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Speaker 5: And this week, which is always Fat Tuesday in Marti

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Speaker 5: Gras happening in New Orleans, and I just saw some

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Speaker 5: Marty Grass revelers down there. Cyber truck had pulled up

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Speaker 5: on the street and there was a tremendous amount of

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Speaker 5: booing going on, and I just thought that was interesting

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Speaker 5: that that is like seen as an I was going

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Speaker 5: to say a vehicle, but it's actually a vehicle, so

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Speaker 5: using it as a here's.

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Speaker 3: The sound doing a cyber truck pulling troup. Oh, the

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Speaker 3: music play Saints in the background.

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Speaker 5: Any women are showing their boobs for needs yet it's

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Speaker 5: still time to do the leader of doge because you

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Speaker 5: hate cutbacks and spending.

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Speaker 3: I just don't get it.

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Speaker 4: Wasteful spending, idiotic spending, that's just tribal signaling.

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Speaker 3: Ouga boga.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, speaking of that sort of thing. Oh Michael,

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Speaker 4: are you giving up playing chest for lint? I am, yes,

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Speaker 4: no more shadless. So one of the themes that the

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Speaker 4: President struck in his speech last night was getting rid

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Speaker 4: of a bunch of woke crap and transgender this and that,

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Speaker 4: which I thought was terrific. And we'll play some highlights

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Speaker 4: in I don't know, twenty minutes, half an hour or

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Speaker 4: were very interesting, one more newsy and one more philosophical.

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Speaker 4: But first of all, the newsy thing. For the last decade,

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Speaker 4: the establishment media have touted advocates claims as fact that

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Speaker 4: we have roughly fifteen thousand transgender people serving in the

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Speaker 4: US military. If you're not familiar with the term, it

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Speaker 4: means a person of one sex pretending to be the

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Speaker 4: other sex. Wow, and over and over again, I've heard

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Speaker 4: the fifteen thousand numbers and thought, damn, that's a lot.

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Speaker 4: I know, believe, Yeah, I was. I didn't either, but

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Speaker 4: I had no idea what to think. But this week

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Speaker 4: President Donald Trump's Pentagon revealed that the number is about

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Speaker 4: forty two hundred service members, which is still a hell

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Speaker 4: of a lot, but it's just over one quarter of

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Speaker 4: what they were claiming. This adds up to one transgender

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Speaker 4: person for every five hundred service members in a military

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Speaker 4: of two point one million active in reserve members. I

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Speaker 4: am surprised that it is that many, and I'd be

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Speaker 4: curious as to what is going on psychosocially that would.

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Speaker 5: That would cause that. I mean, you talk about ridiculous tribalism.

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Speaker 5: I came across Bill Crystal's tweet last night. Most of

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Speaker 5: you don't know who he is. He used to be

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Speaker 5: one of my favorite pundits. He is a hardcore conservative,

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Speaker 5: like in the classic style. His dad, Irving Crystal founded

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Speaker 5: I think the Weekly Standard, one of the great writers

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Speaker 5: of conservatism, and Bill Crystal carried that on and then

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Speaker 5: Bill Crystal hated.

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Speaker 3: It, called Barry Goldwater a moderate.

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Speaker 5: Bill Crystal who used to be on you know, like

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Speaker 5: meet the Press and face a nation and arguing for

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Speaker 5: conservatives all these years. He hated Trump so much he

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Speaker 5: went over with the people that formed the Bulwark, and

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Speaker 5: they have become a grift machine. And they've just figured

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Speaker 5: out that if they say bad things about Republicans that

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Speaker 5: they can make a lot of money. And this is

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Speaker 5: what Bill Crystal tweeted out last night. Stand with trans Americans.

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Speaker 5: You don't have to understand everything about the transgender experience

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Speaker 5: to know that Trump's act of humiliation and dehumanization are

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Speaker 3: You've lost your mind.

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Speaker 5: Just because he hasn't lost his mind, he's become so cynical.

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Speaker 3: He just thinks, you know what, it's all a game. Anyway,

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Speaker 5: There are enough of these people out there if I

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Speaker 5: take this angle, they'll continue to you know, donate money

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Speaker 5: to us and read our stuff and give us clicks,

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Speaker 5: and I'll make a look whatever.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, give them the converts. Everybody wants to celebrate the converts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, Wow. That is some cynical crad.

