1 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: I think that the term Karen has now morphed, maybe 2 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: into something different. I think that in the beginning, when 3 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: people were calling people Karen's, it was obviously very critical. 4 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: It would be a Karen seemed to be a blonde, 5 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: middle aged woman. She voted for Trump. She was labeled 6 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: to be a racist, and it was really like a 7 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 1: vicious sort of term. And somehow I feel like Karen 8 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: has morphed into being a middle aged woman. It doesn't 9 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: really matter who she voted for. I don't think it 10 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: matters what her religion is anymore, because I think before 11 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: Karen was Christian for some reason, I just don't think 12 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: she was a Jewish woman. And I think that now 13 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: Karen has morphed into a woman who likes to lodge plaints, 14 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: Like if a woman is the person who's staying at hotel, 15 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, can we see another room or Hi, yeah, 16 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: can I get something else on the side, or can 17 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: I talk to your manager? Can I speak to a supervisor? 18 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: What's your term policy? I need a nonrefundable ticket. You know, 19 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: someone who's savvy, slash, annoying and wants to lodge a complaint. 20 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: That's what I feel like. It's morphed into because I 21 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: know that I was saying something and Paul, my fiance, 22 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: said to me, Okay, would you like to lodge a 23 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: complaint to Karen? So that's what Karen's become. And I 24 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: want to actually talk about that because I don't know 25 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: anymore who Karen is. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I never 26 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: knew the definition. I know some people who don't even 27 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: know what a Karen is, meaning, they don't even know 28 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: the term. I've said it to a couple of people 29 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: and they've said, what. So I thought it was like 30 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: really popular vernacular, like a really popular term, and I 31 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: think that maybe that's more on social media, but it's 32 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: not so mainstream, like it's not Karen is not Felicia yet, 33 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: whereas by Felicia, and I know Felicia is very out. 34 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: Felicia is not cool anymore. Felicia's being totally canceled, and 35 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: Karen is in. But I just don't have famous Karen is. 36 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 1: And I can tell you one thing. If Karen were Jewish, 37 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: she's Judy. Judy wants to lodge a complaint. Judy needs 38 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: to talk about no oil, no sauce, steamed broccoli, Send 39 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: it back, my eggs Benedict are not soft enough. My 40 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: burger is not cooked properly. This just doesn't taste right. 41 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 1: The meat is tough. I ordered medium rare, it's medium. 42 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: I would like a refund. I would like to speak 43 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: to your boss. Can I have your boss's name? That's Judy? So, 44 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: Judy is the Jewish Karen? Okay? Why is there no 45 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: male Karen? So? Who's Karen? Bill? Bill, Joe? And what 46 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: Bill and Joe is like? What just like? Is a 47 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:05,399 Speaker 1: man who runs it up the flagpole, golfs and goes 48 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: on phishing trips with his buddies? Is that is that 49 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: Joe feels like Bill Bob? Is it Bob? Or is 50 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: it Bill Bob? Bob is the new Karen? Okay, Bob 51 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: is the male Karen. We have to get his profile down. 52 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: I think he golfs. I think he goes on fishing 53 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: trips his buddies. I think he, you know, likes to 54 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: go out with his bros and his buddies. It doesn't 55 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: say bros, he says buddies. I think he has a 56 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: cozy for his beer. I think he has a lake house. 57 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: I think he loves an excuse to go to a 58 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: Vegas corporate meeting UH sales management trip. I think he 59 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: loves the all you can drink, all inclusive hotel vibe 60 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: at at the bar and sits in the middle of 61 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: the pool and is loud and sing Sweet Caroline in karaoke. 62 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: That's Bob, Eat Bob. Meet Bob has a pair of Oakley's. 63 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: Meet Bob goes on a purely ski trip with his buddies, 64 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: and Meet Bob has Poker night probably right, doesn't Meet 65 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: Bob of Poker Night, and like Meet Bob's wife, Karen 66 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: is drinking chardonnay or rose at four o'clock with the 67 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: girls at the house, spilling the tea. Meet Bob has 68 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 1: sex with his wife three point to five times a 69 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: week and four point oh five times on a vacation. 70 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: What do you all think? What is the audience? Think? 71 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: Always right for you and subscribe And I like hearing 72 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: what you have to say from reading your comments, So 73 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: tell me is the male Karen Bob? This is going 74 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: to be a great one. My guest Today's grand cardon 75 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: New York Times best selling author, speaker, social media influencer, 76 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: and realist state mogul. He is the most famous person 77 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: that you've never heard of. That has so many contacts, 78 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: so many connections, so successful, so charismatic, and he started 79 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: from the bottom and now he has a portfolio of 80 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: assets worth over two billion dollars and trains others on 81 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: how to do the same. Today we talked about how 82 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: to create a business built for longevity. While humility isn't 83 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: a great characteristic, how to overcome fear surrounding money stemming 84 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: from childhood and the broken relationship rule. His energy is 85 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: contagious and I think you're going to love this episode. 86 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: I really did. So. My starter is I didn't know 87 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: whether to drink coffee or take a sedative because you 88 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: have the most energy. So we'll see afterwards what I 89 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: should have taken. So this is Grant Card, doone. Okay. 90 00:05:55,839 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: He is charismatic, he is energetic, He is passionate, driven, hungry, determined, 91 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: alive and doesn't stop. He is a business person. He 92 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: is a real estate mogul. He is a motivational speaker. 93 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: He is a husband, a parent, and he might be 94 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: the most famous celebrity that you've know. He's he's the 95 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: most famous celebrity you've never heard of. Okay, grand Card, 96 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: don't let me let me just say Bethany. I'm a 97 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: huge you know how much I love you. Okay, You're phenomenal. 98 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: Everybody loves Bethany. And number two, number two things I 99 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 1: want to say. It's just the fact that you said 100 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna live like that is a very nice compliment. 101 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: So thank you very much. Yeah, you are. It's it's electricity, 102 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: it's contagious, it's motivating. It makes sense. This podcast is 103 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: specifically and intentionally about started from the bottom hour here 104 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: game change or you're a visionary, you're a maverick. You've 105 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: done it your way. It's been non traditional. You are 106 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: you know, take no prisoners, no no explaining, no complaining, 107 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: no apologies, do it your way. And that's how people 108 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: really can learn because there are so many different ways 109 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: to the Promised Land, and you have your own trajectory, 110 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: and I want to humanize you and crystallize you and 111 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: sort of give people an understanding of who you actually 112 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: are and how you got here. So like, I want 113 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: to understand, first of all, how old are you? If 114 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: you don't mind me asking, I'm sixty three. That's not true. Yeah, 115 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: I was born in I Like, I was just asking. 