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 1: Well, and that's exactly what happened. So I was obsessed

773
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: with that movie The Cutting Edge. Oh boy, I talked

774
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 1: about this before. What year did that come out?

775
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 2: N I don't Pick. There's a bit of a Minnesota

776
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 2: connection to that too, is.

777
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: The Dorsey from Minnesota as I was, I believe he is.

778
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, listen, I've gone on record talking about

779
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: how much I love this movie. In fact, D B.

780
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: Sweetey he wrote to me personally and told me that

781
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 1: he heard me talking about how big of a crush

782
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: I had on him. So I was so fucking obsessed

783
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: with the Cutting Edge that I was like, this is

784
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: the movie I want to own. Sure, I was like

785
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 1: by it for me, like I don't care, like out

786
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: Christmas and Birthday, that'll be my gift. So I got

787
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: a copy of The Cutting Edge on cassette and wore

788
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: it the fuck out. I watched it probably like twenty times.

789
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: So that is a huge one for me, Like that

790
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: would consider that to be a VHS classic for me. Yeah,

791
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: then I think there were like here's the other thing too.

792
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: I'm in a caveat what I just said about the

793
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: two about owning and renting. There also were movies that

794
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: were just so that they came out in the high

795
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 1: era of VHS that I feel like everybody owned.

796
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 2: Type of thing. Yes, that is its own category. I

797
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 2: feel like that also falls under VHS classic, Like every

798
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 2: house you went to had this.

799
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: It's kind of like, is it the Jerry McGuire thing,

800
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: isn't that like a thing.

801
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 2: Well, yes, there's like a I don't know, you'd call

802
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 2: them a film collective, an art collective called Everything is

803
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 2: Terrible in Los Angeles, and they have this like exhibit

804
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 2: where they're basically collecting Jerry mcgare. It's like a they

805
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 2: had like a pop up VHS store of only Jerry

806
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 2: McGuire VHS tapes. Yeah, like thousands of them.

807
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: So that like I would consider that kind of a

808
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: VHS classicos everybody, But for me, I think my VHS

809
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: classics were definitely stuff like the cutting edge, dirty Dancing.

810
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 1: Huge in our house was so I married an Axe Murderer.

811
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: We watched the fuck out of that on VHS constantly,

812
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: So most of my rentals were always because my parents

813
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: like an SNL adjacent comedy, So was all that stuff

814
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 1: for me. VHS classics for me were very heavily influenced

815
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: by Saturday Night Live movies. So, uh, so I married

816
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 1: an axe murder Wayne's World, Yes, that kind of stuff.

817
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel like I've been talking a

818
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: long time I want to hear a little bit more

819
00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: about your what you think is a class and what

820
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: are some of your classics.

821
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, we weren't owning. I feel like

822
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 2: we did buy some VHS's, but we were such a

823
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 2: heavy rental family, Like it was like we were renting

824
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 2: all the time that I don't know if we just

825
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 2: didn't feel the need to buy as much, you know,

826
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 2: like we were gifted them, but it's like we didn't

827
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 2: like seek out buying VHS tapes that much. I think

828
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 2: we owned Hook, Steven Spielberg's Hook. I think we owned Jumanji.

829
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 2: You know, we had some Disney ones, but I don't

830
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 2: really feel I feel more connected to the ones we'd

831
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 2: like repeat rentals, not just with my family, but like

832
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 2: friends too. And one of the I mean one of

833
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 2: the ultimate VHS movies I think is Jurassic Park from

834
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety four, just because that movie was such a

835
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 2: big deal when it came out, and the poster is

836
00:48:55,880 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 2: so good and the VHS cover is so iconic, and

837
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 2: it just it looked great and I just feel like

838
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,919
Speaker 2: people everybody had that on their shelves at that time.

839
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 2: So I would include that as a VHS classic. Then

840
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 2: I would say, you know, it's like just think about

841
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 2: the movies that we rented all the time as a kid.

842
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 2: One it was Heavyweights. We rented that movie a lot

843
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 2: of course as children. We also we would rent this

844
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:33,439
Speaker 2: movie with Bill Cosby called Ghost Dad all the time

845
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 2: because it was like we kind of liked sort of

846
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 2: it wasn't really scary, but there's like sort of a

847
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 2: horror element. A terrible film, but like we thought that

848
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 2: it's just funny when you like grow up and you

849
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,919
Speaker 2: learn that these movies are like so bad and were

850
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 2: like total bombs but were like really popular. Yeah in

851
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 2: your own house, did you have any of those that

852
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 2: were like really vital and important to you? But you're like,

853
00:49:59,400 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 2: oh that was.

854
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Like I was nothing but trouble speaking of

855
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: like Dead Acroid, Oh my god, Like we watched the

856
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: fuck out of that and I was like, oh, this

857
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: is a masterpiece.

858
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 2: No it's not.

859
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: It's actually critically panned.

860
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 2: It's like everybody hates this movie.

861
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: Well, and here's the thing too. There was like I

862
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: don't know if you want to make this distinction or

863
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 1: you're about to make this distinction, but there was like

864
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,760
Speaker 1: kind of two big eras for me my personal consumption.

865
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: So there was childhood VHS rentals and light purchases, and

866
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: then when I got to college, like high school and college.

867
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,720
Speaker 1: Now VHS was still being used when I was in college.

868
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: So I went to college in like ninety seven, and

869
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: I was still renting VHS tapes from my local Atlanta

870
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: video store, Blossom Video. Right. I don't remember renting DVDs

871
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: until much later. I don't know why, but we were

872
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: still fucking with VHS back then. I also worked at

873
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: Tower Records for a brief period, and I would actually

874
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: use my employee discount to buy VHS tapes there. So

875
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: there's like this whole new era of my life after

876
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: I left my parents' house, where I was like buying

877
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: my own tapes a lot of times, like going to

878
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,959
Speaker 1: thrift stores and finding tapes and there's this one. I'll

879
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: show it to you actually please. There's actually two so

880
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: very very early days of when I was in the

881
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: film program at GSU, I was starting to get into

882
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: exploitation film and I found this VHS tape that is

883
00:51:51,800 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 1: a movie called Crazy Fat Ethel two. Okay, Crazy Ethyl too, Yes,

884
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: and no, there was a one released by a company

885
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:10,720
Speaker 1: called video treasures. Now the warning there's a warning label.

886
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: I loved warning labels. Don't you love those warning labels.

