WEBVTT - Foundation Season 3 Episode 3

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<v Speaker 1>Warning, this episode contains spoilers for a Foundation season three

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<v Speaker 1>episode three. Hello, my name is Jason Sepsion and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Rosy Night, and welcome back to x ray Vision of

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<v Speaker 1>We'll bring you three episodes every week Tuesday Thursday, and.

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<v Speaker 2>The summer's biggest movies every Friday, plus news on Saturday,

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<v Speaker 2>plus news.

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<v Speaker 3>In today's episode, most importantly for me, as a new

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<v Speaker 3>space traveler in the world of Foundation, we are bringing

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<v Speaker 3>back our spice Master.

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<v Speaker 2>A boo, A boo.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for joining us.

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<v Speaker 4>Always a pleasure.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think this interests This is an episode that really

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<v Speaker 3>I have a lot of questions about in broadens the

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<v Speaker 3>wild a little bit, so let's talk about it.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm really excited to do this with you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Episode three, season three, When a Book Finds You. We

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<v Speaker 1>open three years ago, flashback to the library where Don

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<v Speaker 1>current Don was down. Then rise to the library and

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, I what do you got on psychohistory? Give

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<v Speaker 1>me all the books on psychohistory, and the library is like, ahaa,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take you to see the old books, and they

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<v Speaker 1>go back there. And what's very interesting is it's very

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<v Speaker 1>clear here that down is beginning to become work.

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<v Speaker 2>Is psychohistory curious? Hold on, do we get it wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe did cleon the whatever the whichever one he was back? Then?

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<v Speaker 2>Do we get it wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>Is psychohistory a lot more interesting with a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>to tell us about the world than we thought?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the case?

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<v Speaker 1>So he goes back there and they show him I

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<v Speaker 1>believe it's the ninth Book of Folding book right, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a Callan's ninth ninth Theorem of Folding, which was

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<v Speaker 1>a very a very important book, a source book for

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<v Speaker 1>Harry Seldon's work. And Donn is like, well, how did

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<v Speaker 1>you even get this book? And the library is like

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<v Speaker 1>super super cagey about it and is like, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>the person who left the book here said that if

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<v Speaker 1>anybody ever came looking for it, that we should tell them.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm going to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>And guess who it was who left that little message

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<v Speaker 1>and who brought the book back? It was Gaild her

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<v Speaker 1>periods of being awake when she was not frozen. Who

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<v Speaker 1>knows when this could have been like aboo, any idea

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<v Speaker 1>timeline wise when this might have happened.

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<v Speaker 4>I I'm unclear on that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I think it's got to be some time after

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<v Speaker 1>her for awakening, the first time she was unfrozen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think anyway, so day, I mean, excuse me.

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<v Speaker 1>Dusk, all disguised up, goes to a tea house to

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<v Speaker 1>meet this mysterious person.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Gail Dorning and they begin plotting together.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, how are you still alive? She's like, weird

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<v Speaker 1>question coming from you, but it's cryos.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, my guy, Like, what do you mean you

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<v Speaker 3>think of anyone?

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<v Speaker 2>Who else is it going to be?

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<v Speaker 1>So apparently Gail and the Foundation have been using the

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<v Speaker 1>Ninth Book as like a lure for.

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<v Speaker 2>People who are.

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<v Speaker 1>Have the same kind of mindset as what Foundation is

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<v Speaker 1>looking for. And Gale and Dawn they kind of spar

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth about like whose fault everything is? And

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<v Speaker 1>Dawn eventually tells Gail that the Empire has the prime

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<v Speaker 1>Radiant that Harry Seldon gave it to him.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a shock to Gail.

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<v Speaker 1>Don uh Is, like, listen, the data is obviously like

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<v Speaker 1>fucked and Demarzelle has been is the gate is the

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<v Speaker 1>Gatekeeper basically of the prime radiant data, and I believe

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<v Speaker 1>that she's interpreting the data in a way that is

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<v Speaker 1>only beneficial the Empire, not the galaxy, and I care

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<v Speaker 1>about the galaxy. So Gail's like, Okay, here's here's my

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<v Speaker 1>pitch escape Empire.

