WEBVTT - Stop Saying Hoof! 

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the

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<v Speaker 1>George Washington Broadcast Center.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now,

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<v Speaker 2>here's Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 3>Kraft Mac and Cheese this week introduced Chili Crisp and

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<v Speaker 3>Cinnamon flavored versions. As in, sorry kids, all we have

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<v Speaker 3>left is Chili Crisp and Cinnamon flavored.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Pretty sure my kids do like the original Mac and

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<v Speaker 4>Cheese flavor. Chili Crisp or Cinnamon? Or is that and Cinnamon?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that two different flavors or is it mixed together?

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<v Speaker 4>Cinnamon Macaroni and Cheese. That sounds terrible, but I'm digging that.

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<v Speaker 2>Katie?

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<v Speaker 5>Do you think that these companies are releasing flavors like

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<v Speaker 5>this because they know people are going to have reactions

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<v Speaker 5>like we are and they're going to buy them and

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<v Speaker 5>do like a taste test online and it's like free

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<v Speaker 5>publicity for the company kind of thing?

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<v Speaker 4>My immediate reaction was, oh yeah, mac and cheese.

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<v Speaker 2>We love that.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe I'll make some of that, the original flavor. The

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<v Speaker 4>chili crisp sounds good. I really like Kraft macaroni and cheese.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so cheap. Who knows what's in it?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if a cow came within a million

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<v Speaker 4>miles of the cheese, but I like the flavor of it. Man,

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<v Speaker 4>you put some ketchup in there? That's some good eating,

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<v Speaker 4>aren't there? As I've said in.

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<v Speaker 2>Years past, I live downwind of the giant Kraft plant

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<v Speaker 2>in Champaign, Illinois, and it didn't smell like cheese, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>tell you that. Good Lord.

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<v Speaker 4>Speaking of restaurants, Outback Steakhouse is filing for bankruptcy, citing

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<v Speaker 4>labor costs in California. It's too expensive to keep the

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<v Speaker 4>doors open with having to hire employees in California.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, with the artificially high wages, yes. It also said.

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted to get the wording right because I kind

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<v Speaker 4>of liked it. Dwindling customers. That's a problem also.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that's an issue.

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<v Speaker 4>People don't like our food. But the labor costs also.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's not forget that. Which brings me to what Ted

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<v Speaker 4>Cruz said. I will tell you about Diogenes coming up.

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<v Speaker 4>It's another Greek philosopher Thursday on the Armstrong and Getty

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<v Speaker 4>show where we go back to an ancient Greek philosopher

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<v Speaker 4>and we give a little bit of a bio on it. No,

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<v Speaker 4>I came across this Diogenes guy who invented... He was

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<v Speaker 4>the original cynic in the term cynicism, which is a

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<v Speaker 4>completely different word than the way we use it now.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's pretty interesting. But his wife, holy crap, I

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<v Speaker 4>learned about it. Here's a little tease.

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<v Speaker 2>He lived in a barrel.

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<v Speaker 4>He lived in a barrel, and he defecated and did

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<v Speaker 4>other things in public.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, my.

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<v Speaker 4>You wouldn't think you could invent a philosophy that would

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<v Speaker 4>stick around for several thousand years with that lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 2>Did other things in public. I do other things in public.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. He masturbated in public. He made me say

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<v Speaker 2>the word.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>The time for you see how you're mumbling half truths.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you saw the midterms, right? It's time for

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<v Speaker 2>hard truths. That's what I say. I blame others. So

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<v Speaker 2>I got to believe a lot of....

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<v Speaker 4>Big time politicians who are giving speeches and putting out

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<v Speaker 4>long posts, it's because they're angling to run for president

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<v Speaker 4>or at least sniffing around. DeSantis, governor of Florida. Governor

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<v Speaker 4>Florida didn't lose a single statewide race from Republicans to Democrats.

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<v Speaker 4>Texas lost all of them. I mean, that's quite a

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<v Speaker 4>difference between two red states. One state lost every single

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<v Speaker 4>statewide race to Democrats. Ted Cruz is the only remaining

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<v Speaker 4>Republican because he wasn't up for reelection. He might have

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<v Speaker 4>lost two. Whereas in Florida, they hung on to all

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<v Speaker 4>of them. Yeah, that's quite the difference. But anyway, Ron DeSantis'

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<v Speaker 4>big speech, we'll play some of it a little bit later.

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<v Speaker 4>He gave his reasons, everything like that. We talked about J.D.

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<v Speaker 4>Vance last hour, and we'll be talking about that more later.

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<v Speaker 2>He's angling.

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<v Speaker 4>And I assume this post from Ted Cruz yesterday, and

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<v Speaker 4>he did a big thing on his podcast. Everybody says

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<v Speaker 4>he's looking at running for president, too.

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<v Speaker 2>He's angling. But I thought this was interesting information.

