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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she

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Speaker 1: Welcome to my show, money Making Conversation Masterclass. I'm your

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Speaker 1: host with Sean McDonald. I recognized that we all have

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Speaker 1: He's one of Hollywood's most exciting rising stars of today.

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Speaker 1: I was so mad with season two ended. We're talking

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Speaker 1: The show follows Madame de Ville de ville Or, starring

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Speaker 1: my man Sky also holds a strong passion for producing.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about that as well as advocate advocating

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Speaker 1: Masterclass Sky, Alvesta Black, How you doing, sir, hey Man,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for having me with with an

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Speaker 1: introduction like, well, you know, I had to drop two

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Speaker 1: you know, we was the way. Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy to have you took the time because you know,

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Speaker 1: you know I learned about your dancing career, you were

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Speaker 1: can we talk about that a little bit before we

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Speaker 1: I am making a huge foray into producing. I just

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I got the above man. I loved

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Speaker 1: the development of being on the ground making this story,

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Speaker 1: and understanding and it creates as an actor, creates a

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Speaker 1: sorry about that. If you can't be if you can't

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Speaker 1: be empathetic to your fellow man and man, being woman, human,

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Speaker 1: be a great artist. And it's near and dear to me.

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Speaker 1: And there's a lot more I want to do in

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Speaker 1: that arena of m I want to go visit shelters.

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Speaker 1: I want to set up things, and it's one of

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Speaker 1: my company's mission statements to to really give back and

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Speaker 1: to really get back and see what can we do

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Speaker 1: that There has to be something that if all of

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Speaker 1: us are together, we could we could make some form

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Speaker 1: of effective change. Absolutely well, he's making effective change as

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Speaker 1: a producer, effective change as a homeless advocate for the

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Speaker 1: impoverished and disenfranchise, but more importantly as a fan as

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Speaker 1: a person in the entertained prison. You know, I always say,

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Speaker 1: step in. And I know he's stepping in strong because

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Speaker 1: he got a great man behind him and Tyler Perry,

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Speaker 1: and he's another advocate in Christian Keys, who I think

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Speaker 1: is one of the star producers of our next generation

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Speaker 1: that's gonna pop out that lonely is he a talented writer,

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Speaker 1: but he's also a handsome guy, so they also helped

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Speaker 1: CHRISTI Okay, it looks good, but again, thank you for

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Speaker 1: covering those show this guy, I hope it was a

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Speaker 1: Joe O put this journey was better than the previous journey,

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Speaker 1: which I thought was very good. I always have a

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Speaker 1: great time with you, and thank you for having me

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Speaker 1: back in and just picked you back on what you said.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for everything that you've done in the entertainment industry.

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Speaker 1: Because you you had to walk so I can run.

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Speaker 1: So thank you for all your contributions and just knocking

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Speaker 1: down those doors. Man. It's always a great time here

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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations. Thank you. Appreciate your brother, but talk soon. Man,

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Speaker 1: be safe now, Okay, thank you too. All right, If

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Speaker 1: you want to see you here any of these interviews,

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Speaker 1: please go to money Making Conversation dot com. I'm with

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Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. I am your host. We'll be right back

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Speaker 1: with more money Making Converse Stations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald.

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Speaker 1: You are now tuned into the Money Making Conversations Minute

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Speaker 1: of Inspiration with Rashan McDonald. Hi, I'm Rashan McDonald for

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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass with your daily minute of Inspiration

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Speaker 1: this week. I said. That was CEO and co founder

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Speaker 1: of Tyler New Media, home of traffic, sales and profit,

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Speaker 1: Lamar Taylor, as he shares the importance of separating the

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Speaker 1: nature of your hustle from the nature of your business.

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Speaker 1: A lot of times when people are being taught and

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Speaker 1: trained through social media, it's more about hustle than it

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Speaker 1: is about business, and it's about, hey, I can make

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Speaker 1: this like quick money, right, How I can you know,

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Speaker 1: do something real fast and flip this and flip that.