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<v Speaker 2>And we keep talking.

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<v Speaker 1>We deal with the threat of the mule, which I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna tell you is a big deal, and Don is like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll think about it, and he reaches out and then

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<v Speaker 1>his hand goes right through Gale's wrist.

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<v Speaker 2>She's a hologram.

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<v Speaker 4>A tough choice as far as disguises go. I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>so sure about the goate look for.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot more.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you guys seen the movie pop Star Never Stop

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<v Speaker 3>Popping Iconic Lone Moe, one of the funniest movies ever made.

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<v Speaker 3>I always think about when anyone puts on a disguise.

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<v Speaker 3>I always think about the Andy Sambak character. He puts

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<v Speaker 3>on like a full face of makeup, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>he does like a prostatic knows like that's how he

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<v Speaker 3>does it to hide from the press. And I always think,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, you guys are not doing enough what the

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<v Speaker 3>disguise is, Like, you got to really put that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you gotta go full mission impossible.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you need a fake mosque.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the facial recognition technology. However, many thousands of years

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<v Speaker 1>in the future, this has got to be great.

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<v Speaker 2>We go to the present.

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<v Speaker 1>Don reads a secret message, he destroys it. He gets

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<v Speaker 1>this little Gail communicator out and they start talking and

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<v Speaker 1>Gail tells Dawn that he needs to ask the council

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<v Speaker 1>to do like a siege, like let's let's let's completely

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<v Speaker 1>seal off Kalgan. Don is like, but, like, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>even imperial territory. It'll start a war with original og Foundation,

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<v Speaker 1>First Foundation. And Gail is like, let me handle the bitches.

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<v Speaker 6>She said, I it's like she was like, She's like,

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<v Speaker 6>Harry Selden gave me this ninth proof manuscript and twelve

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<v Speaker 6>O sixty seven, Like, come.

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<v Speaker 1>On, Mariam is a fucking pushover. And she's like, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>the mule. Nobody's getting it. We need to act now

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<v Speaker 1>because the mule quickly will become too strong for us

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with. And she warns Don that also it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna sound crazy, okay, but the mule can control people's minds,

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<v Speaker 1>and Don was like, what he's like, peace and then

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<v Speaker 1>she hangs up Kalgan. It's the big party. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>Mule Party, Torn Beta and Preitch. The spies enter Spicy

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<v Speaker 1>with no shirt.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we talk about the outsits?

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<v Speaker 3>I love this. It's like, you know, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like the opposite of being solid's like hiding and play insight.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, I gotta look extra sexy that no one would.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean he's live streaming. The whole thing is

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<v Speaker 4>a little like vlog Cambridge.

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<v Speaker 2>So fun. Okay, so it's spy time.

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<v Speaker 1>We see at the center of it all the Mules,

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<v Speaker 1>personal balladeer DJ Magnifico Giganticus.

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<v Speaker 5>This is why is this.

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<v Speaker 3>Is the funnest fantastic This is like the most fun

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<v Speaker 3>episode of this season so far. There's so much like

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<v Speaker 3>in depth political lore and kind of and Spycroft like

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<v Speaker 3>stage setting that the first two episodes do. But this

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<v Speaker 3>episode is.

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<v Speaker 5>Like a blost everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>They just sneaking on everyone and there's a potty I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>who doesn't want to be named Magnifico Giganticus is like

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<v Speaker 3>the best name of all time.

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<v Speaker 5>Like that's that's a bad name than duncan Idaho.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, come on, man, I absolutely love it.

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<v Speaker 1>They drop a mike Sure, ask name on us magnifical

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<v Speaker 1>and magnifico. Giganticus plays like it appears to be a

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<v Speaker 1>highly advanced like Beats Bluetooth speaker and is just like,

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<v Speaker 1>has the room and trance that mule.

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<v Speaker 5>Come out of that speaker, But it's not connected.

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<v Speaker 1>That the mule is just chilling watching it all. He's

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<v Speaker 1>with Scarlet and some other like his other top lieutenants.

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<v Speaker 2>Pritch comes over.