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<v Speaker 4>He's talking about why voters are so unhappy and how

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<v Speaker 4>bad the economy is. And some of these stats are amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just reading from Ted Cruz's. I think it's just

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<v Speaker 4>from his podcast yesterday and transcribed. Here are some stats

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<v Speaker 4>that are a lot more real and personal.

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<v Speaker 2>Spam.

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<v Speaker 4>Hormel's processed meat substitute. I don't know if I've ever

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<v Speaker 4>actually had spam.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a meat substitute. What is it? It's spam.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you eaten spam? I'm not sure if I have

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<v Speaker 2>or not.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Spam, Hormel's processed meat substitute, broke record sales, selling 113

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<v Speaker 4>million cans last year. That's nearly as much spam as

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<v Speaker 4>was sold during the entirety of World War.

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<v Speaker 1>II.

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<v Speaker 2>The spam index.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that's suggesting that people are eating more spam because

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<v Speaker 4>regular meat is so expensive, which certainly might be.

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<v Speaker 2>Regular meat is just insanely expensive. Jack, Classic Spam is

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<v Speaker 2>a canned, pre-cooked meat product made from just six core ingredients.

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<v Speaker 2>Number one, pork with ham, primarily chopped pork shoulder mixed

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<v Speaker 2>with ham cut from the hind leg.

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<v Speaker 1>Hoof.

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<v Speaker 2>Salt. What? Stop saying hoof. Salt, water, potato starch included

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<v Speaker 2>to bind the ingredients and absorb excess juices during cooking, sugar,

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<v Speaker 2>and sodium nitrate, a food preservative that keeps the meat

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<v Speaker 2>from spoiling and gives it a pink color. Okay. What

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<v Speaker 2>was that first thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Pork.

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<v Speaker 2>But from where? With ham. Shoulder and the hind leg,

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<v Speaker 2>the ham. Both the shoulder and the ham. Okay, gotcha.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, I guess the point is because hamburger and steak

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<v Speaker 4>and all that sort of stuff is so expensive, more

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<v Speaker 4>people are eating spam. I don't want to get hung

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<v Speaker 4>up on this. I didn't mean to do a deep

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<v Speaker 4>dive like it's Diogenes on spam.

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<v Speaker 2>I've found it fascinating.

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<v Speaker 4>29% of Americans have used buy now, pay later for

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<v Speaker 4>groceries this year. That's double from two years ago. Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>that's no good.

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<v Speaker 2>Double the number. Almost a third of people doing buy now,

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<v Speaker 2>pay later for groceries. I'm going to do a payment

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<v Speaker 2>plan for today's grocery run. It's a three-year payment plan.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on.

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<v Speaker 4>In August, banks repossessed 42% more homes than they did

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<v Speaker 4>last year. So this most recent month, they got numbers

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<v Speaker 4>for 42% more homes repossessed than a year ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of that is skyrocketing interest rates for people who

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<v Speaker 2>took variable rate. Is that the term? Variable rate mortgages?

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<v Speaker 2>It's that term. Six years ago. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>In 2024, car repossessions topped 2.3 million. That's above the

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<v Speaker 4>2009 peak in the middle of the great financial crisis.

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<v Speaker 2>That's something.

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<v Speaker 4>In 2025, 6% of 401k holders took hardship withdrawals paying

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<v Speaker 4>the penalties. That is a record and triple the normal number.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>6% of people took their money out of their 401k.

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<v Speaker 4>I do have some questions about this, but I'll finish

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<v Speaker 4>this first from Ted Cruz. Still bearded Ted Cruz.

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<v Speaker 5>Good.

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<v Speaker 4>Still heavier than when he ran last time by a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>He's an older man. Here's one that's really stunning, says

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<v Speaker 4>Ted Cruz. Americans made more than 75 million paid plasma

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<v Speaker 4>donations in 2026.

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<v Speaker 2>That's another record.

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<v Speaker 4>That means 200,000 Americans every single day with a needle

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<v Speaker 4>in their arm to pay for groceries. Now that's Ted

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<v Speaker 4>Cruz putting the worst spin on already troubling numbers, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's anecdotal.

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<v Speaker 4>Just looking around, are people doing buy now, pay later

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<v Speaker 4>on their groceries, getting their car repossessed, or donating plasma

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<v Speaker 4>to maintain a lifestyle that we all should cut back on?

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<v Speaker 4>Because restaurants and airports are still packed, and concerts and

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<v Speaker 4>ball games, and people have iPhones.

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<v Speaker 2>Consumer spending is up above the rate of inflation significantly. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Number one, a little political analysis. First of all, While J.D.

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<v Speaker 2>Vance is doubling down on the Jews on the mind crowd,

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<v Speaker 2>Ted appears to be thinking, all right, the blue collar

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<v Speaker 2>coalition that came together for Trump, the working class folks

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<v Speaker 2>who just care about kitchen table issues, that's my people.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going hard at them right now. Declaring his lane,

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<v Speaker 2>the Budweiser vote. I just made that up and it's

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<v Speaker 2>not very good. So, yeah, interesting. So I read this

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<v Speaker 2>from Neil Ferguson mentioned it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think that lots of people, the downturn has

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<v Speaker 4>caused them to go out and sell plasma.

