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Speaker 2: How are.
Speaker 3: You doing well?
Speaker 2: How are you good? Man?
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like I'm on the treadmill
Speaker 1: right now. I'm just running.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it definitely feels like it's ah. I don't
Speaker 3: know if this is a taste of training camp, but
Speaker 3: it definitely feels like. One the weather was fit the
Speaker 3: bill of training camp, and two you really get the
Speaker 3: sentence that this team's gonna get after it pretty good
Speaker 3: in a month or so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we should say here on Thursday that today's
Speaker 1: practice was a little bit of a lighter.
Speaker 3: One, Yes, exactly. And you know, I think it was
Speaker 3: cool that Coach Glenn talked about it where he's like,
Speaker 3: I kind of know he has a good sense of
Speaker 3: what strings or which strings to pull, which strings to
Speaker 3: push and when, because he obviously worked these guys as
Speaker 3: much as he could, you know, within the parameters of
Speaker 3: the NFLPA. And Michael Carter the second said like after
Speaker 3: the light practice today, I don't think the players knew
Speaker 3: that Coach Glenn was gonna call it early. And then
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, Michael Carter's like, you know what,
Speaker 3: Like he said to trust him because he's gonna work us,
Speaker 3: but then he's also gonna make sure that he takes
Speaker 3: care of you. So I think we saw a glimpse
Speaker 3: of that today. And you know what I thought was
Speaker 3: really fun obviously was the offensive lineman going through not
Speaker 3: receiver drills, but almost like the game day receiver warm
Speaker 3: ups where you're just kind of jogging down the sideline,
Speaker 3: and uh, Coach Glenn kind of say, I don't think
Speaker 3: there's some offensive linemen that have some hands.
Speaker 1: All right, everybody is here for the Jets content and
Speaker 1: they want to hear about mini camp, but let's talk
Speaker 1: about how we started our days.
Speaker 2: Were you in the gym today?
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: Do you have any tells from the gym?
Speaker 3: No? No, Usually you see some you see some stuff
Speaker 3: going on where it's like, you know, either a real
Speaker 3: life situation or you're like, what's this dude wearing flip
Speaker 3: flops doing pull ups in a bathing suit like that
Speaker 3: kind of deal. But you know, take a city. No,
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I don't know. That happened a
Speaker 3: couple days ago, where you know, if you're wearing flip
Speaker 3: flops at the gym, you're doing pull ups. I have
Speaker 3: some serious questions.
Speaker 2: All right, So were you in the gym? I was
Speaker 2: inspired again this morning?
Speaker 1: Okay, there was this dude in there, squad three sixty
Speaker 1: five three times.
Speaker 3: No problem, really, no problem, life through butter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, is.
Speaker 1: He and then he moved over the young young dude
Speaker 1: or yeah, I'd say he's under thirty okay, so for
Speaker 1: me that's young yeah, yeah, yeah, And he grabs a
Speaker 1: pair of hundreds dumbbells Hungarian split squats hundreds he's.
Speaker 3: Doing a Hungarian split squats, yeah, with one hundred pounds
Speaker 3: in each hand with hondows? Is this guy a tank?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: What is it is?
Speaker 2: He just overheard I overheard him talking.
Speaker 1: A little bit because somebody said you should have played football.
Speaker 1: He's about two forty, it's probably six six.
Speaker 3: Can we get like a player cop like physique wise
Speaker 3: on the Jets.
Speaker 4: That's like would be like a tight end probably okay,
Speaker 4: like a rucker like six six, yeah, like fifty, like
Speaker 4: a slimmer of rock maybe okay, so maybe like a receiver,
Speaker 4: like a converted receiver tight end, like a hybrid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this, dude, I mean that was impressive. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I've been going to this gym for several years and
Speaker 1: I've not seen that.
Speaker 3: That's very impressive.
Speaker 1: When somebody gets up to the squad three sixty five,
Speaker 1: no problem, no groaning, nothing easy, Okay.
Speaker 3: I think what really gets me is the split squat.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was crazy, And I know people are like, okay,
Speaker 1: you know some people are gonna comment, but like boll,
Speaker 1: that was nothing.
Speaker 2: No, this is this is some serious work.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, that's beyond like. So again, I wonder if
Speaker 3: you've told that to any player on the Jets. I
Speaker 3: feel like they they think that's a freaky trait that
Speaker 3: someone is doing split squats with one hundred pound dumbells.
Speaker 2: Yeah, someone he's dropping dumb bells.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the place, it's like an earthquake. Yeah, six
Speaker 3: point is there like a padded floor though it has
Speaker 3: to be right, like like a foamy type thing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there's a there's one gym there. There's one gym in
Speaker 3: the city that like it has the two back machines
Speaker 3: like facing this way. Then there's like almost like a sandwich,
Speaker 3: and then on one side there's a pull up, like
Speaker 3: assisted pull up. So if you're in the middle of
Speaker 3: assisted pull up and someone's doing the back plat pulldowns
Speaker 3: and it's a heavyweight and they let go you're doing
Speaker 3: a pull up, your arms start shaking really crazy.
Speaker 2: That's hilarious.
Speaker 1: And then another time I felt bad for this young
Speaker 1: lady because she said that some guy was using the
Speaker 1: bench and all he was doing was looking on his phone.
Speaker 2: That is a big no no for me.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say that sounds like you might have
Speaker 3: said it because I know that that's your pet beams.
Speaker 2: All right, let's get back to the Jets here.
Speaker 3: Quick day.
Speaker 1: Here a lot accomplished here for the Jets throughout the
Speaker 1: entire offseason, going back to Phase one through now let's
Speaker 1: start Tuesday, though, what you saw out there on the
Speaker 1: field overcast day, a couple of sprinkles out there.
Speaker 2: But one thing that stood out to me was.
Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn immediately discuss the fact that he likes what
Speaker 1: he's seeing it from his quarterback justin fields, and he
Speaker 1: pointed out in incompletion to start.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I was gonna say, I feel like
Speaker 3: the days are running a little bit together for me.
Speaker 3: So I'm glad that you mentioned that because the play
Speaker 3: that he was referencing was an incompletion because instead of
Speaker 3: trying to force the ball downfield or force it to,
Speaker 3: you know, a covered receiver, he just threw it away,
Speaker 3: meaning fields. And I think that that's something not watching
Speaker 3: justin fields throughout his first couple seasons in the NFL.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's done that a lot. I
Speaker 3: would imagine that as a young quarterback. I mean we've
Speaker 3: seen it here with the Jets, where young quarterbacks try
Speaker 3: to force the ball into the receiver's hands into tight
Speaker 3: windows and they don't need to and you have to
Speaker 3: live to fight another down. And you know, sometimes simple
Speaker 3: is effective, even though it might be boring. But boring
Speaker 3: doesn't necessarily mean it's bad in football, And I think
Speaker 3: that's kind of what Aaron Glenn was talking about out
Speaker 3: and you know, there were plenty of plays, though I
Speaker 3: will say maybe not in that particular practice.
Speaker 2: We can talk about it as a whole. Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 1: I just went back to Tuesday. I just thought it
Speaker 1: was very interesting. Is that That's one thing that was
Speaker 1: the first thing that came out of Aaron's mouth. It
Speaker 1: wasn't about this completion of there was downfield strike or
Speaker 1: this scramble, but it was just.
Speaker 2: His decision making.
Speaker 1: And that's the one thing I want to point out
Speaker 1: here is that Fields his decision making if you look
Speaker 1: at his career, has gotten better at each step, at
Speaker 1: each different level as far as the years have gone by.
Speaker 1: And last year with Pittsburgh he appeared in ten games,
Speaker 1: he won interception and only two turnovers.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah. And I think also it's important to note
Speaker 3: in terms of these practices that it was a little
Speaker 3: bit of a different format to OTAs Obviously the rules
Speaker 3: are still the same in terms of no contact, but
Speaker 3: in OTA's there was the team period. There was a
Speaker 3: seven on seven period Tuesdays and Wednesday's practice before Thursday's
Speaker 3: light lighter session was one long move the ball period,
Speaker 3: different situations kind of sprinkled here throughout, but it was
Speaker 3: you know, we started this yard line. You have opportunities
Speaker 3: to lead your respective unit down the field for field goal,
Speaker 3: for a touchdown. And on that day Tuesday, when Aaron
Speaker 3: Glenn talked about how he was impressed with fields decision making,
Speaker 3: he led two field goal drives. And you know that.
Speaker 3: I don't believe there were any touchdown drives that day,
Speaker 3: but it was still to your point, even though there's
Speaker 3: no pads, you can only take so much from these practices.
Speaker 3: It's good to see someone seemingly believe that his quarterback
Speaker 3: is making progression from even last year, which was a
Speaker 3: career year.
Speaker 1: You can't talk Field without talking Garrett Wilson. I will
Speaker 1: say this before we go back the G five. The
Speaker 1: most outstanding player for me throughout the spring without it
Speaker 1: out was Wilson.
Speaker 2: He is incredible.
Speaker 1: Okay, every day watching him and we go back to Tuesday,
Speaker 1: and again we're not going to do a play by
Speaker 1: play here, We're not doing stats, but I believe on
Speaker 1: the first seven offensive plays he touched the ball either
Speaker 1: five or four times.
Speaker 3: Yes, we wrote in the practice report. Field started the
Speaker 3: first eleven play drive with a pass to wide receiver
Speaker 3: Garrett Wilson, who was targeted four times in the first
Speaker 3: seven plays.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but I did say touches because I think
Speaker 1: he actually had five touches.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, You're right.
Speaker 1: And look, so we can't tell everybody where everybody's lining
Speaker 1: up and what's exactly the play was.
Speaker 3: I mean, but again, I do think that goes to
Speaker 3: show that Aaron Glenn said that they're going to try
Speaker 3: to get the ball to Garret Wilson as much as possible. Obviously,
Speaker 3: Tanner Engstrand isn't like opening up the playbook in June.
Speaker 3: But you get this, You see motion and you see
Speaker 3: some creative aspects that I think Jets fans should be
Speaker 3: excited about. And with Garrett Wilson, I think what's really
Speaker 3: cool is that he's obviously a spectacular player, and it
Speaker 3: seems every year he just seems to be a little
Speaker 3: more comfortable, a little more smooth, a little more efficient,
Speaker 3: and he just moves a little differently than everybody else.
Speaker 1: The first time Field's got the ball on Wednesday, a
Speaker 1: move the ball period. He dials up the long ball, spectacular,
Speaker 1: spectacular touch to Wilson, who catches it, who finds it
Speaker 1: in the.
Speaker 2: Air and catches it inside the five yard line.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a great play, I mean, and you know,
Speaker 3: it was one of those plays where it's good coverage
Speaker 3: even or great coverage even better throw. And so I
Speaker 3: think that that is one of the throws and the
Speaker 3: touchdown to Josh Reynolds. I think that was a couple
Speaker 3: of plays after that where they were pinpoint throws from
Speaker 3: justin fields. And again it's not like he's dealing with
Speaker 3: a lot of pressure, the potential you know, getting hit,
Speaker 3: getting tackled, like there was none of that. But it
Speaker 3: was still nice to see on air, Yes, that the
Speaker 3: ball was being thrown and spun at a high level.
Speaker 1: And you said, Brandon Stevens right there had good coverage
Speaker 1: and the long ball. Now, in terms of that touchdown
Speaker 1: pass to Josh Reynolds, man, the placement on that ball,
Speaker 1: it goes down if you're scoring at home as less
Speaker 1: than a ten yard scoring pass, maybe even it was
Speaker 1: a five yard scorner.