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Speaker 1: But we're trying to tell folks you need to build

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Speaker 1: something that's sustainable. You need to build something so that

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Speaker 1: guess what it works when you don't. In order to

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Speaker 1: do that, we need systems around it. We need processes

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Speaker 1: around we need people around it. Those are team and

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Speaker 1: staff that we might need to be able to implement

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Speaker 1: and do things better than we can. And too many

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Speaker 1: times when we don't have these different pieces of the

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Speaker 1: puzzle together, then we get caught. If you were to

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Speaker 1: listen to this full interview with Lamar Taylor, it's a

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Speaker 1: failor on Money Making Conversations dot Com. Now let's return

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Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. My next

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Speaker 1: guest is d G. Larrey. He's a multitalitied actor, writer,

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Speaker 1: and producer. He's the creator and executive producers, showrunner and

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Speaker 1: start on Bounce TVs. Comedy, I should say drama Johnson.

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Speaker 1: He plays the role of Gregg on the show We'll

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Speaker 1: Talk to Da g about his path when you say path,

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Speaker 1: from where he started to where he is today and

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Speaker 1: how he knew as a young age. Always I was

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Speaker 1: always amazing when people know at a young age what

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Speaker 1: they want to be, because I struggled with that. I

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Speaker 1: always tell people I didn't know who I wanted to

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Speaker 1: be until I was in my forties, despite all my success,

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Speaker 1: So I always admire people who get it and then

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Speaker 1: stick with it. What inspired him to know his path

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Speaker 1: at such a young age and for performing on barbwee

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Speaker 1: to his college studies to create his own show? What

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Speaker 1: has been some of the important tools that they helped

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Speaker 1: him and finding success in this entertainment indutry industry. He

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Speaker 1: received the b A and FAM and TV from Cow State,

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles. He appeared on amazone, a series like Age

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Speaker 1: of the Living Dead, BOSH and owned green Leaf one

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Speaker 1: of my favorite shows, Please Work in the Money Making

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Speaker 1: Conversation Masterclass, the Incredible. I'm saying incredible because I've watched

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Speaker 1: fourteen straight episodes of him in the last twenty four hours.

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Speaker 1: De Laray, Hey, I know, the journey didn't get there.

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Speaker 1: The journey didn't get to the good storytelling on who

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Speaker 1: you are. Man. But that's a beautiful thing, isn't it. Yeah, Man,

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Speaker 1: thank you for that. Man. I was I love I

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Speaker 1: love your introduction. Man. You know, never let anybody getting

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Speaker 1: away your dreams. Man, you know, because people will try

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Speaker 1: to project their insecurities on you. You know, anything is possible,

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Speaker 1: And I'm I'm a testament to that. Man. You know,

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Speaker 1: just just my journey, you know, just coming up and

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Speaker 1: like you said, knowing what I wanted to do from

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Speaker 1: a young age. I don't. I don't take for granted

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Speaker 1: that blessing because everybody, um they maybe maybe there's people

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Speaker 1: who would have had that inspiration if uh, they would

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Speaker 1: have been inspired as a kid by by something or

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Speaker 1: or someone to lead him down a certain path. But

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Speaker 1: I will say this is my character on Johnson. His

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Speaker 1: name is Gregg Johnson. He's also a late bloomer. He's

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Speaker 1: somebody who is not self motivated. He has great friends,

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Speaker 1: he loves his friends. He's a great friend. He's blunt, um,

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Speaker 1: but you know he's still trying to figure out life.

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Speaker 1: He's doing odd jobs. Even into season two, he hasn't

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Speaker 1: truly figured it out yet, and I think that's gonna

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Speaker 1: be his biggest uh character journey on this show over

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Speaker 1: the course of however many seasons, is for him to

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Speaker 1: realize what his purpose is. And obviously you've realized that, Rashawn, like,

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Speaker 1: you have a great purpose here. You know, you have

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Speaker 1: a great voice, um, and you're inspirational to a lot

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Speaker 1: of people. Now, so the tables have termed my friend, Well,

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Speaker 1: I would tell you something. First of all, will slow

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Speaker 1: you down because you know you you're talking about the

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Speaker 1: show you as you answer the courtion I ain't asked it.

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Speaker 1: I got because I would tell people why I watched

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Speaker 1: fourteen episodes unrest twenty four hours. First of all, Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, let's talk about well, you know, my my

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Speaker 1: life has always been interesting because I've been sick. I

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Speaker 1: always tell you I've been successful all my life. When

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Speaker 1: I was eighteen, the only thing I knew with eighteen

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Speaker 1: I had to I had to have good credit. That's

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Speaker 1: the only thing I knew. I knew I had to

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Speaker 1: have good credit. I held onto that and I built

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Speaker 1: my brand around my name be responsible and consistent and

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Speaker 1: having good credit, which is probably the foundation of who

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Speaker 1: I am. Now you knew it at the early age.

