1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 2: Second hour Clay and Buck kicks off right now. 4 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 3: We're talking a lot about New Hampshire because we're just 5 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 3: days away from the first of the nation primary and 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 3: it's looking like it's going to be a two person 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 3: race right now, really between Nicky Haley and Donald Trump. 8 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 3: So what's going to happen here in the final stages. 9 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 3: What are some of the closing arguments going to be 10 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 3: from both camps? Nikki Haley upset here and even naming 11 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 3: Fox in the process because she claims that the assertion 12 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 3: that she is not a conservative is false, is unfair. 13 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 2: Let's talk about it. Play one. 14 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 4: I think it's irresponsible for the press to say this 15 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 4: because Democrats can't vote in this primary. They haven't been 16 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 4: able to change their register for months. He's going out 17 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 4: saying I want to cut social security. I've never once 18 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 4: said I want to cut social security, and everybody's talking 19 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 4: about the fact is she a conservative? I want you, Athley, 20 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 4: You've known me a long time. How am I not conservative? 21 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 4: I was a Tea Party governor, I passed voter ID, 22 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 4: I passed the toughest illegal immigration law in the country. 23 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 4: I cut taxes, I passed tort reform, we paid down 24 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 4: our debt. I went to the UN we cut a 25 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 4: billion dollars. Just because the media says it, because Donald 26 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 4: Trump says it, it's wrong. I've been a conservative. 27 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 5: All my life. 28 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 4: No one can mention one thing that says I'm not 29 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 4: a conservative. 30 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 3: A few things here, Clay, Let's try to analyze this 31 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 3: as honestly and dispassionately as we can. She when she 32 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 3: was a governor in South Carolina, governor of a very 33 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 3: red state, and so yes, she governed as a conservative. 34 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 3: But then again, I don't think you have much choice 35 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 3: in South Carolina, you know. I think it's also true, 36 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 3: for example of South Dakota. If you're going to govern there, 37 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 3: it's very red, so you're probably going to push Republican policies. 38 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 3: The hits on NICKI Haley, for example, to me, seems 39 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 3: to be the place is where, you know, because people 40 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 3: are upset. We've seen this online. They're upset at the 41 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 3: notion of a Nicky Haley VP. So I want to 42 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 3: dive into a little bit of forget about whether Trump 43 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 3: will or won't, why does that bother people in the 44 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 3: Republican Party in the base people who are going out 45 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 3: to vote. I think it's primarily a couple things. Let 46 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 3: me know if I'm missing anything or if you think 47 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 3: there's something else to throw in here. 48 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: I think Nicki. 49 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 3: Haley is very much an establishment Republican on foreign policy 50 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,119 Speaker 3: and the usage of US military force abroad. I think 51 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 3: she's considered establishment insofar as the donor class tends to 52 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: really like her. What is it that she has done? 53 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 3: She served under the Trump ad ministry. As I've said, 54 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 3: US Ambassador to Medications is almost a ceremonial post. It's 55 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 3: just the truth. But anyway, what has she done in 56 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 3: office that is not conservative? I mean she said she 57 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 3: was bad I think on an answer about transgender things 58 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 3: that she gave recently, but she really just evaded. She 59 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 3: didn't give an incorrect answer, right Like what people the 60 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 3: notion that she's not like, let's take this at face value, 61 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 3: that she's not a conservative? 62 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 2: Where does that really come from? Is it fair? 63 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: So? 64 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 6: I think Nikki Haley has not been very good at 65 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 6: answering questions. She didn't handle a question on the Civil 66 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 6: War very well, she didn't handle the question on transgender 67 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 6: issues very well, and those have bubbled up and become stories, 68 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 6: right because she hasn't handled them as well, and now 69 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 6: they don't do very many public forum questions as a result. 70 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 2: I think is one of the outcomes of that. 71 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 6: I think if you ask people, a lot of it 72 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 6: would come after she left the UA in with the 73 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 6: way that she immediately kind of jumped right into bed 74 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 6: with global business interests. 75 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: That would be the attack. 76 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 6: I think that the reality is that is a line 77 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 6: of attack that Donald Trump has been able to take 78 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 6: advantage of because she has been supported by people who 79 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 6: are otherwise Democrats. I think that's really where it comes 80 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 6: from more than anything else. I think it's also the 81 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 6: idea in many of the debates she has been more 82 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 6: prone to advocate using American military than the less activist 83 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 6: base of the Republican Party would be. 84 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 2: Right. 