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<v Speaker 1>And bad idea. I think I don't know what Prichard

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking. Of course he doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Really yeah, yeah, what was the planner?

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<v Speaker 1>But of course he I guess theoretically isn't fully aware

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<v Speaker 1>of the mule's abilities, right, So the mule just like

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<v Speaker 1>is like, okay, great, I'm gonna scour your mind. Immediately

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<v Speaker 1>just goes like rifling through the files of his mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Is like, who's Gail Dornic by the way, And Pritchard

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<v Speaker 1>is like his brain partially broken, has to he like

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<v Speaker 1>immediately flees the party.

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<v Speaker 5>I cannot in this situation.

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<v Speaker 1>He's off planet in one hundred forty five seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually crazy.

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<v Speaker 5>I he was like, this is too much for me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm out. He knew his limits, and it was having

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<v Speaker 3>his brain scoured beta.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, smart idea is like, wait a second, the sky

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<v Speaker 1>gigantic Kiss appears to be central to.

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<v Speaker 2>The Mule's entire things.

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<v Speaker 1>The mule appears to be taking this guy from planet

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<v Speaker 1>to planet. Why don't we grab him and find out

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<v Speaker 1>what he knows? Meanwhile, Torren, seeing how Pritch failed, figures, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I can do better.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh look at my chest, Look at my abs.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going up there.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, no one would ever think I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 3>get any info.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't think about my brain. Just look at these abs.

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<v Speaker 3>Baby, can I rip through my mind through my body?

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<v Speaker 1>Say some of the most cut acting talent working to

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<v Speaker 1>day Baby Foundation, Pritch, Torn Mallows and of course and

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<v Speaker 1>Day like shredded guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I was going to say as well, Like the

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<v Speaker 3>biggest rumor right now is that Lee Pace is going

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<v Speaker 3>to be the DCU batman.

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<v Speaker 5>That's like the biggest room of room of.

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<v Speaker 3>Mil I'm saying Lee Pace said, I think that he

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<v Speaker 3>was in conversation about it. That has to be from

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<v Speaker 3>this show. Like, no question, I know James Gunn is

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<v Speaker 3>watching this show thinking, oh he's tall, he's cut he

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<v Speaker 3>can be like really weird six four baby, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Like batmanful. Torren goes over there and you know, under

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<v Speaker 1>the cover of like oh I'm streaming this still, like hey,

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<v Speaker 1>chat check it.

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<v Speaker 5>Out and with the Mule or on can I can subscribe?

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<v Speaker 5>Subscribe up with the mule?

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<v Speaker 2>You want to know about him? I'm gonna have a

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<v Speaker 2>drink with this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Mule is kind of tickled by Torrent and

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<v Speaker 1>is like, hey, it's a it's a cultural thing. On

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<v Speaker 1>my plan it that we trade insults.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's roast.

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<v Speaker 1>Just do it, roast battle and Torren gets pretty deep.

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<v Speaker 2>He does pretty well.

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<v Speaker 1>The mules impressed, and the Mule tells Torren because of this,

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, listen, I don't want to just rule Kalgan,

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<v Speaker 1>like this is a small change.

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<v Speaker 2>Chat you on me? You got the two gett.

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<v Speaker 1>I want I want the galaxy chat and then he

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<v Speaker 1>and then he like begins to peel like an orange,

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<v Speaker 1>the palm, the skin off Torren's pom as he's.

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<v Speaker 2>Telling them this.

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<v Speaker 1>So Torren, quick thinking, he uses his stream cameras with

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<v Speaker 1>like on flash mode to distract the Mule, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he and Beta flee the party with magnet with magnificent interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Abo thoughts on the Mule and this and.

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<v Speaker 1>This, this meeting confrontation between the spies of Foundation one

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<v Speaker 1>and the Mule.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I really pret she ate Beta stepping into

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<v Speaker 4>the limelight in this scene, because Beta is such a

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<v Speaker 4>great character in the books as well, and folks underestimate

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<v Speaker 4>Beta in the books, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, little girl, who are you?

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<v Speaker 4>What are you getting into? You're in over your head?

