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Speaker 1: Hey there, and welcome to Software at Rodeo on time

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Speaker 1: that's it. I'm standing in for Brandon again this week,

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Speaker 1: some stage. Well, what I'm gonna talk about this week, Well,

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Speaker 1: I was approached by the Gurkhas. We've all heard about

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Speaker 1: Remember last week we covered the trees, so let's start off. Then.

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Speaker 1: The Gurkhas feared and renowned around the world for their

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Speaker 1: Now traditionally we've had them serving with is for for

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Speaker 1: to be honest, because as well as you trying to

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Speaker 1: cut around the area and do your bits and pieces,

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Speaker 1: you've also got other people now that you want to

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Speaker 1: you want to avoid. On the same course as you

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to go near you. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna get me caught your lunatic And whereas you're just

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Speaker 1: going to go back to your helicopter and fly and

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Speaker 1: do whatever you've gotta do, I'm gonna get bin. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to go back to a normal army unit, and

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be able to carry on. So you've

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Speaker 1: gotta be very careful at this stage because you could

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Speaker 1: get suckered into something that could get you thrown off

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Speaker 1: the course, all right, And that they said these cases

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Speaker 1: are just going to go back to being fire pilots

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Speaker 1: or whatever it is they came to do. Okay, you're

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Speaker 1: going to go back to a rifle company, having failed

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Speaker 1: the course, having come through all this on selection. You

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Speaker 1: could get bin for something as stupid as getting caught

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Speaker 1: nickings and food from somewhere else. And so you've got

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Speaker 1: to try and stick to the rules and do it properly.

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Speaker 1: That said that, they say there's always a plus side

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Speaker 1: to everything that I do. Again, I enjoyed it because

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Speaker 1: I'm learning how I'll now pick myself up against you know,

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Speaker 1: we had a unit of men looking for me. I'm

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Speaker 1: putting myself against those men. It's me against them. That's

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Speaker 1: the way I saw it, very very determined to get

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Speaker 1: through his face, determined not to be beaten, and all

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Speaker 1: that stuff sort of stuff, and it really was good

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Speaker 1: to be having in the driving seat. There's nobody telling

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Speaker 1: me what to do. Now I'm out there doing my

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Speaker 1: own thing. I'm fighting against them, Okay, I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: evade capture. I'm on the run, I'm doing on with trills.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at all the stuff that I've been taught.

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Speaker 1: It's coming into life now and a very very worthwhile

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Speaker 1: part of part of course, it was really extremely enjoyable.

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Speaker 1: Once you get captured, now that's a different that's when

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Speaker 1: it starts. That's when the p turns into pain. I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you all right, that's that's a different matter. Again,

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Speaker 1: like the seller can't get too into it, but believe

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Speaker 1: me you it's it's it's a very unpleasant time you

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Speaker 1: finish his face and then it's off to do a

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Speaker 1: bit of parachute. Now, I was already power of trained

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Speaker 1: when I went on selection, so I didn't have to

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Speaker 1: do the first four or five jumps, which we're on

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Speaker 1: a state line, round square, round, round, shoot just just

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Speaker 1: a hop and pop out the side of the aircraft.

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Speaker 1: We then moved on. We did some square shoots, a

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Speaker 1: bit more advice stuff against static line, but static line

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Speaker 1: squares terrible stuff with Kit, all this sort of stuff.

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Speaker 1: Did a bit of counter terrorism for the first time,

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Speaker 1: which was again it all knew. You're you're in black kit.

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Speaker 1: It's the first time you've ever seen it. It's what

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Speaker 1: you joined for us. You know, extremely enjoyable. You can

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Speaker 1: still get bin on this stuff, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: But it's now you're almost reaching the finish line. Like

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Speaker 1: I say, you finished your counter terrorism stuff. I can't

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Speaker 1: remember how long it was. Again, you're being exposed to

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Speaker 1: more of the animal. Now you're seeing a lot more selection.

