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Did you get one? 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:07.240 I certainly did get. 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:09.040 Have you brought it to the farmer's market? 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:12.280 You know, I have brought it to the farmers market 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:13.040 and you get. 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:14.680 One more avocado than normal? 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:18.840 You know, it definitely made me a little bit freer 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:21.760 with the spending, probably, to be honest. 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:25.919 More some room for the more the more robust charred. 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:28.120 It's probably not even poking out of the top. 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:30.799 Maybe you could even have a crazy one and get 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:31.760 the mango chutney. 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:35.120 Oh there could have been room for that. I I 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:39.120 must confess there's a little bit of charred stuck at 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:41.200 the bottom of the bag still. So I went this 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:42.400 Sunday to atwater. 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:44.480 It's going to wilts. That's going to wils. 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:46.359 You've got to take that chart out and get into 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:48.720 the fridge, or maybe clean it up with some water, 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:49.480 I would. 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:52.520 Say, baking soda. 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:56.880 I just read a really interesting article that's a chart 0:02:57.000 --> 0:03:01.239 is actually more acidic than we think it is. Say, really, yeah, 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:05.680 we understand most vegetables are base, but charred is one 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:06.560 of the acidic ones. 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:09.880 Well, I'll definitely be thinking twice the next time I 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:11.359 put it in my minestroni. 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:12.840 Interesting thing. 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:14.960 I love a minnestroni. 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:18.480 Nothing more better than you know. It reminds me of 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:22.160 when Grandma used to make ministroni when I was young. 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:26.639 She had a very specific recipe. She's a Russian Lithuanian 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:31.160 moved and migrated here my parents did, and so she 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:35.120 followed them. And you know, she still takes the country Lithuania. 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:39.080 Every time I saw her, I always was wondering, what 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:41.040 is this about her? And I recently took a trip 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:44.320 to Lithuanian and I realized so much of my life 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:45.960 was Lithuanian because my grandma. 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:48.400 Wow, your grandma's Lithuanian Minnestronian. 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:52.160 I think what's so funny about our culture is that 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:56.240 sometimes you'll be sipping on a bowl of minestrone, and 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:58.920 in a way, that's a bowl of your culture you're 0:03:58.920 --> 0:03:59.720 sipping in history. 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:03.440 I have read this recent book about the Minestroni index. 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:06.240 I love the Minestronian decks. 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:10.080 It's fantastic look at cultures and diasporas and the way 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:13.640 that you can judge a culture based on its minestronian 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:18.680 and they found in many ways the ingredients that make 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:22.600 up the minestrone reflect reflect the culture itself, and the 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:25.920 more ingredients in a minnestrone, the more diverse a culture too. 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:28.400 Well, in a way, I think that that cooking is 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:31.600 sort of it's almost like I like to say, a 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:36.440 font if you if you'll allow this metaphor, because a 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:40.039 font is the same word but typed a slightly different way. 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:42.800 And I think with minnestroni, we all bring a little 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:45.040 piece of ourselves to the table. So you know, I 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:46.240 enjoyed that book very much. 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:49.320 With the minestroni it did make me think of a 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:52.760 recent purchase I just made from an independent bookstore in 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:55.400 the back of an alley in London, and it's the 0:04:55.720 --> 0:05:00.719 soup Tarot Cards soup and the five of Us believe 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:02.919 it or not, is a cup of ministry. 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:06.480 Well, I just love it because I recently read a 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:11.920 small excerpt in a web magazine I follow called New 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:16.279 York New York It's beautiful kind of Indie, and it 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:19.200 was talking about the history of tarot cards and how 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:25.120 so much medieval culture is actually insinuated in the tarot card. 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:27.520 And as much as we try to move into a 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:32.000 more Roman Catholic understanding of the world, and now moving 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:36.800 past Roman Catholic into Agnosticism, we still have Druidic, Celtic, 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:39.960 Anglo Saxon type of ties. 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:44.440 That's very interesting to me because I actually just interviewed 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:49.520 LATINX graffiti artists who just released her own tarot cards. 