Speaker 1: From Los Angeles, pH PAN.
Speaker 2: And one and only Pez Kilt.
Speaker 1: Why, Hello, and welcome to the PHP. My name would
Speaker 1: be Chris Booker. That's Fores Hilton. How are you, sir?
Speaker 2: I'm good, But I'm just looking at the topics that
Speaker 2: we're going to discuss today and people that I love, well,
Speaker 2: I don't love Blake Lively, but people that I love.
Speaker 3: That are getting a lot of negative attention. This week.
Speaker 3: We're gonna be talking Katie.
Speaker 2: Perry, a lot going on there, also Jojo Siwa even
Speaker 2: more going on there. Plus, like I mentioned, the latest
Speaker 2: dramas plural with Blake Lively, Gigi Hadid coming in with
Speaker 2: a with a surprise and something very positive though, and
Speaker 2: we will even be talking a no more than a
Speaker 2: couple I think possibly three sports stories.
Speaker 1: I was wondering if you were going to bring up
Speaker 1: the whole.
Speaker 2: No, no, I'm just wondering, not much any names, why
Speaker 2: because it's a tease, and I didn't say what sports story.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about? Well, everyone knows, No, not everybody knows.
Speaker 1: I think everybody in the world has the Internet and
Speaker 1: noticed that one person dominated the entire Internet this weekend.
Speaker 2: I said multiple sports stories. I know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: I can guess the second one.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, well we'll get to it.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to talk about it. I was the
Speaker 1: thinking of I was like, I wonder if Perez is
Speaker 1: gonna because you are like on top of all pop
Speaker 1: culture and there were some very big sports pop culture
Speaker 1: things this weekend. But I'm glad to see we're talking
Speaker 1: about it. I'm prepped and ready.
Speaker 3: Yeah, multiple ones, I said, Okay, how am I? I'm good.
Speaker 2: I went to see the ballet this weekend. I took
Speaker 2: my son to a food festival. We got haircuts, I spoke,
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Actually I don't get nervous speaking ever,
Speaker 2: but I was nervous this weekend because I was asked.
Speaker 2: I was invited to speak at the suicide Prevention Walk
Speaker 2: and I'm like, why are you asking me to talk
Speaker 2: at the suicide Prevention Walk? And I'm like, I can't.
Speaker 2: I feel like I can't say no to that. I mean,
Speaker 2: why would I say no to that? But I'm like,
Speaker 2: do I make sense there? Like?
Speaker 3: What will people think of me?
Speaker 1: What's your point of view? Like, what's your tie into
Speaker 1: that exactly? And what do you say?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: The woman who invited me just said I just really
Speaker 2: want a celebrity to go there, and I'm like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: I'll be there. And then I was like, you know
Speaker 2: what I said. I was just I was like, let
Speaker 2: me just be honest with everybody.
Speaker 3: I was like, you know what.
Speaker 2: I don't get nervous usually, but I was so nervous
Speaker 2: preparing for today, and like, what am I going to say?
Speaker 2: What am I not going to say? So I thought,
Speaker 2: you know what, let me just focus today on being
Speaker 2: a cheerleader for the organizers of this event, which is
Speaker 2: a very important thing, and to celebrate the work that
Speaker 2: they've put into this, and to also celebrate you all
Speaker 2: because people are busy.
Speaker 3: You know, you're busy. I'm busy. We're all busy.
Speaker 2: But this is very important and an opportunity for connecting
Speaker 2: and community and healing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well done.
Speaker 2: So anyways, busier than I would have liked weekend, But
Speaker 2: a good weekend and I'm grateful to be here and alive.
Speaker 3: How was your weekend?
Speaker 1: Very good? What did I do? I went to David Busters.
Speaker 1: That's what I did this weekend.
Speaker 3: Fun.
Speaker 1: That was my Saturday. I cooked yesterday and made some birds.
Speaker 1: That's kind of my weekend. Nothing crazy, watched a lot
Speaker 1: of sports. I was obsessed with the NFL Draft. I
Speaker 1: was really in on that this weekend. But uh yeah,
Speaker 1: fun weekend.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's start off with some somber things
Speaker 2: and then we'll work our way towards more selations, but
Speaker 2: briefly making a lot of news in the gay community.
Speaker 2: And you know, I think I've said this before, and
Speaker 2: you know, this is why I don't give a fuck
Speaker 2: like I'll I know that most of our audience is women,
Speaker 2: and I love women, but I missed the days of
Speaker 2: going to a drag show and not being eighty five
Speaker 2: percent women. Women love drag and that's okay, we welcome you.