85 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 6: She's more aggressive on Ukraine, She's more aggressive on how 86 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 6: to use military force, which would have actually been sort 87 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 6: of the Bush Cheney style of the Republican Party. She 88 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 6: would have been probably an interventionist on Iraq. And then 89 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 6: the other thing I would say is I think a 90 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 6: lot of people feel like she goes whatever way the 91 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 6: wind blows, and her response in South Carolina when they 92 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 6: had the shooting at the Ebenezer Baptist Church and she 93 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 6: suddenly says, Oh, we've got to take down the Confederate 94 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 6: flag immediately. I actually think that's why she didn't handle 95 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 6: the slavery question very well, because she is particularly apprehensive 96 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 6: about how to handle issues such as those, and that 97 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 6: kind of put up her guard antenna. When she got 98 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 6: that question about the Civil War at all, she just 99 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 6: doesn't want to really kind of dive into it. That's 100 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 6: not a difficult question to answer, but she was more 101 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 6: particularly sensitive to it maybe than most would be. 102 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 3: So she It's interesting because most of your most of 103 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 3: the things you point out, and I agree that she 104 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 3: has handled some questions badly. It feels like that's more 105 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 3: a function of her inauthenticity as a candidate and what 106 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 3: she's expressing than it is a lack of conservatism, do 107 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like it she's messing up. 108 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 3: But she's messing up not because she's actually a lib 109 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 3: or she's a you know, she ses it, a centrist 110 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 3: or whatever. It's because she doesn't want to tell people 111 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 3: what she really thinks. She wants to tell them whatever 112 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 3: is going to help the most in that moment. I 113 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 3: did think this was interesting as well. She says that 114 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 3: while Trump's cases should play out, she did pledge to 115 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 3: fully pardon him, and we haven't talked about the Fani 116 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 3: willis the latest there, which I think this ties into this, 117 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 3: But let's play this is cut too promising to pardon Trump. 118 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: Play it. 119 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,119 Speaker 4: You know, you only want to talk about a pardon 120 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 4: after someone has been convicted. So I would assume that 121 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 4: we'd let that play out, and I would think he 122 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 4: would want that to play out. 123 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 2: If you were convicted, would you then pardon him? 124 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 4: I said, I would pardon him with this simple reason 125 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 4: of you know, when you talk about a pardon, someone's 126 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 4: already been found guilty. But for me, the last thing 127 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 4: we need is an eighty year old president sitting in jail, 128 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 4: because that's just going to further divide our country. This 129 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 4: is no longer about whether he's innocent or guilty. This 130 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 4: is about the fact, how do we bring the country 131 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 4: back together? And I am determined to make sure all 132 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 4: of this division, all of this chaos, goes away, and 133 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 4: I think a pardon for him would make all of 134 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 4: that go away. 135 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 3: And I think for the country, what she just said 136 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 3: there I went to, I thought about this right away. 137 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 3: Is what Mike Pence should have said on this show 138 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 3: when you kept asking him about a pardon. It's not 139 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 3: even about notice she didn't go to I mean, if 140 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 3: you or I rass, I'd be like, these charges are preposterous. 141 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 3: This is all at political hit job. She didn't even 142 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 3: go there. But I think it's sufficient for her to 143 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 3: say that in this context. Yes, of course I would 144 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: pardon Trump. He's still one of our former presidents. May 145 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 3: still be a future president, but one of our former 146 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 3: presidents sitting in prison. Antley would have been able to continue. 147 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 3: He wouldn't have won or anything, but I think you 148 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 3: would have been able to continue his campaign a little longer. 149 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 3: The lack of that vision for me blew away all this. 150 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 3: Oh I'm the guy standing on principal thing. What about 151 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 3: the principle of you're trying to not ripped the country apart? 152 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, and look, I mean this is what I would 153 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 6: have said if I was Ron DeSantis from the start. 154 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 6: I think Vivek was the only person who said it ever, 155 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 6: at like just right out of the gate. 156 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 2: And I give credit to the Vacan. He did say it, 157 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: but he didn't say it right away? Am I coote 158 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 2: up to it? He did it? 159 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 6: Really, We asked him when he right after he launched 160 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 6: he came on the show. To me, that's an easy question. 161 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 6: It would have put it behind and Nicky Haley's gotten 162 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 6: finally to the right place at a minimum. 163 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: On that answer. 