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Speaker 1: You know, Jason probably knows exactly. Yeah, of course, yeah,

426
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 1: you know, and because you know, you gotta be reminded

427
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 1: that it's their exhibition fights. Guys. You know, we don't

428
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 1: want to want to go home jacked up. But you know,

429
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 1: Marines are Marines were extremely competitive. If you hit me hard,

430
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be a dude watch out. You know,

431
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 1: it's gonna be okay, that's how you want to play it.

432
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 1: And I know George Klein's very well and I'll be honest,

433
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, George knows one speed. Georginals one speed

434
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 1: and that's with anything. Hey, it's apparent as with as

435
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 1: with eating food, getting a haircut, getting into a fight. Girls,

436
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 1: he knows one speed. But at the end of the day,

437
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: I watched the fight and it wasn't like it wasn't

438
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 1: like he was trying to take advantage. It happened to be.

439
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 1: You know, in exchange you got quote George's heavy hands

440
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 1: quote and was shot on the on the button and

441
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 1: then that was it. Awesome, awesome brother. So while you

442
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 1: were over there, talk to me about the experience between

443
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 1: the S A S and our boys, you know, the camaraderie,

444
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 1: the you know, because they're very very accommodating. Last time

445
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 1: I was there and you know, I just got I

446
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 1: just want to speak on that, how extremely professional, courteous

447
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:54,919
Speaker 1: and considerate. These gentlemen are absolutely a second that. Um,

448
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 1: you know, the whole event, I mean, the whole event

449
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: evolved this year to a sect to another point, not

450
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: not the camaraderie, because the camaraderie was the last year

451
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: between you know, it was mutual between between us, and

452
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: they were very forthcoming with the hospitality. I mean they

453
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: you know, They weren't asked us to stay longer, offering

454
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 1: us places to stay, wanting to show us around, taking

455
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 1: us out. You know, we didn't have to pay for anything.

456
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: We're going out. They wanted to treat us and uh gentlemen,

457
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 1: total gentlemen, and uh they have a lot of respect

458
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 1: just like we do for them, they have have the

459
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 1: same respect for us. It was it was a great experience.

460
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: They're gonna have, you know, friends for life and mr venue.

461
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 1: So it was a bigger turnout, is what you're saying.

462
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: I would just it evolved. It was just all around.

463
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,719
Speaker 1: It evolved. I believe it was around the same turnout

464
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: because we had last shows the set out as well.

465
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 1: So I'm not sure exactly how money holds a thousand

466
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 1: between a thousands hundred people in the place. Yeah, that's

467
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 1: next year. They're definitely gonna need your bigger venue. Yeah,

468
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: I was definitely sold out. Um, the actual post the

469
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 1: videos almost at two hundred thousand views. That's pretty impressive,

470
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: you know, considering Yeah, it was only a couple of

471
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: days ago, and even that day it was it was

472
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: quite a bit. So we're definitely catching way for the

473
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: cause and for the event. Um, I want to see

474
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 1: next year because at some point I have a feeling

475
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: the British organization, organizers of the event or the charity

476
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 1: are gonna say, you know what, we had marines versus

477
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 1: s A. Yes, this year, We're gonna have to cool it.

478
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: Next year. Let's get some rangers of some army, because

479
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So we need to start

480
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 1: thinking about that now, you know what I mean, because

481
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 1: we might get cut off. They might cut you guys

482
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 1: off at the bar, right they they might exactly, they

483
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: may want us to come over there and train them.

484
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 1: Oh do do? I saw Brandon this morning and and

485
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: he said like there was a little bit of animosity

486
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: and at how well that our guys did. Is that true? Uh? Yeah,

487
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: I mean I was, I was watching me, I was

488
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: watching the live event. I'm not sure someone I was.

489
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 1: I would definitely expect a little it from s AS side,

490
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 1: but I saw from the fans side. Um, any time

491
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: we get something good, I mean, they're they're just talking

492
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: about how much better we are, how much more you know,

493
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 1: more experience, and much younger we are. But you know, listen,

494
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,239
Speaker 1: we be keeping shape and it's not and it's not

495
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: our fault. So to say, it's not our fault that

496
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 1: we rise to the occasion. When we're asked to do something,

497
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: we do it, and you'll start seeing, you know, traditionally

498
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: speaking more and more Marines are the ones in these

499
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: type types of events. You know, we don't We really

500
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: don't care to get punched in the face, you know

501
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: what I mean. It ain't no big deal for us.

502
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, we fight every day. So

503
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 1: what I want to see is I want to see involvement,

504
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: and I'm sure everyone else does out there too. I

505
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: want to see more involvement from the other communities. What's

506
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: up hopefully next year, you know, Remembers Rumble three, we

507
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: can see some some some love from Rangers or something.

508
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: Let's just kick ass team together. Yeah, we can maybe

509
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 1: put together an intan borod tournament into military tournament veterans

510
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: and come up with the team from that. It's a

511
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 1: cool idea, man um. Before we wrap up here, I'm wondering,

512
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 1: you know, actually, for both of you guys being over there.

513
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: You know you went last year, Jason, what's like the

514
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,199
Speaker 1: difference in attitude between Veterans Day in the US and

515
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: Remembrance Day in the UK. Like the atmosphere, how how

516
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 1: the people speak with both of you are just wondering

517
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: because I've never been over there. Um, from my point

518
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: of view, it is damn near. The entire township of

519
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: London celebrates Remembrance Day. I think there are not many

520
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 1: that would dare not wear that poppy on their lapel

521
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: am I right? John? Did it seem like it was?

522
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,959
Speaker 1: It was like everybody involved in it and appreciating their

523
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 1: veterans and you know the people they lost. You know what, Jason,

524
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: you're taking a was that. I'm out because I get

525
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: goose bumps when I talked to the civilians over there

526
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: and they tell us how much they appreciate us. You

527
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 1: don't get that in America no more. For the most part,

528
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: it's a widespread in the media. You know, um, the

529
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: whole city for national anthem and how it's not against military,

530
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: but you know, at the end of the day, that's

531
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: what we fight for. And uh, you know they they

532
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: live for that, I mean, and they live for their

533
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 1: for their armed services. They really it's a very they

534
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: were very emotional civilians of that. I got emotional. I

535
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: got emotional when they all started chanting the same song

536
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: in the arena and you're talking about I don't know

537
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: how many people fit in that arena, your call, but

538
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: it's a lot and a lot of these individuals don't

539
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: know each other, but the songs they chat in unison,

540
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: this is like a part of their tradition. You can

541
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: tell they're they're doing this since they were children. We

542
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: don't have that anymore, you know, and we're just divided.

543
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: We're a nation divided right now, unfortunately, where we're the

544
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: ones who pay the costs. But over there, they still remember,

545
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: you know, they still remember the ones that came before them.

546
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: So hey, John, thank you so much, brother, and thank

547
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: you for constantly stepping up to the plate. Keep it up. Man.

548
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: You're you're definitely you're definitely the guy I called the

549
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: team captain over here. All right, problem a great night YouTube.

550
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on. And before you go, are you

551
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: on Twitter, Instagram, anything you're promoting? Um, you do a

552
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: lot of things. Come on, throw it out there. Let

553
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: the people know when it comes to you. Now, the

554
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: Fighting Marine, miss it. Let's just check out the Fighting Marine. Alright, alright, alright, alright,

555
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: that works, man. We gotta have you in here in

556
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: studio sometime. I know you're in Jersey. Absolutely, work in

557
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: the city. Every day he works in the city. Let's

558
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: do it. Let's happy and maybe next month or something.

559
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: And I also I also send you a message via

560
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: Instagram you were in London, but a happy belated birthday

561
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: that dog simplify sympathy. Thank you, Man lay So joining

562
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: us as well for the first time on SOFTWAREP Radio.

563
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: Joel Ortega, former Marine Scott sniper and you're currently in

564
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: Puerto Rico as we speak. Before I hand it over

565
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: to Jason to get into everything. And it's an honor

566
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: to speak to you. Uh, not to put too much

567
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: pressure on you, man, but this is episode three hundreds,

568
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: so hopefully this will be an epic one. All right,

569
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: thanks for having me in the show absolutely, brother, brother, brother,

570
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: do me a favor. Can we go through a little resume,

571
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: a little bio. Can you explain to these this younger

572
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: generation of snipers who you are and where you came

573
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: from and how you came up. Yeah, well, Joel Ortega

574
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: originally from San Juan, you know, in Puerto Rico, joining

575
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: ninety four. Uh, it's an infantryman splaining about year and

576
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: a half with to six second Battalion six Marines right

577
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: there at Campbell June. Uh. About a year and a

578
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: half later to the DUC and uh you know joined

579
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: the staple tune, I went to school, you know, became

580
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: sniper all the stuff, and ten years so it wasn't

581
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: instructor at the Second Marine Division school, uh from ninety

582
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: nine to two thousand one. Um, you know, so that's

583
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: that's Second Marine to clarify, that Second Marine Division Scout

584
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: sniper school. That's like the MS producing school what we

585
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: called the beef coach, you know. So and um, just

586
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: just a little a little uh touching on after life

587
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: after the military. Did you do any contracting work or

588
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: any uh courses or the training. No, we'll not contracting.

589
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: Uh some classes here and there. Uh, you know, helped

590
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: up some friends with companies and stuff like that, brought

591
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: people down here to Puerto Rico, like you know, Caldiford,

592
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: Northern Red Day, did things, Ka Tonspooner, all those guys.

593
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: Major guys. But now what's that Those are major guys

594
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: by the way, major major guys. Yeah, yeah they are,

595
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: they are. They are pretty much the rock stars with

596
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: the scene right now, you know. Uh, but no, not

597
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: contracting and you know, just doing woodwork and stuff down here.

598
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: That's what I've been doing since I got out. So

599
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: so you guys know, Joel is um constructing a bar.

600
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: He's about to open it up. It looks down here amazing.

601
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: He does his own woodwork. He's a carpenter, right so

602
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: um he helped me out in Puerto Rico. I went

603
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: down there to go check on my grandparents, and he

604
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: hit me up and was like, brother, I know you

605
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: you're you know, you know you're coming out here. I

606
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: see your post. You know, if you need anything, hit

607
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: me up, and you know, I was like, yeah, I

608
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: might need a ride from the airport. He was Johnny

609
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: on the spot, showed up vehicle through our bags and

610
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: took us to our grandmother's house. Like, honestly, that's true

611
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: brotherhood right there. Man. That being said, when when I

612
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: went into his bar, when we went up to his

613
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: area to check him out how he lives. You know,

614
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: we went up to his bar. He has his picture

615
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: of Chuck Moheeney signed on the on the wall. And

616
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: if you guys, I don't know, Chuck Moheeney is like

617
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: our of our biggest legends in the community, you know.

618
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: Right there, you know, I would say a little bit

619
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: reference to me. You know, I'll probably get killed for this,

620
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: but to me, I actually admire him a bit more

621
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,479
Speaker 1: than you know, some that would be exalted above you know,

622
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: many scott Snipers out there, so um, Chuck Morhen, he

623
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: is definitely the man. I think he's got the He

624
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: had the most confirmed kills in Vietnam. Correct, Yeah, he

625
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: was top guy in Vietnam? Are you hinting it that? Like?

626
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: For him? It's him and then Carlos Hathcock or something,

627
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: you know, I say, you know, if you want to say,

628
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. The thing about moheney Man

629
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: is that nobody knew about him exactly the late nineties.

630
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: You know, everybody knew about hot Cock, you know ever

631
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: since you know he got out of Vietnam and started

632
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: the program in but no one knew about this old guy,

633
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: you know, until ninety nine. I believe it was when

634
00:33:55,440 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: he came out respect pretty much has he respected a

635
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: little bit more as like a quiet professional that whole exactly.

636
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: It's one of those things where the community kind of

637
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: exalted him. You know, the community decided, you know, why

638
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: the hell are we not telling your story? You know,

639
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: vice this one because it deserves to be told, I

640
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: think you're a badass individual. And in Sniper School, we

641
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: honor him by giving the high Shooter Award, which we

642
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: call the Chuck Moheney High Shooter Award, to the individual

643
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: who scored the highest on the on the on the

644
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: range portion of Sniper School, which is an extreme honor,

645
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: you know. And to even have that, uh, have that

646
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: accolade named after you, that's amazing. That's how much we really,

647
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 1: uh you know, praise this guy. Um. So I'm thinking

648
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: straight out the gate, if I was to roll up

649
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: to Puerto Rico and I just happened to stumble into

650
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: your bar and I see this picture of Chuck Moheney

651
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: on the wall, how crazy would that? It would just

652
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: blow my mind because I didn't even I thought I was, like,

653
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: you know, one of like maybe two Puerto Rican Scott

654
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: snipers in the world, you know, but you know, here

655
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 1: you are waving the F I proudly I thought that

656
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: was about the freakiest thing in the world for me.

657
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: But what I thought was more interesting was when I

658
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: asked you how the hell did you get his signature?

659
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: And the story you told McKay you tell me that

660
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: story again, Yeah, of course. Man back at ninety nine,

661
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: I was just graduating and get fans force in Quantico

662
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: and then he was the guest speaker. So they told us, hey,

663
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: Chuck Money is coming today. He's gonna be the guest

664
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: speaker for you guys graduation. So we're like cool. Uh

665
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 1: that day we were on the barracks as we're walking

666
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: back to the schoolhouse. Uh, the instructor had she's got

667
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: a number. It's got like a keypad. You got a

668
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: punch in the number. Door opens you going. So the

669
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: door opens outwards, so I'm going in. I punching the

670
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 1: number to go inside, you know what the instructors are at,

671
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 1: and I'm pulling on the doorknob outwards. But I can

672
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: feel someone like trying to open the door inwards. You know.

673
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: I janked on the door, and you know, jank the

674
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: door open. I see a body flying out, which is

675
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: the other guy whole then the adorn up on the

676
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,439
Speaker 1: inside and it's a little skinny guy. When I look

677
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: at that, you know, the guy that just flew out,

678
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: it was chuckin and I was saying about and he

679
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I'm sorry, and I'm like, no, the

680
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: one that's sorry you know, and he was like, are

681
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: you one of the instructors or one of the guys

682
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: graduating today? And I was like yeah. So he was

683
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: like hey, yeah. You know, from inside, he had like,

684
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: you know, one of these like Sam's Night Leather briefcaste

685
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: or whatever. So we go inside the instructor area. He

686
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: opens it up and pulls out a picture. So I'm like,

687
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: holy crap, he's gonna get me a picture, you know,

688
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,240
Speaker 1: the picture that we see everywhere in schoolhouses or books

689
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: or whatever. He had it right. So he pulls it

690
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: out and he turns around and he's like, what's your name?

691
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm still in shock, you know, I'm like,

692
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: my name is starting Ortega. He goes down, you know,

693
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: he bends over to the over to the desk and

694
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: he starts writing like simplified, this isn't bad. Then he

695
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 1: turns around again. He's like, no, it's your name, and

696
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, my name is Joel. So he wrote it down.

697
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 1: He wrote, you know, Joel on the picture, turns around,

698
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: get it back to me, you know, And that's that's

699
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: pretty much the story right here. Dude. That's amazing story.

700
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 1: I wish I had a story was a legend like that. Um,

701
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: speaking of which you have another story of a legend

702
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: you know, um that I really didn't know much of.

703
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: Can you kind of let us know who masses are?