Speaker 2: But I just miss I want safe spaces. I don't
Speaker 2: want like all the bachelorette parties and shit, it's like
Speaker 2: there should be like drag shows just for those audiences.
Speaker 2: I feel like, I don't know, but making a lot
Speaker 2: of news. This drag race alum Jiggly Galliente passed away.
Speaker 3: At forty four years old.
Speaker 2: She had an infection recently that just a few days
Speaker 2: ago resulted in her losing a leg, and sadly, it
Speaker 2: seems like things quickly took a turn for the worst
Speaker 2: and she passed away, so positive vibes to all of
Speaker 2: her loved ones and her fans. Also, the whole Gene
Speaker 2: Hackman of it all continues to blow my mind. Really,
Speaker 2: every time I thought that story is dead, it resurrects
Speaker 2: like Jesus, and there's more to it. Over the weekend,
Speaker 2: authorities in Santa Fe released a final autopsy for Gene
Speaker 2: Hackman that revealed a lot more information. But I would
Speaker 2: say the most surprising revelation for me, if I'm if
Speaker 2: I read it correctly, is that Gene, and this makes sense,
Speaker 2: Gene Hackman died of starvation. How tragic. Yeah, he died
Speaker 2: of starvation. The acetone. I'm not a doctor, but the
Speaker 2: acetone levels in his body were much higher than normal
Speaker 2: and actone. Yes, it is a solvent. That people used
Speaker 2: it like you to take off nail polish and shit
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: Your body makes it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, your body also makes it, especially if you're
Speaker 2: going through prolonged periods of fasting or starvation. The guy
Speaker 2: had advanced Alzheimer's, which was confirmed in the in the autopsy,
Speaker 2: and his wife died a week before him.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. It is also sad. It is also
Speaker 3: sad oh crazy.
Speaker 2: Also, I don't want us to get political, but every
Speaker 2: once in a while, if there is something that I
Speaker 2: deem important that we need to talk about. Let's go
Speaker 2: that one judge in Wisconsin who was arrested for helping
Speaker 2: an undocumented immigrant. I'm not approving of anything that the
Speaker 2: immigrant did or didn't do. All I'm saying is it's
Speaker 2: fucking illegal to just arrest that job.
Speaker 3: That's just that's not how it works.
Speaker 1: They don't care, and people do not care. People signed
Speaker 1: up for this.
Speaker 2: But if you think, if you're the president or the
Speaker 2: attorney general, you think the judge did something illegal, you
Speaker 2: handle it in legal ways.
Speaker 3: It's so grave.
Speaker 1: There's crazier things going on, and there's more craziness coming.
Speaker 1: I know people voted for this.
Speaker 3: We'll see what happens there.
Speaker 1: I've read the approval numbers this morning. I mean they
Speaker 1: are the lowest that we've seen in modern times for
Speaker 1: a preas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I read that, but I don't know if I
Speaker 3: believe in polls.
Speaker 1: I believe in where the economy is and where he
Speaker 1: said it was going to be. And no one's approving
Speaker 1: of this, and you know, he's the businessman and he's
Speaker 1: going to fix the economy. Is it going in the
Speaker 1: right direction.
Speaker 3: No, he doesn't give a shit.
Speaker 1: He doesn't care. He never cared in the first place.
Speaker 1: Everybody's been screaming that from the mouth totops. This is
Speaker 1: a very fixable thing. Tax the rich, it's all you
Speaker 1: had to do. They'll never do that, though. Corporations run
Speaker 1: this country.
Speaker 2: And they've already started to demonize Alexandria Ocassio Corte.
Speaker 3: Course everybody.
Speaker 2: I used to think that way too, but she's fucking
Speaker 2: really grown on me over the last few years.
Speaker 1: I like her, but she's not the answer. She's part
Speaker 1: of the answer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think she's the answer either.
Speaker 2: All right, onto less toxic but still polarizing, well pretty toxic.
Speaker 3: Still.
Speaker 2: Blake Lively, Blake Lively, that very influential. Blake Lively showed
Speaker 2: up at Time magazine's Time one hundred event where she,
Speaker 2: you know, was honored for.
Speaker 3: Being so influential, and.
Speaker 2: She used her speech there as an opportunity to, at
Speaker 2: the behest of her mother, share her mother's very personal
Speaker 2: story of almost being unlived.
Speaker 1: Unlived that's not a word.
Speaker 2: That's the social media lingo for schmurdered schmurdered. It really sucks.
Speaker 2: I hate the state of social media. Before I wrote
Speaker 2: some words to accompany the post of myself from the
Speaker 2: weekend where I spoke at the suicide Prevention Walk, I said,
Speaker 2: should I not mention the word suicide even though it's
Speaker 2: the suicide Prevention Walk? Because I know that post is
Speaker 2: not going to get as much reach because it has
Speaker 2: the S word in it, suicide. It's so depressed.