887
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 2: This is just beautiful cover beautiful.

888
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: The warning label says warning skull and crossbones never come

889
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: between Ethyl and a well stocked refrigerator.

890
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 2: Okay, now that warning is I guess warning the viewer

891
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 2: not if they encounter Ethyl out in the wild, to

892
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 2: not get in between her and a refrigerator.

893
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: I suppose I thought it was going to be like warning,

894
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: this video will kill you, like whatever They're like, don't

895
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: watch this movie unless you're ready to die, or some

896
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: kind of like you know, faces of death scenario. No,

897
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: it's really just the warning is that Ethyl is fat, essentially,

898
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 1: which is so crazy to me. But so I I

899
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 1: saw this at a like a antique store for five dollars,

900
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: and I was, so, I have no reference for this.

901
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 1: And again, this is like ninety seven. I hadn't even

902
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: seen the first movie yet, so I was like, I

903
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: have to buy this because this is just so insane.

904
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: And then I watched it and was like, this is

905
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: the one of the weirdest movies I've ever seen. It

906
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 1: was like pretty much shot on camcorder. I found out

907
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: later that this is actually a sequel to a movie

908
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: that was made much earlier called Criminally Insane, and it's

909
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 1: literally a movie about a murderous fat woman and it's

910
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: like a like trash, like no budget classic. In fact,

911
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 1: this entire there's a whole mythology around Ethyl and Criminally

912
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 1: Insane that I was just skimming the fucking surface with

913
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: crazy fat Ethel too. I didn't realize that there was

914
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: like a whole bunch of other movie is that the

915
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 1: director made with this actress. Priscilla Alden, who plays Ethel.

916
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 2: Is not does she prefer fat Ethel or she is?

917
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: I don't think she prefers any of it, honestly. But like,

918
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: here's the thing. So I pick up this VHS tape

919
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: expecting like, oh, this is gonna be some weird thing,

920
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: and then I fell down a rabbit hole of wonder

921
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: and excitement.

922
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 2: Amazing, I just did.

923
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: I did a commentary track for the re release of

924
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 1: Criminally Insane with Elizabeth Purchell, my friend Elizabeth Purchell, who's

925
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 1: also a film critic and a film historian. But that's

926
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 1: like buying this tape like essentially changed my life. And

927
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: I had no idea why it just did so. Anyway,

928
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 1: this is obviously huge classic VHS classic for me in

929
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: my adult era, and then the other ones are just

930
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: sort of like like this, I'm holding this up and

931
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: none of you can see it. The clamshell of blood

932
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: Fees Trshall Gordon Lewis Blood Feast that has I don't

933
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 1: know if y'all remember clamshells, but it's basically the giant

934
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: VHS tape that was basically like can you hear this ASMR? Yeah,

935
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: a little squish here, it comes in a plastic It

936
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: was basically a VHS tape coming inside of a plastic

937
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: tray into a much bigger box.

938
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 2: And I that was like early.

939
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: VHS technology, or ultimately it'd be the old Disney clamshells

940
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: where it's be like the white case where you opened

941
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 1: it up.

942
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:39,280
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I remember. Yeah, my free Willie VHS

943
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 2: tape was in a clamshell. I recall.

944
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,879
Speaker 1: Well, what made you want to collect them again?

945
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 2: That's a great question. I think partially I live in

946
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 2: a house now and I have room to just buy junk,

947
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 2: whereas before I was in apartments and I didn't want

948
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 2: to move with that stuff. And I also think there's

949
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 2: something about I've been sort of interested in really getting

950
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 2: away from streaming technology, and there's something very exciting about

951
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:17,959
Speaker 2: like sort of the analog quality of a VHS tape,

952
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 2: Like it's like the physical tape itself. And maybe I'm

953
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 2: preparing for an apocalypse where we don't have the Internet

954
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,919
Speaker 2: and I want to be able to watch movies, yeah,

955
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 2: on a little TV, and I don't know, it's an

956
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 2: you know, there's like the trailers are attached to it.

957
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 2: It's a whole thing. It feels like more of a

958
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 2: movie production than even like a regular Blu ray DVD

959
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:52,280
Speaker 2: does now. And also they're cheap and that that's enticing

960
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,240
Speaker 2: for me as well, yea in collecting.

961
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 1: Them so well, and like to your point, like I mean,

962
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: I'm not going to get out of soapbox about this

963
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: because we've talked about this so much with Brian Sower,

964
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 1: who we had on the podcast, and you know, just

965
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 1: the common wisdom as to why you should even own

966
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: physical media at all, which is that it's basically a

967
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: reliable physical presence of something that you can own and

968
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: watch whenever you want to, and you don't have to

969
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: rely on the cloud or the fucking whims of the

970
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: industry to take shit away from you.

971
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 2: Right, we were just talking about twenty eight days later. Yeah,

972
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 2: gotta buy it.

973
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: I mean there are things where there are times where

974
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: I mean I even have this like instinct about see

975
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: something on the internet. I'm like, damn, I wish I

976
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: could just record that onto a VHS sensor so i'd

977
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: have it, because it's almost like that was what it

978
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 1: felt like to, especially to record things off of television,

979
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: was that you just wanted a physical copy of something

980
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: because you're like, this is never going to play again,

981
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: or I don't know, i'd have to, especially when it

982
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: came to stuff like MTV and things that felt a

983
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:02,959
Speaker 1: little bit more less kind of like television appointment viewing

984
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: and more just kind of ephemeral experiences where I'm like,

985
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: I want to watch all these like weird bumpers in

986
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: between music videos totally, you know, or I want to

987
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: watch like commercials or something or war, especially award ceremonies.

988
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: That was a huge thing that I used to record,

989
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 1: like the MTV Movie Music Awards or whatever. So I

990
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: was just thinking like even like times where like there

991
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: are moments from like award ceremonies that were like so

992
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: funny and weird that you're kind of like, oh, if

993
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: nobody recorded it, how would you even see it? You know,

994
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: like even now I think about what was that dive

995
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: that Travolta pronounced that woman's name Adele.

996
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 2: One of my favor we could lead talented Adele Dezime

997
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 2: and it was supposed to be see he says, it's

998
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:58,919
Speaker 2: so wrong. I can never remember the original name. Del

999
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 2: Do what's it Menzelle? Yeah? And she.

1000
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: Her face is like.