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Speaker 1: Now knowing something at the early age, I mean, people

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Speaker 1: can kind of like what you're talking about, you never

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Speaker 1: do that. There are a lot of distraction people like

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Speaker 1: I talked about, don't let your friends, family, you know,

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Speaker 1: to tear you, to tear your create detours in your

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Speaker 1: life from your aspiration. Talk about that and when you

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Speaker 1: finally just shut out the noise. Well, you know, I

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Speaker 1: started off doing plays, uh, when I was like eight

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Speaker 1: the plays of school, it branched off into like community theater, um,

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Speaker 1: then you know, TV shows and films in Atlanta. I

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Speaker 1: was also playing sports, you know, I ran track, I

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Speaker 1: But then the sports would start to conflict with rehearsal schedules,

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Speaker 1: athlete than it was to you know, being being an

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Speaker 1: actor at that time, or being plays, especially doing plays

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Speaker 1: in theater. Um. But I had to make that choice

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Speaker 1: because that's what that's where I felt like I had

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Speaker 1: my greatest form of expression. Um. And so I was

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Speaker 1: fortunate enough to land an agent in New York. Shout

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Speaker 1: out to the Carson Avala Agency in New York. When

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Speaker 1: And I was on Broadway when I was thirteen, And

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Speaker 1: I think from that point on, um, understanding the opportunities

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Speaker 1: it comes to creating stories, uh, and and jumping into

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Speaker 1: these roles, and obviously you know, with the money as well,

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Speaker 1: you know that was never a motivating factor for me.

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Speaker 1: But you know, it was nice to make good money

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Speaker 1: and and and and be taken care of to do

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Speaker 1: what you love to do. That's what I think, what

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Speaker 1: we all aspire for. And so um, you know, I

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Speaker 1: never I never lost sight of that. And then I

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Speaker 1: always knew from a young age as well that it

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Speaker 1: is not just about acting. It's about ownership, it's about creating,

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Speaker 1: it's about being being in control of your own narrative.

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Speaker 1: So if fifteen years old, I wrote my first feature film,

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Speaker 1: my first screenplay, and so my my career kind of

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Speaker 1: started to run parallel. I would I would act, but

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Speaker 1: I will also write, and I will also direct, and

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Speaker 1: I will also edit. I really just kind of trained

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Speaker 1: myself to be a true filmmaker. Um and and early

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Speaker 1: on at that time, man that you weren't supposed to

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Speaker 1: do that. There was a lot of managers and a

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Speaker 1: lot of agents, a lot of people who said, do

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Speaker 1: not tell all these people that you do all these

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Speaker 1: different things, because then they won't think that you do

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Speaker 1: them all. Well, right, they will think that you want

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Speaker 1: to do all these things, but you're not a professional

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Speaker 1: at all of them. But when it comes to editing,

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Speaker 1: I've been nominated for being as projects that I've edited,

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Speaker 1: been nominated for Grammys. Um, I've edited films and TV shows. Uh.

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Speaker 1: That's helped me become a better director because I understand

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Speaker 1: the coverage that I need to get. I understand how

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Speaker 1: this shot is gonna cut, with this shot even while

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Speaker 1: I'm on set. I can't tell you how many directors

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Speaker 1: don't have that forethought of that vision. And when it

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Speaker 1: gets into edit bay, we have to actually find the

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Speaker 1: story in the edit base. So that's helped us so much.

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Speaker 1: Even with what we're doing now with Johnson is understanding

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Speaker 1: directing and also post production. Um. And that's why you

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Speaker 1: know the show has the level um of of you know,

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Speaker 1: I would say quality that it has because we bring

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Speaker 1: in a nuity here. That's key. Continuity. Continuity, Yeah, continuity

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Speaker 1: and quality and we just we bring this experience. Man.

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Speaker 1: So I was fortunate enough to know what I wanted

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Speaker 1: to do since I was a kid. I was fortunate

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Speaker 1: enough to have great parents who supported that. Even if

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Speaker 1: you ran into other obstacles such as friends and other

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Speaker 1: people who might have talked down in your dreams, my

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Speaker 1: parents always pushed me and always supported me. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: and you know, be able to afford college and you

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Speaker 1: know a lot of people don't have that opportunity. And

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Speaker 1: then fortunate enough to meet my producing partner, Thomas Q. Jones,

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Speaker 1: who definitely, uh has the same work ethic and the

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Speaker 1: same vision in a lot of ways that I do.

