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Speaker 1: Chris raybaun NFA Week one to hear people. As always,

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Speaker 2: week one. We finally get to see all these guys

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Speaker 2: I know you love that as much as I do.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and actually go off things. But Week one

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Speaker 2: is all about vibes. You know, so looking forward to

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Speaker 2: diving in and we got you know, waiver Whigers today.

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Speaker 1: You got any any quick picks for who's going to

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Speaker 1: be the most routes run without a target this in

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Speaker 2: Maybe Jahan Dotson. I haven't really thought about that quite

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Speaker 1: I could see I could see a Raider like maybe

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Speaker 2: Tucker, we'll nick Giffin that. But yeah, Raiders, Yeah, they're

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Speaker 2: it could be pretty murky for the Raiders this week.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: It's here. Let's talk waivers. Let's say you drafted a

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Speaker 1: fence at quarterback, if you're in need, who's your target?

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Speaker 2: Week one? Sean Kerner? Yeah, so Trevor Lawrence would be

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Speaker 2: my target at home against the Panthers. He's still available

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Speaker 1: He didn't really impress me in the preseason or anything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, Daniel Jones is more capable of like protecting

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So Jerome Ford available still in you know, fifty

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Speaker 1: Did the fact that they kept Bam Knight on the

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Speaker 1: But those guys aren't supposed like Samuy wasn't supposed to

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Speaker 1: thing that changed on the roster was that they got

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Speaker 1: this guy Bill and they and then they were like,

434
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Speaker 1: you know what, like Chris Rodriguez has been there for

435
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Speaker 1: like years.

436
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Speaker 2: Man.

437
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Speaker 1: I agree, it looks better. He should be a part

438
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Speaker 1: of the team, but he's another guy that just doesn't

439
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 1: give you as much in the past game, and it

440
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 1: seems like that's what they want. So I think, I

441
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Speaker 1: think if I'm buying the dip on Bill all day, if.

442
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Speaker 2: Ye people probably his rushing yards prop what is it not?

443
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,640
Speaker 2: It was like twenty one and a half at open

444
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 2: I'm sure's them bet up. But first time, first carry,

445
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 2: Well there you go. It's got to be over thirty

446
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 2: by now. But yeah, it might not shock me in

447
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 2: week one. It's kind of a murky mess when you're

448
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 2: adding a guy like Bill, you're just expecting, you know,

449
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 2: week three on anyway, and it could take some time.

450
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 2: Saving with Ollie Gordon, you know, a chan looking good

451
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Speaker 2: to go, but Gordon was so I mean, he was

452
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Speaker 2: a Heisman candidate back in twenty twenty three, had a

453
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 2: rough season last year, but he's he's already flashed massive upside.

454
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Speaker 2: So yeah, like Olli, Gordon is one of the top

455
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Speaker 2: bench stashes as well in my opinion, Yeah, because in.

456
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Speaker 1: Week one, Yeah, there's always gonna be guys that you

457
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Speaker 1: kind of temper expectations for as rookies, and some guys

458
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: are kind of over drafted or whatnot, but at least

459
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Speaker 1: for early season production. But at the end of the day,

460
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 1: they're also in week one ten to be as you mentioned,

461
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Speaker 1: with the data like the routes data and just the

462
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Speaker 1: snap data, there's usually a few guys who just right

463
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Speaker 1: off the bat are just full time players that you

464
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Speaker 1: didn't even expect it. And I think there's an outside

465
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Speaker 1: shot that that could just be Ali Gordon, you know

466
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Speaker 1: what I mean. Look, he's looked good enough to where

467
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Speaker 1: I could see because I think I think McDaniel knows,

468
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 1: like a chan is so valuable that if you can

469
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Speaker 1: take a few of those inside carries, short yards whatever away. Yeah,

470
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: that's why he had most of in that role. So yeah,

471
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Speaker 1: love love Gordon, love Bill too. Uh, he shouldn't be

472
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Speaker 1: available anywhere, so hopefully he's not. But I guess you

473
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Speaker 1: could pick up Chris Roger guess speculatively as well. Ekwer.

474
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Speaker 1: I mean, all those guys right wide receiver, you shouldn't

475
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Speaker 1: have a need on your roster. Uh you know, I know,

476
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Speaker 1: I know you've been kind of loading up early on

477
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Speaker 1: wide receiver. I think that's the way to do it,

478
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Speaker 1: because you're not going to find as many guys late

479
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Speaker 1: on the waiver that are going to turn into these

480
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Speaker 1: bona fide, you know, stud.

481
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Speaker 2: Number one guys.