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<v Speaker 4>And then we see time and time again Beta surprise everybody. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and so I think seeing her step up in this

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<v Speaker 4>moment and actually do something that Pritch should have thought

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<v Speaker 4>of in the first place. Mister master Spy, you ran away?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, yeah, I'm like you.

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<v Speaker 3>I really like both of those ideas of using the

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<v Speaker 3>stream and talking to Magnifico so much better than Pritch

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<v Speaker 3>is just like, hey are you the Mule? Like no,

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<v Speaker 3>this guy is like a he's you know, he can

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<v Speaker 3>read people's minds, you can break people's minds. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a little skeptical in the first couple episodes

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<v Speaker 4>when Beta and Mallow were introduced as these like influencer

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<v Speaker 4>TikTok influencer kids, and I was like, Okay, that's an

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<v Speaker 4>interesting reinterpretation of these characters, but I do feel like

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<v Speaker 4>we're going back to the core of the characters.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, We go to trantour Day is with his

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<v Speaker 1>companion's song. They go to the barracks to watch the

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<v Speaker 1>soldiers shower.

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<v Speaker 2>Weird vibe.

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<v Speaker 1>Day finds his the commander who he's been gambling with

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<v Speaker 1>over you know, these last several months and perhaps longer,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, listen, you're gonna help me and my

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<v Speaker 1>girlfriend sneak out of the palace and you can come

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<v Speaker 1>with by the way, like it must. You know, don't

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<v Speaker 1>worry about any repercussions because you'll be with me. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>get out of here. And if you help, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that your daughter, who is ill, will

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<v Speaker 1>be healed by He doesn't say it here, but the

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<v Speaker 1>implication clearly is the healing nanites that the emperor has.

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<v Speaker 2>It will give them some of these.

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<v Speaker 1>So Dawn sees Demarzelle kind of walking through the gardens,

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<v Speaker 1>and he tells his companion that Demarzell's a robots.

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<v Speaker 5>She is shocked by that.

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<v Speaker 1>No one's supposed to know this, of course, but excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>Day spies Demarzell. But of course day Is Day is

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<v Speaker 1>like fully checked out of everything that's happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Why do you I want to know, why do you

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<v Speaker 3>think he tells song that? Because I I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>that's going to have like massive ramifications.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's he's gone a little soft, right like Empire. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>all three empires are always raised as the emperors of

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<v Speaker 4>this galaxy. They know how to do politics, they know

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<v Speaker 4>how to do espionage and subterfusion and manipulation. And I

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<v Speaker 4>think this day in particular is a bit of a

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<v Speaker 4>lover boy. He is in love and this is this

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<v Speaker 4>is his way of saying I love you, I trust you.

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<v Speaker 4>We're about to do this crazy thing together. We're going

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<v Speaker 4>to escape the PA and go off on her own.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know what harm does it do to tell you?

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<v Speaker 3>That makes a lot of sense because also Demoiselas also

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<v Speaker 3>like has a lot of control over his life, like

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<v Speaker 3>his kind of for this this like spooky presence to

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<v Speaker 3>him in this escape.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, I like that read. I think that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>I was actually very shocked when that happened though, because

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, this is like top secret, like last

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<v Speaker 3>Immortal Robot.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like you shouldn't be saying something, But I

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<v Speaker 5>like your love a boy.

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<v Speaker 3>Read that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Don and Dusk are arguing about the Mule, about what

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<v Speaker 1>to do about it. De Marcel senses this schism and

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<v Speaker 1>the tension. Dusk doesn't, frankly, understand why this is important

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<v Speaker 1>at all, and of course he is. His mind is

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<v Speaker 1>completely on the fact that in three or four days

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to be evaporated, and that's really what he's

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about, honestly, fat Don says. Don says, the Mule

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<v Speaker 1>is dangerous. We know he's been talking to Gail, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure Gail has been telling him Don, the Mule

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<v Speaker 1>is dangerous. He can put thoughts in your mind. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's why when we have our little conference with the Mule,

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<v Speaker 1>we should do it over video chat. So Don pitches

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<v Speaker 1>the Mule on Kligan becoming part of the empire and

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<v Speaker 1>if you refuse, you know, that could mean war. The

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<v Speaker 1>Mule says, great war.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. That's what I'm hoping.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, the Mule and his pirates are just like fully

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<v Speaker 1>looting Kalgan.