704
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: Neil Morris? It was and is um. I thought it

705
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: was pretty interesting the story you told me. As far

706
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: as his position in the Marine Corps, Yeah, Neil Morrishman

707
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: the reason why like a lot of people don't know

708
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: about him, you know, uh and like you know, the

709
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: newer guys, the newer generation of Scoff's nine percent Marine

710
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: cors because you know, to me and a lot of people,

711
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: that guy right there is the epit of me of

712
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: what a silent professional is you know. But this guy

713
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: right here manque you know story and the guy he

714
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: pretty much wrote the curriculum, you know, for pretty much

715
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: all the schools we have in the bancor or or

716
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: at least in our time frame. Um. You know Scott

717
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: Sniper basic course, the urban one, because he was the

718
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: head guy for special uh you know, Mission French for

719
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: st a Special Operations training group and he was also

720
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: the one that created they had done scores and these

721
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: guys the only you know marine also that was the

722
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: Stephen c Oi c for all three schools. You know,

723
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: he was Stephen co Oc for Pendualti School, then Quantico

724
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: and the last one was you know the second Marine

725
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: Division at a Stone Bay. And anyway, he retired like

726
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: after twenty six years in two thousand and one of

727
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 1: the Masters organ And at the time when he retired,

728
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: he was he was one of the biggest advocates for

729
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: the uh Scoff Sniper Company. The thing that they have

730
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: in a stack handled on this you know, they are stack. Yeah,

731
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: he was the guy talking about that like back in

732
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: the mid nineties. You know. That's that's how I head

733
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: up his time, this this guy I was and uh funnyway,

734
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 1: he was always talking about, you know, the Scott Sniper

735
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: Company at the petition level. And so following his dream,

736
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: like towards the end of his career, they pretty much

737
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: created a position called the Master Sniper, you know, the

738
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: Marine Corps Master Sniper. Any it was pretty much the

739
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: senior scout sniper the Marine Corps, you know, and his

740
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 1: old purpose was like to oversee the whole like training

741
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: program and you know, the whole Scoff sniper program in

742
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: the Marine Corps. But that that's that's as far as

743
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: that you know that he never saw the company even

744
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: though that's what he wanted and and pretty much he

745
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 1: outered that. But so that's that's pretty much it right

746
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: there for him. I've I've never I didn't know that

747
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 1: there was such a billet as a Master Sniper billet

748
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: in the Marine Corps until he told the story, Billy,

749
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't hear it. I didn't hear

750
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: of it, and I or should I say, when I

751
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: was teaching an s ot G and then you know,

752
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: subsequently later on in marsoc Um when we transition, Um,

753
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: I didn't have to deal with anybody that was in

754
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: that billet master sniper billet for like you know, I

755
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: don't know coming down for curriculum review anything. I mean,

756
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: we had we had guys that were, you know, legends

757
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: within the community, like the Vein you remember him. Um,

758
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 1: you know, those guys will always be at the forefront

759
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: of trying to push new doctrine or trying to square

760
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: away issues that we had within the community. But I

761
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: didn't know there was an actual Master Sniper billet. And

762
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: you know, this guy was obviously the first one to

763
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 1: hold it. I'm not sure they even continue it you know,

764
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: all I know is that I thought that was interesting

765
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: historical little fact that I kind of want to you know,

766
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: put on air and that people remember, you know, knowing. Yeah, yeah,

767
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,439
Speaker 1: Like I said, man, that's pretty much when the whole

768
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 1: talk about the Sniper Company came about. And this is

769
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: this is laid back in last time I heard, you know,

770
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: what I was saying conversations or you know, even mentioned

771
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 1: in the Scuff Sniper Company was like a ninety nine

772
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: two thousand time frame, you know, he got on two

773
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: thousand one, and he wanted to do that. So what

774
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: are you like, what are you That's as far as

775
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: said Dad, what are your thoughts on on the our

776
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: stack on on the Regimental Surveying Target Acquisition Company. I

777
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 1: haven't read too much about it, man, but I think

778
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: it's good. I think if they can do it like

779
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,280
Speaker 1: what Morris wanted to do at the time. He didn't

780
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: want it as the regimental level. He wanted to do

781
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: that thing as a division level, you know, like a

782
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: division scuff sniper company. And you know at the time

783
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 1: when when when he talked about it, and and and

784
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,919
Speaker 1: and it was like you know, rumors going around about

785
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: this company and stuff. It was. It seemed like a

786
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: good idea, man, because it's like, yeah, the training will

787
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: be the same for everyone. You know, the money, maybe

788
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: you can stay in the community longer. Yeah, you know,

789
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: because you know how it was in our time when

790
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 1: you hit steps forward and already year out, that's still

791
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: a huge problem. Just to spend you up on the problem,

792
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: just to spend you up on what they have. I

793
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 1: think they wanted to outfit uh four platoons for the regiment, right,

794
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: and then uh, those four platoons were active will be

795
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: active sniper platoons, and then there'll be a fifth platoon

796
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:41,479
Speaker 1: which is a training cadre, and the training cadre would

797
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: be senior sniper senior hogs in charge of the training

798
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: and the indoctrination process for the company. And obviously you

799
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: have headquarters elements, stuff like that, um as the stats. Now,

800
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: I think my last the last word I received was

801
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,439
Speaker 1: that they only have two platoons stood up and that

802
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: when they send out it for in doctrination, it's it's

803
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: a regimental wide uh Fifth Marines wide call where they'll

804
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: you know, pull the best from the different battalions and

805
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: you know, kind of run the indoctrination Um. That being

806
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: said that, the issue is that now you have, instead

807
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: of three quotas going to a battalion, four quarters going

808
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: to theion too going to another now you have all

809
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: the quotas going to our stack. And the issue with

810
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 1: that not a huge issue. It's just that there's gonna

811
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 1: be a tremendous amount of marines within this company. So

812
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: not all of them, AND's be honest, not all of

813
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 1: them are going to be able to get to sniper

814
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 1: school unless something happens within the program in and of itself,

815
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: which they're there. You know, some people are kicking around

816
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: ideas of making maybe you know, just one primary sniper

817
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: school and running more courses UH concurrently, you know, so

818
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: that way they could put pipeline more guys through the

819
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: actual UH sniper course. And I think that's good. I

820
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 1: don't think everybody doesn't need to go to sniper school,

821
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: you know, and and and and you know, like I mean,

822
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: back in this man, I never saw a Scott sniper

823
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: platoon where everyone was, yeah, it's not gonna happen. And

824
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: you have guys that they're good at communications, they go

825
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: to communications schools, they go to older schools, you know,

826
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: and you need that so, and that's and that's what

827
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: they said. If they run in something like similar to

828
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: the reconnaissance community, not everyone's going to get to jump,

829
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: Not everyone's gonna get to dive, not ever. You know,

830
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: it's just a matter of who you are within that

831
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: union and how important of an asset you become. Yeah,

832
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: and it's good that you mentioned the end because I

833
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: tell you something about that and I saw this when

834
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: I wasn't instructor of school. Uh. The thing the good

835
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 1: thing about the company you know, our stack or you

836
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: know division company that ever happens that way, is that

837
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: everybody's going to go to the same pipeline. You know,

838
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: when I was in instructor of school, you had guys

839
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: that that you asked around and like hey, I mean,

840
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: like are you guys doing for them? We run a

841
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: one week end up, I know the battalion. It's like

842
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: we haven't one you know another one? It's like we

843
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: have a wee can happened that? And it's like, you

844
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: know what's going on? Boy? Can everybody be the same

845
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: the same, the same as across the board for the

846
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: training where should I say s OPS the standing operating procedures,

847
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: that's another thing too, because it's a hot bag of

848
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: skittles by the time it's coming from the different the

849
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: multitudes of battalions, and then you consolidate them all into

850
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: school and it's like, okay, so I guess that is

851
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: a great I agree with you, that's a great thing. Um.

852
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 1: As far as the retention, that is still an issue,

853
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: and it's still remain an issue. Do you know that obviously?

854
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: You know, um, the intention in changing the MOS to oh,

855
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: three seventeen from one or in which they push that

856
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: initiative was basically claiming that it would become eventually a

857
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: primary MOS. Right you heard this before? Yeah, you know,

858
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: that's when I went to plant and ten they already

859
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: changed the ms, and that's that's when I that And

860
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 1: you know, I asked and I was say, hey, what

861
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: why they change you know, th seventeen you know from one,

862
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: And they were like, well, they're gonna try to make

863
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 1: it and uh, you know, primary ms. But but but

864
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,760
Speaker 1: you know, it hasn't happened yet. You know, it hasn't happened,

865
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: and that I don't know why they even changed the

866
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: numbers around. If there's no difference, it is still considered

867
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: a billeted or secondary MOS um or a billeted at MS.

868
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: So guys are still getting promoted off of the field

869
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: of the primary MOS. More so, the important thing is,

870
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 1: as you say, within this new company, we're losing all

871
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: the senior guys once they hit staff n c O

872
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: to their monitors. And now these staff n c o

873
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: s are getting pushed into you know, other billets that

874
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 1: are you know, not within their specialized field, and vice versa.

875
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: As a double sword, we're also getting guys from security

876
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: forces and banger coming in to run these platoons having

877
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: a clue of what they're doing, and we have to

878
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: spin them up just as much as we have to

879
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: spin up a pig. Which a pig, for those guys

880
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: out there, is a professionally instructed gunman and a hog

881
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: is a hunter of gunmen. So the difference between a

882
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: pig and a hog was freaking everything if you ask

883
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: a sniper. But a pig is someone who is freshly

884
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: uh indoctrinated um recruit within the platoon and he has

885
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 1: to prove himself and then go to school and get

886
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: the MOS and he'll become a hog. So what do

887
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: you think we're what do you think about that The

888
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: whole retention issue in the Marine Corps, and you know

889
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: how it's kind of left a lot of our our

890
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: forces kind of like hung hung out to dry well.

891
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: When I got out, man, we kept numbers of school

892
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: like we hit numbers of school like, hey, how many

893
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: active you know pipers that we have right now? How

894
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: many are we enlisted? I remember one year, man, the

895
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: re enlistment you know, percentage for was zero, you know,

896
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: and and I'm one those guys right there. They came

897
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: time around for me to re enlist, you know, they

898
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: were like, hey, we need you to either do a

899
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: bi billy or go back to a line company. I

900
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: was like, no, I don't want to do that, you know,

901
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: I want to stay within the community. And I'm like,

902
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: I mean, look at all the schools that I've done,

903
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: they all have to do with this job right here,

904
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 1: and you want me, after you know, all these years,

905
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: to go back, you know, to a line company, you know,

906
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: a line unit or do a bi bility. And you

907
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,240
Speaker 1: know what the bibilities are, you know, they either draining,

908
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: structured or recruiters you know, MSG stuff like that. And

909
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: so one thing about this, the you know, retention and

910
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: the company and stuff like that. You know, all I

911
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,240
Speaker 1: see about this company is it's good for training wise,

912
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: for you know, unique cohesion obviously you have a bunch

913
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 1: of people now, uh, but for retention is that I'm

914
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 1: not really clear and base. You know, I've been out

915
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: for a while, but it seems to me that is

916
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: still the same problem. You know, it seems to me

917
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: like it's a company. I mean, how many he takes us?

918
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: Can you have in a company? You know, maybe a

919
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: gun he's the one running in or whatever. But but

920
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: that's just that one guy. And you know, I think

921
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 1: that to happen in such a vital you know job

922
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,879
Speaker 1: as what we did. You know, Yeah, maybe we can

923
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: get attention to the to the to the cause, man.

924
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,720
Speaker 1: But the truth is to to those younger, uh younger

925
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 1: members of the audience, guys that are thinking and you're

926
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: teetering on the line of what unit you want to

927
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: join within the Marine Corps UM, I'm gonna have to

928
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: say it as of now until they figure that out.

929
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: If you're looking to have a long career within specialized

930
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: in most or uh special operations like UM environment UM

931
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: reconnaissance is definitely gonna be the best way there. The

932
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: reconnaissance community. More so probably MARSOC because they're so calm,

933
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: and once you're so calm, you'll stay in so calm

934
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 1: so you can even operate as a matter. Sorry, And

935
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: if you want or up to that rank from what

936
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: I understand, um, I think, I think if you want

937
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: to stay within the community, Marshak is probably the best bet. Yeah,

938
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 1: if you want, yeah, the same thing subjected to the monitor. Yeah, exactly.

939
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 1: If you want to do you know, a specialized job

940
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 1: or whatever, and you want to you know, make it

941
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: a career path, then in the Marine Corps, MARSHA best

942
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 1: bet right now, Yep, that's definitely it. And same advice

943
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: I got for all the younger guys coming up or

944
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: even the guys within the Marine Corps. Now I'm thinking

945
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 1: about going to Scott Sniper. Remember you can go to

946
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: Scout Sniper School and become a hug in the reconnaissance

947
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: community and in Marsacco. So keep that in mind. Um.

948
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: But that being said, I don't want to take away

949
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: from the battalions. They need their Scout sniper assets. But

950
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 1: just keep in mind Marine Corps Headquarters, Marine Corps, you're

951
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,959
Speaker 1: doing the guys in extreme injustice by not following through

952
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 1: with the promise of making a three seventeen a primary mos. Okay,

953
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: that's where you're gonna always have your retention issues. You're

954
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: keeping guys and realisting, Um can we can we kind

955
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: of like transition into Puerto Rico, I kind of I

956
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: want to. I want to hear what what your initial

957
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: thoughts were a big beginning hurricane, you know, yeah, I

958
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 1: love there. And also because you know, Jason, you were

959
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: in Puerto Rico. But I'm assuming for Joel it's got

960
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 1: to be different to be, you know, living there. This

961
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: is where he calls his home. You get to come

962
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: back to New York. So yeah, yeah, well, uh to

963
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: start with men and and Jason, you were here and

964
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what you've seen in the Newseum, but

965
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: Hererican Maria it's been the worst natural disaster in Puerto

966
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: Rican history by far, you know, but it's it's it's

967
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: worse than Hugo George's you know, but it's been the worst.

968
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: I believe it is the first time that the whole

969
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: you know, island is like off the gride and in

970
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: power wise, I mean, you know, no power, no coming occations,

971
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:06,919
Speaker 1: no nothing. And it was like that for I would say,

972
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 1: communications wise, a few days, like I had no signal,

973
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 1: no nothing, landline, cell phone, like for about four days.

974
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: You know, after four or five days, in certain spots

975
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: you know, around the island you could get some signal,

976
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: you know, and and and that's about it right there.

977
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 1: When Jason came over, it was like about I don't know,

978
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: maybe four weeks after the hurrican Jason, Yeah, a little

979
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: bit something closer that. Yeah, something like that. It took

980
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 1: us a lot away. Yeah, it took us a lot

981
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 1: away from the airports to open up, to get tickets

982
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: out of decent price. It was just chaotic, right, Yeah.

983
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: What I'm trying to get that is after you know,

984
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: after four or five weeks, Uh, the whole island had

985
00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:04,280
Speaker 1: like maybe eighteen percent of power you know on like water, Uh,

986
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 1: communications like maybe thirty. But today, I mean today's November fourteen.

987
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 1: Right now, it's like there's tomorrow, there's a deadline. Tomorrow

988
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: is supposed to be power. But I don't know if

989
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: that's gonna be met. The governor saying yes, the guy

990
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: in charge of the power authority down here, he's saying yes.

991
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: But then you have the Army Corps of Engineers saying No,

992
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen, you know. So what's gonna happen

993
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 1: tomorrow for that deadline, I don't know. They're saying by

994
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: December fifteen, we're supposed to have ninety five Army Corps

995
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: of Engineers once again saying that will be achieved by

996
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: February marsh time. So they're being a little bit more realistic,

997
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: and I feel the governor and the head of the

998
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: power is being a little bit more political. Yeah, and

999
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: that that's what it is. That's what it is, you know.

1000
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: And then remember the governor, he goes by what he's

1001
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: being told, you know, So that's that's what he tells

1002
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: you know, the people. You know, do you think it

1003
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: maybe it's about putting some pressure on Washington to go

1004
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: do something. Say it again, and you think part of

1005
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: that is to put some pressure on here on Washington

1006
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: to get involved. Well, they've been trying. You know, he's

1007
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: been in Washington twice already. Um like, feel like down here,

1008
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,839
Speaker 1: communications starts our scars and you know, the TV and

1009
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: you know, uh so we don't really know much of

1010
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: of what's going on. Sometimes you know, you can sit

1011
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 1: on the newspaper, but he he's been going over there,

1012
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 1: and you know, and even when the President came over,

1013
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,439
Speaker 1: you know, he tried to you know, to get some help.

1014
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: But like, look, you know, like things happened faster for

1015
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: you know, Texas where sample with Harvey, for New Orleans

1016
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 1: and the for Katrina, you know, for Florida, for Airman,

1017
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 1: you know, and and like here we are and we

1018
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 1: need to help. But it feels i mean, without getting

1019
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: into politics, you know, so I don't like it too much.

1020
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, the process for Puerto Rico has been really, really,

1021
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 1: really slow. And I know that we have a you know,

1022
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 1: geographical situation because we're not attached by land by Conan,

1023
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 1: but be not still that I agree. I agree with

1024
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: you in the aspect that the communication could probably be

1025
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 1: ten times better if there was consideration of that very thing.