482
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Speaker 1: But there are a few guys I think that are

483
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Speaker 1: available widely that we want to add with kind of

484
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Speaker 1: the bigger picture in mind.

485
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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. I think if you're adding a guy from

486
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Speaker 2: the waiver wire to start at wide receiver week one,

487
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Speaker 2: you did your draft wrong. Maybe maybe you took a

488
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Speaker 2: guy like Rashid Rice and you do need some added

489
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Speaker 2: depth early in the season. So I think, you know,

490
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Speaker 2: the first guy I'm gonna talk about, Marvin Mems. He's

491
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Speaker 2: available in eight percent of Yahoo leagues. He would be

492
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Speaker 2: a guy that you know, I think is probably too

493
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Speaker 2: widely available, considering he's inside my top you know, forty

494
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 2: five to open the season, it's it's really tough to

495
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Speaker 2: find anybody ranked inside the top fifty available on the

496
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Speaker 2: waiver wire. But you know, he's been dealing with the

497
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 2: groin injury. But he was back at practice yesterday, so

498
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 2: it looks like he's a full go for Week one,

499
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 2: but you got to, you know, monitor the injury report.

500
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Speaker 2: But you know he should open up as the clear

501
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Speaker 2: number two wide receiver for the Broncos. And you know,

502
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Speaker 2: Bo Nicks is the quarterback I think could make an

503
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 2: even biggerly this year, which means we want more than

504
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 2: just Courtland Sutton or Evan Ingram from their pass catching group.

505
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 2: And you know, Men's he already flashed massive upside. He

506
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 2: was the wide receiver six over the final six games

507
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Speaker 2: last season. You know, just had massive upside, winning downfield,

508
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 2: getting design carries, kind of like a Deebo Samuel type role.

509
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 2: So he's the kind of guy that I think it

510
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,719
Speaker 2: is worth taking a flyer on to begin the year

511
00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 2: if you need the depth. Plus, you know they try

512
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 2: away Devon Vley, which kind of opens up more playing

513
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 2: time in targets for these more ancillary receivers for the Broncos.

514
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 2: So I think Mems is the guy that you know,

515
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 2: he's probably you know, way too available, being available in

516
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 2: fifty eight percent of the leagues right now, and like

517
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Speaker 2: I said, open opening up week one inside my top

518
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Speaker 2: forty five.

519
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the key we talked about it on

520
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: a prior pod was that and the you know, the

521
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 1: Broncos are weird, so sometimes they don't always the preseason

522
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 1: usage doesn't always carry over. But Mims played with every

523
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: snap with the starter is pretty much like ninety percent

524
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 1: plus when you mentioned that that wide receiver six finish

525
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: he was playing what about thirty five to forty percent snap?

526
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 1: It was. It's nuts. So like imagine, you know, a

527
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 1: full time role now and I think I think the

528
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Speaker 1: number three receiver is probably going to be Franklin to

529
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: start the year, and then eventually the plan is to

530
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: kind of get Bryant, uh, you know, to play all

531
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: three of those positions, but at least in the preseason

532
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: from what we've seen and in camp, he's been backing

533
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Speaker 1: up Sutton at the X and they traded va way

534
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: to kind of get you know, to open up some

535
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: room for everyone. But if it means Mems is eighth,

536
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: we're close to a full time player. Yeah, massive, massive,

537
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: love it massive upset, Well do you like?

538
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, the other guy is you know this is more

539
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 2: for deeper leagues, but Xavier Lagett is available in eighty

540
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 2: six percent of leagues. You know, everyone's talking about how

541
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 2: tech McMillan. Stock continues to climb because you know, we've

542
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 2: seen Adam Felen get traded away, and now it looks

543
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 2: like Jalen Cocher is gonna miss you know, the first

544
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 2: four to six weeks here. But you know Ted's already

545
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 2: owned and then everyone's starting lineup for week one, so

546
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 2: Leget's the guy to add as he should be the

547
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 2: clear number two target all of a sudden, and even

548
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 2: Tet is dealing with that hands ring injury, so who

549
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 2: knows how healthy he's going to be for week one.

550
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 2: So we gets stock has gone way up, and we

551
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 2: have to remember, I mean, he was a rookie last year,

552
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 2: he was a first round pick. Still has you know,

553
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 2: unrealized upside. I know he was a bit inconsistent last year,

554
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 2: but it wouldn't be too surprising for a guy like

555
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 2: him to bounce back and have a year two breakout.