Speaker 2: Yes, but the accuracy on that.
Speaker 1: Andre Cisco was in good position. The ball was just
Speaker 1: in a perfect spot. Yeah, yet low corner, you know,
Speaker 1: right in front of the pylon.
Speaker 3: It was awesome there you go, and I will say
Speaker 3: we've talked about it a little bit at times, like
Speaker 3: the energy at practice Reynolds scores, the entire offense, including
Speaker 3: guys from the sideline, all run across the field to
Speaker 3: celebrate with Renold, like Glenn is talking about the competes
Speaker 3: periods and how he wants a team to be competitive
Speaker 3: and show it. Well, not only is the team being competitive,
Speaker 3: but they're also I don't want to say they're definitely
Speaker 3: not like over celebrating, but they're making sure to celebrate
Speaker 3: their wins when they had the chance to. And I
Speaker 3: think it's awesome. I think that training camp is going
Speaker 3: to be really fun to watch and it's gonna be
Speaker 3: fun thing to be a part of, I would imagine,
Speaker 3: because if you're a player on either side of the ball,
Speaker 3: you know that you're gonna have an opportunity to make
Speaker 3: plays and be competitive, and that's really all you can
Speaker 3: ask for.
Speaker 2: So Tuesday, Wednesday, first two drives.
Speaker 1: Tuesday, first two drives on Wednesday, the fields has the
Speaker 1: offense in position to score each time they come away
Speaker 1: with two field goals on Tuesday. The Reynolds touchdown on Wednesday,
Speaker 1: his second drive he got and you wrote about this.
Speaker 1: Here's the situation, twenty to fourteen, twenty eight seconds left,
Speaker 1: no timeouts. You're starting your own thirty five, so you
Speaker 1: got to go sixty five yards in order.
Speaker 2: To win the ballgame.
Speaker 1: In this situation, he led his group to the one
Speaker 1: yard line.
Speaker 2: Nice job by.
Speaker 1: Fields here, creating something when it didn't look like something
Speaker 1: was happening.
Speaker 2: I believe it was fourth and long.
Speaker 1: He scrambles and he looks for Garrett Wilson, and Wilson
Speaker 1: was able to draw the DPI That gave the offense
Speaker 1: another opportunity for the one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was It was again a competitive drive
Speaker 3: because before that, similar to the following drive led by
Speaker 3: Tyrod Taylor, you really thought the offense was on the
Speaker 3: verge of stalling out. Yeah, And sure enough, Dpi on
Speaker 3: timed down at the one, and Fields again looked for
Speaker 3: Garrett Wilson, and it was an outside like it was
Speaker 3: almost like an out route that went to the pilot.
Speaker 3: It looked like or it felt like.
Speaker 2: A little bit of a scramble draw. I'm gonna make
Speaker 2: myself available for the quarterback. I see him getting out
Speaker 2: a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so that fell incomplete and Tyrod Taylor the
Speaker 3: following drive, it looked like they were that unit was
Speaker 3: on the brink of stalling, and Brandon Smith over the
Speaker 3: middle like a long completion gave that that group life
Speaker 3: and then I believe didn't they score Tyrod run it in, Yes,
Speaker 3: yes he did so then that group scored off of that,
Speaker 3: and you know, I believe I'm ninety nine. It was
Speaker 3: Azaria A Thomas Ai A Thomas who was in coverage
Speaker 3: on the Brandon Smith play, and like, I just think
Speaker 3: that he was again good coverage. That right there is
Speaker 3: probably a teachable moment for him because it's I think,
Speaker 3: really what we've noticed in mini camp, situational football will
Speaker 3: be stressed throughout every practice.
Speaker 1: Okay, just getting back to fields real quick. Yes, we
Speaker 1: were out of three OTA's. We talked about this at
Speaker 1: length last week, that the media is only allowed out
Speaker 1: to three of the ten. Then you have mandatory mini camp,
Speaker 1: mandatory mini camp, and you're out for each session.
Speaker 2: Knock on glass here.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get back to fields for second and say
Speaker 1: I didn't see him turn the ball over in any
Speaker 1: of the successions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm trying to think if maybe there was a
Speaker 3: tips pass or something at one of the time, but
Speaker 3: I don't in a team situation, I don't think, so
Speaker 3: that's what I'm trying to think of. And but again,
Speaker 3: he only he threw one interception last year, right right
Speaker 3: ten to one. I mean five of them were rushing,
Speaker 3: five of them were throwing touchdowns, and one pick, which
Speaker 3: was a considerable decrease I believe from years past. I
Speaker 3: don't think that there was a turnover. You know, the
Speaker 3: turnovers that stand out to me is the like the
Speaker 3: Jalen Simpson turnovers, But that wasn't from justin Fields. Also
Speaker 3: because Jalen Simpson then decides to do something incredibly acrobatic.
Speaker 3: He did the cartwheel into the backflip. He pretended to
Speaker 3: he pretended to dunk on the goalpost.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But so we're gonna get to the defense here in
Speaker 1: a little bit. But again, Fields, solid spring. You gotta
Speaker 1: be impressed by the way not only he's looked on
Speaker 1: the field, but also the way he carries himself.
Speaker 2: And I think the players gravitate towards him.
Speaker 1: There's this calm, there's this confidence about him.
Speaker 2: He's growing.
Speaker 1: He's twenty six years old, new system, but you really
Speaker 1: feel like he's getting comfortable here, and that's what the
Speaker 1: spring was all about.
Speaker 2: Offensive line.
Speaker 1: Listen, we're gonna find out a lot more once the
Speaker 1: pads come on. But you like the talent assembled up there,
Speaker 1: there's no doubt about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's hard not to like the talent
Speaker 3: up front. End. Again, to your point, I couldn't sit
Speaker 3: here and tell you how how well armand Membu practiced.
Speaker 3: You know, there's no pads. I'm not an offensive line expert.