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Speaker 4: So, speaking of which, those of us who aren't cynical

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Speaker 4: woke thing is just an excuse to say, you're in

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Speaker 4: can prove it with my anti racist theories, and obviously

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Speaker 4: we can't have a racist in charge, so now I'm

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Speaker 4: in charge. It's a method of conquest. It takes over institutions,

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Speaker 4: be they you know, schools or government departments or whatever.

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Speaker 4: We get the hardcore doing that, the people who want

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Speaker 4: This is the useful idiots, and they are legion in

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Speaker 3: The problem with that term is that Lenin's term, I

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Speaker 5: Yeah, John Lennon, no v I Lenin. The problem with

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Speaker 5: that term is that it's obviously quite insulting. It's not

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Speaker 5: a good way to explain to someone that they maybe

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Speaker 3: If you call them an idiot, right, you make a

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Speaker 4: Let's go with useful morons instead useful halfways. Now, it's

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Speaker 4: actually one of the better impulses in humankind, which is

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Speaker 4: what I'm leading toward. It's long been known that all

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Speaker 4: the intelligence agencies and governments of the world are interested

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Speaker 4: programs or certain governments. I mean that's obvious, right, Propaganda,

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Speaker 4: a guy who's been studying this his whole life, his

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Speaker 4: name is a Jason Christoff, and he did a presentation

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Speaker 4: recently that was hosted by Senator Ron Johnson speaking of

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Speaker 4: rock ribbed Conservatives, and he explained how mind control is

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Speaker 4: easy to execute because human beings are essentially walking psyops.

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Speaker 4: He said, he quote, he said, Mimetic programming, which is

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Speaker 4: the process of having someone learned to imitate patterns and behaviors,

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Speaker 4: is routinely used in Hollywood films and by powerful corporations

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Speaker 4: Mind control works on the subconscious, and the subconscious is

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Speaker 4: something that loves us and wants.

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Speaker 4: And it's in the realm of activity, similar to your

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Speaker 3: They're instinctive.

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Speaker 4: Your subconscious mind is always looking to establish what the

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Speaker 4: bigger group of humans is doing, and so it is

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Speaker 4: responsive to repetitive content. Simply put, people are always looking

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Speaker 4: to learn what a larger group is doing and fit in,

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Speaker 4: meaning that repeated messages can be enormously powerful. You know,

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Speaker 4: obviously we're just talking about conformity here, but all sales

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Speaker 4: organizations know this sure. Quoting again from mister Christoff. The

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Speaker 4: reason the subconscious does this is because it knows that

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Speaker 4: most humans like other humans who act, talk and think

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Speaker 4: like they do, and all the subconscious nuh, All your

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Speaker 4: subconscious know that it's safer to bond with a bigger group.

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Speaker 4: To break this mind control technique down further, your subconscious

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Speaker 4: automatically absorbs repetitive content and forces people to adopt ideas

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Speaker 3: Your reptile brain is telling.

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Speaker 4: You you decided this on your own, to go along

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Speaker 4: that's why, for example, do any of my beliefs come

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Speaker 4: you can do is be intellectually honest and examine your

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Speaker 4: beliefs and test them. Now, and again and try the

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Speaker 4: other ideas. But anyway, that's a great other topic.

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Speaker 3: What time is it? Yeah, we're good, blah blah blah.

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Speaker 4: This is why, for example, at a party where there's

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Speaker 4: a lot of alcohol being served and consumed, people can

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Speaker 4: feel nervous saying no when offered a drink. Quote, if

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Speaker 5: In the feeling of calmness, that's wow. So there's more

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Speaker 4: anthropologically adaptive. The problem is, you know, unless you're an alcoholic,

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Speaker 5: Bill Cosby's house, Oh right, exactly. In short, but if

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Speaker 4: An insidious group bent on evil utilizing these truths intentionally

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Speaker 4: walking around saying It's not wrong to have a man

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Speaker 5: And then certainly things that are easier to go for.

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Speaker 5: every class you're ever in your whole life right.

