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Speaker 1: And we welcome you into another week. Is this week

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Speaker 1: ten or week eleven of being in Quarantine. It's number

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Speaker 1: ten Week ten of the best podcast available Quarantine. Addition,

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Speaker 1: for a Tuesday, the nineteenth of May two thousand and twenty,

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Speaker 1: Jason Gibbs Andrew Gribble, We've got a loaded up podcast

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Speaker 1: for you today. Eric at home, NFL analyst draft analysts

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Speaker 1: few minutes. The Z that stands for Zi Girl. I

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Speaker 1: put together a fun little thing involving all the the

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Speaker 1: top draft picks from the past decade. I'm gonna ask

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Speaker 1: say the least. I want to thank you for coming

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Speaker 1: on board on this Tuesday. Gribbs, I hope you had

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Speaker 1: also dealing with some of that as well, but not

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Speaker 1: The virtual off seasons are all underway. We're all waiting

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Speaker 1: The latest news from the National Football League Chargers head

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Speaker 1: coach Anthony Lynn said they looked at Cam Newton, but

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Speaker 1: they liked the quarterbacks that they had, Gribble, the quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: Been doing it for a long time. He's very good

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Speaker 1: Been doing this for a long time, and we appreciate

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Speaker 1: because you know, I felt like talking to people around

431
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Speaker 1: the league, they said he because of his athletic skill,

432
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Speaker 1: he had a chance to go in the top hunter.

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Speaker 1: I ended up moving him back a little bit um

434
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Speaker 1: and he went a little later than I suspect that

435
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Speaker 1: I still fought even in this great class wide receivers,

436
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Speaker 1: he'd go higher. He's the ultimate wild card, Right, you

437
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Speaker 1: see a guy who's incredibly talented, who just didn't produce

438
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Speaker 1: the way you'd expect with somebody with that kind of ability.

439
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Speaker 1: So he's one that it's hard to figure. I didn't

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Speaker 1: I didn't love the Jacob Phillips pick, but I think

441
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Speaker 1: he's a pretty good little player. Like I just meant

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Speaker 1: that I would have liked it maybe a little bit

443
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Speaker 1: later in the draft. I had no issue with it,

444
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Speaker 1: but Harrison Bryant to me, it's kind of fascinating. I

445
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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's ever going to be special,

446
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Speaker 1: but Anybodyeah, I'm sure there's some Ohio State fans there

447
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Speaker 1: who watched him in the in the game early last

448
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Speaker 1: season and said, who's this guy? You know, he made

449
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Speaker 1: some some spectacular catches in that game. You know, he

450
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Speaker 1: won the Mackey Award, which for a player from that

451
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Speaker 1: level of competition is is pretty darn impressive. Um. Now,

452
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Speaker 1: don't get confused. I don't think he's ever gonna be

453
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Speaker 1: a great inline blocker, but it gives the effort you want.

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Speaker 1: I think you'll contribute on special teams. He's got good

455
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Speaker 1: hands and could be a very good number two. And

456
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Speaker 1: as we know, you know it sounds like Kevin Spansky

457
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Speaker 1: wants that kind of two tight end unit to you know,

458
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Speaker 1: to really kind of diversify the offense and give as

459
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Speaker 1: many looks as possible. So I I get it. I

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Speaker 1: understand why they picked him, and I think that that

461
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Speaker 1: choice may up being a pretty savvy when we look

462
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Speaker 1: back in a couple of years. Eric, you mentioned you're

463
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Speaker 1: in the Jordan Elliott fan club, and I know that

464
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Speaker 1: it seems like he has a very There's a certain

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Speaker 1: group of people who just loved this guy, and I

466
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Speaker 1: want to know what's the reason why outside of the

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Speaker 1: Missouri ties. I mean, it seems like p f F

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Speaker 1: had him in the top twenty five, but what what

469
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Speaker 1: about him really stands out to certain people and are

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Speaker 1: really high on him for that? Yeah, I mean other

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Speaker 1: than attending the greatest university in the world, of course,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think his quickness off the ball is

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Speaker 1: something that's really impressive. And here's a player who was

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Speaker 1: playing more in the three three D twenty five range

475
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Speaker 1: at one point. Was a little bit of you know,

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Speaker 1: disappointment at Texas transfers to Missouri, even though he was

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Speaker 1: the scout team m v P. I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of the coaches felt like that first year he still

479
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Speaker 1: needed to sculpt his body. Um. And as he did it,

480
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Speaker 1: and as he learned to play in his new frame

481
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Speaker 1: a little bit, he saw a player by the end

482
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Speaker 1: of the two thousand and eighteen season that was the

483
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Speaker 1: most unblockable player on that entire defense. So that was

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Speaker 1: a pretty you know, encouraging sign heading into last season. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, you see the big, long arms, the huge hands,

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Speaker 1: the quickness off the snap. Um, you know, he can

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Speaker 1: bench press guys back into the backfield. For me, that

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Speaker 1: the play to play consistency is really the biggest issue

489
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Speaker 1: right there. You'll see him get high and get easily blocked.