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<v Speaker 2>To pay for their spam? Yes, clearly. The numbers are

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<v Speaker 2>right there.

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<v Speaker 4>How much do I get? And is it per gallon

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<v Speaker 4>per liter?

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<v Speaker 2>Gosh, I don't know. Nobody would want my plasma, so

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<v Speaker 2>I've never donated it.

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<v Speaker 4>If you know anything about donating plasma, text, because I

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<v Speaker 4>find that pretty interesting. How much do they pay you?

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<v Speaker 4>How often can you do it? Text line 415-295-KFTC. As

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<v Speaker 4>long as you can keep walking in, they'll take your plasma.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you pass out and crack your head. It's

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<v Speaker 4>probably time to take a break.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm feeling a little weak from yesterday, but I want

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<v Speaker 2>to buy these concert tickets. Right, exactly. So I mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>this very briefly at the end of yesterday's show, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure exactly what it means, but Neil Ferguson

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<v Speaker 2>was one of many folks from the free press, the

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<v Speaker 2>great Scottish historian, taking shots at what the election was.

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<v Speaker 2>meant and what it didn't mean and that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And the most interesting part of his screed to me

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<v Speaker 2>was he was saying the economy is not nearly as

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<v Speaker 2>bad as people seem to think. In September of this year,

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<v Speaker 2>CPI inflation was 3.72%. And the unemployment rate was 4.2%.

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<v Speaker 2>Added together, that gives you a misery index, a term

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<v Speaker 2>that was coined years and years ago, of 7.94%. and

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<v Speaker 2>compare that with the worst month since he was born

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<v Speaker 2>in 1964, May of 1980, 22 on the misery index,

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<v Speaker 2>22 inflation plus unemployment. Only a third of the months

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<v Speaker 2>since my birth, he writes, were better than this September.

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<v Speaker 2>That is hardly a disaster that merits a political, that

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<v Speaker 2>he uses a French word I've never seen in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet here we are.

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<v Speaker 1>So to.

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<v Speaker 4>Your point, By objective measures, is the economy really just

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<v Speaker 4>not great? But people are so addicted to a certain

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<v Speaker 4>lavish lifestyle that they're spending themselves into foreclosures and repossessions

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<v Speaker 4>and spam purchases and plasma donations. Isn't the obvious course

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<v Speaker 4>of action to just live a much simpler and down-to-earth lifestyle?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know exactly. I don't know that anybody knows

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<v Speaker 4>for certain.

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<v Speaker 2>And look, those of you out there who are picking

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<v Speaker 2>up your keyboard, it's probably just sitting there. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>need to pick it up. You've got pen in hand

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<v Speaker 2>writing us a blistering email. I scrimp and I save. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we know you do. You are out there. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people don't, though. Come on, go to Starbucks. We're

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<v Speaker 2>not indicting you. Get in the drive-thru at Starbucks.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody's in line for something you don't need to buy

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<v Speaker 4>at all. All day long, there's a line at every Starbucks,

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<v Speaker 4>and there's one on every block in every town in America.

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<v Speaker 2>People are in line to buy things they don't need

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<v Speaker 2>to buy at all. Right. For a ridiculous price. As

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<v Speaker 2>we used to say back in the day on the show,

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<v Speaker 2>if we're not talking about you, we're not talking about you.

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<v Speaker 2>We are talking about a lot of you, though. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of you are liars.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>Go target our audience. I won't have it.

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<v Speaker 4>You're as crazy as J.D. Vance.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody needs to rein you in.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of people pretend they don't have a $ 1, 200 iPhone.

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<v Speaker 4>Go to Starbucks once a day. Travel way more than

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<v Speaker 4>their parents do. Drive a way nicer car than their

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<v Speaker 4>parents did.

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<v Speaker 2>Giant house.

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<v Speaker 4>Have five different subscriptions.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't need them all. Lots of people do that.

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<v Speaker 2>My God, he's lost his mind. Michael, it's like we're

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<v Speaker 2>working with Diogenes here. Go back to your barrel, you madman.

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<v Speaker 2>Quit yelling at us. Go back to your barrel. Yes, Katie.

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<v Speaker 5>Joe, you knew exactly what you were doing when you

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<v Speaker 5>wind him up.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just so satisfying. That's true.

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<v Speaker 4>He winds me up, and then he's like, okay, I

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<v Speaker 4>got a few minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Drink some coffee. He just had a snack. About time

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<v Speaker 2>to yell at him to calm the hell down. Calm

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<v Speaker 2>the hell down! He completely walked away. Oh, he's still going?

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<v Speaker 2>I still got another minute. Relieved myself. Oh, boy. Not

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<v Speaker 2>in public, by the way. Okay. We will tell you

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<v Speaker 2>about Diogenes, among other things, on the way. Stay here.

