1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stupidity, home of the greatest media mind ever 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: to walk the planet. 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 2: Okay, sure, here's the deal. He's a true icon in 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 2: every sense of the word. 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: He's loved and feared more than any being to Grace's planet. 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 1: There's got a bed with a voice that sounds like 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: Verry White. 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 2: And be got to say, Hey, let's do it. 9 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: Baby got himself would pay thirty nine ninety nine for 10 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: a cameo. Fact of the matter is, you are about 11 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: to embark on a transcendent experience that can only be 12 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: described as psychological nudity. 13 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 2: This is stox and this is stupidity. Here we go, 14 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 2: Jim to Sister Gots. I was watching how many parts 15 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: is this America's Team documentary? On Netflix? Is at like 16 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: nine or ten parts? I think it's eight parts. I 17 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: also started watching it last night. I could be I 18 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: have no idea. I think it's eight parts though. Well, 19 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 2: I thought it was funny because you know, the Patriots 20 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 2: had theirs obviously, and the amount of winning that they did. 21 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: Most people would say is like, yeah, you're gonna grab 22 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: onto that. That's what you're gonna make your story about. 23 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 2: I was laughing because the Cowboys is just like the 24 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 2: most valuable franchise and sport. That's what they're they're hanging 25 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: their heat on. We are the most valuable franchise in sports. 26 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: That makes us better than them. But honestly, like when 27 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 2: they started telling that story of Jerry Jones and like 28 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: before he bought the team and what he was in 29 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 2: Arkansas and everything else, that got me hooked right away, man, 30 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 2: Like that that's a richer story than any of these. 31 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 3: Other ones that we've seen lately. I mean, he was 32 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 3: running out of money, is he? And he bought one 33 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 3: final oil well and I think it was eight hundred 34 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 3: thousand dollars and he turned that eight hundred thousand dollars 35 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 3: into one hundred million dollars and then bought the Dallas 36 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 3: fucking Cowboys. 37 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: Jeez, And he said he was gonna do that too. 38 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: The wild thing dude. He described the sound spoiler alert 39 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: for anybody who wants to go and not have any 40 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: spoilers whatsoever. But he described when they were drilling that 41 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: well so well that it made me, like it made 42 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 2: me start thinking, well, wait a second, Like is that 43 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: the earth yelling and saying please don't do this? Like 44 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 2: what is oil wells? And like, is there more depth? 45 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: Because he said something to the effect that only God 46 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 2: knows what's down there, and I was just like, what 47 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 2: the hell is down there? Like that just to Cowboys. Yeah, 48 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: that took me out a whole different Dan. But the 49 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 2: idea that this dude out of nowhere from Arkansas who 50 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 2: didn't really like have a connection to Texas, but the 51 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: Cowboys were just obviously like had grown into America's team 52 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 2: and he comes in here in like I think nineteen 53 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 2: eighty eight and just takes the team and honestly, like, 54 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 2: I didn't really know all that history that well, and 55 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: it was really cool to start to watch to have 56 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 2: a finish watching it. But I don't know if I 57 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: have more respect for him, but I understand him a 58 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: little better. You have to have more respect for him. 59 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 3: I'm wondering if you found yourself liking Jerry Jones because 60 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 3: you forgot all the stuff that went into him getting 61 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 3: the Cowboys and then turning the Cowboys into a championship team. 62 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 3: The first move he made as the Cowboys owner was 63 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 3: to fire a legend did Tom Landry and announced Jimmy 64 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 3: Johnson as the head coach. 65 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 2: Another thing I didn't know. Maybe he was going through 66 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: a little like losing his mind. Tom Landry like maybe 67 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: he was forgetting plays, maybe he was forgetting stuff. So 68 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 2: I think maybe it was time. But the Jimmy Johnson 69 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: connections also, you know, intriguing and interesting, and the fact 70 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: that he was college friends with him, the fact that 71 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: he wanted him right away. They did like a mini 72 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: documentary on the damn Hurricanes at that first episode of 73 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 2: What and So that connection is pretty damn cool too. 74 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 2: To see Jimmy, who doesn't really like to do these 75 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: things anymore, to sit and be interviewed for it was 76 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 2: pretty cool. 77 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 3: He seemed thrilled to do this one. He really did 78 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: to talk about how he put that team together. They 79 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 3: traded herschel Walker that helped them get him at Smith. 