WEBVTT - #817 Packers Unscripted: Success in Seattle

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot Com. I and Mike Spafford, joined as always

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<v Speaker 1>by my partner in crime, Weston Hodkowitz. We're coming to

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<v Speaker 1>you or hear from our studios at Lambeufield to review

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<v Speaker 1>WES A thirty to thirteen victory on Sunday night football

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<v Speaker 1>at Seattle, A big one for green Bay. It gets

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers to ten and four. We'll talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>whole playoff scenarios and situations later on, but with this

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<v Speaker 1>win on the road against a team that was leading

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<v Speaker 1>the NFC West, this one starts with how fast the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers started. Drive for a touchdown or win the toss,

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<v Speaker 1>take the ball, drive for a touchdown, a third down, sack,

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<v Speaker 1>you get the ball back, you drive for another touchdown,

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<v Speaker 1>and this game will fourteen to nothing before Seattle had

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<v Speaker 1>run offensive play number six or whatever, whatever the case,

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<v Speaker 1>was a big time start on the road and that

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<v Speaker 1>carried Green Bay to a big win.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's ever been Again, I'm not patting

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<v Speaker 2>us on the back. I'm just saying in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>us in a general, anybody outlining the.

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<v Speaker 3>Keys of victory for the Packers.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if we've ever had an episode of

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<v Speaker 2>Final Thoughts that hit everything on the head as well

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<v Speaker 2>as this one did. The Packers checked.

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<v Speaker 3>Every box, Yeah, they did.

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<v Speaker 2>That first quarter was about as picture perfect as what

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<v Speaker 2>you could have asked for for Green Bay to start

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<v Speaker 2>a football game. And it was interesting listening to Matt

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<v Speaker 2>Lafuir talk about it after the game. You know, the

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<v Speaker 2>first three plays were pretty much what was scripted, and

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<v Speaker 2>then after that he just started riding Josh Jacobs because

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<v Speaker 2>Seattle couldn't stop him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you end.

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<v Speaker 2>Up having a ten play I think it was sixty

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<v Speaker 2>three yard scoring drive that finishes with the one yard

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<v Speaker 2>Josh Shacobs touchdown run, and for the third time this season,

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<v Speaker 2>he had over one hundred yards from scrimmage in the

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<v Speaker 2>first half, the first time since Week thirteen of last season.

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<v Speaker 2>The Packers scored on their back to back opening possessions,

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<v Speaker 2>scored touchdowns on back to back opening possessions. That stadium, Mike,

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<v Speaker 2>You've been there more times than I have. This was

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<v Speaker 2>my fourth trip to what is now known as Lumen Field.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been in there during the NFC Championship game in

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty fourteen to fifteen season. It can get loud,

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<v Speaker 2>it can get boisterous, it can be a very difficult

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<v Speaker 2>environment to play in, and there was no shortage of

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<v Speaker 2>a dozen Go Pack Go chants throughout that game from beginning,

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<v Speaker 2>middle and end. It wasn't perfect. There's things Green Bay

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<v Speaker 2>needs to clean up yet, but in terms of checking

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<v Speaker 2>every box that the Packers needed to to open up

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<v Speaker 2>this game, especially after a week in which Seattle had

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<v Speaker 2>put up seventeen points in the first quarter against Arizona,

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Laflour could not have been much happier with what

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<v Speaker 2>he saw in those first fifteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'll definitely comment on the fans because, as you said,

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<v Speaker 1>I have been to that stadium numerous times. It had

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<v Speaker 1>been six years since we had been there. But I

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<v Speaker 1>said this an insider inbox, I have never seen a

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<v Speaker 1>green Bay Packer contingent that strong in that stadium before.

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<v Speaker 1>It was really something you mentioned we could we could

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<v Speaker 1>hear the gopak go chance in the press box. And

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<v Speaker 1>then when it really hit me is actually the next

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<v Speaker 1>day after the game, I was watching, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>the full highlight package that we have on our website,

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<v Speaker 1>which is with the TV calls and everything like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and every highlight in that package where the Packers are

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<v Speaker 1>making a big play, you can hear the crowd through

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<v Speaker 1>the TV broadcast. Games in Seattle are just not are

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<v Speaker 1>not like that. And so hats hats off to the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers fans who who showed up and showed out for

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<v Speaker 1>that game, because that was that was really something, because

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't NFC West leading a division leading Seahawks team

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<v Speaker 1>with a heck of a lot on the line. It's

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<v Speaker 1>prime time at their place late in the season, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers fans were were a big time story in

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<v Speaker 1>that game.

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<v Speaker 2>And it wasn't even like the Bear situation where they've

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<v Speaker 2>just unraveled and they're in this losing street that won't end.

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<v Speaker 2>Seattle had won four in a row going into this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to ask you this, and we got to

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<v Speaker 2>get back to this game too. But the drive up

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<v Speaker 2>to the game, I don't know how much time or

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<v Speaker 2>how much you paid attention to people in the street

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<v Speaker 2>as we were driving up. That was my first indicator

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<v Speaker 2>here that this thing is going to be different. There

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<v Speaker 2>was so much green and gold and so many cheeseheads

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<v Speaker 2>when we were just simply driving through Seattle from our

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<v Speaker 2>team bus trying to get into the stadium.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we had a fairly short ride from the downtown

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<v Speaker 1>hotel to the stadium where I started to realize it

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<v Speaker 1>wes I'll be honest. Both Saturday night and during the

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<v Speaker 1>day on Sunday, before going to the stadium, I was

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<v Speaker 1>spending a lot of time with my brother in law.