1001
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 2: What did he just say?

1002
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 1: Ah? But like that is the ship that like like

1003
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: makes like that was like a something that I'm like, oh,

1004
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: if you can find like nuggets of these things, like

1005
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: and you have it if you haven't recorded I mean shit,

1006
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 1: I mean the internet is different now. You can watch

1007
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: Adell disease anytime.

1008
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 2: You can watch that.

1009
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: But you know, in the day is something that that happened?

1010
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 1: You're like that was like the time where I was

1011
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: like obsessed with.

1012
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 2: There was a.

1013
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: The time where Howard Stern was fart man at the

1014
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: MTV Music Wards and Luke Perry grabbed his ass chips.

1015
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: But I was like, Luke Perry is grabbing a guy's ass.

1016
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 2: I need that on me, Like who recorded it?

1017
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 1: So can I come over after school and watch it

1018
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: over and over?

1019
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 2: I mean that just goes back to kind of the

1020
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 2: ephemeral nature of like television and movies before, because like

1021
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 2: if you missed your favorite show and you weren't able

1022
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:09,439
Speaker 2: to catch it on rerun or whatever, you're like, fuck,

1023
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 2: it's gone. It's most that episode. I just got to

1024
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 2: watch next week, right, I gotta be there on time,

1025
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 2: you know.

1026
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: Well, And like we all sit here in the modern

1027
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: era thinking that we'll never feel that again. We're like, oh, well,

1028
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: everything will be available all the time and we won't

1029
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: we won't have to worry about it. But then it's

1030
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 1: like we were just talking about twenty eight days later,

1031
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: it's like what.

1032
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 2: You can't actually stream now? I'm sorry I lied about that,

1033
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 2: but there's a long time where you couldn't.

1034
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 1: Right, or like remember my name? You know? Yes, likely

1035
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 1: once that goes off Criterion Channel. Maybe it has already

1036
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: as of this recording, I don't know, but where you're

1037
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,439
Speaker 1: gonna watch it, It's that kind of feeling. So that's

1038
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 1: that's the case of collecting things again. But VHS, I

1039
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 1: feel like, is very special to I guess both of

1040
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: us obviously, but like, yeah, for me, you know, it

1041
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 1: was definitely like the biggest way for me to even

1042
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 1: get into film as a young person. Even though I said,

1043
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 1: like I said, my parents were so like like Lucy

1044
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 1: Goosey about renting VHS tapes. They didn't care, but obviously

1045
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: it really imprinted on me the culture of it, and shit,

1046
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't be here for one form VHS.

1047
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 2: Wow. So thank you VHS.

1048
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 1: Is there anything else we should say about chel?

1049
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 2: I think we covered I think we covered everything. I

1050
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 2: love VHS's I love the messy nature. It's an interactive

1051
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 2: kind of format where you're like you are recording things

1052
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 2: off the TV and owning it. I don't know, that's

1053
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 2: like kind of cool, Like it reminds me of when

1054
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 2: I used to record songs off the radio. You know,

1055
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 2: it's like you're a part of it. You know.

1056
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 1: My very first film production experience was when I was

1057
01:01:57,920 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 1: in high school and I was in like an AV

1058
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:03,439
Speaker 1: club type of thing, and we were still recording things

1059
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 1: on v Like we were studsing camquorders, editing deck to

1060
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: deck with a video toaster, and I'll never forget that.

1061
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 1: I'll never forget record like editing two VHS tapes together,

1062
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 1: like they used to do it on like like I mean,

1063
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 1: I just felt like I was in broadcast news or something.

1064
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is so old school.

1065
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 2: I got to do that in film school too.

1066
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I have so many VHS tapes of literally

1067
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 1: like me and my high school friends like running around

1068
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 1: being stupid, like reenacting reserv our dogs.

1069
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 2: So release the tapes you might.

1070
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 1: You might on our social media see a bunch of

1071
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 1: goth kids running around to high school pretending to be

1072
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 1: in reservoir dogs while a manner Astroman song plays the background.

1073
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 2: All right, we're back with you for some film advice,

1074
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 2: where we your advisors, give you advice and how to

1075
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 2: live your life and how to approach movies correctly. And

1076
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 2: we have a voicemail for our first one here and

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Speaker 2: I'm going to play it for you right now.

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Speaker 3: Hi Millie, Hi Casey. I had a question for you

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Speaker 3: guys for film advice. Have you ever had the opportunity

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Speaker 3: to be a judge for a film festival. If so,

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Speaker 3: what are some best practices or any overall advice that

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Speaker 3: you can give to a first time film judge. Thanks

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Speaker 3: love you lots from Rose.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Rose. We love you lots too. Killie you.

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Speaker 2: I can't answer this question, but you can you help Rose.

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Speaker 2: I can.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I have to say, if you have

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Speaker 1: a film festival and you need judges plays, contact us

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Speaker 1: at Dear Movies at exactlyrightmedia dot com.

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Speaker 2: Love to be a judge, being a judge, I would

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01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 2: love to be a judge.

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Speaker 1: So I was, in fact a judge. No, I was

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Speaker 1: actually a judge more than one time. I think it

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01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 1: was twenty fourteen, either twenty thirteen or twenty fourteen. I

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01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 1: was a judge at Fantastic Fest, which is the film

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Speaker 1: festival in Austin, Texas that was put out by Alma Draftows.

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Speaker 2: And attended and performed the same one. Not at that one.

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Speaker 2: Oh we're a different one.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, wouldn't have been crazy if we

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01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 1: were at the same one and we didn't know.

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01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 2: And we bumped shoulders and I'm like, move it, I know.

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Speaker 1: And then they made a movie about it called Past

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01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 1: Lives with the director's slain song. Okay, so the so

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Speaker 1: the the category was like best New Filmmaker somebody. So

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01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 1: it was basically like first time horror genre filmmakers. And

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01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 1: that year was insane, Like well, first of all, it

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01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 1: was insane for a couple of reasons. Number one, I

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01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: was on the jury with two other guys, one of

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Speaker 1: whom was Edgar Ray, the director Edgarray, which was kind

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Speaker 1: of cool and memorable if you're in the edgarat.

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Speaker 2: But the.

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Speaker 1: The movies for the year that we watched were in

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Speaker 1: like they were so good, Like I don't know what

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Speaker 1: happened that year. There was just like a lot of

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Speaker 1: great movies. The most memorable of them was the movie

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Speaker 1: It Follows. Yeah, so that was the movie that won everything.