116 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: It's a throw I swear in my life after you're 117 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: gonna say in your forties, your sixty three, Wow, holy 118 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: sh it. Okay, so that we can go onto this 119 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: placent does smoothies you eat every day later but okay, wow, okay, 120 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: I'll tell you the secret offline. I'll tell you the 121 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: secret one day. Sounds like it's sex, Okay, So we'll 122 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: go back to that later. Um, sex or masturbation. We'll 123 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: do that later. Okay. So grant they're the same thing, 124 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: by the way, okay, with the person you love the most. 125 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: I get it. And you do love yourself, which you should. Okay. 126 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: So where did you grow up and what's your family dynamic? 127 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: Your parents are upgramming your siblings. Yeah, so I grew up. 128 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: I grew up in Late Charles, Louisiana refinery town. So 129 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: you either were a refinery person there and you were 130 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: connected to the unions and did hard labor at the factories, 131 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: uh mostly the gas refineries hard labor, or you did 132 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: some kind of you know, a sales job. So my 133 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: dad died when I was ten years old. He had 134 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: made it firmly into the middle class from poverty. Both 135 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: of my parents were Italian descent. Their parents came over 136 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: My mother's father was born on the ship and never 137 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: had papers to live in the US, and so my 138 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: grandfather my mother's side, never had papers to live in 139 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: the US. So he lived a very dark life, like 140 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: he was under the radar, never had an employment situation, 141 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: probably never paid taxes, so everything was kind of on 142 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: the sly. And then my dad's side completely opposite. They 143 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: were shipbuilders from Naples, Italy. They came in settled in Madisonville, Louisiana, 144 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: and so my dad had this hard that this hard labor, 145 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: do it right, pay the price, work ethic. He's the 146 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: first person who went to college and became a you know, 147 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: life insurance salesman's stock broker, car salesman. He did all 148 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. But he really got into the 149 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: middle class. And at the age of fifty two, um 150 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: with five kids, he died. He died from a heart failure. 151 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: So that left my mom. My mom at the time 152 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: was I guess she was forty eight with five kids. 153 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: She had no this is back in the fifties, housewife. 154 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: You know, she had never earned money herself, never held 155 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: a job herself, and now she had to manage five kids. 156 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: Everything was paid off, the house was paid off, the 157 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 1: cars were paid off. The following week after my dad died, 158 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: my mom was selling the house, dumping everything. I'm ten 159 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: years old, twin brother were the youngest, and we're sitting 160 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: there watching. I'm watching my mom going to terra when 161 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: she should have been grieving because she's unloading stuff. And 162 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: so this became. You know, as I look back fifty 163 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: years back, this is this is what ends up making 164 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: me who I am today. I bet you had or 165 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: you have still have a bit of money noise. You 166 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: knew what it was like to feel scared and desperate 167 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: and not have it. And even if we have a 168 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 1: lot of money, you can have noise like where you're 169 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: moving things around and you've got to do that to 170 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: do this, And you have a lot of real estate, 171 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: You're into a lot of different things. Hey, have you 172 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: ever had any debt that you didn't want and be 173 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: Do you have money noise or noise in any area, 174 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: either family noise or food noise or any of that stuff. Yeah. Sure. 175 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: Between the age of fifteen, I was so angry that 176 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: my dad died, and I was so angry I couldn't 177 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: help my mom. Like I've been wanting to work since 178 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: my dad died. I'm like, I want to take care 179 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: of my mom. And that's been a driving force of mine. 180 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: I was raised by a single mother, Like that's who 181 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: I know. She and I were best friends, and I 182 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: could not help her. I could not get rid of 183 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: her angst. And that is that driver, that thing that 184 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: you see in me, like this guy just not start. 185 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: That's still in me. My mom's passed ten years ago, 186 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 1: but she was my best friend. She took care of me. 187 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: She was the one I went to first when I 188 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: had a success or failure, even as an adult, but 189 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: at the age of fifteen, I was so angry that 190 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: I didn't have a man in my life. Part of 191 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: why I created this foundation was for kids without fathers 192 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: because I wanted a dad. I wanted an uncle, dan, 193 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: a mentor, a coach. I wanted something. Someone dies, you 194 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: feel abandoned them, like they left you. And because Chelsea 195 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: Handler on this show said that when her brother died, 196 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: he said to her he was coming back to Martha's vineyard. 197 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: He was going away for a certain number of weeks 198 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: and he was coming back. He was gonna leave her 199 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: here with these people, meaning her other crazy family, and 200 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: that he never came back, and she was very angry 201 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: about that. Even the professional and logical, but people who 202 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: experienced loss can of relate. Yeah, but it was logical 203 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: for me because it took me two years to realize 204 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: my dad wasn't gonna show up. I was twelve years old, 205 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: and I'm like, he ain't coming back, broke. But then 206 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: I started, when are my uncle's gonna help me out? 207 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: If you've ever heard anybody refer to me as uncle 208 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: G I told this story one time and I said, dude, 209 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: I am going to be the uncle for others, for 210 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: the uncle that wasn't there for me. I had three 211 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 1: uncles and they never showed up for me, and I 212 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 1: don't off about it. So the next person that showed 213 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: up was a drug dealer, and he's like, i'll be 214 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: your coach, I'll be your mentor, I'll be your daddy. 215 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 1: And I'm like, let's go. And I went on a 216 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: ten year binge with drugs. I became a drug addict 217 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: between fifteen and twenty five. I was using drugs every day, 218 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: overdose three times, had eighty stitches put in my head 219 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: and face. Could easily be in prison right now or Dad. 220 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: I had three friends that got killed. I went to treatment. 221 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: Three of them died while I was in treatment, were killed, 222 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: were had bullets put in their heads. So that was 223 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: the life grant card owned thirty years ago. I was 224 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: the black sheep of my family. Nobody trusted me. My 225 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: family didn't trust me, my sisters didn't trust me. Nobody 226 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: wanted anything to do with me. I was the only 227 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: place I could get a job when I came out 228 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: of treatment was a car dealership. And I put my 229 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 1: life together. I quit using drugs. I didn't use any 230 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: more drugs for thirty eight years and never went back 231 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: to the drug thing. I left the treatment center. They said, 232 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: you will definitely be back, and I'm like, why am 233 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: I coming back here? I ain't coming back. And they're like, yeah, 234 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 1: because you want to be famous and you want to 235 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 1: write books, and you want to save the world, and 236 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: you've got these ideas you're gonna be rich and famous. 