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<v Speaker 1>He lives out lives out in Seattle, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we were kind of out and about walking around both

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<v Speaker 1>in the evening on Saturday as well as then during

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<v Speaker 1>the day on Sunday, and it started to hit me.

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<v Speaker 1>Even going down to the market and the waterfront. They've

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<v Speaker 1>done a whole nice like reconstruction, whole redevelopment of the

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<v Speaker 1>wor waterfront down there. Just walking around, I was seeing

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<v Speaker 1>so many Packer sweatshirts, Packer jackets, packer caps and stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and I started to realize, maybe this game is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a little bit different. I wasn't really paying that

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<v Speaker 1>much attention on the bus ride. I was probably in

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<v Speaker 1>my phone looking at other scores of the games that

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<v Speaker 1>were going on whatever. But Saturday night and during the

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<v Speaker 1>day on Sunday, I definitely started to get a sense

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<v Speaker 1>like there are more Packers fans. It was the type

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<v Speaker 1>of thing that we had seen in La, in Jacksonville,

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<v Speaker 1>other places like earlier this season, not the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>thing we've seen in Seattle before. But I started to

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<v Speaker 1>get that feeling and it turned out to be true.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think probably what influenced me too is I

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<v Speaker 2>did the PEP rally the night before when you were

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<v Speaker 2>spending some time with family.

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<v Speaker 1>Yea.

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<v Speaker 2>And a great turnout for it, our packers everywhere, folks

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<v Speaker 2>Brandon Market did a tremendous job putting it on, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was being out there as well. And how many

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<v Speaker 2>people came up to me after the PEP rally and

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<v Speaker 2>talked about and this is the point I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 2>make with this. You know, it had been six years

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<v Speaker 2>since the Packers have played there. Yeah, there was a

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<v Speaker 2>time where the Seattle almost felt like a pseudo NFC

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<v Speaker 2>North team.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And there were so many people that came up to

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<v Speaker 2>me on the West coast saying, you know, they don't

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<v Speaker 2>get out to Green Bay. How excited they were that

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<v Speaker 2>the Packers were finally back. People from California, Oregon and

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<v Speaker 2>obviously Seattle and Tacoma and Washington and people showed out. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>that is something that I honestly, there were so many

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<v Speaker 2>positive things that happened in this game that needed to

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<v Speaker 2>be written about, need to be touched on. But I'll

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<v Speaker 2>tell you what, man, I was probably this close from

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<v Speaker 2>actually just doing a notebook lead on what that crowd

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<v Speaker 2>was like, because so many guys afterwards said it really

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<v Speaker 2>did feel.

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<v Speaker 3>Like a home game.

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<v Speaker 2>The amount of noepack go chance, and especially not just

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<v Speaker 2>like randomly when the offense was on the field, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Gino Smith and Seattle's offense had to deal with it

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<v Speaker 2>right away. The defense for Green Bay felt it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely it was. We've seen it in other places, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>not in Seattle before, and that's what made this one

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<v Speaker 1>this one pretty special. You mentioned the opening drive ten

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<v Speaker 1>plays for the touchdown finished by Josh Jacobs. Jacobs gets

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<v Speaker 1>the ball on nine of the ten plays. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about you talk about war course, but also,

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<v Speaker 1>as you said, Seattle wasn't stopping him, so the Packers were,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, while he was fresh and everything, and if

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<v Speaker 1>the Seahawks weren't gonna be able to stop him, the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers were going to feed him the football. The Packers

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<v Speaker 1>won the battle up front. Not just with Jacobs, but

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<v Speaker 1>and also how they were protecting Jordan Love and Jordan

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<v Speaker 1>Love had a pretty clean game back there in the pocket.

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<v Speaker 2>Love played extraordinary and being able to establish the run

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<v Speaker 2>I thought really set up Jordan for a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>what he accomplished in this game. And when you have

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<v Speaker 2>those type of weapons and you establish, you know, Josh

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<v Speaker 2>Jacobs as a pass catcher as well early on, I

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<v Speaker 2>felt like that's what started to open things up for

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<v Speaker 2>them a little bit more. You got Jayden Reed back

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<v Speaker 2>involved after last week they were struggling to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of the big plays were there again with Christian Watson,

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<v Speaker 2>including a defensive pass interference penalty both him and then

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<v Speaker 2>at the first the end of the first half with

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<v Speaker 2>the one that Romeo Dobbs drew. Both of those plays

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<v Speaker 2>were critical, even though they ultimately don't show up in

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<v Speaker 2>the box score, but contributed to six points and six

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<v Speaker 2>points that while you want to finish, those drives are

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<v Speaker 2>what kind of countered what Jason Myers had did with

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<v Speaker 2>making his two field goals for Seattle. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think enough can be said about Romeo Dobbs being able

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<v Speaker 2>to come back off the concussion going through the protocol,

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<v Speaker 2>deciding to wear the Guardian cap, wanting to be better

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<v Speaker 2>safe than sorry. The first touchdown, he plows through two

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<v Speaker 2>Seattle defenders to get into the end zone, if you said, drive,

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<v Speaker 2>to put his team up fourteen to nothing, and then

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<v Speaker 2>coming down the stretch when Green Bay was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>faltering a little bit offensively, he was able to punch

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<v Speaker 2>that in as well makes a tremendous catch in the

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<v Speaker 2>back of the end zone. Only three catches for forty yards,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's those type of things that you've come to

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<v Speaker 2>expect from Dobbs and Love's ability to navigate through all

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<v Speaker 2>that and find his right receivers, find the guys he

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to go to. At the football I just felt like,