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 3>President Trump criticized Democrats and said, quote, the Democrat Party

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<v Speaker 3>has nominated the most extreme and dangerous slate of candidates

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<v Speaker 3>in American history.

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<v Speaker 2>You mean James Tallarico?

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<v Speaker 3>He looks like he waited until he was 21 to

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<v Speaker 3>try seltzer.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a funny line. A woke Democratic soy boy sent

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<v Speaker 2>to the Senate from Texas. What do we got coming up?

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<v Speaker 2>Coming up, some people are saying, look at the woke

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<v Speaker 2>socialist lunatics elected to Congress. Others are saying moderate Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>clearly won the day. They're both right. We'll put it

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<v Speaker 2>into perspective for you, let you know a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of what to expect from the new Democratic majority. So

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<v Speaker 2>how did I get started on this yesterday? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>The idea of.

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<v Speaker 4>Coming out of election, thinking about cynicism, which by the

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<v Speaker 4>modern definition that we all use, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>that going on in politics and that sort of thing. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>how would you define cynicism in the modern way?

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<v Speaker 2>You're knee-jerk against everything. You're just kind of snarky.

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<v Speaker 4>And a certain amount of most people. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 4>is how it got started in around... think the year

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<v Speaker 4>200 or something like that um when it got remade

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<v Speaker 4>i'll go back to the original version of cynicism but

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<v Speaker 4>the modern version started with yeah all those people claiming

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<v Speaker 4>that they care about this and that in the world

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<v Speaker 4>and blah blah blah they're just they just say that

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<v Speaker 4>they're hypocrites they're all hypocrites none of them actually mean

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<v Speaker 4>it which is a very cynical view using the word

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<v Speaker 4>the way we use it now but it started with

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<v Speaker 4>this guy diogenes he's a greek philosopher and uh his

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<v Speaker 4>whole thing with cynicism at the time was um The

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<v Speaker 4>more stuff you have, the more stuff you'll want, and

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<v Speaker 4>you'll never be happy. And the only way to be

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<v Speaker 4>happy is to not care about stuff was basically his

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<v Speaker 4>thing for.

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<v Speaker 2>A long, long time.

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<v Speaker 4>He lived in a jar or a barrel, depending on

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<v Speaker 4>how you define the sort of thing, a big ceramic

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<v Speaker 4>jar in Greece. He lived in a big ceramic jar.

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<v Speaker 2>Whoa. Was it like turned on its side? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Or did he have to climb in and out of

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<v Speaker 4>the top? All the pictures show it turned on its side.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, you just kind of hang out in there.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I keep picturing, you know, various homeless people

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<v Speaker 4>and thinking, but he became very famous for this. He

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<v Speaker 4>walked around with a candle for a very long time.

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<v Speaker 4>And everybody's asking me, I'm looking for one honest man. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>that was one of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you're blowing my mind.

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<v Speaker 4>He lived with absolutely nothing. He begged, which I don't

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<v Speaker 4>get how that fits into any philosophy. You're counting on

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<v Speaker 4>other people to feel sorry for you to give you stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>I never get how that fits into a philosophy. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>he begged rather than worked because of blah, blah, blah.

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<v Speaker 4>But some of the funny things was he'd defecate in public.

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<v Speaker 4>He would masturbate in public because he just didn't believe

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<v Speaker 4>in any of the rules of society.

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<v Speaker 2>They're all phony and.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the most famous things he ever did is

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<v Speaker 4>Alexander the Great was aware of him, the most powerful

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<v Speaker 4>man in the world at the time, and came to

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<v Speaker 4>Diogenes and said, I could give you anything. If you

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<v Speaker 4>wanted one thing from me, what would it be? And

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<v Speaker 4>Diogenes said, get out of my light. You're standing in

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<v Speaker 4>the sun. Um, that's all, all he asked for him.

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<v Speaker 4>Plato defined man as a, a featherless biped and Diogenes

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<v Speaker 4>brought him a chicken that he had plucked and said, behold,

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<v Speaker 4>Plato's man or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, that's the founder of cynicism. They went down

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<v Speaker 2>to the village square and yanked it. Quite a fellow.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Diogenes. Lived in a barrel.

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<v Speaker 4>Some believe that he held his breath until he died

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<v Speaker 4>finally in old age.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And everybody around him said, good. Yeah. See you later.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Getty. We need to abolish ICE. There is

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<v Speaker 2>no reason for this institution to exist. I got one

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<v Speaker 2>goal here on Senate Island, and that's to pass Medicare

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<v Speaker 2>for all. And I'm not afraid to step on people's toes.

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<v Speaker 2>Our trans community needs abortion care too.

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<v Speaker 3>There are many more than two biological sexes.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, there are six.

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<v Speaker 1>We will not wait to abolish ICE and.

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<v Speaker 2>Pass Medicare for all. All right, shouting lefties, screeching about

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<v Speaker 2>their socialist nonsense.