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Speaker 1: Give the the you know, the lineman a good target

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Speaker 1: to block. You'll see him kind of you know, take

492
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Speaker 1: unusual angles to the ball and get himself out of gaps.

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Speaker 1: So there's still a little bit of a discipline thing

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Speaker 1: that needs to be taught with him. Um. You know,

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Speaker 1: there were some people who said that he had a

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Speaker 1: little growing up to do at one point. It seems

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Speaker 1: like he's kind of come around on that somewhat. I know,

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Speaker 1: not all teams were completely you know, signing off on

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Speaker 1: him in that regard, but you know, I think that

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Speaker 1: that's what was it the pick or something? Overall? I

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Speaker 1: think it's absolutely a great dart throw at that point,

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Speaker 1: because if he gets to use that length and that power,

503
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Speaker 1: that natural quickness of power that few linemen have, he

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Speaker 1: can harness that. I think, you know, it something that

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Speaker 1: kind of Sheldon Richardson sphere a little bit as far

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Speaker 1: as impact, you know, I I know Sheldon's a hot

507
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Speaker 1: and cold player too, but you guess to that level

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Speaker 1: he'll be well worth that pick, no question about it.

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Speaker 1: At home, our guest NFL draft analysts from Yahoo Sports.

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Speaker 1: What else surprised your big picture from this draft other

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Speaker 1: than if you're a fan of the Green Bay Packers,

512
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Speaker 1: you're figuring out what the hell your team was doing,

513
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Speaker 1: and then the Eagles of course taking your quarterback and

514
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Speaker 1: getting all kinds of news on day two taking the

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Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. Uh, one up and you here hold

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Speaker 1: my beer while I do this. Uh. Your thoughts on

517
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Speaker 1: the on a crazy draft weekend? All done remotely? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: First of all, just the production was incredible. I thought,

519
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Speaker 1: you know, to kind of merge the networks and you know,

520
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Speaker 1: give people a distraction they needed. I didn't get to

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Speaker 1: watch round one because we were doing our our live

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Speaker 1: broadcast that night, but watching pretty much every selection from

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Speaker 1: around you to seven, I was just so blown away

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Speaker 1: at the production. And I have to feel like they're

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Speaker 1: gonna incorporate more aspects of that even when things return

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Speaker 1: to normal and you guys get to kind of host

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Speaker 1: the draft, so we'll see. I'll be fascinating to see

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Speaker 1: what the changes are going forward. But as far as

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Speaker 1: the football stuff, I mean, I get why people are

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Speaker 1: are confused and Philly in Green Bay to suppose it

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Speaker 1: contenders why they would take quarterbacks. But I also think

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Speaker 1: in this offseason, you know, given everything we're kind of

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Speaker 1: up against here, you know, especially with young head coaches

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Speaker 1: or new head coaches, you know the fact that there

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Speaker 1: could be a quarterback injury and really kind of set

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Speaker 1: yourself back without the you know, the full offseason program,

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Speaker 1: we may end up looking back at those picks and

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Speaker 1: saying they were smart. Is it? Is it tough to

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Speaker 1: reason with now? Yes? Maybe, but I think you know,

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Speaker 1: if if either one of those guys pans out, they'll

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Speaker 1: be well worth where they ended up being taken. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, big picture, quarterback was a interesting lot. Offensive

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Speaker 1: tackle was great running back. I thought there was some

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Speaker 1: real skill wide receiver, great depth, maybe not the high

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Speaker 1: end talent that everybody thought. And you know, there were

546
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Speaker 1: just certain positions that were lacking interior, offensive line, tight end,

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Speaker 1: you know. So for the Browns to get like Nick

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Speaker 1: Harris and Um Bryant where they did, I think was

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Speaker 1: pretty darn good considering those positions were considered pretty weak

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Speaker 1: coming into the draft. And for the most part, I

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Speaker 1: think it showed that. Specifically, what do you think about

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Speaker 1: the n f C North and which teams improved themselves

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Speaker 1: or maybe which teams didn't use this this draft in