80 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 3: A lot of people mock them for the trade because 81 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 3: at the time Herschel was the only good player they had. 82 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: But very few people knew that if. 83 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 3: They just cut the five players they traded to get 84 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 3: you know, four herschel Walker from the Vikings, they would 85 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 3: get picks for each one of the guys that they cut, 86 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 3: and so they use those picks and they turned it 87 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 3: into a championship team. I found myself I can't believe 88 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 3: I'm saying this because he seems like a loon. 89 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: Many many years later, I found myself liking Jerry Jones. 90 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 3: Like that documentary made Jerry Jones likable at least in 91 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 3: the beginning. 92 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 2: Is he I was gonna say, you're only a couple 93 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 2: of episodes in too, so that's not me because it's 94 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 2: probably pat again. Yeah, yeah, there's probably stuff later in 95 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: the dock that they'll probably dance around, but they're gonna 96 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: have to touch on with him. But I find him 97 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 2: a little bit more likable. I always knew he was 98 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 2: like the you know, from your bootstraps type of guy, 99 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 2: and like that was his story, but I didn't realize 100 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: it was like that kind of out of nowhere. And 101 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 2: it did remind me of used to because he said 102 00:04:55,080 --> 00:05:02,239 Speaker 2: his gift from God was to be able to borrow money. Yeah, wow, 103 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: what a gift man of all here, I got a 104 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 2: good nose that was like, no, I'd rather have the 105 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 2: ability to borrow money, like Jesus. It's a good ability man. 106 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 2: He's a salesman that that's probably why you bonded with 107 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 2: him immediately. It's like, you know what, I didn't know 108 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 2: that about him? That's my guy. Listen. 109 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 3: I like any guy who's down to his last eight 110 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars and he puts it all into an 111 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 3: oil well and he turns a nine point two million, 112 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 3: ninety nine point two million dollar profit on said well 113 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 3: and then turns it and parlays it into the Dallas Cowboys. 114 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: And that I think, is he What did he buy 115 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 3: the Cowboys for? I think it was ten million dollars, right. 116 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 2: I remember being in the hundred, like one hundred and 117 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 2: fifty million something like that. Taylor can check that for us. 118 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 4: I just looked it up. 119 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 5: It's one hundred and fifty million that he bought him 120 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 5: a ten million dollars. 121 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 3: I'm going to steal back to the forties. I mean, 122 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 3: did you feel bad for Tom Landry? By the way, 123 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 3: one hundred thousand people showed up on the streets of 124 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 3: Dallas when Tom Landry retired for a parade for Tom Landry, 125 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 3: And I'm. 126 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,679 Speaker 2: Thinking, man, that is late. So I also thought to myself, 127 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 2: I would like to be down to my last three 128 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 2: hundred million dollars at some point, because that means I 129 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: had more than that, even if it wasn't mine. I 130 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 2: just want to see that in my bank account. Yes, 131 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 2: but he is. I haven't gotten to episode two yet. 132 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: I'm very intrigued by the Michael Irvin of it all, 133 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 2: Like a lot of those details about his time with 134 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 2: the Cowboys, and they're exposing his like drug use and 135 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 2: all that stuff. Not too sharp on that I'm gonna be. 136 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be sort of relearning all that stuff on 137 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 2: the fly. 138 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 3: That's gonna be fun. Same, I'm relearning all of it 139 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 3: on the fly. I'm at the point where they won. 140 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 3: You know, they're they're winning super Bowl. So I haven't 141 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 3: gotten to the scandalous part yet because the winning cures everything. 