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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, top of the art. To you, it's Friday.

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Speaker 1: for the best damn combat sports show period. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: right here. It's Morning Combat, Friday, August eighteenth, twenty twenty three. Hey,

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Speaker 1: Luke Thomas may have been advertising that opening monologue, but

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Speaker 1: He's not only here when you call, but he's always

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Speaker 1: his own and shack. Anytime I get to mix it

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Speaker 1: Are you ready? To bang.

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Speaker 2: Listen, I have not been shy about the fact that

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Speaker 2: So I got up this morning, watched Max versus Vulk,

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Speaker 1: Ooh wow on point right now, Shaq. I love in

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Speaker 1: PC moo moo indeed right there. Thank you to Gaffbier,

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Speaker 1: Long Island, Luke on the ones and twos from WALCA.

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Speaker 1: We love you, we appreciate you. Great show for you guys. Today,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna look back at the fight week in the

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Speaker 1: begin this evening and Hey, you don't know much about

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Speaker 1: this guy Shack. How about we get to know him

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Speaker 1: a little bit better later in the show, and Shaq,

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Speaker 1: MK trivia p one challenge. You're gonna be the guinea

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Speaker 1: know the boys from MK? All right, you ready for that?

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Speaker 1: All right, all right, already setting himself up for failure.

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Speaker 1: from BC in British Columbia. The dedication knows no limit. Check.

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Speaker 1: So welcome back to this great family. Here have we

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Speaker 1: the fight, Shack, are you back? Are you ready to go? Here?

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I just think it's sort of top level

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Speaker 2: I do believe they did, I don't see how that's

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Speaker 1: DJ's thirty seven, but as he has told us a

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Speaker 2: That's the thing, right, We're talking about DJ, who is

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Speaker 2: Like I think that Demetrius Johnson, whether he's your goat

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot would have to happen there. Finally, in

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Speaker 1: terms of fight week storylines, how about this Chris Widman,

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Speaker 1: on a prelim. That's a bad idea end quote Jack,

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Speaker 2: Although I could be mistaken, is something maybe I'll get

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Speaker 1: There's too many cancelations and recoveries at this point.

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Speaker 2: Who knows either way your point stands, you know, I

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Speaker 2: what sells pay per views the most, Brad Tavares is

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Speaker 2: respect for Brad Tavaras he's a ve Listen to this.

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Speaker 2: In twenty two UFC fights, he has not gotten a

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Speaker 2: single post fight bonus, no fight of the Knights, no

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Speaker 1: and that's the kind you're trying to entrap in that

428
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Speaker 1: spot to buy the pay per view for what you

429
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Speaker 1: said there. So I'm fine with it. If Widman wants

430
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 1: to use it as motivation, that's fine. But Shack, he

431
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,400
Speaker 1: hasn't been to be honest, he's lost six of eight

432
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 1: and he hasn't been a guy that we truly look

433
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,639
Speaker 1: at as a elite title contender in like six or

434
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,640
Speaker 1: seven years, to be very fair on where he's at

435
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 1: right now. So I'm fine with at the end of

436
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Speaker 1: the day. But you caught up with him on your

437
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,360
Speaker 1: Shack MMA channel, which I always recommend people should subscribe

438
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 1: and check out your interviews in full if they like

439
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,920
Speaker 1: the little teasings we get. But we got a couple

440
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,760
Speaker 1: of clips with Chris and this has been a a

441
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,679
Speaker 1: I don't want to say, undertold story. It's fallen a

442
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 1: bit under the radar. Of course of the is al Joe,

443
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 1: the Bandonwait go is it? The Sugar Show take over

444
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,400
Speaker 1: all that, But Widman's comeback is no laughing matter. Look,

445
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 1: he can say all he wants that he's gonna, you know,

446
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 1: rebuild and become a champion again, and that motivation maybe

447
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,359
Speaker 1: is what got him here. But to me, see, this

448
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 1: fight is more about the human spirit, the struggle, the overcoming.

449
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 1: What'd you learn this week? Talking to Chris?

450
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 2: There were a lot of lessons learned for him during

451
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 2: this time in a myriad of ways. You know, on

452
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:19,680
Speaker 2: a personal level, what's life gonna look like after fighting? Right?

453
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 2: He said once as he was being stretchered out of

454
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 2: that cage that the only thought looping into his mind

455
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 2: was will I ever be able to play with my

456
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,679
Speaker 2: daughters again? Right, So, when you suffer an injury like that,

457
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 2: it really puts things in perspective. There's certainly an element

458
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 2: of frustration that he kind of had to learn to

459
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,199
Speaker 2: cope with because it wasn't just the leg break. Right.

460
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 2: We'll kind of get to it in the clips, but

461
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 2: there were multiple surgeries, there were infections, like just constantly

462
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 2: this feeling of I'm getting better and then I'm getting worse.

463
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 2: And Anderson Silva took I think eleven months to recover

464
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Speaker 2: from his leg break. It's been twenty eight months since

465
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,679
Speaker 2: we've seen Chris Widman fight, So this has been a

466
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 2: really long battle for the guy. He's always had the

467
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 2: self belief that he's gonna be a world champion again.

468
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 2: I know that's tough to believe. I guess we'll see

469
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 2: how he executes at thirty nine. You know, he's never

470
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 2: been like the biggest knockout threat. We know the power

471
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 2: is the last thing to go. It's gonna be a

472
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 2: tough guy. But that's a tough climb for him. But

473
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 2: that's kind of always been the ethos of Sarah Langa, right,

474
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 2: Matt Sarah beating GSP, Chris Widman beating Anderson Silva, al

475
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 2: Joe beating pyotr Yan twice, Like, this is the camp

476
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 2: that breeds underdogs. So you're not gonna get anything less

477
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 2: than this level of self belief from a guy like

478
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Speaker 2: Chris wat.

479
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Speaker 1: And a nice tease. He wrote a fantastic feature this

480
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Speaker 1: week on CBS Sports about the success of the Sarah

481
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Speaker 1: Alongo camp there on Long Island and the champions they

482
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Speaker 1: produce and the culture they've built. So I do encourage

483
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: everyone to go to cbssports dot com slash mma to

484
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 1: check that out. But Jack, you talk with Chris, And

485
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: by the way, Chris mentioning to Brad Tavars at the

486
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Speaker 1: press conference of you know, let me get one kick

487
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 1: in there before you check it, and I'll let you

488
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 1: get one back was kind of humorous. But here's Widman

489
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: talking to Shaq about throwing those kicks again and testing

490
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 1: those legs in training camp.

491
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Speaker 2: They won.

492
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,239
Speaker 3: As soon as I was limping inside the gym, I

493
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 3: knew the one thing I was going to be afraid

494
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 3: to do was kick. So I just made sure I kicked.

495
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 3: I started with the heavy bag and start kicking that

496
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 3: thing a little harder, a little harder. And then the

497
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Speaker 3: next ten now and a place farm with people I trust,

498
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 3: the people I know aren't gonna check me, and I'm

499
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 3: throwing like kicks at them, you know, nice and light,

500
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 3: you know, just feeling it out. And that's been It's

501
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 3: been a long two years of recovering and again to

502
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 3: the point of where I'll kick right through someone's leg

503
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 3: right now, like I don't give a crap.

504
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Speaker 1: Wow, shack tremendous. Sure you're wearing that interview.

505
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Speaker 2: Was I was at a bachelor party during that uh

506
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Speaker 2: during that.

507
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Speaker 1: Interview, tireless work ethic. Our second clip is what you

508
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: referenced earlier that it wasn't just let the leg repair

509
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 1: and let's get back in there. There were a lot

510
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Speaker 1: of ups and downs in Chris's journey, which is why

511
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 1: I think rightfully, So we're all giving him those props

512
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: and flowers for making this personal journey of getting back

513
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: to this point and doing it for himself. Let's hear

514
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Speaker 1: Chris's story over the life last two years.

515
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 3: We've had four surgeries, infections, in and out of hospitals,

516
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 3: tons of ups and downs, hopes and then hopes just

517
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 3: crashing down. And so it's just lots of ups and

518
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 3: downs and just a lot of focus on focusing on

519
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 3: each day and just winning each day as opposed to

520
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 3: like I need to get into a fight like and

521
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 3: being upset that I'm out there yet like I just

522
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 3: kind of put that all out. I couldn't control it.

523
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Speaker 3: And every day I just tried to get my leg

524
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Speaker 3: a little bit stronger, a little bit more healthy.

525
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Speaker 2: And here we are.

526
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Speaker 1: Here we are, Shack. He looks like a young thirty nine,

527
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: that guy. I mean, I'm a wash forty five. But

528
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: what Wyman still looks like prime widmen there, at least facially.

529
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Speaker 1: We'll see how that leg holds up. Shack. Let's transition

530
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: here into topic number two. We're not gonna okay, bet you,

531
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: because that's a Luke Thomas and Brian Campbell concert experience.

532
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: Threat in the making.

533
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 2: There.

534
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Speaker 1: We are going to hit you up with some breakdowns

535
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Speaker 1: here in who we like heading into UFC two ninety

536
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,479
Speaker 1: to our main event bantamweight title on the line as

537
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: Algje main Sterling looks to extend to a tenth straight

538
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 1: win on this run, looks to own the record for

539
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: bandamwaight title defenses in the UFC and also take over

540
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:17,479
Speaker 1: number one on most bantamweight title fight victories. Trying to

541
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: push himself further away from the dominant cruise the TJ.

542
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: Dillashaws of the bantamweight history world behind him, Shack are

543
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: friends at Caesar's at the moment minus two point fifty

544
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: Al Joe plus two oh five for the Sugar Show Shack.

545
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: When you look at this matchup, what's going to be

546
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Speaker 1: the deciding factor in your eyes in terms of who

547
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: gets their hand raised?

548
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 2: Saturday night? Listen, this is a modern day Matt Classic

549
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 2: matchup of striker versus brappler. Right, O'Malley is statistically the

550
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 2: best striker in the history of the bandamweight division. He's

551
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 2: number one all time in significant strike accuracy, strikes landed

552
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 2: permitted almost seven point five And here's the big one

553
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 2: striking differential four point zero four, so he's landing more

554
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 2: than four punches or kicks for everyone that's coming back

555
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 2: we saw him. I know a lot of people think

556
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 2: he lost the Yon fight, but the third round was

557
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 2: his on all three judges scorecards. I don't know how

558
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 2: he's gonna look in five rounds, but he certainly can

559
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 2: carry that power late. We've seen he's got a strong

560
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 2: camp behind him. During his leg injury, his jiu jitsu

561
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 2: improved super rapidly. So Sean O'Malley is a guy who

562
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 2: can be dangerous from start to finish. He's the best

563
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 2: striker in this division. He works like a dog, so

564
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 2: he aljo asked to kind of mind his p's and

565
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 2: q's from start to finish. That being said, look, one

566
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 2: day someone is going to solve the grappling and back

567
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 2: takes of al Jamaine Sterling. But if he could land

568
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 2: four takedowns on Olympic gold Olympic gold medalist wrestler Henry

569
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 2: s Hudo, even with the lingering injuries that he's been

570
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 2: dealing with, I don't know the Chaan's the guy that's

571
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 2: gonna be able to fend him off. I think short

572
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 2: of landing that perfect strike or that perfect combo. I

573
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 2: don't think he can keep al Joe off his back

574
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 2: for five rounds. This might be like a three and

575
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 2: two on the scorecards. But I do favor al Jamain Sterling.