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:55.440 Her name is Maya Fica. She's amazing Los Angeles and 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:59.279 she's making this incredible set of tarot cards that reflects 0:05:59.440 --> 0:05:59.960 her cult. 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:04.680 Sure, it's very interesting. I was actually speaking to a 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:08.880 I interviewed for a profile on the Streets of Las Vegas, 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:16.600 a non binary magician who is using tarot. As you know, 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:20.760 magicians kind of have always taken just the standard deck 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:25.440 of playing cards as the titular pick a card. But 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:29.359 this artist kind of challenges the notion of that and says, 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:32.080 what if we picked a tarot card, What if we 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:36.680 challenged the audience members to remember a card from a 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:37.960 different time difference? 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:39.400 Well, you said your. 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:40.240 Card, is this your future? 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:41.200 That's beautiful? 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:44.320 You said challenge And that made me think of yesterday. 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:48.240 I had a jasmine tea bag. Looked at the tea 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:51.080 bag and on on the tag of it it said 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:53.960 challenge yourself today. And I think it's funny you brought 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:58.000 up the sense and the idea of being challenged within 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:00.600 a deck of cards, because like we talk about culture, 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:03.960 and we talk about talking to our ancestors, and how 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:06.440 much of that is a challenge and how much of 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:08.000 that is a tea back? 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:12.080 Well, you mentioned ancestor. Well, I I was recently in 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:15.760 an ancestral ballpit. Have you been to an ancestral. 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:18.080 Ball Interesting they have the. 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:21.720 Hancock bark. 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:29.480 Yes, it's an ancestral ballpin, and it's sort of like 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:35.120 uh imagining it's it's done by a former employee of 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:38.720 the former designer of the McDonald's play Pet. 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:41.160 Place and Story. 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:42.320 Have you read that book about him? 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:46.360 It's an incredible really, I mean powerful incredible. 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:51.280 The opioid crisis has affected America in many ways and 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:54.280 in funky ways and in funky ways, and ballpit designers 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:57.240 are are not immune to that. And yeah, they found 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:01.720 themselves struck struck between the the jovial nature of the 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:05.880 ballpit and his ancestral ties to opioids. 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:09.120 And that is so interesting for me because I just 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:14.920 recently interviewed. Yesterday, I was interviewing Sukioheda, who is a 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:19.240 wonderful Japanese artist, a dear friend, and focused on joy 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:22.280 and Suki Waterhouse, we kind of had this wonderful debate 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:28.480 discussion about is joy appropriative or appreciative? If we're if 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:32.199 we celebrate joy in the Japanese classical sense of the word, 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:35.240 are we being appropriative with Japanese culture or are we 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:39.760 appreciating Japanese culture by ensuing and taking in joy? 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:43.160 Have you all ever had an authentic Japanese tea bag? 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:45.760 Yes, of course, yes. 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:49.040 It makes you think how many things are we repurposing 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:52.640 as Americans, even down to the water drop. 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:57.640 I mean incredible visual artist by the name of Chess Redcorn. 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:00.760 And he is, of course an indigit artist, and he's 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:05.000 a fantastic mas and he is making a lot of 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:10.000 incredible visual art, found object art, you know. And he's 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:13.319 repurposing those Native Americans that used to see outside of 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:17.000 cigar stores. He's building them out of fast food containers. 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:17.440 Interesting. 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:20.960 I just read a book on the origins. Do you 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:25.440 guys remember ten years ago when la was littered with 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:26.920 those angel statues? 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:27.280 Yes? 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:32.040 Yeah, I read a book on a woman who made 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:35.360 it her mission to visit each and while she made 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:37.000 it her mission, she's very friend of mine. 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:37.280 Yeah. 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:40.360 Really during that journey, Yes, her name is Bethany. Bethany, 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:43.959 during that journey she lost her mother. So the book 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:46.600 is this beautiful coffee table book and it's pictures of 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:51.920 each of the angels, and halfway through it's a beautiful 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:56.520 rest and reflection on loss. And then she goes right 0:09:56.559 --> 0:10:00.280 back into the angel statues. And I find that someone 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:02.400 makes a piece of art and something happens to them 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:04.360 in their life in the middle of making a piece 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:05.880 of art. I find that rich. 