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Speaker 1: the best way. Yeah, I mean, the Steelers obviously got

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Speaker 1: a lot of value with the Minka Fitzpatrick trade before

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Speaker 1: they ever got here, and of course the Deon Bush

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Speaker 1: trade also affected this draft too, and they did pretty

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Speaker 1: well for themselves. I mean, other than that, a couple

559
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Speaker 1: of picks, I didn't really have too many gribes that

560
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Speaker 1: like Chase Claypool. I think some of the other choices

561
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Speaker 1: they may were pretty smart, but the Baltimore Ravens, to me,

562
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Speaker 1: really made home run pick after home run pick. And

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Speaker 1: I know you probably don't want to hear that, but

564
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Speaker 1: you know, you take a strong team and you add

565
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: the amount of talent they did at you know, receiver

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Speaker 1: obviously with Devin Duverne and James prusche Prochet, you know,

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Speaker 1: linebacker with Patrick Queen, and some of the other selections

568
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Speaker 1: like Billy Harrison there as well. You know, they doubling

569
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Speaker 1: up in positions isn't always a smart thing to do,

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Speaker 1: but it is in this case because they're different styles

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Speaker 1: of players, I think. So, you know, it was really

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Speaker 1: fascinating to see how they just went round by round

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Speaker 1: and found talent um and even got a pretty good

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Speaker 1: trade I think with New England get extra ammo as well.

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Speaker 1: So hard not to love what they did. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I think overall the a f C North teams did

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Speaker 1: really well for themselves. I was, I was pretty impressed.

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Speaker 1: They were among you know, division wise, they were amongst

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Speaker 1: some of my higher grades that I gave out. Erica,

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Speaker 1: will let you go with this, um your thoughts on

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Speaker 1: where this league goes and what this league looks like. Uh,

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Speaker 1: come August and even September when we're all supposed to

583
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: kick off and uh, your your thoughts, what you guys

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Speaker 1: have heard and what what may or may not happen

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Speaker 1: here in two twenty. Yeah, it's obviously really hard to say.

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Speaker 1: And I think as we're seeing sports slowly return, you know,

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Speaker 1: the Korean baseball, the Bundesliga soccer. You know, we had

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Speaker 1: a race yesterday, We've had a golf event now, you know,

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Speaker 1: as we slowly kind of ramp up and see how

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Speaker 1: those events work, and you know, obviously there aren't fans

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Speaker 1: at these things, and you know, we're gonna slowly have

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Speaker 1: to reintroduce the idea of putting you know, butts and seats,

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Speaker 1: so to speak. But you know, the NFL has an

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Speaker 1: advantage that a lot of these other sports leagues don't

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Speaker 1: in that they still have a lot of time on

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Speaker 1: their side. And look, realistically, are we getting you know,

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Speaker 1: a cure or or some sort of vaccine but before

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Speaker 1: between now and then, probably not. You know, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to decide what we're willing to live with and

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Speaker 1: what the data is showing, you know, our cases going down,

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Speaker 1: our hospitalization is going down, our desk going down. I

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Speaker 1: think the NFL will consider all this, but they could

603
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: pretty darn steadfast with their idea of you know, the

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Speaker 1: league is kicking off September ten, and here's how the

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Speaker 1: schedule is, even if we've built in this flexibility here

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Speaker 1: to alter it if we need to. So, you know,

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Speaker 1: they've had an aggressive approach, They've had a confident approach.

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Speaker 1: But I think they've also you know, been smart enough

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Speaker 1: with it in the sense that they know they're willing

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Speaker 1: to adapt if they if they have to. I have

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Speaker 1: no idea, of course, because we don't know what the

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Speaker 1: health conditions are going to be. But I wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: shocked at a full season where we we slowly start

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Speaker 1: to see the integration of of larger amounts of fans

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Speaker 1: into stands. By the end of the season of things

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Speaker 1: keep going well. Yeah, I hope we all. I mean

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Speaker 1: that's we need games, and I think we're gonna get games.

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Speaker 1: The question is going to be, you know, fans are

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Speaker 1: no fans, So we'll see how this all plays out.

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Speaker 1: Will be interesting over the next couple of months. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate a few minutes at your time today. All my

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Speaker 1: best to you and your family. We hope you stay healthy.

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Speaker 1: Twin five year olds. Thank god I have a high schooler,

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Speaker 1: because I don't think I could handle that. Gribble's got

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Speaker 1: to gribble. I think your oldest is three. Okay wow yeah, yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: thank you. You guys do whatever you need to do.

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Speaker 1: I'm out. Yeah, So thank you for the time continued success.