Speaker 3: I'm so depressed in social media in twenty twenty five, you.
Speaker 1: Know, And I see it on TikTok, and I've been
Speaker 1: realizing that people don't say certain words sometimes and I'm
Speaker 1: always like, what's up with that? And I didn't realize
Speaker 1: that you can't.
Speaker 3: I guess, no, you can, you just won't get as
Speaker 3: much reach.
Speaker 1: But that's what I mean. It's just weird that the
Speaker 1: people I follow have to skirt around language when it's
Speaker 1: mostly innocent.
Speaker 2: Anyways, How can I be compassionate here because there's a
Speaker 2: possibility that what Blake Lively shared is true. However, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of skeptics out there that don't believe this
Speaker 2: story about Blake Lively's mother, right, I would say that
Speaker 2: I'm agnostic. I would say that, you know, somebody made
Speaker 2: an accusation, and I think it could be true, and
Speaker 2: I think it could not be true.
Speaker 3: I'm in the middle here.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't think there's any reason to delve into
Speaker 1: whether it's true or not true. It's more about the
Speaker 1: timing of her doing this, Like you did a whole
Speaker 1: movie about domestic violence and you don't bring it up.
Speaker 1: Then you tell the girls to put their fucking florals
Speaker 1: on and you know, bring your best drinks out and
Speaker 1: your besties then. But now it's all serious and you
Speaker 1: know this happened to my mother and my voice, and
Speaker 1: I get why people are turned off by the timing
Speaker 1: of it all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if the word a parent I'm
Speaker 2: struggling to say.
Speaker 3: It's a possible there we go.
Speaker 2: It's a possible distraction, you know, deflection pr moment.
Speaker 3: But it's weird because it didn't work. Think it didn't work.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't you think that someone if that was the plan,
Speaker 1: someone would say to her, let's follow that rabbit down
Speaker 1: the hole. This is a bad idea. Is this something
Speaker 1: that she decided to do or is this something that
Speaker 1: her PR people decided that maybe she should talk about
Speaker 1: here because all across the board, I think this is
Speaker 1: a bad idea. There was a time to bring this up.
Speaker 1: I don't think this was the place for that.
Speaker 2: I would say this was either her idea or Ryan
Speaker 2: Reynolds's idea, because I don't believe a crisis communications expert
Speaker 2: would think this was smart. I don't because the ungrewhelming
Speaker 2: majority of people did not respond favorably to this revelation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, look, she's a villain and there's no getting
Speaker 1: that stink off of her. Now, it's not going to happen.
Speaker 1: She exudes ick and I've said it before, go away, lady,
Speaker 1: go away. But they're not gonna listen.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say something that you are usually the one
Speaker 2: to say, which is this is just on social media though,
Speaker 2: Like if she were out and about, people would want
Speaker 2: to go up to her and take selfies. People wouldn't
Speaker 2: be heckling her, like hey, Blake, what about Justin Baldoni.
Speaker 3: I don't think that would happen in the real world.
Speaker 1: I think it would be fleeting. I think that there
Speaker 1: would be the asshole that has a phone and would
Speaker 1: hold it up and try to get a response. And
Speaker 1: I do believe that there would be Papa Rozzi reporters,
Speaker 1: if you know what I mean, those people trying to
Speaker 1: get their moment that they could sell. I think that
Speaker 1: would exist. But overall, you're right. I mean, I'm watching
Speaker 1: her at this soccer match. She's out there taking selfies
Speaker 1: with people, and they're exactly you know, they just met
Speaker 1: Queen Elizabeth. Yeah, but that's people and fame in general.
Speaker 1: Everyone's full of shit. Everyone's got fake muscles when it
Speaker 1: comes to the internet. Everyone says what they're thinking in
Speaker 1: the back of their mind on the Internet, but they
Speaker 1: don't really believe it.
Speaker 2: Well, she was in the UK for her husband's soccer
Speaker 2: team and they won, and they're that much closer now
Speaker 2: to the Premier League, and her time there definitely seemed
Speaker 2: to be appreciated.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I saw all of the people there, happy that she
Speaker 2: was there and all of that. And just although I
Speaker 2: didn't see this, somebody said it in a comment either
Speaker 2: on the message board or somewhere else that I posted,
Speaker 2: or that I saw. Did you see did she pose
Speaker 2: for pictures with her booze brand on the soccer field?