576
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you have to hear. I think the

577
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 1: ads makers and nailed that. It's not just solving the

578
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: question of the fact that Aljo's biggest strength is O'Malley's

579
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: greatest weakness. I think what finally woke me up to

580
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 1: not being not an al Jo hater, but a guy

581
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 1: who's sort of like, Okay, he's very good, but is

582
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: he really great in a division that has all time

583
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: great depth is the evolution of his striking and the

584
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: fact that you just can't look great against him. You

585
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: just can't be comfortable and getting your rhythm against him.

586
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: He's long, he makes adjustments, he switches. I mean, there's

587
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: a lot going on with al Joe. It's funky, all right,

588
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: He's the funk master. I think that's a solid bet

589
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: to stay with the champion here as he continues this

590
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: run and they say, you know, ninety nine percent he's

591
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: done here, as he said at one thirty five, and

592
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: I think it's I think if he wins, It's it's

593
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: one hundred jack. I want to see him against Volkanowski

594
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: because if if al Joe wins this, you're gonna get

595
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: a lot of people finally putting that stamp on him.

596
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: And if he's there, what benam way goat the resume start,

597
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: you know, really speaks for itself. I'm talking more about

598
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: his pump for pomp placement. At the moment, he's right

599
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: around three four five on most people's lists. He adds,

600
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: O'Malley here to this run of names him in Vulk

601
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: I mean it, you know. Would it be a commercial

602
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: super fight maybe not, but in line with what we

603
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: saw about Volkanowski moving up and fighting machev in putting

604
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: on that classic and showing it. Dude, I'd like to see.

605
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: I'd like to see al Jo if he wins this

606
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: and he enters a new division with all that fan

607
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: fair momentum, I'd like to see him fast forward right

608
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: to a title shot.

609
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 2: How about yourself, Oh, I'm open to it. I do

610
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 2: think that Elia Taporia deserves the title shot. I think

611
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,719
Speaker 2: he's got a lot of intrigue behind him. But if

612
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 2: they can get that fight book soon, al Jo's probably

613
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 2: gonna need some time to adjust to featherweight timelines, need

614
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 2: to match up. I really want to see Ilia Taporia

615
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 2: fight for the title. I think he's a very interesting

616
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 2: challenge for Vulc. I think the build is going to

617
00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: be a lot more interesting than some of the other

618
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 2: featherweight challengers we've seen. I don't want to skip that fight.

619
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 2: I think we need to make that fight happen. It's

620
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 2: the right time. After that, there aren't really any clear

621
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 2: contenders in the featherweight division other than Max Holloway, who

622
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 2: is basically permanently gridlocked. So long as Vulks the champ,

623
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 2: So yeah, book Taporia versus Volk, slide al Joe in there.

624
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: I'd love to see it on the flip side. In

625
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: terms of your both your preference and where you think

626
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: the UFC will lean. You've had O'Malley this week saying,

627
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: when I win the title, and hopefully Cheetoh wins against

628
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: Pedro Munials, let's run that back. It's the only loss

629
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: in O'Malley's UFC career, and you know, you could understand

630
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: if the UFC went in that direction. What I love

631
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,719
Speaker 1: about Cheetoh is he's always he's always all business when

632
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: they asked him about that at the press conference, he

633
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: was just like, f O'Malley, that was his answer, which

634
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: is great. But in that regard the ninety nine percent,

635
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: if if the Sugar Show knocks him out, I'd love

636
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: to see Morob next. Do you think, though, there is

637
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: a world in which we get an al Joe O'Malley

638
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: rematch if the if the takeover is real.

639
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: Here al Jo operates with the chip on his shoulder

640
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 2: and the fact that he said both him and Ray

641
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 2: Longo have stated that Aljo is almost certainly moving up

642
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 2: to featherweight if he says nine he said, ninety nine

643
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 2: percent chance I move up, especially if I beat O'Malley.

644
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: So I can definitely see a world where a guy

645
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: like al Jo just can't stomach losing to a cocky,

646
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 2: brash guy like Sean O'Malley and may want that rematch

647
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 2: if he wins. I am absolutely certain at this point

648
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 2: that he's moving up. I do think it's possible we

649
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 2: see the rematch if O'Malley beats Aljo, but I don't know.

650
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 2: I guess that's a conversation that al Jo and Morab

651
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,959
Speaker 2: Devalashphilia have to have too, because You've never seen a

652
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 2: champ willingly vacate his title so that his friend could

653
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 2: fight for it, right, Like people will make the Daniel

654
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 2: Cormier Kitan Dlasquez comparison, but d C was the contender

655
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 2: and DC moved down. Yeah, there was no way Kane

656
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: Velasquez was gonna make light heavyweight like. This is a

657
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 2: very unique circumstance where the world champ. I know his

658
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: weight and his age has something to do with it,

659
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 2: but we've never seen I don't think a champion will

660
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 2: legally give up the belt so his friend could fight

661
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: for it. Ray Longo described it as a unique act

662
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: of selflessness in the sport.

663
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: So well, to be fair, we did see the Patricio

664
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: Pitbull vacate his lightweight tough for his brother to fight

665
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: for it. Family, Will you get that Patricio wanted to

666
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: move down to thirty five to become a three division

667
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: champion and came up empty. But your point is well

668
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: taken there. I will be interesting to see either way

669
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: what the next bantam whit title fight is. Regardless of

670
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: who wins this fight, let's go down to that comin event.

671
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,959
Speaker 1: It's been under the radar all week here, but there

672
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: is expectations and hope here for action and an interesting

673
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: playout when Jean Way Lee takes the first defensive her

674
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: second reign as the women's one hundred and fifteen pound champion,

675
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: thirty six year old Brazilian slugger Amanda Limos is coming

676
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: in as a plus two point fifty underdog according to

677
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: Caesar's minus three twenty for way Lee, and Waylee was

678
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: just great this whole week in terms of mixing in

679
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: her her English that she's working on, being funny on

680
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: the on the countdown clips all of that, and betted.

681
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: It was really great to see her continue to evolve

682
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: her personality in terms of becoming a fan favorite in

683
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: that regard an excellent fighter. Is this too much for

684
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: limotion in your eyes? The odds are telling us yes,

685
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: how dangerous is her puncher's chance for you? In terms

686
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: of putting your money down on this plus money upset.

687
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 2: There is no way I would bet on Lemosh's winning this. Now.

688
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 2: Maybe a dollar for a fun little return, but that's

689
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 2: exactly how I see it. Short of an upset, upset stoppage,

690
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 2: I don't see Lamos beating Jean Wi Lee. She hasn't

691
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 2: proven that she can win at the highest level of

692
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 2: women's strawweight. You know, losing to Jessica Andrage a year

693
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 2: ago is nothing shameful, But considering the zero to three

694
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 2: stretch that we've seen Jessica Andrage this year, it's clear

695
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 2: to me that she's a step behind the world champion level.

696
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 2: And I think Jong Wayey is an absolute juggernaut. She

697
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 2: is more dangerous now than ever now that she's rounded

698
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 2: out her game or wrestling has improved. The power has

699
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 2: always been there ground upon looks. Yeah, like Jong Wayey

700
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 2: statistically lands more, absorbs fewer strikes, and lands at a

701
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 2: higher take down percentage than her challenger. She's got the

702
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 2: more elite experience in the sport Lamosh winning is truly

703
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 2: an upset. I don't see how she gets it done.

704
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you on that. I'll give her

705
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: the respect for being here in the power, but she's

706
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: never gone five rounds or been at this level. She's

707
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: only ringing fifth in this division. But things did conspire

708
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: to open the door for her to get that shot.

709
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be easy, as we talked about on Wednesday,

710
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: to just do Wayley versus Jan Shannon in China tomorrow

711
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: but if Whaley wins this and survives in advance, that

712
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: could be something in the future. We've got Tatiana Suarez

713
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: knocking on the door, Mackenzie durned still around. The division

714
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: isn't what it once was, Jack, but it's still pretty

715
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: damn good on top. Let's see if this fight can

716
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: give us some entertainment. But I like John Way Lee

717
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: and I like her big in this regard Ian, Yeah, Strawways,

718
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: I mean they deliver. They deliver at the end of

719
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: the day. Okay, you can follow whoever you want on Instagram.

720
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: You shouldn't be judged.

721
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,479
Speaker 2: For it, all right, Shack, no comment PC.

722
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Ian matchattlegary. Is he the

723
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: next big thing at welterweight? The odds makers are telling

724
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: you this is a matchup in which he's going to

725
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: clean house minus four ninety favorite against the always stingy,

726
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: always difficult plus three seventy Neil Magne. Now Magne is

727
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: taking the fight on seven days notice after Jeff Neil's

728
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 1: undisclosed medical dropout. But Shack, the one thing I'll call

729
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 1: back to our conversation about how animated Ian Mtchattle Gary

730
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: was at Thursday's press conference, he might be smarter than

731
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: we think, which is something you alluded to, because what

732
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: does Neil Magne do? Great man? He's technical, he's long's

733
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: he's very stubborn. It's hard to look great against him.

734
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 1: If Ian Matchattle Gary can get Magni mad and angry

735
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,439
Speaker 1: and fired up and want to come at him, that's

736
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: going to open up big time viral striking moment opportunities. Here.

737
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: Are you believing in the hype that the odds makers

738
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: are telling you here nearly a five to one betting favorite.

739
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 2: I think those odds are a little wide. I don't

740
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 2: think you're gonna get Neil Magni out of his element.

741
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 2: He is the most experienced welterweight in UFC history. He

742
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 2: is a decision machine for better or worse. I can't

743
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 2: imagine a little pre fight trash talk is going to

744
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: have someone with the experience of Neil Magni thinking, you know,

745
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 2: I'm a killer with these hands and feet. What Neil

746
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 2: actually has sort of in his advantage in this fight

747
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 2: is that Ian Gary hasn't shown phenomenal wrestling or takedown defense.

748
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 2: Magni is pretty solid there and on short notice. You know,

749
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 2: you got to remember Ian Gary was preparing for like

750
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 2: a striking dream match against Jeff Neil. I can't imagine

751
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: in a couple of weeks he will shore the takedown defense.

752
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,919
Speaker 2: I know it's something that these guys are training year

753
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 2: in and year out, but I don't think there was

754
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 2: enough time that he could dedicate to game planning perfectly

755
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 2: and getting in the reps for a guy like Neil Magni.

