1 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, It's Tuesday, February eighteenth, twenty twenty five. Welcome 2 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 1: to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. We're not quite ready 3 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: for hand size season yet. To me your man MG 4 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: Marcus Grand joined by Michael F. Florio. Lakwan Jones at 5 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: this moment is still on an airplane. He is on 6 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: his way to New Orleans. He's going to be there 7 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: for an HBCU showcase, the HBCU Legacy Bowl coming up 8 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: this weekend, so he will be enjoying lots of good 9 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: food and lots of fun in New Orleans while Floria, 10 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: you and I are just grinding here doing mock drafts 11 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: and stuff. 12 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 2: Look, I'll give let's give LQ credit. He was like, 13 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: I Land, I want to run to the hotel, like 14 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: can I Like, it wouldn't work out schedule wise, but 15 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: he wanted to be here right now. 16 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: That is true. That is true. All credit to Tilakwan 17 00:00:58,040 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: because he was going to try and hustle up and 18 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: set up from the hotel and do the show. Is 19 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: just timing wise with the rest of us, it was 20 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: gonna be difficult. We expect though. He will be back 21 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: for Thursday show so we can ask him questions about 22 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: some of his mock draft stuff. Then the one headlines 23 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: we get to by the way, we are doing a show. 24 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: We did a mock draft yesterday. We're gonna talk about 25 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: the mock draft. We got some some other running back 26 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: rankings things, and then maybe some fun in fravolity at 27 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: the end, depending on how long we are babbling about 28 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: the other stuff here. But yeah, we did a mock 29 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: draft the first of what several this year, I would assume, right. 30 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I like doing them, like we were 31 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 2: talking about doing them maybe like once a month or 32 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: something like that, just to kind of keep compare. And 33 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: it's really cool because, like you, you posted this on 34 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: Blue you skeeded it. 35 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: I guess, uh yeah, I Patrick CLAYBN has convinced me 36 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: that we're just we're just calling him tweets regardless. 37 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: Okay, so you tweeted it on Blue Sky, oh right, 38 00:01:55,600 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: and it filled within like twenty minutes. So it's a 39 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: lot of people who live in breath fantasy like we do, 40 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: which which is really cool. 41 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, we actually got some really cool folks in here. 42 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: Nate poll Vote joined us. Kevin Tompkins. I think you 43 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: could read him with some of his stuff over at 44 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: at Fantasy pros. Nate Yankie from Pro Football Focus was 45 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: in with us Pete Davidson him at Rotobond. There's a 46 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: whole lot of folks who jumped in, so we are 47 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: grateful for them for feeling this thing up. And I 48 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: think we just had some civilians out there as well 49 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: who just said jumped in. 50 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: Do you think Pete gets it as much as I do? 51 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 2: Like tweets thinking he's someone else, Yeah, except that his 52 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: are probably more fun than yours, oh easily. 53 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: I mean he probably got a lot of tweets about 54 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: the SNL fiftieth anniversary or something like that. Yours. You 55 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: just get angry angry. 56 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: People whenever like a supermodel or like a singer breaks 57 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: up with their significant other. They probably slide into Pete's 58 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 2: DMS like yeah, I mean I would think so right. 59 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's probably a different, different level, for sure 60 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: than than what you get when when people make you mad, 61 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: you make whatever when the other florio tweets things, writes things, 62 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: and people get upset about it. So yeah, I want 63 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: to go through this mock draft. It was a twelve 64 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: team PPR Snake draft. I will also try to post 65 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: the actual board, so folks can check that out too, 66 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: because I know, just sort of listening to this thing 67 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: is gonna be a little bit difficult to follow. So 68 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: we'll post the board. You can take a look at that. 69 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: You can make your own determinations of who you thought 70 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: had a good draft or not a good draft. So 71 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: I mean, like your overall impressions, your feelings on the 72 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: team that you came away with. You chose the twelfth 73 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: spot in the order, so talk to me about why 74 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: you chose that and how you felt like it turned out. 75 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: I took twelve because it's a little bit easier because 76 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: you could just double pick and you're good to go. 77 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: I also like being on the turn. It makes you, 78 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: at least with me, it forces me to kind of 79 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: get my guys a little bit more. Whereas if Sam, 80 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 2: I'm in the middle of a draft, I'll be like, 81 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 2: maybe I could wait and get this guy around later. 82 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: You don't have that option when you're at twelve, so 83 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 2: it kind of forces you to go get the guys 84 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: that you like. And to me, the most interesting part 85 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: of this mock was rookies. And obviously ADP isn't fully 86 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 2: up to like par yet we with the So the 87 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 2: rookies are still a little bit pushed down on ADP, 88 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 2: but you wouldn't know that by looking at this board 89 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 2: because everyone was pulling rookies up very high. I kind 90 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 2: of went in being like, I'm gonna draft a lot 91 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 2: of rookies. I don't think I drafted a single one, 92 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 2: because I should have expected this with who we were 93 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 2: drafting for such a sharp room that they went appropriate. 94 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 2: There was no discount on any of the top rookies. 95 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: No, there was, And like I was sort of with you, 96 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna draft some rookies, and they kept going, 97 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: and they kept going. Eventually I did draft one late. 98 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: I just I chose the second spot, you know. I 99 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: wanted to see who would go first and sort of 100 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: make my decision. Accordingly, I'm just curious as to how 101 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: things are gonna shake out. And I was with you, 102 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 1: I was trying to get rookies. It never really happened. 