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Speaker 1: Follow him on Twitter at Eric underscore at Home. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate it and look forward to continuing to read your

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Speaker 1: stories and articles here on Yahoo as we get closer

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Speaker 1: to season Alright, pleasures mine. Thank you so much again,

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Speaker 1: thanks to Eric at Home from Yahoo Sports for his

633
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Speaker 1: time great read on Yahoo dot com, and continue to

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Speaker 1: follow him through the offseason. He'll start putting together everything,

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Speaker 1: by the way, for the NFL Draft sooner rather than later.

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Speaker 1: Hard to believe, but uh, he has a tough task

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Speaker 1: in front of him. To say the least, a good

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Speaker 1: joins us. Yeah, so what's up boys, how you guys

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Speaker 1: doing it? You know, trying to stay dry, trying to

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Speaker 1: figure out if our Bay Smiths are gonna flood or

641
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Speaker 1: for our houses are gonna flood again anytime soon. But

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Speaker 1: we're surviving and advancing. Let's get done with this. Let's

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Speaker 1: get done with this rain. And by the way, it's

644
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Speaker 1: it's it's a b p A happy birthday to you

645
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Speaker 1: over the weekend. Give a thank you, youthful. Yeah, it

646
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: was it was a weird one. You know, you get

647
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: everybody it's like, hey, we'll get together, We'll get together.

648
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, what is that really gonna happen? Well, I

649
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: appreciate it. It's like I hope it happens sooner rather

650
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: than later. So say, yeah, we'll kind of see how

651
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: things all play out. Z gribble, gribble, by the way,

652
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: sporting gribble. You gotta show it. It's the old school

653
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: Sonic shirt. I'm here. I'm here to defend that team's honor.

654
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: Just a bit. It was not rightfully portrayed. I would

655
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: say in the last dance. No, actually did a pretty

656
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: good job. He did a pretty good job on George

657
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: to be dismissed to the way it was. It was

658
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: just so flippantly dismissed. I mean, come on, like, at

659
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: least concede a little bit that he made your life difficult. Yeah,

660
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: and traded like an afterthought, like he didn't even he

661
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: wasn't even on that team. One of my greatest jersey

662
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: ownings was I had one of those Sonics jerseys reversible

663
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: Gary Peyton jersey. Oh I don't see those? Was it

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Speaker 1: green and white or green and red? Green? Green? And white,

665
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: green and white. Oh yeah, gribble, Where the hell does

666
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Speaker 1: one get when you were a ute? Yeah? That was

667
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: because it was that was a darker period in Calves fandom.

668
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: I would say, not not the greatest Calves years, that

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Speaker 1: the Sonics are my other team, and I was, I'm

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Speaker 1: one of these people that had to come around to

671
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's post career. I didn't like him when he played.

672
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: He always beat my favorite team every year. So it

673
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: was I was, I was rooting against Michael Jordan in

674
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: all I would say, I wasn't old enough to really

675
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: root for anyone in the Lakers one, but I was

676
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: rinding against him in all five of those finals that

677
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: he won. After that, I was, I was. It was

678
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: a it was a rough that's a rough place to be. Yeah, no,

679
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: I totally agree he was. He was public enemy number two.

680
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: Public enemy number one was John Elway, but public enemy

681
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 1: number two was Michael Jordan. They were like one A

682
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: and one bat. The Calves had a finals worthy team

683
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: in those for those those fears that were just taken

684
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: away by by Jordan. I mean, there was just no

685
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:40,439
Speaker 1: no chance. Yeah, no, I agree, I agree, I don't.

686
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see. I mean, I guess ESPN's

687
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: next big thing is the McGuire Sosa deal. But the

688
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: last dance was pretty spectacular. I don't care if it

689
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: it's only Jordan's point of view, and you know, they're

690
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 1: very little talked about in terms of Charlotte and Washington.

691
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: People were like, well, it's super one sided. Yeah, okay, fine.

692
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: It was a pretty entertaining ten hours in my life,

693
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Speaker 1: and I was totally fine with it. So all right, Uh,

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Speaker 1: let's get to the business of the National Football League.