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Speaker 1: But I remember watching that. We watched that movie as

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Speaker 1: part the jury, which meant you watch it so early.

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01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 1: I mean, like, that's the thing that's cool about film

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Speaker 1: festivals is that a lot of times you're watching things

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Speaker 1: before they become like huge. Yeah, right, because a lot

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Speaker 1: of times, if like you're an independent filmmaker or something,

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Speaker 1: you're taking movies out to the festival circuit to see

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Speaker 1: if you can get distribution. So that's the thing is

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01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 1: that you're watching stuff like way way early, and it's

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Speaker 1: awesome for that reason. That's why I want to be

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Speaker 1: on jurys. But I've been a juror for the Buried

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Speaker 1: Live Film Festival, which is a Horror Movie Festival in Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: the Atlanta Film Festival. So my advice is that a

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Speaker 1: lot of times you have to watch a lot of movies,

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Speaker 1: especially if you have like a big category like first

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Speaker 1: bet you know, like something like me that I had

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Speaker 1: at Fantastic FESTIV which is like a first time filmmaker category.

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Speaker 1: Pace yourself, this is my advice. Don't watch every movie

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Speaker 1: like two days before you're supposed to turn in your submission.

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01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 1: So I'd say pace yourself with the movies. Also, like

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Speaker 1: try to come in with like an open mind and

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01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 1: not have like preconceived notions about things because that, especially

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Speaker 1: if you're on a jury of like where you know

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Speaker 1: the filmmakers or you sort of like kind of know

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01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,479
Speaker 1: the vibes of the people who are making the films,

1142
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna want to, you know, say, oh, well, I

1143
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 1: didn't really like his last film, so let's see what

1144
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 1: this shit's about. Like try to like empty your brain

1145
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 1: of all that stuff and just watch each piece for

1146
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 1: what it is. And that's really I would say the

1147
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Speaker 1: big two is to just pace yourself with watching everything.

1148
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: Watch everything, Watch everything, like you should watch everything. And

1149
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 1: I know this is a little tea that I'm about

1150
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 1: to spill, but I know people who basically hire people

1151
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 1: to watch things for them. Not naming any names, but

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying.

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Speaker 2: Our insider you know, wow, Like they'll, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, if there's interns at the film festival and be like, hey,

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Speaker 1: will you watch all this stuff and tell me.

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Speaker 2: What you think.

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01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 1: I have not reached that level of game where I'm

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01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 1: you know, basically I don't have a research staff. Yeah,

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01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 1: I'm still watching everything, but yeah, I think there it's

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Speaker 1: really really fun and enjoyable. A lot of times you get,

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Speaker 1: like obviously free badges and free accommodations and stuff, which

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Speaker 1: is another reason film festivals are fun.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, film festivals are fun. It does. There's such

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Speaker 2: a great energy at film festivals. It feels like a

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01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 2: little mini retreat or something. I don't know, it's it's

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Speaker 2: they're great.

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Speaker 1: It's like a summer camp. That's what fantastic Summer is like,

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Speaker 1: is a summer camp.

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Speaker 2: Summer camp is a better better than retreat. Doesn't feel

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Speaker 2: like a retreat. It feels like summer camp. That's a

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01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:50,560
Speaker 2: much better way of saying it. Fabulous. Let's move on

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Speaker 2: to our next question from our helpless listeners.

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Speaker 1: Thanks ros.

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Speaker 2: Movie advice request from Cringey Millennial with the spooky ca

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01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 2: title kind of says it. All right there, dear million

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Speaker 2: Casey Day one listener, because I was obsessed with Millie

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Speaker 2: back in the olden days of her podcasts. Alabama girl

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01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 2: here who lived in Decatur marda shout out. I don't

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01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 2: even know what that means. For years, and I adore you,

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Speaker 2: Casey Hey. Oh wait, no, I said that wrong. Let

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01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 2: me say sorry, Alabama girl. Okay, for years and I

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01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 2: adore you, Casey Casey. I feel like you would have

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01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 2: been my best friend or unrequited crush in high school.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go very positive. I love this,

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01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 2: I hate more of this. You need people to boost

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01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:52,800
Speaker 2: me up more anyhow, you both rock. I humbly come

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Speaker 2: to you today for your sage advice. My man's eleven

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01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 2: year old is a horror girly yay like the rest

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Speaker 2: of the fam, but I I struggled to find films

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Speaker 2: that are appropriately scary. She's clocked things like Annabelle, Pet Cemetery,

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01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 2: creep Show, Poltergeist, etc. And I'm running out of ideas.

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01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 2: Six years in. We don't worry so much about blood

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01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:18,559
Speaker 2: or gross effects. But so many films have quote unquote

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Speaker 2: adult themes she's not ready for, and we love watching

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Speaker 2: films together, but are trying not to traumatize her more

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Speaker 2: than we naturally do. She's getting used to my bug collection,

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01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 2: she said parenthetically. So do you have any RECs for

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Speaker 2: an eleven ish year old with a love of all

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Speaker 2: things spooky and scary that won't land me in her

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Speaker 2: therapist's office twenty years from now? Help ps, Scary doll

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01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 2: slash toy slash ghosts are always a favorite. Love y'all.

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Speaker 2: Heaps and from Ohio?

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts?

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Speaker 2: Unrequired cur Rush Few, Well, you know, Ernest scared stupid.

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01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 2: That's got some jump scares in there that an eleven

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01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 2: year old I think could handle. You know, I don't

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01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 2: know if I feel like this movie wasn't like Beloved,

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01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 2: but I thought it was kind of fun and sort

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01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 2: of scary and a kid could watch it scary stories

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01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 2: to tell in the dark based off the scary books.

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01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 2: I thought that movie was pretty good. Thank you. On

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Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. I think that was a pretty good and

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01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 2: like a spooky movie. That's sort of one that came

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Speaker 2: to mind immediately. What about you, Well, I'm glad that Ange.

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Speaker 1: Did a little ps about the scary doll toy ghost thing,

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01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 1: because I actually think that's kind of right on. I

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01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 1: would say gothic horror is kind of like a nice

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01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 1: little launch pad for, you know, people like eleven, twelve,

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01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 1: thirteen year olds anything that's kind of more A lot

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01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 1: of times those movies are like PG. Thirteen or less.