103 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: Then finally late I just I felt left out. So 104 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: I drafted a rookie in the late rounds of this thing, 105 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: just to kind of see how, you know, how it 106 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: would feel a little bit. Did you have a particular strategy, 107 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: were you you know, I always feel like you never 108 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: really know until you kind of get into it a 109 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: round or two. But did you go into it, you know, 110 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: planning to do certain things? 111 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: I kind of felt like you, like, especially with this 112 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: being my first real mock for twenty twenty five and 113 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: it being February, and like I said, ADPs still kind 114 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 2: of skewed off of what it was last year. These 115 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 2: early drafts are always very interesting, and I kind of 116 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 2: went into like, I'm gonna find all the guys who's 117 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 2: ADP are suppressed and I'm gonna take them, and we're 118 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 2: in such a sharp room that everyone had that same thought. 119 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 2: My plan was to I wanted to leave the first 120 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: couple of rounds with running backs because at least one 121 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 2: like I know, me and like Lakwan talk about a 122 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: lot like we want wide receivers early on. But the 123 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 2: more we were talking, especially Marcus when we did our 124 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: rankings last week and we talked about running back, I 125 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: was like, there's such a like I think there's a 126 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: bigger fall off at running back after the top like 127 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,239 Speaker 2: five than at any other position outside of maybe quarterback. 128 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 2: But that's a very different position. So I left the 129 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 2: first two rounds. I made sure to grab Devan hen 130 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 2: who was my highest ranked running back, and then through 131 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 2: four rounds I ended up doubling down and taking Isaiah Pacheco, 132 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: who I loved last year as well. So after four rounds, 133 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: I had two running backs, and that was something I 134 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 2: wanted to emphasize, Like, I was confident I could find 135 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: receivers I would feel good about in the middle portions 136 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 2: of the draft, not so much with running backs, which 137 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 2: is why after I had those two guys, I took 138 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 2: one more running back until my last pick, the very 139 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 2: last pick of the draft. So wanted to emphasize it 140 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: early and then kind of because I also feel like 141 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: right now, Marcus, obviously things will change by August, but 142 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 2: out of all the positions, running backs are the one 143 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 2: that could change the most because it's so volume dependent. Yeah. 144 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: So I felt in some way, maybe a little bit 145 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: opposite of you in the sense that I didn't love 146 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: the receivers that were available when it got to even 147 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: like late round two. I mean, they're good players, but 148 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: I didn't feel comfortable taking them in that spot. So 149 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: I felt good getting you know, a big wide receiver early. 150 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: I came back and got a big running back early 151 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: we'll start talking about some of these guys individually in 152 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: a bit. But it was sort of like after a while, 153 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: like I don't love any of the receivers available. They 154 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: all come with big question marks attached to them. And 155 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: then sort of in the mid rounds I hit a 156 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: few receivers that I think could potentially either make a 157 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: leap or maybe have a bounce back year. Then later 158 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: I kind of took some, I guess, for lack of 159 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: a better screw, kind of more zero RB type guys 160 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: or guys that have upside potentially, and then you know, 161 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: the end of the draft is always sort of those 162 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: upside kind of dart throw guys that you think could 163 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: really maybe turn into something, but you're sort of, you know, 164 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: on the fence about them a little bit. So this 165 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: sort of dive into it. Justin Jefferson is the one 166 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: dot one your feelings on that I. 167 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 2: Wouldn't do it. I can get the thinking like he's 168 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson. He probably is the best real life wide 169 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 2: receiver walking the planet right now. He's been so productive 170 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 2: regardless of who the quarterback has been. Last year we 171 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: were doing this with Sam Darnold, where we were like, 172 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 2: might not live up to expectations, and he was fine. 173 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 2: He produced with Nick Mullens for a stretch the year before. 174 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 2: But when you were picking first, you were splitting hairs, 175 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: and Justin Jefferson's quarterback is a much bigger question than 176 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 2: the guy that you got it too, in Jamar Chase, 177 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 2: who is, as Joe Burrow, one of the four best 178 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the NFL, is guy since college, all of that, 179 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: so I know we've talked about it already on the 180 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 2: show before. For me, one dot oh one is Jamar Chase, 181 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 2: and you just keep it moving. But you got a gift. 182 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: You got him at two. I get the thicking with Jefferson. 183 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 2: I just would never be the one to do. 184 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: That, which made me feel great that I was able 185 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 1: to like cause I see Jefferson go off the board 186 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 1: in one and I couldn't click Jamar Chase's name fast enough, 187 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: Like I was all in on Jamar Chase at the 188 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: one dot two. That was an easy one for me. 189 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: I assumed he was going to go one. I still 190 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: believe in most drafts that he's going to go number one, 191 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: but I was glad to get the very slight discounted too. 192 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: If he went one. Would you have taken Jefferson at two? 193 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 1: Probably? Yeah, So Jefferson was coming off the board the 194 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: first two picks. I was probably gonna go Jefferson there, 195 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: but it got us number three with Bijon Robinson. Kevin 196 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: Tompkins takes Bijon Robinson at the number three overall spot. 197 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: Maybe the big headline though in the first round, and 198 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to ask him about this. On Thursday, 199 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 1: Lakwan was at the number four spot. He has been 200 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: talking up Poka Nakua all off season and he had 201 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: a chance to take Pooka and he takes aman Ross 202 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: Saint Brown. 203 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 2: Instead, which literally last week we did our rankings, both 204 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 2: me and Lakuan had Hookah as wide receiver. 