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Speaker 1: And uh, you know, then we were able to work

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Speaker 1: on Johnson Absolutely. I'm talking to d G. Larray. He's

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00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: the creator and the executive producer and show run on

640
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: there as well as star on The Bounce TV comedy

641
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: or drama y. I like to call it Johnson, um

642
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: M a story. We've seen the white show, white women

643
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 1: on their shows multiple times, White friends, not the Friends

644
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: TV show that was on NBC, just white girlfriends. We've

645
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: seen them multiple black girlfriends shows. Several of these out

646
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: there doing fantastic. You know, you can say we can.

647
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: You know Living Single was a black girlfriends show. I've

648
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: never seen this, and if I have seen it, forgive

649
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: me out there, y'all, but I never seen it. It's good.

650
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: I've never seen it where um there was um I

651
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: felt I saw my friends. I felt I saw me.

652
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: I was engaged by the characters. I love Do Hughes.

653
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: You got so many people to show me. I know

654
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: Deo Hughes, that's my boy, said the entertainer. That's my boy,

655
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: been knowing him since Naty to him. And Eric Brown

656
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: that's my boy. Terry d know her from Steve harveysh

657
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: have been knowing her that long. So you've got a

658
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: lot of veterans in this show. I just love the earthquake.

659
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: I just love seeing that and they just they just

660
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: blend so well in this this this series that you have.

661
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: But it's the four guys that are relatable to me.

662
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: All you guys are life issues. I've never seen that

663
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: put out there like that. I'm just gonna tell you

664
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: DJ And that was important when I realized what I

665
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: was watching, because it because all that he is just

666
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: the title of Johnson. I didn't really know what I

667
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 1: was getting into. And then the show open showing these

668
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: these four days and guy, I know how many guys

669
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: it would and right, so it's so, it's so so

670
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: I'm learning on the fly, getting engaged in this show.

671
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: Episode one explains itself. Episode two they tell you how

672
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: they got the name Johnson, you know, just casually tell

673
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,919
Speaker 1: you that, and then by the end of the episode two,

674
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: you you want to see episode three because the way

675
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: they end the show is that when they end the show,

676
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: the very next episode, they pick up right where they stopped. Yeah, yeah,

677
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. Just a just a

678
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: special project talk about you and Thomas getting together. Because

679
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: I didn't want y'all to I didn't want The offer

680
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: was to interview you guys together. I said, no way.

681
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 1: I said, they have too much to tell me separately,

682
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: because your story in his story, because he played in

683
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: the NFL, that's a whole different story. I gotta talked

684
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: to him about. Okay, that transition. As you said, you

685
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 1: knew from jump as a young kid, you wanted to

686
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,919
Speaker 1: do this. He wanted to be an athlete, and people

687
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: are people push him in the direction because he's so

688
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: talented of an athlete, that's what you should do for

689
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: a living. And so now a story about four guys,

690
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: How did you get that pitch out there for people

691
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: to buy into it, especially about four black men? Well,

692
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: it was tough. It was tough, man, because historically, man,

693
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: like you said, there's not a lot of shows that

694
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: have been created like this that really died into who

695
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: the black man is, you know, the backstory of of

696
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: this black man, how he ended up, how he evolved.

697
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 1: Oftentimes we're you know, placed in shows and we're used

698
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 1: as a part of a larger narrative. But to give

699
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: us this screen time and to show our complexities like this,

700
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: you know, in my opinion, hasn't been done like this

701
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,959
Speaker 1: before as well. This shows um that I love that

702
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: that that that dive into issues that we deal with,

703
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: such as rock. You know, back in the nineties, one

704
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: of my favorite shows growing up. I was very inspired

705
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: by that show. They kept a relling that show, man, UM.

706
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: But we knew that it was time, and you know,

707
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: I wrote the original pilot, you know, years ago. UM.

708
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: It started off as just kind of just just observations

709
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: of my own experiences and other experiences, observations of not

710
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,439
Speaker 1: seeing a show like this on TV, and knowing that

711
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: we needed to have more balance to represent black men

712
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: on TV and in film and UM, and and then

713
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: also to taking the responsibility to be one of the

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00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: one who would offer that balance, you know, instead of

715
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: just sitting around and complaining about it, Why don't I

716
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: just write a show that that shows us how we

717
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: want to be seen? And black women shout up with

718
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: black women. Man, they they've recognized it, and they've taken

719
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: control of their own narrative. You know, I've said that before,

720
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: but it's so true. It's like you look at the

721
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: Renaissance and these shows about friendships between black women. UM,

722
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: the nuances and the synergy and sisterhood is really great

723
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: to watch. And we had we gotta play catch up.