237 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, dude, I'm gonna do all that ship 238 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 1: And they're like, anybody with that attitude will always come 239 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: back their treatment center. I said, bro, I'll never be 240 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 1: back here. I still remember the guy today, Paul. Paul 241 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: gave me the inspiration of my life saying you will 242 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: be back here, you will be a drug addict for 243 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: the rest of your life. You have a disease, I'm like, 244 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: this ain't a disease. I'm gonna flip this switch. I'm 245 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: gonna use all this energy and I'm gonna take this gift. 246 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: The ability to like be locked in on something than 247 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: to switch the addiction from disease to gift is what 248 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: I've used now for thirty years. Really can propel and 249 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: create everything that well. My partner and relief work is 250 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: Michael Caponi. He built big houses, like big million dollar 251 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: mansions in Miami. After he was a major club promoter 252 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: like Ingrid Caesaris and Madonna. He dated a lot of 253 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: models and he did a lot of drugs and he 254 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: was very addicted. He one day switched. He never went 255 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: to a meeting, he just flipped the switch. And he's 256 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: been to Haiti like sixty times. We've been all over 257 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: the world from the Bahamas. We've done a hundred million 258 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: dollars of relief in three years. He flipped it to 259 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: something else. Doesn't mean that that isn't like being addicted 260 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: to aid or something else, but good. I mean, you know, 261 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: what I mean, he's also spiritual. So that's a fascinating 262 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: if that's been channeling. Because a person, I guess an 263 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: addict has such energy and passion and drive for that, 264 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: they've got to get it, They've got to have it, 265 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: they have to do it. They wanted their singular focus. 266 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: If you can take that sort of addiction and the 267 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: singular focus on something else, it makes sense. Everybody has 268 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: the ability to be hooked into something to where you 269 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: lose sleep. Everybody's done it. When you fall in love, 270 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: you go to this. You don't need to eat, you 271 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: don't need to sleep, You just want to have sex 272 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: and fall into this person's face over and over again. 273 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: Bad breath is good breath, and you can't get enough 274 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: of it. Please sweat on me like you like sucking 275 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: into this, immersed into this universe where you forget everything else. 276 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: There is nothing wrong with that. Unfortunately, in our culture today, 277 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: anybody that goes all in on anything is somehow labeled sick, diseased, codependent, obsessive, compulsive. 278 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: I've been called O, D, D, A, C D, every 279 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: every like, every little acronym qute acronym in the world. 280 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, guys, how about g I f T. That's great. Well, 281 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: I know what you're lying. I mean, I understand what 282 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: you're like. You know, I'm I'm not saying I'm like you, 283 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: but I'm one of these people. You and I are 284 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: very on it. There's no no I've got it figured 285 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: it out. I'm thinking all the time processing. I may 286 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: have a different style, but you know, there's a certain 287 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: thing inside many of us, and when it's not channeled, 288 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: it goes in the wrong places. Like even for me, 289 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: it's humor, and I need a place to put the 290 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: humor in the connectivity. For other people, it's just business 291 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: and numbers or data. But how do you sustain You've 292 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: been married for how many years? Sixty and seventeen years? Okay, 293 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: now you've been totally honest and vocal where you did 294 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: a clubhouse together about that. It's had its challenges. She's 295 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: open about it too. So what is the good, bad, 296 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: and the ugly? How do you sustain? I mean, there's 297 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: no perfect relationship. That's bullshit. You know. My best friend 298 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: was last night complaining about something going on in her marriage. 299 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: Has been married for decades. That's an accomplishment. My other 300 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: best friend has been married for decades. He's an extrovert. 301 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: Like everybody's got their ships. So we're not sugarcoating anything, 302 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: but I'm asking an accomplishment is being a team and 303 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: being with the same partner for decades. So you've been together, 304 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: you have kids. How do you make something work when 305 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: you have these big, driven personalities. There's so many different elements. 306 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: How do you make it work? What's some formula or 307 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: some elements or ingredients. Look, I don't know if I 308 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: have a formula. I know that, you know. The thing 309 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 1: for me always is I need to work on me, 310 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: not on her. You know, I don't need to work 311 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 1: on her. You know, she's not a nail. I need 312 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: to work on me. The only thing I can change 313 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: is me. Like when I change me, things get better. 314 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: And if she does the same thing, then good. But 315 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: I can't make her do that, right, I can't. You know, 316 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 1: she typically blames me for everything that goes wrong. You know, 317 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: I am responsible for everything that happens bad, and she 318 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: is somehow responsible for everything that happens good. It's just 319 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: the way it is, right, So this has been difficulty 320 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: in my relationship. I live in a very physical universe. 321 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: For me, the universe is a lot of gravity, A lot. 322 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: I think you can relate to this. There's a lot 323 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: of effort required for me to be successful. Her world, 324 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: she does not live in a world where there's effort. 325 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: She lives in a very ethereal um. She's an actress, right, 326 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: so that's our background in the arts, and and so 327 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 1: her world is a lot lighter than mine is. Mine 328 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: has a lot of gravity. You're the peacock. You're the 329 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: peacock relationship. Obviously, there's only one peacock. I don't know 330 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 1: about that. You've never heard of it. There's only one 331 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: peacock with the blooming feathers taking up the energy in 332 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 1: the room. You're sucking up the energy in the room. 333 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 1: And she's got some of it in her own way. 334 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: But she's very much takes up a lot of room 335 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: in a room. I'm speaking about more effort effort. I'm 336 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: in an effort ban and she is much more in 337 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: a kind of a life free. Oh, I'm just gonna 338 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: make this happen. I'm gonna secret it. She's gonna secret it. 339 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 1: She's gonna make it happen energetically, and you're likelinding to 340 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: make it happen. I am the law of action, and 341 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: she is the law of possibility, and and she thinks 342 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: she's making this ship happen. But I'm like, bro, none 343 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 1: of this ship's happening without like jet fuel, without refueling, 344 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: without pushing through, without like like it's like, my world 345 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: is tough. It's just my reality. I could be completely 346 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: spiritually unevolved and I'm just an idiot. But I'll tell 347 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 1: you this. It is a version of the peacup because 348 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 1: same thing with me. There can and should only be 349 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: one person driving in that way. So you're lucky that 350 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: you happen to find a partner who happens to be 351 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: able to play and role in this world, your crazy world. 352 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: She's beautiful, she's charismatic, she's a good your first lady 353 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: or you're you're the first husband, whichever you want to say. 354 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: But it can't be easy to live in this electric, 355 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: energetic world. How do you find downtime? How do you 356 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: find connectivity? How do you find spirituality? How do you 357 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 1: find peace? And like avoid of just anything relaxing. We 358 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 1: don't actually, you know, the game for us is the game, 359 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: and we're both very interested in our own spiritual development individually. 