205 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: Two. He takes a Monro instead, So again he is 206 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 1: en route to New Orleans. When we talked to him 207 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: on Thursday, this is going to be the first question 208 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: we ask is well, probably the second questions. I'll proably 209 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 1: ask him what's the best thing he ate? But the 210 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 1: second question was like, why did you take Amanrau over 211 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: Puka at the number four spot? He didn't text us 212 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: where he was like I want to see where he goes. 213 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: But I was sitting there at twelve, Like, yo, if 214 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 2: he got by Laqwan, there's an actual hands he makes 215 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 2: it to me. Now he went ninth overall, But yeah, 216 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 2: I think that's a great value for Puca right there. 217 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, absolutely, So I'm on Rago's four. Sa Quon 218 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: Barkley goes five, Ceed Lamb at six, Jamiir Gibbs is seven. 219 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: AJ Brown at eight. Now, AJ Brown is one that 220 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not sure about. I mean, it's not 221 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: a talent issue, it's just that last year the passing 222 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: volume was diminished significantly in Philadelphia, and it feels like 223 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: that is a risk at eight for me. 224 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 2: I am in AJ Brown Stan. I love him, and 225 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 2: I'm I don't know if I was the highest of 226 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 2: the three of us when we ranked him, but even so, 227 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 2: I had the three wide receivers that went after him 228 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 2: ahead of AJ Brown, So I like him a lot 229 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: more like if he was there for me at twelve 230 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 2: rather than the guy I took, which was Nico Collins. 231 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: I probably like if you flip those two, I probably 232 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 2: still take Aj at twelve, but I I like him 233 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 2: a lot more as like a late first early second 234 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,119 Speaker 2: round pick than I do middle of the first. 235 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: So there he goes. He goes at one dot eight. 236 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: You mentioned Puka is at nine, Malik Neighbors goes number 237 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: ten overall, bres Hall at eleven, and then you finished 238 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: out round one with Nico Collins. For running backs in 239 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: the first round, is that a surprise to you a bit? 240 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 2: Not the first three, because I think Bijon, Saquon and 241 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 2: Gibbs are going to firmly be like first even like 242 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 2: probably middle first round picks. Earlier, I was not only 243 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 2: to see a fourth one go, but who the fourth 244 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 2: one was in Breze Hall. Like I I think Brits 245 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 2: Hall is more of a second round pick in drafts 246 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 2: next year than a first. 247 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: Breese Hall is one that's curious to me because I 248 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: think he's a borderline first round guy. Again, it's based 249 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: on ability, and it's based on a belief that whatever 250 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: happens with the Jets, whoever their quarterback is going to be, however, 251 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: this offense is going to be set up that they 252 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: are going to feature one of the more talented backs 253 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: in the league. And I that is sort of my 254 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: argument for him in the first round. My argument for 255 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: him out of the first round is it's the Jets. 256 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: It's chaos. You just don't really know what's going to 257 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: happen because there's so many unanswered questions in this offense. Again, 258 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: I get it, it's mid February, but there's just so 259 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 1: many unanswered questions that it's hard to plant the flag. 260 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: Like you want your first round pick to be a 261 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: guy that you know with certainty is going to produce, 262 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 1: and there's just a lot of questions around around Breeze 263 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: Hall at this point into the second a little bit 264 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: more running back heavy. We had six running backs off 265 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: the board. You started it with von Hian. You mentioned 266 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: he was your He's not your highest ranked overall, right, 267 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: he was just the highest ranked running back still available. 268 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 2: You have him as my so the big the top three, 269 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: and then I have Hn after that. Okay, so you 270 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 2: take to start the round. We did get our first 271 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 2: rookie in the second round, Ashton Genty. Nate Yankee takes 272 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 2: him from at the two dot eight spot, so we 273 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 2: actually started Nate starts with Saquon Barkley and Ashton Johnty, 274 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 2: which again in February, I'm not gonna lie to you, 275 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 2: that looks pretty awesome. Yeah, and I feel like this 276 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 2: is probably like the lowest portion of that. Like, I 277 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: don't see Jens falling much further than this unless he 278 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: goes to like an awful landing spot. But I think 279 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 2: there's only room for growth. Because we were talking about 280 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 2: it last week, Like, if he goes to a team 281 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 2: where they just hand him the keys in year one 282 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 2: and let him run wild, he is going to be, 283 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: in my opinion, a late first or early second round pick. 284 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 2: US fantasy guys love rookies, so not only is this 285 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 2: a pick that makes you look smart now, a month 286 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 2: from now, we might be like, wow, that was a 287 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 2: great value. 288 00:14:58,240 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean that's the thing, right, Depending on what 289 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: he goes, it's not inconceivable that he slides into the 290 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: first round. I mean I've seen mock drafts with John 291 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: c getting drafted fairly early in the in the first round. 292 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen mox with the Raiders taking him 293 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: at six. You know, I don't know if that really happens, 294 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: but that's where we are sort of in mock draft season, 295 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: like real NFL draft mock season at this point. There 296 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: was a run on wide receivers early in the second round. 297 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: Bryan Thomas Junior, followed by Drake London, followed by Marvin 298 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: Harrison that I was just saying, hey, how are we 299 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: feeling about Marvin Harris because year one was a major disappointment. 300 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I it was a It was a disappointment because 301 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 2: of the expectations that we put on him and if 302 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: he this is where he's going to go in drafts, 303 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 2: we're not lowering those expectations at all. I don't like 304 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 2: him going there. Like I would have took Tyreek over him. 305 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: I would have took Eric Wilson over him. This might 306 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: sound crazy we're getting into round three here, but like 307 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 2: I would take Lad McConkey over him JSN. So at 308 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 2: least as of now, things could change again, we're still 309 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 2: in early February or mid February. But as of right now, 310 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 2: that to me is my least favorite pick in the 311 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 2: second round. I was gonna say though, last week Lakwan 312 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 2: was like, I'm the low guy on Kyrien Williams. He 313 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 2: took him in the second round, he passed. 