Speaker 3: It's hard to tell because you know, in the moment
Speaker 3: you're not really allowed to have contact. So that's the
Speaker 3: missing link in all this in terms of evaluating and
Speaker 3: really just trying to see even if you're the media,
Speaker 3: if you're us out there, like you want to see
Speaker 3: what he looks like, it's hard to tell.
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, these are positive experiences when
Speaker 1: he's matched up against Will McDonald's.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm glad you mentioned that because there was
Speaker 3: a tweet that was like, you know, Will McDonald's eating
Speaker 3: armand Membu for lunch and look, there's no pads. Will
Speaker 3: McDonald's also a very good pass rusher. You had double
Speaker 3: digit sacks and he's put on fifteen pounds and armand
Speaker 3: member's twenty one years old.
Speaker 1: Yeah, these are outstanding experiences for.
Speaker 2: Him out totally right now. And then the competition off front.
Speaker 2: You gotta like it.
Speaker 1: You had a guy Myers into the equation in him
Speaker 1: a tip, you know, getting some valuable run at the
Speaker 1: center position.
Speaker 2: I would be remissed if we didn't talk about Breese
Speaker 2: Hall a little bit. He addressed the media this week.
Speaker 3: Your thoughts, Yeah, I think pres All seems to I mean,
Speaker 3: he said he always has a chip on his shoulder,
Speaker 3: but look he's saying all the right things. But I
Speaker 3: also think he believes them like I don't. The Jets
Speaker 3: have three talented running backs and Braylan Allen, Isaiah Davis
Speaker 3: and Breeze Hall. Just hearing coach Glenn talk and Tanner
Speaker 3: engstrand the OC, it definitely sounds like they're all going
Speaker 3: to play. But hearing Brice say his story with AG
Speaker 3: when he when AG calls him, He's like, Brice, you
Speaker 3: think I want to trade you? It's like, I don't know,
Speaker 3: do you fair question? Glenn's like, no, I don't like
Speaker 3: you're You're the running back of this team, and so
Speaker 3: I think that that means something. I don't think Glenn
Speaker 3: is someone to give fluff or you.
Speaker 1: Knows right exactly so if he says it when he
Speaker 1: calls Brice all and says, I want you here, you're
Speaker 1: a running.
Speaker 3: Back, so so to me. Yeah, I think that again
Speaker 3: one of those positions where we won't really be able
Speaker 3: to tell what twenty twenty five Breese Hall, twenty twenty
Speaker 3: five Braylan Allen or twenty twenty five Isaiah Davis really
Speaker 3: look like until the pats come off. But Braylan Allen,
Speaker 3: by the way, he might be the front runner in
Speaker 3: terms of one hundred pounds split squats in one dumbbell
Speaker 3: each hand. And I had to bet I think it'd
Speaker 3: probably be him.
Speaker 2: Yo, he'd be a monster in the weight room.
Speaker 1: We know that.
Speaker 2: Well, we know he's a monster in a weight room.
Speaker 3: I mean, but I'd like to see him just pull
Speaker 3: up at like the local gym, just like and pretend
Speaker 3: he's not an NFL player. See what people think.
Speaker 1: I think he's a guy. You just hey, you need
Speaker 1: anything over here, I'll clear out of the way.
Speaker 2: I want to get a down year for Breese Hall.
Speaker 1: Yeah, eight hundred and seventy six yards on the ground.
Speaker 1: Remind you the Jets were lasting rushing at times last season.
Speaker 1: Five touchdowns also targeted seventy six times the fifty seven
Speaker 1: reception four hundred and eighty three yards. I love his
Speaker 1: attitude because he said, I feel my skill set is that.
Speaker 2: I'm a three down back. That's second and none.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, I think that again, people are gonna say, well,
Speaker 3: you know, are you concerned that Braylen Allen and Isaiah
Speaker 3: Davis might seemingly get run with you? Who's to say
Speaker 3: there's not gonna be a multiple running back set. We
Speaker 3: saw that a little bit last year at times with
Speaker 3: specifically Brayln Allen in Breeze Hall.
Speaker 2: They all can catch out of the backfield. Yeah.
Speaker 3: To me, it's like the more you can do, the better.
Speaker 3: And I'm I don't think that's gonna be an issue.
Speaker 3: The Jets have a lot of different options how to
Speaker 3: gain yards on the ground. They have a little different
Speaker 3: flavor between Breese, Braylan and Isaiah and I think that's
Speaker 3: a good thing and I'm I'm excited to see what
Speaker 3: that looks like here in a couple of months.
Speaker 2: No pants are out the spring.
Speaker 1: But AG's right when he says that, I think I
Speaker 1: take my three against anybody in the NFL totally, And
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think we're that far removed from
Speaker 1: looking at these guys.
Speaker 2: Is Hey, the Jets have.
Speaker 1: A really bright future with Garrett Wilson and Brief Hall,
Speaker 1: so it's gonna be really fun to watch it all
Speaker 1: develop again. Tanner Angstrand, he's creative. I will tell you
Speaker 1: that we can't get into all the plays that we
Speaker 1: saw out there.
Speaker 2: He's got a creative mind. Anybody who watched Detroit.
Speaker 1: Last year knows that our last few years he's the
Speaker 1: passing game coordinator.
Speaker 2: But he's gonna put his own spin on things as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's another you know, unknown right, Like it's
Speaker 3: his first time calling plays in the NFL. But to
Speaker 3: your point, he comes from a system that's obviously very
Speaker 3: successful in Detroit with Ben Johnson who's now the coach
Speaker 3: of the Bears. And to me, it's not gonna be
Speaker 3: a carbon copy. The personnel's different. I mean, look at
Speaker 3: the quarterbacks. They couldn't be more polar opposite in terms
Speaker 3: of Jared Goff for the Lions and Justin Fields for
Speaker 3: the Jets. But with that being said, doesn't mean that
Speaker 3: Angschrand doesn't have philosophies or his own wrinkles and twists
Speaker 3: that he wants to implement here with fields and with
Speaker 3: the personnel that the Green and White have. And you know,
Speaker 3: I'd defer back to what Aaron Glenn said in the
Speaker 3: combine at the NFL Annual League Meeting, where it's not
Speaker 3: this is our offense, We're gonna spoonfeed it to you.