724
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: We got to create shows the way that we want

725
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: to be seen, the way that we want to be

726
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: represented on TV. And so that's what this is, man,

727
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 1: and so UM, you know, I ran into Thomas Uhem,

728
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: you know, initially went to him, you know, because I

729
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: knew he was already acting, he had a great following.

730
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: I knew him for football, right, and I wanted him

731
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: to be an actor on the show. But in our

732
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 1: meetings when we sat down, the conversations we had, how

733
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: he understood the content, how he understood what I was

734
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: trying to do, the messaging, the type of stories he is.

735
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: It related to him so much, of him so much.

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00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: He was like, Yo, man, I can't just be an

737
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: actor on this show. Man, I want to be a producer.

738
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: I want to I want to push that. I want

739
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,879
Speaker 1: to I want to go into business with you and

740
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 1: produce this show. It's too important for the culture. That's

741
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: what he told me. Right. I was like, all right, man,

742
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 1: look you want to do that, Let's shoot an independent pilot.

743
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: Let's just do an independent pilot. You know, because to

744
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 1: get somebody to read in this town is very difficult,

745
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: especially if you're a new creator. So you gotta show

746
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: him something. You gotta put your money where your mouth is.

747
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: So I gave him a price tag of what it

748
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: would cost to shoot a pilot. He wrote half the

749
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: half to budget just wrote a check. I put up half,

750
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 1: he put up half. We shot the pilot, we started

751
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:48,399
Speaker 1: shopping eighteen. We had interests from some from some networks. Man.

752
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 1: We have some interest from us, some really uh uh networks,

753
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,479
Speaker 1: some pretty large networks. Man. But we feel like where

754
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: we landed, the home that we have for Johnson, that bounced,

755
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: is the best home that we could have. And I

756
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 1: say that because the built in demographic. Uh, they understand

757
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: what the show is and they allow us to tell

758
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: our stories unfiltered. They allow us to express ourselves and

759
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: represent ourselves a way that we we the way that

760
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: our our vision goes untouched on that on that network.

761
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: And so they're an incredible partner, man. Um. Yeah, So

762
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: myself and Thomas, you know, the show got the attention

763
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: of Rischa l Archibald over at the Burden of Bear Entertainment,

764
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: who works with your people's Eric c Rowan and Cedric

765
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: the entertainer and and and uh you know, shout out

766
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 1: the Reachia Man, the first person one of the first

767
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: people to producers on the show. Yeah, the executive producers

768
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: reaches executive producer, one of the first people to see

769
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: the value in this show. Rashaun was a black woman

770
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: because we reminded her of her brothers and her family.

771
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: That's that's what we keep saying, is like, this show

772
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: represents the vast majority. But if I ask you, you know,

773
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: compare this show to like another show where you know,

774
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: a bunch of black dudes are selling drugs and things

775
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: like that all out of all the black men in

776
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: your life. Which show is more relatable to the black

777
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: men in your life? Most people, especially in my life

778
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 1: and people around me, would say the guys on Johnson

779
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: versus the guys on another show? Um, and so why

780
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: can't we have both? Right? Because this show is dope.

781
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: I love prime dramas, man, I watched them all the time.

782
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: I'm i'm uh, they're they're in escape. I mean, you know,

783
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: I enjoy them. I might create a show like that

784
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: one day, you know. But the key and the trick

785
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: is to have balance, is to be able to watch

786
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: the show over here and then turn around and watch

787
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: Johnson and you know, and feel refreshed, like, okay, we

788
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: feel represented all across the board. That's the key. So

789
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 1: Eric and Cedric saw the value in this show, and

790
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 1: Richa took it to him. Man, they came on board

791
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: as executive producers and take it over to Bounce Mr

792
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 1: David Hudson, and it's just been a beautiful partnership ever since. Man,

793
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: and we're on a season two absolutely absolutely, I'm on

794
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: episode four of the season two. Can't wait till season

795
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,720
Speaker 1: five this week. You know. The the interesting thing about

796
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: the show just speaking to my fans as well as

797
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: talking to you as that you know, it's a show

798
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: about you know, we see the women and we see

799
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: their layers, we see their attachments, and you know, I

800
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: was fortunately be a part of Steve Harvey and this

801
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: act like a lady, think like a man. That kind

802
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: of like changed the game of how relationship stories are

803
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 1: told to everybody. So three million books worldwide. Book was

804
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: translated into thirty languages and made two movies out of it.