314 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: So he passed on Puka, he takes Kyron. I'm I 315 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: don't know if he was hacked or what was going 316 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: on with Lakwan. 317 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 2: The Cooper Cup. Later on, like dude, there's a lot 318 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 2: of rams going on with this, uh, this draft of his. 319 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: There's a whole Yeah, there's a whole lot happening with 320 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: Lawan's team. Yeah. I am sad he's not here because 321 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: he has some things he has to answer for. Uh 322 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: for sure, I'm Christian McCaffrey at two six. I don't 323 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: hate it. I just I think I'm hesitant to draft 324 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: McCaffrey at all this year. 325 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 2: I get it, if you're gonna take him, I think 326 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 2: the second round is where you have to. And ye, 327 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 2: there's obviously like he could be the RB one again, 328 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 2: Like there's an obvious upside there. But I also feel 329 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 2: like he's riskier now than because in past years when 330 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 2: he missed time, I was always like, it's fine, like 331 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 2: draft him, Like especially that one year where he it 332 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 2: was like a shoulder injury and a hamstring injury. I'm like, 333 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 2: those two things aren't connected at all. It was just 334 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 2: bad luck. But he's older now, there's more wear and 335 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 2: tear on the tires and the Achilles thing that that 336 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 2: I hear Achilles, and I immediately am like I don't 337 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 2: want to touch that at all. And and you as 338 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 2: a forty nine Ers fan know how how big of 339 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 2: a story it was and how hard it was to 340 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 2: trust him last year. So if you're out on him, 341 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 2: that only makes me want to be even more so 342 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 2: out on him. 343 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: Well, it's well, it was hard to trust McCaffrey. It's 344 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: even harder to trust the forty nine er organization when 345 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: it comes to information about you know, their injury. And 346 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 1: I get it, like it's not advantageous to just blab 347 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 1: to the world like what a guy's situation is. But 348 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: the fact that the organization kind of kept stringing this 349 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: along during the season only to basically, you know, we 350 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: didn't get much right. It was forever before he got 351 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: on the field, and it didn't last very long before 352 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,479 Speaker 1: he aggravated the injury, and we just didn't see him 353 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,479 Speaker 1: again for the rest of the year. So I, you know, 354 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: I just have a little bit of nervousness. You know, 355 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: maybe if he falls a little farther, we can talk 356 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: about it. First sight end off the board, brock Bouers 357 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: at the two ten spots, You feel okay with that? 358 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I, And I didn't even have to what I 359 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 2: saw the next tight end go off the board. I 360 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 2: didn't even need to look at who it was that 361 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 2: selected him. 362 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 1: That's right, because Buyers goes two ten. I come around 363 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: the second pick of the third round and I took 364 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: Trey McBride. Yeah, I just I don't want to be 365 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: the person streaming tight end. I can't. You know, I've 366 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: planted my flag that McBride's going to finish the year 367 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 1: as the tight end one. So this was sort of 368 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: me reaffirming that belief by making him the same and tied 369 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: in off the board, taking him with the second pick 370 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: in the third round. First quarterback off the board happens 371 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: in the third round. You know, I know you're okay 372 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: with Josh Allen being the first quarterback off the board? 373 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: Are you okay with him at three seven? 374 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 2: I'm okay with him there, But I'm never going to 375 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,959 Speaker 2: be the person doing it because likely you know, I 376 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 2: love Alan, that's my guy. But like, what's the difference 377 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 2: between him and al and Lamar? Like a lot of 378 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 2: people are gonna have Lamars QB one coming into next year, 379 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 2: and Lamar went what was it? 380 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: Nine spots later? 381 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 2: Nine spots later, and then you get Jaden Daniels over 382 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 2: a round later. You, I thought, came away with the 383 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 2: best quarterback value, Marcus, because you got Jalen Hurts in 384 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 2: the fifth round, and I keep saying I think there's 385 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 2: like a clear cut top five, but I want the 386 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 2: fifth one. And it does appear that Hurts is going 387 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 2: to be the fifth one off the board. And you 388 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 2: get him over two rounds after Josh Allen and over 389 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 2: a round later or close to a round later than 390 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 2: like Lamar and those other guys. I think that's just 391 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 2: a great value. Yeah. 392 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: I felt good about it again because it was it 393 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: was right at the cutoff where look, if I didn't 394 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: get Hurts, then I was definitely gonna wait on a quarterback. 395 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: But the fact that he was still there second pick 396 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: of the fifth round, I said, Okay, I can pull 397 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: the trigger on this, and I can feel okay, and 398 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: I can continue sort of roster buildings. So by the 399 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: fifth round I've got I got two wide receivers and 400 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase in the first. I took Brandon Ayuk in 401 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: the fourth at the end of the fourth round just 402 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 1: because I feel like he's going to rebound, and especially 403 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: if the Niners, if they do trade Deebo Samuel, I healthy, 404 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: Brandon Ayuk still gets plenty of targets there in that offense. 405 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: So I got my two receivers. I took Josh Jacobs 406 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 1: in the second, I took Trade McBride in the third, 407 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 1: and I got Jalen Hurts in the fifth. So I 408 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 1: feel really good about those first five picks. 409 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 2: I almost took Brandon Ayuk in my fourth round pick, 410 00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 2: and then you got him at the end of the fourth, 411 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 2: So full rounds between us. 412 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: And that's where. But it's right about that spot where 413 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 1: I felt a little bit yeah about the receivers that 414 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: were out there, Like I took Ayuk at four to 415 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: eleven to pick right before him was Xavier Worthy earlier 416 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: in that round, DK metcalf went. But some of the 417 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: receivers that went right after Iu, Chris olave Goo's early 418 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: fifth Jamison Williams early fifth, rookie Teed McMillan out of 419 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: the University of Arizona was early in the fifth round. 