556
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 2: But the path is certainly there with you know, feeling

557
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 2: gone Coker out the first several weeks. So if you

558
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 2: need some early season help in deeper leagues, le gets

559
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 2: a solid option and he opens up as my wide

560
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 2: receiver fifty to start the season. So yeah, mostly for

561
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 2: deeper leagues and maybe DFS props things like that, but

562
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 2: his stock's way up right now.

563
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like him a lot because he's not one

564
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: of those guys where it just kind of sets up

565
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: really well for him because clearly the Panthers I feel

566
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: like they brought Renfro back because of you know, the

567
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: developments with that demon and then the Cocher injury, but

568
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: like it looked like they didn't have any intention to even.

569
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: Keep Renfro on the roster.

570
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Speaker 1: But the fact that Renfro was even in the mix

571
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Speaker 1: and Deven was still there, it also meant that Jimmy Horne,

572
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: who's another candidate for the slot role, is you know,

573
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: they probably view him as more of like a return man,

574
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: special teamer to start his career, and so we get

575
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: kind of is in this he can move around now

576
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: because Ted is gonna be the X. So like we

577
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: get can play a slot, they can scheme him up

578
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: stuff like Z slot. You know, just kind of get

579
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: him better matchups unless it's just Travis Hunter, but hopefully

580
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: it's it's not too much Travis Hunter. But yeah, I

581
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: think it would get kind of is the big winner there,

582
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: and it's a little it is flying under the radar

583
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: because what they could do and you know they've done

584
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: this in the past. It could be with getting a

585
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: slot ted and Canal's his boy David Moore and those

586
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: those three would be like the top three route runners.

587
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: So either way, I think we'll get it comes out

588
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: of winner here because last year he was playing a

589
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: lot more X and that I just don't think that

590
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: was a good fit for him. And in general, you know,

591
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: like those are the guys that end up, you know,

592
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: get a lot of press cover bridge, you get those,

593
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: you get like those one target on twenty routes. Some

594
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: games it's it's not a good one, but yeah, it's

595
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: good good, good spot for a get good match at

596
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: Week one against the Jags, I gotta go with Tory Horton.

597
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: Uh he's still available in am I reading this right,

598
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: eighty three percent of weeks. Oh my goodness, Like that

599
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: is absurd. This guy here, he's already a starter for

600
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: this team pretty much, so he had an ankle injury

601
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: in week two of the preseason, and that's kind of

602
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: why I guess it's been murky. But he's a guy

603
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: I know, you love, sean really talented guy. Allowed them

604
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: to move on from Marquez Valdez Scantling, and this is

605
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: a team that we expect to kind of go with

606
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: a lot more two tight end personnel. And what that means, though,

607
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: is that Cooper cup might not always be on the field.

608
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: You know, he might be more of like a swat only,

609
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: you know, one to one personnel only. So there's even

610
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: a chance that Horton, just by having this other parent

611
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: midder receiver role lockdown, could end up being the number

612
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: two receiver in routes run even from week one if

613
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: he can, if he can play, and they seem like

614
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: they're cautiously optimistic, but he's got enough talent that, you know,

615
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: there's not many receivers really that you're gonna find late

616
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: that are gonna blow up. So if he's going to

617
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: be available in like eight out of ten leagues, he's

618
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: probably talented enough that he's worth you know, a stash

619
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,479
Speaker 1: for a week and just run it back in week two.

620
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: If he ends up being inactive in Week one, but

621
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: I think I think Horton is being major. We slept

622
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: on in the nine ers. You know, we don't know

623
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: their defense. They got some injuries in the secondary, so

624
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: he could pop if he if he goes right off

625
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: the bat here, I would have him pretty high, like

626
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: borderline top fifty. Like you said, there's not a ton

627
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: of value in week one, but I think when you

628
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: combine the week one kind of borderline value with the

629
00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: big picture value where he could be a flex or

630
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: even a wide receiver three this year, I think you're

631
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: the guy you want to grab now. So Horton definitely

632
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: should not be available in this many weeks injury.

633
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 2: Or not agreed. And yeah, like with MVS gone, all

634
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 2: we need is like Hooper Cup to look like shit

635
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 2: week one, and Horton could be in play as soon

636
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 2: as week two. So he's a early season stash. It

637
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 2: might be a while until we could plan, but you

638
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 2: should absolutely be rostered in a lot more than you know,

639
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 2: what is it, seventeen eleven percent of league so far.