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<v Speaker 2>and as Mattlafourt said, they're not throwing the ball as

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<v Speaker 2>much as they did last year. But I thought the

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<v Speaker 2>way that Jordan did it, I think completing seventeen of

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<v Speaker 2>his first nineteen in this game, it was so effective

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<v Speaker 2>at just managing the situations and especially early on, being

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<v Speaker 2>able to control the tempo of that game.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, I thought it was. It was a big

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<v Speaker 1>time performance from Dobbs coming back after missing the two

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<v Speaker 1>games he gets. He gets in the end zone twice

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<v Speaker 1>twice in very different ways, but a showcase of his

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<v Speaker 1>abilities both as a pass catcher and as just a

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<v Speaker 1>powerful athlete. And then with Christian Watson, I actually just

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<v Speaker 1>posted a story on our website shortly before we turned

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<v Speaker 1>the cameras on. Here Watson now over a five game stretch.

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<v Speaker 1>This is five games he is averaging like thirty yards

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<v Speaker 1>per catch right now, like he has become a big

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<v Speaker 1>play machine. Plus the long play the pass interference that

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<v Speaker 1>ended up being a thirty nine yard gain. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>Watson the way he adjusted to the ball in the

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<v Speaker 1>air on the sideline throw and then was able to

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<v Speaker 1>make the catch and ten the toes and stay in bounds,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was a tremendous play. And then not

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<v Speaker 1>one of the bigger plays, but a shorter play that

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<v Speaker 1>converted a third down where he makes the diving catch

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<v Speaker 1>on the extended play with love, you know, sort of

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<v Speaker 1>throwing a low throw to keep it away from the

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<v Speaker 1>defender and Watson goes down and grabs it, moves the

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<v Speaker 1>chains there, keeps the drive alive. Christian Watson is really

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<v Speaker 1>really coming into coming into his own offensively on the

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<v Speaker 1>defensive side. This one starts with Edger and Cooper, And

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<v Speaker 1>as you said, we sort of set the stage for

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things that we talked about last week

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<v Speaker 1>going into this one, and we had talked about Cooper

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<v Speaker 1>being back at practice it was looking like he was

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<v Speaker 1>going to play, and what kind of a chess piece

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<v Speaker 1>that he can be for Jeff Haffley the defensive coordinator,

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<v Speaker 1>and how he's used in the pass rush, how he's

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<v Speaker 1>used dropping into coverage, and Boy edgering Cooper played a

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<v Speaker 1>way of a game, a super high impact game, had

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<v Speaker 1>the sack early, had the inner late, making other plays

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<v Speaker 1>in between, big time performance from the rookie who, as

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<v Speaker 1>everybody is saying, is just starting to scratch the surface

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<v Speaker 1>of the player he can become.

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<v Speaker 2>And as Matt Lafleur said too, it wasn't just what

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<v Speaker 2>he did on defense. His his first play back was

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<v Speaker 2>a special teams coverage tackle. He finished with two coverage

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<v Speaker 2>tackles in this game as well. It seems like every

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<v Speaker 2>time we talk about Eddrian Cooper, it when he had

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<v Speaker 2>some injuries early on this season, then he misses the

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<v Speaker 2>three games with the hamstring, but when he comes back,

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<v Speaker 2>the way this defense performs, the way they play it

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<v Speaker 2>is different, it looks different, it feels different, and their

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<v Speaker 2>ability to sprinkle him in where he plays thirty four

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<v Speaker 2>defensive snaps in this game. He has five tackles, two

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<v Speaker 2>for loss. He has two passes defense. He finishes the

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<v Speaker 2>interception after he drops the first one. He has the

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<v Speaker 2>first of seven sacks that Green Bay has defensively, when

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<v Speaker 2>you look for guys that are going to not only

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<v Speaker 2>be explosive play makers, but really kind of energize your defense,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what he does with his speed, with his athleticism,

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<v Speaker 2>and so many times, Mike, I look at that box score,

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<v Speaker 2>and I look at his bio on our website and

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<v Speaker 2>it says six foot two, two hundred and twenty eight

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<v Speaker 2>twenty nine pounds. When you stand next to him, when

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<v Speaker 2>you watch him play, does he look like somebody who's

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<v Speaker 2>sixty to two, two hundred and thirty pounds. I would

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<v Speaker 2>have said he's sixty four to two forty like Kay Walker.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's just he.

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<v Speaker 2>Is just an explosive athlete. So whether he's trailing guys

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<v Speaker 2>in coverage, whether they're using him as that third down option,

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<v Speaker 2>as a potential inside linebacking Blitzer, that just the guy

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<v Speaker 2>continually makes plays. And now this week is up for

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL Rookie of the Week award, which fans can

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<v Speaker 2>vote on. I said it to a person on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe it was either on Sunday night or it

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<v Speaker 2>was on Monday Days. Kind of get messed up here

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<v Speaker 2>with how everything's been going. Just to Tad, but he

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<v Speaker 2>reminds me so much right now of how dom Capers

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<v Speaker 2>utilize Clay in twenty fifteen, when and they were starting

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<v Speaker 2>to transition him back to outside linebacker, but they would

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<v Speaker 2>still use him as an inside option every once in

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<v Speaker 2>a while. You don't know where Edgrin Cooper is coming from.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't know where and when Jeff Hafley is going

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<v Speaker 2>to deploy him. Yeah, and I think that makes it

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<v Speaker 2>really dangerous. There will come a time where he will

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<v Speaker 2>be an every down player this defense. It may still

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<v Speaker 2>even be this season with Kwai Walker's injury coming up here,

