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Speaker 1: All right, mandatory mini camp just wrapped up out there

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Speaker 1: on the field.

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Speaker 2: We got a lot of takeaways to deliver.

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Speaker 1: Plus we'll give you our final extra point in the

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Speaker 1: spring that's coming up. We'll meet anybody in the world,

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Speaker 1: and I think we're gonna win.

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Speaker 2: Next Sunday, it's one.

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Speaker 2: How are.

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Speaker 3: You doing well?

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Speaker 2: How are you good? Man?

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Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like I'm on the treadmill

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Speaker 1: right now. I'm just running.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it definitely feels like it's ah. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if this is a taste of training camp, but

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Speaker 3: it definitely feels like. One the weather was fit the

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Speaker 3: bill of training camp, and two you really get the

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Speaker 3: sentence that this team's gonna get after it pretty good

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Speaker 3: in a month or so.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but we should say here on Thursday that today's

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Speaker 1: practice was a little bit of a lighter.

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Speaker 3: One, Yes, exactly. And you know, I think it was

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Speaker 3: cool that Coach Glenn talked about it where he's like,

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Speaker 3: I kind of know he has a good sense of

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Speaker 3: what strings or which strings to pull, which strings to

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Speaker 3: push and when, because he obviously worked these guys as

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Speaker 3: much as he could, you know, within the parameters of

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Speaker 3: the NFLPA. And Michael Carter the second said like after

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Speaker 3: the light practice today, I don't think the players knew

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Speaker 3: that Coach Glenn was gonna call it early. And then

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, Michael Carter's like, you know what,

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Speaker 3: Like he said to trust him because he's gonna work us,

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Speaker 3: but then he's also gonna make sure that he takes

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Speaker 3: care of you. So I think we saw a glimpse

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Speaker 3: of that today. And you know what I thought was

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Speaker 3: really fun obviously was the offensive lineman going through not

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Speaker 3: receiver drills, but almost like the game day receiver warm

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Speaker 3: ups where you're just kind of jogging down the sideline,

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Speaker 3: and uh, Coach Glenn kind of say, I don't think

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Speaker 3: there's some offensive linemen that have some hands.

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Speaker 1: All right, everybody is here for the Jets content and

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Speaker 1: they want to hear about mini camp, but let's talk

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Speaker 1: about how we started our days.

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Speaker 2: Were you in the gym today?

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 2: Do you have any tells from the gym?

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Speaker 3: No? No, Usually you see some you see some stuff

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Speaker 3: going on where it's like, you know, either a real

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Speaker 3: flops doing pull ups in a bathing suit like that

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. I don't know. That happened a

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Speaker 3: couple days ago, where you know, if you're wearing flip

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Speaker 2: All right, So were you in the gym? I was

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Speaker 2: inspired again this morning?

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Speaker 1: Okay, there was this dude in there, squad three sixty

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Speaker 1: five three times.

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Speaker 3: No problem, really, no problem, life through butter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, is.

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Speaker 1: He and then he moved over the young young dude

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Speaker 1: me that's young yeah, yeah, yeah, And he grabs a

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Speaker 1: pair of hundreds dumbbells Hungarian split squats hundreds he's.

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Speaker 3: Doing a Hungarian split squats, yeah, with one hundred pounds

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 3: What is it is?

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Speaker 2: He just overheard I overheard him talking.

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Speaker 1: A little bit because somebody said you should have played football.

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Speaker 1: He's about two forty, it's probably six six.

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Speaker 3: Can we get like a player cop like physique wise

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Speaker 4: That's like would be like a tight end probably okay,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this, dude, I mean that was impressive. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I've been going to this gym for several years and

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Speaker 3: That's very impressive.

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Speaker 1: When somebody gets up to the squad three sixty five,

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Speaker 3: I think what really gets me is the split squat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It was crazy, And I know people are like, okay,

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Speaker 2: No, this is this is some serious work.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, that's beyond like. So again, I wonder if

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Speaker 3: feel like they they think that's a freaky trait that

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Speaker 3: someone is doing split squats with one hundred pound dumbells.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, someone he's dropping dumb bells.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the place, it's like an earthquake. Yeah, six

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Speaker 3: there's a there's one gym there. There's one gym in

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Speaker 3: and it's a heavyweight and they let go you're doing

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Speaker 2: That's hilarious.