Speaker 3: It's what is the best offense we can create with
Speaker 3: the personnel that we have. And that's true for every
Speaker 3: year according to Aaron Glenn.
Speaker 2: Am I wrong though, for what I said? My assessment
Speaker 2: on Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 3: No, No, he's a freak. It's really fun to watch.
Speaker 1: He's so competitive and he brings everything to the table.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch him in fields during the
Speaker 1: regular season. Anything else on the offense, No, I think.
Speaker 3: We pretty much covered it right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll keep it right there because we're gonna come back.
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about defense.
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Speaker 2: Do a plot? Okay, talk defense number one. Sauce Gardner
Speaker 2: the immedia today.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that one. I think Sauce looks a
Speaker 3: little bigger, like stronger like. I don't know for a fact,
Speaker 3: but I think that's just the way he looks. I
Speaker 3: also think that look, he said all the right things,
Speaker 3: whether it was contract talk, whether it was play on
Speaker 3: the field. He wants to be more of a leader
Speaker 3: and get more picks in year four. All that makes
Speaker 3: sense to me. And you know, it's interesting hearing what
Speaker 3: I'll call like the perception of Sauce Gardner from the
Speaker 3: outside world to then hearing Aaron Glenn, defensive coordinator Steve Wilkes,
Speaker 3: Michael Carter the second all talk about Sauce thinking like,
Speaker 3: you know, people are saying that that he didn't have
Speaker 3: a good year, because he had a good year in
Speaker 3: the granted it might not have been the All Pro
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two or twenty twenty three version, but when
Speaker 3: you're that good that early, you set the bar so high.
Speaker 3: I think in terms of a sport that gets analyzed
Speaker 3: under the microscope, So of course you're gonna be criticized,
Speaker 3: but not that anyone listening to this as an analytics junkie.
Speaker 3: But PFF put out there that number one, Yeah, number one,
Speaker 3: corner one for number one. So to me, like, I'm
Speaker 3: excited to see what this defense does for him because
Speaker 3: there might be a different element of sauces game that
Speaker 3: we just haven't seen.
Speaker 1: I will say that Sauce Gardner and gave up a
Speaker 1: number of receptions on Thursday during the walkthrough. Nice, Nice, okay,
Speaker 1: And I would just clarify that by saying I am
Speaker 1: being facetious here because as we know, during a walkthrough,
Speaker 1: everybody is not going speed. You're going through looks, you're
Speaker 1: going over plays, you're going over formations.
Speaker 3: And the defense doesn't make a play on the ball.
Speaker 3: It was designed for the offense to just walk through
Speaker 3: the motion, which, by the way, a walk through with
Speaker 3: Aaron Glenn is more like a jog through. It's definitely
Speaker 3: not a walk.
Speaker 2: It's not a walkthrough. But my point there is every
Speaker 2: practice that we were out there and Sauce was out there,
Speaker 2: you didn't give up too much and the ball doesn't
Speaker 2: go his way a lot.
Speaker 3: Well, it's like, isn't it kind of like I'm not
Speaker 3: comparing it.
Speaker 2: Even when Garrett caught one a while back. I don't know,
Speaker 2: it might have been the one.
Speaker 3: On the left side here it is like a short pass.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is short right, Yeah, and he was all
Speaker 1: over him. So it had to be Garrett Wilson making
Speaker 1: a great play just to catch the ball for a
Speaker 1: minimal game.
Speaker 3: I think that Sauce gets penalized for not being targeted. Ye,
Speaker 3: And look, I wasn't here when Revis was here. Obviously,
Speaker 3: two thousand and nine will be unmatched, in my opinion,
Speaker 3: with the holding x amount of receivers under thirty.
Speaker 2: Five yards maybe forever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that. But my thing is, I'm
Speaker 3: not comparing Sauce to Revis at all. But it feels
Speaker 3: like Revs was penalized because people wouldn't throw at him.
Speaker 3: Oh well, Darrell Revis doesn't have the turnover numbers, for example,
Speaker 3: in two thousand and nine that Charles Woodson had, who
Speaker 3: won Defensive Player of the Year that year. Just because
Speaker 3: people don't throw at you doesn't mean that you're not
Speaker 3: a good player. If people don't throw at you. They
Speaker 3: probably respect the hell out of you, and in the moment,
Speaker 3: think that person's not covered or that person is covered,
Speaker 3: excuse me, I'm not gonna throw over there, not like
Speaker 3: not like, oh like, I can't go over there. But
Speaker 3: in the moment, when you're a quarterback going through your progressions,
Speaker 3: if you're looking to the side that Sauce is at
Speaker 3: and he's all over your receiver, you're not gonna throw there.
Speaker 1: And I will say this, this is the perfect coaching
Speaker 1: staff for Sauce Cardner. I've said that over and over again.
Speaker 1: This is what Wilke said this week of Gardner.
Speaker 2: He's very gifted.
Speaker 1: And I told him, sometimes your greatest strength is your
Speaker 1: greatest weakness. He's a guy that sometimes that eighty five
Speaker 1: percent is still better than everybody around him. So his thing,
Speaker 1: and I told him, compete against yourself when you're that great,
Speaker 1: when you're a Sauce Gardner, when you're a Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 2: That's who you're competing against. You're competing against yourself.