805
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: And so when I come to this, I'm going I

806
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: see your character. You know, it's a layer character. You

807
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 1: know you're in denial by past love and you don't

808
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: know how to move forward. Never saw that old TV. Okay,

809
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: you know. Then you have Thomas character. You know, he's

810
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: kind of a little chauvinistic because he has some old

811
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: school values and he keeps using language like you know,

812
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: women out of pocket. You know they want you know

813
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: that what you hear in the streets, which is really cool.

814
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: And then you have Keith's character. You know, he doesn't

815
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: as as a man, he doesn't know what it takes

816
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: to get the right woman in his life. So he

817
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: continually accepts what's given to him instead of instead of

818
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: demanding what he should have. And then you have Jarvis character,

819
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: which is in conflict with your character because your character

820
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 1: is kind of like you know, like Greg Slash Malcolm

821
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: X and jovis over there. He's an he's an interracial character,

822
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: so he has to deal with that whole you know,

823
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: you're going out in the streets. You were the white

824
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: woman in the community, going really really and he doesn't

825
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: know how to deal with that. And so you have

826
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: these four brothers who last name of Johnson, who are

827
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 1: mentored by d. L. Hughley's character talking about DL Hughleish

828
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: rolling this because it's fantastic. Man. Uh let me just

829
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: say this. DL Hughley said you. The entertainer also appears

830
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: on the show. Um He did an episode in season

831
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: one and in season two. That's that's another topic that

832
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: we wanted to make. Um brings the forefront on the

833
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: show is how important generational respect is. You know, how

834
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: important it is to be able to get information from

835
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: the people who came before you. They have something to

836
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 1: say and for you to use that information. So his character,

837
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: Man is is kind of the voice of voice of reason.

838
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: He's the guy who mentors us like like like you said,

839
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,240
Speaker 1: he has his own radio show. He's the voice of people.

840
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: You know, only very very very smooth, strong suave voice.

841
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: UM who's who's also experienced a lot of the things

842
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: that the guy that the Johnson men are going through.

843
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: He's also related to Thomas's character. He's his uncle, so

844
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: he's a Johnson as well. Um. In front of the

845
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: camera on set and offset. You know, we have so

846
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 1: much respect for d L. We have so much respect

847
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: for Cedric, so much respect for Eric. These guys have

848
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: been in the business. They paid the way for us,

849
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: and you know the only way, uh that I the

850
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: only thing that I see that is the most important

851
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: thing in this industry, Man, is to bring somebody else

852
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: up and have them continue running with you and and

853
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: and continue you know, passing the baton. And that's what

854
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 1: they did, man. You know, Eric and Cedric Man, they

855
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: saw the vision UM and and other cultures do it

856
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: all the time. You know, I don't think that we

857
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: do it as much as we should. Man, So hats

858
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: off the Eric and Cedric Man forgiving Thomas and I

859
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: young creators an opportunity to create this show, and we

860
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: have their full support. Man, it's been it's been an

861
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: incredible journey so far. We'll be right back with more

862
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now, let's return

863
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald speaking with

864
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 1: Larray wanted the stars as well as UM show runner,

865
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 1: creator writer. You know, let's to make sure he gets

866
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 1: credit for that, because they're thrown out some incredible scripts. Man.

867
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,760
Speaker 1: The dialogue is on point, the editing his own point,

868
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: the lightnings on point, no sound issues, the continue his own.

869
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: I'm just when you see fourteen episodes as fast as

870
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: I've seen fourteen, you get to see it laid out

871
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: right and you get to see if there is a

872
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: mistake they could have done this done. They're just a

873
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: beautiful series that I'm serious of talking about. It's called Johnson.

874
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: You can catch it on the Bounds Network. The beauty

875
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: of it is that the relationships that's the power of

876
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: this show. And did the episode four ended with kind

877
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: of like some cliffhangers emotionally for me, I'm not gonna

878
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: get him to tell me what's happening in the future,

879
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: Cus while you gotta watch series. But Terry Jay Vaughan

880
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: comes into the series. She came in and corrected when

881
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: he said mrs. She said, miss okay, okale, okay, but

882
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: I might be wrong. I'm to be wrong in my belief.