142 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 3: So is there another coach if he retired today that 143 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 3: one hundred thousand people would show up to a parade 144 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 3: because simply because he retired, Like well, there was. 145 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: That whole Like it was just the phenomenon of America's team, 146 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 2: Like they had come out of kind of nowhere the NFL, 147 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 2: and it just kind of took over. As they weren't 148 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 2: winning every year, but they were seemingly getting to the 149 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: super Bowl all the time, and you know, Texas makes 150 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 2: everything bigger, so they were. It was pretty damn huge 151 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 2: for Tom Landry. So I don't think there's I mean 152 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 2: Greg Popovich and San Antonio. I mean they'll definitely line 153 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 2: the river walk with people. I don't know about hundreds 154 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: of thousands. 155 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 6: I think it would all depend on not only how 156 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 6: good they were, but what kind of atmosphere, what kind 157 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 6: of town it is that so like a small place 158 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 6: like San Antonio, you might have a lot of people. 159 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 4: I was trying to think how many people would show. 160 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 6: Up if Andy Reid retired for Kansas City, because Kansas 161 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 6: City is a smaller area. 162 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 4: But nobody would have done that for Belichick. 163 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: No, no, if. 164 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 5: Belichick retired after the Rams Super Bowl and then Brady 165 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 5: didn't go off and win one in Tampa Bay, I 166 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 5: think he gets that kind of turnout. But I think 167 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 5: Brady winning with Tampa Bay kind of I don't want 168 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 5: to saying hurt Belichick's legacy, but it certainly didn't help. 169 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 3: So Belichick does it right after winning that Super Bowl 170 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 3: and calls it a day. You think one hundred thousand 171 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 3: people come out to celebrate Bill Belichick. 172 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 2: I mean that's not Yeah, you didn't think about it. 173 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 2: It's not that it's a college stadium full of people, 174 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 2: So I think they would, Oh no, listen. 175 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 6: You're doing that. It's also in the winter time in Boston, right, 176 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 6: one hundred thousand people. 177 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 3: Yes, that's a lot, which is why if you do it, 178 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 3: like if if Riley ever retired, there's no way one 179 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 3: hundred thousand people are going out in ninety nine degree 180 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 3: heat and it feels like one hundred. 181 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 2: And ten vound here. That's not definitely not You got 182 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 2: to do that thing inside somewhere. Mikey A brings up 183 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 2: a good point, and I think I'm going to do 184 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: this for the rest of time. Whenever I have conversations 185 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 2: with people, I'm just going to say, yeah, I'm down 186 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 2: to my last three hundred million, because technically you're always 187 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 2: down here three hundred million, right, So it's like, wow, 188 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 2: you have to no, no, just down to my last 189 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 2: three hundred million. What am I going to do? I 190 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 2: don't know. I gotta be really impressed by that. 191 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 3: It's like, wow, Uh, there was a time, Mikey where 192 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 3: a hundred thousand people would have showed up for Rich 193 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 3: go Tight to get fired, and they would have showed 194 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 3: up for the parade to celebrate it. 195 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 4: I'm serious. 196 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 6: You could you name more people that would show up 197 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 6: for a coach to be fired than to celebrate a 198 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 6: coach after you retired, because I think it'd be easier 199 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 6: to do that. 200 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: Oh. 201 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 3: I mean, there was a time where I think one 202 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 3: hundred thousand Eagle fans would have shown up to Sirianni 203 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 3: getting fired. 204 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 4: I think you could still get seventy five thousand. 205 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 2: Now they might show up if he retires. 206 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 5: I mean, stup while you think of some names that 207 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 5: would show up for a coach getting fired. I have 208 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 5: the numbers from the Patriots Super Bowl parade in twenty 209 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 5: nineteen and estimated one point five million fans took to 210 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 5: the streets of Boston for that parade here. 211 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 2: More than hundreds of thousands. 212 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, but that's also to celebrate a Super Bowl, not 213 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 6: to celebrate someone leaving. 