1026
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 1: I think people need to be informed a's to what's

1027
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: going on. For me, it's more when I went out there,

1028
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: it was more of a I'm being told something just

1029
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 1: to stay, just to be just to be silenced, you know.

1030
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,760
Speaker 1: It's it's it's nothing factual to what I'm being told,

1031
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 1: but it's just too you know, keep it was just

1032
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: it was just bits and pieces of information. You know,

1033
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: never something like really really concrete, you know, where you

1034
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: can like grasp and be like, okay, this is this now.

1035
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: It was like bits of information that you have to

1036
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 1: put together and kind of figure you know, what's going on.

1037
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,320
Speaker 1: You know, when you're you, when you have a family,

1038
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 1: when you have kids, you know, and everybody's asking you,

1039
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: you know, then you have to like travel these bits

1040
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: and pieces that you put together, you know, and like

1041
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: try to pass the information onto them. You know. It's

1042
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,720
Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to keep everything you know together

1043
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:46,240
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So, I mean it's getting better.

1044
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: It's a lot better than when you came over, Jason. Uh,

1045
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 1: you know pretty much it's like eighty percent water right now.

1046
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: I'm not really sure about the power. You know, they're

1047
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: saying fifty by tomorrow. I think we're close to that. Uh.

1048
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: Communications are better, obviously, I'm talking to you guys, so

1049
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: this this wouldn't be impossible. Um, And it's great that

1050
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 1: we have military personnel you know that we could talk

1051
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: to and connections over there and like get the reel

1052
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: on the ground story. Um, Joel, I gotta hear your

1053
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: take on when Jason was there on what's going on

1054
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 1: with the shipping situation, because all I know is Jason

1055
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: standing like he was ready to beat the ship out

1056
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: of someone at UPS. Yeah yeah, well yeah, and he

1057
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: went to that experience and like two days before it

1058
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 1: was me. The same thing happened to you. Yeah, yeah,

1059
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: It's like this is the thing when people were standing.

1060
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I got a you know, a bunch of

1061
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: brothers out there, you know, sending care packages, you know,

1062
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: like four or five, six, seven packages. The first one

1063
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: I got it six weeks after it was sent six weeks,

1064
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm I'm lucky because I got all

1065
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: my packages, but there's a lot of people that they didn't.

1066
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: I'm wondering what the reasons, you know, the way you

1067
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: made it. I'm wondering the reasoning though, because the way

1068
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: you made it sound, Jason like you think there's some

1069
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: politics involved. I definitely think there was politics above. Like

1070
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 1: I said, it's an illogical It's illogical for me to

1071
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: see franchises getting their mail, getting their supplies to continue

1072
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: selling product and making money, but individuals can't receive. I'm

1073
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: going to through how it is, and Jason knows this,

1074
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: but there was a lot of stealing too, you know.

1075
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say which ones, but there were you know,

1076
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: mail services were they were giving people open boxes with

1077
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: their stuff missing, you know, and stuff that never made it,

1078
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: you know, supposedly, you know, so I understand also there

1079
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: was some big, big overflow of you know, hagagess and

1080
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 1: mail coming a note and a person now. But you

1081
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 1: know it's it's also they added to when you go

1082
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: to the places, you know, there's yeah, they don't have

1083
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: that adapt and overcome mentality like whoever the and and

1084
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: you know what, this this is a big this is

1085
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: what this was a big lesson, a big route awakening

1086
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: for the leadership in Puerto Rico. Whether it's a business

1087
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,959
Speaker 1: or whether it's political. This was this I would give

1088
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 1: this situation and the way they responded to it and

1089
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: F and epic F because I I didn't see any

1090
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: leader taking the bull by the horns, adapting and overcoming

1091
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 1: to the situation and and being on the ground with

1092
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 1: their people and coming up with solutions and at least

1093
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: a form of communication where people can receive their messages

1094
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: or their their information um as what as far as

1095
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: um the disaster reliefs are concerned, you know, But what

1096
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: I did notice is a tremendous amount of money and

1097
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: supplies flooding the island. But the problem is these didn't

1098
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: continue to trickle down to those who needed it. That's

1099
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and that to me was an extreme

1100
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: lack of leadership or the reflective of an extreme lack

1101
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 1: of leadership. You're still there, Joe, Do we lose you? Man?

1102
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: We just we just talked about the community cations being good.

1103
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 1: It's like, uh, hopefully we still get there. We go

1104
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 1: all right, I'm surprised it happened so late in the game.

1105
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. But do you think we should leave

1106
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: that in there? I just I just like I said

1107
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: my last point um that I brought up and that

1108
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 1: I even want to deal with. It's just an extreme

1109
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: lack of leadership, is what happened. You know. Um, those

1110
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 1: who are a point it leaders or business leaders, they're

1111
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 1: they're really falling short on their responsibilities. And I think

1112
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 1: maybe we need to look at this or who we

1113
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:11,919
Speaker 1: appoint and see what the experience they have in these situations.

1114
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 1: And there's there's a lot of things that happened to

1115
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 1: not only would you know, regular male stuff, but I

1116
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 1: don't know if if some of this happened when you

1117
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 1: were down here. But like you know, some of some

1118
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 1: of the athletes from port Rico, you know, like Carlo

1119
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: felt Tran and you know Jaddie Molina, all those guys

1120
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: right there. They spend shipments down here, you know, with

1121
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: food supplies, all kind of stuff, and some of them

1122
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 1: disappear when they got down here. I believe it, and

1123
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 1: I had a buddy it did happen, you know, and

1124
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, you know, we send like two containers

1125
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 1: down there and one is missing, and like, how do

1126
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 1: you lose a fifty three food container? You know? Yeah,

1127
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 1: I had I had a buddy tell me. They collected

1128
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff, you know, generators, chainsaws and whatnot,

1129
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 1: and they had it on the flight line in an

1130
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 1: airport in North Carolina for you know. Ever. You know,

1131
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 1: it's been there for like four or five weeks at

1132
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: that point from when he told me, which makes sense

1133
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 1: because I was there about six weeks, four weeks after

1134
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 1: the fact, um four weeks after the fact, and he

1135
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 1: told me it was still there for about four weeks.

1136
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: And so everyone did their part, everyone over here in

1137
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 1: the US man everyone actually pulled together and collected in

1138
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 1: a tremendous, tremendous, tremendous amount of aid to send to

1139
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 1: Puerto Rico. Everyone did their part. Each individual out here

1140
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 1: did their part. Like he said, he had buddies do

1141
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: the same thing with care packages for him. I mean

1142
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 1: everyone did it. You know. You look at social media,

1143
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 1: it looked like everyone was involved, right, and we had

1144
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 1: truckloads of aid and supplies going out, but nothing was

1145
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 1: getting there, whether it was the and I think it was.

1146
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 1: And and and even if it was getting there, here's the

1147
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 1: crazy part. There was stuff that actually got there but

1148
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 1: wasn't offloaded, wasn't um consolidated, it wasn't vouchered. It was

1149
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 1: just they're rotting away on the tarmacs. So to me,

1150
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 1: it's just they shouldn't give it to you exactly now. Uh,

1151
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 1: But I mean people as being very supportive, man. You know,

1152
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 1: from all over all over the place, especially obviously you

1153
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 1: know the States, all the help done here. You know

1154
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 1: the military, you know the guys that they sent from

1155
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 1: the States, you know, different National gore units, Marines, you know, army,

1156
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 1: maybe everyone they're still down here and what they're doing

1157
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: many you know, it's like when I see him, man,

1158
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like back in the days, you

1159
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 1: know that the stuff they're doing, they're going down counter town,

1160
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 1: you know, delivering water. M R. Res. I can't believe

1161
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 1: some of the stuff that happens. Man. We had a

1162
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 1: mayor down here, one of the city mayors from Ka's

1163
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 1: one of the towns down here in Puerto Rico, and

1164
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 1: you know, the military was giving out m R. Res

1165
01:03:55,640 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 1: and he there to question the nutritional value. You you mean,

1166
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 1: you mean you have doubts that this meal that where

1167
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 1: one contains over two thousand calories, could uh, you know,

1168
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 1: nourish your patrons. Is that where you're concerned? Right? And

1169
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, you know, I only ate that

1170
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 1: for ten years. I mean, come on, man, do we

1171
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: know what this is? I don't know his name, don't

1172
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 1: remember his name, but you can look it up. And

1173
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if that's there's There was a lot of mayors,

1174
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 1: like the mayor of San Juan. She was another superstar.

1175
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 1: Um you know when it came to, you know, making

1176
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 1: hats and T shirts, you know, in the middle of power, Yeah,

1177
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Why are you making T shirts

1178
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 1: to push your political agenda? Shut up and get out

1179
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 1: to one of these small towns where kids are literally

1180
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 1: drinking dirty water off of a cliff side, you know,

1181
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 1: to try to you know, Andre, this is ridiculous. Who

1182
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 1: cares about your T shirt? You know? And and you

1183
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:07,479
Speaker 1: know it's just like I said, it's definitely I give

1184
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 1: it a plus to the people, A plus of the

1185
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 1: people in the United States, A plus of the people, uh,

1186
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 1: the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, and a plus to anyone

1187
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 1: that's supported and any other nations supported us through that

1188
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 1: hard time. But a dag on F and f F

1189
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 1: f F to all the leaderships involved, leadership involved in

1190
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,919
Speaker 1: Puerto Rico. Yeah, that's that's how it is. But yeah,

1191
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 1: like I said, man, you know that the people that's

1192
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 1: saying just phenomenal, you know, with with the with all

1193
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 1: the help, all the stuff that they gather, same done here.

1194
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 1: Uh you know power companies from Texas, from Florida. You

1195
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 1: know that they came down here. They brought their own trucks,

1196
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 1: you know, their own tools, their own everything. Yeah, I've

1197
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 1: seen them working here. You should. You should see some

1198
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 1: of the stuff I got in the mail from some

1199
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 1: of the brothers. Man. You know, like I got a

1200
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 1: sex phone. You know that what is that. And I'm

1201
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 1: like a satellite phone just like what I mean, like,

1202
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 1: how do they send you? How do they send you this?

1203
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 1: Because we love each other, man, let me tell you

1204
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 1: I'm right now because I'm like, you know the guy

1205
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 1: that sent me the sax phone, and he's like he

1206
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 1: was actually j D. Patents. He was like like like

1207
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 1: like we talked like two weeks after the hurricane, and

1208
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 1: he like he like chew me out. He was saying,

1209
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 1: a man like I haven't heard from you, like in

1210
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 1: two weeks, you know what's going on. And I'm like, well, dude,

1211
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 1: you know, we just got hit by the biggest hurrican

1212
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 1: Puerto Rican history, you know. And he's like, that's it.

1213
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 1: I'm sending you a sat phone. That's all right, dude,

1214
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. And And I didn't know Joel prior

1215
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 1: to the whole you know, soft wrap thing, and because

1216
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 1: he saw me, you know, I had a little presence

1217
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 1: online or whatever. I don't even know how you came

1218
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 1: across me, but he wrote to me on Instagram and

1219
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 1: we became, you know friends there. I mean, it's my brother.

1220
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 1: Once you tell me you're a hog, once you tell

1221
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 1: you tell me you're a marine. Scott Sniper to me

1222
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 1: is you know those who shared blood in the same

1223
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 1: mudel forever be my brothers, you know what I mean.

1224
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 1: And that's who he is. And from there it's a genuine,

1225
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 1: genuine love. And he picked me up and showed me

1226
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 1: the same thing. So that's why I believe. Man, you're

1227
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 1: you're talking about phone sat phone, you know, coming to

1228
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 1: a brother that's in a in a in a situation

1229
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 1: of distress. You know, you get that exact the first

1230
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 1: time you guys hung out. When that's how we are.

1231
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 1: It's a brotherhood man, same thing in all these tight

1232
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 1: communities like reconnaissance special Forces, uh, you know, Navy seals

1233
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 1: like you know, we we we suffer, we we endure

1234
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 1: misery together to the point where I can tell what

1235
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 1: piece of cloth you're cut from because it's the same

1236
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 1: as mine. You know, we walk the same path, we

1237
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 1: have the same morals, we we respect the same things.

1238
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 1: So right then and there, my guards are automatically going

1239
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 1: down when you tell me you're a Marine Scott Sniper.

1240
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 1: And like I said, it's just you feel that genuine genuineness,

1241
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 1: that that no agenda that y'all I truly want to

1242
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 1: help you out. And that's you know, for those kids

1243
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 1: that are looking to get into special operations. You know,

1244
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 1: not just the fact that later on you can call

1245
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 1: yourself a fucking badass, all right, I mean for some

1246
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 1: of you, that's what you guys are doing it for.

1247
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,479
Speaker 1: The truth is, as you get old, It's true. Uh.

1248
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 1: The truth is, as you get older and you start

1249
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 1: going to things, the biggest, biggest takeaway from joining one

1250
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 1: of those communities is that that tight knit, uh tight

1251
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 1: knit like environment where you'll you'll have brothers for life,

1252
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 1: for life in such a small community that transcend all

1253
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 1: facets of this world, in different industries and stuff like

1254
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:29,799
Speaker 1: that you could come to and you can draw from knowledge,

1255
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,680
Speaker 1: you know. That being said Joel, explain to us what

1256
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 1: you've been doing since you got out with the whole

1257
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 1: carpentry thing, cause I think a funny story. Yeah, Well,

1258
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 1: when I got out that this is the thing. Man,

1259
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 1: I got out the first time, I said the first

1260
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 1: time because I got Reco to go back to Iraq.

1261
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:46,560
Speaker 1: I got that the first time in two thousand and

1262
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,719
Speaker 1: two and two tousand and nine, I got Reco spent

1263
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 1: a year in Iraq. Uh. What I've been doing, man,

1264
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 1: never since I got out the first time, and then

1265
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 1: you know, that's what I got done with Iraq and

1266
01:08:57,080 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 1: twos and then it's uh, you know, would work carpentry,

1267
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 1: you know, catching cabinet, furniture, jewelry store and stuff like that.

1268
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 1: That's that's what I've been doing. The funny story you

1269
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 1: want to hear back in two thousand ten, Man, it's

1270
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 1: been like maybe about six months since I got back

1271
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 1: to direct. Um. I went up to watching b C

1272
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 1: with a mutual friend, you know, Josey, and we're just there,

1273
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 1: you know, we want there spend a few days location

1274
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 1: and watch a ball game, you know, uh, watching baseball team. Okay,

1275
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,600
Speaker 1: so we're there, man, I'm like, hey, man, let's go

1276
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 1: to uh let's go to Quantico and we can go

1277
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 1: to scoffs Niper School. Does the school I graduated from,

1278
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 1: And like right next to Scoff Niper School is the

1279
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 1: p w S, which is the Precision's Weapons Section. That's

1280
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 1: what they make called the mporty Serious Rifles, the muse

1281
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 1: of forty five, you know, d m R Rifles, all

1282
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 1: the stuff. So it's like, very cool, let's go. So

1283
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 1: we go down there and we spend the whole day

1284
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 1: with this guy, his name is Eric Read. At the time,

1285
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:07,640
Speaker 1: he was the guy in charge of the pups. He

1286
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 1: was also the one that designed the you know in

1287
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 1: forty eight three five serious rifles Bright there. So when

1288
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,760
Speaker 1: we're done at the pubs, we walk over to the schoolhouse.

1289
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 1: We're going to schoolhouse, and you know, I was like

1290
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 1: a little kid. Man. It's like it's been like a

1291
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 1: bunch of years. I'm back at my school, you know,

1292
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:30,679
Speaker 1: and all the chairs in the desk they're still there.

1293
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 1: And so we go back to the instructor area at

1294
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,720
Speaker 1: the same place where I met Chub Moheney, and why

1295
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:42,520
Speaker 1: there's there's this young sergeant. Uh, one of the instructors

1296
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 1: didn't there, and Eric, you know, introduced me to all

1297
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 1: of them ladies Dover Tag, you know one he used

1298
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:54,719
Speaker 1: to be an instructor also at the schoolhouse of Second Indivision. Uh,

1299
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 1: you know. He tells them all that all the stuff

1300
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 1: that I've done, all the you know, all the education

1301
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:01,760
Speaker 1: and stuff. And this guy he's all excited, you know

1302
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 1: that that he's mading me and stuff. He's like, hey man,

1303
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 1: you know, so so like where you being all this stuff?