420 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: Jalen waddles, A, Flowers, Rashi Rice good players, just I 421 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: didn't feel comfortable with them in that spot. 422 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 2: I felt the same and I'm the one that took 423 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 2: Rashi Rice. And the reason I did well because all 424 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 2: those other names you said were gone by it came 425 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,479 Speaker 2: to me, but I also felt like you, like, I 426 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 2: don't love any of these guys, so I'm gonna go 427 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 2: for the one that I think has the most upside, 428 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 2: and that to me was Rashi Rice. But at that point, 429 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 2: but I also agree with you one hundred percent with 430 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 2: what you like. I Duke is going to be or 431 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 2: should be the number one wide receiver, top target in 432 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 2: this forty nine ers offense this year, and we already 433 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 2: saw it like last year, was going two rounds earlier 434 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 2: than this, so you're getting a discount already and he 435 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 2: could be even better. 436 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, And on top of it, with IUK, the injury 437 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: happened relatively early in the season. He played seven games, 438 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: so it's kind of in the earlier part of the season, 439 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: so it's given him a little longer runway to get healthy, 440 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: to rehab a little bit, and hopefully now that he's 441 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: got a contract, we see him at training camp, we 442 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: see him actually working out with the team, so he's 443 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: ready to go for week once. That gives me a 444 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: little bit more more confidence about it, got plenty more 445 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: to dive into. That is just a quick overview of 446 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: the first five rounds or so, we're gonna get into 447 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: some more favorite picks, maybe questionable picks, just some of 448 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: the early overall takeaways from what we took out of 449 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: this first mock draft. Stick around for more of the 450 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Football Show, diving into our first mock of 451 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: the off season. Florio mentioned at the top of the show, 452 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: we are hoping to do maybe one of these a month. 453 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: They're bouts and great putting it out there on social media. 454 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: Having a lot of different folks jump in definitely better 455 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: than having it be an auto draft only with the 456 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 1: three of us, because then that just throws things off. 457 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: But kind of diving in back to the sixth round here, 458 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: at this point, it just sort of seemed like, I 459 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: don't know if there was a real flow to the 460 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: draft from this point on. And I get the sense 461 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: like that has a lot to do with because it's 462 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: so early and ADPs haven't settled and we haven't gone 463 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 1: through free agency yet, that people haven't really figured out 464 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 1: where a lot of guys should be slotted right now. 465 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a lot of people spend like and 466 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 2: it's what we have kind of been focusing on, is 467 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 2: like the early portion of the draft because the high 468 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 2: end guys we kind of know. Some of them still 469 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 2: could change via free agency or quarter back or whatever. 470 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 2: But for the most part, these are guys that are 471 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 2: kind of they're so good that they're locked into their 472 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 2: team and their role. But when you get into the 473 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 2: middle and later portions of the draft, yeah, a lot 474 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 2: of that comes down to like volume, opportunity, stuff like that, 475 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 2: and we don't we don't have any of those answers yet. 476 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 2: You also did see older players fall, probably like I 477 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 2: was shocked DeVante. I'm not taking Davante Adams most likely, 478 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 2: but middle of the seventh round, Like to me, that 479 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 2: felt like a like, Okay, he's probably fell further than 480 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 2: he should have. 481 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: Probably, But I think everybody sort of had the same feeling, 482 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 1: right because I looked at DeVante adams name and it's 483 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: sat at the top of the list for a long time, 484 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: and I was like, I can't do it. You know, 485 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: I don't know where he's going to be. I don't 486 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: know what his situation is. Yeah, he's still one of 487 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: the better receivers in the NFL, but he is getting older, 488 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: you know. I think it's just there were so many 489 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: question marks, and I think a lot of people just 490 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: sort of passed to the point whereas you mentioned, then 491 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: suddenly you're in the middle of the seventh round and 492 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: it's like what are we doing here? And and then 493 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: he ends up getting drafted. So yeah, I just it 494 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: just felt like there was a weird flow to this draft. 495 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: I don't know about you. I got to the eighth round. 496 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: I took Stefan Diggs. At the end of the eighth round, 497 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: I just looked at the list and I'm like, I 498 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: don't I don't love any of the options out there anymore. 499 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 1: Like it just seemed to all fall apart by like 500 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: late seventh early eighth round. 501 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 2: For me, I think you did a good job there. 502 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 2: Of like, Diggs is a safer option. He doesn't bring 503 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 2: like the top five upside that it used to bring, 504 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 2: but he's still very very safe. But then you paired 505 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 2: him with Hollywood Brown, who brings absolutely no floor but 506 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 2: a lot of upside as the potential big play threat 507 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 2: for the Chiefs. So that's something when I'm in the 508 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 2: later rounds of drafts that I will do. Sometimes I'll 509 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 2: be like, all right, I'm gonna get this guy who 510 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 2: if I'm in a pinch or whatever, or or if 511 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 2: I still am filling out my roster. I don't mind 512 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 2: like my starting lineup. I don't mind starting this guy, 513 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 2: but I'm gonna pair him with someone that if he hits, 514 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 2: I'm pulling Digs out of my lineup for this guy 515 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 2: because the upside is so high. So that's the strategy 516 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 2: that I love to do, especially that portion of the draft. 517 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and that's sort of what I went. Three 518 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: wide receivers in a row seven, eight nine. It's like 519 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: Romo Dunes in the seventh, Stefan Diggs in the eighth, 520 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: and in Hollywood Brown in the ninth. So at that 521 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: point I felt like I was pretty good at wide receiver. 