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<v Speaker 2>but fornight right now, this guy is giving you everything

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<v Speaker 2>you could want more from a rookie second round pick.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And I agree with you totally that the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>defense just looks different when he's out there on the field.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned the seven sacks Packers continually pressuring Gino Smith

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<v Speaker 1>and then also backup Sam Howell. When Smith went out

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<v Speaker 1>of the game, he ends up He ends up leaving

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<v Speaker 1>the game on a pressure by Edger and Cooper. The

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<v Speaker 1>seven sacks kings Leannebari gets two of them of Howell

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<v Speaker 1>on basically on the same series, Devonte Wyatt gets a

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<v Speaker 1>sack Rareshaun Gary gets when Carl Brooks gets a whole

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of pressures. One of his pressures sets up the

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<v Speaker 1>Gary sack. Another one of his pressures, along with Eric Wilson,

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<v Speaker 1>sets up the bad throw that Carrington Valentine picks off

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<v Speaker 1>in the end zone. The second year corner Valentine, he

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<v Speaker 1>gets the first interception of his career. Couldn't have come

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<v Speaker 1>at a better time in a lot of ways. The

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<v Speaker 1>score is the score. The Packers are in control of

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<v Speaker 1>the game. It's seventeen to three, but you're late in

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<v Speaker 1>the first half. The Seahawks are going to get the

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<v Speaker 1>ball coming out of halftime because the Packers had elected

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<v Speaker 1>to receive when they won the toss at the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of the game, and the Seahawks are in the red

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<v Speaker 1>zone on third down. You're looking at minimum it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be seventeen to six, possibly seventeen to ten if

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<v Speaker 1>the Seahawks get a score there and Valentine reads the

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<v Speaker 1>sort of desperation throw toward the back corner of the

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<v Speaker 1>end zone. Smith is throwing off his back foot because

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<v Speaker 1>of the pressure from Brooks and Wilson, and he's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to hit Noah Fant the tight end going towards the

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<v Speaker 1>back corner. Williams is guarding Fan. Valentine is on Smith Jigba,

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<v Speaker 1>but he sees where the ball is headed and he

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<v Speaker 1>peels off his guy makes a leaping interception in the

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<v Speaker 1>end zone. Huge turning point in the game, quite frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>because then the Packers ended up going into halftime up

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<v Speaker 1>twenty to three. It was a three score game at intermission.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't able to get much into it just based

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<v Speaker 2>on all the content that we had going up. But

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<v Speaker 2>I thought Xavier McKinney was really good on this after

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<v Speaker 2>the game, because he talked about how a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the deception they were doing with their safeties was causing

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<v Speaker 2>Gino Smith and then eventually Sam Howell a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>problems they couldn't delineate or decipher when the Packers were

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<v Speaker 2>in too high or single high and they got caught

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<v Speaker 2>in that. It almost led the first time to the

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<v Speaker 2>Carrington Valentine pick.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the play right before, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they come back the next play and as

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<v Speaker 2>you said, there was so much pressure there and Gino

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<v Speaker 2>made a mistake. He put that thing out there, and Carrington,

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<v Speaker 2>much to his credit, this is the guy that still

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<v Speaker 2>was chasing his first as I say chasing because he

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't chasing, but he's still looking for his first NFL interception. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he bounces back from what should have been, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a potential definitely an interception. You know, you only know

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<v Speaker 2>how far he might have been able to take that

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<v Speaker 2>thing if he picks it off clean to being able

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<v Speaker 2>to bounce back the next play and get it. Matt

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<v Speaker 2>lefor jokingly said, well, not jokingly, he was serious, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know, said he wishes Carrington would have stayed in

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<v Speaker 2>the end zone after he intercepted it.

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<v Speaker 1>Takes a touch back there, young man still.

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<v Speaker 2>Took it back out to the fourteen, obviously excited about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I talked with Carrington about the play afterwards. He said

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<v Speaker 2>it was about darn time that he finally got that interception.

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<v Speaker 2>But I thought that was a really good reward for

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<v Speaker 2>him because this is a guy that has played a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of critical, important football, considering he was a seventh

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<v Speaker 2>round pick a year ago out of Kentucky who was

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<v Speaker 2>an early entrant that didn't have a ton of college

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<v Speaker 2>stats and it was all based on potential. And he's

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<v Speaker 2>come into the door and played really well for Green

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<v Speaker 2>Bay out of the stretch. And also, you know, not

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<v Speaker 2>having Gyr Alexander, you needed somebody like that to step up,

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<v Speaker 2>and Valentin did.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was that was a big time play for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>The Packers nearly nearly dominated this game from start to finish.

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<v Speaker 1>It ended up that they didn't. Unfortunately, some mistakes happened

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<v Speaker 1>in the second half. I just want to say this

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<v Speaker 1>though I'm not I'm not excusing the mistakes the Packers made,

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<v Speaker 1>but I am really tired of the narrative out there

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<v Speaker 1>that Matt Lafleur supposedly just wants to sit on a lead.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's then and that's why these teams are always

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<v Speaker 1>coming back. You have to look at what happened. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a play action, rollout, aggressive call down the

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<v Speaker 1>field throw Jordan Love just missed it with Romeo Dobbs

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<v Speaker 1>being open on the on the rollout to the right,

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<v Speaker 1>it happens, you know, poor execution. Throw wasn't quite there,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't able to make the catch. Josh Jacobs has a

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<v Speaker 1>huge hole. Maybe he gets tripped by the guy on

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<v Speaker 1>the ground. Maybe he does, I'm not sure, but he