Speaker 1: You know, somebody, I think I saw the words boozy whatever.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I believe she did. Oh god, I mean
Speaker 1: that doesn't shock me though, And look, I would say this,
Speaker 1: she didn't kill anybody. No, she is just wrapped up
Speaker 1: in a frivolous lawsuit and that's all that this is.
Speaker 1: And I do think at the end of the day
Speaker 1: this all will be forgotten because there's no real quote
Speaker 1: crime here. This is just ridiculousness on her part leaning
Speaker 1: into this thing. But this thing is making her famous.
Speaker 1: This thing has got her on the Time one hundred
Speaker 1: Most Influential People list. Whether that means anything or not,
Speaker 1: the answer is not. By the way, it's put her
Speaker 1: in a stratosphere of conversation. That's whether you're a villain
Speaker 1: or your beloved. That equals hits and money and brand
Speaker 1: value and blah blah blah. Because at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, like you said, everyone will come down and
Speaker 1: take their picture with you. I don't think she cares.
Speaker 3: Yes, she was always just the B lister.
Speaker 2: She was always just Ryan Reynolds's wife or Taylor Swift's
Speaker 2: best friend. And in a way this has now elevated her,
Speaker 2: even if it isn't too villain category, She's now an
Speaker 2: A list villain. That's for fucking sure, yeah, also in
Speaker 2: the villain category. And I would have never predicted this,
Speaker 2: but in the minds of many. I still won't say most,
Speaker 2: but perhaps most. Katy Perry is now a villain. There
Speaker 2: is literally nothing she can do where she will win
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five. It's so wild because she keeps
Speaker 2: on misfiring and miscalculating and thinking that the public is
Speaker 2: going to respond one way and they respond the complete
Speaker 2: opposite way. Like, I'm sure Katy Perry thought that whole
Speaker 2: Blue Origin flight would have been received warmly and like, oh,
Speaker 2: you're doing something for the for young women and inspiring
Speaker 2: the blah blah. No, it wasn't received that way. And
Speaker 2: then I'm sure in the back of her mind and
Speaker 2: she thought, well, that didn't go very well for me.
Speaker 2: But you know what, I'm about to kick off my tour.
Speaker 2: It's a lot of hits on the tour. People are
Speaker 2: gonna love this. No, She's gone super viral all over
Speaker 2: social media in every platform, millions upon millions of views
Speaker 2: and dozens of videos of her being seemingly cringe and
Speaker 2: bad and people leaving ninety plus percent negative comments. However,
Speaker 2: I'm not one of those people. I watched the entire
Speaker 2: thing on YouTube, and sure are there some moments of cringe, Yes,
Speaker 2: but it's a great show. It's a huge production. She
Speaker 2: did not cheap out on her fans. There are multiple
Speaker 2: moments of lovettage, like actually she spends most of the
Speaker 2: show flying, like there's all these contraptions and this and that,
Speaker 2: and like she could have made way more money every
Speaker 2: night had she not spent so much on production, but
Speaker 2: she wanted to give her fans a big show. And
Speaker 2: I think if you are a Katy Perry fan and
Speaker 2: you like all of those hits, and she's got so
Speaker 2: many fucking hits, and you go see this show, you
Speaker 2: won't leave feeling disappointed.
Speaker 1: Right, I think, especially in other countries as well.
Speaker 2: I'm getting an awful sense of deja vu from twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four. And I know that some of you might
Speaker 2: fight back on this, but I do think that there
Speaker 2: is a layer of misogyny here because it reminds me
Speaker 2: so much of Jennifer Lopez and.
Speaker 1: How by that.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of it is also tied to
Speaker 2: monetization on social media. Creators know that Katy Perry is
Speaker 2: so toxic right now that if they make a video
Speaker 2: about her, or even share a clip of her, it'll
Speaker 2: get a lot of attention and make them a lot
Speaker 2: of money. So then it just becomes this pile on effect,
Speaker 2: and I don't think is necessarily fair or even a
Speaker 2: reflection of the truth. Like it's a great show.
Speaker 1: Well let's go back a conversation, and it's the same thing.
Speaker 1: I think. There's always an Internet villain, There's always going
Speaker 1: to be a story, There's always going to be a
Speaker 1: pylon somewhere. It's just part of social media and how
Speaker 1: people communicate with one another, Like you need to have
Speaker 1: something to shit on to participate in the Internet. That's
Speaker 1: what makes it so toxic social media. I agree with
Speaker 1: everything you said. I think the Jennifer Lopez of it
Speaker 1: all is the perfect kind of comparison because they've stopped
Speaker 1: with Jen, you know what I mean, Like they've moved on,
Speaker 1: but Jen mostly hasn't been feeding it, and Katy Perry's
Speaker 1: now on tour and the whole space thing. I think
Speaker 1: people just want to pile up on that and find moments.