1304
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, you know, I just got back

1305
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 1: to my rack. You know. He's like, Oh, that's that's

1306
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 1: that's foking cool, you know. No, No, He's like, so

1307
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,919
Speaker 1: what are you doing now, man? Like what are what agency?

1308
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you working for? I'm like, I'm like, no, dude,

1309
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 1: I'm not working for an agency. I'm I'm a wood

1310
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 1: worker back in Puerto Rico. And he's he's looking at

1311
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 1: me man like like like kind of lost. And then

1312
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 1: he's like he thinks he's a joke and he's like, nah,

1313
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 1: for real, man, you know, like I know, like you

1314
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 1: guys can't talk about that, you know, because of the

1315
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:39,520
Speaker 1: nature of the work. And I'm like, no, dude, I'm

1316
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 1: I'm furious. I'm a woodworker, man. I make like kitchen

1317
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 1: cabinets and stuff like that. He's like, what the fuck.

1318
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 1: He's like yeah, I mean he's like, you're like, you know,

1319
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 1: Marine corps, cuffs, sniper scuff, sniper instructure, You've been to

1320
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 1: all the schools, you've been to Iraq and you're building

1321
01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 1: cabinets and and I'm like, dude, wait until you get

1322
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 1: out you know, know that what you think? Yeah, I

1323
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:09,680
Speaker 1: was like, when until you get out of fucker? You know,

1324
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 1: it's not that It's not what you think. Man, It's

1325
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 1: not like we're gonna get down. There's like companies out

1326
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 1: they're waiting for that. I mean, I don't know now

1327
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 1: or it's not like you know, it's not like they're

1328
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:21,640
Speaker 1: gonna come. They're gonna come seek you out in the

1329
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 1: mountains of Colorado. Bob's Lisa Wagger, Hey, you want to

1330
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:29,640
Speaker 1: work black outs for the government? Point Yeah. He was

1331
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 1: like highly highly disappointed. You know that. I wasn't like

1332
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:35,680
Speaker 1: working for a naviancy or whatever. I think it's cool though,

1333
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 1: and it shows that you're a versatile person, multi talented,

1334
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 1: the same way that Jason is with tattoos. Uh No,

1335
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 1: I think that's great. You know. I feel like we

1336
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,599
Speaker 1: gotta get one good combat story out of you before

1337
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 1: we wrap this up. So anything that stands out, I mean,

1338
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 1: you have to have some awesome stories. Let me ship

1339
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 1: tell you this one man, we're not racking two TuS

1340
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 1: and nine. I think it was uh, I think it

1341
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 1: was all just we used to have this building and

1342
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:10,600
Speaker 1: it was pretty much like our company building. You know

1343
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 1: when I we used to go to the rooftop of

1344
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:18,639
Speaker 1: this building smoke cigars all the time. And I told

1345
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 1: you too story business stars. So we used to go

1346
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 1: to the rooftop and smoke all the time. I was

1347
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 1: into lil. This is right next to Nassy Riga in Iraq,

1348
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 1: and from the base that we were in you could

1349
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 1: see maybe like a mile away a cigarette cigarette. This

1350
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 1: is Sumerian pyramid, you know what I'm talking about. So

1351
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 1: we're sitting in this rooftop one day smoking cigars, and

1352
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 1: when you're inside your cub or fob, you get the

1353
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:52,679
Speaker 1: sense of like like you're secure, you know, and and

1354
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 1: especially in long deployments, you think when you're back in

1355
01:13:56,280 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 1: the fob or home you're safe. So we're in the

1356
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 1: rooster but this building talking this one day, and about

1357
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:08,640
Speaker 1: three or fours in front of us there was this

1358
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 1: big gasm lot and people used to park comers and

1359
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 1: the rafts there. So this particular day we're smoking, we're

1360
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 1: looking at the you know, the sunset just happens to

1361
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 1: be over the homers that I that I just told

1362
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,839
Speaker 1: you about three four yards las much. All of the sudden,

1363
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 1: one of the homers blows up, and this is this

1364
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 1: is the sense of security that you get when you're

1365
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 1: inside the pub. I'm looking I'm sitting there homer blows up.

1366
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 1: I look at the guy next to me, and the

1367
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 1: first thing that comes out of my math, out of

1368
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 1: my mouth, this is like, man, somebody sucked up. You know,

1369
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 1: like if like if someone like I don't like like

1370
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 1: like funked up, would explosive or did something wrong. And

1371
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 1: the homer blew up. You know that was my first

1372
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 1: You were inside the pop so so I mean, who's

1373
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:01,639
Speaker 1: going to attack us or you know, so all the sudden, man,

1374
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 1: you can hear like this loud zip noises and they

1375
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 1: were rockets we got We got rocketed that day with

1376
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:18,759
Speaker 1: five rockets, the one O seven's. They screamed very loudly. Yeah,

1377
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 1: they were pretty loud. So the thing is, we get up,

1378
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 1: start running, We go downstairs, you know that. We take

1379
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:28,799
Speaker 1: the stairs to get up the roof of the building,

1380
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:32,720
Speaker 1: and the people inside they come up laughing, you know,

1381
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 1: they bust out the doors laughing like hey, who failed,

1382
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 1: and we're like nobody's talking. Hell we're getting attacked, you know,

1383
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 1: and they'll start yelling again and run back inside the building.

1384
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 1: You know, that's the complacency is ridiculous. You really start

1385
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 1: getting and you know that's that's where that's saying comes

1386
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 1: the complacency kills because you get that one sense of security. Man. Yeah, man,

1387
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you I got something similar like that

1388
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 1: in this camp Alisade, which is I don't know if

1389
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 1: you Alasade is in al Khim is like the biggest basis. Yeah,

1390
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:10,799
Speaker 1: And this is a forty by forty click base. It's huge,

1391
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 1: it's massive, and there's movie theaters in there. There's a

1392
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 1: Carl's Jr. Truck from when I remember. Probably there's probably

1393
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:19,640
Speaker 1: a mall there in an embassy building or something now

1394
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's huge. It was massive. Man,

1395
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 1: let me tell you. P X everything so forty by

1396
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 1: forty click base. You know, you don't really think and

1397
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 1: much is gonna happen to you? Right, somehow a rocket

1398
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:36,879
Speaker 1: comes into the base and it didn't really have a target.

1399
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 1: These guys really didn't. They didn't have the four controllers

1400
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 1: and it was just like, I'm sending something that way,

1401
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 1: hopefully we'll hit something. And this kid coming out the

1402
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 1: p X definitely a pogue um. You know, no disrespect

1403
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:50,680
Speaker 1: to him because the kid eventually lost his life, but

1404
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 1: you know he's walking out of the p X and

1405
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 1: his guy's coping a and his magazine, and you know

1406
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:58,680
Speaker 1: he's thinking to himself and nothing gonna happen to me here.

1407
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 1: I got the most cush spot here. And next, you know,

1408
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 1: I don't know where a rocket comes down and lands

1409
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 1: right on and in front of the p X, Like,

1410
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:09,599
Speaker 1: what the hell are the possibilities for that? And that's

1411
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 1: what we're talking about, that complacency. When you're in there,

1412
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 1: you're still in the combat zone. Gentlemen, you still have

1413
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:18,679
Speaker 1: to keep your wits about your situational awareness about it happens.

1414
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:21,679
Speaker 1: It happens to the best of us. What's your other one, Joe,

1415
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 1: I love it. I'm going on a good man. Yeah, yeah,

1416
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 1: So you get, you get, you get like that, you know,

1417
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 1: and it's it's easy to do. That's a big place

1418
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 1: for places. By fourth place, Uh can't bat or what

1419
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 1: it was cub bat or it was like about three

1420
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 1: by five, so it was it was pretty small. All

1421
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:47,679
Speaker 1: we had was the true section, you know, the housing unit,

1422
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 1: little p X and then an airstrip and that was it,

1423
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 1: you know where we were land and and and take

1424
01:17:55,040 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 1: out from. So what that's about it? Right? What's the

1425
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:02,800
Speaker 1: second story? He said? You had another one for us?

1426
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 1: So in Iraq. Man I was with an army unit. Okay,

1427
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 1: so this guy's man and this this this building what

1428
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:17,719
Speaker 1: we used to smoke. Uh. It had like a ladder,

1429
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 1: just the ladder we will go open down like a

1430
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 1: fireman's kind of ladder deal. And this building was like

1431
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:27,880
Speaker 1: eighteen feet high. One day, the botanic commanders comes out

1432
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 1: and he's like, I knew like I would worker back home.

1433
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, sir. He's like, why why don't you

1434
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 1: build like a nice you know, set of stairs so

1435
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 1: you guys can go up and down the building without actually,

1436
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:43,599
Speaker 1: you know, by going up and down this skinny ladder

1437
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 1: you know. I was like, yeah, we'll do that, you know.

1438
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 1: So it took me like about two weeks. Man build

1439
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 1: this this like a staircase actually to go up to

1440
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:56,559
Speaker 1: the roof building. And at the very tub I put

1441
01:18:56,600 --> 01:19:00,160
Speaker 1: a sign and it was the Mohini's deck like had

1442
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 1: so the Mohins back these guys, you know, their army guys,

1443
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, so who's Mohini that you could

1444
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,640
Speaker 1: you know chuck Mahinus back over there. And now I

1445
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 1: was like, well he was a marine corst sniper and

1446
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:19,720
Speaker 1: the like don't like what the funk? Man? You know,

1447
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 1: this is like an army unit. I was like, and

1448
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 1: that that that that unit right there was called the

1449
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:27,839
Speaker 1: Putty First ib CT and they were out of Oregon.

1450
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:30,479
Speaker 1: So I was like, now, man, listen and this this

1451
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 1: is just pure coincidence. Also I listen, man, you know,

1452
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 1: I see the man's bag, you know, yeah, Marine Corp sniper.

1453
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 1: But then it's like Chuck Moheney, he's from Oregon, and

1454
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 1: they were like, oh, okay, we got it. You know.

1455
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I think the most the most

1456
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 1: interesting part that a lot of people are probably questioning, now,

1457
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 1: how did a Marine Corps scout sniper get reactivated and

1458
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 1: sent to an army unit? You know, I didn't know that,

1459
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 1: but I'll tell you how it happened. Man. In two

1460
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 1: thousand and nine, D was doing a report for the

1461
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 1: Army and I had the same question when I got

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01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 1: the letter. I got a letter man, and the mail saying,

1463
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:14,719
Speaker 1: you know, but Presidential number Order uh sons or whatever,

1464
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:19,680
Speaker 1: You're being activated back to activity and a date to

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01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 1: report to a base. So I called the number man,

1466
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:24,720
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, listen, you know, I've been

1467
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:28,840
Speaker 1: out for like seven years and I served you know,

1468
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 1: nine years, so I don't have any IR time, and

1469
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 1: you're recalling me again, you know, calling me back. And

1470
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 1: they were like, well this it doesn't matter of your

1471
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:39,680
Speaker 1: IR time. This is a recall. You know, the Army

1472
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 1: is doing a recall now and two thousand and nine.

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01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 1: The minds they want in two thousand and seven. Even

1474
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:46,599
Speaker 1: the Navy they want like in two thousand four or something.

1475
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 1: So the thing is they go, they based a recall

1476
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 1: on the needs. So they needed you know, a sniper

1477
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 1: and the armies that before. So they called me back.

1478
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 1: When they they re called me back, it was like

1479
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 1: opposed to thirty of us that reported to for Benning.

1480
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 1: You know, when you had guys, it was like two

1481
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 1: guys from the navy. Uh, there was like two more

1482
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 1: instant me and be saw the guy and then a

1483
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 1: bunch of arming guys. And it ranges from everything company engineers,

1484
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 1: rangers such as you know, all the stuff. So that's

1485
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 1: how I got called back, sweet Brow. They needed it

1486
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 1: before to go to Kalio. And it was funny too, man,

1487
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 1: another funny story. When I got to you know, I

1488
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 1: got spent. I spent you know a few weeks at

1489
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 1: Benning a few weeks at tim Shelby, Mississippi, and then

1490
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 1: you know, as you know, you've got a cool wait

1491
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 1: when you were there for about fifteen days or whatever,

1492
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:47,280
Speaker 1: and then you go to either Iraq Organistan. When I

1493
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:50,800
Speaker 1: got to Iraq, it was just beaming by myself. I

1494
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 1: got to a cove adder, I got out of the plane,

1495
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:56,080
Speaker 1: I go into you know what they called the terminal,

1496
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 1: and I'm caring like this, you know, four duffel bags

1497
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 1: and stuff, and I'm just waiting there for someone to

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01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 1: pick me up. Uh. About an hour later, man at

1499
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 1: first sargean shows up and he's like, hey, are you

1500
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:08,120
Speaker 1: the sniper on my yes or shoring. He's like, okay,

1501
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 1: you're coming with me. As we're walking out, and know,

1502
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:12,920
Speaker 1: their first sargeant shows up and he's like, hey, are

1503
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 1: you the sniper and I'm like yes, We're sorry. It's

1504
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 1: like no, you're coming with me, and I'm like okay. So,

1505
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:22,799
Speaker 1: you know, I wish one instant. So they start arguing,

1506
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:26,720
Speaker 1: like who's gonna take me with them too, you know,

1507
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 1: to their company or whatever. Well, they're arguing, and this

1508
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 1: true story, by the way, man, Well they're arguing, a

1509
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 1: sergeant major shows up. Sergeant major storm. He looked like

1510
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 1: no ship man. He looked like that uh Sergeant Barnes

1511
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 1: from Platoon, that Tom Burring character. He even had the

1512
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 1: scar on his face. He shows up. Badass guy, man,

1513
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:49,240
Speaker 1: real cool guy. He shows up and he's like, are

1514
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:50,760
Speaker 1: you the sniper And I'm like yes. I mean, He's

1515
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:53,599
Speaker 1: just like, no, you're coming with me. So I'm like,

1516
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 1: all right, let's go. It's like, who's gonna come and

1517
01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 1: explain my whole time? You're gonna come back with the

1518
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:01,800
Speaker 1: b and I was that. It's like who's gonna come

1519
01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:05,600
Speaker 1: back with the prize to the unit? Like whatever. The

1520
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 1: two first start and just tow they just do there

1521
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:10,960
Speaker 1: looking at him like okay, you know, without saying anything.

1522
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:14,000
Speaker 1: You know, he grabbed like two my backs, I grabbed

1523
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 1: the other one thing we drove off. So that's one

1524
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:20,479
Speaker 1: of those one team one five things. Though, as we say,

1525
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 1: you know, because you're hanging out with the army guys

1526
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 1: and you know, it all cut from the same cloth

1527
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 1: as you said earlier. Yeah, it was. It was a

1528
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 1: good experience, man, it was. It was funny at times,

1529
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 1: you know, and not so funny at others. Another story, man,

1530
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:37,679
Speaker 1: At this one time, we're at the at the talk,

1531
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 1: and that talk is the Tactical Operating Center co Operations Center.

1532
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 1: I'm in there, man, and the talk is like big,

1533
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 1: like really really big. They're big buildings usually. So I'm

1534
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:53,639
Speaker 1: standing there, like by the front door, and I don't

1535
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:56,679
Speaker 1: about to leave. I turned around, you know, throughout the building,

1536
01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 1: and I see sorry major Stot coming and I'm like,

1537
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:02,760
Speaker 1: ship man, what do they say in the army when

1538
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:06,680
Speaker 1: the sorgan major you know, walks in, you know, And

1539
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:09,640
Speaker 1: I'm like thinking, thinking, and I'm like, well, I don't know,

1540
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just I'm just gonna say what we

1541
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 1: say in the Marine Corps, you know. So he walks in,

1542
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:16,599
Speaker 1: nobody else is looking, and I'm like begging for someone

1543
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 1: else to be looking this way so they can say

1544
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 1: whatever it is that they say, you know. And I'm like,

1545
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 1: you're standing there and even making noises with the door

1546
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, just to see if someone looks

1547
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 1: this way and see the Sorgean major coming so they

1548
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 1: can yell whatever it is. So anyway, it didn't happen,

1549
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 1: you know. So I'm looking. I'm like, okay, let's go,

1550
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:37,559
Speaker 1: let's do it, you know. So he's working stop at

1551
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 1: pension man, I'm like at pension on deck. You know,

1552
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 1: everybody just turned around and looked at me, like what

1553
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 1: the fog? You know? Sergeant Major store Man, he keeps walking,

1554
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:49,559
Speaker 1: puts his own around my neck and he's like America.