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Speaker 1: And then another time I felt bad for this young

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Speaker 2: That is a big no no for me.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say that sounds like you might have

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Speaker 3: said it because I know that that's your pet beams.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get back to the Jets here.

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Speaker 3: Quick day.

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Speaker 1: Here a lot accomplished here for the Jets throughout the

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Speaker 1: entire offseason, going back to Phase one through now let's

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Speaker 1: start Tuesday, though, what you saw out there on the

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Speaker 2: But one thing that stood out to me was.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn immediately discuss the fact that he likes what

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Speaker 1: he's seeing it from his quarterback justin fields, and he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I was gonna say, I feel like

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Speaker 3: So I'm glad that you mentioned that because the play

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Speaker 3: meaning fields. And I think that that's something not watching

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he's done that a lot. I

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Speaker 3: would imagine that as a young quarterback. I mean we've

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Speaker 3: seen it here with the Jets, where young quarterbacks try

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Speaker 3: live to fight another down. And you know, sometimes simple

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Speaker 3: doesn't necessarily mean it's bad in football, And I think

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Speaker 3: that's kind of what Aaron Glenn was talking about out

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Speaker 3: and you know, there were plenty of plays, though I

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Speaker 3: will say maybe not in that particular practice.

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Speaker 2: We can talk about it as a whole. Yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: I just went back to Tuesday. I just thought it

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Speaker 1: the first thing that came out of Aaron's mouth. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't about this completion of there was downfield strike or

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Speaker 2: His decision making.

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Speaker 1: And that's the one thing I want to point out

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Speaker 1: here is that Fields his decision making if you look

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Speaker 1: And last year with Pittsburgh he appeared in ten games,

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Speaker 1: he won interception and only two turnovers.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah. And I think also it's important to note

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Speaker 3: in terms of these practices that it was a little

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Speaker 3: bit of a different format to OTAs Obviously the rules

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Speaker 3: in OTA's there was the team period. There was a

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Speaker 3: seven on seven period Tuesdays and Wednesday's practice before Thursday's

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Speaker 3: light lighter session was one long move the ball period,

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Speaker 3: different situations kind of sprinkled here throughout, but it was

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Speaker 3: you know, we started this yard line. You have opportunities

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Speaker 3: for a touchdown. And on that day Tuesday, when Aaron

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Speaker 3: Glenn talked about how he was impressed with fields decision making,

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Speaker 3: he led two field goal drives. And you know that.

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Speaker 3: I don't believe there were any touchdown drives that day,

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Speaker 3: but it was still to your point, even though there's

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Speaker 3: no pads, you can only take so much from these practices.

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Speaker 3: It's good to see someone seemingly believe that his quarterback

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Speaker 3: is making progression from even last year, which was a

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Speaker 1: You can't talk Field without talking Garrett Wilson. I will

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Speaker 1: say this before we go back the G five. The

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Speaker 1: most outstanding player for me throughout the spring without it

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Speaker 1: out was Wilson.

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Speaker 2: He is incredible.

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Speaker 1: Okay, every day watching him and we go back to Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: and again we're not going to do a play by

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Speaker 1: play here, We're not doing stats, but I believe on

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Speaker 1: the first seven offensive plays he touched the ball either

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Speaker 3: Yes, we wrote in the practice report. Field started the

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Speaker 3: first eleven play drive with a pass to wide receiver

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Speaker 3: Garrett Wilson, who was targeted four times in the first

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Speaker 3: seven plays.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but I did say touches because I think

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Speaker 1: he actually had five touches.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, You're right.

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Speaker 1: And look, so we can't tell everybody where everybody's lining

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Speaker 3: I mean, but again, I do think that goes to

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Speaker 3: show that Aaron Glenn said that they're going to try

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Speaker 3: to get the ball to Garret Wilson as much as possible. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: Tanner Engstrand isn't like opening up the playbook in June.

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Speaker 3: But you get this, You see motion and you see

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Speaker 3: some creative aspects that I think Jets fans should be

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Speaker 3: cool is that he's obviously a spectacular player, and it

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Speaker 3: seems every year he just seems to be a little

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Speaker 3: more comfortable, a little more smooth, a little more efficient,

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Speaker 3: and he just moves a little differently than everybody else.