Speaker 3: Well you have to at that point also because if
Speaker 3: Steve Wilks is like, look, you're very talented to the
Speaker 3: point where quarterbacks don't challenge you. The way that you
Speaker 3: want to be challenging. Maybe you feel like you're kind
Speaker 3: of going through the motions. Yeah, like that's who you
Speaker 3: have to compete with is yourself. And again not comparing
Speaker 3: the two, I remember Dion Sanders talking about that he
Speaker 3: would try to bait quarterbacks into throwing him the ball
Speaker 3: by pretending he was not in coverage. And I'm not
Speaker 3: saying Sauce Gardner should do that. I don't think the
Speaker 3: coaching staff would teach him to do that, But I
Speaker 3: do think that there's a world in which if so
Speaker 3: boss competes with anybody, including himself, there might be another
Speaker 3: level to him that we haven't seen, and this defense
Speaker 3: might look a little different than what we've seen.
Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn when I asked about his defense, but what
Speaker 1: have you seen from them so far?
Speaker 2: Fast?
Speaker 1: Speed, that's one thing you can't teach. So right now
Speaker 1: we're seeing the speed on the field. The next thing
Speaker 1: is we're gonna see, and I think you wrote about
Speaker 1: this today, is the tackling and then the takeaways. You
Speaker 1: won't see the tackling until we get to late July
Speaker 1: into August. But this team is gonna thump.
Speaker 2: We know that.
Speaker 1: But they're one of the better movie units in the league,
Speaker 1: and you can see that throughout the.
Speaker 3: Spring definitely, And just for for clarification, like, yes, the
Speaker 3: Jets will live tackle in practice Jets on Jets tackling.
Speaker 3: What Aaron Glenn did say though, is that you do
Speaker 3: have to have kind of a quick whistle and it
Speaker 3: would not be every day, but the way to get
Speaker 3: better at tackling is to tech and I get it.
Speaker 3: And training camp is it's gonna be hard, I think
Speaker 3: for the for the players, but I think the players,
Speaker 3: especially listening to them talk to the media. Listening to
Speaker 3: Age kind of shed some light on a conversation he
Speaker 3: had with Quincy Williams. I'd encourage to listen to that
Speaker 3: in the in the press conference from today on Thursday,
Speaker 3: June twelfth. I think that the players are bought in,
Speaker 3: and I mean the the attendance numbers alone indicate buy in.
Speaker 3: In terms of the voluntary phases of the offseason program.
Speaker 1: So Aaron, as you're talking about right now, he said
Speaker 1: to the media today, ninety one percent. Yeah, the first
Speaker 1: three phases, well, I should say the first two phases
Speaker 1: are voluntary, the third phase some is voluntary once you
Speaker 1: get to mandatory mini camp because technically mini camp is
Speaker 1: part of the third phase.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So like the first two and a half phases
Speaker 3: maybe are voluntary, yeah, and the last half is mandatory.
Speaker 3: Gla to your point, said, ninety one percent showed up
Speaker 3: of the voluntary aspect, and the best team that he's
Speaker 3: ever been around from that perspective from participation was eighty percent.
Speaker 3: And so I think that this team is buying in.
Speaker 3: And I think that Glenn, for obviously not ever being
Speaker 3: a head coach in the past, has a detailed plan
Speaker 3: of what he wants to accomplish and how he thinks
Speaker 3: he wants to go about it. And remember, it's really
Speaker 3: funny to think about it. I think in two thousand
Speaker 3: and ten or twelve, when he joined the Jets as
Speaker 3: a scouting.
Speaker 2: Intern twelve and thirteen, it was all part of a.
Speaker 3: Plan to be the head coach of an NFL team.
Speaker 3: So even though he might not have the real world
Speaker 3: experience of being a head coach, this has been a
Speaker 3: part of Aaron Glenn's master plan, kind of co signed
Speaker 3: by Bill Parcells for thirteen years. Right, I mean, that's right,
Speaker 3: that's cool to think about, and he's obviously embracing this fullheartedly.
Speaker 2: Speaking of the plan.
Speaker 1: Let's go up front of level or a couple levels.
Speaker 1: We were talking about the secondary before Jermaine Johnson. We've
Speaker 1: seen him work to decide throughout the spring. Aaron Glenn said,
Speaker 1: it's possible you could start training camp on the pup list,
Speaker 1: but they expect him ready for the regular season opener
Speaker 1: when the Jets host Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers,
Speaker 1: which is still a little bit weird to say it
Speaker 1: is weird. Jermaine looks good, love his attitude all the time,
Speaker 1: chomping at the bit. He said, he feels like the
Speaker 1: organization picking up the fifth year option on him was
Speaker 1: grabbing third side of the couch.
Speaker 2: He said, now it's my turn to lift the couch.
Speaker 3: And he said, I know you mentioned it being weird
Speaker 3: to say Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers. Jermaine said, look,
Speaker 3: you know they might be friends, but between the white lines,
Speaker 3: there are no friends. And I think that he's gonna
Speaker 3: pull back. Let's say on Aaron Rodgers if he has
Speaker 3: the opportunity to sack him.
Speaker 2: Oh no, he might.
Speaker 3: He might try to. You know, he tries to run
Speaker 3: through everybody. Maine is nasty and you know what else
Speaker 3: I liked, So Jermaine Johnson in two thousand, I guess
Speaker 3: it was probably early twenty twenty two, not the season,
Speaker 3: but before he was drafted, goes to the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 3: He started on the Lions coaching staff, and then I
Speaker 3: think he last second or he had the two practices,
Speaker 3: then he left. So he was part of the Lions
Speaker 3: coaching staff where Aaron Glenn was a part of that team,
Speaker 3: and Glenn remembers Johnson because he was studying him and
Speaker 3: had to work with him. Johnson said, I don't really
Speaker 3: remember much of what Aaron Glenn said because I was
Speaker 3: just trying to rip everybody's face off to improve my
Speaker 3: draft stock. And that is all you need to know
Speaker 3: about Jermaine Johnson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the edge position. We talked about Will before.
Speaker 1: We talked about Will throughout the offseason. What's his next
Speaker 1: step because we know that he's been in the weight room.