1555
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 1: He's like, you're the marine guy, right. I'm like, yeah,

1556
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 1: I'm the god you picked up at the airport, right.

1557
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 1: And he's like, hey, you know, next time, you know,

1558
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:59,759
Speaker 1: just say at ease. And I'm like, all right, you know, amazing.

1559
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:04,560
Speaker 1: Our traditions are crazy. It's like the traditions between or

1560
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 1: or you know, our practices are like so different from

1561
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 1: the army, Like, you know, they can wear covers indoors

1562
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 1: and we can't. You know, they salute indoors or maybe

1563
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 1: they can't wear covers, but they salute indoors and we don't.

1564
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 1: You know, they can wear their uniform out of town,

1565
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 1: their b d U s. We can't. You know. It's

1566
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 1: just it's crazy. And then we announced you know, all

1567
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:26,639
Speaker 1: feel great great officers and enter a room. We announced

1568
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:28,400
Speaker 1: you know, the certain majors and stuff like that, like

1569
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 1: you know, we give the people their respect and the

1570
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:32,120
Speaker 1: attention that they command when they walk in the room.

1571
01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 1: Because that's like, hey, all eyes on him, pay attention.

1572
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 1: You know, he's about to you know, whatever he requires,

1573
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 1: or he could just say, at ease, calm down and

1574
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 1: go about your business. So it's a respecting we do,

1575
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 1: you know, and I think that goes in part a

1576
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:47,759
Speaker 1: lot with how we just conduct ourselves and on missions.

1577
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 1: You know, we just we have that. You know, everyone

1578
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:54,840
Speaker 1: is going to get their respect, you know, and we're

1579
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:58,960
Speaker 1: gonna you know, we're gonna go hard for everything we do. Yeah, anyway,

1580
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 1: it's a good experience, man, it was. It was really

1581
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:03,760
Speaker 1: really cool. Uh. We even got to celebrate the Marine

1582
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 1: Corps birthday over there and what they did, Man, I

1583
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 1: think it was pretty cool from the Army, you know,

1584
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 1: by doing this. But November ten, early in the morning,

1585
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 1: if we have any former Marines you know that are

1586
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 1: now soldiers in the army, they want all of you,

1587
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 1: you know, and you know, in the in this place,

1588
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:25,559
Speaker 1: in the in the fob because you guys are going

1589
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 1: to celebrate on the Marine Corps birthday and stuff like that.

1590
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 1: So it was like announced every word that only marines

1591
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:35,519
Speaker 1: and former Marines and even you know, the contractors that

1592
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:39,960
Speaker 1: were former Marines were allowed in this corner of the

1593
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 1: you know, campatre to go to the ceremony, and obviously

1594
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:48,599
Speaker 1: they had the cape, they had the uh you know,

1595
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:53,440
Speaker 1: even the message from the common down, you know, and

1596
01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 1: so everybody knew and the union. Man, you know that

1597
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 1: I was former marine. So some of the guys that

1598
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 1: I came pretty close with, man, they were like, and

1599
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 1: many think we can go with you to the to

1600
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 1: the Marine Corp thing. And I was like many, you know,

1601
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 1: it's only four you know marines, you know, four memrines

1602
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:12,760
Speaker 1: stuff like that. I was like, I told you what

1603
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 1: then was two guys, I was, I told you what then,

1604
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:17,559
Speaker 1: just keep your mouth shut and company, you know. So

1605
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:19,800
Speaker 1: so I took him over with me and then they

1606
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 1: saw the whole you know, tradition and what I called

1607
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 1: the marine ness of the moment, you know, and they,

1608
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 1: you know, they ate the cake. You know, everybody hugs everybody,

1609
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 1: you know, how this man. And at the end when

1610
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:36,640
Speaker 1: we left, they were like, man, that was that was

1611
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 1: sucking cold? You know it was it was it was awesome,

1612
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:42,640
Speaker 1: you know. They had like I said, man, it was

1613
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:46,760
Speaker 1: just this moment. You know, you had the cake they

1614
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:50,040
Speaker 1: had on a a little screen, you know, they put

1615
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:53,559
Speaker 1: in the tape or bigly or whatever with the message

1616
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 1: you know from the common damn stuff like that. And

1617
01:27:56,200 --> 01:28:00,759
Speaker 1: he actually addressed the message to you know, obviously Marines,

1618
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:03,960
Speaker 1: but also you know former Marines in other branches. You know.

1619
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:07,160
Speaker 1: It was cool, man, it was really really cool. And

1620
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 1: one of these guys was Captain Barner. You know, we

1621
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 1: be thinking close friends in Iraq and he was he

1622
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:16,600
Speaker 1: was like impressed. Man, he was my man. That was

1623
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:21,000
Speaker 1: that was called as farm. There wasn't serious ship. That's awesome. Yeah,

1624
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 1: that's great. Um, So before we get out of here, Um,

1625
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:27,680
Speaker 1: since you guys met on Instagram, what's if you want

1626
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:30,680
Speaker 1: to throw out your Instagram, plug your business anything you

1627
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 1: want to get out there? Man, Yeah, Instagram is thunderstrucks,

1628
01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:38,040
Speaker 1: just like the A C. D. E C song Thunderstruck

1629
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:45,599
Speaker 1: right now on our Instagram. Yeah, thunderstruck one. That's that's

1630
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:49,880
Speaker 1: my Instagram right there and my business down here. Man.

1631
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 1: It's not called timber as you know for wood, timber

1632
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 1: and blues and it's in Ouadi. Yeah, that's that's the

1633
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 1: test on where timber and blues is sad then pretty

1634
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:04,559
Speaker 1: much man, brief description and what DNB is, it's uh,

1635
01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 1: we call it a cafe bar. Uh. We we're gonna

1636
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 1: have manage uh coffee. Obviously it's not gonna be from

1637
01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:16,679
Speaker 1: from an expressing machine. It's gonna be with the poor

1638
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 1: over method. Uh. For those of you that don't know

1639
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:24,640
Speaker 1: what that is, is basically man an hour glass, like

1640
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 1: a big hour glass where you put a filter on top,

1641
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:30,639
Speaker 1: You put you obviously, the grounded coffee in the filter,

1642
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:35,280
Speaker 1: and then you with a goose neck caraph you pour

1643
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:39,120
Speaker 1: the water on the coffee. So that's poor over coffee.

1644
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 1: So we're gonna have coffee. Is uh supposed to be

1645
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:45,040
Speaker 1: some damn good Coffee's that? This must be some damn

1646
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:48,320
Speaker 1: good coffee. It sounds like it's, in my opinion, is

1647
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:51,880
Speaker 1: the best. You know what. Expressing machines are like a

1648
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:57,559
Speaker 1: new invention, you know, technically, and the thing is, man

1649
01:29:57,600 --> 01:29:58,960
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know how to work with

1650
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:01,320
Speaker 1: express machines and they burn your coffee. That's why it

1651
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:04,200
Speaker 1: tastes better most of the time. You know, it's not

1652
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:06,680
Speaker 1: the coffee itself, but it's it's it's you know, it's

1653
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:08,920
Speaker 1: the machine pressure on all the water to the coffee

1654
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:11,880
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But you know, whoever likes that

1655
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:14,400
Speaker 1: that's that's that's cool. This is just something different. So

1656
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:19,920
Speaker 1: full over coffee. Uh uh, we're gonna have like some food,

1657
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:22,080
Speaker 1: you know, pastries and stuff like that. Were one of

1658
01:30:22,120 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 1: the brunches and Sundays and cigars you know, you know,

1659
01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:34,360
Speaker 1: obviously it's cigars from you know, um, you know, from Honduras,

1660
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 1: nick Aragua, Dominican Republic, some from Puerto Rico. So believe

1661
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:41,760
Speaker 1: it or not, there's still um cigars being produced here

1662
01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 1: and they're pretty good obviously, you know, a bunch of

1663
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:52,559
Speaker 1: alcohol profit tails, you know, beer, local beer, so all

1664
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:55,519
Speaker 1: that stuff right, pretty much the team and Jason saw it.

1665
01:30:55,600 --> 01:31:01,759
Speaker 1: But uh what Timber and Blues looks like. It's speak

1666
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 1: and if you guys are familiar with the term, you

1667
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:08,920
Speaker 1: know pek e C blink pig. So that's that's pretty

1668
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:12,439
Speaker 1: much what it is. So much blank side and was

1669
01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 1: that what's the website if people want to check it out, Well,

1670
01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Timber and Blues dot com. You better

1671
01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:22,920
Speaker 1: get that down before somebody. Okay, good, but I say

1672
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:24,600
Speaker 1: you better get that knock. That's what they're doing is

1673
01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 1: they're buying websites so they can sell it to you. Yeah. No,

1674
01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:32,639
Speaker 1: we already bought it. Okay, cool, cool, Okay, it's gonna

1675
01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:35,519
Speaker 1: be It's gonna be up completely next week. But if

1676
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:39,320
Speaker 1: timber blues dot com I can't right there? Could you

1677
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:43,320
Speaker 1: just spell that out for so people could bookmark it? Yeah,

1678
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:49,439
Speaker 1: Timber D I M B E R and you know

1679
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:53,960
Speaker 1: a N D and then blues l U E S cool.

1680
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:55,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, book but you know, keep an eye out

1681
01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:59,120
Speaker 1: for it and it will be up next week. Um, dude,

1682
01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:02,280
Speaker 1: you definitely brought it for episode three hundred. We appreciate it.

1683
01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:04,680
Speaker 1: You know, took a little risk bringing a new guy on,

1684
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:07,479
Speaker 1: but we'll definitely have you back. Man. Some great stories.

1685
01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:09,960
Speaker 1: It's really knowledgeable. Yeah, and and also that on the

1686
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 1: ground experience in Puerto Rico, some some sniper history and

1687
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:16,639
Speaker 1: the Marine Corps. I think we covered a lot man,

1688
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:20,440
Speaker 1: And now, thank you man, thank you for the opportunity.

1689
01:32:20,479 --> 01:32:23,360
Speaker 1: It was an honor. And uh, you know, like by

1690
01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:27,519
Speaker 1: listening to you sometimes, you know, seeing the podcast and

1691
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:29,640
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and it's it's it's just great. It was.

1692
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:32,080
Speaker 1: It was an honor man, any time, and it's an

1693
01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:34,120
Speaker 1: honor for us to hear the people who are listening

1694
01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:37,719
Speaker 1: from everywhere. Man, and whenever, whenever you get a chance,

1695
01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:40,080
Speaker 1: you know, Jason's coming, but you in you know, when

1696
01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:41,960
Speaker 1: where you get a chance, come down here. And we

1697
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:44,800
Speaker 1: got a Tamburn Blues nice all right. I may have

1698
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:47,360
Speaker 1: to take you up on that, manh yeah, but if

1699
01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:49,679
Speaker 1: it's awesome to hear the people listening in Puerto Rico

1700
01:32:49,720 --> 01:32:53,439
Speaker 1: and Australia and Germany, you know, stationed overseas fighting for

1701
01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:56,320
Speaker 1: the country, like it's it's all over the place. So

1702
01:32:56,439 --> 01:32:58,920
Speaker 1: it's it's it's just great man. As a guy who's

1703
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:01,519
Speaker 1: done like terrestrial radio in the past, where you know,

1704
01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:04,320
Speaker 1: you're speaking to people on Long Island, which is where

1705
01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:06,840
Speaker 1: I was, like, it's a whole different ballgame when we're

1706
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:09,680
Speaker 1: talking to people worldwide, like you know, you feel like

1707
01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:13,080
Speaker 1: it's a big responsibility and uh, you know, I want

1708
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:15,120
Speaker 1: to put out great shows every week for these people,

1709
01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:18,200
Speaker 1: and Jason feels the same. Hell yeah, hey, Joel, no

1710
01:33:18,360 --> 01:33:21,639
Speaker 1: it is. I just want to say thank you, thank

1711
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:28,040
Speaker 1: you so much for coming on. Delmeo translated my guy.

1712
01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:30,639
Speaker 1: I appreciate everything you did and thanks for coming on.

1713
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:33,320
Speaker 1: And I'm sure I told you on Instagram. We'll probably

1714
01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:36,360
Speaker 1: do a text message. But if not, happy belated Birthday

1715
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:39,519
Speaker 1: del Dogs AMPLI five Man and Happy Veterans Day as

1716
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:43,240
Speaker 1: well and Happy Veterans Day. Killer. Hey, thank you very much.

1717
01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:47,719
Speaker 1: I'll hit you up later. Brother. All right, thank you. Thanks.

1718
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:51,880
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1752
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Speaker 1: So as I was doing that read for Casper, Jason

1753
01:35:57,600 --> 01:36:01,280
Speaker 1: went downstairs and we have a very special guests. On

1754
01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:05,760
Speaker 1: episode three hundred, the softwarep Radio audience might not know

1755
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:08,760
Speaker 1: you yet, but you know, anybody who's seen inside the

1756
01:36:08,840 --> 01:36:11,559
Speaker 1: team room cut from the same cloth, you know, which

1757
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:14,360
Speaker 1: is on Softwrep TV. They might be familiar with Navy

1758
01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:17,599
Speaker 1: Seal Steve Rolston, who is in the New York area.

1759
01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:20,080
Speaker 1: You know you live here and swung by, which is

1760
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:23,240
Speaker 1: a real honor for episode three, man, well, thank you.

1761
01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:25,679
Speaker 1: I appreciate what we did. Talk it an enormous amount

1762
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:27,400
Speaker 1: of for ship that day. It was a lot of

1763
01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:32,519
Speaker 1: poop poop with Jim. Yeah, you get you get Jim

1764
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:34,439
Speaker 1: in the room, you get us in the room. Some

1765
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:39,679
Speaker 1: alcohol you didn't drink, so you're naturally fucking nuts. Maybe

1766
01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:41,880
Speaker 1: a little too much sugar, a little too much caffeine.

1767
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:44,759
Speaker 1: That was That was definitely that was an awesome show.

1768
01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:46,880
Speaker 1: You kind of, you know, kind of set the tone

1769
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:50,120
Speaker 1: for what I would say, my demeanor was on the

1770
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:52,040
Speaker 1: air there on after the fact, and I kind of

1771
01:36:52,040 --> 01:36:53,920
Speaker 1: had to tone it down because I don't know what

1772
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:56,759
Speaker 1: kind of show am I on? We are we talking

1773
01:36:56,800 --> 01:36:59,479
Speaker 1: about prostitutes and stuff? All right? Cool, y'all, y'all dig

1774
01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:01,880
Speaker 1: that right? We could keep going and then it's been like,

1775
01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:04,400
Speaker 1: dogdo you gotta cool it with the curse and I'm like,

1776
01:37:04,439 --> 01:37:06,040
Speaker 1: I don't know where I'm at. I'm confused right now.

1777
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but yeah, that was an awesome episode. Man,

1778
01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:10,880
Speaker 1: what with him? It's it's only a matter of time

1779
01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:14,360
Speaker 1: before somebody's sucking with, somebody's getting sucking stabbed, or he's

1780
01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:17,760
Speaker 1: taking his fucking tongue, honest, and his ship is like

1781
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:20,840
Speaker 1: four ft long and you can look at his eyebrowsers,

1782
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:25,640
Speaker 1: so he does best. Steve, tell us what you've been

1783
01:37:25,640 --> 01:37:27,759
Speaker 1: doing in the city, man, I mean, you gotta fucking

1784
01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:31,040
Speaker 1: pampass bad because you bust your ass. You you work

1785
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:34,519
Speaker 1: pretty hard. Um, I think it's interesting what you do. Um.

1786
01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:38,360
Speaker 1: Can you enlighten people as to what you do for

1787
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:41,800
Speaker 1: people that require your services? And you can get right

1788
01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:48,280
Speaker 1: on there. I'm gonna put the giant Pelic's close as

1789
01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:54,840
Speaker 1: close as possible the fuzzy one. Disregard the penis in

1790
01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:59,960
Speaker 1: your eye socket. I'm a safety and security can sell

1791
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:02,719
Speaker 1: And what that translates to in English is I work

1792
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:08,719
Speaker 1: for attorneys and I do a bunch of private surveillance projects,

1793
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:12,240
Speaker 1: whether that's for fraud or whether that's for real crime,

1794
01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:18,320
Speaker 1: and I put individuals into criminals patterns of life, and

1795
01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:23,000
Speaker 1: we get evidence of them doing stuff they shouldn't be doing.