214 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 5: But if you put Belichick on like like one of 215 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 5: those thrones and you're carrying him around and that's his 216 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 5: send off, people are coming out to that the pope. 217 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I think you can fill up a stadium 218 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 2: for people trying to get Billy Napier fired right now. 219 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh you're right, so you're right, like right now, 220 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 3: you could, but that could change so quickly they're seven 221 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 3: to oh, forget it. 222 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean DJ lag I just found out 223 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 2: that the backup for DJ Lagway potentially is from Yale. 224 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: Oh doesn't really inspire much confidence to transfer from Yale 225 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 2: and put it on the pole. 226 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 3: Do you want your backup quarterback to be from Yale? 227 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 5: Not me? 228 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: But uh yeah, man, I think I think DJ Lagway 229 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 2: and the Gators are probably cooked. Like, I don't think 230 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 2: you're a week or so away from your season starting 231 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 2: and you're just talking about progress with your quarterback finally throwing. 232 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 2: It's not gonna work out. 233 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, Speaking of the Gators, Johnny crowd are going to 234 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 3: join us here in about fifteen minutes. 235 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 2: Mikey A, he's a. 236 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 3: Former What do you make in a face for he's 237 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 3: a former Florida Gator? Channing Crowner. 238 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 6: I thought that was another show I'm combining too. 239 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, what'd you make here of Shane Steichen, who 240 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 3: was the offensive coordinator for the Eagles hired as the 241 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 3: head coach for the Indianapolis Golts. 242 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 2: He's the quarterback whisperer. 243 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 3: He's the guy who can make any guy into a 244 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 3: great quarterback. 245 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 2: They take a guy in Anthony Richardson and. 246 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 3: By their own admission, They said, this guy's a work 247 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 3: in progress. 248 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: It's gonna take time. He has raw. 249 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 3: Ability, And because Stikeen's job is on the line and 250 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 3: Chris Ballard's job is on the line, they decide to 251 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 3: go the safe route. Not with Anthony Richardson, the guy 252 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 3: they draft and the guy Shiking was supposed to turn 253 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 3: into a great quarterback. They go with the guy that 254 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 3: Brian day Ball said, get the hell out of here. 255 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: I don't want you anymore. They go with Daniel Jones. 256 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 3: The whole thing is confusing, and Shiking should be ashamed 257 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 3: of himself. 258 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 6: It's amazing to me, Like this Guyiking, I like, how 259 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 6: you stiking it? 260 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 2: I throw a little ut. 261 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 4: He'd be like, yeah, it's amazing to me. 262 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 6: How the thing that we all screamed from the mountaintop, 263 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 6: Like when when Anthony Richardson was coming out, everybody's like, 264 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 6: he's not ready. 265 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 4: He needs to go back to college. He's not ready. 266 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 4: He's he's a hell do anything in college. 267 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 6: He could get a. 268 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 5: Place. The first game against I believe it was against Utah, 269 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 5: there was a couple of players where you're like, oh 270 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 5: my god, like the Heinsman season might be on. And 271 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 5: then it kind of just all went downhill from there 272 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 5: because you gotta. 273 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 2: Win, right, because win not an accurate thrower of the football. 274 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 2: The thing is is, though, what is Daniel Jones particularly 275 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 2: good at? Like Daniel Jones is kind of a sneaky athlete, 276 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: like fast, you know, straight up and down runner, has 277 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 2: a strong arm? Is he He's inaccurate too? Right? Isn't 278 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 2: that the thing with Daniel Jones. 279 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 6: He's kind of a little bit of a better version 280 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 6: and more experienced version of Anthony Richardson. Right, I mean, 281 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 6: but I could have picked a better place for him 282 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 6: to go than Indianapolis when he became a free agent, 283 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 6: because you don't have to change anything with that offense. 284 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 6: No matter who's a quarterback, you're running the same kind 285 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 6: of thing, and you're gonna have problems exactly. 286 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: That's the problem. You lower the ceiling some. If Anthony 287 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 2: Richardson is out there as explosive as he is, then 288 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 2: you have higher hopes for what you can do. But 289 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 2: if he's not ready, then you got to settle for something. 290 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 2: Like I don't hate the move because I don't have 291 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: a lot of faith in Anthony Richardson period. 292 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:50,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're trying to do this thing is where 293 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 3: they're saying, hey, we have not given up on Anthony Richardson, 294 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 3: but we're gonna start Daniel Jones for the year. 295 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: No, listen to me. You have given up on Anthony Richardson. 