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<v Speaker 4>I assume a whole bunch of young Democratic voters who

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<v Speaker 4>don't know any better because they haven't been through this

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<v Speaker 4>a million times like we all have. When Medicare for

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<v Speaker 4>all does not happen because they don't have the votes

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<v Speaker 4>to make it happen. And paying for it is a

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<v Speaker 4>pipe dream. It's like me buying a Learjet. But it

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<v Speaker 4>ain't going to happen in two years. It ain't going

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<v Speaker 4>to happen anytime soon. And there'll be disaffected voters the

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<v Speaker 4>next time around because they'll realize.

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<v Speaker 2>You made all these promises. Medicare for all. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it didn't happen. So I don't work my fingers to

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<v Speaker 2>the bone, but I read my eyes down to the

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<v Speaker 2>retina or something like that. And I've been plowing through

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<v Speaker 2>all sorts of takes on the Republican defeat, obviously, and

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<v Speaker 2>the Democratic win and what it might mean. And I

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<v Speaker 2>love Noah Rothman of the National Review. He's absolutely brilliant.

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<v Speaker 2>He's as serious as a heart attack, but a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of great insights. And his headline is Here Come the Socialists.

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<v Speaker 2>And he highlights quite a decent little cabal of cuckoo

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<v Speaker 2>birds that are joining the squad type. You know, name

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<v Speaker 2>check some of them. Yeah, so since.

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<v Speaker 4>NPR, and I think they mentioned there will be seven

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<v Speaker 4>actual DSA members. I mean, you've got people that are

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<v Speaker 4>DSA aligned, but actual DSA members. How do these DSA

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<v Speaker 4>members not have to answer questions about the platform? Your

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<v Speaker 4>platform says get rid of the presidency, for instance.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Constitution in general. What the hell? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got Milat Kiros, who's a woman from Colorado. She's

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<v Speaker 2>a longtime DSA maven. Her platform included nationalizing the private

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<v Speaker 2>health insurance industry, canceling all medical debt, slavery reparations, etc. Amazingly,

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<v Speaker 2>Rothman writes she did so while articulating almost verbatim Osama

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<v Speaker 2>bin Laden's logic for the September 11th attacks. Then you've

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<v Speaker 2>got Adam Hamaway of New Jersey. longtime associate of the

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<v Speaker 2>blind Sheikh. I've been reading about him in the Atlantic

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<v Speaker 2>of all places, the lefty Atlantic. Dude is down with Islamism.

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<v Speaker 4>100% hardcore political Islam needs to take over the globe.

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<v Speaker 2>More on him later. Pennsylvania's new third district representative, Chris Rabb,

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<v Speaker 2>will take office on the back of what he said

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<v Speaker 2>should be America's universal basic guarantees, among them health insurance,

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<v Speaker 2>food and water, public transportation, high-speed internet, child care, a job,

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<v Speaker 2>and an income, all of which should be guaranteed by

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<v Speaker 2>the government. Rabb flew under the national media's radar for

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<v Speaker 2>much of the campaign, except once when he claimed that

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<v Speaker 2>we all know that that 2025 massacre of Australian Jews

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<v Speaker 2>on Bondi Beach, remember that? He said, we all know

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<v Speaker 2>it was committed by attackers who were likely Zionists themselves.

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<v Speaker 5>Whoa.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's one of those guys. He got to Donovan McKinney,

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<v Speaker 2>was backed in Michigan, and a couple of other geeks. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>the delightful Daryliza Avila-Chavalier, the most dogmatic member of the

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<v Speaker 2>highly ideological cast from New York, who wants to seize

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<v Speaker 2>all property from landlords, etc.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what philosopher my current mindset fits in with.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe Diogenes. Maybe I'll start living in a barrel.

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<v Speaker 4>And doing my business in public.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Lord. But I've adopted the.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember hearing George Carlin say this many, many years ago,

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<v Speaker 4>the comedian George Carlin, the hippie comedian, that he just

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<v Speaker 4>found the world interesting. And he just like, hmm, that

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<v Speaker 4>person decides to be a suicide bomber and that person

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<v Speaker 4>decides to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>And what is going on there? And that's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>where I am now.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I will argue, this is what I do

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<v Speaker 4>for a living, for the things I think are the

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<v Speaker 4>right direction, but I am in a mode of, whether

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<v Speaker 4>it's AI or the politics or culture or whatever, just

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<v Speaker 4>kind of a, it's going to be interesting to watch this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, maybe it's age. Could be, could be age.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, speaking of the cynics, I was doing

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<v Speaker 2>a little reading during the commercial break. I so enjoyed

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<v Speaker 2>your introduction to the classical cynics. I discovered the original term, kynikos,

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<v Speaker 2>from the Greek means dog-like, and that was the insult

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<v Speaker 2>that people threw at them because they lived in the

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<v Speaker 2>streets like dogs, living in jars, pooping in public as

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<v Speaker 2>if they're in San Francisco. And they embraced the insult

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<v Speaker 2>and wore it proudly.