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<v Speaker 4>They're actually that they take over the MTA station. That's

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<v Speaker 4>what they're doing. In that moment. Oh wow, he says

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<v Speaker 4>something like the one of the officers says something like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>we've locked down the station, and so I think this

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<v Speaker 4>hints to us that the Mule has greater ambitions and

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<v Speaker 4>that he's actually seizing the means of transportation around calganhu Oh, I's.

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<v Speaker 3>So interesting, Like he's doing again crazy, just looting doing something,

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<v Speaker 3>but really he has like this big a plan.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And that was one of the threats from Don right.

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<v Speaker 4>Don was like, well, one of the things if you

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<v Speaker 4>join Empire, one of the things we can offer you

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<v Speaker 4>is access to the transportation system, the galactic transportation system,

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<v Speaker 4>the travel gates. You will be able to expand if

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<v Speaker 4>you want to. And so I think the fact that

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<v Speaker 4>he's just out here he was like Cathinkingham, Yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 4>taking them himself. He doesn't need Empire was the importation

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<v Speaker 4>I think.

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<v Speaker 2>On transwer various secret plans are taking shape. Days.

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<v Speaker 1>Discussing his escape plan with Song, she is like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm scared of Demarzel now now that I know

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<v Speaker 1>she's a robot. I'm like really freaked out about her,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe we should just stay because it's she would know.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and we get caught. It's too weird, and it's.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually scary out beyond up beyond the palace, like

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<v Speaker 1>let's stay here, and days like no, absolutely not, like

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<v Speaker 1>and by the way, let's just do let's just like

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<v Speaker 1>to have a normal chill day.

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<v Speaker 5>For Yeah, could we just have a chill day.

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<v Speaker 1>But before they can do that, Demosel is like, Day,

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<v Speaker 1>come see me in the library. We need to talk

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<v Speaker 1>in the throne room. Dusk and Dawn are continuing to

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<v Speaker 1>argue about the mule. Dawn says, Hey, I've got an

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<v Speaker 1>idea that I definitely didn't get from Gail Dornet. We

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<v Speaker 1>should put under blockade. Yeah, but we should seal it off.

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<v Speaker 1>We should seal off Calgan and Day shows up and

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, what's going on here? Dusk and Dawn think

0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Day is acting very strange. Dawn wants Day to call

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<v Speaker 1>because he's really the main guy. He's the theory. He's

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<v Speaker 1>still structurally the main emperor. So they're like pressuring him, listen,

0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:59.639
<v Speaker 1>you need to call an emergency session of the council. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>so we can discuss this mule stuff in the blockade.

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<v Speaker 1>Den Marosela is like, no, because if we do that,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be giving, that would be basically telling the

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<v Speaker 1>council that we can't do anything without them. Either we

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<v Speaker 1>do it unilateral unilaterally, or we don't do it. But

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<v Speaker 1>if we, if we bring in the Council, that will

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<v Speaker 1>embolden them. Don is like, okay, fine, but can we

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<v Speaker 1>at least put the kalgan in the mule under twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four to seven surveillance. It's not clear that any of

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<v Speaker 1>that is going to happen. Day produces a flask drinks

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<v Speaker 1>to strength, wisdom, and fortitude.

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<v Speaker 2>They all follow.

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<v Speaker 1>Suit and the Cleons have a nice moment together and

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<v Speaker 1>it's very clear that you know the the ascension day

0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:42.920
<v Speaker 1>is coming, and this is like a moment where they're

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<v Speaker 1>all like, okay, hey, we're all moving up and one

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<v Speaker 1>of us is moving out.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, some of us is later it's going to die.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, one of us is not going to be here.