164 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 6: But my concern is when it takes you a long 165 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 6: time to get to the right answer, you're ultimately being 166 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 6: hired for your judgment. And this was an easy call 167 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 6: for me. And by the way, I would say that 168 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 6: some people are gonna be upset about this. I would 169 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 6: say the same thing if it were a Democrat. I 170 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 6: don't think you benefit unless it's like you are committing 171 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 6: a murder, right like something that is a direct violent 172 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 6: act that. 173 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: You undertook life. 174 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 3: I would not want Joe Biden sent to prison for 175 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 3: PRIs crimes. And that is what they are trying to 176 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 3: do to Donald Trump for documents or for yeah, for 177 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 3: this classified thing that he's being investigated for. Right like, 178 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 3: let's pretend that Trump comes into office beats Biden. I 179 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 3: don't think that whoever the new Attorney general is of 180 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 3: the United States should try to put Joe Biden point 181 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 3: for the rest of his life. Donald Trump feels this 182 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 3: way too about or felt this way about Hillary Clinton, correct, who. 183 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 2: Clearly broke the law. 184 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 3: It was as obvious as can be. But I think 185 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 3: Trump recognized in you know, in a moment that is 186 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 3: you'd have to describe as magnanimous Trump. Better for the country, 187 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 3: not to lock up my previous political competitor and obviously 188 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 3: one of the most famous people in American politics, and 189 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 3: Clinton's the last name. The whole thing. Better for the country. 190 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 3: Not to your point, if if you should go away 191 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 3: on state charges for a long time because of violent 192 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 3: crime or something I do. And this goes to the 193 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 3: argument that has been talked about a little bit with Trump, 194 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 3: and you know that can't actually be true because if 195 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 3: that is, you know, the notion that you can't go 196 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 3: to prison for anything or you can do anything as 197 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 3: the president, and it's okay, because then anybody who becomes 198 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 3: president could eliminate all their rivals and it would be 199 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 3: something that we would have to sit round. 200 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, just yeah, take it outside of like 201 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 6: an actual attack on your political rivals, which right, I mean, 202 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 6: but I'm talking about something not even that you order. 203 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 6: To me, the easiest call is something that you directly do, right, Like, 204 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 6: let's say that the president of the United States got 205 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 6: into an argument with his son and picked up a 206 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 6: you know, I don't know, like candlestick in the solarium 207 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,599 Speaker 6: and yes, and hit his son in the head and 208 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 6: killed him. Like, the president should be prosecuted for that 209 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 6: direct physical violent act. 210 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: You aren't above that. Right now. 211 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 6: You could say, oh, you're driving a car and then 212 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 6: you're drunk, but the president never drives a car. 213 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 2: Right. 214 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 6: The number of things that a president could do that 215 00:10:55,040 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 6: are physically violent is relatively limited because they're constantly surround 216 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 6: Did buy Secret Service protection? 217 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 2: Right? Drive cars? Like all those things? 218 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 3: And you know, a presidential immunity, I mean this has 219 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 3: been talked about a little bit recently. You can't order 220 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 3: drone strikes on your political opposition in this country, right 221 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 3: that that would be first of all, people don't even 222 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 3: talk about this. You know, there is whether it's military 223 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 3: chain of commander or you know, intelligence, you're not allowed 224 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 3: to There are unlawful orders. Yeah, just because someone can 225 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 3: give an order does not make the order lawful, and 226 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 3: not all presidential orders would inherently be lawful either, So 227 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 3: I mean, I know it's been more of an intellectual 228 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 3: debate than I think a real debate recently, although it 229 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 3: has come up in court and some of the Trump 230 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 3: lawyers were raising this to see the extent of presidential 231 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 3: immunity and to test this out because we've never been 232 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 3: here before. 233 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 2: But I think it's interesting as well. Clay. 234 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 3: The reason we have to have this, or that we're 235 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 3: even talking about testing the length of presidential immunity or 236 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 3: the extent of presidential immunity, is because Democrats are trying 237 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 3: to throw a presidential candidate into prison. That's why we're 238 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 3: having the conversation totally. And I'll give you an example 239 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 3: from recent history. Right, they didn't find weapons of mass 240 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 3: destruction in Iraq? Should George W. 241 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 6: Bush be prosecuted because he relied on his intelligence agencies 242 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 6: and they ended up being inaccurate for purposes of why 243 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 6: he decided to invade Iraq? 244 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 2: Right? 245 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 6: Like that, to me is an easy example of him 246 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 6: acting within his presidential authority and the result ending up 247 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 6: being something that wasn't what he sold to the American public. 248 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 6: That shouldn't be prosecutable. 