756
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 2: So I wouldn't be surprised if Magne can kind of

757
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: neutralize this. But the reason that Ian Gary is a

758
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 2: favorite and he should be. He's had the full camp,

759
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 2: and if you look at their recent fights against Daniel Rodriguez, right,

760
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 2: it's a shared opponent. Ian Gary did to d Rod

761
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 2: in three minutes what it took Neil Magni thirteen thirty

762
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: to do, and Neil Magni and d Rod were one

763
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 2: and one going through the third round. Like Magni is

764
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 2: very much the ultimate gatekeeper. He's still hovering around that

765
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: top ten guy, but he got a split decision win

766
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: over Max Griffin, recently split decision win against Philip Row.

767
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 2: I do think he's losing a step. I don't think

768
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 2: he's quite the before. You could put him as like

769
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 2: a top five to top ten gatekeeper. Now I kind

770
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 2: of see him more in that top ten to ten

771
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 2: to fifteen, top fifteen range. So Gary is vicious. He

772
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 2: lands nearly twice as much as Magnie does. I think

773
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 2: Ian Gary should be the favorite. I feel like the

774
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 2: Margins are a tad bit disrespectful though.

775
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you on that. I'm a little surprised

776
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: by that, but then again, I didn't expect Gary to

777
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: blow through d Rod in that fashion with the headkick.

778
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: Here's what I want to see and now, look, if childle

779
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: Gary delivers another viral moment, his star is just going

780
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: to continue to rise massively. And this is a very

781
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 1: educated setup, as I talked about this week in terms

782
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 1: of the always Irish heavy crowd in Boston for Gary

783
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: to have a big moment, But a matchup like this

784
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 1: is supposed to teach us how well rounded and how

785
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 1: some of those other intangible elements from stamina to take

786
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: down to like everything. I want to see. Gary have

787
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: to show us the full package here. So if this

788
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: ends up going the distance, which is more likely in

789
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: a Neil Magni fight, I want to see just how

790
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: good Gary is. So I think we could learn a

791
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: lot more than that, more from that type of fight

792
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: than we could from another spectacular one. But yeah, you

793
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: got to put your money behind the Irishman here. He

794
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,720
Speaker 1: seems to be coming on. I mean, Magne can trap

795
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: can be a trap fight. But I kind of agree

796
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: with you where he was at the breakout of the pandemic.

797
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: I don't think he's that same guy anymore exactly in

798
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: that regard. So Vegas usually knows a lot more than

799
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: we do, Shack, So I'm gonna ride there. I don't

800
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: know what the odds are in Demon Black Sheear pulling

801
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: off a second straight twister submission, but you know I'd

802
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: put a dollar down on that. But here's the deal.

803
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: He's gonna tie the modern day UFC turnaround record for

804
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: seven days to come back after scoring just the third

805
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 1: twister in UFC history. He's going up against Mario Bautista,

806
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: who was originally going to take on Cody Garbrandt, and

807
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 1: the odds makers at the moment have minus two to

808
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: twenty Bautista plus one eighty Black Sheer, Black Sheer, you know,

809
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: this is house money. This is a cowboy Seroni Kevin

810
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: Holland type move. You know, Chris Leevin just roll the dice,

811
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 1: go out there. I applaud him in terms of the

812
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: urgency to try to get his name known. Are we

813
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: asking too much of him though, against a fighter like Bautista?

814
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 2: I do think we are. And this is the sort

815
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 2: of turnaround that the uf he is gonna look on favorably,

816
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 2: like short of just an absolute stinker, they remember when

817
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 2: guys step up like this, and oh yeah, even in defeat,

818
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 2: you know what, this might sort of elevate him in

819
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 2: the eyes of the promotion. Right, So it's a calculated risk,

820
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 2: and I understand why I took it. That being said,

821
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 2: you know, Bautista has four straight wins. He beat guys

822
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 2: like Brian Kelleher. His only two losses in the UFC

823
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 2: are to Corey Sanhagen, which is obviously no shameful defeat,

824
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,439
Speaker 2: and Trevin Jones, who hits pretty damn hard. So this

825
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 2: is going to be a really tough one for demon

826
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,439
Speaker 2: to prepare for in just seven days. I don't think

827
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 2: he's ready for quite this level of competition just three

828
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 2: fights into the UFC. But we'll see what happens. Right,

829
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 2: Bautista tends to land more and get hit less than

830
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 2: Black shar does. I will never shun a fighter for

831
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 2: being a cowboy and sling him like this, so props

832
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 2: to him. I think it'll ultimately benefit him in the

833
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 2: UFC's eyes. He's on the pay per view main card.

834
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 2: I totally get it. I don't think it's going to

835
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:02,919
Speaker 2: go his way.

836
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: You think he slings pipe with the regularity of cowboy

837
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: Olivera or did this show just take a turn?

838
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 3: Oh?

839
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 2: No, one sling wrong. That will uses more contraceptives than

840
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 2: cowboy Olvera.

841
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: Does Bautista a trading partner of Sugar Shad o'balley. We'll

842
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: see if you can have a big moment. I liked

843
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: that they were both added to that press conference on

844
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: Thursday to kind of get a little you know, welcome

845
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: to the crowd right there. How about Cheeto Vera, we

846
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: know he's in need of doing something different here after

847
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: a humbling loss. It was a split decision, but it

848
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: was dominant against Cory Sanhagen. We're bringing in the always

849
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 1: difficult Pedro Munio's minus two hundred, Vera the favorite plus

850
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: one seventy Munhos Aaron Bronstead or nine. On Wednesday, Shack

851
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: did talk about how close those odds seem to be

852
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: whether Vegas is nervous here that Cheeto could be I

853
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: don't know, going in the wrong direction. The thing is

854
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: Pedro Muno's isn't Corey Sanagan completely different type of fighter?

855
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: When you add in the potential really of a title shot.

856
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: If O'Malley wins, I could definitely see the UFC doing that.

857
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: We know how big this is. Ra Cheeto. Does he

858
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:06,959
Speaker 1: get it done though, Shack?

859
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 2: I think so. I actually love this matchmaking because Marlon

860
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 2: Cheedo and Marlon Chiitto Vera and Pedro Munos are kind

861
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 2: of like mirror images of each other. Cheeto obviously sort

862
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 2: of the younger, newer spin on Munio's. They both have

863
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 2: a lot of knockouts on the record, a lot of

864
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 2: submissions like they're very dynamic offensive threats. Neither has ever

865
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 2: been stopped inside the distance. This is gonna be an

866
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:39,720
Speaker 2: absolute dogfight. I love the matchup. I do think Munos

867
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 2: is probably a little bit on his way out, but

868
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 2: he fended off Chris Gutierrez, who I had really really

869
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 2: high expectations of, particularly coming off of that Frankie Edgar

870
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,919
Speaker 2: knockout that sent Frankie into retirement. But Marlon Chiedo Vera

871
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 2: is the legend killer right. He had that vicious ko

872
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 2: of Frankie Edgar, vicious ko of Domina Cruz. I think

873
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: he could stop Pedro. More likely he gets the decision nod.

874
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 2: Pedro's too fast of a starter. I think for Cheeto

875
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 2: to lose too many rounds, I think he's going to

876
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 2: be pulled into that fight before he can make all

877
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 2: the reads he'd like to make. This is gonna be

878
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 2: so much fun. And don't forget, I don't think Pedro

879
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 2: is getting a title shot off of this, but there

880
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 2: is history there. He fought Sean O'Malley at International Fight Week.

881
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,919
Speaker 2: Pedro was actually looking pretty good. It was the first

882
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 2: time I was like, ah, man, maybe maybe Sean isn't

883
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 2: quite up to where I think he is. And he

884
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 2: changed that with the pyotor Yon fight, but an Ipoke

885
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 2: ended that one no contest, So they both have history

886
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 2: with Sugar Sean.

887
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Munos, as you said, has kind of quietly

888
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: turned things around. He's thirty six years old. There seems

889
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: to be a, you know, a ceiling above him in

890
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 1: terms of how far we expect him to be able

891
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: to go in this division. But before that O'Malley fight.

892
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: He had lost four or five granted against the super

893
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 1: elites you know aldough Al, Joe, Franky Edgar, and Dominic Cruz.

894
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: But he could be a problem. But I gotta see Cheeto,

895
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: even if he plays it safer than normal. You gotta

896
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: survive in advance here. You can't look boring. You gotta

897
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: survive the vance though, when you consider he knows the

898
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: talk after that Sanhagan fight, I expect Chito to bounce

899
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: back in a big way here. It should be a

900
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: very interesting fight. I also want to bring up the

901
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: Wideman factor here. It's a great story. It is a

902
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: tough ask in so many ways. Brad Tavares, we seem

903
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: to know how dangerous he can be minus two seventy

904
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: favorite plus two twenty four Wideman. It would be a

905
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: great story here, Shack. How realistic is here that that

906
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: Wideman can do this?

907
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 2: Though?

908
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: When you look at the x's and o's and how

909
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: he matches up against Tavares.

910
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 2: So I actually really like this matchmaking for Chris Widman.

911
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 2: That's not to say that he's gonna beat Brad Tavars.

912
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 2: It is a tough ass. Brad is adorable, sly guy,

913
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 2: he doesn't get stopped a time.

914
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: What I like her for adorable Shack. I just wanted

915
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: to interrupt you. I want to see which way you

916
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:52,439
Speaker 1: were leaning here.

917
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 2: He's a good looking guy not I guess it could

918
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 2: be both whatever. I cannot wait for the comments on.

919
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 2: By the way, Brian Camp shout out to the live chat.

920
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 2: What I like about this fight for Chris is that

921
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 2: he's been stopped. While right he was fighting guys like

922
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 2: Jacques a So's a gay guard with saucy Joel Romero,

923
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 2: he moved up to fight Dominic Rayasms, which is a

924
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: total disaster. Brad Tavares has only stopped two opponents in

925
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 2: twenty two fights. Right, So there's a good chance that

926
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 2: Chris Widman goes the distance here, which for me is

927
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 2: all that I need to sort of breathe a sigh

928
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 2: of relief. If he can make it these full fifteen

929
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 2: minutes looking decent, I'm happy. Listen. He says he's gonna

930
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 2: be the world champion again. If that's true, he's got

931
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 2: to beat some decent guys. I think Brad Tavares is

932
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 2: in that top fifteen to top twenty range. He's a

933
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 2: hard guy to beat. But the risk assessment isn't that

934
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 2: high for something horrible to happen to wide men? So listen,

935
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 2: if he wants to be a world champ, what are

936
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 2: you gonna do? Put him up against a nobody name

937
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,399
Speaker 2: that people don't recognize, Like, I mean, I actually really

938
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 2: like this fight.

939
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: You know, I don't. I don't ever want to tell

940
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 1: anyone they can't reinvent. I don't want to tell anyone

941
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: what's not possible, because it's self belief that makes incredible

942
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: moments happen. But I just can't. I mean, I know

943
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: that that streak of losing six of eight were to

944
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: very good opponents, but there's some violent exits in that streak.