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01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 1: They're kind of atmospheric and creepy, but they're not like

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01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 1: super violent, and they don't really have like a ton

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01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 1: of like adult themes of like sure, I don't know

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01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: whatever fill in the blank, abortion, yeah, abortion, or like

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01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:11,480
Speaker 1: you know, like I don't know, mattress side or patricide

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01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 1: or something. You know, it's like the Stepfather or something.

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Speaker 2: Who who am I here?

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Speaker 1: But the the one that immediately came to mind, and

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01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 1: I mentioned this recently in an episode, was Flowers in

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01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 1: the Attic from nineteen eighty seven, because it's kind of

1231
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:29,560
Speaker 1: like it almost in a weird way, is kind of

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01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 1: like a kid's movie in the sense that the protagonists

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01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 1: or children and they have to like go up against

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01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 1: like an evil grandmother, Like those are those types of

1235
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 1: things are good, and it's it has very scary moments.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that movie scared the shit on me when

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01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 1: I first watched it. But it's also not rough. It's

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01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 1: not like super duper bloody or anything like that. Yeah,

1239
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 1: you might have to deal with like affairs and some

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01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 1: light incest, but whatever, it's not that bad, right, It's

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01:12:59,200 --> 01:12:59,799
Speaker 1: it's late.

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01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 2: It's only kind of alluded to. It doesn't play out,

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01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:05,720
Speaker 2: you know, in real time.

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01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 1: But another thing I was thinking is that kind of

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01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 1: like psychological kind of horror too, Like, uh, there's a

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01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 1: movie from nineteen seventy one. Now, this is a little

1247
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 1: little artsy. I don't know if this is something that,

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01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 1: but it does. It's super viby and it's like very spooky.

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01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 1: But there's this movie called Let's Scare Jessica to Death

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01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 1: mm hmm, and it's basically like I mean, it's kind

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01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 1: of like not what you think it is. It's not

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01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 1: a woman named Jessica being scared to death. It's it's

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01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:42,520
Speaker 1: really kind of more yeah, spoiler alert, it's more nuanced

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01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 1: than that. But it's you know, basically like a little

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01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 1: old school but it's very creepy, kind of supernatural feeling.

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Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, like I think about a movie even

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01:13:56,240 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 1: like Suspiria, the Old Suspiria, which is violent, but it's

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01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 1: not like really hardcore in that way, like it's kind

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01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 1: of I don't want to say it's like artsy violence,

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01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 1: but it's like, I don't know, something like that. And

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01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 1: then if you really just want to go like Lost

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01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 1: Boys type of stuff where it's like teens vampires, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, eves by you I was one that

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01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:29,679
Speaker 1: I would consider part of that kind of let scare

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01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 1: Jessica to death thing. It's kind of like a children

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01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 1: but supernatural, and you know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Okay, I have I actually have two

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01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 2: other ones here, great Return to Oz. Did you ever

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01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 2: see that from nineteen eighty five Return?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 2: I saw that. I think it's Walter Merch, the famed

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01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 2: sound designer's only directorial effort. But it's freaky as shit. Yeah,

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01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:56,880
Speaker 2: it's scary, yeah, and uh it's a kid's movie, but

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01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 2: it's frightening.

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01:14:58,280 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 2: So I highly recommend that one. And then there's this

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Speaker 2: one from nineteen eighty one called Dark Knight of the Scarecrow,

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01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 2: which is like sort of a kid's horror movie but

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01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 2: it's scary and it's got some great actors like Charles

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01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 2: Derning in it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, I feel like when it comes to horror,

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01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 1: it's kind of this weird scale because there's certain you know,

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01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:26,759
Speaker 1: I was like completely unfettered. I could watch literally anything

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01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 1: I wanted because I had no parental supervision. So I

1285
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 1: was eleven and watching stuff like Suspiria and Phenomena and

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01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:38,919
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. But you're kind of Mileage Mayberry

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Speaker 1: type of thing with it. But I do think that

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Speaker 1: like gothic supernatural kids in Peril type of horror tends

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Speaker 1: to be like less violent, less I mean mostly PG

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01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 1: thirteen and below.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, the good Son with Macaulay Culkin. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: a spooky one. Yeah, I thought that was kind of scary.

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Speaker 2: You know, Milly, we have very different movie upbringings because

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01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 2: my parents were not strict, I would say, but they

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01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 2: were very strict about ratings. So like I was not

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Speaker 2: allowed to watch R or PG thirteen's until like the

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01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 2: appropriate ages.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, as we heard in the Prince episode, you weren't

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01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 1: able to listen to Erotic City or something.

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01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 2: I wasn't allowed to listen dirty motherfucker. I believe dirty

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01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 2: mf is what the sexy Oh SEXYMF SEXYF sexy mother. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I wasn't allowed to listen to that when I was

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01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 2: eight years old.

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01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 1: Well, and look at you now, I mean, you're completely normal.

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01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:45,760
Speaker 2: I'm a complete pervert. And uh, but it took me

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01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 2: a long time to get into horror movies. I feel

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01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 2: like I was very activated and frightened by horror movies

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01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 2: all the way through college. Yeah, and now I embrace

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01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 2: them and love them. Yeah, but it took me a while. Yeah,

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01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 2: because I wasn't I was an introduced young enough. I think.

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Speaker 2: So it's good she's getting introduced to horror movies at

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Speaker 2: a young age. I think so too.

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Speaker 1: And actually it's interesting because I know so many people

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01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:13,679
Speaker 1: that actually hate horror movies. Like's not talking about people

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Speaker 1: my age, but especially younger, like people who won't let

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01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 1: their kids watch any horror like the cameras Candice Cameron

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Speaker 1: Lady most recently.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what did she say? She's like, I don't. I

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01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 2: don't allow that because that's opening a portal to evil.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's basically like a portal to hell in her mind.

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01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 1: Which yeah, I'm not saying. I know people who have

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01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:37,679
Speaker 1: her religious beliefs, but they also believe that horror movies

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01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 1: are satanic and evil, and I'm just like what.

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01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:42,680
Speaker 2: I also think there's still a lot of people that

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01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:45,599
Speaker 2: I think horror movies are like, those aren't real movies,

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01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 2: those aren't good movies.

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01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:50,280
Speaker 1: You know, Well you're missing out on some cool shit, y'all.