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<v Speaker 4>Right and so i didn't get to finish with oh

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<v Speaker 4>and then i'll finish.

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<v Speaker 2>My damn points about the democrats sorry back to you

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<v Speaker 2>there's a.

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<v Speaker 4>Point to this that i think will fit with that

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<v Speaker 4>so i didn't get to finish with the original diogenes

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<v Speaker 4>who invented cynicism everything like that the definition has changed

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<v Speaker 4>because a bunch of people who adopted kind of the

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<v Speaker 4>his worldview but not really they just wanted to do

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<v Speaker 4>the most lazy part and party but none of the

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<v Speaker 4>like actual um uh living a basic life of, of

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<v Speaker 4>only necessity that he, I shouldn't say preached because it

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't original. Yes, yes, exactly. And that's where cynicism came from.

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<v Speaker 4>People called those people because they're kind of just putting

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<v Speaker 4>on the idea of living a, uh, a life of, of, of, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>You don't need stuff and all that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>They were just lazy hippies who wanted to be drunk

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<v Speaker 4>all the time, which is a different thing. And so

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<v Speaker 4>that's where cynical came from. And it fits in with

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<v Speaker 4>the politics of the day, really, that term. Just a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of people who claim all kinds of things.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, you don't.

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<v Speaker 4>You just want to go to Washington, D.C. and end

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<v Speaker 4>up in power and enrich yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>OK, so back to the question of was the election

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<v Speaker 2>a sign of DSA lunatics on the march? Or was

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<v Speaker 2>it a victory of moderate Democrats? And the answer is yes.

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<v Speaker 2>It was both. There are absolutely more socialist lunatics who

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<v Speaker 2>are going to be in Congress. And some of the

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<v Speaker 2>down-ballot races and some of your blue places, mayoral races

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<v Speaker 2>and councils and stuff like that, the left is unquestionably

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<v Speaker 2>on the march. And even, you know, the Trump-Vance White

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<v Speaker 2>House has leaned way left compared to, you know, classical

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<v Speaker 2>Republican values. So the country's leaning left. looked at through

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<v Speaker 2>another lens though, taking a look at the Democrats sweeping

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<v Speaker 2>victory this week, where they gained many, many seats in

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<v Speaker 2>the house and a damn lot in the Senate. The

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<v Speaker 2>numbers aren't firmed up yet. We'll let you know when

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<v Speaker 2>they're final, but, um.

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<v Speaker 4>There were three, or where do I have those numbers?

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get it right. In short, the Blue

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<v Speaker 2>Dog Coalition, a caucus of moderate and conservative Democrats in

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<v Speaker 2>the House, announced on Wednesday that it had added at

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<v Speaker 2>least 14 members to its ranks, nearly doubling its size,

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<v Speaker 2>and other centrist groups, including the New Democrats and Problem Solvers,

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<v Speaker 2>strengthened their numbers substantially. I'm sorry, this is a long article,

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<v Speaker 2>and I couldn't highlight it because I didn't print it.

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<v Speaker 2>But among the seats that were flipped from red to blue,

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<v Speaker 2>the vast, vast majority were flipped to moderates, or at

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<v Speaker 2>least people doing a damn good imitation of moderates. And

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<v Speaker 2>it was a very, very few that were flipped by lefties. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>you might say, well, Joseph, any district that could be

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<v Speaker 2>flipped at all is going to be a fairly moderate district.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if it's flippable, it's not going to go

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<v Speaker 2>for a real lefty. And you're right. But in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of the energy and the this is our party dynamic,

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<v Speaker 2>the moderates absolutely have the upper hand over the firebrands

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<v Speaker 2>and will seek to either co-opt them or just tell

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<v Speaker 2>them to sit down and shut up.

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<v Speaker 5>Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely believe that. Yeah. Yeah. Make like Diogenes and

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<v Speaker 2>crawl into your jar, you maniac. That's what they'll say.

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<v Speaker 2>I just really enjoyed that conversation. Oh, I got some more.

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<v Speaker 4>People are texting with some great Diogenes quotes that I

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<v Speaker 4>left out.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll have to get to that next segment. Well, coming up,

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps next hour, the war among the MAGA grifters online

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<v Speaker 2>and podcasts and radio and whatever. of who's to blame and,

0:26:21.070 --> 0:26:24.550
<v Speaker 2>and it just, it's, well, they're all a bunch of grifters.

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<v Speaker 2>Not everybody who's a fan of Trump and his policies

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<v Speaker 2>as a grifter. Don't get me wrong, but you know

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<v Speaker 2>who I'm talking about. Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I could name check them pretty quickly. So coming up,

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<v Speaker 4>we got a bunch of different texts. Why spam sales

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<v Speaker 4>are up. Some Diogenes quotes that are really pretty interesting

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<v Speaker 4>to think about. And maybe the saddest text we've ever got.