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Speaker 1: The first time Field's got the ball on Wednesday, a

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Speaker 1: move the ball period. He dials up the long ball, spectacular,

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Speaker 1: spectacular touch to Wilson, who catches it, who finds it

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Speaker 2: Air and catches it inside the five yard line.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a great play, I mean, and you know,

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Speaker 3: it was one of those plays where it's good coverage

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Speaker 3: a lot of pressure, the potential you know, getting hit,

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Speaker 3: really what we've noticed in mini camp, situational football will

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Speaker 1: Okay, just getting back to fields real quick. Yes, we

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But so we're gonna get to the defense here in

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Speaker 1: There's this calm, there's this confidence about him.

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Speaker 2: He's growing.

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Speaker 1: He's twenty six years old, new system, but you really

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm glad you mentioned that because there was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, these are outstanding experiences for.

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Speaker 2: Him out totally right now. And then the competition off front.

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Speaker 1: You had a guy Myers into the equation in him

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Speaker 2: I would be remissed if we didn't talk about Breese

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Speaker 3: Your thoughts, Yeah, I think pres All seems to I mean,

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Speaker 3: but look he's saying all the right things. But I

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Speaker 1: Knows right exactly so if he says it when he

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Speaker 3: Back, so so to me. Yeah, I think that again

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Speaker 3: to tell what twenty twenty five Breese Hall, twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: Yo, he'd be a monster in the weight room.

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Speaker 3: I mean, but I'd like to see him just pull

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Speaker 1: I think he's a guy. You just hey, you need

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Speaker 2: I want to get a down year for Breese Hall.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, eight hundred and seventy six yards on the ground.

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Speaker 2: No pants are out the spring.

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Speaker 1: But AG's right when he says that, I think I

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Speaker 2: He's got a creative mind. Anybody who watched Detroit.

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Speaker 2: But he's gonna put his own spin on things as well.

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Speaker 3: this is our offense, We're gonna spoonfeed it to you.

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Speaker 3: It's what is the best offense we can create with

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Speaker 3: the personnel that we have. And that's true for every

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Speaker 3: year according to Aaron Glenn.

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Speaker 2: Am I wrong though, for what I said? My assessment

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Speaker 2: on Garrett Wilson.

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Speaker 3: No, No, he's a freak. It's really fun to watch.

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Speaker 1: He's so competitive and he brings everything to the table.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch him in fields during the

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Speaker 1: regular season. Anything else on the offense, No, I think.

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Speaker 3: We pretty much covered it right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll keep it right there because we're gonna come back.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about defense.

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Speaker 2: Do a plot? Okay, talk defense number one. Sauce Gardner

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Speaker 2: the immedia today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that one. I think Sauce looks a

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Speaker 3: little bigger, like stronger like. I don't know for a fact,

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Speaker 3: but I think that's just the way he looks. I

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Speaker 3: also think that look, he said all the right things,

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Speaker 3: whether it was contract talk, whether it was play on

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Speaker 3: the field. He wants to be more of a leader

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Speaker 3: and get more picks in year four. All that makes

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Speaker 3: sense to me. And you know, it's interesting hearing what

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Speaker 3: I'll call like the perception of Sauce Gardner from the

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Speaker 3: outside world to then hearing Aaron Glenn, defensive coordinator Steve Wilkes,

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Speaker 3: Michael Carter the second all talk about Sauce thinking like,

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Speaker 3: you know, people are saying that that he didn't have

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Speaker 3: a good year, because he had a good year in

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Speaker 3: the granted it might not have been the All Pro

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty two or twenty twenty three version, but when

478
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Speaker 3: you're that good that early, you set the bar so high.

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Speaker 3: I think in terms of a sport that gets analyzed

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Speaker 3: under the microscope, So of course you're gonna be criticized,

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Speaker 3: but not that anyone listening to this as an analytics junkie.

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Speaker 3: But PFF put out there that number one, Yeah, number one,

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Speaker 3: corner one for number one. So to me, like, I'm

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Speaker 3: excited to see what this defense does for him because

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Speaker 3: there might be a different element of sauces game that

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Speaker 3: we just haven't seen.