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:11.440 Text the context of an art really change, Yes, it 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:15.280 changes the meaning of the art. And it's interesting. I 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:19.760 was talking to this painter who has been painting old 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:26.320 toilet paper squares and they have been recontextualizing this toilet 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:27.319 paper square. 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:30.880 To American American toilet paper. 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:36.400 Yes, but appellation got deep, deep appellation. I expected a 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:43.520 deep appalation artist who has these toilet paper squares and 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:47.400 they have been insulating their home with them. Now, because 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:50.959 it is not just the paintings that we paint for aesthetics, right, 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:56.280 is also the paintings we paint to re contextualize our home. 0:10:56.480 --> 0:11:00.240 We talk about the home. You know, you guys, guys 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:02.760 read Roxanne's Roxanne Gay's new book about Home. 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:06.120 Yes, and of course I've read a few excerpts and 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:07.120 I haven't dived in fully. 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:07.960 It's a beautiful book. 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:09.839 I mean the concept of home, what is it? And 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:12.040 what are we? And where are we when we are home? 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:15.240 And how home can feel so alien to so many people. 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:20.319 I actually, you know that's so beautiful because the Mocha 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:24.480 is doing a beautiful exhibit on the African diaspora. Are 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:28.000 you curious? Oh, you curated that amazing. 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:31.920 But you that's interesting that you claimed that you curated it. 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:36.120 Because well, I talk about that. I read a Facebook 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:40.520 post the other day about how sometimes friendship can be 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:43.679 stronger than what you do in the new world. In 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:47.080 internet world, sometimes you can feel the brain feels that 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:49.760 you've done something even when you're seeing a friend do 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:54.880 it online. The same type of endorphins your brain will 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:55.320 release it. 0:11:55.440 --> 0:12:02.640 Yes, there's a Siberian Siberian psychologist who talks about a 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:09.160 yogo o no yes, oh yeah, and they yeah, yoko no. 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:14.120 And they talk about the the the value and the 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:18.600 importance of weak ties. Right, the weak ties. The male 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:20.640 man that you say hi to, the grosser that you 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:24.600 say hi to, the the woman pushing her cart around 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:26.680 at the same time that you are pushing your baby. 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:30.480 It's these structures that sort of create the fabric of 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:33.400 human existence and create the fabric of connections. 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:35.400 You know, I just feel like I've been attacked right 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:37.800 where you guys were talking that I claimed credit. 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:40.280 You said that you had curated it. I just and 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:41.320 then it was your friend. 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:45.400 I just, please don't scream at me. I was, you know, 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:49.240 simply enacting something that people have been calling cyber osmosis. 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:54.120 And cyber osmosis is the act of absorbing something from 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:56.960 the internet into your own psyche, because what's happening is 0:12:57.240 --> 0:13:00.160 we used to be output, output out, but now the 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:02.000 Internet has shifted to be input. 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:03.400 Input input, So oh, that's fascinating. 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:07.880 It happens. It's a natural, reoccurring, reoccurring phenomenon, and many 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:10.600 people are saying it's an evolutionary trait. So if I 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:13.760 were to steal something from the Internet, some scientists are saying, 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:17.600 that is your body evolving to the current state of 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:18.120 what's going on. 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:20.720 Well, I've heard of you seen these gen zs that 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:23.760 are doing a whole deep dive on what used to 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:27.040 be the ice Bucket Challenge and the way that their site, 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:30.680 what was the word cyber moosis cyber asthmosis in it, 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:33.360 And I think that's fascinating because it reminds me. I 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:35.960 drop off my daughter every Saturday morning at an African 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:41.880 drum circle congratulations, and it's that has been so interesting 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:48.520 to see my daughter experience creativity, not cyberly, yeah, and 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:50.920 not through an algorithm for her to go see a 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:54.800 drum circle. And the way she said, Mama, mama, we 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:57.200 passed the sound around and I went, how far off 0:13:57.280 --> 0:13:59.680 is that from passing with the algorithms sound that's so 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.199 and passed around you. 