640
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, he's probably the key to Cooper Cup being

641
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: decent because he can preserve Cup for just playing in

642
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: those three Why he doesn't have to run block as much,

643
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like so that it actually

644
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: might work against their prop. But I still think it's

645
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: a good bet Cup under seven hundred. But we got

646
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: to tight end next. But before we move on, let's

647
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Speaker 1: do a segment presented by Yahoo Fantasy that we are

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Speaker 1: calling waiver Wire Wisdom Sean Turner. We're gonna get a

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Speaker 1: piece of advice from you here. What is something that

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Speaker 1: fantasy managers often overlook when dealing with the waiver wire.

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Speaker 2: I think it's just knowing when to be aggressive on

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Speaker 2: the waiver wire, So that's you know, using your number

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Speaker 2: one waiver or your entire fab budget. But I think

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Speaker 2: it depends on your roster state. You know what positions

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Speaker 2: your week at, whether you're in win now mode or

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Speaker 2: you know, preparing for the playoffs, things like that. But

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Speaker 2: I think you need to realize if you're getting say

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Speaker 2: a one to two week rental versus a rest of

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Speaker 2: season options. So an example would be, if you know,

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor tweaks his ankle and he's expensive, he's gonna

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Speaker 2: miss you know, one to two games. A guy like

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Speaker 2: DJ Giddens would be a top pick up that week,

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Speaker 2: but you know, he's probably only going to provide you

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Speaker 2: value for those one to two games and then go

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Speaker 2: right back on your bench. Whereas if Jonathan Taylor suffers

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Speaker 2: a you know, significant or season long ending injury, Giddens

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Speaker 2: is now going to offer value the rest of the season.

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Speaker 2: So in the latter case, when he's gonna offer value

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Speaker 2: the rest of the season, that's when I go all

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Speaker 2: in or be super aggressive on that type of player.

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Speaker 2: So I think it's just understanding, you know, how long

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Speaker 2: his spike in value is expected to last.

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Speaker 1: Totally agreed, and it always it's gonna skewed a running

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Speaker 1: back as well. Yeah, you know, don't don't blow your

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Speaker 1: unless it's it's gotta be a generational kind of wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: It comes along a lot, lot less frequently. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: that kind of goes without saying, but great advice there.

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Speaker 1: That's our Waiver Wire Wisdom segment presented by Yahoo Fantasy

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Speaker 1: tight End. Oh man, it seems like an old Fantasy

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Speaker 1: Flex favorite is back in your crossairs Turner who he got?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I'm going with ky Otton available in h

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Speaker 2: three percent of Yahoo leagues, so he's the top guy

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Speaker 2: that's available in more than half the League's against the

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Speaker 2: Falcons this week. But you know he has a leg injury.

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Speaker 2: He's questionable for EAK one, but he returned limited practice Monday,

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Speaker 2: so you know he's at least trending in the right direction.

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Speaker 2: But a guy one of the many guys I be

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Speaker 2: a monitor throughout the week, but I think he could

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Speaker 2: be a you know, a high end tight end two

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Speaker 2: this week. You know he's always gonna be running a

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Speaker 2: ton of routes. But the thing with you know, Auton,

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Speaker 2: and I mentioned it before last season, he had always

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Speaker 2: played with Mike Evans and Chris Godwin being healthy and

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Speaker 2: then coincidently both missed time at the same time last year,

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Speaker 2: and he was like a top five tight end. So

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Speaker 2: anytime he can move up the target pecking order, we

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Speaker 2: need to take notice. And that's the case heading into

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Speaker 2: Week one. You know, obviously they drafted Mecca Buka, who

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Speaker 2: I'm high on. He'll be out there, Mike Evans will

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Speaker 2: be out there, but you know, Chris Godwin looks like

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Speaker 2: he's gonna, you know, the mess miss the first couple

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Speaker 2: of games, then who knows from there. Jayalen McMillan is

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Speaker 2: also expected. He's expected mess like the first half of

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Speaker 2: the season, So you know Autumn's going to be the

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Speaker 2: number three target most likely, which I think helps boost

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Speaker 2: his you know floor a bit. So yeah, he opens

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Speaker 2: the week as my tight end. Fifteen should be a

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Speaker 2: good matchup against Falcons. He had his best game against

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Speaker 2: them last year nine catches, eighty one yards and two touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: So I think it's a sneaky spot if you're looking for,

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Speaker 2: you know, a pinch play this week tight end.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm gonna go with Kate Atten as well,

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Speaker 1: but the Kate Atten in Florida on the oh because

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Speaker 1: Caten with William cohenes Kate Atten last year. But Kate

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Speaker 1: Aten is Brenton Strange. You're your guy, Brenton Strange. Uh,

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Speaker 1: same everything you said about Kat Atten kind of applies