360 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: We don't believe in the rule is just a broken relationship. 361 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: I bring fifty, you bring fifty. We've got a quarter 362 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: is what you got? Like, you got broken people coming together. 363 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,239 Speaker 1: Two broken people don't a whole. So we work a 364 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: lot on our spiritual development. Actually take time to get 365 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: away from each other and from our work and go 366 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: develop spiritually to understand that, you know, the things that 367 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: Elaine and I have in common are a great deal 368 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: more than the things we don't have in common. So 369 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: anytime there's an out and this, I just say, hey, 370 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 1: what's my grade? Like, Hey, you did this and you 371 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 1: did this. I'm like, what is my grade right now? 372 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: I failed those two things? What is my fucking grade 373 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: right now? Before God, by the way, I never pitched 374 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 1: perfect to anyone, So I never told her I was perfect. 375 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,959 Speaker 1: I told her I would make our lives great, And 376 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: I just always go back to that thing, is our 377 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: life great? Right? You know? But but look, if we 378 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: spend time on the outpoints, we'll just go further down 379 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: the tube, the rabbit hole. So we have to spend 380 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: time on, Hey, what's working. How do we double down 381 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: on that? How do we make that more successful? We 382 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: got two kids now they're growing up, things change, like 383 00:20:55,320 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 1: we have to change. Is the game changes? What are 384 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: your kids like? Are they motivated? Do they care about business? 385 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: Are they free spirits? Will you allow them to be free? Speak? 386 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: My daughter is an artist. She's free. She's not like 387 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: me in that way. She's totally could be living in 388 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: Malibu in a band, you know, and I like that 389 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: she's like that. I'm not looking for her to be me. 390 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: So I want to know how you are with your kids. Yeah. 391 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: So our kids are nine and eleven. They're both very extroverted, 392 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 1: very social, extremely confident. But they get to do whatever 393 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: they want to do. Like, they don't have to be 394 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: in our business. They want to be a doctor. They 395 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: can be whatever they want to do. They're not entitled 396 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: to the money, they're not entitled to the company. If 397 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: one of them wants to step up and run things, 398 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: they can. If they don't, no problem. It's there are lots. 399 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to force anything on them, so we 400 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: give them a tremendous amount of Now, your show, Undercover 401 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: Billionaire talks about building a million dollar business and dainty 402 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: days where you start with a hundred dollars. So I 403 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: want to get an to the show but I want 404 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: to talk about are you one certain that if right 405 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 1: now you just woke up tomorrow and had nothing, Like 406 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: you had the clothes on your back, you didn't have 407 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: a credit card that work, You probably didn't have credit 408 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: Could you right now kill it with nothing? Like starting 409 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: right now? But you're not grand card doing, you're not 410 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: famous like yeah, So look, this is what Discovery asked 411 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: me last year or January before COVID. Nancy Daniels caused 412 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: me and says, hey, would you be willing to do 413 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,239 Speaker 1: undercover billionaire? I said, I'd be willing to fly out 414 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 1: to l A and talk to you about it. So 415 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: I fly out to l A. I meet with Discovery. 416 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: She's there. I bring a bag with me. There's a 417 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: true story, so I said. So Nancy explained to me 418 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 1: the show. She's like, we're gonna drop you off in 419 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: a city. You will not know the city until you 420 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: get there. We want to know if you can with 421 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: a hundred dollars. You can't use your name, can't use 422 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: your credit cards, cannot use your connections, you cannot call 423 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: your five employees. Okay, I can't use your social media. 424 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: You have to nail this. Only a boy from lake, 425 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: can you can you turn it into a million dollar 426 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: business in ninety days? And I looked at her. I 427 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: said I could not say that. I could have said that. Listen. 428 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 1: I reached down, I grabbed a bag. I put the 429 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: bag on the table. In the bag was one million 430 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: dollars in cash. I said, not only can I do it, 431 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: I'll bet you one million dollars. I'll give you one 432 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: million dollars and I'll buy the entire crew a new car. 433 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 1: If I don't hit the million it's and by the way, 434 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: I don't need your hundred dollars, and I'll do it 435 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: in less than ninety days. You cannot do it less 436 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 1: be famous? Now for real, Grant, what is the show? 437 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: The show airs April same week? Is my show? The 438 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: Big Shot with Bethany airs that same week? So okay, 439 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 1: let's keep going. I want to hear. This is fucking sick. 440 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: So this is pre COVID. Now I leave Mandalaid Bay 441 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: in Las Vegas on February. The first person to ever 442 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: do the show or the show has happened before. No, no, 443 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 1: the show was done by a guy named Glenn Stearns, 444 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 1: and Glenn didn't hit the target. Glenn's a cool dude. 445 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: He did not hit the target, of course not. But 446 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: there's one of the things that I told Nancy Daniels. Okay, 447 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 1: I said, Nancy, by the way, this is what I'm 448 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: gonna do. I'll bet you a million dollars. I hit 449 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: the million dollar mark, but I'm not going for a 450 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: million dollars. I'm gonna build a ten million dollar business 451 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: in under nine dead dead. I don't know what I do. 452 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: And the money is you are money. The money is now. 453 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: You are money. You have that money. You made ten 454 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: million dollars. The business that we build. This you found somebody, 455 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: of course, but somebody somebody, I don't know anybody. They 456 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: dropped me off from Pueblo, Colorado. Do you know anybody 457 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: in Pueblo? No? So this is this is what I'm doing. 458 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: I leave Mandalaid Bay. I was with Kevin Hart. I'm 459 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: interviewed Kevin Hart, John travel to Dana White, Floyd Mayweather. 460 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: We are twelve thousand person event. You've been to our events. 461 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: You spoke at my thirty thousand person event. We had 462 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: that event that year in Las Vegas. I literally leave 463 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: Kevin Hart. I go shave my head in my penhouse, 464 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: get on my plane. I put on this pair of 465 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 1: pants right here that have on. I have to t shirts, 466 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: two pairs of pants. They give me an old pair 467 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: of boots. A new phone, has no contacts. They take 468 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: this phone from me. Okay, we flow my plane to Lamar, Colorado. 469 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: I'd drive two hours in a piece of ship. Truck 470 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 1: is a terrible truck. You'll see the show. You'll see it. 471 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: And I get to Pueblo at three o'clock in the afternoon. 472 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 1: The sun's gonna go down in three and a half hours. 