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Speaker 1: I will say that Sauce Gardner and gave up a

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Speaker 1: number of receptions on Thursday during the walkthrough. Nice, Nice, okay,

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Speaker 1: And I would just clarify that by saying I am

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Speaker 1: being facetious here because as we know, during a walkthrough,

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Speaker 1: everybody is not going speed. You're going through looks, you're

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Speaker 1: going over plays, you're going over formations.

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Speaker 3: And the defense doesn't make a play on the ball.

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Speaker 3: It was designed for the offense to just walk through

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Speaker 3: the motion, which, by the way, a walk through with

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Speaker 3: Aaron Glenn is more like a jog through. It's definitely

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Speaker 3: not a walk.

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Speaker 2: It's not a walkthrough. But my point there is every

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Speaker 2: practice that we were out there and Sauce was out there,

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Speaker 2: you didn't give up too much and the ball doesn't

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Speaker 2: go his way a lot.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's like, isn't it kind of like I'm not

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Speaker 3: comparing it.

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Speaker 2: Even when Garrett caught one a while back. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: it might have been the one.

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Speaker 3: On the left side here it is like a short pass.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is short right, Yeah, and he was all

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Speaker 1: over him. So it had to be Garrett Wilson making

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Speaker 1: a great play just to catch the ball for a

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Speaker 1: minimal game.

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Speaker 3: I think that Sauce gets penalized for not being targeted. Ye,

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Speaker 3: And look, I wasn't here when Revis was here. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: two thousand and nine will be unmatched, in my opinion,

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Speaker 3: with the holding x amount of receivers under thirty.

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Speaker 2: Five yards maybe forever.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that. But my thing is, I'm

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Speaker 3: not comparing Sauce to Revis at all. But it feels

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Speaker 3: like Revs was penalized because people wouldn't throw at him.

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Speaker 3: Oh well, Darrell Revis doesn't have the turnover numbers, for example,

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Speaker 3: in two thousand and nine that Charles Woodson had, who

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Speaker 3: won Defensive Player of the Year that year. Just because

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Speaker 3: people don't throw at you doesn't mean that you're not

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Speaker 3: a good player. If people don't throw at you. They

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Speaker 3: probably respect the hell out of you, and in the moment,

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Speaker 3: think that person's not covered or that person is covered,

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Speaker 3: excuse me, I'm not gonna throw over there, not like

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Speaker 3: not like, oh like, I can't go over there. But

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Speaker 3: in the moment, when you're a quarterback going through your progressions,

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Speaker 3: if you're looking to the side that Sauce is at

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Speaker 3: and he's all over your receiver, you're not gonna throw there.

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Speaker 1: And I will say this, this is the perfect coaching

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Speaker 1: staff for Sauce Cardner. I've said that over and over again.

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Speaker 1: This is what Wilke said this week of Gardner.

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Speaker 2: He's very gifted.

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Speaker 1: And I told him, sometimes your greatest strength is your

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Speaker 1: greatest weakness. He's a guy that sometimes that eighty five

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Speaker 1: percent is still better than everybody around him. So his thing,

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Speaker 1: and I told him, compete against yourself when you're that great,

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Speaker 1: when you're a Sauce Gardner, when you're a Garrett Wilson.

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Speaker 2: That's who you're competing against. You're competing against yourself.

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Speaker 3: Well you have to at that point also because if

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Speaker 3: Steve Wilks is like, look, you're very talented to the

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Speaker 3: point where quarterbacks don't challenge you. The way that you

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Speaker 3: want to be challenging. Maybe you feel like you're kind

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Speaker 3: of going through the motions. Yeah, like that's who you

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Speaker 3: have to compete with is yourself. And again not comparing

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Speaker 3: the two, I remember Dion Sanders talking about that he

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Speaker 3: would try to bait quarterbacks into throwing him the ball

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Speaker 3: by pretending he was not in coverage. And I'm not

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Speaker 3: saying Sauce Gardner should do that. I don't think the

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Speaker 3: coaching staff would teach him to do that, But I

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Speaker 3: do think that there's a world in which if so

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Speaker 3: boss competes with anybody, including himself, there might be another

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Speaker 3: level to him that we haven't seen, and this defense

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Speaker 3: might look a little different than what we've seen.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn when I asked about his defense, but what

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Speaker 1: have you seen from them so far?