Speaker 1: But you know, the things I saw from the Katie tour,
Speaker 1: I thought we're pretty cringey, But looking at some of
Speaker 1: the moves and such a It just doesn't look very
Speaker 1: thought out to me her tour from what I've seen online,
Speaker 1: and look, you watched the whole thing. I'll take your
Speaker 1: I'll take your word for it. But what I've seen
Speaker 1: it looks like, oh I saw a Pink show, and
Speaker 1: oh I saw Taylor Swift show, and oh I saw
Speaker 1: Jojo Siwash show, and I'm just gonna do all their
Speaker 1: shows and I'm just going to try to do that.
Speaker 1: And some of the dance moves were pretty like phoned
Speaker 1: in if you ask me.
Speaker 3: Well, she's not ever been a dancer.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it just has that look. It doesn't
Speaker 1: feel authentic, is all I'll say about what I saw.
Speaker 1: But I don't actually know what she is. I've never
Speaker 1: really known what she is. I mean, it all seems
Speaker 1: kind of put on to me. So I agree with you,
Speaker 1: though I think ultimately, I think you're right. The internet
Speaker 1: needs a villain always, it always needs a villain, so
Speaker 1: it's a lot of that. But I did hear something
Speaker 1: I heard part of that tour. She had a whole
Speaker 1: space section in the tour that was going to be
Speaker 1: part of the show, and then they just scrubbed it
Speaker 1: because they're like that the Space thing went so badly
Speaker 1: and they realized, like, we're going to scratch this and
Speaker 1: we're going to do something else.
Speaker 2: That could explain why some people were calling her out
Speaker 2: for using AI visuals. Maybe they had made good visuals
Speaker 2: and spent money on them, but the visuals were all
Speaker 2: Space visuals, so at the last minute they needed some
Speaker 2: like quick new visuals.
Speaker 1: Well, that's what I had heard a couple of times.
Speaker 1: I could believe that it's what you said. I always
Speaker 1: say everything they talk about online, nothing's real. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: It's just fodder for the stupid, that's all it is.
Speaker 1: It's just so people can participate in something. And people
Speaker 1: are inherently cheap. They just follow along. If somebody says
Speaker 1: something sucks, there's forty five people behind you listening and going, yeah,
Speaker 1: it sucks. People can't think for their own They didn't
Speaker 1: at least take the next step like you did and said, hey,
Speaker 1: let me go watch this whole show and let me
Speaker 1: investigate my It's easier to take other people's opinions and
Speaker 1: just continue to spread them, and that's what's probably happening here.
Speaker 2: And I would absolutely go to her show if I
Speaker 2: got free tickets, but I don't and I'm not going
Speaker 2: to ask for them.
Speaker 1: So there's another aspect of this too. The other parts
Speaker 1: of the world haven't seen her, and fan bases are different.
Speaker 1: The worst crowds in the world, if you ask me,
Speaker 1: are Los Angeles crowds. They're a bore. But you go
Speaker 1: see Katie in Mexico City.
Speaker 3: Or Brazil, they them. Yeah, Brazil is the wildest, but.
Speaker 1: People go ape shit when an artist comes to their
Speaker 1: part of the world and they haven't seen it. They're
Speaker 1: hungry for it. We get so much here and in
Speaker 1: Vegas probably as well, just because of the amount of
Speaker 1: entertainment that's there. People are ho hum. I think it's
Speaker 1: a lot of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, next year it'll be better. And
Speaker 2: I think she still has all the hits. You may
Speaker 2: not hate her, but she's got so many fucking hits.
Speaker 1: You're right, that's all that matters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she'll always be able to make money off
Speaker 2: of them, right, Like even Paula Abdul. I love Paula Abdul,
Speaker 2: but Katie can actually sing, and Paula is not like
Speaker 2: a vocalist like Katie is. Katie may not be the
Speaker 2: best singer, but she can actually sing Okay.
Speaker 1: J lo And and Paula Abdull are the same person.
Speaker 2: Exactly, So anyways, sending positive vibes her way does seem
Speaker 2: like it has affected her though, because Katie I just noticed,
Speaker 2: has limited for the first time her comments on Instagram,
Speaker 2: meaning not everybody can leave a comment now, so it'll
Speaker 2: blow over. But that's a clear indication that like shit's
Speaker 2: getting to her if she's limited her comments, So all right. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: over in the UK, Joe Joe Siwah is making a
Speaker 2: lot of headlines actually not even there everywhere because she's
Speaker 2: internationally known. She just left the Celebrity Big Brother UK
Speaker 2: House and her time on that show was very eventful,
Speaker 2: from a headline making exchange with Mickey Rourke to her
Speaker 2: spending a lot of time with her thoughts and feelings
Speaker 2: and saying, you know what, I'm not a lesbian, I'm queer,
Speaker 2: meaning she's potentially open to dating or being attracted to men.