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<v Speaker 1>ends up stumbling and then the ball gets punched out

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<v Speaker 1>and you get eternal. A later in the fourth quarter,

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<v Speaker 1>a third and two, Packers go aggressive. They're gonna throw

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<v Speaker 1>the ball and unfortunately Jayden Reid, who is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be wide open because the Seahawks are totally committed to

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<v Speaker 1>stopping Josh Jacobs on third and two, Reid is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be wide open, but unfortunately he slips, falls down

0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:29.399
<v Speaker 1>on his route. The pass just falls harmlessly incomplete. The

0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Packers made mistakes that didn't allow them to put this

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<v Speaker 1>game away any earlier. But this narrative about how it

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<v Speaker 1>was their approach or it was the play calling or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever like, just stop with that nonsense. That is not

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<v Speaker 1>why the Seahawks got back into the game. They got

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<v Speaker 1>back into the game because of some mistakes the Packers made.

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<v Speaker 1>They were trying to be aggressive, had plays there that

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<v Speaker 1>could be made. They weren't made. The defense faltered once, really,

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, just faltered the one time, allowing the

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<v Speaker 1>Charbonnay touchdown run after after the Jacobs fumble. But then

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<v Speaker 1>after that the defense rose up, was getting the sacks

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<v Speaker 1>of how got the interception by Cooper. So the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>were this close, in my opinion, to completely dominating that

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<v Speaker 1>game from starting to finish, and they know the mistakes

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<v Speaker 1>they made, and quite frankly, as much as Matt Lafleur

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<v Speaker 1>always likes to credit the opponent, the mistakes the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>made and not putting this game away were just on themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes they were one hundred percent, were just on themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't what the Seahawks were doing, in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 3>So this.

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<v Speaker 1>The way this game started, was a huge step forward

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<v Speaker 1>for the Green Bay Packers as they looked to make

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs and try to make a playoff run. They

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<v Speaker 1>still know there's just that little bit more out there

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<v Speaker 1>for them because they did let a team back in

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<v Speaker 1>the game that probably shouldn't have been in the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry for the long diatrab, I just had to get

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<v Speaker 1>that out there because I'm tired of the way it

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<v Speaker 1>has been talked about amongst this fan base in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of why these things happen. You just have to look

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<v Speaker 1>at it.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to.

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<v Speaker 1>Understand the facts and how things actually occur before your

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<v Speaker 1>criticism is worthwhile.

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<v Speaker 3>And my dad said it too after the game, I shoulday.

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<v Speaker 2>The day after we got back to Green Bay, I

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<v Speaker 2>went ate dinner with my parents and you know, he said,

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, you know, they played well, it's a human game, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's going to be for all the things that

0:20:21.520 --> 0:20:23.159
<v Speaker 2>went wrong for Seattle. There were a few things that

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<v Speaker 2>went wrong for Green Bay too. I thought what was

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<v Speaker 2>more important though, was how Green Bay's defense picked up

0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:33.320
<v Speaker 2>the offense in the second half when Seattle had chances.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, mostly the Packers defense held them in check.

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<v Speaker 2>Charbonet breaks out that twenty four years I was.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the one play the defense that was holding

0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:43.520
<v Speaker 1>them to field goals and getting stops. Otherwise, the one

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<v Speaker 1>play was the Sharboney touchdown run that got out the

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<v Speaker 1>back end. Other than that, I thought the Packers' defense

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<v Speaker 1>really held them in check for the bulk of the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and as I said to you as we were

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<v Speaker 2>getting ready to board the plane, and I felt like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, seven layers of hell like the Packers. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Gino Smith got hurt, I get it. Sam Hall came

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<v Speaker 2>in and did not play well. No, but you got

0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:07.399
<v Speaker 2>to play the team that's out there. The Packers were

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<v Speaker 2>in a situation much like Keishawn Nixon said a few

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<v Speaker 2>weeks ago. I mean, they were in a spot where

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<v Speaker 2>they had to go with their backup quarterback for two

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<v Speaker 2>starts in a bulk of three games, and Malik Willis

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<v Speaker 2>got the job done. It's just the way this game

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<v Speaker 2>gets played. Defensively. I like what I saw though, they

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<v Speaker 2>especially that defensive front mic. I mean, I tweeted this

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<v Speaker 2>out on Monday, but the Packers very suddenly are up

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<v Speaker 2>to forty sacks on the season. And yeah they've had

0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:32.960
<v Speaker 2>a bulk of those happen in two games, but they're

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<v Speaker 2>finding ways to win, and it's multiple pass rushers. Kingsley

0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:38.439
<v Speaker 2>in Igbari. I mean, you cannot say enough about the

0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:40.320
<v Speaker 2>fact that he got his first two sack game in

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<v Speaker 2>a three play spam. You're seeing a guy like Brenton

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<v Speaker 2>Cox Junior, who up until the Presst Smith trade had

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<v Speaker 2>not played at all this season. Now he's up to

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<v Speaker 2>three sacks. Aaron Moseby I said this during the game.

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<v Speaker 2>The guy's actually a really good zone dropper. He has

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<v Speaker 2>multiple pass deflections now when he's dropping from the zone

0:21:58.320 --> 0:22:01.200
<v Speaker 2>coverage when they're doing some of those semi related pressure luck, which.