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Speaker 2: Fast?

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Speaker 1: Speed, that's one thing you can't teach. So right now

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Speaker 1: we're seeing the speed on the field. The next thing

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Speaker 1: is we're gonna see, and I think you wrote about

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Speaker 1: this today, is the tackling and then the takeaways. You

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Speaker 1: won't see the tackling until we get to late July

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Speaker 1: into August. But this team is gonna thump.

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Speaker 2: We know that.

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Speaker 1: But they're one of the better movie units in the league,

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Speaker 1: and you can see that throughout the.

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Speaker 3: Spring definitely, And just for for clarification, like, yes, the

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Speaker 3: Jets will live tackle in practice Jets on Jets tackling.

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Speaker 3: What Aaron Glenn did say though, is that you do

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Speaker 3: have to have kind of a quick whistle and it

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Speaker 3: would not be every day, but the way to get

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Speaker 3: better at tackling is to tech and I get it.

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Speaker 3: And training camp is it's gonna be hard, I think

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Speaker 3: for the for the players, but I think the players,

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Speaker 3: especially listening to them talk to the media. Listening to

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Speaker 3: Age kind of shed some light on a conversation he

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Speaker 3: had with Quincy Williams. I'd encourage to listen to that

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Speaker 3: in the in the press conference from today on Thursday,

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Speaker 3: June twelfth. I think that the players are bought in,

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Speaker 3: and I mean the the attendance numbers alone indicate buy in.

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Speaker 3: In terms of the voluntary phases of the offseason program.

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Speaker 1: So Aaron, as you're talking about right now, he said

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Speaker 1: to the media today, ninety one percent. Yeah, the first

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Speaker 1: three phases, well, I should say the first two phases

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Speaker 1: are voluntary, the third phase some is voluntary once you

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Speaker 1: get to mandatory mini camp because technically mini camp is

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Speaker 1: part of the third phase.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So like the first two and a half phases

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Speaker 3: maybe are voluntary, yeah, and the last half is mandatory.

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Speaker 3: Gla to your point, said, ninety one percent showed up

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Speaker 3: of the voluntary aspect, and the best team that he's

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Speaker 3: ever been around from that perspective from participation was eighty percent.

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Speaker 3: And so I think that this team is buying in.

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Speaker 3: And I think that Glenn, for obviously not ever being

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Speaker 3: a head coach in the past, has a detailed plan

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Speaker 3: of what he wants to accomplish and how he thinks

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Speaker 3: he wants to go about it. And remember, it's really

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Speaker 3: funny to think about it. I think in two thousand

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Speaker 3: and ten or twelve, when he joined the Jets as

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Speaker 3: a scouting.

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Speaker 2: Intern twelve and thirteen, it was all part of a.

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Speaker 3: Plan to be the head coach of an NFL team.

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Speaker 3: So even though he might not have the real world

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Speaker 3: experience of being a head coach, this has been a

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Speaker 3: part of Aaron Glenn's master plan, kind of co signed

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Speaker 3: by Bill Parcells for thirteen years. Right, I mean, that's right,

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Speaker 3: that's cool to think about, and he's obviously embracing this fullheartedly.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of the plan.

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Speaker 1: Let's go up front of level or a couple levels.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about the secondary before Jermaine Johnson. We've

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Speaker 1: seen him work to decide throughout the spring. Aaron Glenn said,

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Speaker 1: it's possible you could start training camp on the pup list,

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Speaker 1: but they expect him ready for the regular season opener

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Speaker 1: when the Jets host Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers,

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Speaker 1: which is still a little bit weird to say it

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Speaker 1: is weird. Jermaine looks good, love his attitude all the time,

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Speaker 1: chomping at the bit. He said, he feels like the

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Speaker 1: organization picking up the fifth year option on him was

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Speaker 1: grabbing third side of the couch.

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Speaker 2: He said, now it's my turn to lift the couch.

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Speaker 3: And he said, I know you mentioned it being weird

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Speaker 3: to say Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers. Jermaine said, look,

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Speaker 3: you know they might be friends, but between the white lines,

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Speaker 3: there are no friends. And I think that he's gonna

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Speaker 3: pull back. Let's say on Aaron Rodgers if he has

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Speaker 3: the opportunity to sack him.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, he might.