695
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Speaker 1: NFL dot Com last week ranked the decades number one

696
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: draft picks. My task for you both today is to

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00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 1: rank and discuss the draft picks number one draft picks

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00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 1: from the past decade. Sam Bradford in two thousand and ten,

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton in two thousand and eleven, Andrew Luck in twelve,

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00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 1: Eric Fisher in thirteen, Clowney in fourteen, Jamis Winston in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and fifteen, Jared Goff in sixteen, Miles Garrett

702
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: in seventeen, Baker Mayfield in eighteen, and Kyler Murray in

703
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Speaker 1: two thousand and nineteen. I don't know if it's easier

704
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Speaker 1: because we can't write it down to go from ten

705
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 1: to one or one to ten. How would you guys

706
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Speaker 1: like to start? Where would you like to start? Are

707
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Speaker 1: we are we picking apart this article because there's one

708
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Speaker 1: get off my lawn moment right away with this guy's ranking.

709
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 1: That's fine, So I can go through. I can read

710
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Speaker 1: you the rankings he does in NFL dot com. He's

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Speaker 1: got Cam Newton number one. He's got Luck number two,

712
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: Miles three, Kyler four, Golf five, Clowney six, Baker seven,

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Speaker 1: Winston eight, Eric Fisher nine, and Sam Bread for number ten. Gribble.

714
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Speaker 1: Go ahead, let's start dissecting this guy's rank. I mean

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray at number four already, like, come on there,

716
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: there's not nothing there yet. I mean he was, he

717
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: was all right, and they want a few games like

718
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: let's let's he needs to be he needs to be

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Speaker 1: further down until further Notice that that was just my

720
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: immediate reaction from that. There's been a lot of anointing

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Speaker 1: of him. Yeah, listen, if this thing was written after

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Speaker 1: the two thousand eighteen season, Baker probably number three on

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Speaker 1: this list and so and then now he's all the

724
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Speaker 1: way when it's seven because of one year. So for

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00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, yeah, he had. He showed you some promise

726
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: and it's a projection, but it's up. I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: It's absurd. And the fact that Jared Goff, who has

728
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Speaker 1: taken his team to a super Bowl, which is really

729
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Speaker 1: what you are tasked to do as a number one

730
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Speaker 1: draft pick, is fifth is insane to me. Jared Goff

731
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Speaker 1: should absolutely be third on this list. It should go

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Speaker 1: Cam Luck. And you can debate Cam and Luck how

733
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Speaker 1: you want to do it, but then it's got to

734
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Speaker 1: be Jared Goff third. He took a seam to Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: That's what you're supposed to do as the number one five.

736
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of it's a it's a hot thing

737
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Speaker 1: to hate on goth totally, and I think he gets

738
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Speaker 1: too much hate. I just don't think it's not fair.

739
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Speaker 1: He's he's he's he's been good, he's been Is he

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Speaker 1: is he elite? Is he one of the top five

741
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the NFL? No, but clearly he's a good quarterback.

742
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Speaker 1: He can make throws, he can put points on the board,

743
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Speaker 1: he takes care of the football, he's solid. Like I said,

744
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Speaker 1: he took a seam to a super Bowl. Did they

745
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: win it? No? They did not, But the fact that

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Speaker 1: he would be fifth behind a rookie who finished well

747
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Speaker 1: behind him in his own division a year ago is

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Speaker 1: after one year put his fourth is nuts. And and

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Speaker 1: I love Miles. I think Miles would be the first

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Speaker 1: non quarterback on my list, but I think Miles would

751
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Speaker 1: be fourth. I think GOP's got to be third because,

752
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Speaker 1: like I said, he took his team to a super Bowl,

753
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Speaker 1: and then he got a bunch of guys who are

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Speaker 1: not even with the teams that drift. That's why Bradford's

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Speaker 1: attend Jamis. I won't even as much as I love Jamis,

756
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Speaker 1: I won't even really argue where he's ranked on this one,

757
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: per se because you still have the unknowns with Baker

758
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Speaker 1: and Kyler as quarterbacks to have their franchises want to

759
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: stick with them, which would put them ahead of them.

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Speaker 1: As far as I'm concerned. I think Fisher at nine

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Speaker 1: as a joke too. I mean, first off, the guy

762
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Speaker 1: has been a starter for how many years now, in

763
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: the eight, eight or nine years? Uh. And secondly, the

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Speaker 1: degree of difficulty in that draft to make him the

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Speaker 1: number one pick has to be taken into consideration. There

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Speaker 1: was no one else really worthy. You mean it was that.

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Speaker 1: That's that that's a good pick in that in that year.

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Speaker 1: I mean, who are you picking over that guy? I

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Speaker 1: think it's turned not fine. That was just such a

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Speaker 1: bad draft. It was a bad draft. So the degree

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Speaker 1: of difficulty goes up for that number one pick. And

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Speaker 1: I mean I I would maybe rank him at this point.