Speaker 1: He's wants to be that tough edgesetter against the run
Speaker 1: as well as the dynamic pass rusher, which he proved
Speaker 1: to be last year. You got the big guys in
Speaker 1: the middle, we talked about that. I think that Quinnon
Speaker 1: looks really good. He nice interior pass rush one of
Speaker 1: these practices, and you know you're seeing him get in
Speaker 1: that offensive backfield, and we're gonna see that more, I
Speaker 1: think once we get to camp.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to talk about the linebackers quickly speed.
Speaker 1: Surewin had a nice PD down here in the red
Speaker 1: zone when Field's got that first unit down there, he
Speaker 1: was looking in the back I think for Tyler Johnson and.
Speaker 2: Sure what was right there.
Speaker 1: We spoke about Quincy Williams as well. How when he's
Speaker 1: been on the field, he's all over the place. So
Speaker 1: the speed for this defense, I mean, at the heart
Speaker 1: of it is on the inside with those two cats.
Speaker 2: But I like what I saw.
Speaker 1: Keiko Miyano, Yeah, mynah, I should say the rookie linebacker.
Speaker 1: I thought he had his best workout throughout the offseason
Speaker 1: on ones Day.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think so too, And I think we mentioned
Speaker 3: it before in the earlier podcast. He's just he's a big,
Speaker 3: old school linebacker, but he.
Speaker 2: Was moving pretty well in would be sack out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And look, he's also someone that has extensive special
Speaker 3: teams experience, so I would imagine that Chris Banjo is
Speaker 3: going to utilize that to his advantage. Meaning Banjo's advantage
Speaker 3: because if you're a player that has college special teams experience,
Speaker 3: it puts you ahead of the game in terms of
Speaker 3: trying to make a roster by way of special teams
Speaker 3: in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I charged you a a backfield stop.
Speaker 1: And then he also had the would be sack and
Speaker 1: another guy.
Speaker 3: They love Kiko by the way, after that would be sacked,
Speaker 3: they all Celebratah.
Speaker 1: He plays with the kind of passion and fire I
Speaker 1: think that Glenn expects from everybody and he's going to
Speaker 1: get from I'd be remiss if we didn't mention Marcellino
Speaker 1: McCrary ball because I think he's.
Speaker 2: Had it quietly done some very nice things out there.
Speaker 3: I agree he had the force fumble on Mason Taylor.
Speaker 3: Clean punch, extremely clean punch. And Marcellino's another special team stalwarts.
Speaker 3: So if you're looking to make a team, you have
Speaker 3: special teams and for him, you have extensive and successful
Speaker 3: special teams reps. That goes that bodes well for you.
Speaker 3: So you know, I'm interested. I'm excited to see what
Speaker 3: some of these linebackers have once the Pats come on. Also,
Speaker 3: like Jamine Davis, former first round pick. This new regime
Speaker 3: keeps him on board. Like someone like that, I'm curious
Speaker 3: to see what they have in store for him because
Speaker 3: he has the talent of a first round pick, and
Speaker 3: he has speed, he's got good size. To me, the
Speaker 3: depth linebacker, the way that that depth chart shakes out
Speaker 3: is one of the underrated storylines I think of training camp.
Speaker 2: Also safety position.
Speaker 1: We spoke about it last week, is that we know
Speaker 1: Cisco is a guy they're really high on, really rangey,
Speaker 1: and he's big and it's it's really interesting when you
Speaker 1: watch him maybe on the same side as Sauce, because
Speaker 1: that's a monster safety and a monster cornerback at the
Speaker 1: same time.
Speaker 2: And those guys are gonna cover a lot of ground and.
Speaker 1: You're seeing the secondary I think learn each other right,
Speaker 1: because a lot of times you saw maybe it was
Speaker 1: a pairing of Cisco and Ta and maybe other times
Speaker 1: it was Cisco and Isaiah Oliver.
Speaker 2: And Oliver is another guy I think is popped up totally.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you mentioned him because again, last year's corner
Speaker 3: he was safety. He was a little bit of this,
Speaker 3: a little bit of that. He's been predominantly I think
Speaker 3: a safety here with Wilkes and at least so far
Speaker 3: of what we've seen in the couple practices, but every
Speaker 3: practice it feels like we're Oh, Isaiah Oliver made a
Speaker 3: play great PD coming on.
Speaker 2: The play action long pass from it.
Speaker 1: I believe that was Tye Rod to one of the
Speaker 1: rookie receivers.
Speaker 2: Let me check my notes here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, so we were wondering. We were like it
Speaker 3: was far away, were like, is it Jerious Monroe? Is
Speaker 3: it Isaiah Oliver? It was Isaiah Oliver.
Speaker 2: Oliver.
Speaker 3: He's had a very impressive.
Speaker 1: Spricks covering a lot of grounds. So, uh, encouraging signs
Speaker 1: all around. Uh quickly on special teams. Uh, you know
Speaker 1: we're gonna have three competition battles. I mean you would
Speaker 1: think that, hey, x Man Gibson probably flies a little
Speaker 1: bit under the radar. I like the number switch we
Speaker 1: talked about how quickly Looks caught the ball a lot,
Speaker 1: very smooth as a catching return man. He's getting off field.
Speaker 1: I think he's got a lot of confidence. He's beat
Speaker 1: on with some rookies back there. And then the kicking competitions,
Speaker 1: we're gonna see that there's gonna be emphasis and special
Speaker 1: teams throughout camp. This is when the men are going
Speaker 1: to separate themselves from the boys when they get the pants.
Speaker 1: Come on, do you want to talk about a player
Speaker 1: from Florida, A rookie, an undrafted free agent, a Gator
Speaker 1: who is a freak.
Speaker 3: I'm surprised that you're letting me talk about him, considering
Speaker 3: your ties to Florida. But JaMarcus Weston, I'm just want
Speaker 3: to pull up his heightweight here.