249 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 2: Right. 250 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 6: There are people out there who say, oh, George W. 251 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 6: Bush should have been charged with war crimes over that. 252 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 6: That's clearly to me, within the scope of making decisions 253 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 6: I was going to that's the critical The critical thing though, 254 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 6: was within the scope of your employment, right, So you know, 255 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 6: when I was in the CIA, they always made that 256 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 6: very clear to us. You know, where where are you 257 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 6: you know where would you have some protection and some 258 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 6: qualified immunity or you know, same thing at the NYPD. 259 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 6: You know, if you're a cop and you're on the 260 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 6: job and you do something and it's within the scope 261 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 6: of your employment, that goes under a different set of 262 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 6: rules than you're off. 263 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 2: Duty you're at home. 264 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 3: You know, you get into an argument the delivery driver, 265 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 3: you punch them in the face. You can't say, hey, 266 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 3: I'm a law enforcement officer, I'm using my force. Like 267 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 3: within the scope of your job is very important and 268 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 3: certainly in the context of a commander in chief, so 269 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 3: that that matters, I. 270 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 2: Think, no doubt. 271 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 6: I mean, I think that's the kind of conversation the 272 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,479 Speaker 6: Supreme Court is going to have to rectify and analyze 273 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 6: and election. 274 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 7: Challenges or within the I think very clearly within the 275 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 7: scope of ioor your role. 276 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 3: I mean you're running, you're running in an election. 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As 305 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 6: we sit here four days from the New Hampshire primary. 306 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 6: News that is out there. Tim Scott, according to the 307 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 6: New York Times, senator from South Carolina, set to endorse 308 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 6: Donald Trump for president tonight at a rally in New Hampshire. 309 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 6: That is the report from the New York Times. Now 310 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 6: that is somewhat significant in that Tim Scott had not 311 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 6: endorsed anyone since he dropped out of the presidential race 312 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 6: before any votes were actually cast. But if you're looking 313 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 6: ahead to South Carolina and stepping beyond where we are 314 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 6: right now, this would mean that Trump has been endorsed 315 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 6: in South Carolina by the Governor Henry McMaster, by Lindsey Graham, 316 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 6: of course, and now by Tim Scott in the event 317 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 6: that Nicky Haley is going to take the fight to 318 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 6: Donald Trump. In South Carolina, all three of the statewide 319 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 6: elected officials in that state have now lined up behind 320 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 6: Donald Trump. So that's where I would say the impact 321 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 6: of Tim Scott's endorsement, as he is very popular in 322 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 6: South Carolina, would come into play. I'd also bring this 323 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 6: up buck Remember Nicky Haley went after Tim Scott because 324 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 6: I believe, if I remember correctly, Nicky Haley appointed Tim 325 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 6: Scott to the Senate when he initially began his tenure there, 326 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 6: so they had a pretty good relationship. But if you'll 327 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 6: remember in the debates, Tim Scott, I think, came on 328 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 6: the show and even talked about it a little bit, 329 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 6: seemed a little bit surprised that Nicky Haley went after 330 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 6: him as aggressively as she did during those during those 331 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 6: debates before because remember, first one of them had to 332 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 6: emerge as a contender. Both of them could not. Nicky 333 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 6: Haley won that battle, and now it feels like Tim 334 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 6: Scott may be paying her back by deciding to endorse 335 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 6: Donald Trump. 336 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 3: Well, it's also the smart play at this point, well, right, correct, 337 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 3: nobody's going to say himself. 338 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but there's you know, there's no. 339 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 7: One who's going to be surprised at all at endorsement 340 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 7: for Trump at this point, for from from anybody, I 341 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 7: would say, And you know, we're gonna have to We 342 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 7: got Producer Ali thinks Tim Scott's going to be Trump's VP, 343 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 7: so we we we're gonna have to start keeping track 344 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:30,719 Speaker 7: of all of these projections on this. 345 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 2: It's just it's it is interesting. 346 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 3: It's almost more interesting to think about the possibilities than 347 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 3: I think it actually matters who ends up being the VP. 348 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 3: In some ways, at least in terms of the election. 349 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 3: It's a bigger thing to see down the line how 350 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 3: it's all going to go. 351 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 6: Producer Ali really likes Tim Scott as the potential VP choice. 352 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 6: She wants to make bat on it, right, Did you 353 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 6: say that already? 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We'll take 374 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 2: some of your calls. 375 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 3: I should note eight hundred two two two eight eight 376 00:18:55,640 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 3: two Trump derangement syndrome on full display. 