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<v Speaker 4>Really, this was my favorite scene in the episode. First

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<v Speaker 4>tell me why. In particular, I liked the staging and framing,

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<v Speaker 4>the fact that all three of them are doing the

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<v Speaker 4>same hand motions throughout the way they sit in front

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<v Speaker 4>of their thrones, and the way that shot in particular

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<v Speaker 4>was framed I thought was really beautiful. And then I

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<v Speaker 4>really want to hand it to foundation. I think this

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<v Speaker 4>is a show that's not afraid to slow down and

0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:17.240
<v Speaker 4>dwell on moments like this, Like, yeah, we spent quite

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<v Speaker 4>a few minutes just hanging out here with these three

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<v Speaker 4>brothers slash clones, understanding that at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 4>like they are Empire, they are clones on the first

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<v Speaker 4>whatever they are and whatever they're supposed to be, at

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<v Speaker 4>the end of the day, they are still humans. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and this is a very human moment for three brothers

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<v Speaker 4>to share it together. I appreciated that the show took

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<v Speaker 4>the time to dwell on that.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that read because you know, definitely with season three,

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<v Speaker 3>I've been seeing a lot more like this is Game

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<v Speaker 3>of Thrones in space, like you go to jump in

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<v Speaker 3>and this scene definitely gave me that throwback feeling too.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to be able to remember the episode name, Jason,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure you will, but you know, the episode.

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<v Speaker 5>Before the bowel where it's just all.

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<v Speaker 3>Of them in the room, like having a conversation, sharing stories.

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<v Speaker 3>I love those kind of things, and I think you're right,

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<v Speaker 3>a boo, they spent more time here than I expected,

0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:13.840
<v Speaker 3>just allowing them to have that moment, you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>just kind of the gravitas of what's happening and the

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<v Speaker 3>importance of those characters being together and what it really

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<v Speaker 3>means to be one of them, because we mostly just

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<v Speaker 3>see like the scheming or the loving or the kind

0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:29.480
<v Speaker 3>of the fun parts, the scary parts, the terrible parts.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's great, a great moment and also something

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<v Speaker 3>that's important in a story that has so much going on,

0:21:39.520 --> 0:21:43.520
<v Speaker 3>Like there is so much law, so much kind of

0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:49.520
<v Speaker 3>important spycraft and plot lines and and and spaces and scenes.

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<v Speaker 3>So I love that this, this gives that a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit of time to breathe.

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<v Speaker 1>So Day meets with his commander gambling buddy, and the

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<v Speaker 1>commanders agreed, I'll sneak you out, but here's what you

0:22:02.359 --> 0:22:04.640
<v Speaker 1>guys need to do. You guys need to dress like shit,

0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:08.320
<v Speaker 1>you and your girlfriend so that nobody's gonna nobody's gonna

0:22:08.359 --> 0:22:12.040
<v Speaker 1>nobody's gonna look at you and days like. In return

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<v Speaker 1>for this, I'm gonna get you like a nice water

0:22:14.240 --> 0:22:18.920
<v Speaker 1>future for your future. Later, Demarzel comes to see down

0:22:19.200 --> 0:22:21.640
<v Speaker 1>at his garden palace.

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<v Speaker 5>Which we love, like come on iconic.

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<v Speaker 2>Where a song. Don is like, where is she?

0:22:26.840 --> 0:22:31.359
<v Speaker 1>Demarselle is like, well, basically hinting that she's dead or

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<v Speaker 1>as good as dead, and says that because songs ancient

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<v Speaker 1>religion had to do with robots, that was really bad

0:22:38.440 --> 0:22:41.840
<v Speaker 1>that you told her that, because she was not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to let that little bit of information go.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, her religion worships the robots. This is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be this, this type of cult is gonna be important

0:22:53.320 --> 0:22:57.760
<v Speaker 1>going for it's a very ancient robot worshiping cult. And

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<v Speaker 1>Demarcel says, you know, I could have killed her, but

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<v Speaker 1>instead what I did is I just like wiped her

0:23:04.000 --> 0:23:06.920
<v Speaker 1>memories and sent her back where she came from.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I did it for you. Bye, and days like

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<v Speaker 1>out and that is the end of episode three or three.