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Speaker 4: media let's push highly similar similar narratives to quote unquote

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Speaker 4: control people, influencing them to stay at home. Mind control

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Speaker 4: is the basis of all advertising, and the governments have

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Speaker 4: been proven to be using the same group dynamic application

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Speaker 4: UK's Behavioral Insights Team, informally known as the Nudge Unit.

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Speaker 4: government organization now run by a charity, which uses behavioral

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Speaker 3: Taxes on time Wow.

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Speaker 4: Christoff believes such tactics have been used to drive social

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Speaker 4: changes for decades, with depictions of large nuclear families on

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Speaker 4: conventional families with fewer children, among other things. And corporations

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Speaker 3: But we're running out of time. But you get the idea.

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Speaker 4: And I've often said, you don't need to do what

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Speaker 4: designed by people who do not have your best interests

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Speaker 4: is if you find yourself wanting to conform, understand that

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Speaker 4: that is your animal brain being used, often by evil

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Speaker 3: That's really interesting stuff.

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Speaker 5: So my thirteen year old, and it matters what his

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Speaker 3: You high five Joe came into that brother, but that.

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Speaker 4: All right, here's here's the guy who retweets my quotes.

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Speaker 3: Would you?

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Speaker 4: Anytime the government says there's an emergency, there are two emergencies.

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Speaker 4: The government isn't the solution. Government is the problem.

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Speaker 5: And the woman who was typing furiously after I said that,

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Speaker 4: By the way, if the Justice Department is listening, or

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Speaker 5: I'm sure I'm on some sort of terrorist watch list now, yes, Michael.

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Speaker 3: So wonder they didn't hit the silent alarm on you

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, We've got to surveill him for a

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Speaker 5: What I hate is the manager guy acting like it

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Speaker 5: makes sense that we have a law I can't vouch

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Speaker 3: Is that two forms of ID? And if not, what

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Speaker 3: the hell has the world becalled? I know Armstrong and.

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Speaker 2: The Armstrong and Getty Show.

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Speaker 6: The US Navy has dozens of nuclear powered submarines. Fourteen

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Speaker 5: I thought it would be good to play something current

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Speaker 5: People are still willing to fight to the death over

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Speaker 4: And I believe as we speak, we have the most

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Speaker 3: Really just heard that yesterday. I didn't know that it's

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Speaker 5: It's the most recent book written about. Downfall was going

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Speaker 4: And call it racism or bigotry or just resentment, but

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Speaker 4: that side. Loyal listener Mike San Francisco urged us me

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Speaker 4: to read about the Battle of Okinawa, which raged for

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Speaker 4: two months in three weeks and was one of the

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Speaker 4: last big ones before we were either going to invade

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Speaker 4: Japan or not. But one hundred thousand Japanese troops in Okinawa,

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Speaker 4: fifty thousand Allied casualties, around one hundred thousand Japanese casualties,

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Speaker 4: also including local Okinawan's conscripted into the Japanese army according

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Speaker 4: to localists, already is at least one hundred and forty

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Speaker 4: nine thousand Okinawan people were killed, died by course, suicide,

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Speaker 4: or went missing. So, yeah, the carnage at the end was, Oh,

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Speaker 4: it's unspeakable, it's unsinkable.

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Speaker 5: It is a version of total war that is practically

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Speaker 5: unseen on planet Earth. Why it doesn't get discussed more often,

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Speaker 5: I don't know. And then as to the idea that

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Speaker 5: Japan would have surrendered at any point, so Japan had

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Speaker 5: never surrendered historically in their twenty seven hundred year existence,

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Speaker 5: they had never surrendered to an invader, and more recently,

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Speaker 5: during World War Two, no Japanese unit, not one, had

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Speaker 5: surrendered in any battle, no matter how defeated they were.

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Speaker 5: They would continue to fight until they were all dead.