945
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: We're not We're asking him to have the leg hold

946
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 1: up for fifteen minutes, and I know that to ours

947
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 1: might not be a killer, but you know, I just

948
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: don't see it. If Wiman can win this, it'd be

949
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 1: a great story. I hack him going the distance in fighting, well,

950
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 1: even in defeat, is a great story. The only really

951
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: fight I really want to see the fan in me

952
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: check or Widman is the Luke rock Hold rematch. It's

953
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: a good washed fight between big games. Can you'd be

954
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 1: down for.

955
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 2: That, right, I'd be down for that. And man, this

956
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 2: is gonna be a hard one for me to watch,

957
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 2: you know. Obviously I try and sort of we're all

958
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: fans of the sport and so we're gonna have sort

959
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 2: of leans towards some people. And I actually told Chris

960
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 2: this when we spoke. But unfortunately, the first fight I

961
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 2: ever introduced to my now wife was Wiman versus Silva.

962
00:46:59,320 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: Two.

963
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 2: Never wanted to see another fight after that. The first

964
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 2: fight though, that turned me from like from a semi

965
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 2: casual viewer to just an absolute I'm obsessed with this sport.

966
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 2: Is when Chris knocked out Anderson Silva to win that

967
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 2: world title. I mean, my dad had to come check

968
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 2: up on me because I was screaming at the top

969
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 2: of my lungs. So I've definitely got a soft spot

970
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: for Chris. I am kind of going to be watching

971
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 2: this one through my fingers. Man, I'll be happy if

972
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 2: he makes it fifteen minutes, and I believe that he

973
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 2: probably can.

974
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm cheering for him. I would not bet on

975
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: him in this case though. That's your UFC picks. I

976
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: told you to tell your Silva's coming on there, Shaq.

977
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 1: Some decent other fights on the card.

978
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 2: There, following her on Instagram.

979
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: Basically, I don't have to comment on that. It's not,

980
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: at least not publicly. Let's go to topic number three here.

981
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: I thought we were done Shack with Francis and Gano

982
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: versus Dana and the UFC, but this even did this

983
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: flew below my radar. So last Saturday's UFC Fight Night

984
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: card at the Apex, we saw middleweight to Fan and

985
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: Chuck wi If Chuck and Chuck, way, how do you

986
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: pronounce that? Shack? Could you help me on here?

987
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 2: I ain't John Adak and I at Luke Thomas, though

988
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 2: I do think I can probably give you a better

989
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 2: Israel at DYSGN pronunciation Dan Ltd.

990
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: Of Sonia is not the right way to go anyway,

991
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: to Fawn and Chuck, we sorry if I brutalized that

992
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: walked out. Let's show the picture.

993
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 2: Uh it should be in Chuquie, I think yeah.

994
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: The bio on the lower third cry on there saying

995
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: in Chuqui is what long island? Luke and Shak are

996
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: saying apologies. The only Camerooneyan fighter in UFC history. Now, look, Shack,

997
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna call a major war here if this

998
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: was some low level PA who's you know, trying his

999
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: best and he screwed up. But you gotta understand what

1000
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:53,280
Speaker 1: this might say in this climate. And Francis and Gandu,

1001
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: who former UFC champion fighting out of his you know,

1002
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 1: Cameroon where he was born and raised, took umbrage of

1003
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: it and ended up writing on Twitter quote Thierry Sokaju

1004
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: was the first Cameroonian in the UFC. I was second.

1005
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:11,240
Speaker 1: Don't let them lie in a race history end quote, Shack.

1006
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 1: UFC in the zoo for era has had a history

1007
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: of diminishing people or storylines that either came before them.

1008
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: The seg era selectively gets talked about people like Randy Coutour,

1009
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: who fought for his own you know ip use of

1010
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: his name in one but ultimately got blackballed by the league.

1011
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: We've seen this happen before. This didn't feel right, Shack.

1012
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 1: Is this simply a PA just got canned for making

1013
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: a mistake or is this a continued poke in the

1014
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: eye of Like, I mean, what did he do wrong, Shack?

1015
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,240
Speaker 1: He fought on his contract and tested the free agent market.

1016
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:51,240
Speaker 1: Like we're actually like, come on, this feels like dirty Dana,

1017
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: tell me what do you feel on this. I'm unsettled

1018
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: by knowing this fact.

1019
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 2: Do you can you promise me that if I answer

1020
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 2: this question, I can do a quick celebration of Sosoko

1021
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 2: Jew because I fucking love that guy.

1022
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: Oh, I love that guy.

1023
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, okay cool. I honestly don't know what

1024
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 2: to think, but I'm inclined to believe it was a

1025
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:16,280
Speaker 2: producer error, Like I don't know why the UFC would

1026
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 2: unintentionally spike Soko Jew. I guess if you acknowledge him

1027
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:24,760
Speaker 2: then and not acknowledgeing Ghanu, then it's becoming particularly clear

1028
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 2: that this is a dig of the former UFC heavyweight champion.

1029
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 2: But I just feel like this whole situation has brought

1030
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 2: more attention to the to Nghanu, and I doubt that's

1031
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 2: what the UFC would like. Right If they said third

1032
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 2: Cameroonian in the UFC in the description of his walkout,

1033
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 2: no one would have bat it Ani. I don't think

1034
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 2: anyone would have even thought about Francis and Gan, who

1035
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 2: are Oh, look, guys, I guess they're on good terms.

1036
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:52,280
Speaker 2: This brought way more attention to him than I expect

1037
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 2: that the UFC would have liked. I'm gonna brush it

1038
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 2: up to a mistake. I just don't see what the

1039
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 2: benefit would be in doing something like this.

1040
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: All right, Motierry, so Couldjew. By the way, still not

1041
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: forty years old. I feel like I'd watched that guy

1042
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 1: fight twenty five years ago. Still not forty years old.

1043
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: How's that possible?

1044
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, let me just let me put on the

1045
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 2: LT glasses. Do one of these for you real quick.

1046
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 2: For those who miss soakad you, including me, I had

1047
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 2: to go back and watch thirteen KO wins thirteen KO losses.

1048
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 2: This dude scraps. His first five fights included Glover to Shara,

1049
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 2: Lil nog Riccardo Or and Arona. He stopped the ladder

1050
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 2: two via Ko, and all three ended in less than

1051
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 2: two minutes. He's fought Leona, Machina, Gayguard, musauci Yanglohovich twice, Linda.

1052
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 1: He stopped him, likedre Yeah.

1053
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 2: Andy knocked out, Bob's out. Just just go watch some

1054
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,720
Speaker 2: Soka Jew highlights. That's the end of my ram, thank.

1055
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: You very much. The hardcore is no old school there,

1056
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: but yeah, come on, I don't know, I mean, like, yeah,

1057
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: I know that the UFC is going to do anything

1058
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: to counter program or or ignore what.

1059
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 2: Okay, so franc Or I get stuck on this. I'm

1060
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 2: sorry to interrupt you. Is Dana White will put down

1061
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 2: other fighters and other promotions when they're brought up as

1062
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 2: a tool to sort of diminish them. I just don't

1063
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 2: think we would have been talking about Francis and Ganu

1064
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 2: right now if they hadn't done that. So I just

1065
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 2: don't understand why this would have been a tool to

1066
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 2: take a job like you know what I mean, I'm

1067
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 2: with you.

1068
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: I'm with you in that regard, right, I mean, I

1069
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 1: got passionate, I'm fueled by passion. I appreciate we need

1070
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: more of that in the show. Topic number four, Shack,

1071
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: regardless of whether that PA got fired or not, is

1072
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: gonna go down. PFL playoffs this evening the theater at

1073
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: Madison Square Garden Heavyweights and women's featherweights. Check. Let's be

1074
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: real here, all right, two years ago, the PFL won

1075
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: me over. Okay, turns out that Cage is pretty damn

1076
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: intelligent after all. Right, last year I thought it was

1077
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: kind of hit or miss, But I feel like this

1078
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: year's been a disaster for the PFL. It's been more

1079
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: about building toward next year, the signings of Jake, Paul

1080
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: Francis and Gannuhim and to Serrano, bringing back Clarissa Shields,

1081
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: putting them all in this pay per view division, but

1082
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: this year not putting Kayla Harrison back in the bracket.

1083
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: Having countless drug fallouts of name fighters or or you

1084
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: know that killed their depth and the tournament has really

1085
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 1: taken away from the musty elements of it. And then

1086
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: they had a way in debacle yesterday. So here's the deal.

1087
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: Defending champion Larisa Pacheco, who, after losing multiple times to

1088
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: Kayla Harrison, upset her last year in the in the

1089
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: tournament final, coming in here against Olena Kolesnik. Now, Pacheco

1090
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: has a history against Kolesnik, twice knocking her out in

1091
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: the first round, but Kolesnik has a history of mix

1092
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: missing weight, including one weight class higher against Pacheco in

1093
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: their rematch when she missed at one fifty five. This

1094
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,959
Speaker 1: fight is part of the women's featherweight tournament. Won forty five.

1095
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 1: Now that Kayla's out of the mix and Kolesnik missed

1096
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: weight by one point eight pounds forfeiting twenty percent of

1097
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: her purse and losing a point under PFL rules in

1098
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: the act actual fight, which takes place tonight. Also, in

1099
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: a heavyweight bout that wasn't part of the tournament but

1100
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 1: was on the undercard, Daikwan Barkley missed weight get ready

1101
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 1: for this Shack by six point four pounds for his

1102
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 1: heavyweight till I want to be into this. You know,

1103
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: hen And Ferreira, the Brazilian heavyweight is in the main event.

1104
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: He's six foot seventy's fun as balls and he's taken

1105
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 1: on the crochet king himself, Maurice Green. But I just

1106
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: can't care on that level I used to. I mean,

1107
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: does it come down to the smart cage? Should the

1108
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: cage have been smarter? Should they have seen this coming?

1109
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: Should they have had something? I mean, I know they

1110
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:41,439
Speaker 1: subbed in. They did. They had that controversial sub in

1111
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 1: in terms of what's the UFC fighter's name that they

1112
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: picked up.

1113
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 2: Phil, Thank you very much.

1114
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: That was an intelligent but sketchy move. I guess it

1115
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 1: is what it is this playoff card tonight? Am I

1116
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 1: being too harsh?

1117
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 2: Shack Brian. I know that you love skits and bits,

1118
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 2: and I just feel like the PFL is a running

1119
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 2: joke right now, and it bums me up, man, it

1120
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:04,919
Speaker 2: really bums me out.

1121
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: That's pretty aggressive.

1122
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 2: It runs me out. I want to see someone compete

1123
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 2: with the UFC. I think it's good for all parties involved.

1124
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 2: I think the fighters, whether they admit it or not,

1125
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 2: are desperate to have some sort of leverage or option

1126
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,760
Speaker 2: or any power when it comes to controlling their careers.