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Speaker 1: for Brenton Strange. Accept the you know, the Mike Evans,

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Speaker 1: you know situation, but you know Diami Brown, Pargo Washington

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Speaker 1: and maybe even Hunter and then you know they just

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Speaker 1: added Tim Patrick. So Breton Strange actually may be if

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Speaker 1: he if he gets that same out and row which

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Speaker 1: we expect. He might be the number two behind Michael

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Speaker 1: Thomas in routes run on the Jaguars every week. So

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Speaker 1: another guy who I think worth a stream. In Week one,

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Speaker 1: the Panthers were bottom three and fantasy points allowed to

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Speaker 1: the tight end position last season. I think this past

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Speaker 1: defense is still going to struggle a lot this year.

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Speaker 1: And the most touchdown to tight ends with eleven for

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Speaker 1: the Panthers last year. So it's all you're looking for,

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Speaker 1: especially with these streamers. If you can get in the

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Speaker 1: end zone, I think the Jaguars should score a lot

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Speaker 1: of points. I think William Cohen and this offense hit

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Speaker 1: the ground running, and yeah, if he can't get out

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Speaker 1: and get Strange, I think they're kind of neck and

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Speaker 1: neck here with with kind of a similar route profile

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Speaker 1: and simply you know, same coordinator that at last year

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Speaker 1: straight Strange as this year. Great matchup for Strange, great

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Speaker 1: matchup for Orotten. So yeah, those two guys and a

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Speaker 1: seven ninety weeks is Otten available seventy eight percent of

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Speaker 1: weeks Strange is available, so you should be able to

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Speaker 1: get one of the other. But yeah, and it could

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Speaker 1: it could just turn into you know, every week starter,

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Speaker 1: So uh, yeah, great, great, great options available.

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Speaker 2: At tight end.

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Speaker 1: UH defense special teams now gets a little interesting, Sean, I, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you got you. You got in the outline first, so

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Speaker 1: you get to you get to give the UH the

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Speaker 1: best play, the bestream by far I think of the week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, going to Arizona Cardinals available on sixty five of

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Speaker 2: JACHO leagues. What are we doing hopefully, UH, you just

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Speaker 2: didn't draft a kicker or defense and that's why they're

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Speaker 2: so available. You're, you know, stashing a couple more backup

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Speaker 2: running backs until the last minute. But when the time comes,

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Speaker 2: you have to add the Cardinals to be your streaming defense.

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Speaker 2: This week they open up as my number two defense,

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Speaker 2: and a big part of that is they're facing the

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Speaker 2: Saints this week. Anybody, any defense facing this, you know

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Speaker 2: the Saints is going to get a boost at least

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Speaker 2: early in the season because you know Spence Rattler, He's

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Speaker 2: drawn the week one start. Last year, he had the

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Speaker 2: third highest turnover worthy play rate, the tenth highest pressure

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Speaker 2: to stack rate out of forty four qualified quarterbacks. Those

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Speaker 2: are what we're looking for when it comes to streaming defenses. So,

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Speaker 2: you know, the Cardinals, they upgraded the d line you know,

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Speaker 2: they brought in Josh Sweat plays Campbell, so I think

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Speaker 2: they improved this defense. But either way, they're my week

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Speaker 2: one streamer, got Adam and then you know, they face

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Speaker 2: the Panthers at home in week two. Week two looks

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Speaker 2: pretty rough, a lot of the good Man defenses that

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Speaker 2: are already taken, so you might end up using the

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Speaker 2: Cardinals for the first two weeks. So I think they're

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Speaker 2: you know, the streaming play this week and potentially next

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Speaker 2: week as well.

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Speaker 1: Over under twelve and a half points did the Saints

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Speaker 1: average per Spencer Ratlis start last year?

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Speaker 2: Oh, let's go with under.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was twelve point three by my calculation. Oh

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Speaker 1: it's pretty bad. Soh and the Cardinals were last I

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Speaker 1: want to say, six weeks of the season. They were.

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Speaker 1: They were one of the top top defenses in points

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Speaker 1: per game. And yeah, they love the ads that they made.

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Speaker 1: They might finally have put it all together on that end.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think this is a it's a great

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Speaker 1: matter for them. They're clearly faring away the best streamer.