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:06.199 I'm I'm sure you may be aware of this. This 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:09.920 this physical theater piece that is taking place outside of 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:16.040 Squirrel Cafe and Virtual Village, and they take they're trying 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:19.120 to bring people from the digital space into the physical 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:22.320 space who may not otherwise have access to the physical space, 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:25.840 and so they are doing meme theater. So they are 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:31.040 re enacting sort of Damn Daniel, bad news Greg or 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:34.280 bad luck Brian per Se. I should say bad luck Brian. 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:37.520 Bad news Greg is what I call my husband sometimes 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:40.000 when he has terrible news. He has a lot of 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:43.360 bad news. He's he's an environmental scientist and that. 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:46.080 Must just be every day bad newsist Greg. 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:48.640 Yeah, and he's a he's an environmental scientist and a 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:52.240 huge pessimist. So sometimes it's hard to filter out what 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:55.600 is coming from science and what is sort of his 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:57.000 negative outlook. 0:14:56.600 --> 0:15:01.000 On life pessimist. You don't know why I got. 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:03.320 They got didn't know, No, you don't know which started 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:07.160 pessimist or did they get into you know, it's sometimes 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:12.120 I I feel that the siren call of the environmental 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:25.000 science was was allure to his pessimism. 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:26.640 I mean, this is so funny. It's like it reminds 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:30.000 me of my husband, who is a big, big he 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:35.440 loves commitment, loves pattern yet he's a substitute teacher. He 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:38.840 doesn't have a place to go to bed worless and 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:42.200 you go, how did that happen? The the natural contradictions 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:45.000 that come with our human being and our soul and 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:45.960 the job we attach. 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:48.960 Yes, it's very similar. You know. I went into a 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:52.360 plant based butcher shop the other day and they were 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:55.160 drinking out of styrofoam cups, and it was an interesting 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:58.640 dichotomy because it was we are preserving the environmental because 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:01.040 of me. You know, we're not meat. I'm cutting you. 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:04.600 This is that is that, this is this is faux 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:10.480 hogis and fair fact. I love their sixty day age 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:12.760 Tofu that they hang in the bash of the store 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:15.520 and if you get it cut off in the beginning 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:17.200 of the day, they'll give you a piece that is 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:18.160 just right. 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:20.640 Off the sham. Is delicious. 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:23.720 Oh. I went to the Fogies Fogies they had that 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:27.040 event for the Boys and Girls Club Fogeys and Bogies 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:29.120 and it was that golf day and I thought that 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:30.800 was incredible, and I thought we got to see a 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:33.560 lot of kids play golf and get something I don't see. 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:37.800 I remember seeing a kid make an eagle and then 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:42.200 bite into a gigantic tofu hogy and I thought, this 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:43.520 is the future I want to see. 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:45.520 Like that's that's that's impressive. 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:49.400 Your privileged youth golfing and eating play it based meat. 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:50.320 Absolutely. 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:55.640 Have you guys been to the the pottery class that 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:59.720 is remote and you have to find it class. 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:01.400 Bringing a whole new meaning to their word to remote. 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:03.480 It's called throw away right and. 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:09.800 Throwing when I've seen kids now start to do this, 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:13.000 and it's fun to see the youth experience art that 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:13.800 doesn't have a place. 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:15.480 It's very exciting to see that. 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:20.600 It's interesting how hide and Seek can can play a 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:23.400 role in the things that we do every day. 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:25.240 Hide and Seek, it's amazing. 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:27.560 Have you guys read that xpoze you I mean a 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:29.119 good friend of ours who works with us. Oh, of 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:30.639 course we all know them, Derek. 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:36.520 Blossom when he went undercover as a kitchen. 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:42.040 Kidd and seek game and that that that is an incredible. 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:44.159 And if you haven't read Derek Blossom's work, I encourage 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:47.280 you to check it out. It's really quite quite remarkable. 