Speaker 2: And she had a very close friendship with a guy
Speaker 2: in the house, this guy named Chris, and then at
Speaker 2: the rap party, her girlfriend from Australia had flown all
Speaker 2: the way from Australia to London and Jojo dumped her
Speaker 2: at the rap party. However, she literally a few minutes
Speaker 2: ago gave an interview talking about everything, and she insisted
Speaker 2: that this relationship with the guy from the house is
Speaker 2: just platonic, and I believe that. I don't think they
Speaker 2: hooked up or anything like that, and I don't think
Speaker 2: it's emotional cheating either. The experience of Big Brother is
Speaker 2: so wild, and I know because I experienced it.
Speaker 3: You know, you are not in the real world.
Speaker 2: You don't have all this distraction, so a day really
Speaker 2: feels like a week, and you can form really tight
Speaker 2: bonds and relationships with people that you wouldn't necessarily in
Speaker 2: the real world. And it's also heightened too, It's like
Speaker 2: it's not necessarily real either. I would say, you know,
Speaker 2: you have this really special bond and it might not
Speaker 2: last when they're now out in the real world.
Speaker 1: That's a good way to put it, because I mean,
Speaker 1: even watching like Love is Blind and The Bachelor, they
Speaker 1: eliminate the noise of the world and then they put
Speaker 1: you in these situations that in the regular world you're
Speaker 1: not going to experience. Maybe on vacation a little bit
Speaker 1: of it, but you know, you're not getting in a
Speaker 1: helicopter and going on or romantic date and it's not
Speaker 1: just you and the other person and the focus of
Speaker 1: the whole world being on you. You probably do get
Speaker 1: caught up in the emotion of that and the erasing
Speaker 1: of the rest of the outside world. And it's almost
Speaker 1: like therapy that's prolonged. You're focused on yourself and yourself
Speaker 1: only and that's your world for a week or two
Speaker 1: weeks or a month at a time. So I get
Speaker 1: how that could be confusing.
Speaker 2: Therapy is a positive thing. Celebrity big brother can be
Speaker 2: very negative and it's hard. It's not as always lovely
Speaker 2: as therapy can. I mean, I guess therapy can be
Speaker 2: hard too. So in those moments of difficulty, when it's
Speaker 2: a hard thing that you're doing in that house, you
Speaker 2: just also cling to anybody that's making it easier for.
Speaker 3: You, you know what.
Speaker 2: I'm sure they made the process easier for each other.
Speaker 2: And of the moment when she dumped her girlfriend at
Speaker 2: the rap party, which we found out about because the
Speaker 2: next day on Saturday, JoJo's girlfriend made a very long
Speaker 2: video talking about everything, and she does accuse Jojo of
Speaker 2: emotional cheating. Don dun da and she did it say
Speaker 2: that she thinks that some of the things that we
Speaker 2: saw were real, like some of the flirtatiousness and all
Speaker 2: of that. So, you know, she said that Jojo has
Speaker 2: confused feelings. That that's what Jojo told her, that she's
Speaker 2: got confused feelings. However, on Today, This On, This Morning Today.
Speaker 2: The show's called This Morning On This Morning Today.
Speaker 1: Not the Today Show. This Morning Yeah, This Morning Today.
Speaker 3: It's like, who's on first.
Speaker 2: Anyways, Jojo said that she realized a lot of things
Speaker 2: about her relationship that she did not like. It was
Speaker 2: very mysterious, but she would not go into details. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: she's throwing that ex girlfriend under the bus. And she
Speaker 2: said that she didn't plan on dumping her at the
Speaker 2: after party, but that the girlfriend asked her if she
Speaker 2: was okay and if she was happy, and she was
Speaker 2: just honest and then things came out and up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's going to be hard for Jojo,
Speaker 1: or it is becoming hard for Jojo dealing with new
Speaker 1: fame outside of her bubble, meaning she's had her fans
Speaker 1: and her fan base which has been very focused on her.
Speaker 1: Now the rest of the world is starting to get
Speaker 1: to know her, and I think there's a euphoria to that,
Speaker 1: where you you're becoming a celebrity and in your mind
Speaker 1: you're becoming a big deal and norms don't apply to
Speaker 1: you anymore, and you're going to break up with somebody
Speaker 1: on a TV show. It's starting to unravel for her.
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I think you're wrong. I think that's exactly what's happening.