883
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: But she corrected him and said miss and she was

884
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: looking good all right. And then but boy jobs rescue

885
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: you Danny for a crisis. I went, okay, okay, okay,

886
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 1: maybe maybe maybe I might be misreading something. But guess

887
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: what good writing takes you in those directions when you

888
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: when you sit down, let's talk about that writing room, sir.

889
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: Who all is in that room? And uh? And it

890
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: is a drama d it's not a sitcoms. If you

891
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: have your funny moments, but you have your life moments,

892
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: your your storytelling moments, your journeys of truism and also

893
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: about being a black man in America, talk to us.

894
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: So the name of the show, Johnson represents the fact

895
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: that we all have the same um, a lot of

896
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: the same um obstacles as black men in America. So

897
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: it's very symbolic that we all have the same last name.

898
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: There's no relation. Um. So once you watch the show

899
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: and you pull back those ladies, you get to see

900
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: how different we are and how different we can be.

901
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: Whether it's our way of thinking, you know, when it

902
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 1: comes to you know, um, you know, uh politics, whether

903
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: it's our way of thinking when it comes to how

904
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: we see the world in a lot of different ways.

905
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: And so that's what the show is. It's about those relationships.

906
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 1: It's about these characters. Uh. It's about showing black men

907
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 1: is being vulnerable. It's about showing black men as being

908
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: emotionally intelligent, being able to handle lot of differences in

909
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 1: conflict um without resorting the violence, of course, which is

910
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: normal for us, but we gotta say it. Um. It's

911
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: about showing this brotherhood. It's about showing the portrayal how

912
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: they get over that, and it's about showing our relationship

913
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: with black women. Right. So you brought up Terry Jay Vaughan,

914
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,240
Speaker 1: and you brought up Danny who's played by Chloe James,

915
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: and these are too incredible uh, talents. You know, I've

916
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 1: been watching Terry for a long time, nothing but love

917
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: and respect for her. She's incredible. Um yeah, she said.

918
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 1: You know it's not Mrs is miss you know what

919
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So we'll see, we'll see if anything happens.

920
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: You know everybody already, you know when it comes to Terry,

921
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: you know, you know and Cedric, you know, Lavida, Alexa Jenkins,

922
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like that relationship between her

923
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: and says character on the Steve Harvey Show is untouched

924
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: and unmatched. We're not trying to We're not trying to

925
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: do that. What we're doing is, like you said, it's

926
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: a drama. So, um, it's real life. That's the genre

927
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:43,280
Speaker 1: of the show. Things are funny, we laugh, things are serious,

928
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: we cry. Things are funny, we cry, things are serious,

929
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: we laugh. You can't really predict the emotion you're gonna feel.

930
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: You just gotta ride with the emotions. So what we

931
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: try to do on this show is just be as

932
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: authentic as possible and what that looks like. So for

933
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,439
Speaker 1: you know, for for her character, she's a principal. Here's

934
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: a guy, Greg, who's a maintenance man at the school,

935
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 1: you know, she's she's beautiful, he's attractive, she's single, he's single.

936
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 1: What would naturally happen in this situation and what could

937
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: stand in the way of that? A lot of things

938
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: can stand in the way of that, and I think

939
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna see that as the as the show, UH

940
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: develops even more. Um. We deal with a lot of

941
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,720
Speaker 1: things on this show, like you know, diving into religion.

942
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 1: Classism is explored on this show, and in the myth

943
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: of the absentee father. I mean going back to Chloe's character,

944
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: which is Danny, the black man protecting the black woman, right,

945
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: and so here he is she needs help, He's there

946
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,439
Speaker 1: to help her. What gets in the way of that?

947
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: What conflict, especially with him being a married man, what

948
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: stands in the way of that? So it's all of

949
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: these complexities. Man. We try do make the show as

950
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: unpredictable as possible while debunking stereotypes and myth myths about

951
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: black men and black women. I would tell you this, UM,

952
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: great series. Johnson is a great, great, great series. UM

953
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: impressed again the directing, the writing, the acting, the believability

954
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: of the characters. They are are they are authentic. Uh.