377 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 2: This is this is interesting. This is on Piers Morgan's. 378 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:11,239 Speaker 3: Show, I suppose yesterday, Yes Piers Morgan, who not a 379 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 3: lot of people go from having a CNN show where 380 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 3: they talk about how the Second Amendment shouldn't exist and 381 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 3: people who own guns are crazy? 382 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 2: Do having a Fox News like. 383 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 3: It was it's it's a British show, but it's carried 384 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:25,959 Speaker 3: on Fox Nation or something like that. 385 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 2: Is that right? 386 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 6: I think that's right. Yeah, his show. I did a 387 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 6: show this week. He's got a pretty entertaining show that's 388 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 6: based out of London, also distributed on Fox Nation. I 389 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 6: think he's doing his show this week out of New 390 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 6: York City, but in general it's a British focused show, 391 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 6: but they talk a ton about American politics. 392 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 2: He's a provocative interviewer. 393 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 3: So he's managed to go from CNN to the Fox world, 394 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 3: which is interesting. But anyway, here he is talking to 395 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 3: talking to Eric Holder. We all remember Eric Holder, who 396 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 3: was Barack Obama's attorney General and one of the most 397 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 3: important figures of the Obama era in terms of making 398 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 3: sure the Obama agenda could go forward and that there 399 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,479 Speaker 3: were no problems that would come up. We could talk 400 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 3: about that another time. Here you go, Peers Morgan talking fourteen. 401 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 3: Then we'll follow up a thirteen play it. 402 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 5: I was really impressed by Jamie Dunmand. I thought it's 403 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 5: a really smart take to remind people that not only 404 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 5: are they not crazy a lot of Trump supporters, but 405 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 5: they have legitimate reasons to think that Trump would do 406 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 5: a better job than Joe Biden run in the country. 407 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 5: And he listed a number of things that Trump achieved 408 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 5: last time. And this took me back to what Henry 409 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 5: Clints said about the bastard deplorables. 410 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 2: Right, if you start. 411 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 5: Branding all Trump supporters eighty million Americans as deplorable or crazy, 412 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 5: it's going to come back and bite you. And I 413 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 5: think they are raging hysterically and with wild exaggeration, right 414 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 5: into Trump's hands. 415 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 3: So okay, that's actually honestap that's just Piers Morgan talking 416 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 3: about how be saying that you know Trump voters are 417 00:20:59,119 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 3: crazy is about. 418 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 2: Then you get Eric Caserr. Here's the Eric Holder piece 419 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 2: of this. 420 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 3: There's a separate episode where he says it is the 421 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 3: former attorney general everybody that American democracy could end with 422 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:10,719 Speaker 3: Trump play thirteen. 423 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 8: This question is about whether or not our democracy will endure, 424 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 8: whether or not our democracy will survive. They have put 425 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 8: the interests of one man and the views that they 426 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 8: have that support that one man above everything else. You know, 427 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 8: they are happy with, or comfortable with, the notion of autocracy, 428 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 8: of dictatorship as opposed to democracy. And people say waiting 429 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 8: Man now Holders overstating the case that is not this 430 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 8: is not overstate. 431 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 2: You have to take. 432 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 8: Them at their word and look at what it is 433 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 8: they are proposing and the impact of the policies that 434 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 8: they will try to put in place. American democracy could 435 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 8: end with the election of Donald Trump. 436 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just absurd, Clay, this is I wish 437 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 2: it's going to be the whole thing. 438 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 6: I wish people would push back more and say, how 439 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 6: specifically do you believe that Trump is going to do 440 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 6: to end American democracy? Because that would be really woul 441 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 6: everybody out there agree with me that that would be 442 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 6: really difficult. In order to end American democracy, the military 443 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 6: would have to agree to support Donald Trump at the 444 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 6: exclusion of all obligations and responsibilities that they have under 445 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 6: the Constitution. I just I don't mind when people say, oh, 446 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 6: you know what, if we elected this guy or this gal, 447 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 6: things are going to get a lot worse, the economy 448 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 6: is going to be, But take the step of we're 449 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 6: going to have democracy end. I wish more journalists, to 450 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 6: the extent that they're actually journalists, would push and say, Okay, 451 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 6: how does that happen? But as they say, well, it 452 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 6: almost happened on January sixth, No it didn't. But there 453 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 6: was nobody armed in by and large at all, hardly 454 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 6: in that group. You think a guy with a spear 455 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 6: dressed in a bear skin is going to somehow buffalo 456 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 6: skin whatever it was, is going to somehow overthrow the 457 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 6: United States government? Like in order, Buck, you worked in 458 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 6: the CIA, Like there are a lot of coups that 459 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 6: the CIA is aware of may have been involved in before. 