1127
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 2: And there was so much interest at the beginning of

1128
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 2: the year when Francis left the UFC, who's he going

1129
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 2: to sign with? And the news comes out that he's

1130
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 2: with PFL Jake Paul for you know, take it or

1131
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 2: leave it, You're mile age Vay Mary. But him being

1132
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:40,280
Speaker 2: involved with the PFL does bring eyeballs onto that division.

1133
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:46,280
Speaker 2: But there's the failed drug tests misweit. I honestly think, frankly,

1134
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 2: I think the Natan schult Houshman FIO suspensions are frankly disgusting.

1135
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 2: I mean, you had the option to not book two

1136
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 2: dear friends against each other, and then you're upset that

1137
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:59,359
Speaker 2: the fight was really, really boring. I don't think they

1138
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 2: should have been suspended or been stripped from the playoffs.

1139
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 2: There's some really poor decision making happening here. I know

1140
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 2: some of these things are out of their control, but

1141
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 2: it's just a bummer, man. I want to see PFL succeed,

1142
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 2: and by some combination of luck and poor decision making,

1143
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 2: we started the year off so strong and now we're here,

1144
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 2: and it hurts, man, because it just reinforces this narrative

1145
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 2: that UFC is the only show worth watching the town,

1146
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 2: and I don't think that's true. I think Blatore has

1147
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 2: something to offer. I think PFL has something to offer.

1148
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 2: I think one championship has something to offer, and I

1149
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 2: just want to see these other promotions succeed. Now.

1150
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 1: I'm with you, and I think one has a fight

1151
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: card this weekend. But I didn't recognize a single name

1152
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: on him. I casual. I don't know check, but I

1153
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,280
Speaker 1: know PFL tried. According to Kayla Harrison in an interview

1154
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 1: with Marc raymundy VESPN from two weeks ago, she had

1155
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: said she was out of this tournament because they were

1156
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 1: going to make the fighting or trying to make the

1157
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,919
Speaker 1: super fight against Cyborg. They said Cyborg was just about

1158
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: to sign then, according to them, kind of pulled the

1159
00:56:58,080 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: fast one and went back to Belatour. I don't know

1160
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 1: the specifics and details there, but it does now look

1161
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: like a fail because what could this weekend's card have

1162
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: ben It could have been Kayla in the main event,

1163
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: or you know, Pacheco and the Cole Maine and setting

1164
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: up the idea of them fighting again in the finals,

1165
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 1: which is kind of what we all wanted. That was

1166
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: an interesting story to see Kayla finally lose to somebody

1167
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: she's beaten twice, but you know, a UFC veteran and

1168
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: Pacheco who just keeps getting better. I mean, she is

1169
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: a success story for the promotion, but now all their

1170
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: eggs are in this pay per view or pay per

1171
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,919
Speaker 1: view division brat you know basket next year, and there's

1172
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: gonna have to be some level of gimmick when you're

1173
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: bringing in Jake Paul and you know, to try to

1174
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: pull pull it over on people, and you're bringing in boxers.

1175
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't I don't dislike those moves. They're interesting,

1176
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna get us to care, but they kind of

1177
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: feel like it feels like they're going out with a whimper.

1178
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I'll be proven wrong, maybe these fights will

1179
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: bang and I'll tune in check.

1180
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 2: But and I really hope.

1181
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: So it goes down this evening. There you go, uh, shack,

1182
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 1: we got two fun segments. I mean, I think it's fun, you.

1183
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 2: Know, Brian, I think Luke would be so impressed that

1184
00:57:58,360 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 2: you managed to get through all the news in one Now,

1185
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 2: good job, you know.

1186
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: People, he underrates my ability. You know from the beginning

1187
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 1: check I had said to Luke and the producers, man,

1188
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: maybe I should host the show and set up Luke

1189
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: the MMA analyst Darling of everyone's lives. They want, they

1190
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 1: come here for Luke's takes. Why is he teeing me?

1191
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: Up right? I got white I got white belt, I

1192
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: got well you know what I mean. You know what

1193
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: I mean? Shack, Okay, okay, all right, so, uh you

1194
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: know I make it a point on Fridays to be

1195
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: as efficient as possible here while giving you the art.

1196
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: But speaking of art, we got a couple of fun

1197
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: segments here on the way out. In the fastest and

1198
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: most efficient and spectacular ninety minutes in combat sports, we

1199
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: went playing a little game of getting to know our

1200
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 1: guest hosts, our fillains, our our friends in the in

1201
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: the extended MK family. From Aaron Bronstead Or to Jed

1202
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: Mishu the Second, who debuted this week in absence of Luke. So, Shak,

1203
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna go under the spotlight here, whether you'd like

1204
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: it or not. I've got seven personal questions. I hope

1205
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: you've got answers. This is called getting to know Shack. Yeah,

1206
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 1: all right, let's do it all right, And if the

1207
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: live audience plummets right now, Shaq will know your placement

1208
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 1: in the MK Family pound for pound rankings. But let's

1209
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: go right here. Shack always been a big fan of yours.

1210
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 1: Question number one, let's just talk about it, Shack. You're

1211
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: wearing the cow shirt. You're an EEDM enthusiast, you got

1212
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: the hat on now. But tell me how it's possible

1213
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: to have a drug free edm obsession. I guess I

1214
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: can understand fun aggressive music, and you know, I mean,

1215
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 1: you know, I saw the movie Go in the nineties.

1216
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 1: I lived that life for brief periods. Shack explained to me,

1217
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: this lifestyle that you embraced so openly and lovingly.

1218
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, my drug free obsession with DM. I'll tell

1219
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 2: you how it started, right, So it's probably not actually

1220
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 2: my favorite genre of music. I grew up a big

1221
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 2: hip hop fan I've been exploring others. I just listened

1222
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:10,919
Speaker 2: to my first Rolling Stone and Bruce Springsteen albums front

1223
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 2: to back this past. Wow, I'm getting there. I'm getting

1224
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 2: there BC. But EDM is actually a big reason why

1225
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 2: I started exploring more genres. So the backstory is that

1226
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 2: I had a friend who was really into it. She

1227
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 2: invited a few of us out to a couple of concerts,

1228
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 2: festivals in Vancouver. They're right. We went to one in

1229
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 2: the US and it blew my mind. And I'll tell

1230
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 2: you why. It was bass music. So it's essentially like

1231
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 2: what Luke Thomas would listen to if he was into

1232
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 2: electronic music. It just sounds like a car crash at

1233
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 2: all times. But I like this. No, it's just like, yeah,

1234
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 2: it's it's horrible. It's horrible, and I love it. What

1235
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 2: I took from it was one, I like the theater

1236
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 2: of it. I like the visual spectacle, the laser, the pyro.

1237
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 2: For the most part, it's digestive, like anyone can kind

1238
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 2: of just like move around and dance. And here's the

1239
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 2: thing you mentioned, the drug free part. I don't know

1240
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 2: if people are in a good mood naturally or chemically,

1241
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 2: but you will not meet a nicer crowd of people

1242
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 2: than electronic music fans. Like I've been to hip hop shows,

1243
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 2: and you're lucky if you don't leave those suckers with

1244
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 2: like a stab wound or something. I love, especially working, yeah, man,

1245
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 2: especially working in MMA. I like that you can go

1246
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 2: somewhere everyone's gonna be decent to you. If you sit

1247
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 2: down to your feet here, people are gonna be like, yo,

1248
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 2: are you okay? Do you need water? I just like

1249
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 2: to have a good time with good people around, and

1250
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 2: it is by far the friendliest crowd I've been to.

1251
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 2: It's just you know, mm listen. MMA brings out some

1252
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 2: iffy characters. It's nice to escape and be around some

1253
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 2: like nice, fun, friendly people.

1254
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 1: Music of you know, my uncle Dave, my music shaman,

1255
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 1: has always said there's two kinds of music in this world,

1256
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 1: the stuff I like and the stuff I don't like.

1257
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 1: And it's regardless of genres. Music makes us feel something

1258
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 1: at transcend words. So if that beat and that you know,

1259
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: environment is great, But you know, you said, I don't

1260
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 1: know if these people are just so happy naturally, there's

1261
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 1: a reason why every girl in the crowd's name is Molly. Okay,

1262
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: there's a reason, Chef, all right, thank you, but I

1263
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 1: appreciate your breakdown and you're leaning into the joke question

1264
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 1: number two, Shack, you made your name in this space.

1265
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong with your interview skills, not

1266
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 1: just in the past with sp Nation and the work

1267
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 1: you do with ET Canada Entertainment Tonight and celebrity interviews,

1268
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: and now the great work you do on your Shack,

1269
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 1: MMA and wrestling channels and the crossover here on CBS

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Speaker 1: Sports and MK. So I want to ask you in

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Speaker 1: the sport of MMA, over your time, who is your

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Speaker 1: best Who is the best interview in mixed martial arts?

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Speaker 2: That is a good question. There's good ones for different reasons, right,

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Speaker 2: Like the reason I like interviewing pro wrestlers a lot

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01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 2: more than I like interviewing MMA fighters is because they

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01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 2: kind of understand the transaction. They know how to entertain

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Speaker 2: over the course of this dialogue between us. But there

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Speaker 2: are definitely some fighters who kind of fit the bill.

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Speaker 2: I really like talking to Cory Sandhagan. He always has

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01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 2: really interesting takes. Yeri Prahatschka is another guy who is

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Speaker 2: just such a unique character. Like every time him and

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Speaker 2: I talk, he's telling me about catching lizards in his

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01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 2: backyard as a kid and his favorite samurai movies. I

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01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 2: like these more sort of like eclectic, out there personalities.

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01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 2: Alexa Grosso is very sweet, usually has a lot of

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Speaker 2: stuff to say. Honestly, Tie tow Evos I've only talked

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Speaker 2: to him once, but he's he's a character. I just

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01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 2: want good dialogue. I hate getting these guys during fight

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Speaker 2: week when they're on their weight cuts. It's the worst.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't make anyone look good. Corey's definitely the most

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Speaker 2: thoughtful guy. Yeeri's the most eclectic, and Tie Twivos is

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Speaker 2: probably just the most fun. Also, DJ DJ's actually a

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Speaker 2: pretty decent interview, especially now that he just kind of

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01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 2: doesn't give a shit anymore.

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Speaker 1: He no, you're right, and if you can keep him

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Speaker 1: engaged in topics he's passionate about, you can get some

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Speaker 1: really good stuff from him. And I appreciate the way

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Speaker 1: you approach and execute these. You've got your own style.

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01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 1: You were at borderline giving a Luke Thomas answer there

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Speaker 1: of you know, I asked for one and you gave

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Speaker 1: forty eight.

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Speaker 2: As to not offense that ADHD diagnosed is my guy,

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01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 2: I'm telling you there it.

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Speaker 1: Is, but I appreciate the work you do and uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's fine. I'd always say DC is my favorite MM

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01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 1: interview because what I want at the end of the day, Look,

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01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: I want craziness. Like if you're you're gonna offer me

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01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 1: Derek Lewis, I'm gonna have fun with it, right, I'm

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01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:35,479
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna point and peck and prod

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Speaker 1: at the at the categories. I know he's gonna give

1311
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 1: me ridiculousness. But I love raw humility and honesty and interviews.