1796
01:38:23,320 --> 01:38:26,760
Speaker 1: That's all right. So it's I've been lucky. I've been

1797
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:29,320
Speaker 1: put about a thousand hours in the last two years,

1798
01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:33,280
Speaker 1: and it's it's continuing to grow. I've got some guys

1799
01:38:33,320 --> 01:38:35,880
Speaker 1: doing projects in Boston, some guys doing projects in North

1800
01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:41,000
Speaker 1: and South Carolina. I work with retired homicide detectives here

1801
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:43,880
Speaker 1: in the city and it's been lots of fun. You know,

1802
01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:46,559
Speaker 1: any any time we can help to take out the trash,

1803
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:49,639
Speaker 1: whether that's globally or just locally, you know, we want

1804
01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:52,080
Speaker 1: to do it because people don't understand that crime it

1805
01:38:52,120 --> 01:38:54,479
Speaker 1: affects all of us, whatever kind of crime it is.

1806
01:38:54,479 --> 01:38:57,320
Speaker 1: It raises the prices for everything. It people don't feel

1807
01:38:57,320 --> 01:38:59,920
Speaker 1: safe leaving our homes we have fucking wackadoodles or the

1808
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:03,720
Speaker 1: people over on bike paths. I mean, if anything we

1809
01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:05,720
Speaker 1: can do to help, we're gonna do it. So what

1810
01:39:05,800 --> 01:39:09,120
Speaker 1: about your your background in the seals For people unfamiliar

1811
01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:12,360
Speaker 1: with you know what you've done. What was I went

1812
01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:14,439
Speaker 1: into the Navy ten days out of high school and

1813
01:39:14,479 --> 01:39:18,880
Speaker 1: then I did your normal Navy nonsense for approximately nine months,

1814
01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:22,320
Speaker 1: and then I went to BUDS. I went to BUDS

1815
01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:27,920
Speaker 1: and nineteen graduated n was in my first seal team

1816
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:32,120
Speaker 1: still Delivery Vehicle Team one. Did two platoons there as

1817
01:39:32,160 --> 01:39:35,760
Speaker 1: a primary pilot for the STV. Spent a lot of

1818
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:38,960
Speaker 1: hours flying that thing, maybe I don't know, maybe a

1819
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:43,000
Speaker 1: thousand hours, and then lots of dried egg, shelter stuff,

1820
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:45,800
Speaker 1: which is pretty amazing. I was doing a bunch of

1821
01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:47,880
Speaker 1: James Bond ship when I was twenty and didn't even

1822
01:39:47,920 --> 01:39:51,880
Speaker 1: realize how cool it was. And basically, you fly the

1823
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:57,439
Speaker 1: STV around the giant nuclear submarine and follow your It's

1824
01:39:57,560 --> 01:40:00,200
Speaker 1: it's a lot like flying an airplane underwater using only

1825
01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:06,120
Speaker 1: your instruments, but the consequences aren't so severe because you

1826
01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:08,400
Speaker 1: can use your instruments to power back to the surface

1827
01:40:08,439 --> 01:40:11,759
Speaker 1: and with a with an airplane, if you're your ship

1828
01:40:11,800 --> 01:40:14,400
Speaker 1: goes down, you're gonna going down. Yeah, You're going flaming

1829
01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:16,880
Speaker 1: into the earth. So I did that for four and

1830
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:18,519
Speaker 1: a half years, and then I was lucky you went

1831
01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:20,400
Speaker 1: to Seal Team three. I was there for about four

1832
01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:24,280
Speaker 1: and a half years. Also, I did Brandon and Right.

1833
01:40:24,439 --> 01:40:27,360
Speaker 1: I didn't know Davis. I didn't know Brandon in the teams.

1834
01:40:27,400 --> 01:40:33,519
Speaker 1: I meant him after when we were working on He

1835
01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:35,439
Speaker 1: was working on a training project and so was I.

1836
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:40,400
Speaker 1: We we met through local contacts. When I also when

1837
01:40:40,439 --> 01:40:42,519
Speaker 1: I got other teams, I had a commercial real estate company,

1838
01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:47,720
Speaker 1: so I knew brand very successful commercial real estate at

1839
01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:51,559
Speaker 1: a young age. With that, with all that being said,

1840
01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:55,519
Speaker 1: you know why divorce is so expensive because it's fucking more.

1841
01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:59,760
Speaker 1: Think this guy is crazy. Let me tell you this.

1842
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:02,519
Speaker 1: And I don't even know if he is still, but

1843
01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:06,120
Speaker 1: was grossing. His business was grossing something like what you're

1844
01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:08,559
Speaker 1: saying at one point was fourteen million. I know more

1845
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:11,560
Speaker 1: than that. We're not. When I, when I so graciously

1846
01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:14,560
Speaker 1: signed it over to my ex, we had a conservative,

1847
01:41:14,640 --> 01:41:17,519
Speaker 1: a conservative pretax estimate of prodily two and fifty million.

1848
01:41:18,320 --> 01:41:21,440
Speaker 1: That's not not what not our net worth is assets

1849
01:41:21,479 --> 01:41:24,160
Speaker 1: that we handled for other people are. Net worth was

1850
01:41:24,200 --> 01:41:27,400
Speaker 1: obviously significantly less then, but we did still own pieces

1851
01:41:27,479 --> 01:41:32,240
Speaker 1: each one of the buildings. And that was through no

1852
01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:35,559
Speaker 1: skill or it was basically all luck. I just happened

1853
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:37,160
Speaker 1: to be in the right place at the right time

1854
01:41:37,400 --> 01:41:39,680
Speaker 1: a bunch of days in a row. It took your

1855
01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:42,639
Speaker 1: personality to it took your work ethic that you learned

1856
01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:45,040
Speaker 1: in the military. Probably even before that. The fact is,

1857
01:41:45,360 --> 01:41:46,840
Speaker 1: you know, it took a lot of that work ethic,

1858
01:41:46,880 --> 01:41:50,519
Speaker 1: and it also took you keeping your word to people

1859
01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:53,200
Speaker 1: to get to the point where they can depend on you.

1860
01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:55,960
Speaker 1: They can say, this fucking guy is going to get

1861
01:41:55,960 --> 01:41:58,920
Speaker 1: the job done, and that's that what that's what propelled

1862
01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:02,320
Speaker 1: your business. Am I correct? Yeah, you're absolutely correct. We

1863
01:42:02,360 --> 01:42:08,080
Speaker 1: had everything from the highest rent in San Diego, in Lajoya, California,

1864
01:42:08,200 --> 01:42:11,360
Speaker 1: and then some of the lowest rents down and Sandue

1865
01:42:11,400 --> 01:42:14,560
Speaker 1: Cedro time Mesa area. And the reason I'm bringing that

1866
01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:19,960
Speaker 1: up is I had several negotiations with individuals that are

1867
01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:24,160
Speaker 1: paying maybe eight cents to square foot and then with

1868
01:42:24,240 --> 01:42:26,719
Speaker 1: some of the individuals in lahoy are paying fifteen dollars

1869
01:42:26,720 --> 01:42:30,080
Speaker 1: a square foot. So you had to be able to

1870
01:42:31,400 --> 01:42:34,639
Speaker 1: be a chameleon and work with each one of those

1871
01:42:35,080 --> 01:42:37,640
Speaker 1: groups of people. Not that one is better than or

1872
01:42:37,720 --> 01:42:40,400
Speaker 1: less than or any of that nonsense, but everybody needs something,

1873
01:42:40,520 --> 01:42:42,320
Speaker 1: and if you can't go out there and help them,

1874
01:42:42,600 --> 01:42:46,400
Speaker 1: if you're out there only looking for what you can get,

1875
01:42:46,520 --> 01:42:48,920
Speaker 1: you're never going to be successful. But if you can

1876
01:42:48,960 --> 01:42:52,160
Speaker 1: help somebody get what they're looking for, then you're always

1877
01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:54,479
Speaker 1: going to be successful. Because you're looking at you're not

1878
01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:58,599
Speaker 1: looking at it as an individual basis, like, Okay, I'm

1879
01:42:58,600 --> 01:43:01,080
Speaker 1: going to treat this person different because it's his income

1880
01:43:01,120 --> 01:43:03,960
Speaker 1: in you're looking at as this is my product, this

1881
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:06,360
Speaker 1: is what I do. It doesn't matter who the client is.

1882
01:43:06,360 --> 01:43:08,840
Speaker 1: I'm going to give him. This is what we agree to.

1883
01:43:09,680 --> 01:43:11,760
Speaker 1: That's it. We can either shake hands and get it

1884
01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:14,799
Speaker 1: done or we can't. That's okay. I'm not personally invested

1885
01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:16,680
Speaker 1: in either one. Hopefully I can help pe, but if

1886
01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:18,640
Speaker 1: I can't, that's all right. Let me point you in

1887
01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:21,160
Speaker 1: a direction where you can find somebody who can. So

1888
01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:24,839
Speaker 1: you know, if y I guys financially, you know, especially

1889
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:26,360
Speaker 1: out here in New York, you can make like sucking

1890
01:43:26,360 --> 01:43:29,280
Speaker 1: six figures and still be broke as hell. Um, I

1891
01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:33,080
Speaker 1: wasn't in a decent place, and Steve freaking didn't know

1892
01:43:33,160 --> 01:43:34,880
Speaker 1: me from a hole in the wall, and he put

1893
01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:37,840
Speaker 1: me to work. And the great thing about him is

1894
01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:42,440
Speaker 1: he is he actively He's actively looking for special operation

1895
01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:46,400
Speaker 1: veterans that are in the New York area of Boston

1896
01:43:46,479 --> 01:43:50,559
Speaker 1: area that you know, have the skill set to do

1897
01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:52,639
Speaker 1: the things he requires them to do to keep them

1898
01:43:52,640 --> 01:43:55,679
Speaker 1: gainfully employed and give him that purpose and after the fact,

1899
01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:57,360
Speaker 1: like I said, he's pulled me out of a lot

1900
01:43:57,400 --> 01:44:00,240
Speaker 1: of a lot of stuff, you know, financial, and I

1901
01:44:00,240 --> 01:44:02,040
Speaker 1: have to give him. This is one of the most

1902
01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:05,920
Speaker 1: straight shooting, straight talking motherfucker's I've ever encountered. Let me

1903
01:44:05,960 --> 01:44:09,800
Speaker 1: tell you because because I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna

1904
01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:12,559
Speaker 1: tell you about the motherfucker this, This motherfucker right here,

1905
01:44:12,800 --> 01:44:15,800
Speaker 1: he can chew my ass out and in the next

1906
01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:19,120
Speaker 1: second take me to go iramen noodles. You know what

1907
01:44:19,160 --> 01:44:21,240
Speaker 1: I mean. There's no hard feelings, you know, and I

1908
01:44:21,280 --> 01:44:23,960
Speaker 1: love that because that's just what we're used to, you know,

1909
01:44:24,120 --> 01:44:26,280
Speaker 1: and you you don't. You don't see that out in

1910
01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:29,680
Speaker 1: the civilian sector. You see everyone, for the lack of

1911
01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:34,320
Speaker 1: better term, pussyfooting around certain subjects when it's really a

1912
01:44:34,360 --> 01:44:37,280
Speaker 1: waste of time, and you know, just get to the point.

1913
01:44:37,600 --> 01:44:39,280
Speaker 1: And this is him, This is who he is. You know.

1914
01:44:39,280 --> 01:44:42,280
Speaker 1: It's such a refreshing person to be around in New York.

1915
01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:45,400
Speaker 1: Believe it or not. Well, there, it's funny that you

1916
01:44:45,479 --> 01:44:49,960
Speaker 1: bring that situation. We had an agreement. I expect him

1917
01:44:49,960 --> 01:44:51,559
Speaker 1: to do certain things. There was a couple of things

1918
01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:54,120
Speaker 1: I didn't agree with, so I explained it to him

1919
01:44:54,240 --> 01:44:56,800
Speaker 1: what the deal was, and that's it, and it's it's

1920
01:44:56,800 --> 01:44:59,840
Speaker 1: always been my philosophy. We can either shake hands and

1921
01:44:59,840 --> 01:45:01,920
Speaker 1: get it done, or we can't. That's fine. I'm not

1922
01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:05,000
Speaker 1: personally invested in it either way. If we can do it, great,

1923
01:45:05,040 --> 01:45:07,880
Speaker 1: If we can't, that's great too. You know, there's life.

1924
01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:10,680
Speaker 1: Life's too fucking short, exactly. I think that's the only

1925
01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:13,240
Speaker 1: way it needs to be. If your your your ultimate

1926
01:45:13,320 --> 01:45:16,920
Speaker 1: goal is the mission or getting the job done. Anything

1927
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:19,840
Speaker 1: else is just a waste of time. Just what needs

1928
01:45:19,840 --> 01:45:22,040
Speaker 1: to be done. Here you go, got it cool? All right,

1929
01:45:22,240 --> 01:45:24,920
Speaker 1: aside from the fact kind of sucking reminew it as

1930
01:45:24,920 --> 01:45:27,840
Speaker 1: you want. Now, businesses, let's do what we're here to do.

1931
01:45:28,360 --> 01:45:30,040
Speaker 1: A lot of people get convinced they need to fill

1932
01:45:30,120 --> 01:45:33,960
Speaker 1: up that empty time with words. You know, it's it's

1933
01:45:33,960 --> 01:45:36,559
Speaker 1: okay to be quiet. This is what I need to say.

1934
01:45:36,600 --> 01:45:39,799
Speaker 1: We're going to cover this. Then we're done. Well, Steve,

1935
01:45:40,040 --> 01:45:42,000
Speaker 1: from what I know, you know and i've seen you

1936
01:45:42,160 --> 01:45:45,439
Speaker 1: coming the studio, but you know we've gotten for like

1937
01:45:45,479 --> 01:45:48,120
Speaker 1: the whole thing. But but you're a pretty low key

1938
01:45:48,160 --> 01:45:51,960
Speaker 1: guy at the same time, like running this super successful business,

1939
01:45:52,080 --> 01:45:54,840
Speaker 1: which I know alone from seeing the skyline of your

1940
01:45:54,840 --> 01:45:58,479
Speaker 1: apartment was badass views I've ever seen, well, I've I've

1941
01:45:58,520 --> 01:46:02,120
Speaker 1: been incredibly lucky. And it's never luck though, is it.

1942
01:46:02,160 --> 01:46:04,760
Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard work, it's's of course, you gotta

1943
01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:07,400
Speaker 1: put the time in, but the reality is you gotta

1944
01:46:07,720 --> 01:46:11,519
Speaker 1: get there, man, and if you're not willing to do

1945
01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:13,760
Speaker 1: what it takes, it's a lot easier to be lucky

1946
01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:16,400
Speaker 1: if you're prepared. So I stay lucky because I don't

1947
01:46:16,439 --> 01:46:19,160
Speaker 1: want to sound like some fucking egomaniac, because you know

1948
01:46:19,240 --> 01:46:22,599
Speaker 1: there's a there's enough of those, but from your community

1949
01:46:22,680 --> 01:46:25,479
Speaker 1: or every every community, everybody, because I feel like Steve

1950
01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:27,920
Speaker 1: is pretty humble for you know, people always see the

1951
01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:30,439
Speaker 1: Seal community like they all have giant egos. I don't

1952
01:46:30,439 --> 01:46:32,679
Speaker 1: see you that way. Well, man, I've I've been nowhere

1953
01:46:32,720 --> 01:46:36,920
Speaker 1: and I've done nothing, so is uh. The reality is everybody,

1954
01:46:36,960 --> 01:46:40,439
Speaker 1: everybody did their fair share, and that's you know, that's

1955
01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:43,960
Speaker 1: that's as far as that deal goes. But the I'm

1956
01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:46,360
Speaker 1: willing to put the time in, I'm willing to be uncomfortable,

1957
01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:48,000
Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, I'm willing to

1958
01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:52,280
Speaker 1: have uncomfortable conversations with some fucking hyper aggressive alpha males,

1959
01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:56,640
Speaker 1: and I've participated in I've been lucky enough to participate

1960
01:46:56,680 --> 01:46:59,080
Speaker 1: in some contracts and and work with some people and

1961
01:47:00,320 --> 01:47:05,519
Speaker 1: some skills that aren't aren't necessarily mainstream, but I have

1962
01:47:05,720 --> 01:47:09,080
Speaker 1: had the unique opportunity to have a bunch of uncomfortable

1963
01:47:09,080 --> 01:47:13,800
Speaker 1: conversations with some pretty high caliber individuals. And I think

1964
01:47:13,840 --> 01:47:16,320
Speaker 1: that's what it comes down to, being willing to be

1965
01:47:16,439 --> 01:47:19,000
Speaker 1: uncomfortable and you know what, you don't have to fucking

1966
01:47:19,040 --> 01:47:22,040
Speaker 1: like me, but you're gonna do what I say. You're

1967
01:47:22,080 --> 01:47:24,879
Speaker 1: gonna get the funk out of here. It's really that easy.