Speaker 1: And I think I know. I hope that she's cognizant
Speaker 1: of it, that none of this bullshit is real. This
Speaker 1: show's not real. Everything she thinks is not real. It's
Speaker 1: all because of the situations that she's in. That's how
Speaker 1: Hollywood works.
Speaker 3: That's also just a young person thing. She's twenty one years.
Speaker 1: Old, and pour on the fuel of celebrity on top
Speaker 1: of it, it becomes magnified times one hundred. Is all that.
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You're right, but I'm just saying, all of
Speaker 1: the craziness you experience in your twenties, you pile fame
Speaker 1: on top of it, it becomes a trash can fire, okay,
Speaker 1: and then a forest fire. And I think she's in
Speaker 1: the infancy of this, and I just hope she can
Speaker 1: stay grounded in it, because she seems like a grounded kid.
Speaker 1: That's what I likes about her. Yeah, but I think
Speaker 1: it's starting to fall apart a little bit. It's starting
Speaker 1: to unravel.
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: I think she's twenty one and I think she's still
Speaker 2: got it together.
Speaker 3: We'll see.
Speaker 1: I hope you're right right.
Speaker 3: We'll see, we'll see. I do predict.
Speaker 2: Perez a Damis predicts that that guy will definitely be
Speaker 2: coming to Los Angeles soon because he's a professional.
Speaker 3: Lover and he loves attention.
Speaker 2: Onto our sports segment, story number one, an update on
Speaker 2: our Patreon show, We talked about Shannon Sharp, the former
Speaker 2: NFL player who was recently accused by a woman that
Speaker 2: he was in a relationship with of rape. Well, now
Speaker 2: another woman has come forward, a second one, accusing him
Speaker 2: of sexual assault. And like this other woman, she too
Speaker 2: was in a relationship with Shannon Sharp and was very
Speaker 2: clear that she did not want to have sex with him,
Speaker 2: and he took advantage of her, according to a lawsuit.
Speaker 3: So one, all right, now.
Speaker 2: Two, it's starting to look real bad for him.
Speaker 1: So yeah, look, the guy loves to do some fucking,
Speaker 1: is what it sounds like to me, and I think
Speaker 1: when you're famous and you do a lot of fucking
Speaker 1: and you jump up and down and say it's consensual
Speaker 1: in this and that it may very well be, but
Speaker 1: you play with that fire enough times with these young
Speaker 1: girls and you start getting in that game. Beware. I
Speaker 1: don't know what happened. I don't know if he was
Speaker 1: in the wrong, but I will say he's too old
Speaker 1: to be fucking with these young girls like this, and
Speaker 1: come on, grow the fuck up, seriously, grow up. And
Speaker 1: that's what I'm seeing from this.
Speaker 2: There's a difference between being freaky and then being a rapist.
Speaker 1: Okay, when you put it out there enough times, like
Speaker 1: you said, here we are, here's another one. I gotta
Speaker 1: feel like the floodgates are going to come open because
Speaker 1: people smell money, and you know what happens when you
Speaker 1: smell money, And when you're a guy that's in your
Speaker 1: fifties and your or sixties whatever, you're just inviting trouble.
Speaker 1: Even George Clooney got married.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well.
Speaker 2: In other sports news, this has gone super viral. Former
Speaker 2: Patriots head coach Bill Belichick was interviewed by sixty Minutes,
Speaker 2: and his nearly fifty years younger girlfriend was like a
Speaker 2: helicopter parent by his side the whole time, and, according
Speaker 2: to sixty Minutes, repeatedly chiming in throughout the interview, but
Speaker 2: not on camera. But at one point they kept one
Speaker 2: of those moments in saying, oh, we're not talking about that,
Speaker 2: like when they asked Bill how he met the girlfriend,
Speaker 2: We're not going to talk about that.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god. It almost felt a little
Speaker 3: bit like elder abuse.
Speaker 1: Really, you didn't watch it, I didn't. I just read
Speaker 1: about it. I heard that she kept chiming in, and
Speaker 1: I didn't know that she was off camera.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I know she was off camera.
Speaker 1: That makes it even more interesting.
Speaker 2: More cringe, and more sad. Like the guy seems like
Speaker 2: a little bit Joe Biden ish, like a little bit
Speaker 2: of cognitive decline. Perhaps, I don't know, forty nine years
Speaker 2: younger Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1: Oh, these guys.
Speaker 3: When they get that pill, they're super mad.
Speaker 1: I guess.
Speaker 3: Well, speaking of the NFL, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: I had never heard this name before, but I definitely
Speaker 2: heard it a lot this weekend. Schadere Sanders the son
Speaker 2: of Dion Sanders. He was hyped to be one of
Speaker 2: the First, how does that even know what the one of.