296 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 3: If you are announcing that Danny Times as your quarterback 297 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 3: for the entire season, then you have given up on 298 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson. 299 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 2: You're not announcing Joe Burrow to be your starter. 300 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 3: You're not announcing someone who's markedly better than Anthony Richardson 301 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,719 Speaker 3: or has more upside. You're announcing that Daniel Jones is 302 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 3: your starter for the season. But we still hold out 303 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 3: hope for Anthony Richardson. It doesn't matter out of Indianapolis, 304 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 3: and I hope the Jets get him. 305 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 2: It didn't matter if it was Daniel Jones life, as 306 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 2: long as it was somebody who another team has already discarded, 307 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 2: and now you're choosing that guy over your guy, then yeah, 308 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 2: you've one hundred percent given up on Anthony Richardson. Like 309 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 2: there's no recovering from that, right. But here's the thing. 310 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 3: They get rewarded if Daniel Jones is good and everyone 311 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 3: will forget that. 312 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 2: They use the fourth pick in the NFL Draft. 313 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 3: On Anthony Richardson, no one will remember that if Daniel 314 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 3: Jones turns out. 315 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 2: To be good, if Daniel Jones possibly be good, Like 316 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: we've seen what we can see from Daniel Jobs for 317 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 2: a playoff game. I mean that's why he got the 318 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 2: big contract. He got it off based on one playoff 319 00:14:58,800 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: game from Joe Jay. 320 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 5: I mean that kind of shows like how fast the 321 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 5: NFL could move, because in twenty twenty three, the Giants 322 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 5: beat the Vikings in the wild card game. The Giants 323 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 5: have Saquon Barkley, they have the coach of the Year 324 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 5: and Brian Dable, and they have what they believe is 325 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 5: their franchise quarterback in Daniel Jones. And now you're looking 326 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 5: at where the Giants are at and you're like, they're 327 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 5: not even close to competing anymore. And now Daniel Jones 328 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 5: is on his second team trying to or not his 329 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 5: second team since I guess he I think he was 330 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 5: technically a Viking last year. But yeah, it's crazy how 331 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 5: fast the NFL moves. Where people are now saying like, 332 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 5: maybe Daniel Jones can be good, when just two years ago, 333 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 5: the talk in New York and the talk on wfan 334 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 5: was like this is the guy. 335 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 2: So you're banking on if you're the cults the giants 336 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 2: being that bad, that oh look what happened to say 337 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 2: cron Barkley. Clearly we can do that with Daniel Jones. 338 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 2: That organization is trash. That's that's the argument you've got 339 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 2: to tell yourself other than because you can't just watch 340 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 2: the film apparently and decide what you what you need 341 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 2: to decide on Daniel Jones. 342 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 6: I can't wait for the moment when Daniel Jones gets 343 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 6: hurt and they have to now go back to Anthony 344 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 6: Richardson and say. 345 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 7: We believed in you the whole time. We were just 346 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 7: going to him for the year. That's it, right, You're 347 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 7: the confusing. Why are you announcing this for the entire season? 348 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 7: Who commits to Daniel Jones for the entire seaton? Nobody does? 349 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 7: I mean, that's the ic the oddest part, but the 350 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 7: entire season. 351 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 3: Daniel Jones does not deserve your support for an entire season. 352 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 2: He has not earned that. Okay, and he had a game. 353 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:37,479 Speaker 4: Waite amazing what like? In this preseason, he hasn't wowed everybody. 354 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 6: He hasn't been like, oh my god, well look how 355 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 6: good Daniel Jones. 356 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 4: Is like he was just slightly better than Anthony Richardson. 357 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 3: Yes, but I think the larger indictment here is how 358 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 3: come the quarterback guru hasn't developed the quarterback right? 359 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 2: Like? That always bothers me when you. 360 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 3: Hire the next quarterback whisperer who doesn't have the ability 361 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 3: to make any quarterback great, you know, and that's why 362 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 3: you got the job. 363 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 5: I'll say what we're all thinking. We throw out the 364 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 5: word quarterback guru way too frequent. 365 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 2: Thank you one of the rare times I was actually 366 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 2: thinking exactly what he said, Like I lose track of 367 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 2: how many of these guys are quarterback whispers and quarterback gurus, 368 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 2: Like when you said Shane Steik and I was just like, 369 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 2: is he really didn't know that? I'm gonna have to 370 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 2: put him on the list. 371 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 6: It's fun to say, if there was, how many quarterback 372 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 6: gurus do we have? 373 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 2: Like legit? 