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01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, well thanks for that question. Ang, we have

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01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 2: one more here in Millie and it's like a bunch

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01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 2: of questions. So let's maybe do a little bit more

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01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 2: Rapid Fire. Sure in this? Okay, here you go. This

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01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 2: is from Rachel. Thank you. I know it's hard to

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01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 2: start a new thing, but I love this podcast. Thank

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01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 2: you for showing up every week. Here's too many more years. Yeah,

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01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 2: million are going to do this well into our sixties,

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01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 2: I hope. So I have movie questions and scenarios. One,

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Speaker 2: let's say someone is going on their third date, a

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01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:22,759
Speaker 2: date at one of their houses. What's a great movie

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01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 2: to watch to ensure an interesting and fun night. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Rapid Fire, Yes, Rapid Fire, let's go.

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01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 1: Okay, So my number one first choice for third date movie,

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Speaker 1: I think the only option, well, actually there's two options,

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01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 1: but one for me would be Phantom Thread. I feel

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01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:47,639
Speaker 1: like after the third date, if you can show Phantom

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01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 1: Thread to somebody and be like, what's your take?

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01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, would you like to be poisoned with mushrooms? Or

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01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 2: would you like to poison me with mushrooms? How are

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01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,719
Speaker 2: you feeling about that? You know, it's a good barometer.

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01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 1: It's a really good barometer. I actually think it's extremely romantic.

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01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 1: One m like, I love you so much, i'd let

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01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:07,720
Speaker 1: you poison me.

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01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:13,760
Speaker 2: Cool. Yeah, it's an unbelievably romantic movie. I love that movie.

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01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:15,720
Speaker 1: We Gotta do that on we Gotta do We've been

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01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 1: talking about it forever. So it's either that or uh

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01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 1: Crodenberg's The Fly. I will say, oh, okay, another very

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01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 1: romantic movie.

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Speaker 2: In a lot of ways, you've got kind of like

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01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 2: you're like putting people to the test. On the third date,

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01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 2: You're like, what do you think? Are you cool? Or

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01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 2: are you not cool?

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01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,640
Speaker 1: Well, that's why I don't date people, because I have

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01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 1: like these extreme rules. I suppose nobody wants to make

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01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 1: it to a third date because they're like, I ain't

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01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 1: trying to watch The Fly with Sherman.

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01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:45,800
Speaker 2: So I'm just gonna say third date, that's what we

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01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 2: call the makeout date. Baby. So I would put on

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01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 2: something that I do not need to watch again, and

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01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 2: it's kind of like silly and don't need to pay

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01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 2: attention to at all. I would put on like the

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01:19:57,240 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 2: Romeo and Juliet with Leonardo decat Aprio and Claire Danes.

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01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 2: We don't need to watch that, we know what's going on.

1372
01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:05,839
Speaker 2: It's just kind of a vibe setter in the background.

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01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:07,680
Speaker 2: So that's what I would play on.

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01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 1: Very interesting your technique. You think that the third date

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01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 1: is the makeout date.

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01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 2: That's the makeout date you're at someone's house. Well, yeah,

1377
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 2: let's put on a movie.

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01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 1: Sure, So you're telling me not to watch the fan thread.

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01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 1: I'm just saying we have very opposite approaches to the

1381
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:29,599
Speaker 1: third date. Listen, this is why you're married with a child.

1382
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 1: I am single, So I think we know who wins.

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01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:37,840
Speaker 2: Okay, number two, let's say I've lost my gusto. What's

1384
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 2: a great movie to remind me that the world is

1385
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 2: a place I'd like to engage in. Maybe a movie

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01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:43,519
Speaker 2: that reminds me I can be better.

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01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 1: Okay, So my choice for this, I'm going a little

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01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 1: bit more trad considering the last question. I'm going to

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01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 1: go for a movie which is a wonderful film. It's

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01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 1: called Sounder from nineteen seventy two.

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01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 2: Oh, I've never seen this.

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01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's lovely. It starts Cicely Tyson and

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01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:07,720
Speaker 1: Paul Winfield. It is uplifting, it's hard. It's like a

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01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 1: story of you know, these southern sharecroppers, very very poor

1395
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 1: black family, but they have this incredible familial bond and

1396
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:22,640
Speaker 1: it's just I mean, it makes me cry buckets like

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01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 1: I am. There's a scene in particular where Cicely Tyson

1398
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 1: is running towards her husband who's come home. I can't

1399
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:33,760
Speaker 1: even talk about it, Like I'm feeling tearful right now.

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01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:37,679
Speaker 1: It's so beautiful. And I don't know what I thought

1401
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 1: about this, because I was like, Okay, there's so many

1402
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 1: of these movies like that I've watched over the years,

1403
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:46,559
Speaker 1: like To Kill a Mockingbird, mister Smith goes to Washington.

1404
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 1: This kind of like purely good, like uplifting, and I

1405
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 1: just was thinking about like the times that we're in,

1406
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 1: and like what kind of movie that would make me

1407
01:21:56,600 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 1: immediately feel better about the world. And I'm like, there's

1408
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 1: no way.

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01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 2: It's so good. It's so good. I I don't know

1410
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:08,760
Speaker 2: if this quite fits the description, but this is a

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01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 2: movie that like really makes me feel good about community

1412
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 2: and maybe sometimes like life can be so heavy at

1413
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:21,679
Speaker 2: times and so like even positive if something good happens,

1414
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 2: it's like a heavy experience, and sometimes life feel should

1415
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 2: be light. It should be light and kind of like nice.

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01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:35,599
Speaker 2: And there's this movie called Local Hero from nineteen eighty

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01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 2: three by Bill Forsyth. It's about a guy from Houston

1418
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 2: who's going to this small town in Scotland to basically

1419
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 2: buy the town to like drill for oil. And he

1420
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:54,560
Speaker 2: gets kind of embedded in this community and everyone's just

1421
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 2: sort of quirky and fun and it's just sort of

1422
01:22:56,880 --> 01:23:00,400
Speaker 2: a light, happy world and it just makes me feel

1423
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 2: good and it makes me feel good about community, and

1424
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 2: because that's like the one thing that you can kind

1425
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 2: of hold on to in these really hard times, is

1426
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 2: like a sense of community your friends and your family.