1968
01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:28,360
Speaker 1: I think that's a message that, probably more so now

1969
01:47:28,400 --> 01:47:32,040
Speaker 1: than ever, needs to be heard because I just don't

1970
01:47:32,120 --> 01:47:34,880
Speaker 1: see that in the younger generations. Everyone is just so

1971
01:47:35,760 --> 01:47:39,559
Speaker 1: hyper sensitive. Well, we quit fucking beating our kids, But

1972
01:47:39,680 --> 01:47:42,040
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not talking about physical beings, you know,

1973
01:47:42,439 --> 01:47:44,760
Speaker 1: but you know, holding them accountable to their actions. Right,

1974
01:47:44,760 --> 01:47:46,599
Speaker 1: you're gonna say, funk when you're seven, You're gonna get

1975
01:47:46,600 --> 01:47:48,519
Speaker 1: your mouth washed out with self. You're gonna pull your sister,

1976
01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:50,680
Speaker 1: say you're gonna get your ask beat. I mean not

1977
01:47:50,720 --> 01:47:52,479
Speaker 1: a beating beating, but you know, a smack with a

1978
01:47:52,520 --> 01:47:54,960
Speaker 1: wooden spoon or whatever it is, and when when that

1979
01:47:55,000 --> 01:47:57,400
Speaker 1: went away, I think it did a solid disservice because

1980
01:47:57,439 --> 01:48:01,639
Speaker 1: there's no accountability, there's no response instability. It's it's everybody

1981
01:48:01,640 --> 01:48:05,800
Speaker 1: else's fault for everything, and everybody's convinced they're fucking fragile,

1982
01:48:05,920 --> 01:48:10,680
Speaker 1: fucking porcelain snowflake. That's nonsense. You know. That's when I'm

1983
01:48:10,720 --> 01:48:14,280
Speaker 1: when I'm working with guys whatever capacity. I asked him,

1984
01:48:14,280 --> 01:48:15,920
Speaker 1: have you ever been in a fucking fist fight? Have

1985
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:18,519
Speaker 1: ever been punched in the face? And they look at

1986
01:48:18,600 --> 01:48:20,400
Speaker 1: me like a dog looking at the ceiling fan, you know,

1987
01:48:20,439 --> 01:48:23,080
Speaker 1: their heads fucking sideways, And I'm like, because if you

1988
01:48:23,120 --> 01:48:27,000
Speaker 1: haven't been in a fight, you don't know what you

1989
01:48:27,040 --> 01:48:30,479
Speaker 1: can withstand. You know, if you get punched in the face. Granted, art,

1990
01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:32,600
Speaker 1: you know you're you're you're ugly for a couple of

1991
01:48:32,680 --> 01:48:36,360
Speaker 1: days whatever, but you realize, you know, this sucks right now,

1992
01:48:36,560 --> 01:48:39,200
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna get through this. And it's the same

1993
01:48:39,240 --> 01:48:41,360
Speaker 1: thing we've We've been fortunate, we've been able to have

1994
01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:48,320
Speaker 1: different but similar special operations experience, but we realize at

1995
01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:50,719
Speaker 1: the at the end of the day, it's all being

1996
01:48:51,640 --> 01:48:54,920
Speaker 1: resilient enough to do whatever it takes. And just fucking

1997
01:48:54,920 --> 01:48:58,439
Speaker 1: showing up, showing up on time with all your ship. Yeah,

1998
01:48:58,479 --> 01:49:03,200
Speaker 1: that's a big thing. Yeah, and everything and everything in life. Absolutely. Yeah.

1999
01:49:03,200 --> 01:49:05,360
Speaker 1: That's why I think, you know a lot of civilians

2000
01:49:05,640 --> 01:49:08,640
Speaker 1: read books by Navy seals and former military because you

2001
01:49:08,640 --> 01:49:11,400
Speaker 1: could take those lessons into your everyday life. Whether you're

2002
01:49:11,400 --> 01:49:14,960
Speaker 1: an accountant or real estate agent, doesn't matter what you're doing.

2003
01:49:15,560 --> 01:49:19,880
Speaker 1: Um yeah, absolutely. Um. So should we dig into this

2004
01:49:20,040 --> 01:49:23,519
Speaker 1: article about Green Beret Logan Melbourne. I mean, it makes

2005
01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:27,400
Speaker 1: sense to have you here because he's allegedly been murdered

2006
01:49:27,400 --> 01:49:29,439
Speaker 1: by two Navy seals, and you know, I'd love to

2007
01:49:29,479 --> 01:49:32,280
Speaker 1: hear your take on it. Um. We've been talking about

2008
01:49:32,280 --> 01:49:34,960
Speaker 1: a Jason and I the past few shows, but this

2009
01:49:35,120 --> 01:49:38,000
Speaker 1: article from the Daily Beast definitely like dug a little

2010
01:49:38,040 --> 01:49:40,479
Speaker 1: deeper on the issue. Um, So I'll read a little

2011
01:49:40,479 --> 01:49:43,759
Speaker 1: bit from it. H the articles green Beret discovered, Seals

2012
01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:47,559
Speaker 1: alictit cash than he was killed, Logan Melger hadn't had

2013
01:49:47,600 --> 01:49:50,479
Speaker 1: a drink on June four. The Green Beret sergeant's dry

2014
01:49:50,600 --> 01:49:53,439
Speaker 1: day became a key to unraveling the narratives spun by

2015
01:49:53,439 --> 01:49:58,280
Speaker 1: the elite Navy commandos who military investigators now suspect killed them.

2016
01:49:58,280 --> 01:50:01,879
Speaker 1: Officials familiar with the case said, Melger, a staff sergeant

2017
01:50:01,880 --> 01:50:05,400
Speaker 1: in the Army's third Special Forces Group, was specifically selected

2018
01:50:05,439 --> 01:50:09,400
Speaker 1: for an intelligence operation in the West African nation of Molly.

2019
01:50:09,800 --> 01:50:12,559
Speaker 1: He was well respected by the American embassy staff and

2020
01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:17,120
Speaker 1: the partner forces there, a former US Africa Command officials said,

2021
01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:20,200
Speaker 1: But shortly before he died, Melger told his wife that

2022
01:50:20,240 --> 01:50:22,360
Speaker 1: he had a bad feeling about two of his partners

2023
01:50:22,360 --> 01:50:24,800
Speaker 1: in that effort, both of whom were members of Seal

2024
01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:28,120
Speaker 1: Team six. Not wanting to say much more, Melger informed

2025
01:50:28,120 --> 01:50:30,519
Speaker 1: his wife, Michelle, that he tell her the full story

2026
01:50:30,520 --> 01:50:33,200
Speaker 1: when he got back home. According to an official speaking

2027
01:50:33,240 --> 01:50:36,760
Speaker 1: on the condition of anonymity, because the investigation is still

2028
01:50:36,800 --> 01:50:41,200
Speaker 1: ongoing now, those two Navy seals are under investigation for

2029
01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:45,160
Speaker 1: killing Melger, an investigation first reported by The New York Times,

2030
01:50:45,160 --> 01:50:49,400
Speaker 1: sending shock waves throughout the special operations community. Military experts

2031
01:50:49,400 --> 01:50:51,839
Speaker 1: were hard pressed to think of another case where elite

2032
01:50:51,920 --> 01:50:54,640
Speaker 1: U S troops turned on one another. This account is

2033
01:50:54,680 --> 01:50:58,320
Speaker 1: based on five members of the special operations community who

2034
01:50:58,320 --> 01:51:01,679
Speaker 1: were not cleared to speak public. Representatives of both US

2035
01:51:01,800 --> 01:51:06,120
Speaker 1: Africa Command AFRICAM and the U S Special Operations Command,

2036
01:51:06,240 --> 01:51:10,479
Speaker 1: so CALM declined for this story, as the Naval Criminal

2037
01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:14,640
Speaker 1: Investigative Services and c i S has an active investigation

2038
01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:17,320
Speaker 1: into Melger's doubt death. N c i S would not

2039
01:51:17,439 --> 01:51:21,160
Speaker 1: comment beyond confirming the investigation is underway, and then it

2040
01:51:21,200 --> 01:51:24,280
Speaker 1: goes on say it is unknown what specifically started the

2041
01:51:24,360 --> 01:51:28,040
Speaker 1: June fourth altercation at five am, but it escalated. Melgur

2042
01:51:28,160 --> 01:51:32,120
Speaker 1: lost consciousness and worst stopped breathing. The seals attempted to

2043
01:51:32,160 --> 01:51:35,400
Speaker 1: open an airway into Melgur's throat. Officials said it is

2044
01:51:35,479 --> 01:51:39,080
Speaker 1: unknown whether Melgur died immediately. The Seals, in another Green beret,

2045
01:51:39,120 --> 01:51:42,840
Speaker 1: according to former African officials, drove to a nearby French

2046
01:51:42,880 --> 01:51:45,720
Speaker 1: clinics seeking help. Melgur was dead when he arrived at

2047
01:51:45,720 --> 01:51:50,360
Speaker 1: the clinic. The officials said asphyxiation was the cause of death. Um,

2048
01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:52,000
Speaker 1: and you know, one of the quotes here is it

2049
01:51:52,040 --> 01:51:54,200
Speaker 1: was the worst excuse the Seals could have made up.

2050
01:51:54,240 --> 01:51:57,599
Speaker 1: The autopsy reports said no drugs or alcohol were found

2051
01:51:57,640 --> 01:52:00,080
Speaker 1: in Melgur's system, which is what they originally said. So,

2052
01:52:00,120 --> 01:52:02,040
Speaker 1: I mean, just going through the whole article, looks like

2053
01:52:02,120 --> 01:52:05,080
Speaker 1: there was some illegal activity going on in Seal Team six,

2054
01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:08,439
Speaker 1: which has been speculated on for a long time. The

2055
01:52:08,479 --> 01:52:11,320
Speaker 1: rest of the article goes on to UM state the

2056
01:52:11,520 --> 01:52:16,240
Speaker 1: purpose for that UM program or the program that they

2057
01:52:16,240 --> 01:52:21,800
Speaker 1: were a part of in Molly, was to pay out informants.

2058
01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:25,160
Speaker 1: So they were in charge of these large sums of cash.

2059
01:52:25,200 --> 01:52:27,880
Speaker 1: So that's why that that the possibility for this to

2060
01:52:28,160 --> 01:52:31,880
Speaker 1: you know, be of substance is there, because that's they're

2061
01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:34,320
Speaker 1: the ones who had direct control of the money. And

2062
01:52:34,360 --> 01:52:36,479
Speaker 1: from what I saw in the article, because I'm just

2063
01:52:36,520 --> 01:52:40,040
Speaker 1: shifting through it, they said they'd allow Melger to get

2064
01:52:40,120 --> 01:52:42,840
Speaker 1: in on this. He declined, offered him and then it

2065
01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:44,639
Speaker 1: almost sounded like he was going to wrap them out

2066
01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:46,559
Speaker 1: and because he thought what they were doing was wrong,

2067
01:52:47,320 --> 01:52:49,920
Speaker 1: and it led to this. So once again, I just

2068
01:52:49,960 --> 01:52:52,360
Speaker 1: want to say, so far at this point, this is

2069
01:52:52,439 --> 01:52:57,080
Speaker 1: just speculation. Once again, this is just a possible account

2070
01:52:57,280 --> 01:53:00,839
Speaker 1: of the story. But through you know, the Corners report

2071
01:53:01,200 --> 01:53:04,519
Speaker 1: stating that there was no alcohol or drugs in his

2072
01:53:04,600 --> 01:53:07,200
Speaker 1: system at the time, you know, that brings up a

2073
01:53:07,240 --> 01:53:09,679
Speaker 1: lot of questions, enough so that the officer in charge

2074
01:53:09,680 --> 01:53:12,559
Speaker 1: of the investigation decided to look into a criminal matter,

2075
01:53:12,840 --> 01:53:16,599
Speaker 1: and enough to say that the Seals story was bulls. Yes,

2076
01:53:16,680 --> 01:53:18,559
Speaker 1: because then you know who's going to be a part

2077
01:53:18,600 --> 01:53:21,280
Speaker 1: of the grab bassary when you know you're sober. But

2078
01:53:21,320 --> 01:53:24,920
Speaker 1: then again, we've done it everybody, every everybody. Somebody starts

2079
01:53:24,960 --> 01:53:28,439
Speaker 1: talking some nonsense, somebody's got more time rolling in the

2080
01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:32,639
Speaker 1: gym than somebody else. Fucking Ernie pushes Bert, Bert pushes

2081
01:53:32,800 --> 01:53:35,439
Speaker 1: Ernie and temperates flare And I don't want to make

2082
01:53:35,520 --> 01:53:38,519
Speaker 1: like a guy died. You know, we're getting a tricky

2083
01:53:38,600 --> 01:53:42,920
Speaker 1: otomy done on him drunk by someone drunk. I don't

2084
01:53:43,120 --> 01:53:47,639
Speaker 1: kill you, nhl US arrested fucking rasonably opening anyway, who's

2085
01:53:47,640 --> 01:53:52,000
Speaker 1: got a big who wrote that? This is? This is

2086
01:53:52,040 --> 01:53:55,280
Speaker 1: from um Daily Beast, but I could I could pull

2087
01:53:55,320 --> 01:53:57,760
Speaker 1: it up on here. UM. I know that we've been

2088
01:53:57,760 --> 01:54:00,160
Speaker 1: writing some stuff at soccer, but that was a big one.

2089
01:54:00,439 --> 01:54:05,400
Speaker 1: And it is written by Kevin Mauer and Spencer Ackerman,

2090
01:54:05,560 --> 01:54:08,400
Speaker 1: so it's two different authors on that right. I'd like

2091
01:54:08,439 --> 01:54:11,120
Speaker 1: to see what their journalism background is, and not that

2092
01:54:11,640 --> 01:54:16,720
Speaker 1: they're not capable, it's just it's been my experience when

2093
01:54:16,760 --> 01:54:20,720
Speaker 1: we get a flash media like this, it's who knows

2094
01:54:20,760 --> 01:54:22,960
Speaker 1: what really went down and who knows where they got

2095
01:54:22,960 --> 01:54:25,639
Speaker 1: their facts. I'd like to think that they did. They

2096
01:54:25,680 --> 01:54:29,519
Speaker 1: did all the research, that they checked all the leads,

2097
01:54:29,560 --> 01:54:31,639
Speaker 1: that they made sure that they weren't putting a bunch

2098
01:54:31,680 --> 01:54:34,520
Speaker 1: of nonsense out there. But especially now this time and

2099
01:54:35,200 --> 01:54:37,440
Speaker 1: fake news and everything else going on, we we just

2100
01:54:37,480 --> 01:54:41,600
Speaker 1: don't know. It's it's terrible that that guy was killed. Absolutely,

2101
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:46,600
Speaker 1: However I wasn't there obviously, But are these guys in

2102
01:54:46,720 --> 01:54:49,000
Speaker 1: charge of large quantities of cash to pay off and

2103
01:54:49,400 --> 01:54:51,720
Speaker 1: informants or blood money or whatever is going down? Of

2104
01:54:51,760 --> 01:54:54,640
Speaker 1: course they are. What about you know because we have

2105
01:54:54,760 --> 01:54:57,120
Speaker 1: heard about it on the podcast before from guys. There

2106
01:54:57,200 --> 01:54:58,840
Speaker 1: was that huge article in the New York Times of

2107
01:54:59,000 --> 01:55:02,480
Speaker 1: just like really crazy activity going on at Sale Team

2108
01:55:02,520 --> 01:55:08,320
Speaker 1: six specifically. I I'm not proving to any of that information. However,

2109
01:55:08,920 --> 01:55:11,760
Speaker 1: you've got to take into account these guys spend lots

2110
01:55:11,760 --> 01:55:15,120
Speaker 1: and lots of time turned on. They're they're kicking doors

2111
01:55:15,120 --> 01:55:17,440
Speaker 1: in or shooting bad guys in the face. They live

2112
01:55:17,480 --> 01:55:20,960
Speaker 1: in a reality that we just can't comprehend. And whether

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01:55:21,040 --> 01:55:25,840
Speaker 1: or not they were using performance enhancing drugs or whether

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01:55:26,520 --> 01:55:32,560
Speaker 1: they're being prescribed by the the eighteen Delta go and

2115
01:55:32,560 --> 01:55:36,240
Speaker 1: No Go pills, whether they're participating in an activity to

2116
01:55:36,320 --> 01:55:39,400
Speaker 1: keep their general and levels up. Who knows, but you

2117
01:55:39,440 --> 01:55:43,960
Speaker 1: can't hold that person to the same standard that we

2118
01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:47,160
Speaker 1: hold your normal citizen too, because it's not the same thing.