460 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 6: You can neither confirm nor deny Clay. But in order 461 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 6: to overthrow an existing structure of government, you have to 462 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 6: have a lot of airplanes, and you have to have 463 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 6: a lot of tanks, and you have to have a 464 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 6: lot of people that are gonna support you. This is 465 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 6: just so laughably hurt. 466 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 2: Buck. 467 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 6: I hear people say, well, Trump just won't leave office 468 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 6: after if he wins reelection, He'll just stay in office. No, 469 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 6: we won't, Like this is this is all crazy talk. 470 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 6: And I feel like, you know, sometimes if somebody says 471 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 6: something crazy, the best way to prove how crazy they 472 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 6: are is to keep them talking. Why does no one 473 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 6: follow up and say, okay, you think democracy could end? 474 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 2: How specifically what it end? What would happen? 475 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 6: Well, Trump would have takeover tanks, and he would take 476 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 6: over airplanes and aircraft carriers, and like they would turn 477 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 6: them out like this is all crazy talk. 478 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 3: This is part of what was written about by Brett 479 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 3: Stevens in that New York Times piece, where again he's like, 480 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 3: I don't want Trump to win, but I understand why 481 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 3: he might win because the Democrat elites are living in 482 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,479 Speaker 3: a fantasy on a whole range of issues. But also 483 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 3: many of us can recall because it was only a 484 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 3: few years ago, you know what the great authoritarian scandal 485 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 3: of the Trump years were. I mean, the thing that 486 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 3: really was Trump crossing the line and violating the sanctity 487 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 3: of our democracy and all this stuff by his own 488 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 3: hand and by his own order, perhaps was when that 489 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 3: CNN reporter lost his hard pass access to the West 490 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 3: Wing for twenty four hours, meaning that he would have 491 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 3: to show his driver's license and get a guest pass instead. 492 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 2: Do you remember that was a journalist? Ohlast, Trump is 493 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 2: a dictator. It's an Acosta. 494 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 3: Do you have Acosta is gonna have to sign the 495 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 3: guest register like everyone else going into the White House. 496 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 2: His hard pass has been taken. It was crazy. 497 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. 498 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 6: One of the crazy things about Trump, buck is he 499 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 6: actually probably talked to the media way too much. If 500 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 6: you were saying, what should you do in a new term. 501 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 6: I would say, don't have as many interviews. 502 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 3: Well, don't sit down with Maggie Haberman for two hours 503 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 3: at a time and let her pick and choose what 504 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 3: she wants to report of what you've said. But in 505 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 3: terms of the you know, the whole Acosta thing and 506 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 3: Trump was Trump was the most accessible to the media 507 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 3: president in the history of the country by far. Nobody 508 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 3: else even close, nobody else, even in the same stratosphere. 509 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 2: Right. 510 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 3: And also the fact that he could go around the 511 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 3: media with Twitter. At the time, you it was a 512 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 3: first in American history where you had a president who 513 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 3: could share his thoughts in real time directly with the 514 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 3: American people. It was a pretty amazing thing. Sometimes a 515 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 3: highly amusing thing. I've said this before. 516 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 6: The only people who were awake when I would do 517 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 6: my early morning sports show where I felt like me 518 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 6: and Trump in media, I would hit you know, when 519 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 6: you hit the refresh on your Twitter feed and nothing 520 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 6: comes up, it's usually if that's happening, you're up really 521 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 6: early or you're up really late, one or the other 522 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 6: because everybody else is sleeping. I felt like everybody else 523 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 6: was sleeping sept for Trump and me. I do think 524 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 6: Buck I haven't seen anybody write this. I haven't hardly 525 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 6: seen it talked about Trump continues to benefit massively by 526 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 6: not being on Twitter. Because it's amazing to me how 527 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 6: lazy the average reporter is. They won't go to truth 528 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 6: social to see what he says, but when he tweeted it, 529 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 6: it would set off a firestorm and they would lose 530 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 6: their minds and we would have new news cycles based 531 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 6: on it. We really don't have truth social news cycles. 532 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 6: And I think it's because a lot of media are 533 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 6: too lazy to go to truth social and they have 534 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 6: to click, cut and paste it and they can't just 535 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 6: quote tweet in commonize. I think if you're just you're 536 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,959 Speaker 6: right about the general laziness of the media, and also 537 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 6: most of the Democrat corporate media's job. 538 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 2: It's important everybody knows us at home. 539 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 3: Most of their job is absorbing, repackaging, and distributing what 540 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 3: other Democrats are already saying in the media. Right, So 541 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 3: if you know, if you're working at Business Insider, you 542 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 3: see what they're saying over at the Washington Post and 543 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 3: has been picked up by the Chicago Tribune, and you know, 544 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 3: YadA YadA, and then you do your version of that 545 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 3: story too, with the same editorial. That's actually the job. 546 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 3: The job is the replication of the propaganda that comes 547 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 3: from the flagship Democrat publications. 