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<v Speaker 1>And I there's so many things happening, and there's so

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<v Speaker 1>many plots within plots, which is really fun. Aboo your

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts on this episode.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm having a great time with this season so far,

0:23:31.160 --> 0:23:33.600
<v Speaker 4>and I had a great time with this episode. I

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<v Speaker 4>think there were some highlights. In particular, I think the

0:23:37.359 --> 0:23:41.520
<v Speaker 4>mule scene with Beta and Mallow was really great. I

0:23:41.560 --> 0:23:44.680
<v Speaker 4>already called out the wonderful scene between the Empires where

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<v Speaker 4>we got to see them be human and honestly, I

0:23:48.600 --> 0:23:54.600
<v Speaker 4>will say this final scene where Demerzel is talking today

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<v Speaker 4>kind of made me emotional because Demerzel, I think she

0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:04.399
<v Speaker 4>specifically says at one point, like I don't have a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of choices in my life. Not killing your girlfriend

0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:11.240
<v Speaker 4>is a choice I made for you. That is how

0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:15.720
<v Speaker 4>I can show you my love. I could have killed her,

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<v Speaker 4>and in fact I should have killed her. That would

0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:20.159
<v Speaker 4>have been the way to actually nip this in the bud.

0:24:21.040 --> 0:24:23.359
<v Speaker 4>But I know you loved her, or at least you

0:24:23.359 --> 0:24:26.280
<v Speaker 4>felt something for her. So I made a choice, the

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<v Speaker 4>only kind of choice I can within the parameters that

0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:30.920
<v Speaker 4>I have to operate in as a robot. And I

0:24:30.960 --> 0:24:32.600
<v Speaker 4>think a big through line in this season that we

0:24:32.640 --> 0:24:35.560
<v Speaker 4>set up in the first couple episodes is this character

0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:39.360
<v Speaker 4>arc for Demerzel coming to terms with what's next for her,

0:24:39.440 --> 0:24:42.600
<v Speaker 4>what her own purpose is, what happens when Empire falls,

0:24:43.280 --> 0:24:46.160
<v Speaker 4>what does her future look like, and has she made

0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:48.000
<v Speaker 4>all of the right choices up to this point. She's

0:24:48.040 --> 0:24:50.760
<v Speaker 4>dealing with a lot of quote unquote human guilt but

0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:54.280
<v Speaker 4>has to work through it within the framework of her

0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:56.639
<v Speaker 4>robot processing. So I really appreciate you get.

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<v Speaker 1>The sense too that she doesn't even fully she's because

0:25:01.400 --> 0:25:04.240
<v Speaker 1>of like her sessions that she's having with Zephyr, where

0:25:04.240 --> 0:25:08.280
<v Speaker 1>she's trying to unpack like what what are my what

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<v Speaker 1>am I doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Like what what.

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<v Speaker 1>Are my intentions? Am I here trying to help empire?

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<v Speaker 1>Or am I working against them? Or or what do

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<v Speaker 1>I know about myself? You get you really get the

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<v Speaker 1>sense that she doesn't know from minute to minute exactly

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<v Speaker 1>why she is doing the things that previously made so

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<v Speaker 1>much sense to her before. And it's really interesting to

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<v Speaker 1>watch the different emperors like grapple with the fact that like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>in four months, this shit is older us and for

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<v Speaker 1>for for for dusk, excuse me, it's over even quick

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<v Speaker 1>sooner than that, And all of them while pretending that oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're dealing with the mule, and we're dealing with the foundation,

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<v Speaker 1>We're dealing with all these things kind of normal things right,

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<v Speaker 1>even though they are they're various crisis situations. All of

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<v Speaker 1>them are also thinking, Okay, I need my exit strategy

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<v Speaker 1>days like get me out it don is like I

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<v Speaker 1>think this whole thing is gonna come apart unless I

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<v Speaker 1>lie with Gail Dornick, who I don't even know actually

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<v Speaker 1>who she works for at this moment, and then Dusk

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<v Speaker 1>is Dusk made a.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know why.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that like a universe destroying bomb, like the most

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<v Speaker 3>extensive bomb, Like it doesn't It was over the top.