2119
01:55:47,160 --> 01:55:49,920
Speaker 1: We're talking about apples and oranges. We're asking these people

2120
01:55:49,960 --> 01:55:52,640
Speaker 1: to go do the fucking dirtiest ship you can imagine

2121
01:55:53,200 --> 01:55:55,960
Speaker 1: so we can continue to experience life the way experience it.

2122
01:55:56,440 --> 01:56:00,080
Speaker 1: We've had what three terrorists part of me four or

2123
01:56:00,160 --> 01:56:03,800
Speaker 1: terrorist attacks in the last seventeen years because these fucking hard, dick,

2124
01:56:03,880 --> 01:56:06,840
Speaker 1: fucking dragon slayers are doing the deal every single day,

2125
01:56:06,880 --> 01:56:10,160
Speaker 1: and we and we think that we can get our

2126
01:56:10,200 --> 01:56:12,600
Speaker 1: brain wrapped around what these guys are experiencing. That's just

2127
01:56:12,920 --> 01:56:16,800
Speaker 1: that's just nonsense. That's just the falsehood. It's we're we're

2128
01:56:16,840 --> 01:56:19,480
Speaker 1: not capable of ESPEC because we're not there. Especially, guys

2129
01:56:19,480 --> 01:56:22,200
Speaker 1: have been operating for so long. You know, these guys

2130
01:56:22,200 --> 01:56:25,240
Speaker 1: in these Tier one groups many they're not subjected to

2131
01:56:25,360 --> 01:56:29,800
Speaker 1: being moved around by some monitor, some administrative personnel within

2132
01:56:29,880 --> 01:56:32,400
Speaker 1: their deal deal. What they don't they don't answer to them.

2133
01:56:32,440 --> 01:56:35,760
Speaker 1: They answered directly to the Pentagon and the President, and

2134
01:56:35,840 --> 01:56:37,760
Speaker 1: they stay in the communities for a while. We talked

2135
01:56:37,800 --> 01:56:40,760
Speaker 1: about this last time, like why would you leave? Why

2136
01:56:40,760 --> 01:56:43,480
Speaker 1: would you leave? But then again that that's years of

2137
01:56:43,640 --> 01:56:48,120
Speaker 1: that or everything they've done, just harbord and harness inside.

2138
01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:50,880
Speaker 1: I mean, and even then that the toll that their

2139
01:56:50,920 --> 01:56:53,680
Speaker 1: body takes as well, so to to to say that

2140
01:56:53,720 --> 01:56:57,120
Speaker 1: they're using and performance enhancing drugs and I think you

2141
01:56:57,160 --> 01:57:00,560
Speaker 1: know other things is you're not saying nothing, really are not.

2142
01:57:00,680 --> 01:57:02,959
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think it's even possible to continue

2143
01:57:02,960 --> 01:57:05,440
Speaker 1: on in that life for so long and not have

2144
01:57:05,560 --> 01:57:08,840
Speaker 1: some form of help. Um that being said, these individuals

2145
01:57:08,920 --> 01:57:10,880
Speaker 1: still go out there day in the day out and perform,

2146
01:57:11,000 --> 01:57:14,240
Speaker 1: like he said, the ugly jobs that need to get done,

2147
01:57:14,280 --> 01:57:16,080
Speaker 1: all right, these are the guys that do the ugly

2148
01:57:16,200 --> 01:57:18,720
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what has to happen, because there there

2149
01:57:18,800 --> 01:57:20,400
Speaker 1: is ugly out there in the world. There are wolves

2150
01:57:20,400 --> 01:57:22,120
Speaker 1: out there in the world. You know, we got other

2151
01:57:22,200 --> 01:57:25,720
Speaker 1: nations trying to circumvent our security, and you know we've

2152
01:57:25,720 --> 01:57:27,960
Speaker 1: got people running over kids on bike pass here look

2153
01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:30,160
Speaker 1: at that, and that motherfucker was running around the streets

2154
01:57:30,160 --> 01:57:32,680
Speaker 1: and nobody ran his ass over. You can how to

2155
01:57:32,720 --> 01:57:34,720
Speaker 1: cut his fucking face off. And Warner as a funcking

2156
01:57:35,360 --> 01:57:38,960
Speaker 1: fun that guy. Yeah, yeah, And you know, and what

2157
01:57:39,040 --> 01:57:41,120
Speaker 1: I want to say is to me and where I

2158
01:57:41,160 --> 01:57:44,160
Speaker 1: come from, is okay. If this is in fact what

2159
01:57:44,280 --> 01:57:48,960
Speaker 1: these two individuals, that this was something close to what

2160
01:57:49,080 --> 01:57:52,320
Speaker 1: happened or reality, then they're gonna have to pay for it.

2161
01:57:52,360 --> 01:57:54,640
Speaker 1: But that's no hit on the rest of the community.

2162
01:57:54,960 --> 01:57:56,800
Speaker 1: You know, these are just two guys that just lost

2163
01:57:56,800 --> 01:57:59,200
Speaker 1: their way, you know, and they're gonna get to the

2164
01:57:59,200 --> 01:58:01,840
Speaker 1: bottom of it. Yeah, definitely, we all we owe it

2165
01:58:01,880 --> 01:58:04,200
Speaker 1: to the slain soldier. We all wayl tell him to

2166
01:58:04,240 --> 01:58:05,920
Speaker 1: get to the bottom of it. And if it was

2167
01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:09,920
Speaker 1: because of some type of misconduct or misdeed that led

2168
01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:13,520
Speaker 1: to this unfortunate event, then you know, these guys will pay,

2169
01:58:13,720 --> 01:58:16,360
Speaker 1: will pay. They'll be making big rucks in the small

2170
01:58:16,400 --> 01:58:19,680
Speaker 1: rocks and Fort levin ward forever. Do you think sometimes

2171
01:58:19,720 --> 01:58:22,920
Speaker 1: like the animosity between branches gets to the point of

2172
01:58:22,960 --> 01:58:26,080
Speaker 1: like ridiculous sness. I think it's like we enjoy it.

2173
01:58:26,080 --> 01:58:28,400
Speaker 1: It's playful fighting, and we talked it all the time,

2174
01:58:28,440 --> 01:58:30,840
Speaker 1: and when it leads to the death of a guy, possibly,

2175
01:58:31,120 --> 01:58:32,680
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think. I don't think it has

2176
01:58:32,720 --> 01:58:36,920
Speaker 1: anything to do with that kind of messing around differences

2177
01:58:36,960 --> 01:58:40,360
Speaker 1: and it's a different thing altogether. Guys. Guys are going

2178
01:58:40,400 --> 01:58:42,480
Speaker 1: to talk ship because if you're not talking ship, you're

2179
01:58:42,520 --> 01:58:44,600
Speaker 1: fucking gay, Like, what's the point. It's not in a

2180
01:58:44,640 --> 01:58:47,000
Speaker 1: good way, I mean, what's the point. Yeah, you're not

2181
01:58:47,000 --> 01:58:50,680
Speaker 1: getting a way that pleasures. Just you're not getting like

2182
01:58:50,800 --> 01:58:54,120
Speaker 1: the fucking interior design and you know, the cooking way

2183
01:58:54,160 --> 01:58:59,480
Speaker 1: and the Jethrow total fucking act a long way, you know,

2184
01:59:00,040 --> 01:59:06,480
Speaker 1: the you're the least past um, you know, but that

2185
01:59:06,520 --> 01:59:08,879
Speaker 1: means that we we don't go around and just sucking

2186
01:59:09,720 --> 01:59:12,240
Speaker 1: look to actively beat the ship out of somebody else

2187
01:59:12,240 --> 01:59:15,280
Speaker 1: in another department. That's not It's just it's like you're

2188
01:59:15,320 --> 01:59:18,800
Speaker 1: not playing street ball if you're not talking ship, well exactly.

2189
01:59:18,840 --> 01:59:21,920
Speaker 1: You know. The reality is all these guys have specialties

2190
01:59:21,960 --> 01:59:24,320
Speaker 1: that they're just absolutely the best that on the planet

2191
01:59:24,720 --> 01:59:29,840
Speaker 1: and that inner service. It's it's more camaraderie than anything

2192
01:59:29,880 --> 01:59:32,800
Speaker 1: else from my experience. Now, granted the people getting fights.

2193
01:59:32,800 --> 01:59:35,800
Speaker 1: Of course, you have personality clashes that happens, but as

2194
01:59:35,840 --> 01:59:39,520
Speaker 1: far as real animosity, I don't think so, it hasn't

2195
01:59:39,560 --> 01:59:43,320
Speaker 1: been my experience. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing where

2196
01:59:43,320 --> 01:59:45,440
Speaker 1: this leads to, you know, and if it's a dead

2197
01:59:45,520 --> 01:59:47,120
Speaker 1: ends to dead end, and like I said, I mean

2198
01:59:47,400 --> 01:59:49,640
Speaker 1: it's it's not far fetched that it was still a

2199
01:59:49,680 --> 01:59:52,080
Speaker 1: fund up game of grab bass. But then again, like

2200
01:59:52,120 --> 01:59:54,120
Speaker 1: you said, yes, we owe it to get to the

2201
01:59:54,120 --> 01:59:56,880
Speaker 1: bottom of it, you know, And and if what the

2202
01:59:56,920 --> 01:59:59,160
Speaker 1: wife is saying is true and all, like I said,

2203
01:59:59,520 --> 02:00:02,000
Speaker 1: it deserves the second look, well, we owe it's not

2204
02:00:02,160 --> 02:00:04,520
Speaker 1: just to the people immediately affected, we owe it to

2205
02:00:04,520 --> 02:00:06,640
Speaker 1: our fucking great nation. This is this is the best

2206
02:00:06,680 --> 02:00:09,440
Speaker 1: of the best here. And if that's really what happened,

2207
02:00:09,440 --> 02:00:11,960
Speaker 1: and these guys they snapped, and then they need to

2208
02:00:11,960 --> 02:00:16,680
Speaker 1: be severely punished for it. But that it's the reason

2209
02:00:16,800 --> 02:00:19,760
Speaker 1: it grew legs and it got so huge, is because

2210
02:00:19,760 --> 02:00:21,960
Speaker 1: it's it's you know, Seal Team six, and it's a

2211
02:00:22,120 --> 02:00:24,680
Speaker 1: it's a green beret, and it's the pointy end of

2212
02:00:24,720 --> 02:00:27,240
Speaker 1: the spear, and these guys are downrange all the time.

2213
02:00:27,280 --> 02:00:30,520
Speaker 1: And now it's what I don't want to see is

2214
02:00:30,680 --> 02:00:33,640
Speaker 1: a knee jerk reaction to this. You know how it

2215
02:00:33,800 --> 02:00:38,120
Speaker 1: happens so often in in the government in general, that

2216
02:00:38,280 --> 02:00:41,000
Speaker 1: things are put in place to mitigate this after the fact.

2217
02:00:41,200 --> 02:00:43,760
Speaker 1: I still don't think these gentlemen deserve that type of

2218
02:00:43,800 --> 02:00:46,840
Speaker 1: micromanagement oversight. They need to be allowed to do what

2219
02:00:46,880 --> 02:00:51,000
Speaker 1: they gotta do and exactly. And as as you know,

2220
02:00:52,400 --> 02:00:56,839
Speaker 1: war evolves, just like everything. Language evolves, technology evolves, war evolves.

2221
02:00:57,000 --> 02:01:00,440
Speaker 1: So if you if anybody thinks that micromanaging the guys

2222
02:01:00,480 --> 02:01:02,560
Speaker 1: that are actually in that business all day, every day

2223
02:01:02,640 --> 02:01:04,880
Speaker 1: is the answer, then they're foolish and we're going to

2224
02:01:04,960 --> 02:01:08,640
Speaker 1: lose some fights. And I don't think we will lose fights.

2225
02:01:08,640 --> 02:01:13,720
Speaker 1: I think with our our current president and our current structure,

2226
02:01:14,480 --> 02:01:17,040
Speaker 1: I think the rest of the planet is realizing, you know,

2227
02:01:17,080 --> 02:01:19,080
Speaker 1: this might be a bad decision with the United States.

2228
02:01:19,160 --> 02:01:23,560
Speaker 1: You know, granted, whatever gets tweeted or whatever happens in

2229
02:01:23,600 --> 02:01:26,160
Speaker 1: a periphery, the reality is we still go to war

2230
02:01:26,800 --> 02:01:28,840
Speaker 1: and we're still the vest you're going. I think it

2231
02:01:28,920 --> 02:01:31,560
Speaker 1: was Tony Blair who said he judges a country by

2232
02:01:31,560 --> 02:01:33,360
Speaker 1: the amount of people trying to get in and the

2233
02:01:33,400 --> 02:01:36,880
Speaker 1: amount of people trying to get out, and America still wins.

2234
02:01:36,960 --> 02:01:41,200
Speaker 1: Very true. Well, I mean we're we're I thinking about

2235
02:01:41,240 --> 02:01:43,400
Speaker 1: the two hour market. But we're gonna have him on again,

2236
02:01:43,400 --> 02:01:47,160
Speaker 1: and we're gonna have Steve back on for sure, motherfucker

2237
02:01:47,640 --> 02:01:55,320
Speaker 1: ever time. No, we'll have you back. So yeah, it's

2238
02:01:55,360 --> 02:01:56,920
Speaker 1: just a you know, a couple of weeks away, we'll

2239
02:01:56,920 --> 02:01:59,520
Speaker 1: do a full show. I'm looking forward to it. Um

2240
02:01:59,640 --> 02:02:01,560
Speaker 1: before we get out of here, anything that you're plugging

2241
02:02:01,600 --> 02:02:04,880
Speaker 1: your business, you want to get out there. You're not

2242
02:02:04,920 --> 02:02:06,640
Speaker 1: on social media or any of that other than your

2243
02:02:06,640 --> 02:02:12,200
Speaker 1: own person stuff. What would The reality is, I have

2244
02:02:12,640 --> 02:02:15,520
Speaker 1: some pretty high end clients and I not to be

2245
02:02:15,680 --> 02:02:19,200
Speaker 1: a fucking asshole and not to orally inflate myself, but

2246
02:02:19,360 --> 02:02:21,560
Speaker 1: it's it's all word of mouth and the people that

2247
02:02:21,760 --> 02:02:24,640
Speaker 1: need me find me. So Steve is proving like not

2248
02:02:24,720 --> 02:02:29,920
Speaker 1: all Navy seals want to write books, and if it

2249
02:02:29,960 --> 02:02:34,560
Speaker 1: would be, it would be pornographic. If you did, hey,

2250
02:02:34,600 --> 02:02:37,680
Speaker 1: people would probably dig that many. There was a Navy

2251
02:02:37,720 --> 02:02:40,360
Speaker 1: seal horn star remember that coming out? Yeah, but he

2252
02:02:40,440 --> 02:02:42,720
Speaker 1: was He was hung like a cold, wit frightened bull spider.

2253
02:02:44,480 --> 02:02:46,200
Speaker 1: At least that's what I thought when I was banging.

2254
02:02:46,200 --> 02:02:51,800
Speaker 1: I I love it man. Alright, well, wrapping things up here.

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Speaker 1: see you on the website, so I know that I

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Speaker 1: having a yere man imagine this was a episode three.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. I don't know. I don't know.

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