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Speaker 1: But if you're got, if you got to kind of

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Speaker 1: go a little deeper. This is gonna sound kind of crazy,

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Speaker 1: but I actually like the Bengal against the Browns.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And it's because as bad as the Bengals defense was

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Speaker 1: last year, and my my my, it wasn't bad. Double

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Speaker 1: digit points in both games against the Browns last year.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Still don't like the Browns left tackle situation. Still don't

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Speaker 1: think Joe Flacco at I don't think he's even what

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Speaker 1: he was in twenty twenty three, or you know, so

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Speaker 1: maybe he might not even be what he was in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. So I think that, you know, he's

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Speaker 1: kind of coming off this high, this high. I think

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Speaker 1: he had like a nine out of ten preseason showing

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Speaker 1: or something, so everyone's kind of, you know, it's the

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Speaker 1: calm before the Joe Flacco implosion. It's like when James

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Speaker 1: Will Jameis Winston has good fives and he's you know,

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Speaker 1: miked up, and he's he's hyping everybody up, and then

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Speaker 1: like he starts throwing footballs and you're like, oh, it's

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Speaker 1: this is end. I also think there is a little

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Speaker 1: bit of upside with this Bengal team because usually what

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Speaker 1: happens is Deshaun Watson actually went fifteen to seventeen against

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Speaker 1: the Bengals, and then I think that was the game

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Speaker 1: he got hurt. But that's the whole thing. Now they

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Speaker 1: have a new coordinator for the longest time they've had

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Speaker 1: Anna Roumo, and I feel like Stefanski eventually kind of

835
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Speaker 1: kind of was on the verge of figuring it out,

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Speaker 1: and now it's, you know, they're switching it up. They

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Speaker 1: got Henderson Hendrickson back in there.

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Speaker 2: They got some.

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Speaker 1: Younger guys, you know, some more some more speed in

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Speaker 1: the front seven. So I think this is this is

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Speaker 1: actually a good probably the best matchup the Bengals defense,

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Speaker 1: and might be the only time they're useful. But uh,

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Speaker 1: if they are going to take a step forward, and

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Speaker 1: you know, Ana Roumo was more of an issue than

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Speaker 1: than we kind of went on you it's it's also

846
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Speaker 1: like a nice bi low opportunity here against what I

847
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Speaker 1: think is the worst offense in the league, and they

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Speaker 1: don't have their you know, they're gonna be kind of

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00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: we doing and mixing and matching and running back. Left

850
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Speaker 1: tackle is still a mess. The line is a shell

851
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Speaker 1: of itself. The receivers are I mean, it's it's just

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Speaker 1: nobody might get open. It's except Fanning, our guy, our

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Speaker 1: guy Fanning. But it's it could be a mess. It

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00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 1: could be a man. The Bengals offense has played in

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Speaker 1: the preseason, so that means they could build a league

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Speaker 1: because you know what it usually happens. The Bengals just

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Speaker 1: ship the bet on offense and uh and kind of

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Speaker 1: keep teams in it. So I like everything about the

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Speaker 1: bank with the Bengals. I hate to say it because

860
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: it's disgusting, but I wanted to get your quick thoughts.

861
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 2: Kerner.

862
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: You think there's gonna be more there should be more

863
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: kick returns this year. Do you think it's gonna kind

864
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: of factor into how we to how we look at

865
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: these like streamers a little bit more like are you

866
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: gonna pay more attention to the returns? Because it seems

867
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,919
Speaker 1: like no one's gonna want to give up that touch

868
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: back on the kickoffs this year, so everyone's gonna be

869
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: You're gonna get more return opportunities. I don't know, you

870
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: think those are like the same probability of kind of

871
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: taking to the house as the old ones or are

872
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 1: you factoring that in at all?

873
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 2: I'm not factoring yet, but yeah, you make a good point,

874
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 2: and it might not move the Neil enough to be,

875
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 2: you know, really altering our rankings too much. But yeah,

876
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: that that would be another lay that we would certainly

877
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 2: need to check. But I was gonna say that, you know,

878
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 2: the Bengals, you know they're a bad defense. But when

879
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 2: it comes to projecting defense slash special teams, which you're

880
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: bringing up, really the most predictive things still are points

881
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 2: allowed this week against the Browns check and sacks check

882
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 2: because you know Trey Hendrickson he finally signed. If he

883
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 2: wasn't there, you wouldn't be able to use the Bengals

884
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: defense Shamar Stewart and it is hold out he's playing,

885
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 2: so you know, at least the defensive line should be

886
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: good enough to get you know, two to three sacks

887
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 2: and then touchdowns from that point are kind of lucky.

888
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 2: But like you said, if the Bengals build a lead

889
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 2: and now Flacco has to drop back forty to fifty times,

890
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 2: that just increases the chances of turnovers and pick sixes

891
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 2: and things like that. So that's all you want when

892
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 2: it comes to streaming defenses. So yeah, if you miss

893
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 2: out on the Cardinals, I think the Bengals this week

894
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 2: and maybe only this week, are solid option.