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Speaker 1: So it's Daniel Cormier and MMA for me, and Tim

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01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 1: Bradley the Hall of Famer in boxing for me are

1314
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 1: always my favorites of just like you can ask introspective

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01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 1: questions about their own failures and they'll honestly you know,

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01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 1: and it really shows you what makes them special and

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01:04:58,240 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 1: it's in it's in it's their mind in a lot

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Speaker 1: of ways.

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Speaker 2: You know who's getting better, Robert Whittaker if you can

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Speaker 2: kind of like jab at him a bit and roast

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01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 2: him and give him stuff to make fun of. If

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01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 2: he's actually you can't talk to him about MMA, but

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01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 2: you talk to him about things that I don't want

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Speaker 2: to repeat on this channel. He'll give you a good answer.

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Speaker 2: We'll give you answer.

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Speaker 1: Is that who you're going with this? All right? Question

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Speaker 1: number three Shaq, Hey, we've won called you the Prince

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Speaker 1: of Persia on this show that that would be a

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Speaker 1: nod to your Iranian culture. Truthful, it's true. Okay, what's

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Speaker 1: the best what's the coolest part about being Persian.

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Speaker 2: In the Culturekay, this is so I you know growing,

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Speaker 2: I've actually never been to i Ron, kind of kind

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Speaker 2: of hard to get to, kind of hard to be

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Speaker 2: safe going over there these days. Man, my favorite thing

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Speaker 2: and this is actually reflected very much so at our

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Speaker 2: wedding a few weeks ago. The older they get, the

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Speaker 2: harder they party. And I love that about Iranians. We

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Speaker 2: have DJ who is spitting both Iranian music and sort

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01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 2: of like more mainstream stuff. And let me tell you,

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Speaker 2: when the Iranian hits came on, these guys were on

1341
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 2: the dance floor, didn't matter how old, how young. In fact,

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Speaker 2: at one point they separate, the DJ separated the crowd

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Speaker 2: into the Persians and the non Persians, and we all

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Speaker 2: taught them how to dance. And let me tell you,

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Speaker 2: the Persians were just mopping the floor with these white guys.

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Speaker 1: All right, I like that. I like that shout out

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Speaker 1: to the la iron cheek. Right, that's what that's my

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Speaker 1: favorite part.

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Speaker 2: About Persian swinging, the swing of the things and that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, those Persian clubs that nobody else could pick up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's great. All right. Question number four on getting to

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Speaker 1: know Shaq MAJORI a bit better. I've considered you a

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01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 1: little bit of an old soul talking to your shack.

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Speaker 1: You've got some wisdom in there. You understand things. What's

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Speaker 1: the best piece of advice though, that you've ever received

1356
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 1: that still sort of lingers in the back of your

1357
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 1: brain today.

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Speaker 2: I think it's mostly the advice I give myself PC.

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Speaker 2: I'm honestly not sure. But what I can say is,

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01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 2: and this is the thing I've repeated to most other people,

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01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 2: particularly when I'm talking about my line of work, is

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01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 2: you kind of hear through the grapevindes that the generation

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01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 2: that came up in MMA media before me sort of

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01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 2: at the foundation of it, it was a bit of

1365
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 2: a doggy dog climate. But honestly, for whatever like media

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01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 2: beefs exists that I'm privy or not privy to in

1367
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 2: my experiences, everyone that came before me has treated me

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Speaker 2: very very well. Everyone from you and Luke, Aaron Ariel.

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Speaker 2: If I'm negotiating contracts or if I need to bounce

1370
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 2: an idea off of, I can guarantee that you guys

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Speaker 2: will answer when I send a text or I call.

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Speaker 2: And there has been and each and every one of

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01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 2: you have, at one point, sometimes on multiple occasions, have

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Speaker 2: publicly on your own platforms, spoke said kind things about me.

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Speaker 2: So man, in my experiences, you guys have all been

1376
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 2: so helpful. Whatever drama that fans kind of want to

1377
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 2: pick up on between different parties of the guys who

1378
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 2: at the very top of this industry, as far as

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Speaker 2: I can tell, everyone has looked out for me and

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Speaker 2: my fellow colleagues who've made the sort of transition in

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Speaker 2: at this stage. And I really do appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate that, Jack, Thank you very much. Let's keep it

1383
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 1: going here on learning more about Shack. All over here

1384
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:25,640
Speaker 1: from Aaron Bronstetter is how great it is to be

1385
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 1: a Canadian citizen. Yay free healthcare for all politeness rules Wooo.

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01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 1: But I bet Shack it can't be all roses and

1387
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 1: maple leaves. And I'm fresh off of wonderful vacation to

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01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 1: Quebec collecting with my Quebec quah. And also you're born

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01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 1: in Montreal, true or false? Right? So you are? You

1390
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 1: are part of this gang we've got going. Yes serious, sir,

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01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 1: but Jack, there is a downside to everything. What's the

1392
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Speaker 1: worst part? And you live in British Columbia these days?

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Speaker 1: What's the worst part about living in Canada?

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Speaker 2: So geographically it's a huge country. It's going to very

1395
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 2: where you're at in Vancouver, it's raining like eight months

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Speaker 2: of the year, and so by the time you get

1397
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 2: to the summer, you are just it's a struggle to

1398
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 2: get out of bed every morning, and you're like, why

1399
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 2: do I feel awful? Why do I hate my life?

1400
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 2: And you get outside and it's sunny and you're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: that was I just spent the last nine months devoid

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01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 2: of any vitamin D. So the rain is rough where

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01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 2: I'm from. It really does take a toll on you.

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01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 2: And man, it's expensive. They're selling apartments now, renting out

1405
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 2: apartments twelve hundred and fifty bucks a month for like

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01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty square feet. You basically just get

1407
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 2: a room and then you live in the shared amenities

1408
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:40,679
Speaker 2: like the office spaces and the mini gulfing.

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Speaker 1: What is this freshman year dorm room set up?

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01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's rough. It's rough. We rent

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Speaker 2: out a seven hundred square foot apartment for like twenty

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01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:55,959
Speaker 2: one hundred Canadian a month. Cost of living is insane. Socially,

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Speaker 2: I know there's this impression that like, Canadians are the

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01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 2: nice I, in my opinion, would frame it not that

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01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 2: we're the nicest. We're polite, that doesn't necessarily mean we're kind.

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Speaker 2: What I actually really like about going to the US

1417
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 2: is very quickly I know where I stand with people

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01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 2: right There is no there is no sort of impression

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01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 2: that these guys have to tolerate to put on a

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01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 2: good face. I'll open the door for someone and they

1421
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 2: want so much bad an eye for me. I try

1422
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 2: and walk through and they'll shut that thing on my face.

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01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:29,560
Speaker 2: I kind of like that straightforward. And as Canadians sometimes

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01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 2: you know they're not quite as nice as they may lead.

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01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 1: So you're saying Bronstadter may seem like the nicest guy,

1426
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 1: but he's jared from subway and waiting. That's what you're

1427
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 1: saying right now.

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Speaker 2: I don't know quite about that, but you know, I

1429
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,680
Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised if he's got some sneaky moves up

1430
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 2: his sleeve, you know, if you cross them.

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Speaker 1: I'm just kidding, of course. Yeah, Canadians very polite, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: you can't really be all that nice all the time.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe maybe they are, maybe they are

1434
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 1: appreciate your candidness about your fine country. I'm not gonna

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01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 1: lie shack. Okay, I joke a lot, but it's serious

1436
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 1: about my you know, my breakdown. I'm an American, right, Yeah.

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01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 1: I didn't grow up with with too many with too

1438
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 1: many like you know. I grew up in a town,

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01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:09,680
Speaker 1: for example, that had had a huge Portuguese population, so

1440
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,760
Speaker 1: the Portuguese flags everywhere, all everything people did was about

1441
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 1: their culture, and I was jealous of that. But I

1442
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 1: will say, uh, my dad's side of the family is

1443
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 1: all originally from Quebec, and I fell at home. I

1444
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 1: felt like I belonged there. It was weird. I did

1445
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 1: not expect this romanticized feeling, and my wife and kids

1446
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 1: were sick of me talking about it and talking about

1447
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 1: these people as my people. But I felt like they

1448
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 1: got me. Even if there was a language gap. They

1449
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 1: understood me.

1450
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 2: Did you tell them that you were frombe that you've

1451
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 2: got heritage here or lineage here? Oh? I didn't, I did,

1452
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:42,599
Speaker 2: all right? Not surprising stereotype is that the Quebec Quai

1453
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 2: ain't particularly kind.

1454
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 1: They looked through my Lithuanians and they saw it with

1455
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 1: my eyes.

1456
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 2: They did.

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01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 1: They saw that one one of them, all right. Number

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01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 1: six here Shaq. Outside of your health and the close

1459
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 1: closest to you, your loved ones, right, because that'll be

1460
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 1: everybody's answer. What are the three things in your life

1461
01:11:57,800 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 1: right now you're most grateful for?

1462
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 2: Ah This is a classic chrispan Fleet question. Outside of

1463
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 2: friends and family, ah Man, honestly, some alone time. It's

1464
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 2: been a really busy stretch between the wedding and a

1465
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 2: bunch of sort of like group vacations. As outgoing as

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Speaker 2: I am, I'm very introverted. I'm an only child. I

1467
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 2: cannot wait to just go home after work today and

1468
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 2: be completely by myself put in the headphones, which goes

1469
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Speaker 2: to number two. Man, I am grateful for video games.

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01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 2: It's such a good escape. I have a very short

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01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 2: attention span. It keeps me very engaged. It's my best

1472
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 2: therapy for just getting a few hours without thinking about

1473
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 2: work or what I gotta do, without talking to people,

1474
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 2: just just zone in and have some fun for myself.

1475
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 1: And then number three, what's your? Fortnite is my mental

1476
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 1: health escape of choice? What is yours?

1477
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 2: So I'll alternate. I play a lot of Apex Legends,

1478
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 2: which is also a Battle Royale, and in the spirit

1479
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 2: of Fortnite, you know, different mechanics with same kind of game.

1480
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 2: If I have an extended period of time, like I know,

1481
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 2: I'm not going away anywhere. I love a good single

1482
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 2: player RPG, which are Three Knights of the Old Republic

1483
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 2: Mass Effect. These are some of my favorites. I love

1484
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 2: games where like you get to make decisions that kind

1485
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:21,600
Speaker 2: of impacts how the story shapes. I think those are

1486
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,599
Speaker 2: really really interesting kind of games. So right now it's Apex,

1487
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 2: but I gotta find something soon. We got the Isolation,

1488
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:33,639
Speaker 2: we got the video games. Number three, number three, bro, Honestly,

1489
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 2: it's between Disneyland and all the cabin trips. I wouldn't

1490
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 2: describe myself as a pillar of health, but I'm I'd

1491
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 2: be thrilled to eat a damn salad right about that.