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<v Speaker 2>And not in an.

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<v Speaker 4>Actual sad way. But we'll get to that coming up.

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<v Speaker 4>for how bad the economy is. It was kind of interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>I've got an interesting text from somebody explaining some of them.

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<v Speaker 4>The reason spam is up, spam sales are up so much,

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<v Speaker 4>is preppers. It's huge in the prepper community and the whole,

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<v Speaker 4>everything's about to fall apart. Getting ready for the end times,

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<v Speaker 4>either politically or religious wise. People are buying tons of spam.

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<v Speaker 2>Filipinos like spam too. I have that on very good authority.

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<v Speaker 4>This person says, Pulling money out of your 401k, a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of people are doing that because they think the

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<v Speaker 4>whole thing, everything's about to collapse, and they want cash,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's a proper thing also.

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<v Speaker 2>What the heck? Might be true. I don't have an idea.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you're not right, y'all. Well, I hope you're

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<v Speaker 2>not right.

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<v Speaker 4>It would be better that people are doing it for

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<v Speaker 4>that reason than the economy is so bad people need

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<v Speaker 4>to get into their 401ks.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, and then the plasma thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Plasma is up because it just caught on as a

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<v Speaker 4>thing among all the drug addicts everywhere that, oh, I

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<v Speaker 4>can just go sell my bodily fluids and get 10

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<v Speaker 4>bucks and then go buy everything I need to be

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<v Speaker 4>high for the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. That doesn't surprise me that that. Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>So that explains some of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Why be like Diogenes and give it away? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>not plasma, but you know what?

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<v Speaker 4>Back to Diogenes who lived in a barrel and defecated

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<v Speaker 4>in public and believed wanting stuff was the root of misery.

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<v Speaker 4>And one of the quotes I really liked was, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't remember if he was talking to Alexander the Great.

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<v Speaker 4>For some reason, he became famous, this Diogenes, in Greece

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<v Speaker 4>way back in the day. And he was even famous

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<v Speaker 4>with the most powerful man in the world, Alexander the Great.

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<v Speaker 4>But everybody knew about Diogenes and his thinking. Must be

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<v Speaker 4>one of those people you come across now and then

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<v Speaker 4>and just seem like sages, even though they seem kind

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<v Speaker 4>of wacky.

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<v Speaker 2>You kind of wonder what they think about various things. Yeah, sure.

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<v Speaker 4>Diogenes said, why do you do all this stuff you do,

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<v Speaker 4>conquering this, so that someday I can... What's the point

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<v Speaker 4>of it all? What are you going to do eventually?

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<v Speaker 4>So someday I can rest. Well, that's what I'm doing now,

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<v Speaker 4>and I didn't have to do anything. It's basically that,

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<v Speaker 4>which is... I thought about that for a while yesterday

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<v Speaker 4>with the whole.

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<v Speaker 2>You can do that much earlier in your life than

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<v Speaker 2>most people do. I am a man who craves leisure.

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<v Speaker 2>Depending on how much.

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<v Speaker 4>But if you get rid of the idea of what

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<v Speaker 4>level of stuff you need to have for the rest

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<v Speaker 4>of your life, which doesn't really do you that much good.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I don't know. That's a complicated one. Some

0:30:48.660 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 4>of the Diogenes quotes that people were texting. Alexander asked

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<v Speaker 4>why Diogenes was looking at a pile of bones. Diogenes said,

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<v Speaker 4>I cannot tell the difference between the bones of your

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<v Speaker 4>father and those of a slave.

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<v Speaker 2>In other words, we're all going to end up in

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<v Speaker 2>the same spot. Totally get it.

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<v Speaker 4>And this is a quote, and nobody knows if these

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<v Speaker 4>are all true or all apocryphal or whatever. There was

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<v Speaker 4>a guy named Diogenes, but all kinds of stuff attributed

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<v Speaker 4>to him. Alexander said after talking to the philosopher, if

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<v Speaker 4>I were not Alexander, I would want to be Diogenes,

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<v Speaker 4>which is an interesting thing for him to decide. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>you run into somebody who's perfectly happy without stuff, and

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<v Speaker 4>you do feel a little bit of a, aw.

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<v Speaker 2>Why am I not doing that?

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<v Speaker 4>Is he really doing that? It seems like he actually

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<v Speaker 4>means it.

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<v Speaker 2>Aw. Are you actually happy? You seem happy. That's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>There's greats of Thebes. I read that. I didn't know it.

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<v Speaker 2>And it strikes me as very Buddhist philosophy as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously, it's. The line of thinking is endured

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<v Speaker 2>through the ages. Yeah, it's troubling.

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<v Speaker 4>I was watching this hilarious video about Diogenes yesterday, and

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<v Speaker 4>the guy ended with, so that next seems like a

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<v Speaker 4>crazy homeless person you pass on the street might be

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<v Speaker 4>a brilliant philosopher, or maybe a crazy person, so I'd

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<v Speaker 4>bring a knife. And then I promised the saddest text

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<v Speaker 4>that maybe we've ever gotten. This is the whole text.