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Speaker 5: That was just to the last span their culture. And

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Speaker 5: it's kind of hard for us to get into the

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Speaker 5: mindset of it's why the whole Kamakazi thing worked. They

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Speaker 5: have a cultun of mindset that we do not have

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Speaker 5: of where they would take such great pride to have

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Speaker 5: their young son go get in a plane and fly

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Speaker 5: it into a ship and die. They were perfectly okay

466
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Speaker 5: with that. It made every bit of sense to them

467
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Speaker 5: to serve their god, King here Ahito. Thing that they

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Speaker 5: had going on, that we also can't quite wrap our

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Speaker 5: heads around culturally because it not only was it a monarch,

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Speaker 5: but it was a religious figure, and we just we

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Speaker 5: can't it doesn't make any sense to us culturally the

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Speaker 5: way that that worked. Roosevelt also believed, if you're a

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Speaker 5: fan of World War One, you know the hole stabbed

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Speaker 5: in the back myth that entered into Germany after Germany

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Speaker 5: lost and we left their government, we the Allies, left

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Speaker 5: their government in charge. Then the young Hitlers of the world,

477
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Speaker 5: people that had fought in the warst started this whole

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Speaker 5: Our government stabbed us in the back, and it's the

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Speaker 5: dirty Jews that caused it. Thing that grew and grew

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Speaker 5: and grew and led to the rise of the anger

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Speaker 5: of the German society. And Nazi Germany and World War

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Speaker 5: two and all that. Roosevelt knew that, and he didn't

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Speaker 5: want to leave in Germany or Japan any He wanted

484
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Speaker 5: to make sure Roosevelt believed Germany and Japan, every man,

485
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Speaker 5: woman and child in the country had to believe they

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Speaker 5: were defeated. To make sure that they either one of

487
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Speaker 5: them didn't rise up again. They had to all know

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Speaker 5: they were beaten, completely beaten. They were their own.

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Speaker 3: Government didn't stab in the back, nothing like that happened.

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Speaker 5: They were soundly defeated, and that was one of the

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Speaker 5: reasons they had to take it clear to the end

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Speaker 5: the way they did. Combined with that nobody had ever surrendered,

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Speaker 5: so there's no reason to think they would ever give up.

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Speaker 5: The Japanese we now have we've only had this for

495
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Speaker 5: thirty years. We now have the communications that were going

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Speaker 5: on in Japan. Thanks to Japanese historians. There are only

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Speaker 5: six people in control of the whole decision, they called

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Speaker 5: the Big Six. Five of them were in the military,

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Speaker 5: and they had no interest in surrendering whatsoever, and they

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Speaker 5: were willing to lose tens of millions of Japanese civilians.

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Speaker 5: They believe if we surrounded him and did a blockade

502
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Speaker 5: and tried to starve them out, which ended up that

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Speaker 5: was going to be the plan. If we didn't drop

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Speaker 5: the bomb, we were going to surround Japan and starve

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Speaker 5: millions of people until they surrendered, which would have killed

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Speaker 5: way more people than the bombs killed. But the Big

507
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 5: Six in Japan, they figured, if twenty million Japanese starved,

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Speaker 5: the world opinion will finally turn against the Allies in

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Speaker 5: the United States, and.

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Speaker 3: While surry hamas like strategy.

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Speaker 5: Exactly, and we'll be able to negotiate a much better situation.

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Speaker 5: They're perfectly comfortable with that for anybody who argues that

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Speaker 5: there is a way out that would have been less

514
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Speaker 5: deadly than the nuclear weapons. Also mentioned it the other day,

515
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Speaker 5: but worth mentioning again, around two hundred thousand people were

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Speaker 5: killed by the bombs. It's hard depends on where you

517
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 5: know you do the cutoff because the cancer later and

518
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 5: everything like that. But around two hundred thousand died from

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Speaker 5: the bombs that were dropped eighty years ago tomorrow, and

520
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 5: then on the ninth the other bomb, twice as many

521
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Speaker 5: Japanese as that at the hands of the Russians in

522
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Speaker 5: the very same weeks as Russia was coming on and

523
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Speaker 5: taking ground and trying to take it back from that

524
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Speaker 5: much more ruthless than we were. When you ever hear

525
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Speaker 5: anybody say anything about that, well, yeah, self hatred is

526
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Speaker 5: the hallmark of the progressive and they're proud of it.

527
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Speaker 4: They stoke it, they like it, and it's it's just

528
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Speaker 4: it's it's perverse.