548 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 4: Right. 549 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 2: I mean I know this because I know people have 550 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 2: worked at all these places. 551 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 3: And now I just got distracted. Now they're all losing money, 552 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 3: by the way. But but so we a second ago, 553 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 3: you just you just totally threw me off. I don't 554 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 3: know how we are we doing. 555 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 6: You were talking all about how the job is to 556 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 6: just replicate what already exists in the narrative structure of 557 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 6: the of the establishment. That Trump benefits from not being 558 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 6: on Twitter and being on truth Social. 559 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 2: There isn't the same. Yes, we're all in. 560 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 3: It's not just that they're they're lazy and do the 561 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 3: replication game, which that's what They're unwilling to download truth 562 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 3: Social because they view it as a icky Oh my omg, 563 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 3: it's the Trump app. I can't have this on my phone. 564 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 3: It's like literally tyranny on my phone screen. They won't 565 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 3: even have it because to have it means you get 566 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 3: counted in the truth Social download numbers. You get counted 567 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 3: in the truth Social ad numbers. I really believe this, 568 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 3: Like they they refuse to subscribe. 569 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 6: It is funny, and as a result, Trump gets his 570 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 6: message out to his base that really cares. But the 571 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 6: people who were always in an uproar over what he 572 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 6: was tweeting, they aren't in the same uproar over what 573 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 6: he is truthing. And it's really kind of remarkable, and 574 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 6: I think it's an example of how censorship is actually 575 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 6: working to hurt the left in this country. Because Trump, 576 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 6: even if they didn't like what he was saying, being 577 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 6: able to say it. 578 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 2: I think it benefited him. 579 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 6: I think a lot of you out there listening right 580 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 6: now kind of liked that Trump's not on Twitter all 581 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 6: day long every day because that frustrated some of you 582 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 6: sometimes because it took away the attention from things that 583 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,719 Speaker 6: might have mattered more. And as a result, he can 584 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 6: say whatever he wants on truth that doesn't dominate the 585 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 6: news cycle in the same way. 586 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 2: If your work. 587 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 3: Week is Monday through Friday, what do you have left 588 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 3: today in the way of energy. I gotta tell you, 589 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 3: I'm dragon a little bit today. At dinner last night. 590 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 2: Two glasses of wine. That's all it took and you 591 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 2: were done. 592 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 7: Two glasses of wine. And I gotta tell you. 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We're gonna 612 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 6: go up to New Hampshire By the way, our friend 613 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 6: Caroline Levitt, who you may remember, ran for congressional seat 614 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 6: narrowly lost up in New Hampshire. She is working to 615 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 6: try to get Trump elected. She's now going to be 616 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 6: his National Press secretary. And I think there's a good 617 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 6: chance that if Trump were elected president, she would end 618 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 6: up in the Kaylee mcananey role in the beginning of 619 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 6: her I mean, and this would be fun because she's 620 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 6: got a little bit of a feistiness tour. Anyway, we're 621 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 6: going to talk with her about both the New Hampshire 622 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 6: primary and what she's seeing on the ground there. But Buck, 623 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 6: I've got a clip for you. I don't know that 624 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 6: you've heard this at all. This is from the UFC 625 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 6: and I saw I love this guy. I love this guy. 626 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 6: I saw this guy. Yes, So if you guys have 627 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 6: not heard this, this is the u UFC middleweight champion. 628 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 2: He is fighting this weekend. 629 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 6: He goes on and when we've had to bleep it some, 630 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,239 Speaker 6: this is an explotive filled rant when he's asked a 631 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 6: question about whether he's being respectful or not enough of 632 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 6: gay people by a sports writer. 633 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 2: Listen to this cut. This is cut twenty. I did 634 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 2: want to ask you something you wrote a couple of 635 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 2: years ago. You said, if I had a gay son, 636 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 2: I would think, oh, like another another dason. I'm saying 637 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 2: the swamp. You guys a swamp. You've become a champion, 638 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 2: you become a star, and then someone let me ask 639 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 2: you something. Are you are you gay? I've had the chancel. 