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<v Speaker 4>Depressed and gloomy, plus I think I'm fading away.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's poetry. What is that? Any idea how I

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<v Speaker 2>should react to that, Michael? Is that like the first

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<v Speaker 2>line of an air supply song? No, is that a

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<v Speaker 2>call for help?

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<v Speaker 4>Should I do a wellness check at this phone number? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it might be the first lines of a Dylan song.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting cry for help. Depressed and gloomy, plus I

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<v Speaker 2>think I'm fading away? What is that? That's a good line.

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<v Speaker 4>What should I text back?

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<v Speaker 2>Sup? Just the letter K. No, I'm just kidding. Don't

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<v Speaker 2>do that. LOL. A thumbs up emoji. LOL. Lots of love.

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<v Speaker 2>The thumbs up emoji. How about, hey, dot, dot, dot,

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<v Speaker 2>I have problems too. Oh, okay. I like that one.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that. Oh, depressed and... You know, God dang it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you've started me thinking about the whole Diogenes thing. And,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, how much stuff do we really need? Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>my God. That's not new. Every day.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, how much stuff do you need? We all know this.

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<v Speaker 4>How much stuff do you need? You need enough to

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<v Speaker 4>eat and shelter that's safe.

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<v Speaker 2>Beyond that... Very little. Yeah, and you need enough that

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<v Speaker 2>when you're retired, you can continue to do that and

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<v Speaker 2>pay for medical care. Right, obviously. There's that, until my

0:33:53.270 --> 0:33:56.360
<v Speaker 2>socialist friends get Medicare for all going for all of mankind,

0:33:57.280 --> 0:34:02.040
<v Speaker 2>including illegal immigrants and transgender murderers. But, yeah, I was...

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<v Speaker 2>I was exhausted mentally from following the election and the

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<v Speaker 2>commentary and the posts, you know, the autopsies and the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of it. I went for a walk on the

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<v Speaker 2>beach and watched the waves crash. And I was as

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<v Speaker 2>happy as I've been in a very long time. And

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<v Speaker 2>that was as simple a pleasure as there is just

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<v Speaker 2>looking at God's creation.

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<v Speaker 4>Period.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it. So maybe old the D-man had it going on.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't think I'll give away everything

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<v Speaker 2>I have just to make sure.

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<v Speaker 4>It's difficult in that pretty much our entire economy is

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<v Speaker 4>built on not that philosophy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, that's y'all's problem.

0:34:42.430 --> 0:34:46.069
<v Speaker 4>This bigger house, this newer car, these different pants, this

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<v Speaker 4>nicer restaurant. Almost our entire economy is built on convincing

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<v Speaker 4>us our whole lives that that is true.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm headed back to the beach. I might stop

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<v Speaker 2>and poop on the way, right there on the sidewalk.

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<v Speaker 4>Get yourself a bigger jar. That's what Diogenes probably needed,

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:06.080
<v Speaker 4>was a bigger jar to live in. But you can

0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:08.500
<v Speaker 4>step out of that anytime you want. Nobody's stopping you.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what? I don't care about any of those things.

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<v Speaker 2>You all knock yourself out, have your fun. I'm not

0:35:13.300 --> 0:35:15.399
<v Speaker 2>even criticizing you, but I'm going to live like this

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<v Speaker 2>over here. You know my philosophy, which I've never really

0:35:18.780 --> 0:35:25.350
<v Speaker 2>put together in a coherent way, which is... Understand how

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<v Speaker 2>much of what you do is based on certain assumptions,

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<v Speaker 2>and then look at those assumptions. It's like everybody's making

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<v Speaker 2>themselves absolutely freaking miserable on social media, for instance. Why

0:35:39.410 --> 0:35:44.109
<v Speaker 2>are you doing that? Because Mark Zuckerberg designed something that

0:35:44.190 --> 0:35:46.270
<v Speaker 2>teases your brain into doing it and doing it and

0:35:46.290 --> 0:35:50.690
<v Speaker 2>doing it? Question all your assumptions all the time. But

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<v Speaker 2>don't work it in front of me, please.

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<v Speaker 4>I got this example in my head today. I saw

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<v Speaker 4>what somebody else's house looks like on the inside getting

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<v Speaker 4>ready for Christmas. And I was like, my kids are

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<v Speaker 4>living in a hellhole compared to what I should be doing.

0:36:10.930 --> 0:36:15.090
<v Speaker 4>This is their only childhood. And I've been living with

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<v Speaker 4>that for like the last 18 hours.

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<v Speaker 2>And my house is big enough that the family is

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<v Speaker 2>going to gather for Thanksgiving and we can almost all

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<v Speaker 2>of us stay here.

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<v Speaker 4>And that brings me joy. So could they fit in

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<v Speaker 4>a jar?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm strong and getty.