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Speaker 1: I would definitely put him ahead of Winston, and I

774
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Speaker 1: maybe put him ahead of Clowney. I would put him

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Speaker 1: ahead of Cloune is a three time pro bowler, and

776
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Speaker 1: the Clowney. I know that he doesn't have a double

777
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: digit sax season yet, but he's still been very, very good.

778
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Speaker 1: He disrupts the game and much more I would say

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Speaker 1: than Fisher did. I mean, if you're looking from that draft, honestly,

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Speaker 1: to me, if they were going tackle, you take Lane Johnson, right,

781
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: I mean, in his looking back on it, with the

782
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Speaker 1: benefit of hindsight, Lane Johnson was the fourth pick. He

783
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: was easily the best pick in the top ten. I

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Speaker 1: mean easily Lane Johnson. All right, So the girl, going

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Speaker 1: off of your logic, can you make the argument that

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Speaker 1: Golf should be ranked higher than Andrew Luck Should he

787
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Speaker 1: be righting number two? Because he did take his team

788
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Speaker 1: to a Super Bowl. I think Andrew Luck. Obviously he

789
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: got to the NFC Championship game against those good New

790
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: England teams. This team was better every year that he

791
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: was there. Um, Andrew Luck to me, if he was

792
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: still playing, you know, would probably be number one. I

793
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: think he's a better player than Camp. I mean, I

794
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: just think he's a better quarterback than Cam. I think

795
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: he's he's sensational. He's not playing anymore. But I would

796
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Speaker 1: not rank Golf ahead of him because West thirty two.

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Speaker 1: G M fell, Okay, you can have Andrew ed got

798
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Speaker 1: to start your franchise. Who are you going with? Thirty

799
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Speaker 1: two out of thirty two? Would say Andrew Luck. With

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Speaker 1: kid actually might be a little bit more varied, especially

801
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: at this point. I mean, the guy doesn't even have

802
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Speaker 1: a starting job, which is nonsense. But Andrew Luck. No,

803
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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck is safely. I think those two there's a

804
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: wide gap between those two and everybody else on this list. Now,

805
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: Miles has a chance to close that gap, but I

806
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: think for and so does Baker obviously and Kyler if

807
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: they play well. But for now it's those two, and

808
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: then Golf is probably on his own little level. Then

809
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: Miles and then everybody else. Yeah, I probably would have

810
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 1: put Luck ahead of Newton because if you asked the

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Speaker 1: Colts and the Panthers, or as the Colts, who you've

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00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: rather had for this stretch of period, because now they're

813
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: both not with their teams that drafted them. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing the Colts would still take Andrew Luck during

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00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: that period, but the Panthers my too, Yeah, And I

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Speaker 1: think I think so That's why I I think that

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00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 1: uh Cam had Cam had probably the best individual season

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Speaker 1: during that stretch, but Andrew Luck played the best football

819
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Speaker 1: over his stretch with his team during that period. So

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Speaker 1: are we in agreement then that the worst number one

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Speaker 1: pick of the decade was Sam Bradford, who really was

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00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,760
Speaker 1: the biggest winner because it was the last big payday

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Speaker 1: for a for a number one pick. Uh coming right

824
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 1: out of college and getting the money that he did,

825
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: Is he the worst of the decade? Gribble? Yeah, I

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00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: mean just because he never put it together. I mean,

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Speaker 1: all these other guys have been good. I mean, like

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Speaker 1: it's they've all been starters for long stretch to time.

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Speaker 1: Some have been elite players for pres The only one

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Speaker 1: that never really could string it together. Uh. And again

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Speaker 1: I don't fault the Rams because I'm looking back at

832
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Speaker 1: this draft now, I don't know who else they would

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Speaker 1: have taken, especially when they need a QB. I mean,

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Speaker 1: do they take a Dominican sue with the number one pick?

835
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Speaker 1: I mean, then that would have been all right, But

836
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Speaker 1: would he still be would he even be cracking the

837
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Speaker 1: top five on this list? I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: would be, so uh yeah, I mean that's that's part

839
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Speaker 1: of my judgment of these is who could they have

840
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Speaker 1: also had with those number one picks? And I I

841
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: have a hard time faulting the Rams taking Bradford there,

842
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: but he's definitely been the worst. I'd say, yeah, I

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00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: would go with Bradford or or Fisher. I mean, those

844
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Speaker 1: two to me are in their kind of their own group.

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Speaker 1: And I know Fisher has been a solid player and

846
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: he's been a starter. Bradford, you know, his body betrayed him.

847
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 1: Never was able to stay healthy. He had some pretty

848
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: good efficient years, one with the Rams and he had

849
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: one with the Vikings, but never was able to win.