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<v Speaker 5>It wasn't just like a little bomb.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't like an anarchist cupbook bomb like this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, by the way, have you seen this video

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<v Speaker 1>of me like trying to run away while being from

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<v Speaker 1>my execution?

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<v Speaker 2>And also like can we push that deadline back?

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, I was gonna say a boo and Jason,

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<v Speaker 3>both of you know more about this than me. Something

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really feeling about season three is like it feels

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<v Speaker 3>like it's a lot about kind of the way that

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<v Speaker 3>people don't really have choice in this world, Like everything

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<v Speaker 3>is set out for you for the good of you know,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever side you're on.

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<v Speaker 5>And I found that that was really interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that's why the demoisel thing hits because

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<v Speaker 3>just like the human you know, inverted commas clone characters,

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<v Speaker 3>which everyone to think she actually like wants, has wants

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<v Speaker 3>and needs and things that she liked, but she doesn't.

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<v Speaker 5>She isn't allowed to put them out there.

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<v Speaker 3>And that moment where she makes the choice to allow

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<v Speaker 3>someone to live, I think is just really powerful in

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<v Speaker 3>a world where kind of everyone is trying to run

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<v Speaker 3>away from the fact that they don't have a choice

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<v Speaker 3>in their life. They don't really they can't choose anything

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<v Speaker 3>because everything is set out ahead of them. Over All

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<v Speaker 3>this kind of insane amount of period of time that

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<v Speaker 3>you can't even.

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<v Speaker 5>Really consider how long it is.

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<v Speaker 3>I just think it's a I think it's a really

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<v Speaker 3>interesting thing for sci fi to explore in a way

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<v Speaker 3>that we haven't really seen before on this Gael Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean the question of like predestination lingers over this

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<v Speaker 4>entire series over the is it even possible? And I

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<v Speaker 4>think like what's always so interesting is like this is

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<v Speaker 4>also just the question of fate and faith, right, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's just put in scientific terms. It's psychohistory and Harry

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<v Speaker 4>Selden as your prophet versus you know, whatever religion and

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<v Speaker 4>whatever prophet you know insert name and certain religion, and

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<v Speaker 4>ultimately it still comes down to the same human questions, right,

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<v Speaker 4>Like we are still watching Empire, all three of them

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<v Speaker 4>crash out because.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just like PRIs absolutely in.

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<v Speaker 4>The face of a faith they they didn't believe in

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<v Speaker 4>in season one and in fact rejected and now have

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<v Speaker 4>come around to where to the point where Don is

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<v Speaker 4>like looking for the ancient texts and out here communicating

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<v Speaker 4>with Gail Dornic, one of the leaders of this you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the foundation. So like that question, Sho, definitely, Rosie, You're

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<v Speaker 4>absolutely correct. This idea of how much autonomy and choice

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<v Speaker 4>do I have if the math shows this is what's

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<v Speaker 4>going to happen. That lingers over every character, over every

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<v Speaker 4>book of this series, and it's one of the most

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<v Speaker 4>interesting parts of.

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<v Speaker 2>It for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I think that for me. There's like a

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<v Speaker 1>quantum mechanics idea here too, where oh, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>idea that when you observe something, you naturally change it,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's happening here too, where sure, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>Selden's formula was accurate, but as soon as you start

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<v Speaker 1>paying attention to as soon as that has been revealed

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<v Speaker 1>to you, the future.

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<v Speaker 5>Is changing now because you're aware of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you're aware of it, and we're seeing that all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, where you know, the math is way off.

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<v Speaker 1>The dark Ages are coming in four months. Nobody knows

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<v Speaker 1>why the math is off. But except for all these

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<v Speaker 1>like huge variables that have been introduced, like the mule

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<v Speaker 1>and like Gail Dornic currently being a lot, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all these all these things that weren't in the original formula.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's interesting because I think what it's saying is, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we do have free will, but but you can't necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>square that any kind of prediction of the future. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because as soon as you become aware of a prediction

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<v Speaker 1>of the future, you've changed it enough where the prediction

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be off enough somehow.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, fun episode, Yeah, Love.

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<v Speaker 1>Next time an extra vision, we're gathering our round table

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