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<v Speaker 1>Is probably the biggest thing he's had to learn. Quite

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<v Speaker 1>frank one, hundreds of times of his transition. The college

0:22:06.119 --> 0:22:08.440
<v Speaker 1>playery was to the player that the Packers are trying

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<v Speaker 1>to develop him into in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep in mind, this is the guy at one point

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<v Speaker 2>in his college career was a safety. So you're finding

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<v Speaker 2>ways to use these guys' skill sets to your advantage

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<v Speaker 2>when they've changed him into a pass rusher and things

0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:21.560
<v Speaker 2>like that. So be that as it may. The Packers

0:22:21.560 --> 0:22:23.399
<v Speaker 2>found a way to get out of Seattle with the victory.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a It was great being in that locker

0:22:25.800 --> 0:22:27.960
<v Speaker 2>room the first time the locker room that there has

0:22:28.000 --> 0:22:30.880
<v Speaker 2>been so much sadness and so many did so much disappointment,

0:22:31.760 --> 0:22:35.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, the last I'll never forget that twenty fourteen game,

0:22:35.359 --> 0:22:38.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, with Tremont Williams understanding what that meant for

0:22:38.359 --> 0:22:40.119
<v Speaker 2>him and where he was going to be going after that,

0:22:40.240 --> 0:22:42.800
<v Speaker 2>and guys that felt like they were right there and

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get it. Not that this makes up for it, no,

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<v Speaker 2>but for a place that the Packers hadn't won in

0:22:47.520 --> 0:22:49.359
<v Speaker 2>sixteen years, to play the way they did and to

0:22:49.359 --> 0:22:51.879
<v Speaker 2>finish a game thirty to thirteen over a team that

0:22:52.280 --> 0:22:54.080
<v Speaker 2>is eight and six and still in control of their

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<v Speaker 2>destiny for the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot there to be proud of.

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0:23:22.280 --> 0:23:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Packers are ten and four. The Buffalo Bills went into

0:23:25.640 --> 0:23:29.600
<v Speaker 1>Detroit and beat a banged up Lions team that continues

0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:33.160
<v Speaker 1>to get more banged up with each passing game, so

0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:37.560
<v Speaker 1>the Lions long winning streak is snapped. They dropped to

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<v Speaker 1>twelve and two Minnesota Beach Chicago on Monday night, so

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<v Speaker 1>they are twelve and two. So the top three teams

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFC West twelve and two, twelve and two,

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<v Speaker 1>ten and.

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<v Speaker 3>Four NFC What did I say, NFC West.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, NFC North, Sorry, I was on the whole sea.

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<v Speaker 3>The Packers swept the West. Maybe that's what you were.

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<v Speaker 1>Saying, Yeah, something like that. Top three teams in the

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<v Speaker 1>NFC No. Twelve and two, twelve and two, ten and four.

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<v Speaker 1>What that means for green Bay is that, in the

0:24:06.280 --> 0:24:09.000
<v Speaker 1>simplest terms, the Packers are one win away from clinching

0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:11.639
<v Speaker 1>a playoff spot. If green Bay gets to eleven wins,

0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:15.880
<v Speaker 1>they are in the playoffs, regardless of anything else that happens.

0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:20.760
<v Speaker 1>So Monday Night against New Orleans, if the Packers coming

0:24:20.800 --> 0:24:23.919
<v Speaker 1>back to Lambeufield can get that win, it'll be uh,

0:24:23.960 --> 0:24:28.879
<v Speaker 1>it'll be a playoff spot secured. They can clinch a

0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:33.600
<v Speaker 1>playoff spot before Monday Night based on Sunday's results, But

0:24:33.880 --> 0:24:38.680
<v Speaker 1>it would require the Falcons losing and either the Rams

0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:43.040
<v Speaker 1>or the Seahawks also losing, would you which We'll see

0:24:43.040 --> 0:24:47.479
<v Speaker 1>what happens there and and we'll certainly talk we'll certainly

0:24:47.520 --> 0:24:51.160
<v Speaker 1>talk more about New Orleans on our next show leading

0:24:51.200 --> 0:24:54.040
<v Speaker 1>into the Monday Night game. But I tell you, Wes,

0:24:54.040 --> 0:24:57.960
<v Speaker 1>it's really interesting now. Not only not only is there

0:24:57.960 --> 0:25:00.919
<v Speaker 1>a tie atop the NFC North at twelve two between

0:25:01.000 --> 0:25:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Detroit and Minnesota, but the Philadelphia Eagles are also twelve

0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:07.120
<v Speaker 1>and two because they got a big home win over

0:25:07.160 --> 0:25:12.399
<v Speaker 1>the Pittsburgh Steelers the battle for Pennsylvania. So there is

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to be decided here in terms of not

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<v Speaker 1>only the NFC North Championship, but just the seating at

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<v Speaker 1>the top of both at the top and the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>of the NFC in terms of how the playoff seating

0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:30.679
<v Speaker 1>is going to shake out, There's still long ways to

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<v Speaker 1>go here before we're going to know exactly the lineup

0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:34.840
<v Speaker 1>one through seven.

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<v Speaker 2>I do want to mention this because you mentioned all

0:25:36.640 --> 0:25:39.680
<v Speaker 2>the scenarios which the Packers can get. In Atlanta's hosting

0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:42.760
<v Speaker 2>the New York Giants. You have the La Rams are

0:25:42.760 --> 0:25:45.159
<v Speaker 2>traveling to met Life to face the New York Jets,

0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:47.840
<v Speaker 2>and then Seattle has a real tough tilt against the

0:25:47.840 --> 0:25:49.679
<v Speaker 2>Minnesota Vikings, though they get to stay at home for

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<v Speaker 2>that one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I really enjoyed what Matt Lafleur's message was with the

0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:56.880
<v Speaker 2>media on Tuesday morning when he met with us, because

0:25:56.920 --> 0:25:59.720
<v Speaker 2>he was asked about the playoffs and the possibility of

0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:03.080
<v Speaker 2>Clinton get the playoffs, and in it wasn't trying to

0:26:03.119 --> 0:26:07.280
<v Speaker 2>create a Jim Mora type SoundBite, but basically made it clear,

0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:09.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't give a whot about the playoffs right now.