Speaker 2: Well, we were just watching him cover some kicks.
Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting because he's listed as a defensive
Speaker 3: end at six two two thirty five.
Speaker 2: He looks about two fifty five.
Speaker 3: He's huge, and you're almost looking at it. When they
Speaker 3: first took the gunner snap, he's lined out, he's lined
Speaker 3: at gunner and you're like, all right, maybe they're just
Speaker 3: the kind of like, you know, jog down the field.
Speaker 3: JaMarcus Weston moves like no. Six to two hundred and
Speaker 3: thirty five pound defensive end should be able to move
Speaker 3: with a full steam. Listen.
Speaker 1: He played five years for the Gators. He didn't get
Speaker 1: a ton of defensive snaps, but vitible. But when you
Speaker 1: watch him takes spectual teams reps and see what kind
Speaker 1: of force. Potentially he could be because you're not hitting
Speaker 1: right now. But that guy is a truck who runs
Speaker 1: like a thoroughbred.
Speaker 3: Right And the biggest question is he runs like a thoroughbred,
Speaker 3: how can he move like shifty wise? Because right now
Speaker 3: you'd imagine he's like a pickup truck that has a
Speaker 3: big engine that can get downfield. But coming up pretty soon,
Speaker 3: we're gonna see does he have the agility required like
Speaker 3: a sports car to get through blocks on special teams
Speaker 3: and make plays? And I'm excited to see that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: What do you got playing in the summer?
Speaker 3: I don't think much, just kind of hanging out and
Speaker 3: trying to golf as much which is possible before our
Speaker 3: schedule gets a little constricted, to say the least.
Speaker 1: You mentioned, so we're gonna come full circle. You were
Speaker 1: talking about Thursday's workout, which was abbreviated.
Speaker 2: I think they got in the field maybe.
Speaker 1: At twelve time and they were off by twelve forty five. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of fun was out there. Aaron Glenn referenced
Speaker 1: the fact that he's a player. He knows when step
Speaker 1: on the gas, when to take his foot off the pedal.
Speaker 2: So today he took the foot off the pedal.
Speaker 1: Any offensive lineman you want to shout out in terms
Speaker 1: of they're catching pro.
Speaker 3: With Yeah, no, no, I don't think so. I mean
Speaker 3: I really wanted to see something crazy.
Speaker 2: They were so for folks at home, I know you
Speaker 2: can't see this, but they were running go.
Speaker 1: Routes in the court and they were actually having attempts
Speaker 1: or pass attempts come at them from quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: I have no one that I want to shout out
Speaker 3: for their hands. But seeing some of these guys move,
Speaker 3: especially like the starting lineman, you really see the movement
Speaker 3: ability where you know armand Memboo just and we know
Speaker 3: about the forty yard dash how fast he is, but
Speaker 3: when he's running down the field or jogging down the field,
Speaker 3: you're like, Okay, that's a big dude who's running very
Speaker 3: fluidly and so, you know, I thought that was cool,
Speaker 3: But no, the not the hands team is definitely not
Speaker 3: on the offensive line. If they want to work on it,
Speaker 3: like you know Detroit and uh Skipper, you know they
Speaker 3: had the extra linement at times. If they want to
Speaker 3: do that, they want to potentially show Aaron Glenn that
Speaker 3: they had the chops to be able to do it.
Speaker 3: Go for it.
Speaker 1: Okay, how about Cola Ao though, first year offensive lineman
Speaker 1: from WHII. Yeah, you didn't see the one hander that
Speaker 1: he had.
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I don't think I realized it
Speaker 3: was one hand.
Speaker 2: It was sixty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the ball's coming at him. He looks it and
Speaker 1: I think he had to turn, but he caught it
Speaker 1: with his left single run Awesome.
Speaker 3: I didn't see that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was kind of a cool moment.
Speaker 3: I couldn't tell if Tipman had the advantage with the
Speaker 3: one glove on, one glove off, or if that was
Speaker 3: a disadvantage because of their linemen gloves or not receiver gloves.
Speaker 1: It was kind of fun fun watching the guys because
Speaker 1: some dudes the ball. Some of the quarterbacks I thought
Speaker 1: were actually treating offensive linemen like receivers, meaning that they
Speaker 1: were leading them. Yeah, if I'm throwing to you and
Speaker 1: you're three fifty, I'm just throwing right to you your spot.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm going to lead you. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: saying where are you? You're three fifty, I'm putting it
Speaker 1: right at your head.
Speaker 3: And if if you're listening to this and not watching this,
Speaker 3: EA was not talking to me. I am not three fifty.
Speaker 2: No you're not. You're not. Do you like the way?
Speaker 2: How you know? On final point here ag ended everything.
Speaker 1: Where he said that, hey, listen, I hate that we're
Speaker 1: breaking up right now, but we got a lot of
Speaker 1: work done.
Speaker 2: And I think these guys know what the expectation is.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I think listening to Age when he says, look,
Speaker 3: I'm a little upset that we're breaking for a month,
Speaker 3: but when these guys comes back, we're hitting the ground,
Speaker 3: guns blazing. I believe them wholeheartedly. And I do like
Speaker 3: his message and about how he wants the team to
Speaker 3: write its own book and they're taking different pages from
Speaker 3: different books to figure out what they want to do
Speaker 3: and how they want to write it. Like Glenn said,
Speaker 3: fasten your seatbelt, let's ride.
Speaker 1: Yep, he said, I think the players understand it exactly
Speaker 1: what we're trying to accomplish, but I do understand there's
Speaker 1: a lot more work to be done. We're ripping pages
Speaker 1: out of some situations that we want to get better at.
Speaker 2: We want to create our own narrative, and we want
Speaker 2: to write our own book. Pen Drop.
Speaker 1: Mike's dropping right now for us, but we'll be back
Speaker 1: next week.