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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori

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Speaker 1: with you, back with Robert Hasting's author of Confession are

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Speaker 1: Hidden Alien Encounters Revealed? Robert, as you mentioned, you're almost seventy,

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Speaker 1: why did you wait so long to come forward with

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Speaker 1: this abductee story about yourself? Well, I'm perfectly aware that

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Speaker 1: it's the most controversial aspect of the UFO phenomenon. Persons

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Speaker 1: who are willing to accept the nuts and bolts cases,

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Speaker 1: many of them just can't bring themselves to accept that

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Speaker 1: the abduction phenomenon is real. And over the years, I

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Speaker 1: was getting very favorable treatment from the media. As you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: I held a press conference in Washington in twenty ten

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Speaker 1: and CNN streamed it live, which event we had seven

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Speaker 1: Air Force veterans describing UFO incursions at nuclear weapon sites,

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Speaker 1: and all the local media around the country when I

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Speaker 1: was on the college lecture circuit was treating me very

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Speaker 1: objectively and favorably. I have tried to get public attention,

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Speaker 1: media attention for the UFO phenomenon as a respectable subject

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Speaker 1: that should be studied by journalists. If not scientists. And

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Speaker 1: I knew that if I confessed what I've been talking

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Speaker 1: about tonight that probably I would never get a journalist

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Speaker 1: to show up at any of my events again. So

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Speaker 1: I just bided my time. It was a premeditated decision

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Speaker 1: to put this off, but I knew at the same time,

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Speaker 1: before I left this Earth, I would be talking about

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Speaker 1: this publicly. And Bob Jacobs, my co author, who is

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Speaker 1: best known for the Big UFO Case, for those of

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Speaker 1: your listeners who are not familiar, that back in nineteen

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Speaker 1: sixty four he was the head of a photographic team

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Speaker 1: filming missile launches off of the Vandenberg Air Force Space

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Speaker 1: over the Pacific Ocean, and then this one test that

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Speaker 1: they were testing a dummy nuclear warhead. When they developed

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Speaker 1: the film and analyzed it, they saw this disc shaped

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Speaker 1: object with a dome fly in out of camera frame,

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Speaker 1: circled this dummy nuclear warhead and fire four different beams

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Speaker 1: of light at it, at which point the warhead began

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Speaker 1: tumbling into the ocean and fell several hundred miles short

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Speaker 1: of target. Now, according to another officer named Florenz Mansman,

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Speaker 1: Major Florenz Mansman, CIA agents too came and confiscated the

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Speaker 1: film and took it god knows where. Now Bob was

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Speaker 1: just told this incident never happened. He was not officially

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Speaker 1: told it was top secret, which it was. He found

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Speaker 1: out twenty years later from Major Mansman that the CIA

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Speaker 1: was that this never happened. Don't talk about it. Well,

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Speaker 1: he waited twenty something years and then wrote an article

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Speaker 1: about it and began getting death threats. So that's his

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Speaker 1: military story. But around the same time, in the mid eighties,

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Speaker 1: he began having experiences similar to me, of entities in

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Speaker 1: his bedroom interacting with him in some manner. And he's

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Speaker 1: also had incidents where on a dark, deserted road out

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Speaker 1: by a large illuminated object, and he said missing time experiences.

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Speaker 1: In twenty twelve, quite by accident, we were talking about

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Speaker 1: nuts and bolts cases and I just decided I would

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Speaker 1: let him know that I had a secret life. I

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Speaker 1: had these incidents going on. Much to my surprise, he said,

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Speaker 1: so have I. I thought he was joking at first,

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Speaker 1: and it became quite clear that he wasn't. So this

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Speaker 1: past December Wale. Actually December twenty eighteen, he and I

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Speaker 1: decided we would write a book and come clean and

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Speaker 1: it's been interesting. We've gotten very favorable feedback for the

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Speaker 1: most part from people who read the book. I'm happy

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Speaker 1: to say, yeah, you did. You both came out in

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Speaker 1: a big way, and I'm glad you did too. I

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Speaker 1: think it just continues to add to your credibility. Robert,

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Speaker 1: give us a couple of these missile silo cases that

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Speaker 1: you can relate to us, because they are fascinating, probably

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Speaker 1: the most dramatic one I've heard. Curd At Minor Air

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Speaker 1: Force based North Dakota in nineteen sixty seven, I interviewed

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Speaker 1: a retired missile launch officer named David Sure, scch you

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Speaker 1: that first I should say that with all the veterans

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Speaker 1: He suddenly gets a frantic call from a guard up

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Speaker 1: And he can see that on his console down in

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Speaker 1: smuggle is the correct word. Out of Russia. In nineteen

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Speaker 1: base and suddenly several missiles went into launch mode. Are

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Speaker 1: they trying to start a war, Robert between the nations?

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Speaker 1: That's what I was just about to go, you read

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Speaker 1: my mind. In my opinion, they're not trying to do that.

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Speaker 1: What they're trying to do probably is figure out how

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Speaker 1: In my view, the purpose would be to disrupt the launches,

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Speaker 1: and then they just take off. Is that what happens? Well,

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Speaker 1: to the documents page, you see documents from the FBI, CIA,

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Speaker 1: sites the laboratories Los Alamos, Sandia, Oakridge, Hanford where we

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Speaker 1: frankly Bob Salis, who is a retired former I should

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Speaker 1: I think he probably has a genius. IQ. I have

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Speaker 1: other scientific subjects. I really, without exaggeration, think he's a

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, he's frustrating a lot of people because

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Speaker 1: and I've said in my new book, he's talked to

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Speaker 1: now publicly, on a number of occasions talked about nuclear

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Speaker 1: been happening. Where was the UFO help in nineteen forty

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Speaker 1: five when we launched in detonated over Hiroshima, Nagasaki. I've

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Speaker 1: been asked that I have no answer for that. It's clear. Well,

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Speaker 1: one thing I can tell you and both in both

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Speaker 1: right across the river from the Hanford site, which produced

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Speaker 1: plutonium for the Trinity Shot, the first nuclear test, and

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Speaker 1: in January of nineteen forty five, his prop driven Healthcat

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Speaker 1: aircraft Healthcat fighters were chasing away objects that were bright

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Speaker 1: balls of light that do so fast they couldn't possibly

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Speaker 1: researcher Jan Aldrich that the Fourth Army had actually tracked

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Speaker 1: these three objects independently on Army radar, so as early

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Speaker 1: bomb Japan with the atomic bombs. We have army documents

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Speaker 1: and we have a Navy pilot saying that UFOs were

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Speaker 1: flying over our nuclear sites. So they've been on it.

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Speaker 1: You know. As to why they didn't intervene with the

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Speaker 1: bombings themselves, I don't know. I don't have an answer.

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