374 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 4: I can only think of one, Trent Dilfer, Kevin O'Connell. 375 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 2: I was thinking of Cliff Kingsbury, but he's not legit anymore. 376 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 2: He lost the title. Huh. 377 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 6: Kevin O'Connell won some games with some really quarterback, really 378 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 6: mediocre quarterbacks. Look really good. 379 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 2: What's his face in San Francisco get credit for making 380 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: quarterbacks better? Is it just a system that works. 381 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 3: Out Kyle Shanahan, Yeah, I think it's the system. They 382 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 3: also took Trey Lance and he's on his seventh team 383 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 3: right now, so if. 384 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 5: He was a whisper, would have been pretty good. 385 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 2: Yes, it's a spur A little harder to that one. 386 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 5: Sean Payton. Sean Payton whisper. 387 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 2: He's a whisperer. There's no Drew Brees would have been 388 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 2: just fine without Sean Payton. But I guess. 389 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 3: I think Bruce Arians is the guy right like I 390 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 3: think all time he's considered like the quarterback whisperer of 391 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 3: all time. I did Bruce Arians with a Keangle hat 392 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 3: a Scotch with a Super Bowl till it got Tom Brady, who. 393 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 2: Is the hip hop artist who famously wear a Kendle hat. 394 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 2: Huh reason I even know, no, not even clothes. Should 395 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 2: I know this? Maybe? I mean it's the only reason 396 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 2: I know why that hat is what it is. So 397 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 2: the fact that you dropped a Caangle hat, I was like, Oh, 398 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 2: you only know because of Bruce Arians? Okay, hello cool 399 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 2: j hell Hell, I should have known that. 400 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 5: When you think keangle hat, do you think Bruce arians 401 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 5: put it? 402 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 2: That's right up there with Isotona gloves? Do you think 403 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 2: Da Marino or O. J. Simpson? I definitely think Da Marino, 404 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 2: But that's because I'm from down here. I think of 405 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 2: I think of a different kind of glove. Right, So 406 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 2: he did OJ did Isotona glove? Ads? But once you 407 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 2: think of glove, you don't think of Isotona with him anymore. 408 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 2: Just think of black? 409 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 3: Right did Isottas that night? What like was it was 410 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 3: the glove that didn't fit? Was that an isotonin? 411 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 2: No? I think it was much more expensive. It's like 412 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 2: leather all the way there. Oh God. But if you're 413 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 2: a Pops fan, yeah, and they picked Daniel Jones for you, 414 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 2: like there's nothing they can They're right up there with 415 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 2: the Dolphins fans now right just thinking, I mean, it's 416 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 2: got to take a minor miracle to even have a 417 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 2: playoff team. 418 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 3: I well, it's tough. The NFL is so funny. I'm 419 00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 3: just I'm looking at their at their division. I I 420 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 3: mean it's the Titans, the Jaguars, the Colts of the Texans. 421 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 3: So you figure the Texans are gonna win that that division. 422 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 3: I guess the Colts could sneak in as a wild 423 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 3: card and a weird sport the NFL. 424 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I would say that's more likely for 425 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 2: the Jaguars because I mean, I'm just not in love 426 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 2: with this Colts roster, Like after Michael Pittman, Like who 427 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 2: they have at receiver, Josh downs Pears, I mean he's 428 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 2: all right. 429 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, but Jacksonville, I mean they have Trevor Lawrence. 430 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 4: Is the AFC South the most mediocre meth division. 431 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 5: It's always been. 432 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 6: Usually there's one team that you're like, well, it's a 433 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 6: bunch of met and then one really good team. But 434 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 6: like their best team is the Texans, and I'm like 435 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 6: they're met. 436 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, but too well, the Texans are men now because 437 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 3: two years ago they were exciting, they were young, they 438 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 3: were because because CJ. 439 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 6: Stroud was really good, and then CJ. Stroud came back 440 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 6: down to earth because oh yeah, you need an offensive 441 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 6: line when you have a quarter back, and they traded 442 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 6: their best one. They brought in everybody, like they called me, 443 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 6: they were like, hey, can you come try and block 444 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 6: p cgs Droud. 