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Speaker 3: He might try to. You know, he tries to run

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Speaker 3: through everybody. Maine is nasty and you know what else

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Speaker 3: I liked, So Jermaine Johnson in two thousand, I guess

632
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Speaker 3: it was probably early twenty twenty two, not the season,

633
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Speaker 3: but before he was drafted, goes to the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 3: He started on the Lions coaching staff, and then I

635
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Speaker 3: think he last second or he had the two practices,

636
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Speaker 3: then he left. So he was part of the Lions

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Speaker 3: coaching staff where Aaron Glenn was a part of that team,

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Speaker 3: and Glenn remembers Johnson because he was studying him and

639
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Speaker 3: had to work with him. Johnson said, I don't really

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Speaker 3: remember much of what Aaron Glenn said because I was

641
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Speaker 3: just trying to rip everybody's face off to improve my

642
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Speaker 3: draft stock. And that is all you need to know

643
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 3: about Jermaine Johnson.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So the edge position. We talked about Will before.

645
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Speaker 1: We talked about Will throughout the offseason. What's his next

646
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Speaker 1: step because we know that he's been in the weight room.

647
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Speaker 1: He's wants to be that tough edgesetter against the run

648
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Speaker 1: as well as the dynamic pass rusher, which he proved

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Speaker 1: to be last year. You got the big guys in

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Speaker 1: the middle, we talked about that. I think that Quinnon

651
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: looks really good. He nice interior pass rush one of

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Speaker 1: these practices, and you know you're seeing him get in

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Speaker 1: that offensive backfield, and we're gonna see that more, I

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Speaker 1: think once we get to camp.

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to talk about the linebackers quickly speed.

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Speaker 1: Surewin had a nice PD down here in the red

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Speaker 1: zone when Field's got that first unit down there, he

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Speaker 1: was looking in the back I think for Tyler Johnson and.

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Speaker 2: Sure what was right there.

660
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: We spoke about Quincy Williams as well. How when he's

661
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: been on the field, he's all over the place. So

662
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: the speed for this defense, I mean, at the heart

663
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,479
Speaker 1: of it is on the inside with those two cats.

664
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 2: But I like what I saw.

665
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: Keiko Miyano, Yeah, mynah, I should say the rookie linebacker.

666
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: I thought he had his best workout throughout the offseason

667
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: on ones Day.

668
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think so too, And I think we mentioned

669
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 3: it before in the earlier podcast. He's just he's a big,

670
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 3: old school linebacker, but he.

671
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 2: Was moving pretty well in would be sack out there.

672
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. And look, he's also someone that has extensive special

673
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 3: teams experience, so I would imagine that Chris Banjo is

674
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 3: going to utilize that to his advantage. Meaning Banjo's advantage

675
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 3: because if you're a player that has college special teams experience,

676
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 3: it puts you ahead of the game in terms of

677
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 3: trying to make a roster by way of special teams

678
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 3: in the NFL.

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00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I charged you a a backfield stop.

680
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: And then he also had the would be sack and

681
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: another guy.

682
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 3: They love Kiko by the way, after that would be sacked,

683
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 3: they all Celebratah.

684
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: He plays with the kind of passion and fire I

685
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: think that Glenn expects from everybody and he's going to

686
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: get from I'd be remiss if we didn't mention Marcellino

687
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: McCrary ball because I think he's.

688
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 2: Had it quietly done some very nice things out there.

689
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 3: I agree he had the force fumble on Mason Taylor.

690
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 3: Clean punch, extremely clean punch. And Marcellino's another special team stalwarts.

691
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 3: So if you're looking to make a team, you have

692
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 3: special teams and for him, you have extensive and successful

693
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 3: special teams reps. That goes that bodes well for you.

694
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 3: So you know, I'm interested. I'm excited to see what

695
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 3: some of these linebackers have once the Pats come on. Also,

696
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 3: like Jamine Davis, former first round pick. This new regime

697
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 3: keeps him on board. Like someone like that, I'm curious

698
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 3: to see what they have in store for him because

699
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 3: he has the talent of a first round pick, and

700
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 3: he has speed, he's got good size. To me, the

701
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 3: depth linebacker, the way that that depth chart shakes out

702
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 3: is one of the underrated storylines I think of training camp.

