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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Greece in the last Days.

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Speaker 2: In the murder case of Tristan Bailly, the gorgeous Florida

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Speaker 2: cheerleader found dead, we all know that teen boy Aiden

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Speaker 2: Fucci was convicted for murdering Billy on Mother's Day twenty one,

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Speaker 2: but Aiden Fuci's mother agreed to plead guilty for washing

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Speaker 2: the blood out of her son, Aiden Fuci's genes after

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Speaker 2: he murdered Tristan Billy. That's right, Crystal Smith, thirty seven,

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Speaker 2: pleads no contest to tampering with evidence. That's a third

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Speaker 2: degree felony. She'll go to yell, all right, but just

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Speaker 2: for thirty days followed by five years probation for intentionally

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Speaker 2: washing the blood out of her son's janes. Crystal Smith

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Speaker 2: has now been released now. According to Crystal Smith's lawyer,

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Speaker 2: Smith had no idea why her son's jeans were so

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Speaker 2: bloody when she washed them. Do you believe it?

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Speaker 1: I don't. What happened the night Tristan Bailly went missing.

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Speaker 3: Her body was found in a wooded area near her neighborhood.

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Speaker 3: The medical examiner says she was stabbed to debt.

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Speaker 4: Later that day, a jogger in the neighborhood found a

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Speaker 4: young girl's body bloody in the neighborhood's woods. The medical

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Speaker 4: examiner's report, released Wednesday, indicates Bailey had been stabbed one

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Speaker 4: hundred and fourteen times and had defensive wounds. That report

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Speaker 4: also revealed the suspected weapon, a knife, was found in

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Speaker 4: a pond only one hundred and forty feet from the body,

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Speaker 4: the knife missing its tip.

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Speaker 5: The tip found in Tristan's scalp.

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Speaker 2: The knife so violently used to murder this little cheerleader

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Speaker 2: still embedded in her scalp and skull. Oh yeah, somebody

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Speaker 2: is going to jail. Guys, you were just listening to

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Speaker 2: our friend Jennifer Ready at First Coast and wj XT

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Speaker 2: News for Jacks. Let me introduce you an all star

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Speaker 2: panel joining us. First of all, you know him well,

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Speaker 2: A veteran defense attorney, Troy Slayton joining us out of

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Speaker 2: La Slayton Lawyers. Doctor Bethany Marshall, Psychoanalyst to the Stars,

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Speaker 2: joining us out of Hollywood. You can find her at

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Speaker 2: Dr Bethany Marshall dot com. Start a brand new series

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Speaker 2: on Netflix, Bleeding Empire. Doctor Tim Gallagher, the medical examiner

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Speaker 2: for the entire state of Florida at pathcaremed dot com.

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Speaker 2: Karen nel Smith joining me forensics expert, lecturer University Florida

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Speaker 2: and host of Shattered Souls podcast, but first to Ray Compute,

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Speaker 2: a lead news anchor Orlando Morning News at WDBO Ray

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Speaker 2: Compute Before you say a word, listen to.

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Speaker 6: This prevalence video spotted what appears to be Tristan Bailey

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Speaker 6: walking north from the Amenite He Center at one fourteen am.

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Speaker 6: Thirty one minutes later, two people are seen walking east

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Speaker 6: along Saddlestone Drive at one forty five am. One is

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Speaker 6: wearing shorts a HITDI and white shoes with a black

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Speaker 6: That same camera then capturing one person walking back west,

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Speaker 6: with the black Nike logo. That was around three twenty

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Speaker 6: seven am. One hour forty two minutes later, police found

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Speaker 5: This video, at twelve fifteen am on May ninth, shows

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Speaker 5: two people believed to be teens walking east on Saddlestone Drive.

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Speaker 5: This was on Mother's Day. The same day, investigator say

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Speaker 5: Tristan Bailey was found dead. The Saint John's County Sheriff's

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Speaker 5: Office investigator say, this video shows Fucci running at one

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Speaker 2: Guys, you're hearing our friends at First Coast News and

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Speaker 2: WJXT News Jacks. You know the shadowy images caught on

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Speaker 2: a surveillance video shows the thirteen year old cheerleader Tristan

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Speaker 2: thank you for being with us, WDBO. Where is thirteen

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Speaker 2: year old Tristan Bailey that evening? Where had she been?