895
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: The reason I ring after a turn game is because

896
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: I also like the returner Charlie Jones, who also kind

897
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: of ran away with that number four receiver job, you know,

898
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: which is crazy because you know, yeah, they had Burton

899
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: and then you know, Timsley played really well, but it

900
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: seems like Jones going to be that number four. But

901
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: he returned to a punk for a touchdown his rookie year,

902
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: and then he returned to kick for a touchdown last year,

903
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: so that, you know, I think that that is something

904
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: you kind of want to It's not high probability, but

905
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,720
Speaker 1: for Jones it has been a little higher than the average.

906
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: So just a nice little bonus there, kind of pulling

907
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: me toward the Bengals. But fingers crossed kicker streamer, I

908
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: like this one.

909
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 2: I'm going with Cam Little available in sixty seven percent

910
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 2: of leagues, almost seventy percent, which is crazy because unless

911
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 2: you've been living under a rock, Cam Little made a

912
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 2: seventy yard field goal in the preseason with room to

913
00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 2: spare outdoors, so the longest kick ever made. Granted it

914
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 2: was preseason, but just goes to show that, you know,

915
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 2: they could trust this guy from any distance. Sure would

916
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 2: have loved that. With our Jaguars plus six and a

917
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 2: half bet. The other week they passed up a fifty

918
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 2: five yards bad. Don't get me going on the line,

919
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 2: but he would have been what ninety five percent to

920
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 2: make that one. I mean he made another long one

921
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 2: that game too. But I'm all in on Cam Little

922
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 2: to start the season. You got to add him. He

923
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 2: quietly had a good rookie season too. He made ninety

924
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 2: three percent of his kicks five for six from fifty,

925
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 2: so he's already shown accuracy from deep only turn twenty

926
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 2: two a couple of weeks ago. So I mean, this

927
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 2: could be the best kicker we've ever seen. Who knows.

928
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 2: And you know, the Jags offense should be better this

929
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 2: year under Liam Cohen. You know they have Tramps Hunter there.

930
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 2: So they're projected for almost four more points per game

931
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 2: this year if you look at book odds. And the

932
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,760
Speaker 2: Jaguars face the Panthers this week, they have the seventh

933
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 2: highest team total, so i'll and they're at Cincinnati next

934
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 2: week which could be a shootout. So yeah, I like

935
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 2: starting the season with Can Little and he might be

936
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,240
Speaker 2: a top five kicker the rest of the way because

937
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 2: anytime they get across the fifty, they might let him

938
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 2: attempt to kick at this point.

939
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kyramid again, you know, we talked about William Conell out,

940
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: but this is the perfect matchup. Uh you know last

941
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: year he was in Week one, they were playing the

942
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: Commanders and it was kind of a middling team total

943
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: for the for the Bucks, and they ended up I

944
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,919
Speaker 1: think putting thirty seven thirty seven points in that game.

945
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: And so I could see something similar happening. I mean,

946
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: this panther defense not very good. Yeah, and uh so

947
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: for everyone out there, you know, yeah, we recommended a

948
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: lot of Jaguars. Don't but just pick up the best option.

949
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: Like if if you end up, you know, if it's

950
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: Lawrence and Little, don't worry about it, Like those are

951
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: the best options. Don't worry about the correlation, don't. You don't. Also,

952
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: you don't have to seek it out. Don't like, oh

953
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: well I got Larren, so now you know, get what

954
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna get, like the little if there's even a

955
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: better kicker available. But yeah, a lot of Jags. So

956
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: I just wanted to point that out because I know

957
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: a lot of people always ask, like, you know, the correlations.

958
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: Just play your best guys each and every week. Don't

959
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: worry about the correlations in redraft is my in West.

960
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: There are times you can kind of do like get

961
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: into the weeds with that, but that's it's it's weak one.

962
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: You just want to kind of add the highest and

963
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: play the best guys. But for me, Jake Elliott, he's

964
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 1: available by half yeahoo leagues. And the thing about the Eagles,

965
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: and I know, I know there's you know, there could

966
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: be some rain, so that's again something to watch. But

967
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 1: I just don't see how the Eagles still don't put

968
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 1: up a ton of points and points Eagles kicker value.