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:51.119 He found a way to be found in seven hundred 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:55.440 different children's Hide and Seek games, and he found sort 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:59.760 of as an anthropological study, the way that human scientists 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:03.679 will enmesh themselves in the social dynamics of apes. He 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:06.840 did the same thing with child's birthday parties all across 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:07.200 the country. 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:09.920 There's no talent like blossom and. 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:11.760 Hide and seekrets so many the children. I don't know, 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:12.400 if you guys. 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:15.280 Have read the Yeah I have Modern. 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:20.800 Then you know Modern philos for Shill God Yes book 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:25.159 about how directly attaching Hide and Seek to different types 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:28.639 of attachment. Right, So, so if you were the seeker 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:32.720 obviously anxious attached, if you were the hyder avoiding attached 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:36.920 so brilliant, and if you played both and then namely 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:39.119 sat on the side to let other people play that 0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:43.320 secure attachment. So instead of asking when you're on these dates, 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:45.119 you know, and we haven't even gotten into dating. 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:47.679 We haven't even gotten into I can't, we haven't. 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:48.440 We can't believe. 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:50.640 We'll be right back with more MPR. But right now, 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:53.119 here's a couple of our upcoming shows that you'll be 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:55.000 seeing this week on NPR. 0:18:56.119 --> 0:19:00.119 Tune in for five minutes of Science. That is a 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:05.720 bite sized piece of information on the newest and Little 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:08.480 Moon Science News. 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:13.840 Hi. I'm Jeff, I'm Pill and we're motorcycle boys. We'll 0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:16.840 be talking all things motorcycles for four hours. You call 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:18.840 them with any of your questions and we will help 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:21.280 you out. But make sure that thing goes room room 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:21.960 at the end of the day. 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:25.240 I'm Derek Single. 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:28.159 I'm coming to you live from a theater in Minnesota 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:31.040 playing everyone's main room news talk show. 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:35.720 You better say that again. Yeah, that's right. 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:38.879 Seven hundred people are inexplicably in a theater to watch 0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:41.000 us do a game show about you. 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:41.879 Guys. 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:47.000 Calm down, It's okay, guys, let's try something. Pete heck 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:50.400 seth and that's the joke. 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:54.280 I'm Cycle so Sorrow and I'm the host of the Nightly. 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:57.560 What happened today? Are you too busy at work? The 0:19:57.640 --> 0:20:01.439 Nightly's gonna tell you whose birthday was to and what 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:03.280 happened in the world. 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:06.560 I'm Carl Saint Clair on News Today. We've got Trump 0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:10.200 has decided to blow up all of America and other news. 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:13.600 I ran deals have fallen apart, and the Chinese government 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:16.359 has decided to completely cut ties with all of the 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:19.640 Middle East. This could be catastrophic for you, your family 0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:21.199 and your war. But we will say it a very 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:23.560 calm mode. That's news tonight with Carl. 0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:27.560 And I'm Regina Martini and I'm trying every pancake in 0:20:27.760 --> 0:20:29.119 Saint Louis, Missouri. 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:32.560 Look back with more power. 0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:34.120 Those we have some great shows later. 0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:40.600 That's amazing because I read a very interesting piece about 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:44.919 Saint Louis recently. How recently in the eighties it was 0:20:45.000 --> 0:20:48.919 the the thriving bell of the ball of the United 0:20:48.920 --> 0:20:52.520 States in the south southern United States. But now due 0:20:52.560 --> 0:20:58.280 to the shifting film, film and food markets, Saint Louis 0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:01.159 has become kind of it's had its own dust ball. 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:02.119 It's completely empty. 0:21:02.280 --> 0:21:02.480 Wow. 0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:04.800 Read that humorous essay. 0:21:05.840 --> 0:21:08.560 Yeah, yeah, I've seen it too. 0:21:09.480 --> 0:21:15.000 Ava Luisa Garda Farica. It's it's it's very very hysterical. 0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:19.760 It is well, it's sesus brilliant it is. It's a satirical, 0:21:19.880 --> 0:21:21.640 humorous essay from the point of view of the Saint 0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:24.119 Louis arch going through one hundred years of history. 0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:27.159 Now I must explain I'm sorry to jump on your toes. 0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:32.600 She is not literally purporting to be the Saint Louis Art. 0:21:33.119 --> 0:21:38.080 He is, of course, assuming a character humors take humorous 0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:40.359 send up of the Saint Louis Arch. She is not 0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:47.080 literally claiming to be the Saint Louis Arch, because there's 0:21:47.240 --> 0:21:50.040 no way that for that to literally happen. So I 0:21:50.119 --> 0:21:52.600 just want to make sure that everyone knows not a 0:21:52.680 --> 0:21:53.400