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Speaker 7: Well, she was hanging out in her neighborhood in Durban

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Speaker 7: crossing Nancy. That's in Saint John's Forges, south of Jacksonville.

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Speaker 7: It's an upper middle c neighborhood and it was late

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Speaker 2: I understand Ray Computero, that there was like a community

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Speaker 2: They all the teens, and we had one of those,

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Speaker 2: And when I was little, it seems so big. Now

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Speaker 2: So how in the world does a teen boy's mother

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Speaker 2: get tied into all of this. You've got a little

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Speaker 2: to the tip of a knife in her skull. Now

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Speaker 2: you've got an unrelated teen boy's mother charged. Why Jackie,

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Speaker 2: please play the new sound.

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Speaker 8: We received a series of videos late this afternoon, including

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Speaker 8: detectives say is Fucci's mom washing blood off of his jeans.

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Speaker 6: All your Side, Robert Bradfield is live tonight in the

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Speaker 6: newsroom looking through that video as prosecutors build a first

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Speaker 6: re murder case against the Saint John's County teenager. Robert

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Speaker 6: oh Good evening.

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Speaker 9: That video inside Fucci's home is about sixteen minutes long,

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Speaker 9: seen cleaning her son's bloody jeans. When officers went into

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Speaker 9: jeans and a drain in a bathroom tested positive for blood.

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Speaker 9: Smith was arrested in June. She is charged with evidence tampering.

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Speaker 9: Now other video released today shows who detectives believe our

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Speaker 2: Okay, Troy s Layton, veteran defense attorney, if mommy had

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Speaker 2: get that it's an accident, But for mommy to pick

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Speaker 10: Slayton.

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Speaker 11: Well, I know, Nancy, when I was a kid and

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Speaker 11: scrub those things to get those stains out. So maybe

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Speaker 11: she was just acting like a good man. Saw some

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Speaker 11: to stain out. What we don't know is that the

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Speaker 11: mother knew that this was blood from a potential crime

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Speaker 2: How can I slice up everything? He just said, Jackie,

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Speaker 2: could you play that new sound one more time?

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Speaker 6: All your side. Robert Bradfield is live tonight in the newsroom.

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Speaker 6: Looking through that video. Was prosecutor's build a first remurder

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Speaker 9: Robert oh Good evening that video inside Fucci's home is

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Speaker 9: state's attorney says Smith is seen cleaning her son's bloody jeans.

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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: Teen boy Aiden Fuci convicted in the murder of a

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Speaker 1: But what does his mom have to do with that?

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Speaker 2: Well, believe it or not, they convicted teen killer's mother

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Speaker 2: behind bars. But why for washing the blood out of

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Speaker 2: her son, Aidan Fuci's jeans after he murdered Tristan Bailey. Uh.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Bethany Marshall, I'd really like to see the timestamp

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Speaker 2: when mommy is cleaning the jeans and the bathroom. There's

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Speaker 2: no doubt she knew it was blood. Okay, because there's

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Speaker 2: still blood in the drain, and it's Tristan Bailey's blood,

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Speaker 2: But Slayton has a valid point. But if she was

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Speaker 10: Nancy, Let's look at it this way. This is not

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Speaker 10: the first time mommy has tried to cover up bad

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Speaker 10: acts that her son whoci has undertaken. You know, mothers

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Speaker 10: you know their character, you know what they're capable.

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Speaker 2: Of, Anthony, you darn't right, go ahead.

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Speaker 10: Do you know who their friends are? You know whether

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Speaker 10: He is a young tween, he's barely a teenager. He's

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Speaker 10: I don't think it's a good thing that mother is

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Speaker 10: What were you doing out till three forty in the morning.