640 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 2: Are you let me know? Are you gay? Can I 641 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 2: get answered? Well, I'm asking this is the party? Are you? 642 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 9: Are you a gay man? 643 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 2: I'm an ally of the community. Okay. 644 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 9: If you had a son, then he was like, you know, 645 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 9: yees a son he was gay. You'd be like, oh man, 646 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 9: you don't you want. 647 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 2: A grand kid? Problem with it? 648 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 9: Oh man, Well you dude, you're a weak fan. Dude, 649 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 9: You're like you're part of the problem. You elected Justin Trudeau, 650 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 9: Like would you when he sees the bank account It's like, 651 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 9: you're just pathetic. He shut down your country and seize 652 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 9: bank accounts. 653 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 2: You asked me some stupid like that. 654 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 9: Gorse. 655 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 7: I just heard the Trudeau part of it, but I 656 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 7: didn't hear the preamble before it went on for a 657 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 7: The Trudeau slam was the part that I had seen 658 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 7: on a clip online, and I thought that that, I 659 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 7: like people slam and Trudeau for season the bank accounts 660 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 7: and all that. 661 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 2: I didn't know that he had had the preamble. 662 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 6: He's got all sorts of stuff and like he's a 663 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 6: little bit like he wore a shirt that said, I 664 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 6: think women's places in the kitchen men should have a 665 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 6: gun in their hands. 666 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,479 Speaker 2: Like he's clearly getting attention. 667 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 6: But what I thought was interesting about it buck was 668 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 6: and just for something for everybody else out there to 669 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 6: think about. Why do fighters, UFC, boxing, even WWE right, 670 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 6: Why can they say anything whatever their opinion is, whether 671 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,239 Speaker 6: you agree or disagree with it. 672 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 2: In the world of entertainment. 673 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 6: The only people that we allow to have complete freedom, 674 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 6: even if you think their knuckleheads, even if you think 675 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 6: they're saying things that are stupid. Fighters, UFC boxers, UFC fighters, 676 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 6: and WWE a little bit, but that's obviously sports entertainment. 677 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 6: More so, I just think it's an interesting precedent that 678 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 6: has been set where those guys have no restrictions whatsoever. 679 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 6: UFC obviously is a huge Trump fan base, and a 680 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 6: lot of the fighters are not. 681 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 3: And this guys are really so I don't I don't 682 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,280 Speaker 3: know anything again, I'd seen like a like the fifteen 683 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 3: seconds where he talked about Trudeau, which was circulating on 684 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 3: Twitter last night. He's very good at the fight. He's 685 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 3: he's the middleweight champ right now. Like, yeah, I mean 686 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 3: it's interesting. 687 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 6: I think that is like because if if an athlete 688 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 6: in another sport, or even an entertainer, like if you 689 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 6: were in a movie and you said anything like that, 690 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 6: people would be like. 691 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 2: You've got to be canceled immediately. 692 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 6: And I think we have a clip of sports media guy, 693 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 6: can we play that quickly and let buck hear it. 694 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 6: This is Dan Lebtard who's gone super woke down in 695 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 6: South Florida. One of the guys on his show is like, 696 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 6: ESPN can't allow this guy to fight after what he said. 697 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 10: Listen, I'm glad you made us play that video because well, 698 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 10: the UFC isn't gonna do anything about it. I would 699 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 10: challenge ESPN to make a public statement on this because 700 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 10: that kind of hate is going over their airways. The 701 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 10: Walt Disney Company, like, are you a chicken that you 702 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:25,399 Speaker 10: allow this with impunity regularly? But it's never been this vile. 703 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 10: The guy's wearing a T shirt that says women belong 704 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 10: in the kitchen, a gun in every hand. Disney's a 705 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 10: family company. Hell, Disney's a company. Take family out of it. 706 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 10: This is revolting. You have that guy's last name on 707 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 10: a pay per view at the very least, condemn it. 708 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 6: Ah, right, I mean I want everybody out there to think, 709 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 6: what if we just set a new precedent in the 710 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 6: world and we all just fought for it. People can 711 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 6: say whatever the heck they want, and you don't have 712 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 6: to agree with it, even if you might even find 713 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 6: it a little bit offensive. They still deserve the right 714 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 6: to make a lit I just think it's interesting that 715 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 6: the UFC and combat sports in general, all the athletes 716 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 6: can say whatever they want. Almost no other entertainers can. 717 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 6: I think it's because that's part of the UFC brand, right, 718 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 6: I mean, they're there. There's a kind of an alpha 719 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 6: male ferociousness that means that they're allowed to just sort 720 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 6: of say things that other people can. It also makes 721 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 6: for good copy for sports people to talk about. 722 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 3: But was he in Canada, by the way, why was 723 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 3: he talking about Trudeau? I think it's I think the 724 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 3: fights in Montreal then there we go. 725 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,800 Speaker 7: That's what so I agree with him on Justin Trudeau, 726 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 7: I'd have to listen to what he says about the 727 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 7: other stuff.