703
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: Also safety position.

704
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: We spoke about it last week, is that we know

705
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: Cisco is a guy they're really high on, really rangey,

706
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: and he's big and it's it's really interesting when you

707
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 1: watch him maybe on the same side as Sauce, because

708
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: that's a monster safety and a monster cornerback at the

709
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: same time.

710
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 2: And those guys are gonna cover a lot of ground and.

711
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 1: You're seeing the secondary I think learn each other right,

712
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: because a lot of times you saw maybe it was

713
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 1: a pairing of Cisco and Ta and maybe other times

714
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: it was Cisco and Isaiah Oliver.

715
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 2: And Oliver is another guy I think is popped up totally.

716
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 3: I'm glad you mentioned him because again, last year's corner

717
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 3: he was safety. He was a little bit of this,

718
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 3: a little bit of that. He's been predominantly I think

719
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 3: a safety here with Wilkes and at least so far

720
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 3: of what we've seen in the couple practices, but every

721
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 3: practice it feels like we're Oh, Isaiah Oliver made a

722
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 3: play great PD coming on.

723
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 2: The play action long pass from it.

724
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: I believe that was Tye Rod to one of the

725
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: rookie receivers.

726
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 2: Let me check my notes here.

727
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, so we were wondering. We were like it

728
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 3: was far away, were like, is it Jerious Monroe? Is

729
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 3: it Isaiah Oliver? It was Isaiah Oliver.

730
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 2: Oliver.

731
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 3: He's had a very impressive.

732
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 1: Spricks covering a lot of grounds. So, uh, encouraging signs

733
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: all around. Uh quickly on special teams. Uh, you know

734
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna have three competition battles. I mean you would

735
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: think that, hey, x Man Gibson probably flies a little

736
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: bit under the radar. I like the number switch we

737
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,479
Speaker 1: talked about how quickly Looks caught the ball a lot,

738
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: very smooth as a catching return man. He's getting off field.

739
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: I think he's got a lot of confidence. He's beat

740
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: on with some rookies back there. And then the kicking competitions,

741
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna see that there's gonna be emphasis and special

742
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: teams throughout camp. This is when the men are going

743
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: to separate themselves from the boys when they get the pants.

744
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 1: Come on, do you want to talk about a player

745
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: from Florida, A rookie, an undrafted free agent, a Gator

746
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: who is a freak.

747
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 3: I'm surprised that you're letting me talk about him, considering

748
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 3: your ties to Florida. But JaMarcus Weston, I'm just want

749
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 3: to pull up his heightweight here.

750
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 2: Well, we were just watching him cover some kicks.

751
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting because he's listed as a defensive

752
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 3: end at six two two thirty five.

753
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 2: He looks about two fifty five.

754
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 3: He's huge, and you're almost looking at it. When they

755
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 3: first took the gunner snap, he's lined out, he's lined

756
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 3: at gunner and you're like, all right, maybe they're just

757
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 3: the kind of like, you know, jog down the field.

758
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 3: JaMarcus Weston moves like no. Six to two hundred and

759
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 3: thirty five pound defensive end should be able to move

760
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 3: with a full steam. Listen.

761
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 1: He played five years for the Gators. He didn't get

762
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: a ton of defensive snaps, but vitible. But when you

763
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 1: watch him takes spectual teams reps and see what kind

764
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: of force. Potentially he could be because you're not hitting

765
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: right now. But that guy is a truck who runs

766
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 1: like a thoroughbred.

767
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 3: Right And the biggest question is he runs like a thoroughbred,

768
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,479
Speaker 3: how can he move like shifty wise? Because right now

769
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 3: you'd imagine he's like a pickup truck that has a

770
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,959
Speaker 3: big engine that can get downfield. But coming up pretty soon,

771
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 3: we're gonna see does he have the agility required like

772
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,240
Speaker 3: a sports car to get through blocks on special teams

773
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 3: and make plays? And I'm excited to see that.

774
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 2: All right, let's.

775
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781
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Speaker 2: man springs over.

782
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

783
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 2: What do you got playing in the summer?