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Speaker 10: What was going on at that community center? She should

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Speaker 2: You know, another issue I'm gonna throw to you. Then

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Speaker 2: I'll circle back to Karen Smith and doctor Tim Gallagher.

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Speaker 2: Dr Bethany, let me go to Rakipedo first. I also

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Speaker 2: learned that, according to documents that we've just gotten our

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Speaker 2: tells police he frequently he talked about killing people, that

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Speaker 2: he would take his knife out and pretend to stab

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, you know some people like their guns, Nancy.

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Speaker 7: This kid liked knives. One of his friends even said

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Speaker 7: Knives, Yes, ma'am, picker and poker.

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean this kid liked his knives. They found

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Speaker 7: Oh that's correct, Nancy. I mean, this kid had some

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Speaker 7: He was even telling people about what he did here,

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Speaker 2: I hardly think that naming your nice picker and poker

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Speaker 10: Well, thank god, Nancy. Sociopathy, which this young man surely

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Speaker 10: This is a budding serial killer in the making. You know,

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Speaker 10: This mother knew what was happening, Nancy, She saw this

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Speaker 2: To doctor Tim Gallagher, a medical examiner for the state

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Speaker 12: Well, first of all, I don't want w too mentioned

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Speaker 12: But going getting back to her.

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Speaker 12: Wonderful, wonderful man. I can't say enough about him. But

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Speaker 2: I don't know about that, doctor Gallagher, because this was

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Speaker 12: But you can see there was a struggle that she

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Speaker 2: I got to tell you something, doctor, I just saw

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Speaker 2: host off Shattered Souls podcast. You've seen the homicides as well,

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Speaker 13: I've seen it. Unfortunately, just like doctor Gallagher said, it

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Speaker 13: you said, a sexual release, whatever the motivation is. Multiple

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Speaker 13: there's something that I need to talk about regarding not

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Speaker 13: been saying about these genes. Mommy can try to clean

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Speaker 13: That's very common as well. So I just want to

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Speaker 13: command the Saint John Sheriff of Saint John's County Sheriff's

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Speaker 2: They really did a great job processing this, plus finding

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Speaker 2: to our cut twenty five. This is Heather Crawford, First Coastnies.

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Speaker 3: So let's talk more about these new documents. They were

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Speaker 3: also shedding light on the night Aidan Foochi and his

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Speaker 2: Troy Slayton joined me La veteran criminal defense attorney. Slayton

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Speaker 2: Lawyers APC Troy. So the recording devices are still rolling,

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Speaker 2: and this Aid and future h fourteen says, how's that's

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Speaker 11: So, firstly, there is no parent child confidentiality privilege known

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Speaker 2: I want to get your thinking, doctor Bethany Marshall, of

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Speaker 10: Fuci Well, I think this is not their first rodeo.

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Speaker 2: Well, doctor Bethany, I want you to hear something, and

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Speaker 2: that is how this guy, Aidan Fuci behaved in the

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Speaker 14: car before he was a suspect.

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Speaker 5: Golf cars when you see this in a month.

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Speaker 14: Another video from inside Fuci's home appears to show his

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Speaker 14: mother cleaning the genes police say Aiden wore the night

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Speaker 14: of the murder. She's been charged for tampering with evidence

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Speaker 14: to those Genes. Investigators say both the Jenes and the

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Speaker 14: sink she washed them in tested positive for blood.

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Speaker 2: Not only that in that cop car, he made a

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Speaker 2: statement having fun in an efing cop car. This guy

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Speaker 2: is in the back of the car mocking everything and

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Speaker 2: everybody I'm having found in an effing cock car. And

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Speaker 2: then he makes some comment like, hey, anybody's seen Tristan,

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Speaker 2: She's dead.

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Speaker 1: Prime Stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: After Tristan Bailey went missing that night, Aiden Fuchi even

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Speaker 2: volunteered to show sheriff and deputies where he had last

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Speaker 2: seen his little middle school classmate. What happened the night

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Speaker 2: Justin Bailey went missing? I mean, it is argued amongst

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Speaker 2: many legal eagles choice Lighton that his sick selfie in

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Speaker 2: a cup car shows that he's actually proud of murdering

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Speaker 2: cheerleader Justin Biley.