522 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: I gotta get back to your draft, though, because like 523 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: six seven eighties took TJ. Hockinson, which I know you 524 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 1: said you were kind of gotta weight on a tight end. 525 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: Is this about where you plan to make the move 526 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: when you can. 527 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 2: So I think what I'm kind of figuring out is 528 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 2: I'm probably like five six if I could get one 529 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 2: of like Kittle Andrews Hockinson, I think I'll pull I'll 530 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 2: pull that on, like pull the trigger on that. But 531 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,479 Speaker 2: if I miss out on those guys, then I'm just 532 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 2: I'm saying, whatever, and I'll be one of these teams 533 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 2: that took their tight end and like the tenth round er. 534 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 2: So but I don't know. I felt like at six, 535 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 2: just like you were saying, like, I didn't love I 536 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 2: already had three wide receivers at that point. I didn't 537 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 2: love any of the others like George Pickens I was considering. 538 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 2: I definitely did not like any of the running backs 539 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 2: that were there, not enough to take as my third. 540 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 2: So I was like, and quarterback, my plan was to wait. 541 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 2: So I was like, all right, I'll take the tight 542 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 2: end here that me I don't mean and you were 543 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 2: in on TJ. Hockinson, Lakwan is not. But I feel 544 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 2: like a healthy TJ. Hockinson could get me nine hundred 545 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 2: yards and like six seven touchdowns and be a top 546 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 2: five tight end. 547 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I'm with you on that. I think. You know, 548 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: last year, obviously he was coming back from a major injury. 549 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: We didn't see him until late in the season. It 550 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: took him a while to sort of get up to speed. 551 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: But I'm with you, I think a healthy TJ. Hawkinson 552 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,959 Speaker 1: is still a very productive player. 553 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 2: Do you think I made a mistake taking him over 554 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 2: Andrews cause I went. Once I saw Mark Andrews go 555 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 2: right after me, I was like, did I did I 556 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 2: go wrong? 557 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: I don't think so, I don't, and I like Mark Andrews. 558 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: But you do start to wonder if if the decline 559 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: is happening a little bit. That was my concern, you 560 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: know that, just whether or not he's starting to decline 561 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: a little, partially just because of him, partially because it 562 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: seems like the Ravens want to incorporate wide receivers more. 563 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: You know what we saw out of Zay Flowers. You know, 564 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know what Rashad Bateman is going 565 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: to be at this point, but it does seem like 566 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: they want to start incorporating other pass catchers. You know, 567 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: Isaiah likely had a huge game in Week one. He 568 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: might be the best tight end two in football, like 569 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: I think most teams likely as a starter. Probably it 570 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: probably is for sure. So no, I don't. I don't 571 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: think you you went wrong by by taking Hawkinson over 572 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: Andrews at all. 573 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 2: Thank you, because I I that was the one pick 574 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 2: that when I made it, I was like, you ever 575 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 2: had that? I'm sure you have happened on time. But 576 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 2: like when you make a pick and then you immediately 577 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 2: start second guessing, like, ah, did I leave the better 578 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 2: player on the board, Like. 579 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: Usually it's the it's the oh crap, I forgot that 580 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: dude was there? Ye what am I doing this sort 581 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: of thing? So no, I understand it, But I think 582 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: you were fine at that one. Just sort of scanning 583 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: the rest of this year. Any thought, like, so you 584 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: get Kyler Murray over Jordan Love. The thoughts on that 585 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield comes off the board fairly late in the 586 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: ninth round, I mean, after Love, after Nicks. That surprised me. 587 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: I think a little bit. 588 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 2: I'm cool with Murray going ahead of Love because he 589 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 2: can run. But I I and look, I was the 590 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes guy when we did our rankings last week. 591 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 2: I was the only one that had him in the 592 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 2: top six. But I think after the top five quarterbacks 593 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 2: there should be a multiple round gap between that cause, 594 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 2: like to me, the top five guys are the clear 595 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 2: cut five best fantasy quarterbacks in the game. So like 596 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 2: to me, taking Mahomes four picks after you took Jalen 597 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 2: Hurts felt like throwing all the value away, right, being 598 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 2: like I don't want to miss out on a quarterback, 599 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 2: I'm chasing it and even getting like Kyler Murray in 600 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 2: the sixth round, Like, I don't think that's a big 601 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 2: enough gap for me to want to take a quarterback. There. 602 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 2: There were a lot of quarterbacks that went like bo 603 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 2: Knicks winning round eight, Baker, and nine. I didn't take 604 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 2: my quarterbacks till round eleven and twelve, and I took 605 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 2: Kleb and Drake May, but like Herbert and Goff went 606 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 2: later than that. Purdy dak So to me, I understand 607 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 2: firmly taking a top five quarterback, but if you miss 608 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 2: out on those top five, I think you should immediately 609 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 2: pivot to Like, all right, I'm gonna wait a few 610 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 2: rounds now, because as much as I love like Mahomes 611 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 2: is my QB six, if I'm not getting any discount 612 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 2: and I'm paying a similar price to the top five, now, 613 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 2: I need him to be as good as those guys, 614 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 2: and I don't feel comfortable that he will be. So yeah, 615 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 2: that Mahomes is probably my least favorite pick in this draft, 616 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 2: but all of the quarterbacks that win right after the 617 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 2: top five, I feel like I'd rather just wait a 618 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 2: couple rounds to get someone that's pretty similar. 619 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: So Kyler goes with the last pick in the sixth round. 620 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: We go over a round until the next quarterback, which 621 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: is Jordan Love at eight dot two. Bo Nicks later 622 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: that round at eight dot nine Baker Mayfield at nine 623 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: to three. Then after Baker we go again. We go 624 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: almost a full round. 