955
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: Earthquake I love the death deal hugely. I love to

956
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: death Um bringing on Terry J. Vaughan. Been a family

957
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: friends since since ninety five. That's how long I've been

958
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: doing Terry Okay, been doing. Has been knowing Cedric and

959
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: Eric Rohan since ninety two. Brought him down to my

960
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: comedy club in Houston, Texas hip Hop comm That's how

961
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: long I've known these people. Del hugely brought him down,

962
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: been knowing him since ninety one. So you have relationships

963
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: that I'm so happy to see that they're working and

964
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: doing great things in this business and telling everybody. I

965
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: see a guy that going on as a producer, as

966
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: also a talent in front of the camera and behind

967
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:10,280
Speaker 1: the camera. But more importantly, DJ Ray your special brother.

968
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: You as a kid that just something you want to

969
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: do and and disguise are the limit for you. I

970
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: definitely want to connect with you off camera, you know.

971
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: I just want to be in busy with you, brother.

972
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 1: I really do you and Thomas, I want to be

973
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: in business. That means a lot because I've been following

974
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: your career as well. Man, I studied everybody, so I

975
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 1: know all of your accolades, I know all of your accomplishments,

976
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: and there's things that I don't know that I want

977
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: to get to know. Brother, you know what I mean.

978
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 1: I have so much respect for Like I said, when

979
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: it comes to d L said, all these guys yourself,

980
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: I've been hearing about you, man. I think probably when

981
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: I first moved to l A man, this was like,

982
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: it's a while, a long time ago, man, um, and

983
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: then just started like because I'm all about the people

984
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,439
Speaker 1: in front of the camera, but also the people behind

985
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: the scenes making things happen. So I studied those Those

986
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 1: are the guys to me, people making things happen behind

987
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 1: the scenes where where you know they don't get as

988
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 1: much a praise and respect that they should. Man. But

989
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: I'm that guy who notices all of that. I see everything. Man,

990
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: So much respect to you, man, I appreciate, I appreciate

991
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 1: the kind words. I appreciate you loving the series and

992
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: was only gonna get better, man, trust and believe that cool.

993
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: I want to thank you for coming on Money Making

994
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: conversation and we will talk soon. And I will be

995
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: talking to thom must Q Jones as well, because he's

996
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: gonna be a separate interview because I'm about promoting and

997
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: promoting and promoting. Thank you, and keep producing that. I

998
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:38,280
Speaker 1: got my brother. Yeah, I'm hooked. I get my information

999
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 1: for Chris Man and Chris we're gonna connect. And Chris said,

1000
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna do that already before you came on live.

1001
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: I already No, No, I got to meet with these brothers,

1002
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 1: and I got some more people. I want y'all to

1003
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 1: meet as well, not just me. That's how much I

1004
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: think this, this relationship needs to be expounded upon. Okay,

1005
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 1: thank you brother, thank you for coming to Money Make Conversation.

1006
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 1: Back to class. I always remember with your gifts, keep winning.

1007
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: Is Rushan McDonald. I am your host. You've been listening

1008
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Always remember

1009
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: to lead with your gifts. Money Making Conversations Masterclass is

1010
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 1: a presentation of thirty eight fifteen Media Incorporated. You are

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Speaker 1: now tuned into the Money Making Conversations Minute of Inspiration

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Speaker 1: with Rushan McDonald. Hi, I'm Rashan McDonald for Money Making

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Speaker 1: Conversation Masterclass with your daily minute of Inspiration. This week,

1014
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Speaker 1: I sat down with serial entrepreneur, brand strategist and found

1015
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Speaker 1: of Slutty Vegan Bar Vegan and the Peaky Cole Foundation,

1016
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Speaker 1: Peaky Cold herself. Peaky Cold shares why it is important

1017
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Speaker 1: just pick up when an opportunity presents itself. So Steve

1018
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: Man happened because I was I went to a collaboration

1019
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 1: event that Steve Man was hosting, and one thing about

1020
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: me is nothing be trive but to failure. So I'm

1021
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:57,720
Speaker 1: gonna ask for the things that I want. So Steve

1022
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: Man was on the you and I told him, I said, listen,

1023
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Speaker 1: you might not know who I am now, but I

1024
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Speaker 1: need you to google me because I have one of

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Speaker 1: the most popular concepts of the country and you and

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Speaker 1: I need to collaborate. And then you know, he came

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Speaker 1: back and said, let's set up a call, let's do it,

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Speaker 1: and now here we are. If you want to listen

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