1427
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 2: It's like that is something that can maintain throughout the

1428
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 2: hardship and show you that things are not awful all

1429
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 2: the time. I mean, you know, like there's so much

1430
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 2: terrible things going on right now, and it's fun. It's

1431
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 2: nice to feel life. It's nice to feel when like

1432
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:37,640
Speaker 2: your existence is a little bit lighter, you know, And

1433
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 2: I feel like this movie accomplishes that. I love Local Hero. Yeah, Okay.

1434
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 2: Number three, what's a movie that makes me? What's a

1435
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 2: movie that will make me poop my pants? Not that

1436
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 2: I actually want to now, I don't really there's no

1437
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 2: context for this question. What's a movie that will make

1438
01:23:57,000 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 2: you poop your pants? Millie? Okay?

1439
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:04,160
Speaker 1: So this is this movie is at the absolute opposite

1440
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 1: of the movie that I just recommended. I would say,

1441
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 1: in every single way, I was taking this this question

1442
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 1: to mean, what is like a movie? What is one

1443
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 1: of the most disturbing movies I've ever seen in my

1444
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:24,559
Speaker 1: entire life, to the point where it made me feel

1445
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 1: physically ill? And I dare I dare I say that?

1446
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 1: I don't even know if I recommend anybody watching this movie.

1447
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it to answer the question. Right. It

1448
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 1: was this documentary from two thousand and seven.

1449
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 2: Oh god, a documentary called Zoo.

1450
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 4: I know Zoo?

1451
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 2: You know Zoo?

1452
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 4: Right?

1453
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 1: I know. I don't recommend anybody watched this. I mean, honestly,

1454
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 1: I feel okay. It's a very, very very complicated documentary

1455
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 1: because it's essentially about beast reality. But it's done in

1456
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 1: this very the presentation of it is very artistic. I

1457
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 1: guess this is the best way to put it. It's

1458
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 1: like a tasteful It's basically like an attempt at making

1459
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:18,400
Speaker 1: an artistic, tasteful documentary about this extremely taboo subject, right.

1460
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:23,840
Speaker 1: And I was in my shithead phase when I watched it,

1461
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 1: because I totally totally had heard about it forever and

1462
01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 1: me and April Richard said, and a bunch of my

1463
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 1: friends watched it. It was like so unsettling and disturbing

1464
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 1: that I felt gross, Like I felt disgusting watching it.

1465
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I felt like I was gonna pukes, well

1466
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 1: and not shit my pants coming out the other end.

1467
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I don't, I feel like I'm

1468
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:48,680
Speaker 1: going to vomit? Like it just was not. It just

1469
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 1: was so too much that I was just like, you know,

1470
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:55,559
Speaker 1: I mean, if I if I scope out and think

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01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 1: about what a filmmaker would like, a filmmaker who is

1472
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:02,160
Speaker 1: trying to do something like that, like trying to take

1473
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:10,919
Speaker 1: this extremely macabre subject material and like making something artistic

1474
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:13,800
Speaker 1: out of it, that in and of itself is an

1475
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 1: interesting kind of thought experiment.

1476
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 2: But I just felt like it was I could not

1477
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 2: too much, too much. I've never seen it, wow, And

1478
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 2: I don't think I.

1479
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:22,760
Speaker 3: Will see it.

1480
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, I don't want to. I

1481
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 1: don't want to tell people not to see it in

1482
01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 1: the sense that like you should watch the things that

1483
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 1: you are curious about, right, But well, I would never

1484
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:34,679
Speaker 1: watch this again, like I would never watch it again.

1485
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 1: But that to answer your question, that is the answer.

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01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:42,439
Speaker 2: Does that make sense? Okay? Yeah, absolutely, My recommendation, not

1487
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:46,640
Speaker 2: even recommendation. Is a two thousand and six movie called Taxidermia.

1488
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:50,719
Speaker 2: It's a Hungarian film. It's like a three part movie

1489
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 2: about one family's throughout one family throughout the years, and

1490
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:59,519
Speaker 2: one part of the stories is this speed eater and

1491
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:03,320
Speaker 2: the Cold Old War, and the last chapter is about

1492
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 2: a modern day taxidermist. This is one of the most

1493
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 2: disturbing and disgusting movies I've ever seen. There's a lot

1494
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 2: of vomiting with the speed eating. There's a lot of

1495
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 2: body hord, body dismemberment, people getting eaten by cats. It's crazy,

1496
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 2: but it also feels sort of fantastical. It feels like

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Speaker 2: Amie kind of. So it is a wild movie and

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Speaker 2: buckle up. It's got one of the most shocking endings

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Speaker 2: of a movie I've ever seen. Wow, including Taxidermy.

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Speaker 1: Wow. So we both went kind of fucked up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah we did well. Thank you all for your questions

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Speaker 2: for film advice. I hope we helped everybody out there.

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Speaker 2: I think we did. Millie, it's time for employees picks.

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Speaker 2: What is your film recommendation based on the theme of

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01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 2: discussion today?

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna recommend I recommend something that's just so

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Speaker 1: fucking's stupid because I must, and this was a huge

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Speaker 1: thing for my childhood. So I'm going to recommend The

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Speaker 1: Little Mermaid. Wow, I'm gonna unexpected recommendation. And the only

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Speaker 1: reason why the Little Mermaid. So the Little Mermaid came

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Speaker 1: out in nineteen eighty nine. Okay, if you remember this,

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Speaker 1: you'll know exactly why I'm recommending it because there was

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Speaker 1: this I think I know I've been legend about how

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Speaker 1: there was a dick on the cover of the VHS

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Speaker 1: tape for The Little Mermaid. I remember this, well, yeah,

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01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 1: huge scandal. And I simply typed in the Little Mermaid

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01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:57,720
Speaker 1: penis into Google and immediately read it came up.

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Speaker 2: It was like I just found it.

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Speaker 1: Somebody's like I just found a cover of the old

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01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 1: the Rare Penis Tower VHS case, and I'm looking at it, going,

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01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 1: I can see why people think it's dick, but also

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Speaker 1: it doesn't look like a dick.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm saying? Like, yes, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: But also I believe in that movie there's a part

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Speaker 2: where a priest gets a boner. Do you remember this

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Speaker 2: part about the Little Mermaid?

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Speaker 1: Is this the same one? No, I'm thinking of Aladdin

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01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 1: where it's that young teenagers take off all your clothes whispering.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's sort of a similar thing. But there's a

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Speaker 2: part where somebody gets a boner.