625 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 3: C J. 626 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: Stroud goes at at in the tenth round. I mean, 627 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: I guess I don't hate it because the person who 628 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,479 Speaker 1: took Stroud also took Josh Allen, So I guess this 629 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: is where we are where CJ. Stroud is a QB two. 630 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 2: Now huh, he's a QB two. But if I have 631 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 2: Josh Allen, like at that point where CJ. Stroud was, 632 00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 2: there was still so many good quarterbacks that I would 633 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 2: have just waited. But I do think it's something that 634 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 2: we spoke about last week. But like quarterback, I don't 635 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 2: want to say it's deeper than ever because we say 636 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 2: that every year. But there's a lot of good options 637 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 2: that I feel good about that you don't need to 638 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 2: take as like a top twelve. Like I understand, not 639 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 2: everyone is gonna want to go with Caleb and Drake 640 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 2: may as their guys because there's a lot of projection 641 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 2: there and a lot of hope that they take the 642 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 2: next step. But I also would argue there's a lot 643 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 2: of upside there with both of them. So I could 644 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 2: have paired one of those two upside guys with a 645 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 2: Dak or a Golf or a Herbert or a Purdy, 646 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 2: someone safe. And with this draft really affirmed to me, 647 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 2: Marcus is if I don't get a top five quarterback, 648 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 2: I'm waiting, and I'm just taking two of these guys 649 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 2: that I believe are all in this huge tier of 650 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 2: second quarterbacks which is ten plus deep. That to me, 651 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 2: they're all like I know, Lakwan loves bon Nicks, I 652 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 2: don't think there's a huge difference between bo Nicks and 653 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 2: Drake May and I got a four round discount on them. 654 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 2: Like there's a lot of quarterbacks like that, where like 655 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 2: I'd rather have Caleb over Stroud straight up got him 656 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 2: around and a half later. I think there's not a 657 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 2: huge difference between someone like Jordan Love and Brock Purdy, 658 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 2: but you got a four round discount on them. So 659 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 2: it just kind of made me realize that waiting is 660 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 2: probably the way I'm going with quarterback this year. 661 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: So I would say this because I saw your Caleb 662 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: Drake May and back to back rounds. In fact, with 663 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: back to back picks Caleb to in the eleventh round 664 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: Drake May to start the twelf. That feels like a 665 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: February Yes, like it feels like a thing that you 666 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,719 Speaker 1: do in February to say like, hey, this is like, 667 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: this is what I like. These are guys. I like that. 668 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: Maybe you get to August and you're starting to draft 669 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: a little bit for real, You're. 670 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, maybe not, I'll pair one with like a 671 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 2: safer guy. I also think both of those two guys, though, 672 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 2: are going their ADPs are going to go up in 673 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 2: my vimion, like I think the Patriots bringing receivers or whatever, 674 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 2: and I think everyone just realizes, like Caleb is still 675 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 2: good and he's Ben Johnson now, and like, yeah, that's 676 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 2: all we really need. 677 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, right after you took Drake May Scheud where Sanders 678 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 1: goes off the board, you mentioned at the top a 679 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 1: lot of rookies and I'm looking pff night who he 680 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: took one, two, three, four in the chart five six rookies. 681 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: He drafted six rookies in this one started with John 682 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: c in the second he took Omarion Hampton in the sixth, 683 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,240 Speaker 1: a Meccabuka, a wide receiver from Ohio State in the eighth. 684 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:53,280 Speaker 1: Let's see who he took. Uh, Let's see Caleb Johnson 685 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,720 Speaker 1: that was in the ninth round. I took Matt Matthew 686 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: Golden wide receiver from Texas in the eleventh. And then 687 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: with Cam Loveland is it Colston Loveland, I should say, 688 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: tied in from Michigan that was in the twelfth round. 689 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: So he was all and he pushed all the chips 690 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 1: in the rookies. 691 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 2: I will fully admit come next month, I will probably 692 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 2: be more aggressive with the rookies because I'm still in 693 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,280 Speaker 2: the early process of getting ready for the NFL Draft. 694 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 2: I know some guys that I like, but I'm not 695 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 2: at the point where I'm like flag planting for them 696 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 2: or anything yet. If we run this back in a month, 697 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:36,399 Speaker 2: I probably will feel a little bit different. But I 698 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 2: understand his thinking because rookies are the ultimate lottery ticket. Like, yeah, 699 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 2: every year, at the end of the year, I go 700 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 2: look through like the top scorers and figure out who 701 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 2: stands out, and like it's almost always rookies that are 702 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 2: the ones that are Like I did not expect this 703 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 2: person to be here. 704 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, and I get it right. It's and 705 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: again this is this is February too. Like you can 706 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: sort of take these big swings and you can make 707 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 1: these declarations. I do think some of these guys as 708 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: more people start to kind of study them as we 709 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,720 Speaker 1: go through the combine, because you know, the combine always 710 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: gives guys a bump in certain places. I think we 711 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 1: will start to see some of these ADPs for some 712 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: of these rookies go up. I took cam Ward in 713 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: the thirteenth. I just didn't want to be left out. 714 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 1: I wanted to have a rookie, you know, So I 715 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: pair him with Jalen Hurts. I do. I'm curious. I 716 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:23,240 Speaker 1: think it'll be interesting. 717 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 2: Do you do you have a preference yet between Sanders 718 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:26,800 Speaker 2: and Ward. 719 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: I think I prefer cam Ward over Sar Sanders. You know, 720 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: I watched Sudur at Colorado. I watched it more last 721 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 1: year than this year. I did catch a couple of 722 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: games this year. I don't think his ceiling. 723 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 3: Is quite as high as Wards is, so just like you, 724 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,240 Speaker 3: I think he I think he has the safer floor, 725 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 3: like I think you can you kind of know what 726 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 3: you're getting out of him. 727 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,879 Speaker 2: He's pro ready. But Ward's tools to me are are 728 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 2: so elite one that I think, like you said, the 729 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,360 Speaker 2: upside is higher. But I also think for fantasy, he 730 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 2: is going He's gonna run a little bit more. He's 731 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 2: got a stronger arm, some more big play capability. When 732 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:10,280 Speaker 2: I watched Sanders, I was like, he runs, he can run, 733 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 2: but he doesn't. It's a lot like Kalob. I feel 734 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 2: like like he doesn't want to run. If anything, he 735 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 2: wants to use his legs to create for his arm. 736 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was certainly that first year at Colorado. 