0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:12.480
<v Speaker 2>There's three games the Packers need to win. They are

0:26:12.960 --> 0:26:15.280
<v Speaker 2>heck bent on trying to win all three of those

0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:17.720
<v Speaker 2>games and then seeing where the chips fall from there.

0:26:18.200 --> 0:26:20.959
<v Speaker 2>Certainly there's gonna be a tough game opponent on Monday Night,

0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:23.400
<v Speaker 2>although it sounds like Derek Carr will not be available

0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:26.359
<v Speaker 2>for it, as he potentially could be out the remainder

0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:28.520
<v Speaker 2>of the season based on some of the reports out there.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be the Spencer Rattler Show, the Spencer as far

0:26:31.280 --> 0:26:38.359
<v Speaker 1>as Rattler show. But again, this was so critical for

0:26:38.440 --> 0:26:41.639
<v Speaker 1>the Packers to win this game. When you were looking

0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:44.560
<v Speaker 1>at all these scenarios and all these variables in the

0:26:44.600 --> 0:26:49.159
<v Speaker 1>New York Times simulator for the playoffs, everything gets exponentially

0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:52.080
<v Speaker 1>clearer in terms of Green Bay's pats to the playoffs.

0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Now that they've beaten the Seattle Seahawks. They hold the

0:26:55.200 --> 0:26:57.720
<v Speaker 1>tiebreaker over the Seahawks, they hold the tiebreaker over the

0:26:57.800 --> 0:27:01.119
<v Speaker 1>Rams the one they don't hold the tiebreaker of Atlanta.

0:27:01.520 --> 0:27:04.399
<v Speaker 1>But Atlanta trying to claw its way back into the

0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:07.240
<v Speaker 1>NFC South, if it would win the last three games

0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:10.280
<v Speaker 1>of the year, would have to beat Washington, which affects

0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:12.840
<v Speaker 1>the Packers. It also could potentially get them to win

0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:15.520
<v Speaker 1>the division, which maybe that would require Tampa Bay to

0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:18.919
<v Speaker 1>fallout of contention. There's all these different things you have

0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:21.359
<v Speaker 1>to consider in addition to the fact that Kirk Cousins

0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:23.679
<v Speaker 1>is still not playing very well right now, did not

0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:26.919
<v Speaker 1>play well in Vegas. So the Atlanta Falcons did not

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<v Speaker 1>call a pass play on first down in the entire

0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:34.320
<v Speaker 1>game last night, Like what I understand, You have Bijon

0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:37.040
<v Speaker 1>Robinson and he handed the ball off on first down

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<v Speaker 1>all night long.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, which I would have done the same exact

0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:42.840
<v Speaker 2>thing the other aspect of this. And just to bring

0:27:42.880 --> 0:27:47.240
<v Speaker 2>it back to this past weekend's game. Outside of Buffalo

0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 2>taking care of business in Detroit and holding off the

0:27:49.640 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 2>Lions during whatever that was during the fourth quarter that happened,

0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:55.600
<v Speaker 2>Green Bay didn't get a lot of help. In terms

0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:57.879
<v Speaker 2>of the week fifteen. You had the Rams beat the

0:27:57.880 --> 0:28:02.800
<v Speaker 2>forty nine ers, you had the Saints not being able

0:28:02.800 --> 0:28:05.920
<v Speaker 2>to pull off the comeback in the upset all Washington.

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<v Speaker 1>Big time comeback maybe made the gutsy call to go

0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:10.359
<v Speaker 1>for two on the after the touchdown on the last

0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:13.280
<v Speaker 1>play of the game. They get the touchdown there, down

0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 1>by a point, they decided to go for two instead

0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:17.480
<v Speaker 1>of play for overtime. Washington gets the stop and the

0:28:17.520 --> 0:28:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Commanders survive and get their ninth win.

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:24.080
<v Speaker 2>The Chargers didn't even bother showing up against Tampa Bay.

0:28:24.640 --> 0:28:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Minnesota destroys the Bears. The Bears kept going on fourth down,

0:28:29.960 --> 0:28:34.160
<v Speaker 2>it didn't matter. Pittsburgh struggles against Philadelphia and then obviously,

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:37.200
<v Speaker 2>like I mentioned already, as bad as Kirk Cousins played, still,

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:40.200
<v Speaker 2>the Falcons out gunned the Raiders, who now seem to

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:43.520
<v Speaker 2>be in pole position here from the maybe Shador Sanders sweepstakes.

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 2>So Green Bay did what he needed to do. It

0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:48.800
<v Speaker 2>won the game, and here they are now at ten

0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:49.120
<v Speaker 2>and four.

0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:50.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, ten and four.

0:28:50.200 --> 0:28:52.360
<v Speaker 2>By the way, man, dude mention this at all, not

0:28:52.400 --> 0:28:54.320
<v Speaker 2>to jump over you. Hopefully they didn't screw up Zach's

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:57.360
<v Speaker 2>camera's work there. Kenny Clark said this in the locker room.

0:28:57.400 --> 0:28:59.160
<v Speaker 2>Mightn't even think about this. He actually said, it's like, yeah,

0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:01.200
<v Speaker 2>it's been a minute since he won ten games, and

0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:03.200
<v Speaker 2>I thought about it for a second. I'm like, yeah, yeah,

0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:05.400
<v Speaker 2>it has been it's been three years since the Packers

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 2>won ten games in a season.