473 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: I have no water and no food and no place 474 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:31,239 Speaker 1: to sleep. Okay, now watch this over ten days. I 475 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: don't spend one penny in ten days. The first thing 476 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 1: I did when I got to Pueblos I took the 477 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 1: hundred dollars and brought it to the bank and dropped 478 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: it off, opened a Welsh fargo account and got rid 479 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: of the hundred dollars. And discoveries like, why are you 480 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: putting this money in the bank. I'm like, because I 481 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: don't need a hundred dollars. I don't need anything. I 482 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 1: don't I don't need a dead Benjamin Franklin, you know. 483 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: And so they're like, we need you to spend that money. 484 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: I didn't spend that money for eight four days. I 485 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: never spent did no. I eat beans and rice for days. 486 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: If you made money, but you couldn't take any of 487 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: the money you made, if you made it all this money, Yeah, 488 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: whatever I wanted to do, I could do. You can't 489 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: break the law, but anything else is on the table. 490 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: I'm dying. I love this. This is amazing. Audience can 491 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: actually binge the entire series on Discovery Plus because it's 492 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: sitting there right now. I can watch it now. Yeah, 493 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: you can watch it right now Discovery Plus. If you 494 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: have six dollars. I have six dollars and I'm gonna 495 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: watch it with Paul. I'm freaking out. I can't wait. 496 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: This is so exciting. Wow. And the reason I did 497 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: the show was because of your question. The number one 498 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: question people ask me is if you weren't Grant Cardonne, 499 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: if you didn't have all these people following you on 500 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: social media, if you didn't have the money in the 501 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: plane and all this stuff, could you make it all 502 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 1: over again? And this show is going to prove to 503 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: you you don't need money. You do need a strategy. 504 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: You know, you don't need to be in your own 505 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: little hometown that actually might be a benefit to you, 506 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: and it doesn't take a long time. Cuban said he 507 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: doesn't need the five said, I give it. If you 508 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: had to start over, I give you five. That he was, 509 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 1: I don't need the five thousand. He said, the same thing. 510 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 1: It's so interesting. This is why the show is interesting 511 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 1: because some of the questions I asked people who have 512 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: done it in very different ways, compelling ways interesting. Don't 513 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 1: get dressed up in a three piece suits in a 514 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: cubicle like whatever it is I'm saying. I'm talking to charismatic, 515 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,239 Speaker 1: interesting people and they all say similar things that are 516 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: so crazy. Like so he was like, I don't need 517 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: your money, Like I would take the five thousand. He's like, 518 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: I don't need the money. I would go, I would 519 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: get a job because the money is not what it's about, 520 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: is what you're saying. It's not about the money. I 521 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 1: always say, it's never about the money, but it's ultimately 522 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: about that. And you know it's about the money. So 523 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: you know you've done a lot of reality shows. You 524 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 1: know a lot of that is not reality. This I 525 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: can promise you I was there for the entire time. 526 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: I never got any help. This was not produced. Everything 527 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: that happened happened. I lost two to multimillion dollar deals 528 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 1: because I got discovered. Because part of the deal is 529 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: if I get discovered. Okayd all right. So Mark Cuban 530 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: is the person who said that I'm one of the 531 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: great branders of all time, and I'm telling you you 532 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 1: would give me a run for my money. I mean, 533 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: there's something we should do together. I don't know what 534 00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: it is. It I told you I want to produce 535 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: a show with you. Yet let's go. Let's go, girl, 536 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: Come on. So now I understand why you're the top 537 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: crowdfunder in the world, raising five hundred million dollars in equity. 538 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: So now it's all making a lot of sense. You 539 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 1: have a hunger and a drive. So do you think 540 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: it's really what you saw in your father and just 541 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: the lack thereof in your mother or do you think 542 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: it's inside Do you think it's just inside of you? 543 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 1: Just baby, I was born this way, like auga says, 544 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: and look, I might not be right on this, but 545 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: I think that everybody has the potential to do something 546 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 1: much greater than they're doing. I know, since I was 547 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: a little boy, I had this like, I know I 548 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: can be somebody. You felt it, yeah, And I think 549 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: if everybody was honest, if you weren't so tired to 550 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: this idea that humility is such a great characteristic, which 551 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that it is. If you look up 552 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: the word in the dictionary, it's not a very appealing 553 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: word to be humble is not like, it's not something 554 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: you would want your kids to be if you look 555 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: the word up in the dictionary and just didn't assume 556 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: what it meant. But I think, quietly secret everybody thinks 557 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: they have something in them the special. And I just 558 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: happened to be one of those people that keeps telling 559 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: people I know, dude, I know, I know I'm supposed 560 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: to be somebody special. I know I'm supposed to do 561 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: something significant and important, and and I have just held that. 562 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: I think if my dad was here today, because he 563 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: did really well by us, but I think he would 564 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: look today and say, hey, I went for the middle 565 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: class and he got the middle class. And now, based 566 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: on how things turned out that my mom was having 567 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: an unload stuff the next week, he would not feel 568 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: like he actually set our family upright. I have certain goals, 569 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: but and I'm taking this thing into the end zone. 570 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: I can feel it, I know it. This business of mine, 571 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: I've doubled down. I've gone back to the tables. I've 572 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: split my aces. I already made a lot of money 573 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: and was on the cover of Forbes, but I decided 574 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: not for the money, for the game, for all of it. 575 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: But then you get into it and you're like, all right, 576 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: the money's a label for it, you know, the philanthropy 577 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: is a good thing that you can do to give back. 578 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: It all kind of becomes these these sort of goal posts, 579 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: and yeah, the end zone is my all those set 580 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: your goals high, you know, if the impossible as possible. 581 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: But do you believe as a percentage of luck? What 582 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: what percentage are you lucky? What percentage are you smart? Well, 583 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: I'm not a lucky guy, So I'm not lucky on 584 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,959 Speaker 1: the tables. I'm not lucky with the races. That's not 585 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: been my deal. If anybody at the table is gonna lose, 586 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna get the worst hand I've I've sat 587 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: there with where the fucking cards were So with me, 588 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, God, damn, how do I keep getting a fourteen? 