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Speaker 11: To me, Nancy, it shows the elements of not guilty

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Speaker 11: by reason of insanity, which in Florida uses the McNaughton rule.

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Speaker 11: If I were to use the evidence from the medical

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Speaker 11: examiner on this show and the testimony of doctor Bethany

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Speaker 11: Marshall from this show, we clearly establish, by clear and

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Speaker 11: convincing evidence that he was not guilty by reason of

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Speaker 11: insanity at the time that he committed this act.

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Speaker 2: Well, I couldn't disagree more because he he is in

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Speaker 2: a cop car saying, hey, guys, has anybody seen Tristan

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Speaker 2: Lightley shooting a peace sign, having fun in a cop car,

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Speaker 2: being a snarky brat.

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Speaker 11: That's iBOT somebody one hundred and fourteen times running from

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Speaker 11: the crime scene, throwing a knife into the water.

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Speaker 2: And then why do you think you threw the knife

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Speaker 2: in the water, Troy so nobody could find it? Why

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Speaker 2: is that because it's a murder weapon with his blood

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Speaker 2: on it.

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Speaker 11: But brings the sheath home, but comes home and just throws.

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Speaker 2: Away the murder weapon. And the only one Annel that

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Speaker 2: believes that shows evidence of guilt. I mean, someone jump in, Nancy.

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Speaker 10: He knew what he was doing, and mocking Tristan from

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Speaker 10: the police car is the same mo as the murder.

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Speaker 10: We were talking about it earlier in the show that

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Speaker 10: he wanted to triumph over her control her. He likely

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Speaker 10: got sexual satisfaction from killing her. I doubt this was

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Speaker 10: a frustrated rage. I think he was romancing the idea

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Speaker 10: of killing somebody for a long long time. I think

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Speaker 10: his family knew that. I think it was sexually exciting

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Speaker 10: to him. That's why he had the red crosses over

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Speaker 10: the woman's breasts and her arms severed. You know, he's

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Speaker 10: going to disable her so he can rape her.

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Speaker 2: That's what that filter is all about.

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Speaker 10: Well, you know that's what we call Troy. We call

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Speaker 10: the lingering. It's when you make up a fictitious illness

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Speaker 10: to look ill when you're not got.

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Speaker 2: More for you, guys. That bears on State as Mine.

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Speaker 2: Take a listen to our cut twenty six. This is

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Speaker 2: Danny Bozini Action News jacks.

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Speaker 14: New evidence giving us a glimpse into the moments before

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Speaker 14: and after love Thirteen year old Tristan Bailey was brutally murdered.

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Speaker 14: Please say, in this video, Kristen is walking with her

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Speaker 14: accused killer, fourteen year old Aiden Fuci, just after midnight Sunday,

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Speaker 14: May ninth, Mother's Day. Ninety minutes later, another surveillance video

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Speaker 14: shows Fuci running in the opposite direction with what appears.

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Speaker 2: To be his shoes in hand.

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Speaker 14: The State Attorney's office releasing another clip timestamped at three

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Speaker 14: point thirty am that same morning, you can see Fuci

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Speaker 14: walking up to his home, heading to the front door,

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Speaker 14: and going inside. Fuci initially told investigators that he left

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Speaker 14: a friend's house with Tristan and they walked together until

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Speaker 14: she turned onto her street. That story changed a few

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Speaker 14: more times. Okay, let me capsulize this, Karen Smith. We've

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Speaker 14: got him running from the scene, carrying his shoes that

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Speaker 14: were likely bloody, throwing away the murder weapon, slowing down

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Speaker 14: when he gets to his own home, walking in, chaining

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Speaker 14: his story multiple times, and continuing to lie about it

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Speaker 14: to me. All of that shows he knew what he

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Speaker 14: did was wrong.

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Speaker 2: And that is as Troy Slayton throws around the technical

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Speaker 2: turn the McNaughton tiss, it's very simple. Did you know

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Speaker 2: right from wrong at the time of the incident. It

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Speaker 2: shows me that's right, evidence of guilt, hiding, running, destroying evidence.