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Speaker 5: They had a million men ready to defend a ground invasion,

530
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Speaker 5: some eight thousand planes, maybe half of which we're going

531
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Speaker 5: to be kamakazis attacking every one of our ships, which

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Speaker 5: would have been That's why they ultimately decided, and we've

533
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 5: only known this since the nineties, that are our navy

534
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 5: decided we ain't going to do this. That's a no.

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Speaker 5: We're a no vote on that. So the ground invasion

536
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Speaker 5: was not gonna have it because it would have been

537
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Speaker 5: too deadly. It just absolutely couldn't be done. So it

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Speaker 5: was either starve them out or drop the bomb. So

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Speaker 5: I went to the Oppenheimer movie with a friend. When

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Speaker 5: was that three four years ago that that Oppenheimer movie

541
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Speaker 5: came out. This friend was a super lib But anyway,

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00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 5: we're driving away from the movie theater and we're having

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Speaker 5: a conversation about the whole should we have dropped the

544
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Speaker 5: bomb or not? Kind of got started the conversation and

545
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 5: it was very funny because it took us ten fifteen

546
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Speaker 5: minutes of driving and saying, I know, can you believe

547
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Speaker 5: that there are some people that believe that. Before we

548
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 5: realized we were, we had completely different positions. We're both saying,

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Speaker 5: I know, it's crazy that people believe that. I was thinking,

550
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Speaker 5: it's crazy that people believe we shouldn't have dropped the bomb.

551
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Speaker 5: She was thinking, it's crazy that people think we should

552
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Speaker 5: have dropped the bomb. And at some point, and it

553
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 5: got very quiet in the car after that, we realized, oh, oh,

554
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Speaker 5: we're completely on the opposite side of this, because those

555
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Speaker 5: of us on whichever side, just can't believe the other

556
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Speaker 5: side believed what they believe. And I'm on the side of,

557
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 5: obviously we should have dropped the bomb. Who wouldn't have

558
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Speaker 5: given the circumstances. But there are plenty of people that

559
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 5: think it's just nuts that we opened up the can

560
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Speaker 5: of worms, and it's one of the great black marks

561
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Speaker 5: in US history that we crossed that line and dropped.

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Speaker 3: In atomic bomb on Japan. Yeah, what's the.

563
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Speaker 5: Other pushback the best put what's what's the college kid?

564
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 5: College professor pushback on dropping the bomb that Japan was

565
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Speaker 5: prepared to offer a not unconditional, but more or less

566
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Speaker 5: complete surrender, and that it just had to be worked

567
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Speaker 5: out over the course of a couple more days of conversation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no documentation for that.

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Speaker 4: There are a couple of communications from a couple of

570
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Speaker 4: people that hint that that might be possible, and they

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Speaker 4: extrapolate from there and feel free.

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Speaker 3: We can talk about this as long as you want.

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Speaker 4: But on the at home sociological why do people believe

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Speaker 4: what your friend did? It occurred to me, and I've

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Speaker 4: said this many many times, that if you are on

576
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Speaker 4: the left, you get a great deal of social reinforcement,

577
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 4: a lot of pats on the back, acceptance for being

578
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Speaker 4: a self hating American. But it's funny. I hadn't really

579
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Speaker 4: looked at it from the other perspective. You cannot be

580
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Speaker 4: accepted in those circles if you are a patriotic American

581
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Speaker 4: who thinks, by and large, we have been a great

582
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Speaker 4: country doing mostly the right thing. I mean that is

583
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 4: you are drummed out. That's it's like committing an act

584
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Speaker 4: of violence. You know, at a social club, that's it.

585
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 4: There's no hearing you're gone. That's enormous social pressure for

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Speaker 4: those people.

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Speaker 5: Well, just as a response to your thing for we

588
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 5: and we can break And I want to get two

589
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 5: in the weeds one this, but the Big Six made

590
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Speaker 5: all the decisions for Japan. If there was going to

591
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Speaker 5: be any sort of surrender, they would have to do it.

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Speaker 5: There's no indication anybody in that group wanted to surrender.

593
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Speaker 5: And five of the X were in the military and

594
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Speaker 5: they absolutely were into fighting to the last man.

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Speaker 3: So it just was never gonna happen.