589 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, Maybe it's a mental thing. But it's 590 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: why I love real estate, because real estates to me, 591 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: is like a no brainer thing by the same kind 592 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: of assets over and over. I have to have the 593 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: cash flow and time. Time becomes my friend. So as 594 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: long as I have enough time, I know if I 595 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: can sit at that deck long enough. In a real 596 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: estate deal, it's just when do I make a triple 597 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: or a quadruple. So your favorite business is real estate 598 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: of all your businesses, sounds like you're passionate about it. Well, 599 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: my favorite. My favorite business is helping people because it's 600 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: just that thing pays in so many ways. So I 601 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: love doing those conferences. But the real estate is the 602 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: thing that will outlive me. I mean, both of them 603 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: are gonna live longer than me. The real estate could 604 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: live a hundred years after me and take care of 605 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: the investors and our family and our charities. Our charities 606 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: are set up to be paid fifty years after I'm dead. 607 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: Every month like clock work out of cash flow. But 608 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: you know the books and the programs and the webinars 609 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: and Cardon University I've helped, you know, I can't go 610 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: anywhere today where some young kid twenty two years old man, uncle, gee, 611 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: what's going on? Man? You change my life? So you 612 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: know that stuff feels really good too. So is there 613 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: a number? Like, for me, being totally transparent, the number 614 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: just represents what the thing is, you know. But the 615 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: Skinny Girl brand, which is a hundred million dollar brand, 616 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: which for me is a you know, a big deal, 617 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: and it's still sort of new, and I only have 618 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: a couple of people working you know with me in 619 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,959 Speaker 1: my infrastructure. It's just like three or four people. So 620 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: I'm proud of that. You know, no debt. I own 621 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: a hundred percent of it, all of that. So the 622 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: goal is to take that and all the brands to 623 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: be like, you know, a billion dollar brand or of 624 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: several hundred million dollar brands. So that's a goal. Like, 625 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: that's sort of that's the end zone. Doesn't mean I'm leaving. 626 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: It just means it's a nice major thing to sort 627 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: of work towards. And with the philanthropy, we did three 628 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: unti million dollars, I'd like to take that getting too. 629 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: Three UNTI million dollars and three years getting two billion 630 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: dollars doesn't sound that far if we I mean, because 631 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: now once you do it, it becomes exponentially once you 632 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: get on the board. Once you have a hundred million 633 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: dollar business, you can have five hundred million dollar business 634 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: in a second. So what is your goal post? You know, 635 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: what's the point of all this? What do you guys 636 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: want when you look at a lane and do you 637 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: have the same goals? Do you say we're gonna do 638 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: this and then what happens? Okay? I would love to 639 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: take card own capital to forty four the number not five. 640 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: Four is my lucky number. Well, I started. My first 641 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: goal in real estate was to own twenty units. We 642 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: have nine thousand. That was my first target was twenty units. 643 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: I wanted to make ten thousand dollars a free cash flow. Okay, 644 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: that was like okay, if I can get there, I'm done. 645 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: My first deal with thirty eight units, it was twice 646 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,719 Speaker 1: what my whole goal was. So then, as you know, 647 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: once you start winning races, you're like ship man like 648 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: not only that, if you're going to do it, like 649 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: if you're going to open up a restaurant. Of course, 650 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: it's not easy to say to someone who only has 651 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: the money to open up a small restaurant. But I 652 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: was speaking to Mark Packer, who owns all the marquees 653 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: and the tows and all that. And when we were 654 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: sitting in this restaurant, dirty French, I said, this would 655 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: have been a great space, and he said I was 656 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: offered the space. But if I'm gonna open something, I 657 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: might as well open something big that can generate a revenue. 658 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: Because it's gonna take the same amount of time and 659 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: effort to do a tiny restaurant and the same amount 660 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: of aggravation and liability than to do a big restaurant. 661 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: So what you're saying is it's gonna be the same 662 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: thing for me if I do a relief effort, and 663 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: it's it was just as hard to get a hundred 664 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: pairs of rain boots for Texas as it is now 665 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: to do fifty million dollars in Ppe. So why not 666 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: just go all the way, same energy, same effort. It 667 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: might not even be harder to go bigger. It might 668 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: actually be harder to go smaller than it is to 669 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: go bigger. I know. I remember, for twenty years I 670 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: built a business is big enough to take care of 671 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: our family and not big enough to take care of 672 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: other people's families, And that business was harder to operate 673 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: than the company I had today. Running a business with 674 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: three people was harder than running a business with five. 675 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: I believe you. The small management of people is a suck. 676 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: It sucks you. Yeah, I agree, And there's no big payoff. Okay. 677 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: And this is the problem with the middle class. The 678 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: middle class is the most overlooked, punished, and oppressed group 679 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: of people on planet Earth. It's not people in poverty. 680 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: They get attention every day that things aren't fair. Everybody 681 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: knows that. And the super rich they never have a problem. 682 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: Things go bad, it gets better for him. But the 683 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: people in the middle that are just getting by. They 684 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,399 Speaker 1: got two cars, they got a nice little house. They're 685 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: worried all the time. By the way, you can tell 686 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: their word, because they're saving money for retirement that may 687 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: never happen. They may not even live to that day. 688 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: They're saving money in the banks, and the banks pay 689 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: them nothing. I mean, the whole thing, the big scam 690 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: in America is the middle class is someplace of freedom 691 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: when the truth is is just enough until it not. 692 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: And that's where my mom and dad lived. That's how 693 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: I grew up. I grew up in this constant fear 694 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: of my mother. She's constantly clipping coupons, looking for the 695 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: best deal, buying a used car when we should have 696 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: bought a new car, you know, moving homes because she 697 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: was worried about the maintenance. So that kind of built 698 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 1: my whole, like, Hey, I don't want to own a home. 699 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: I want to own three units. I'll rent where I 700 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: live and own where other people rent from me, and 701 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: I'll buy my dumb watch out of not earned income. 702 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 1: But right, So, who are your three best friends? My 703 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: three best friends? Man? Do I have three best friends? 704 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 1: I don't know. You have one best friend? Uh No, 705 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,439 Speaker 1: probably a lot of friends were not a best friend. 706 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 1: That's very interesting. What if somebody's going with your wife 707 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 1: that's serious and you're upset about it and you want 708 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: to talk about it, who do you call? I would 709 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: never talk to anyone about my wife. I would go 710 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: handle myself. I wouldn't call you and say, oh my god, 711 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: me and Elena hadn't had sex in three weeks, or hey, 712 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 1: me and Elena I had to fight. I don't need 713 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: your opinion about me and Lena that. I would never 714 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: involve a third party in one of our different problems. 