784
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 3: I don't think much, just kind of hanging out and

785
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 3: trying to golf as much which is possible before our

786
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 3: schedule gets a little constricted, to say the least.

787
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: You mentioned, so we're gonna come full circle. You were

788
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 1: talking about Thursday's workout, which was abbreviated.

789
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 2: I think they got in the field maybe.

790
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: At twelve time and they were off by twelve forty five. Yeah,

791
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: a lot of fun was out there. Aaron Glenn referenced

792
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: the fact that he's a player. He knows when step

793
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: on the gas, when to take his foot off the pedal.

794
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 2: So today he took the foot off the pedal.

795
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: Any offensive lineman you want to shout out in terms

796
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: of they're catching pro.

797
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 3: With Yeah, no, no, I don't think so. I mean

798
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 3: I really wanted to see something crazy.

799
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 2: They were so for folks at home, I know you

800
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 2: can't see this, but they were running go.

801
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 1: Routes in the court and they were actually having attempts

802
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: or pass attempts come at them from quarterbacks.

803
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 3: I have no one that I want to shout out

804
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 3: for their hands. But seeing some of these guys move,

805
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 3: especially like the starting lineman, you really see the movement

806
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 3: ability where you know armand Memboo just and we know

807
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 3: about the forty yard dash how fast he is, but

808
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 3: when he's running down the field or jogging down the field,

809
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 3: you're like, Okay, that's a big dude who's running very

810
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 3: fluidly and so, you know, I thought that was cool,

811
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 3: But no, the not the hands team is definitely not

812
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 3: on the offensive line. If they want to work on it,

813
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 3: like you know Detroit and uh Skipper, you know they

814
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 3: had the extra linement at times. If they want to

815
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 3: do that, they want to potentially show Aaron Glenn that

816
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 3: they had the chops to be able to do it.

817
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 3: Go for it.

818
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: Okay, how about Cola Ao though, first year offensive lineman

819
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: from WHII. Yeah, you didn't see the one hander that

820
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: he had.

821
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I don't think I realized it

822
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 3: was one hand.

823
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: It was sixty.

824
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:49,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, the ball's coming at him. He looks it and

825
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: I think he had to turn, but he caught it

826
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: with his left single run Awesome.

827
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 3: I didn't see that.

828
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was kind of a cool moment.

829
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 3: I couldn't tell if Tipman had the advantage with the

830
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 3: one glove on, one glove off, or if that was

831
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 3: a disadvantage because of their linemen gloves or not receiver gloves.

832
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: It was kind of fun fun watching the guys because

833
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: some dudes the ball. Some of the quarterbacks I thought

834
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: were actually treating offensive linemen like receivers, meaning that they

835
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: were leading them. Yeah, if I'm throwing to you and

836
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 1: you're three fifty, I'm just throwing right to you your spot.

837
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm going to lead you. Yeah, I'm

838
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: saying where are you? You're three fifty, I'm putting it

839
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: right at your head.

840
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 3: And if if you're listening to this and not watching this,

841
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,720
Speaker 3: EA was not talking to me. I am not three fifty.

842
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 2: No you're not. You're not. Do you like the way?

843
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 2: How you know? On final point here ag ended everything.

844
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: Where he said that, hey, listen, I hate that we're

845
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: breaking up right now, but we got a lot of

846
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 1: work done.

847
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 2: And I think these guys know what the expectation is.

848
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I think listening to Age when he says, look,

849
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 3: I'm a little upset that we're breaking for a month,

850
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 3: but when these guys comes back, we're hitting the ground,

851
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 3: guns blazing. I believe them wholeheartedly. And I do like

852
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 3: his message and about how he wants the team to

853
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 3: write its own book and they're taking different pages from

854
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 3: different books to figure out what they want to do

855
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 3: and how they want to write it. Like Glenn said,

856
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 3: fasten your seatbelt, let's ride.

857
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 1: Yep, he said, I think the players understand it exactly

858
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: what we're trying to accomplish, but I do understand there's

859
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 1: a lot more work to be done. We're ripping pages

860
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: out of some situations that we want to get better at.

861
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 2: We want to create our own narrative, and we want

862
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 2: to write our own book. Pen Drop.

863
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: Mike's dropping right now for us, but we'll be back

864
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: next week.