850
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 1: And when you're drafted number one overall as a quarterback,

851
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: your job really is to take your team to the

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Speaker 1: playoffs and to win playoff games and so on that level.

853
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: He has failed on that level thus far. Jamis has

854
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 1: failed on that level thus far, you know, and it's

855
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: so too early, but Baker and Kyler have failed. So

856
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: that's that's the barometer for a quarterback. And if you

857
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,439
Speaker 1: don't do that at all, then it's tough to get

858
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: too excited. So I think, you know, that's why it's

859
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: clear to me that Golf, Luck and and Cam are

860
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: the top three on this list. They were drafted to

861
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: do have their teams become postseason successes. Andrew Luck had

862
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: as seem in the postseason all the time, took him

863
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: all the way the FC Championship game. Cam has been

864
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: to a super Bowl. Goss been to a super Bowl.

865
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 1: That's what you're supposed to do when you're the number

866
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: one pick. All right, So are we all in agreement

867
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: that some combination of Golf, Luck and Camera your top three? Yeah?

868
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 1: So who would be number four? I'll put Miles there? Yeah, Miles.

869
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 1: And who's number five? We'll just go top five. I'd

870
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: probably put Clowney there just because he's his resume is better,

871
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: but the quarterbacks should surpass him. Quick Lee and easily

872
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: if Baker or Kyler lead their team to the playoffs.

873
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's what they've got to do. Um

874
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: And I think you know right now with Clowne's five, there,

875
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 1: six and seven Jamis and there's a big gap between

876
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: them right now at least and Jamis Fisher Bradford, and

877
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: you can put if you wanna put Fisher eighth and

878
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: put Jamis ninth. I'm not gonna fight anybody about that,

879
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: but right now, you know, these quarterbacks after they've got

880
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: to play well. They gotta play well. And I think

881
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: it'd be interesting because if, like I said, if this

882
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,479
Speaker 1: was done after two eighteen and Baker has that great

883
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: clothes in the season, Baker is probably third on this list,

884
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't you say, Gribbs the way that this one's written

885
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 1: without question and so it's amazing he's getting too much

886
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: eight now. Now he's got to answer all those critics

887
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: this year and everything set up for him, as everybody

888
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: keeps saying, no excuses, it's all there. The lines there,

889
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 1: the skill position players are there, the scheme is there.

890
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: It's all there. He's got to do it, and I

891
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 1: have a feeling he has a chance to take his

892
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: team in the playoffs this year, and if they were

893
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: to do this again after the twenties season, I would

894
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: expect Baker to be much higher. And I think Tyler

895
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: as good as he's gonna be. That's a tough division

896
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: to try to come out of and get into the playoffs.

897
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 1: I mean, that's gonna be difficult. I think the part

898
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: where we disagree the most, I think is Eric Fisher.

899
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: I mean, he started ninety eight games for the team

900
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: that drafted him. I mean, that's that's a really good pick.

901
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I know it wasn't a sexy draft, and

902
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: he hasn't been an elite player, but he's been good

903
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: enough that. I mean, why these other guys aren't on

904
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: their team anymore? I mean they moved on. I mean

905
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: I think that there's some value in that, especially in

906
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 1: a draft that we malign as much as that two

907
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: thirteen drafts. So how high do you want to put them?

908
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: Where do you want to put I'd say five or

909
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: six maybe at this what he's an he's at best

910
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: an average player right at an important position. I don't know.

911
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I think if you're drafting number one overall

912
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 1: and you're a tackle and You're not even the best

913
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: tackle that was taken in the top ten. That's not

914
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: a great pick. But he's He's Lane Johnson is a

915
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: very good right tackle. Yes, not a left tackle. And

916
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: let's just be when are when are we been singing

917
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: the praises of the Kansas City line. It's honestly, he's

918
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: the best line on his own team. I mean, I

919
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: think a lot, maybe half the teams might have cut

920
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: bait on Eric Fisher. Yeah, but yeah, but I'm just saying,

921
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: maybe that's my mindset. I'm in more prove it mode

922
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: with some of these more recent first round picks. I

923
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: still think that you've at least seen stuff from Kyler

924
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: and from Baker that would make you feel better about

925
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: selecting them than than Eric Fisher. So yeah, I guess

926
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: I'm just valuing. I mean, that's how many people have

927
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: started a hundred games with the rounds recently. I mean,

928
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: it's it's just I mean it's tough, man, It's I

929
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: value the longevity and the consistency and knowing I have

930
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: a left tackle. Maybe it's because I'm I've lived these

931
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: last couple of years about a left tackle. But I'm

932
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: just spooked by by not having one, you know, I mean,

933
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: that's the that's the that's the tough thing. But I

934
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: guess it's just how you look at the list. I mean,

935
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: I'm again I'm with Baker Kyler. These guys, I mean,

936
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: they've got These are big years for them to prove that.