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Speaker 13: That's right. And guess what found found found knife was

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Speaker 13: found one hundred and forty feet away. The shoes were

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Speaker 13: found in his room likely bloody, that's why he was

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Speaker 13: carrying them. They found his gene, they found his clothes,

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Speaker 13: they found her DNA all over it, They found blood pattern,

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Speaker 13: they found his DNA on her body. They found the

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Speaker 13: tip of the knife embedded in her skull. Every single step,

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Speaker 13: every single thing that has been seen in the forensics

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Speaker 13: of this case shows me that he he had a premeditated,

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Speaker 13: murderous mind and he knew what he did was wrong.

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Speaker 13: He's running from the crime scene with evidence in his hands.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Tim Gallagher joining me out of Florida Medical Examiner

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Speaker 2: Dodger Gallagher. So he throws the murder weapon into a

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Speaker 2: body of water. How can they still get both his

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Speaker 2: and her DNA off the murder weapon.

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Speaker 12: Well, that's a really good question. You know, water does

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Speaker 12: tend to degrade DNA, So if they recovered it very quickly,

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Speaker 12: then it would certainly be possible, especially if not only

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Speaker 12: blood was on it, but the flesh of the victim

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Speaker 12: and flesh of the assailant was on there. Then DNA

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Speaker 12: could be recovered from that quickly.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, Noise, I have to jump in here. There was

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Speaker 13: another case out of Jacksonville, the Cherish Perrywinkle case. Where

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Speaker 13: one of my coworkers recovered a entire full thirteen LOKI

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Speaker 13: profiles from Cherish Perrywinkles after she was submerged in water,

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Speaker 13: So it is absolutely possible to find both steps of

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Speaker 13: DNA on that murder weapon.

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Speaker 2: After Tristan Bailly went missing that night, Aiden Fuci even

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Speaker 2: volunteered to show sheriff's deputies where he had last seen

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Speaker 2: his little middle school classmate, and it was there. Home

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Speaker 2: surveillance video picks up his mother picking up a pair

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Speaker 2: of blue jeans from her son's room, then scrubbing them

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Speaker 2: in a bathroom sink. Tristan Billy's mom, Stacy Billy, said,

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Speaker 2: in a very emotional victim impact statement, the choices the

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Speaker 2: mom Crystal Smith made back on Mother's Day twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: one quote will haunt me for the rest of my life.

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Speaker 2: She went on to say, I've tried to put myself

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Speaker 2: in your shoes on that fateful day a thousand times,

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Speaker 2: but I can't. She says, the damage you caused by

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Speaker 2: your actions will forever be etched in our lives. The

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Speaker 2: judge in the court room described Tristan's horrific injuries, including

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Speaker 2: forty nine defensive wounds, and thirty five wounds to the

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Speaker 2: little girl's head and neck, twenty nine wounds to her

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Speaker 2: shoulders and back. What was so upsetting to many is

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Speaker 2: that Tristan Bailly was conscious, She was aware, and she

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Speaker 2: was doing everything she could to fend off the attack.

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Speaker 2: When the family spoke, they pointed out that Tristan suffered

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Speaker 2: a painful, horrifying death from someone she trusted, that her

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Speaker 2: screams were most likely stifled by her own suffocating lungs.

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Speaker 2: The attack was so violent the tip of the hunting

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Speaker 2: knife future Ye used to murder her broke off in

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Speaker 2: her skull. The judge noted that the crime had no motive.

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Speaker 2: He the judge says, quote, there was no reason. There

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Speaker 2: was no purpose. It was done for no other reason

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Speaker 2: than to satisfy this defendant's internal desire to feel what

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Speaker 2: it was like to kill someone. Convict to kill her.

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Speaker 2: Aidan Fucci's own mother sentence for tampering with evidence and

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Speaker 2: cheerleader Tristan Bailey's horrific murder Crystal Smith has now been released.

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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace crime story signing off Goodbye Friend,