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Speaker 1: And then let I say, finally, when you've done all

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Speaker 1: that and you've got your you've got your wings, and

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Speaker 1: you've done your jumps and all that sort of stuff,

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Speaker 1: you've now got your halo wings. You're ready to be badged.

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Speaker 1: And I remember it was quite a somber affair. There

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Speaker 1: wasn't that many of us left at this stage of

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Speaker 1: the campaign. He went into the we went into the

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Speaker 1: lecture fare and the CEO came in and he chucked

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Speaker 1: each one of us a sandbarrey and that was it.

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Speaker 1: You had made it. He was in, he was in

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Speaker 1: the sas. And it's one of those things where you're

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Speaker 1: sort of like the elation is with you for about

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Speaker 1: twenty seconds, because before you know, you're down the stores,

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Speaker 1: you're getting your kit and your bottom of the pile again.

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Speaker 1: You've gone from passing selection where you could be fifteen

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Speaker 1: football to the bottom of the pile. You're now surrounded

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Speaker 1: by people that have been on ops, people who have

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Speaker 1: done this, done that, done the other. You're the bottom

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Speaker 1: of the pile again. Okay, it's not so evident. They

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Speaker 1: don't treat you like a complete numpty. But you are

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Speaker 1: the new boy. You are the tea boy. You are

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Speaker 1: the man who, if there's a shitty job, is going

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Speaker 1: to do that shifty job. Okay, so you're the bottom

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Speaker 1: of the heap. So you've just been through this this course.

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Speaker 1: You've achieved what you wanted. But in true, true sense

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Speaker 1: of everything I've taught you on this on these free

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Speaker 1: lectures about selection, if you remember the very first thing

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Speaker 1: I taught you, it was the regimental ethos. And the

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Speaker 1: first regimental ethos was an unrelented pursuit of excellence. And

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Speaker 1: this is where you see it on a mas scale

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Speaker 1: for the first time, because you've just passed selection, but

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Speaker 1: you haven't reached the top of the mountain. You're about

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Speaker 1: just in the foothills. Okay, You're now striving. You're striving

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Speaker 1: to go further and further within your career. And like

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Speaker 1: I say, that really is that is how selection works.

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Speaker 1: So now they say you get in, but you're by

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Speaker 1: no means have you made it. You're now at the

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Speaker 1: beginning of a very very long and difficult journey and

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Speaker 1: things only get harder and longer, but to be fair,

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Speaker 1: they get more enjoyable too, So you know, the upside

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Speaker 1: of it is the harder you work, the more enjoyable

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Speaker 1: it is. That's the end of my talks on selection.

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Speaker 1: I've given you free good talks on selection there so

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Speaker 1: I hope it's given you a bit of an insight

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Speaker 1: into what we do over here in the the limey

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Speaker 1: side or our side of the pond. And like they say,

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Speaker 1: any of you that have done selection elsewhere with the

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Speaker 1: Seals or Delta, you can understand where David Sterling's impact

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Speaker 1: has actually come into play with your regiments and with

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Speaker 1: what you're doing, okay, because I remember somebody saying about

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Speaker 1: special forces soldiering. Alright, special forces soldiering isn't danging on

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Speaker 1: frobes or falling out helicopters or jumping out of planes

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Speaker 1: at twenty thousand feet. Okay. Special forces soldiering is the

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Speaker 1: basics and the basics done well, and that's it, all right,

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Speaker 1: That's that's what you've got to remember. The foundation of

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Speaker 1: any soldier starts with the basics, and those basics can

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Speaker 1: be built on them. We can take them in any direction.

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Speaker 1: But if those basics aren't strong, the platform isn't strong.

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Speaker 1: And if the platform isn't strong, we can't overload it.

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Speaker 1: If we can't overload it, we cannot build an operator.

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Speaker 1: That's it. But don't forget the check out everything else

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Speaker 1: on software software dot com and create club great club,

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Speaker 1: Create club dot com. Okay, I'll have a butchers there

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Speaker 1: as well, because there's some top kit brought to you

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Speaker 1: by some top operators. So that's me for the week

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Speaker 1: until next time. Who dares wins and I'll see you

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