0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:09.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, ten games in the regulars, regular season. So the

0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 1>tenth tenth win was in the playoffs last year.

0:29:12.440 --> 0:29:14.000
<v Speaker 3>They needed eighteen to get in last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, but uh here here's I'm glad you brought

0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 1>up a little bit about next week's next week's schedule

0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL, because I'm actually glad. I'm actually glad

0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:28.720
<v Speaker 1>that the Falcons, even as much as they're struggling, I'm

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:30.160
<v Speaker 1>glad that they're playing the Giants.

0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:33.520
<v Speaker 1>I want the Falcons to beat the Giants, because I

0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:35.640
<v Speaker 1>don't I don't want the Packers to have clinched their

0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:38.440
<v Speaker 1>playoff spot before Monday Night. I want the Packers to

0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:41.120
<v Speaker 1>take the field Monday night at home, in front of

0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:44.200
<v Speaker 1>what hopefully is a very fired up, excited crowd, to

0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:46.400
<v Speaker 1>go out there and beat the Saints and clinch their

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 1>playoff spot that way, not from scoreboard watching during the

0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:52.280
<v Speaker 1>day during the day on Sunday, and then you have

0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:54.400
<v Speaker 1>a whole day on Monday to kill before you have

0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 1>to go out there and play. I mean, I'm hoping

0:29:57.640 --> 0:30:00.320
<v Speaker 1>the Falcons. I'm hoping the Falcons beat the Giants, because

0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:02.920
<v Speaker 1>if that happens, it doesn't matter what happens with the

0:30:03.000 --> 0:30:05.760
<v Speaker 1>Rams and the Seahawks. The playoff spot's not clinched. The

0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Packers would take the field on Monday night and can

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:10.000
<v Speaker 1>and just clinch it on their own. That's what I

0:30:10.040 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 1>want to see.

0:30:10.440 --> 0:30:12.760
<v Speaker 2>If there's anything you know about me, and you've known

0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 2>me for pretty much all my adult life and you've

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:17.640
<v Speaker 2>worked with me for almost a decade now, I am

0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:20.800
<v Speaker 2>definitely a bird in the hand guy. I will take

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:22.440
<v Speaker 2>that playoff spot as soon as.

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 3>It will come.

0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:25.640
<v Speaker 2>But that being said, I agree with you, and I

0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:28.160
<v Speaker 2>think that's the same message that Matt Lafleur is preaching

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:31.280
<v Speaker 2>right now. It's not about Week sixteen. It's about the

0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:33.560
<v Speaker 2>full breadth of an eighteen game regular season and where

0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:36.520
<v Speaker 2>that positions you for the playoffs. He already talked about

0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:38.360
<v Speaker 2>it with Larry, He talked about it with you guys

0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:41.160
<v Speaker 2>after the game. They want to be road warriors. They

0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:45.000
<v Speaker 2>understand that. Barring some really bizarre circumstances here in the

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:48.120
<v Speaker 2>NFC North, which would have a multitude of layers to it.

0:30:48.160 --> 0:30:49.120
<v Speaker 3>If they could actually.

0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 2>Win this thing in the last three weeks, they're going

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 2>to have to go on the road and they're going

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:54.840
<v Speaker 2>to have to play in some hostile environments in order

0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:57.880
<v Speaker 2>to make a Super Bowl run. They're embracing that, and

0:30:57.920 --> 0:30:59.880
<v Speaker 2>I think one point I tried to make it in

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<v Speaker 2>or inbox on Tuesday was whether it's the games in

0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:04.720
<v Speaker 2>which they've won they're five and two on the road,

0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:06.520
<v Speaker 2>or the games in which they lost, in which they

0:31:06.560 --> 0:31:09.080
<v Speaker 2>heard probably the most ruckous Ford Field Stadium we've ever

0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:12.840
<v Speaker 2>heard before. The Packers now are experiencing all of this,

0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:15.000
<v Speaker 2>and I feel like in the long run, for a

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 2>very young football team, a team that is still very young,

0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:19.280
<v Speaker 2>that is going to benefit them.

0:31:19.360 --> 0:31:19.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, we will talk on our next show about a

0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:26.240
<v Speaker 1>Saints team that is motivated, that is fired up, that

0:31:27.000 --> 0:31:29.960
<v Speaker 1>maybe as close to mathematically out of it as you

0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:32.840
<v Speaker 1>can be, but they aren't playing like it. And we'll

0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:34.720
<v Speaker 1>get into that. It's in a couple of days.

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:35.600
<v Speaker 3>It is bizarre, though.

0:31:35.640 --> 0:31:37.640
<v Speaker 2>Look, and you know we're again we were talking before

0:31:37.640 --> 0:31:39.640
<v Speaker 2>we started the show. I'm doing the game program for

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:41.479
<v Speaker 2>this week and we're on the normal schedule, even though

0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:44.000
<v Speaker 2>it's the Monday Night game. I mean Marcos Veldez Scantling

0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:46.520
<v Speaker 2>is one of their starting receivers right now. Quez wasn't

0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:48.719
<v Speaker 2>even on the team two months ago. I mean they

0:31:48.760 --> 0:31:50.960
<v Speaker 2>had been beat up at certain positions, not all of them,

0:31:50.960 --> 0:31:51.920
<v Speaker 2>but certain positions.

0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:52.920
<v Speaker 3>You got to get the.

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<v Speaker 1>Job done though, yeah, absolutely before that. Be among the

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