937
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: And even more something mean, Miles has proven it, but

938
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: this is a big year for Miles as well to

939
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: really escalate into the upper echelan and do it for

940
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: a full sixteen games and really show what we think

941
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: he's capable of. I think that that will ultimately tell

942
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: me whether we can put him above a guy like

943
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: we think he's going to be a better player than

944
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: Jared Goff. Eventually, it's just that you have to to

945
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: show it now, God do it, you gotta do it. Indeed,

946
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 1: a lot of guys that need to prove it here

947
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: in You appreciate your time, my friend. Oh, it's always

948
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: fun to stop by, and it is amazing though you

949
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: look back at this decade of draft picks and really

950
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 1: there's the potential that I think you could say, six

951
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: end up being home runs. But that even shows how

952
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: difficult when you have the top pick in the draft,

953
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: Still how difficult it is still how many variables and

954
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: factors go into it, and it's just it's not easy.

955
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: It's the end up. Drafting in the NFL is not

956
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: easy because especially for quarterbacks, they can get derailed for

957
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: a variety of reasons, whether it be injury, whether it

958
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: be the line that's in front of them, that the

959
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: coaching they get, the lack of talent around them. But

960
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: I think it's it's an interesting exercise to look at

961
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: it and say, you know, as you sit here beginning

962
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: the next decade, Cam's doesn't have a home, Luck has retired,

963
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: you know, Miles has a lot of potential, Kyler's got potential,

964
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: Baker's got potential. GoF is your most accomplished everyday player

965
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: right now in a sense. And Clowne he's never been

966
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 1: the guy that you thought he was gonna be. He's

967
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: going on his third team right He's also expensive, so

968
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 1: there's like, for example, if Eric Fisher was demanding the money,

969
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 1: he probably wouldn't be back there are commanded the money,

970
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: he wouldn't have been back with Cans City. But no,

971
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: that's and that's what's amazing about these things you're talking about.

972
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: Every year, somebody's generational, every year, somebody's, you know, the

973
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: best they've ever seen at this position. It's it's hard.

974
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: It's hard being great in the NFL. It's hard, and

975
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: it takes a lot more than just talents. You would say,

976
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: not not a true Maybe Bradford's the close thing, not

977
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: a true bust on this list yet fair I would

978
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 1: say that there's no like total swings and misses. Yeah,

979
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: I think Bradford would be the postes. But again that

980
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: goes it's hard to blame injury for somebody's career completely

981
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: being derailed because he did have some good stretches and

982
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: has shown the ability to play good football. It's just

983
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: he never could stay healthy. Yeah, you're I think that's

984
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: the biggest thing. There are no busts. There's no JaMarcus

985
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:21,240
Speaker 1: the decade, which is pretty impressive. That's that is definitely

986
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: saying something. But it'll be interesting to see what this

987
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 1: next decade brings us and how these guys are viewed

988
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 1: in five years. So should be interesting. Could change a lot,

989
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: I mean it could. You could end up, honestly, if

990
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: Kyler or Baker can lead their team to a super

991
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: Bowl and even though a win, they're gonna jump to

992
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: the top of this list. If Miles becomes you know,

993
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: a sixteen sack guy for the next five years, he's

994
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: gonna jump near the top of this list. So yeah,

995
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: the next five years will be very interesting because the guys,

996
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: it's a left potential are about to hit their stride

997
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: where they can really change how these rankings. You know.

998
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: For Cam, I'd say his best hay is in the

999
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: barn luck same you know Goth potentially, but I mean

1000
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: he still has chance to change where he sits on

1001
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: this list as well. But I think his organization is

1002
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: in a salary cap position. It's gonna make it very

1003
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: difficult for them to get back to its first round picks. Yeah,

1004
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: he needs talenty cheap talent, right and you get they

1005
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:16,919
Speaker 1: don't get it. No, clearly not want to thank Eric

1006
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: at home. Want to thank Nathan's a Girl for his time,

1007
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: Jeff McDaniel behind the scenes taking care of everything. I

1008
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: want to thank Andrew Gribble for his time getting crazy

1009
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: and watching kids and trying to keep from floating away

1010
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 1: down up I should say in Lakewood, Uh, I want

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