445 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 4: They brought in bodies to do they didn't I'm cut. 446 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 6: I couldn't even I couldn't even get off the bus 447 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 6: without being winded. But they just like they brought in bodies, 448 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 6: but they didn't, they didn't upgrade anything. They got rid 449 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 6: of their best scout and now they're like, well, we'll see, 450 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 6: we'll throw it all at the fan and see what works. 451 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 2: Well the whole thing. Like you mentioned the Jaguars stud 452 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 2: and like to me, they're more likely to have that 453 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 2: surprise like big season, the boomer Bus. Potential for them, 454 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 2: I think is is more more of a varying or 455 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 2: varies more than it does when you have Daniel Jones 456 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 2: as your quarterback. So if you had Anthony Richardson there, 457 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 2: you definitely have more hope, you have more potential. Now 458 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 2: it's just like your ceiling is so low and I 459 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 2: just don't have any faith in it. I don't care 460 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 2: how many one single playoff games. Daniel Jones is one. 461 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 2: But you've got you've got Trevor Lawrence being benched by 462 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 2: mid season, like you have no faith in the jag. 463 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 3: Well, listen, I have some faith in Trevor Lawrence. It's 464 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 3: Billy who has at Billy's been right the entire time. 465 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 3: But Billy has said since the get go that Trevor 466 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 3: Lawrence is no good and he's right up until now. 467 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 2: So we'll see if Trevor Lawrence can. 468 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 3: But but I'm kind of with Billy, like, at some 469 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 3: point you have to realize Trevor Lawrence isn't that good. 470 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 2: Number one Lawrence end up being a worse number one 471 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 2: overall pick than Baker Mayfield because Baker's gotten back to 472 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 2: Baker's were great. Yeah, Baker's been good and like Trevor 473 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 2: was supposed to be the can't miss candidate. 474 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, if the brown just held on to Baker, 475 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 3: they would have six quarterbacks right now. 476 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. 477 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 5: When I think of the AFC South, I think of 478 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 5: just some slop that they're putting on Thursday night football usually. 479 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, the AFC South should permanently be on Thursday night, Yes, permanently. 480 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 2: Put it off the poll. 481 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 3: Should all AFC South game permanently be on Thursday night football. 482 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 2: That would solve the issue of all those other teams 483 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 2: having short weeks. Like just they they're the Thursday teams. 484 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 6: They're also the team that when they get in the playoffs, 485 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 6: because one of them has to be in the playoffs 486 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 6: is always that Saturday at noon game. 487 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 2: They're always that first. That's where the Texans live. 488 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 3: They live on weekend Saturday noon at home when they lose. 489 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 2: I mean, Brian Oyer. Sometimes you need that though, like 490 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 2: you need to sort of soff like an entry into 491 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 2: the playoffs. You can't have the It can't have a 492 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 2: big game at noon on a Saturday in the playoffs. 493 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,479 Speaker 2: That's ridiculous. You gotta just like, hey, give me that 494 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 2: thirty five to ten blowout and just like, Okay, now 495 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 2: I know what I want to see. 496 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 6: Finally got the blowout of the out of the way. 497 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 6: Now we get three good games. Welcome to the playoffs. 498 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 2: Right, I'm not even certain it's a blowout. 499 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 3: It does like Ius, He's right, it's at noon, it's 500 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 3: on a Saturday, it's the first game. It's always the 501 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 3: AFC South and if to me it feels like a 502 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 3: regular season game. I'm not watching two teams who we're 503 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 3: going to go on to win the Super Bowl. That's 504 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 3: what that game should be called. It should not be 505 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 3: called the Wild Guard. You should be two teams not 506 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 3: advancing to the super Bowl. 507 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: Something like that. I don't know why, but I don't 508 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 2: believe in the Texans taking the next step until they're 509 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 2: not in that slot anymore. Does that make sense? Just 510 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 2: schedule them differently and then I'll be like, you know what, 511 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 2: I think they got a chance at something, But because 512 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 2: they're going to be in that slot, I'm like, they're 513 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 2: gonna be out next week, even if they win this week. 514 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 2: So Wildcard Weekend Texans, Sunday, one o'clock. You're sold, Texans 515 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 2: are Texans are way better, way better off if that's 516 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 2: their first game of actually trying to win a championship.