1492
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 2: Just just give me some Greens. Please, I am over here.

1493
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 2: Please please ag one sponsor your boys interviews because I

1494
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 2: need them.

1495
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 1: All right, Well, Shack, we are grateful for you. Thank

1496
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 1: you for sharing that and speaking of our gratefulness, our

1497
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 1: final question, I get to know, Shack. You can't Luke

1498
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:03,599
Speaker 1: Thomas me here. You got to give me one answer.

1499
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 1: So we are very thankful for the extended family of

1500
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 1: you know, Chuck Rashad across the board of people that

1501
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 1: jump in, fill in, or be part of our extended

1502
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 1: what we're doing here, especially like you said, the brethren

1503
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 1: in the mm A media that we insistern in the

1504
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 1: MMA media that we that we try to you know,

1505
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:27,640
Speaker 1: build good. This is I love that our fans are

1506
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:30,680
Speaker 1: insanely passionate about who they like, Like if you know,

1507
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 1: brown Setter will slide in, and half the people are like,

1508
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:34,680
Speaker 1: I never want to hear from that guy again, and

1509
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 1: half the people are like, man, that guy's great. I

1510
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 1: hope he's on every time. So, Shaq, in your opinion,

1511
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 1: as an m K watcher but also a contributor excluding yourself,

1512
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 1: who's the pound for pound best replacement host in the

1513
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 1: MK family right now? When it comes to sliding in

1514
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 1: for lucre I on our many vacations that can fill

1515
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 1: in without a beat, but still add something unique and

1516
01:14:57,760 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 1: extra to the show.

1517
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 2: Oh, you can include me in that list, because it's

1518
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 2: definitely not me. I noticed the I noticed them gay

1519
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 2: fans really like Jed, so shout out to Jed for me.

1520
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 2: It is, without a doubt, no question in my mind,

1521
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:17,680
Speaker 2: the iceman Chuck Mindenhall. I grew up a fan of

1522
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 2: the MMA beat. I think he has obviously a very

1523
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:24,639
Speaker 2: natural chemistry between you and Luke, the guy really knows

1524
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 2: what he's talking about. Correct me. You and Chuck, have you,

1525
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 2: guys ever done just the two of you?

1526
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Jevy about about six or seven times.

1527
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm about to. I'm about to. I'm about to

1528
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 2: whip on this trivia segment. PC, there's your preview. But

1529
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 2: I think Chuck's the man.

1530
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 1: Chuck is the bad I definitely enjoy everybody's got. Everybody

1531
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 1: brings uping different to the table. Chuck is just that

1532
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 1: calming influence who rolls off of our ridiculousness very well

1533
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 1: and has great takes as well. And we appreciate you

1534
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:55,640
Speaker 1: joining our family and joining today. That was getting to

1535
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 1: know Shaq, But we have one final segment. So here's

1536
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 1: the deal, Shack. I am sort of painting you as

1537
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 1: not just a contribute to MK, but also kind of

1538
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:05,720
Speaker 1: a super fan. Now you did check that and say, look,

1539
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 1: you know, I've seen a lot of MK but you,

1540
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 1: but you may not be the type of P one

1541
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:12,600
Speaker 1: that will one day murder Luke in a bathtub of

1542
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 1: an abandoned building and take his organs out and sell

1543
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 1: him on the black market. But I wanted to create

1544
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 1: a ten question MK trivia P one challenge. We're using

1545
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 1: you as the guinea pig. But this is for everybody

1546
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 1: at home that loves this show and lives and dies

1547
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,559
Speaker 1: for it to find out where they actually are. Now,

1548
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:32,639
Speaker 1: if you go ten for ten, you're psychotic and you're

1549
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 1: probably gonna end up killing Luke one day. I'd say eight.

1550
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 1: If you can get eight of ten, you're a P one.

1551
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 1: If you can get you know, five to six right,

1552
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 1: you're a casual. If you can get like three right,

1553
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 1: you're a thick boy. And if you only get like

1554
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 1: one or two right, you're an aerial fan. So that's

1555
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:50,600
Speaker 1: the way I'm breaking this tier down of what you

1556
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 1: land in at the end of the day. So for

1557
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 1: the first time ever, this is the MKP one trivia chat.

1558
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch this go.

1559
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 1: Let's find out what Shaq and you at home truly

1560
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 1: know about this show, which debuted two days after International

1561
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 1: Fight Week twenty nineteen in that Jersey City studio. Question

1562
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 1: number one, Shack, before we get going here, what is

1563
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 1: your prediction on how many you will correctly land here?

1564
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 2: Listen? I've watched every episode of MK, but I usually

1565
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 2: have it on like one monitor while I'm working, So

1566
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 2: if I can get half of these right, I'll honestly

1567
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:29,799
Speaker 2: be happy with myself.

1568
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 1: All Right, here we go. Are you a casual? Are

1569
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 1: you a P one? Are you a future murder suspect?

1570
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 1: Question number one, which fighter was the first to break

1571
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 1: MK's resume review curse?

1572
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 2: Oh my god. These are not easy questions.

1573
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 1: They get harder as they go. This was a layup.

1574
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 2: Comes the easy one.

1575
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 1: This is an absolute layup. This is the easiest one

1576
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 1: of the bunch.

1577
01:17:54,360 --> 01:18:00,599
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm inclined to believe it's some So it would

1578
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 2: have to be someone really popular who was sort of

1579
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 2: on their way out.

1580
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:11,720
Speaker 1: It was November twenty twenty one. Shack. Okay, there's your

1581
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 1: little hint.

1582
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 2: That's not gonna help me. Man. I feel like you

1583
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 2: guys must have done a Max Alloway one and he

1584
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 2: lost three times to Volk. I'm sure you guys have

1585
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 2: done a Nate Diaz one.

1586
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 1: So what I mean like break Wait?

1587
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 2: Did you say what do you say? It was November

1588
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one.

1589
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:33,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. When I say break it, I mean they didn't lose.

1590
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:36,640
Speaker 2: Oh they won? Oh yeah? Yeah, Well this makes it

1591
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 2: even harder. It's gonna be you said November twenty twenty one, Yes,

1592
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:46,599
Speaker 2: I did. It won't be John Jones. Then I'm gonna

1593
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:49,679
Speaker 2: take a shot in the dark, is it Francis san Ganu?

1594
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:51,720
Speaker 1: Wow, Shack, you might not get one right here. If

1595
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:54,599
Speaker 1: this is the stretch Rod Canelo Alvarez against Caleb play,

1596
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:57,559
Speaker 1: come on, I'm super middleweight. Literally.

1597
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:00,640
Speaker 2: Our editor does his best to keep me off of

1598
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:03,160
Speaker 2: the boxing coverage at CBS Sports very much.

1599
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 1: So that was the layup. But we'll keep it going.

1600
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:07,680
Speaker 1: If you're playing at home. Off of Shack's answer, this

1601
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:08,519
Speaker 1: is going to take an hour.

1602
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 2: By the way, Question number.

1603
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 1: Two, Shack which on air pseudonym is m K documentarian

1604
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 1: better known as.

1605
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 2: Which on a pseudonym is MK's documentary. Oh my god,

1606
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 2: I am what's his real name?

1607
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 1: I can't say that because it would give away part

1608
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 1: of it. His first name is in the pseudonym his

1609
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:36,920
Speaker 1: real first name. So there you go, Jack Shack. You're Jack?

1610
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen the show before? I mean, what

1611
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 1: are we doing here?

1612
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 2: So specific?

1613
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 1: Man? Do you give up? Oh?

1614
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 2: Documentarian Jake?

1615
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 1: Yeah? What's his pseudonym on air?

1616
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 2: Oh it's not documentarian Jake.

1617
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:58,679
Speaker 1: It's a all right, it's it's it's Jake van Jake

1618
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 1: von Amsterdam is correct?

1619
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 2: Oh my god, these are not easy, dude.

1620
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 1: I'll give you a half point forgetting Jake, but we'll

1621
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 1: keep it going here. Shack number three originally called the

1622
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 1: Bomb Shelter upon its twenty nineteen debut. What nickname was

1623
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:17,679
Speaker 1: given to the updated MK studio beginning with episode thirty?

1624
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 2: Is it the Orchids of Combat?

1625
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 1: Correct? Shack on the board? Yes, all right, I'm gonna

1626
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 1: give you the Jake one. So you got two out

1627
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:25,360
Speaker 1: of three right now.

1628
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 2: Don't give me the Jake one.

1629
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:26,679
Speaker 1: I don't.

1630
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:28,760
Speaker 2: I told I know. Don't make this easy on me.

1631
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:30,639
Speaker 1: All right, let's see where Shack ends up. Question.

1632
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:32,120
Speaker 2: I'll be a thick boy. It's Okay.

1633
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:36,080
Speaker 1: Check The debut episode of High Court in twenty twenty

1634
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 1: two focused on the Hall of Fame legitimacy of whom.

1635
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:42,400
Speaker 2: I actually did not watch this one, but I think

1636
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 2: it's Michael Biston.

1637
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 1: Correct. Okay, you're making a run now, making a run?

1638
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 1: Two out of four for Shack. We go to number five.

1639
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 1: Who are the only two UFC champions to appair on

1640
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 1: MK as analysts? And this does not have to be

1641
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:00,639
Speaker 1: while they were champion? Who are the only two UFC

1642
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 1: champions to appear not as guests but as analysts on

1643
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 1: Morning Comb?

1644
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:09,840
Speaker 2: All right, it's for sure. Rashad Evans is one of them? Correct?

1645
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:14,720
Speaker 2: I hope this is in recency bias, but I have

1646
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:18,679
Speaker 2: a weird recollection. Can you tell me if they're currently

1647
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:19,679
Speaker 2: active or retired?

1648
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 1: They're currently active?

1649
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 2: Is it Aljamaine Sterling?

1650
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 1: Correct? Shack? Yeah, all right, you're back, dude. This is

1651
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 1: three in a row for you. Okay, Shack, So you

1652
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:30,639
Speaker 1: got three of the first five. Let's go to number six.

1653
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:36,719
Speaker 1: Although known more as an MMA vehicle, MK's pregame preview

1654
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 1: has actually previewed three different showtime pay per view boxing fights.

1655
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:43,599
Speaker 2: Oh stop with the boxing cards?

1656
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 1: Name two of them shack, okay, name two of them?

1657
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 1: Do you want me to tell you the guests to

1658
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 1: help you.

1659
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 2: On this one?

1660
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 1: Shock?

1661
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 2: Okay? So I'm guessing two of the three boxing matches

1662
01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 2: featured on pregame preview?

1663
01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 1: Yes, so this this was so?

1664
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 2: These were all with Chuck Minden Hall.

1665
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 1: Incorrect? Do you want the analysts that were there?

1666
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 2: No? No, no, sorry, sorry, but you did a pregame preview?

1667
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 2: Was Chuck present for these?