715 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: Trusting people, No, I don't trust people with I would 716 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: not give that issue to you. I don't think it's 717 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: fair to you. I don't think it's fair to Elena. 718 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,439 Speaker 1: I need to go handle myself. I would go handle 719 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: myself with my church and say, hey, I got some 720 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: issues here. But do you go to Elena to tell 721 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 1: her like the thing that happens, the exciting thing that happens, 722 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: the deal that happens that the show you got the show? 723 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: Did you call her first? When I was doing Undercover Billionaire? 724 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I watched the first two minutes of Glenn 725 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: Stearns doing that show, and I'm I called Elena because 726 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: Discovery said, hey, just go watch the first episode. I 727 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: watched seconds. I call that we're doing this show, and 728 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: it was we doing We're doing this show. But that 729 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 1: doesn't sound collaborative, But it is collaborative because we know 730 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 1: different people are in charge of different things in the household. 731 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: I like that. So you're it's where the fish are, 732 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: the fish were there, You're we're going. The team is moving. 733 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 1: There's not two decision makers on certain things like finances. 734 00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,359 Speaker 1: There's one decision maker. Interesting, there's one core her back, 735 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: there's one coach. There's one guy running that play. If 736 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: she's kicking the field goal. I'm not kicking and I 737 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: have no opinion about anything. If she's running X, she 738 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 1: runs X, and we were lane or wrong or lane 739 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: or right. So you're rabbit Craft, she's Belichick, and you're 740 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 1: just like not, you're do any different things. But yeah, 741 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: that's right. There's never two cooks. And that's a good 742 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,399 Speaker 1: note forever on at home, by the way, that because 743 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 1: everyone wants to be so collaborative and that might not work. Okay, 744 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,240 Speaker 1: I like that because what that does is that adds 745 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: time and it adds doubt. If I got a call in, hey, 746 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 1: do you think I should buy this deal? Well, man, 747 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 1: if I don't know, maybe I shouldn't be buying the deal. 748 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 1: How long did that take to build up? Did you 749 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 1: start that way? Or that's an evolution? Like is that 750 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: from the beginning? No, No, we got married in two 751 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 1: thousand four, two thousand and eight. We had to get 752 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: our ship together because two thousand and eight, like the 753 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: honeymoon was off. Now the band aid been pulled, and 754 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 1: we were just in this honeymoon stage of being married 755 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: and weren't really taking life seriously until the global economic collapse, 756 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: where it's like Okay, who's running what she quld be 757 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: in an interest In two thousand eight, She's like, okay, 758 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 1: I throw in the towel on the active thing. I'm 759 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 1: on board with you. You have a better chance of 760 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 1: taking us to the finish line than I do. That's 761 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: changing now, right. I like that? Like Jesse, It'sler said 762 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 1: that everyone This is another iteration of the show is 763 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: the relationship aspect, you know, always focus on the dynamic 764 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 1: because it doesn't matter about the other ship if you 765 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 1: can't hold your relationship together. So one of the things 766 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 1: he was saying was that they check in with each 767 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,359 Speaker 1: other and they could make an appointment for like how 768 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 1: are you what's going on with you today? Not like 769 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: how is your day? But I mean like are you good? 770 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: Are we good? Like they check in with each other, 771 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: and that he lets her be her and fly and 772 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,800 Speaker 1: she lets him be him. So I like, I'm learning 773 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 1: a lot through all these shows about business and different 774 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: ways but also relationships and yours. Isn't definitely right or wrong. 775 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 1: It's just one method for the toolbox, and checking in 776 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 1: could be another method. You might use that from now on, 777 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: Like I might use that from now and but I 778 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,399 Speaker 1: might use your method. I like the toolbox of relationships. Yeah. Yeah, 779 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: And you might ask me three years from now, I 780 00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 1: might say, how all that ship I told you the 781 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 1: other day with ridiculous? It was stupid by the way. 782 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 1: I've changed my mom many times in my career, and 783 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,839 Speaker 1: I think it's important that people look back and say, Okay, 784 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 1: I don't do that anymore. Exactly, you're checking in with 785 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: the relationship and what's working, things don't work. Yeah. I 786 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 1: agree with you on that. You grow out of a house, 787 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 1: you grow out of certain techniques, grow out of food 788 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: you're reading, grow out of health, health things, you're doing workouts. 789 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: So you do all these motivational conferences, largest business conference 790 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 1: in the world, thousands of people worldwide. They're massive. I've 791 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: been there. I went there. I spoke in front of 792 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: forty people people at the Marlin Stadium. I didn't know 793 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: where I was. But I walk out and there's a 794 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,800 Speaker 1: car and like fireworks and explosions. I'm like, where the 795 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 1: fund am I? So it's a world and I want 796 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: to do something with you because there's these worlds and 797 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,760 Speaker 1: people don't know about that. Like you're just uncovering, you're walking, 798 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,479 Speaker 1: You're like, there's the people at the Marlin Stadium Super 799 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 1: Bowl weekend, like what is going on? So obviously you 800 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: have a massive reach. You have speak to motivators all 801 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,919 Speaker 1: the time. Who are the top three speakers that you've 802 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: had or seen or experience, like people that are just 803 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: electric and really motivating. Kevin Hart was phenomenal. It was 804 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: so easy because I'm very much a stand up guy. 805 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 1: Everything is for me? Is what's it called when you 806 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 1: do stand up improv? Yes? So that conversation was extremely 807 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: easy with me. Here's a guy that's a black comedian. 808 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: Everybody knows who Kevin Hard is, you know, and he 809 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: probably wants to be more businessman. I'm a businessman that 810 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,319 Speaker 1: probably wants to be a comedian, you know. So, but 811 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,280 Speaker 1: the thing that we had in common was this personal 812 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 1: comfort with making mistakes and just you know, just ripping 813 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 1: with an audience. Um. I literally like like the thing 814 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: that probably that I'm most scared of it. I would 815 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: love to do improv at a comedy store about money. 816 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 1: Guess what, No one knows this, No one, My best 817 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,800 Speaker 1: friends don't know this. Okay, I am going up into 818 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 1: a comedy club in New York City and doing stand up. 819 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: So for many people. That's as crazy as you shaving 820 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 1: your head and going to pay. Well, I'm standing up 821 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 1: in front of the audience that doesn't know I'm coming. 822 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,720 Speaker 1: The club doesn't even know it's me, and they keep saying, 823 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,399 Speaker 1: we've had Jerry Seinfeld shop here Kevin Hart unannounced, which 824 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 1: is a lot of people's phones. But who is this person? 