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Speaker 5: Right Anyway, I wanted to get this on on the

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Speaker 5: fifth because I have a feeling tomorrow you'll hear a

598
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Speaker 5: lot of news from mainstream media pushing the idea that

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Speaker 5: we did something wrong, and I'll be interested to see

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Speaker 5: how that plays on your evening newscast.

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Speaker 2: The Armstrong and Getty Show. Yeah, Marjah, your shoe podcasts

602
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Speaker 2: and our hot links thee Armstrong and Getty Show.

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Speaker 5: Do you have a compelling reason for why we eighty

604
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 5: year anniversary of US dropping the bomb on Japan is tomorrow?

605
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Speaker 5: Do you have a reason why we focus so much

606
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 5: more on the fight in the nazis European part of

607
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 5: World War.

608
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Speaker 3: Two as opposed to the Pacific War.

609
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Speaker 4: I don't know that I've perceived that in the same

610
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Speaker 4: way you did. I've always been into the Pacific War,

611
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Speaker 4: partly because my father in law served there, and I've

612
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Speaker 4: always been acutely aware of it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe culturally, I.

614
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Speaker 5: Know, factually, in terms of movies and books and everything,

615
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 5: like the whole European theater dominates and has forever. I

616
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 5: think it's because it was just so morally more clear cut.

617
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 5: Things got so ugly against the Japanese, bit by bit,

618
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 5: island by island, where both sides were just so. The

619
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Speaker 5: book I'm reading read several of them, Twilight of the

620
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Speaker 5: Gods by Ian Tole, which is considered one of the

621
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Speaker 5: definitive books on it. He had a story, Oh, by

622
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Speaker 5: the way, we got a text the Japanese. The text was,

623
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Speaker 5: it's cute that you think the Japanese surrendered because of

624
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 5: the bombs. It was because they knew Russia was coming.

625
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 5: There's no documentation about that. If you have a book

626
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 5: that says that's true, that's a common narrative, but there's

627
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Speaker 5: no documentation that that conversation was being had by the

628
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 5: Big Six who made these decisions in Japan. So if

629
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 5: you have a different book that says they were, you know,

630
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 5: feel free to text me.

631
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Speaker 3: I'd be interested in reading it.

632
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 5: For instance, on one of the islands, and I don't

633
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 5: remember which one it was, but this became a common thing.

634
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 5: Our marines would come across dead US soldiers who had

635
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 5: had their genitals cut off and shoved in their mouths,

636
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 5: sometimes while they were alive, by the Japanese. So the

637
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 5: Japanese soldiers had come across, you know, a wounded marine

638
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 5: cut off his junk stick in his mouth. So we

639
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 5: got more and more brutal, and it just it got

640
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,280
Speaker 5: that way to where it was just like freaking Lord

641
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 5: of the Flies, total war, as awful as it could get,

642
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 5: foot by foot, trench by trench in the mud and

643
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 5: the blood and your own feces and everything right across

644
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 5: the islands, And that's what it was going to be

645
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 5: in Japan. And it had a story in there of

646
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 5: collecting gold teeth became a thing, so US soldiers would

647
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 5: collect gold tea And it had a story in there

648
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 5: about one US soldier coming across a wounded but still

649
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 5: alive Japanese who then took his bayonet and started digging

650
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 5: in the guy's mouth, trying to pry his teeth out

651
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 5: while they're still alive. Of some of the fellow US

652
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 5: soldiers said, dude, that's not cool. Came up and shot

653
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 5: the guy in the head to put him out of

654
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 5: his misery. But that's the sort of warfare. It was

655
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Speaker 5: there at the end, and it was going to be

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Speaker 5: that times. Who knows how many thousand on the beaches

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Speaker 5: of Japan if we actually invaded.

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Speaker 4: Well, and I think Europe got more coverage partly because

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Speaker 4: a film crew could do what they did then go

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Speaker 4: back to Paris or London or whatever, and so you

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Speaker 4: can't do that in the islands of the Pacific.

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Speaker 5: Space, said Crisis a legend alls a hard time.

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Speaker 3: This bad trucker with Elasi, bad therapy and a mouth

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Speaker 3: they went.

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Speaker 1: They covered it all this morning and tomorrow they'll do

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Speaker 1: even more.

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Speaker 4: The arms strong and Getty showed the conscience.

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Speaker 3: Serveny