1668
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:14,559
Speaker 1: Chuck is predominantly the third man on these, but all

1669
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:17,639
Speaker 1: three of these answers did not feature Chuck Minden Hall.

1670
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:19,920
Speaker 2: They were boxing Oh wow, okay, okay.

1671
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:24,720
Speaker 1: One featured Andreas Hale, one featured Aral Hawane, and the

1672
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:28,559
Speaker 1: third had both Shaan Alshaddi and Danny Segura as analysts.

1673
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 2: I guess what I was trying to figure out is

1674
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:33,760
Speaker 2: these weren't where These pregame previews exclusively for boxing cards

1675
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:35,000
Speaker 2: are also UFC cards.

1676
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 1: Pregame preview can be for any big event. We've We've

1677
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 1: predominantly done MMA, We've done boxing.

1678
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, that's enough, that's enough. I'll look on my

1679
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 2: way through this. It wouldn't have been Spence Crawfords that

1680
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 2: just happened. You guys want TV congratulations, probably something like

1681
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 2: Canello Triple G.

1682
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:09,439
Speaker 1: Well, Canelo versus Plant was the showtime one question, But

1683
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 1: I'll give it to you Canelo. Okay, So yeah, I

1684
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:11,840
Speaker 1: don't know.

1685
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:13,639
Speaker 2: Can I just name a boxer?

1686
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 1: The other two? Shack, you got this incorrect? Where Jake

1687
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:20,839
Speaker 1: Paul versus Tyrone Woodley Part two which featured Ariel Hawane

1688
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 1: and Jake Paul versus in Arizona with those other gentlemen.

1689
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 1: Shack back down to earth here three right through six

1690
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 1: for Shack, Let's go to this number seven, which former

1691
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 1: interim champion was the first to wear an MK bomber

1692
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:42,760
Speaker 1: jacket in public. Yes, which came at halftime of a

1693
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:44,759
Speaker 1: Houston Rockets game.

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01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:48,679
Speaker 2: That's it's easy because it's the only piece of clothing

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01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 2: that man wears every interview I've done with them since

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01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 2: you've given it to me, he's wearing that bomber jacket.

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01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:56,320
Speaker 1: That's very fair. Maybe they should have been an easier one.

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01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 1: Let's go to the most one.

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01:23:57,280 --> 01:23:58,559
Speaker 2: I need to start paying that guy more.

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01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:01,760
Speaker 1: Four correct answers for two questions left. Here we go

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01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 1: number eight or sorry, three questions left. Luke Thomas has

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01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 1: appeared in every episode of Room Service Diaries two point

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01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 1: zero on the Couch except which episode.

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01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:17,680
Speaker 2: Oh you did one with Chuck Mindenhall. There, correct, and

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01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:19,599
Speaker 2: I think it was with Demetrius Johnson.

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01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:25,759
Speaker 1: Back with a bang five correct for Shack two questions left.

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01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 1: Here we go, now they get really hard. Shack once

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01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 1: dubbed the first Lady of MK. This Boss Lady is

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01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 1: married to one half of MK's twenty twenty two Donk

1710
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 1: of the Year.

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01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:46,600
Speaker 2: Oh is it? Is it one of the piquettes?

1712
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 1: We need her name?

1713
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:55,559
Speaker 2: And the tensation is just like searching a Google right now? Uh,

1714
01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 2: can you give me the guy's name and maybe it'll

1715
01:24:59,360 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 2: like spawn the end?

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01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:06,160
Speaker 1: D J Jay, I mean they they made the trip

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01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:07,680
Speaker 1: to London to see us.

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01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:13,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't. I don't know. It's not ann. I

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01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:15,559
Speaker 2: feel like it's it's an a, but I don't think

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01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:15,760
Speaker 2: it does.

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01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 1: Oh, your your Canadian brethren here are getting shafted. It

1722
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:21,840
Speaker 1: is the boss Lady Don Piquette of Mount Nike Nova

1723
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 1: Scotia fame. There you go, Shack number ten. Your final question,

1724
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 1: you have five right, which puts you in casual territory.

1725
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 2: I'll take it.

1726
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 1: What is the first name of the MK cameraman whose

1727
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:37,760
Speaker 1: arms are filled with tattoos of rabid animals.

1728
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 2: All right, I've been around the MK crew once in

1729
01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:47,639
Speaker 2: my life. That was International Fight Week last year. If

1730
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:51,920
Speaker 2: I feel like it's either it's a Cory.

1731
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:57,880
Speaker 1: Shaq, what is your final answer? This man has a bear,

1732
01:25:58,120 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 1: a wolf, a bro.

1733
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 2: I don't know because I don't work on the set

1734
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 2: with you, guys.

1735
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 1: He has appeared on screen many times. Shack incorrect.

1736
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 2: Okay, you're telling me it's not Corey.

1737
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 1: It's not Corey. The correct answer was Tristan. So Shack

1738
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 1: you go five of ten? Ohhich places you as a

1739
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:22,040
Speaker 1: casual in the MC sphere. Please share your scores in

1740
01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 1: the comments below. I want to find out who really

1741
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 1: is a p one and who I need to get

1742
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:29,400
Speaker 1: a restraining order out on ahead of time. Thank you

1743
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 1: for playing in Shack, Thank you for joining us today.

1744
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 1: We love your work on we'll seebssports dot com on

1745
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:40,720
Speaker 1: the Shack MMA YouTube channel. What else can we plug here?

1746
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 1: What else you got? Shack?

1747
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? Man? Please shaq fu on Twitter. I sahak underscore fu.

1748
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 2: It's right there. I'm getting a lot of people following

1749
01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:52,639
Speaker 2: me on Instagram. I haven't even like posted my engagement

1750
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:55,200
Speaker 2: photos from like nine months ago, so you're not gonna

1751
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:58,000
Speaker 2: get a ton out of me there, shaq MMA. That's

1752
01:26:58,040 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 2: really the one I'm trying to push for. We got

1753
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:02,719
Speaker 2: great series where we got UFC fighters to re rank

1754
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 2: their divisions. So if you're looking for something that's not

1755
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:09,599
Speaker 2: irrelevant after like four or five days, that's the stuff

1756
01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 2: for you.

1757
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 1: And are you still in the pro wrestling space these days?

1758
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:17,720
Speaker 2: Check. I would be even more if other people were

1759
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:20,800
Speaker 2: as enthusiastic about it as I am. Like I said, man,

1760
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 2: take it or leave it as a sport as a

1761
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:26,080
Speaker 2: form of entertainment. But those guys are so much fun

1762
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 2: to talk to, so I would love to do more.

1763
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:31,559
Speaker 2: There's one with Seth Rowins pretty recently on my channel,

1764
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 2: so you can go to Shack Wrestling for that. But

1765
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:35,719
Speaker 2: don't worry, guys, if you go to shaq MMA, it's.

1766
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:39,519
Speaker 1: Just that no pro wrestling. We'll be followed on there,

1767
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:42,200
Speaker 1: Shack Majority. Thank you for joining us, your boy BC

1768
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 1: will be back Saturday night after UFC two ninety two

1769
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:49,759
Speaker 1: finishes in Boston with an instant reaction on the Morning

1770
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 1: Combat YouTube channel. And also, if you want to continue

1771
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 1: this great scam I got going on Cameo dot com

1772
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 1: slash briancamp Amble. You can come on there. It's all

1773
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 1: good vibes, right you want you want some inspirational shout

1774
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 1: out to happy birthday, life advice, or you want me

1775
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:08,559
Speaker 1: to just roast you. It's all good.

1776
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 2: You've got any weird ones?

1777
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got one. Guy was like, could you take

1778
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 1: off your socks and show your toes and say this

1779
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 1: and that? And then before I could even decline it,

1780
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:22,040
Speaker 1: he rescinded the request. But it's been largely on the

1781
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 1: up and up, and I appreciate that. By the way,

1782
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:26,640
Speaker 1: it's great. It's actually it's cool to get connected with

1783
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 1: the great We got great fan shack. We got great fans,

1784
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 1: you know, great viewers. They're not fans, they're family members. Okay,

1785
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 1: it's a very weird and disruptive.

1786
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 2: It's a weird family and distorted family.

1787
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:39,920
Speaker 1: Here, but I love it just the same. All right,

1788
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:45,000
Speaker 1: Morning Combat dot store for your finest merch Gaff Pierre

1789
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:47,479
Speaker 1: and Long Island Luke on the ones and twoesa today.

1790
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Showtime always the label that pays

1791
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:53,240
Speaker 1: us thirty days free at Showtime dot Com. Shack you've

1792
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:57,760
Speaker 1: been wonderful. Enjoy the fights this weekend, sir, and we

1793
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:00,559
Speaker 1: look forward to having you back in the mix soon.

1794
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like we abuse vacation policies. People

1795
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 1: act like you know, I know you don't want people

1796
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 1: don't want us to take back to back vacations. But

1797
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 1: am I allowed to family getaways a year? Or is

1798
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:12,280
Speaker 1: that excessive? In the year of our lore twenty twenty.

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01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 2: Three, list man MK is a drug. You got people

1800
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:16,919
Speaker 2: hooked and they don't do well when they're withdrawing.

1801
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:19,880
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, you know, stay drug free like

1802
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:23,519
Speaker 1: Shack and dressed up like a cow. Indeed, thank you, Shack.

1803
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:26,200
Speaker 1: Thank you to our fine fans and listeners and people.

1804
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:29,360
Speaker 1: We got your back as always, protect yourself up here.

1805
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 1: Shaq's hat is just fantastically ridiculous. Luke Thomas will be

1806
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 1: back next week, is it, Shack? Did you paint that? No?

1807
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:40,880
Speaker 2: I think my wife colored it in and I just

1808
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:43,040
Speaker 2: brought it to the office because what else am I

1809
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:43,560
Speaker 2: going to do with it?

1810
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1811
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:44,760
Speaker 2: There you go.

1812
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 1: Thank you for playing, Thank you for watching. This has

1813
01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:52,880
Speaker 1: been the best damn combat sports show period. And oh,

1814
01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:55,080
Speaker 1: by the way, on that we are up for the

1815
01:29:55,160 --> 01:30:00,639
Speaker 1: third straight year the World MMA Awards for Best MMA Programming.

1816
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:02,760
Speaker 1: So go to WORLDMMA Awards dot com if you want

1817
01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:05,680
Speaker 1: to vote for US. It's US against Ariel Anik and

1818
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 1: Florian Dana White contenders and UFC embedded. Let your voice

1819
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 1: be heard. Does it help the future of the show, Well,

1820
01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:15,160
Speaker 1: it doesn't hurt it, I'll tell you that much. Luke

1821
01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:18,760
Speaker 1: will be back next week. Enjoy yourselves, but for now,

1822
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 1: tip your waitresses and shock watch out for them hoves. Man, right,

1823
01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:27,919
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I mean it's I mean loyalty.

1824
01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, but yeah, yeah, I don't. That's it, guys.

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01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:33,400
Speaker 1: I'm done, guys. It's it.