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Speaker 1: Yes, because there's a YouTube clip of it that I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Little Mermaid erection. I'm looking around. Yeah, yeah, and

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Speaker 2: you do see. I mean it looks like this priest

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01:29:51,320 --> 01:30:00,879
Speaker 2: gets a boner. And I remember Watson, I remember rewind

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Speaker 2: me and my friends trying to find that and finding

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Speaker 2: it on a VHS stack. This one is more damning

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01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:13,200
Speaker 2: I would say that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my god, that just doubles down my recommendation to

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01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:23,040
Speaker 1: watch a little the Little Raid. I fucking can't believe

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01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 1: that this is a three second loot YouTube clip that

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01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:36,559
Speaker 1: you can just watch, so that that's my recommendation. Nineteen

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01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:40,320
Speaker 1: eighty nine is The Little Mermaid for obviously several reasons.

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Speaker 2: Now, I think there was also in Lion King when

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01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:46,080
Speaker 2: like Simba hits some dust and it spells sex.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that was okay, that was the other one I

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01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 1: was thinking of. So there was like the Triumvirate, there

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01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:55,120
Speaker 1: was the Little Mermaid, Dick Aladdin, young teenagers take off

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01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 1: your clothes, and then the sex cloud in Lion King.

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Speaker 2: Yes, wow, mighty Triumvirate. Very good. I'm going in a

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01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:07,680
Speaker 2: slightly different direction and I'm recommending a twenty twenty one

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01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:12,719
Speaker 2: film called Sensor and it is set in nineteen eighty

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01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 2: five and the main character works for the British Board

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01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:20,840
Speaker 2: of Film Classification during the height of the video Nasty controversy. Now,

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01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:24,360
Speaker 2: the video Nasty controversy was like a lot of censorship

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01:31:24,600 --> 01:31:28,400
Speaker 2: of low budget horror and exploitation films in the UK

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01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:33,840
Speaker 2: distributed on VHS tapes in the early eighties. And this

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01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:37,000
Speaker 2: movie is a really good, I thought horror, kind of

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01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:39,439
Speaker 2: vibey horror movie, but it also kind of explores that

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01:31:39,680 --> 01:31:42,759
Speaker 2: time and what was going on with the video nasties

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01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:47,120
Speaker 2: and sort of VHS culture and subculture. So I thought

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Speaker 2: it was a really fun movie from twenty twenty one

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Speaker 2: Censor Sins by the director Prano Bailey Bond, and they

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01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:56,760
Speaker 2: wrote and directed it, and I thought it was really good.

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Speaker 1: Great, that sounds amazing.

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Speaker 2: Right, Oh my goodness, Millie, we're all done, thank god?

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01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:09,800
Speaker 1: Oh thank god? What an episode. Yes, indeed, I am

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Speaker 1: still rewinding tapes as we speak.

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Speaker 2: Yes, if you want.

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Speaker 1: Some film advice from us, that is, if you want

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01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:22,080
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01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:26,080
Speaker 1: a voicemail these kinds of things, please email us at

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01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:30,479
Speaker 1: Deermovies at exactlyrightmedia dot com. Like I said, we'd love

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01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:35,840
Speaker 1: a film gripe. Where are those film gripes? Also, again,

1575
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:38,519
Speaker 1: if you want to leave a voicemail, all you gotta

1576
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:40,920
Speaker 1: do is just record it on your phone, make sure

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01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:44,599
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01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:46,920
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01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:50,800
Speaker 2: That's correct. You can follow us on our socials at

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01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:53,519
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1582
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:02,240
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1584
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:06,320
Speaker 2: your podcasts.

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01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:10,120
Speaker 1: Oh my god, next week's episode. I feel like it's

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01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:12,840
Speaker 1: a bit of an anniversary. Maybe, is that true.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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01:33:14,479 --> 01:33:17,240
Speaker 1: Okay, it feels well, anytime I watch this movie, it

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Speaker 1: feels like someone's anniversary.

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Speaker 2: We're coming upon the thirtieth anniversary.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So next week we're coming upon an anniversary of

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Speaker 1: a very important film.

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Speaker 2: A VHS classic. I would say, maybe for you.

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Speaker 1: I saw it on television on Showtime.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: But it is a movie that has delighted, polarized, scandalized, aroused, aroused,

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Speaker 1: certainly made people want to have sex and pools. It's

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Speaker 1: the movie show Girls from nineteen ninety five, directed by

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Speaker 1: Paul Rohovean. We're going to just go super.

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Speaker 2: Hard on it. The theme is Showgirls. Yeah, the movie.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about it. It's all of its implications,

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Speaker 1: all of its isms. We might get into the filmography

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Speaker 1: of Verhoven, just you know, placing this movie upon his

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01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:16,160
Speaker 1: other masterpieces. But I do think it's worth just like

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Speaker 1: talking about only because it is thirty years old. It

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01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:21,679
Speaker 1: would be interesting to compare and contrast this to stuff

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Speaker 1: that is happening like now, like things that are out

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01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 1: now and sort of like, I don't know the persistence

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Speaker 1: of this film over the years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, super interesting, a lot too unback. I can't wait

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Speaker 2: to talk about it, and I can't wait to watch this.

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Speaker 1: I watch it annually. Maybe it's playing actually at the

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Speaker 1: REP Theater in my town very soon.

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Speaker 2: Wow. So fabulous, Yeah, wonderful. Well that's all we got, Millie,

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Speaker 2: I can give no more.

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Speaker 1: Well, I will say I enjoyed this episode. I think

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Speaker 1: you are wickedly talented, and I was really excited to

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Speaker 1: hear about all of your VHS classic picks.

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Speaker 2: So me too. To you, Millie, You're also wickedly talented.

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Speaker 2: Say it next, Rake.

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Speaker 1: This has been an exactly right production, hosted by Me

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Speaker 1: Milli to Cherico and produced by my co host Casey O'Brien.

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Speaker 2: This episode was mixed by Tom Bryfogel. Our associate producer

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01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:32,200
Speaker 2: is Christina Chamberlain, our guest booker is Patrick Cottner, and

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01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:34,160
Speaker 2: our artwork is by Vanessa Lilac.

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Speaker 1: Our incredible theme music is by the best band in

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Speaker 1: the entire world, The Softies.

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Speaker 2: Thank you to our executive producers Karen Kilgareff, Georgia hart Stark,

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01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 2: Daniel Kramer and Millie to Jericho. We love you.

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Speaker 1: Goodbye, Beker