Speaker 1: The early quarterbacks. Yeah, yeah, they've deemed him this great quarterback.
Speaker 1: College football is changed because the players get paid now
Speaker 1: and he's made millions of dollars right, players can get paid.
Speaker 1: And he's like a social media guy. You know. His
Speaker 1: dad's Dion Primetime Sanders, one of the greatest players ever,
Speaker 1: and his coach at the football team that he was
Speaker 1: on to put him in good situations. And his dad's
Speaker 1: really outspoken on where he was going to end up.
Speaker 1: And he probably scared a lot of teams off because
Speaker 1: the NFL, the one thing about them, they don't want distractions,
Speaker 1: especially from their quarterback. They just don't want it. They
Speaker 1: don't want the pomp and circumstance, the Instagram of it all.
Speaker 1: They really want to stay away from that. They're trying to,
Speaker 1: but you know, the world is the world and the
Speaker 1: way that it is, and I think a lot of
Speaker 1: general managers maybe deemed him too much of a distraction.
Speaker 2: Well, I read something that I forget what team. There's
Speaker 2: like one team who's spoke anonymously.
Speaker 1: Well, he interviewed with all of these teams.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he apparently gave a really he was like
Speaker 2: the worst interview, Like he was just really awful in interviews.
Speaker 1: And some people said maybe he did that on purpose
Speaker 1: because he didn't want to go to certain teams. And
Speaker 1: no one's bigger than the Shield, and by the Shield,
Speaker 1: I mean the NFL brand and the NFL they frown upon.
Speaker 2: That pause pause. We didn't get to like what actually happens. Oh, okay,
Speaker 2: he was supposed to be one of the first round picks.
Speaker 2: He threw a party on the first night, and assuming
Speaker 2: he was going to get picked in the first round.
Speaker 1: And if you saw the room like a press conference,
Speaker 1: he had hired all these camera crews and once again
Speaker 1: smells of distraction. This is not what an NFL franchise wants.
Speaker 1: They want some nerd.
Speaker 2: I mean, you need to be cocky, but there's a
Speaker 2: difference between you need to be confident but not cocky
Speaker 2: and arrogant.
Speaker 3: And it seems like he's cocky and arrogant.
Speaker 1: You picked up on that, right, And typically in the NFL,
Speaker 1: that's a wide receiver that's usually the firecracker of the team,
Speaker 1: that's always seemingly in the mix of whatever's going on.
Speaker 1: But you gotta be a cocky motherfucker to go across
Speaker 1: the middle from these monsters that are going to hit
Speaker 1: you and have the confidence that they do to catch bullets.
Speaker 1: These guys are the most elite talented people, so you
Speaker 1: do have to have a chip on your shoulder, and
Speaker 1: you do got to be cocky and confident. But you
Speaker 1: typically don't see that in quarterbacks. You don't see that.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's swagger. I think it turned
Speaker 1: off a lot of GMS.
Speaker 2: So he threw this big party expecting or hoping, predicting
Speaker 2: that he would be picked in the first round.
Speaker 3: He wasn't, and he ended.
Speaker 2: Up getting picked in the fifth round Shadeur Sanders in
Speaker 2: the fifth round at number one hundred and forty four.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a bit of an egg on his face situation.
Speaker 1: I will remind everybody this. Tom Brady was picked one
Speaker 1: ninety nine. He's the greatest quarterback. I personally think Dan
Speaker 1: Marino is the best quarterback ever, but hormance wise, he's
Speaker 1: the best quarterback in the history of the league. He
Speaker 1: was picked one ninety nine. It's a draft. No one's
Speaker 1: right today, no one's wrong today. Only time will tell
Speaker 1: if he makes it to the NFL, if he can
Speaker 1: figure out how to read a defense. If he can
Speaker 1: throw the deep ball. When I watched him, I'll say
Speaker 1: one thing about him. He's a fucking tough kid. He
Speaker 1: could take a hit. That's half the battle of the NFL.
Speaker 1: So we'll see. He's on the Browns, which is the
Speaker 1: worst organization in football. They have five quarterbacks right now. Five.
Speaker 3: That's too many quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: They're the team that has Deshaun Watson, the hand job guy.
Speaker 1: They're a bit of a mess of a franchise. It's
Speaker 1: the Browns being the Browns. That's what we say as
Speaker 1: Steeler fans. We'll see what happens, but look, drafts don't
Speaker 1: mean anything at the end of the day. This was
Speaker 1: a soap opera for men this weekend and it's just
Speaker 1: showing this kid's star power.
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