969
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: Philly put up forty one and thirty five against Dallas

970
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: last season. Both games, Elliott had multiple field goals attempts

971
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: and made them, and he had four plus pat attempts

972
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: and made him. So he went combined four for fourign

973
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: field goals and nine of nine on as if if

974
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: there's you know, if the weather could also be a

975
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 1: positive for the kicker, you know, maybe that maybe Jalen

976
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: Hurts is a little rusty and misses a couple to

977
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 1: to a J. Brown that would have been touchdown. So

978
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let that move me off when I

979
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 1: have the Eagles with super high team toted, especially after

980
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: the Cowboys trading Michael Parsons, So like Elliott, if he's available,

981
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 1: he's another option. But I do like Little because I

982
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,919
Speaker 1: think just like we saw Aubrey a couple of years

983
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: ago where they just kind of moved the move the

984
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: you know, it's like it's just kind of moving the

985
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: needle on what you would expect from a kicker. It's

986
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: like all of a sudden Aubrey anytime it's out of

987
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 1: the fifties, like let it fly, and so the jag, Yeah,

988
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: Little I could see kind of the same same type

989
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: of deal. So love him could be an uh, could

990
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: be the kicker one this year. I wouldn't put it

991
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: out of the question.

992
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 2: But yeah, I actually changed my own kicker model this

993
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 2: year to kind of adjust like teams are yeah, yeah, yeah,

994
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 2: we can't on the print. We don't talk about kickers

995
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 2: on it. Let me talk about it now then yeah, yeah,

996
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 2: like I do, like before the fifty expected field goals

997
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 2: and then beyond the fifty is more like the kicker coach,

998
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 2: you know, dynamic, and after a guy booms the seventy

999
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 2: yarder some like that, my model goes way up. So

1000
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 2: he was kicker twenty three in my old model, and

1001
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 2: he's kicker five this week in my new model. I

1002
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 2: like the new model much much better.

1003
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome.

1004
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought I was the only one.

1005
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 1: I was embarrassed even talking. But yeah, I have a

1006
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: I have a model for kicker attempts fifty plus, a

1007
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,720
Speaker 1: kicker accuracy fifty plus, and then a sole separate model

1008
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 1: for inside for forty to fifty, and then another separate

1009
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: model for chip shots like accuracy and attempts, because yeah,

1010
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: it's a it's a team oriented and it matters for

1011
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: the kicker because like if you just use one model,

1012
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: like certain teams are just not gonnattempt kick long kicks

1013
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,479
Speaker 1: with certain kickers because like they can't hit those kicks,

1014
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: and like you gotta kind of capture that. And with

1015
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 1: guys like a guy like little, we know that he

1016
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: can capture it. He just suffered last year because the

1017
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: jack sucked. So there's if they make that four point

1018
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: I mean four, I mean we have Colin what he

1019
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: lo was it the bucks twenty twenty and a half

1020
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: to twenty nine a half? They jumped nine, so four

1021
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: might even be selling him short. But it's it's a meating.

1022
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: I get it. But yeah, I could see can Widdill

1023
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: be in the Kicker one? Remember Baits? We were talking

1024
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: about Baits last season. I was like, yeah, dude, this

1025
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 1: guy Baits is like that's all you need. And then

1026
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: Reiker was killing it for a while, like he's yeah records,

1027
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: that was a new flavor record.

1028
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he was on pace to just be phenomenal.

1029
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 2: So who knows if the injury impacted him. But yeah,

1030
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 2: and look, I give Kicker shit before the season. Just

1031
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 2: because I say don't drafting doesn't mean I don't take

1032
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 2: the projection seriously. Once we get to week one, we

1033
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 2: need to know who to stream. So now I'm like

1034
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 2: all in on Kicker projections. So hopefully we get picked

1035
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 2: this up next week because I want to. I want

1036
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 2: to dive in more on Kicker projections.

1037
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Oh we can talk about it. I'm now

1038
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 1: that you're now that you're doing the fifty thing. Oh man,

1039
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: we got a lot to talk about. But that's gonna

1040
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: do it. And this is what you're gonna get all

1041
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 1: year wrong. But uh, it's gonna be accurate. Uh, It's

1042
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: been accurate. It's gonna keep being accurate. We're gonna, we're gonna,

1043
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna do all this kind of research every week

1044
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,560
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1045
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 1: every position, UH so you can win your leagus uh.

1046
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:25,200
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1047
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1048
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1049
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1050
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,399
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1051
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1052
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,759
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1054
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,520
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1055
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 1: in the postseason last year with those, so uh really

1056
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 1: excited for that. We'll have our guy Joe Gallant on

1057
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: for that as well, so a known touchdown degenerate, so

1058
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,560
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