825 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,799 Speaker 1: So I'm not Kevin Harden. I'm not Jerry Seinfeld. But 826 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 1: it's going to be a shock, and I'm doing it. 827 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 1: I keep looking at Paul, I'm looking doing this and 828 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 1: so what I did? How long were you doing? As 829 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 1: long as I want? I mean at minimum five minutes, 830 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 1: but I might do ten minutes. I mean, I'm just 831 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: gonna wing it, but I'm not winging have something to say, 832 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 1: but I'm not. I'm not gonna psyched out. And you 833 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 1: can text Kevin Hart because this was an idea I 834 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,360 Speaker 1: had and I've documented it all, meaning just I've written 835 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 1: it down. I emailed and texted and received from every 836 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: single one of them, which is shocking. You know, in business, 837 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 1: if you asked ten people for money for PHILANTHROPI or 838 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: to do something for you or whatever, you're gonna get 839 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 1: like I can't or don't or write it forward to 840 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 1: my book. I can. I will. Every single person I'm 841 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 1: gonna tell you the names responded to me with passion 842 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:58,359 Speaker 1: and good advice and takeaway. Kevin Neil and Ellen Degenerous, 843 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 1: Chris Rock, Whitney Hummings, Kathy Griffin called me for a 844 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 1: half hour shell Boto bridget evert like major legit comics. 845 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 1: But Kevin Nalen wrote me a one page email. You know, 846 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 1: Chris Rock gave me a whole blurb, like I just 847 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 1: wanted three tips, three tips on doing stand up for 848 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 1: the first time or any time, and so ask Kevin Hart. 849 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: Because they were all different, and like the show, they 850 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 1: all like had commonalities but then dissimilarities. You could pick, 851 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: like you could listen to Grant cardone and listen to 852 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,359 Speaker 1: how he does business to take two things or one thing. 853 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: So I'm finding these threads in the show and it's fascinating. 854 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 1: Good luck, good luck, because five minutes can feel like 855 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 1: like sixty minutes if it's not going well. So why 856 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 1: would you keep thinking about I'm just gonna get up 857 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,360 Speaker 1: and do it, you know, but I'm taking it seriously, 858 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not just winging and like, oh, funny. 859 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 1: They know that. What's interesting about it is that what 860 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,439 Speaker 1: I recognized in speaking to all of them is it's 861 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: an art form and it's a craft. So they're passionate 862 00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 1: about it. And the fact that I'm not asking them 863 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,319 Speaker 1: like help me be fun me. I'm not asking them. 864 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 1: I didn't ask them for jokes. I want to know 865 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 1: about the art form. So they gave different advice, whether 866 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,840 Speaker 1: it was breathed just breathed, which is like okay, or 867 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,799 Speaker 1: like Chris Rock said, know the first and the last 868 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 1: thing you're gonna say the middles of flow, you know, 869 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: like so great? Yeah, so all right, I want to 870 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 1: just hear your life mantra and then let you go 871 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,360 Speaker 1: because you're very busy. You know, my life mantra is 872 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:30,319 Speaker 1: success is your duty. That is my battle cry. It's 873 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 1: not an option. Everybody can have it. You know. Everybody 874 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 1: needs it. Your charities need it, your community needs it, 875 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,719 Speaker 1: and the people that are watching you need it. People 876 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 1: are watching everyone, and if you're winning, there watching, and 877 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 1: if you're losing, their watching, and if you're just getting by, 878 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 1: everybody knows it. So I mean, you know, I just 879 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 1: want to make a difference. That's why we do these 880 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 1: big conferences like they do make a difference. You ask 881 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 1: me my three top speakers, so Kevin, I love being 882 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,319 Speaker 1: with Kevin. Let me see who else. I mean, I've 883 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: had so many great like unbelievable. I had Don. People 884 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,799 Speaker 1: said our last conference it was phenomenon. Don is the 885 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,399 Speaker 1: seventh wealthiest Black American, and I just loved it. He's 886 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 1: a banker guy, So we go from a comedian to 887 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 1: a banker, right. And I'm trying. What I'm trying to 888 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 1: do in those conferences is I'm really trying to erase 889 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,879 Speaker 1: the line between entertainment and business, because I don't think 890 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 1: there should be a line there. And then the third 891 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 1: most craziest speaker I've ever met is a chick name stop. 892 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 1: I wasn't fishing grow Okay, well that was I wasn't 893 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 1: fishing at all. I've only done it a couple of times. 894 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 1: We've had you twice. Man. That's I will tell you 895 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,719 Speaker 1: this is a truth. Success and success comes in many 896 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,759 Speaker 1: different shapes and places. And I will tell you that 897 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 1: I've done this podcast now many times. I think we've 898 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 1: aired probably thirty episodes, and in unexpected places. I had 899 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 1: a great conversation with Dana White who you know, I 900 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 1: had a great conversation with Sandy Hagar. You'd think, I mean, 901 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,840 Speaker 1: I had a great conversation with Hillary Clinton, but it 902 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 1: wasn't like you know, the same is that this was. 903 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 1: I think this was my best podcast because it was alive, 904 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 1: it was electric, it was funny, it was unexpected, it 905 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:10,320 Speaker 1: was humanizing. This conversation represents why I'm doing this and 906 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,839 Speaker 1: I value your time. And I just for the record, 907 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 1: I think you were excellent. Like I I'm like a 908 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,959 Speaker 1: Ted You're the best. You're a Ted X today, Swear 909 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,879 Speaker 1: to god ten X. Come on. It's because every time 910 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,320 Speaker 1: I'm with you, I'm better. It was wonderful, so fun Okay, bye, 911 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:32,359 Speaker 1: thank you so much. So that was amazing and interesting 912 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 1: and unexpected and alive, and I knew we'd have a 913 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 1: great conversation. But this podcast is about bringing to light 914 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 1: people who are undeniably successful in anyone's opinion, like, no 915 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 1: matter what they are, started from the bottom. Now they're here, 916 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 1: they have created something, they have something to share. This 917 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,840 Speaker 1: is a toolbox for success in relationships, in business and 918 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 1: human dynamics and the human condition and the human behavior. 919 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 1: And you know, these people are unexpected. But I choose. 920 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 1: There's no scientific process here. I'm laying in bed at 921 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 1: night and I think to myself, I want to have 922 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 1: Grand Cardona, or I'm watching the Steve Madden the Shoot 923 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 1: Mogul documentary and I text him, I want to have 924 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 1: you my podcast or someone interesting and entertainment or the 925 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 1: automobile industry or apparel like it's just about what's going 926 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,439 Speaker 1: to give you the tools and the wisdom and the 927 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 1: insight for your own success. So this podcast is by 928 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 1: far my favorite media platform and my favorite project I 929 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,959 Speaker 1: work on. It's just authentic and true to me and 930 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:41,840 Speaker 1: the stories I want to hear and the takeaway for 931 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,920 Speaker 1: all of you in life and in business. So I'm 932 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 1: so grateful. That was wonderful and it was a perfect 933 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: example of the unexpected. Thank you all for listening. Remember 934 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,400 Speaker 1: to rate, review, and subscribe, and we will be talking 935 00:46:53,560 --> 00:47:05,520 Speaker 1: again soon. Yeah. Just Be is hosted and executive produced 936 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,640 Speaker 1: by me Bethany Frankel. Just Be as a production of 937 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 1: Be Real Productions and I Heart Radio. Our managing producer 938 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 1: is Fiona Smith and our producer is Stephanie Stender. Our 939 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 1: EP is Morgan Levoy. To catch more moments from the show, 940 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 1: follow us on Instagram at just be with Bethany