737 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 1: That was one of my frustrations watching Shoulders that I 738 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: felt like he probably should have run more, especially because 739 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 1: that first year the offensive line was so bad that 740 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 1: he was consistently under pressure that I felt like, hey man, 741 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:33,879 Speaker 1: every now and then, you just got to take off, 742 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,919 Speaker 1: you know, do something so at least freeze the linebackers. 743 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,359 Speaker 1: If they know that you can take off, then they 744 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 1: got to really think about it a whole lot. But 745 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 1: that was never the case that I felt he held 746 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: the ball too long. I think it improved a little 747 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,320 Speaker 1: bit last year, but I think I think that's an 748 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: element of his game that I would like to see 749 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: get used a little more. 750 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 2: I think people are gonna see him and be like, 751 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 2: he could be like Jaden Daniels. But I don't think 752 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 2: he's ever gonna run like that. 753 00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 1: No, I don't. I just don't think that's his game. 754 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 1: It's just yeah, that's just not who he is as 755 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 1: a as a quarterback. So I you know, I think 756 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: if that's what you're hoping for, I think you're going 757 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 1: to be very disappointed. All right, So you asked me 758 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: about about taking Hawkinson, I got to ask you about 759 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: a thing I did in the kind of later rounds. 760 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 1: I went three three rounds of a round. I went 761 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 1: Blake Kormanton Rico Dowdell at eleven, Kamani Vidal at twelve. 762 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,879 Speaker 1: I already had Josh Jacobs and Aaron Jones. These sort 763 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,959 Speaker 1: of felt like, hey man, these guys potentially could pop off. 764 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: I don't know about Dwell so much, but I do 765 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: think Korum maybe gets a bigger role. I think Vadal 766 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: potentially gets a bigger role. Understanding that there may be 767 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 1: guys ahead of them, but I just sort of, you know, 768 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: they're not quite the lottery ticket of a rookie, but 769 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: you know there may be a scratcher or something. 770 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 2: No. I think you crushed it with this portion of 771 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,320 Speaker 2: the draft because uh Korum, like you said, could one, 772 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 2: he's one injury away from becoming in like an RB one, 773 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 2: because if Kiren goes down, all of that workload is 774 00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 2: going to play koram Videll. We saw the flashes at 775 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 2: times last year, but Gus Edwards is dust at this point, 776 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 2: I think. And as much as JK. Dobbins was awesome, 777 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 2: there's a long injury history there. Even last year he 778 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 2: missed time with injuries. So if they don't bring anyone in, 779 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 2: he's an injury away from being a weekly RB two, 780 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 2: I would say. And then Rico free agent, depends where 781 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 2: he goes. But I mean, you got a running back 782 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 2: who just put up a thousand yards in round eleven 783 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 2: like that. That's never a bad pick. 784 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I sort of I sort of enjoyed, 785 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: you know that little run I had of three straight 786 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 1: running backs. It was like I said, it's not quite 787 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 1: zero RB, but sort of zero RB. 788 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 2: I didn't one of my picks that I didn't understand 789 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 2: at all. Why did de Hunter Swift make it to 790 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 2: the last pick in the ninth round. 791 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: I don't know other than other than I you know, 792 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 1: I've seen some things that he could end up being 793 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 1: kind of a cap casualty. I guess, Okay, I don't 794 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: know if I don't even know if that's the case. 795 00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: I'm I might just be making that up. I'm not 796 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: even sure. So I'm trying to I try to figure 797 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 1: out why it is that that you got him at 798 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: nine to twelve. I don't know. 799 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 2: At no point in this draft was I'm like, I 800 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 2: need DeAndre Swift. But I'm sitting there in the ninth round, 801 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,399 Speaker 2: I have two running backs, and I'm like, he's All 802 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 2: the other guys on the board here are backup, like 803 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:20,760 Speaker 2: they're like, yeah, legitimately, like zach Sharbonint went ahead of him, 804 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 2: a bunch of rookies win ahead of him, but like 805 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 2: I got him. And then in the next round, like 806 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 2: that's when like Korum and and Spears and Javonte were going. 807 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,720 Speaker 2: So I was like, I I'm not a huge DeAndre 808 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 2: Swift fan, but this just feels like good value. And 809 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 2: this won't be the case come August if he's the 810 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 2: bear starting running back. 811 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,439 Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of good values, You're getting Ricky 812 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,240 Speaker 1: Piersall in the tenth feels really nice. 813 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 2: I won't lie. I wanted to take Travis Hunter there, 814 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 2: but I was like, Pierceall feels like just because he 815 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 2: could be the leadst this. 816 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,840 Speaker 1: Top slot guy this year. Yeah again, I mean with 817 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 1: you know, Debo asking for a trade and the Niners 818 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: looking as though they were going to accommodate that request. 819 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 1: The thought process when Piersall was drafted is that he 820 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: was going to be the eventual replacement for either Brandon 821 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,439 Speaker 1: Ayuk or Deebo Samuel, whichever one of them didn't get 822 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 1: signed to a contract. They obviously bring Ayuk back. Now 823 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: it looks like Debo's going to be heading out. It 824 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 1: really does feel like it's opened the door for Ricky Piersol. Now, 825 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: mind you, Piersall had that huge game late in the season. 826 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 1: The Niners lost to the Lions, but Piersall eight catches 827 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 1: for one hundred and forty one yards at a touchdown. 828 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: He had another really good game kind of in mid 829 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,760 Speaker 1: November where he had four for seventy three in a touchdown. 830 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 1: So you know, we have seen Ricky Pearsall go out 831 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: and be productive. And now with the opportunity to have 832 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 1: more snaps, more. 833 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 2: Targets, not be coming off of a gunshot injury. 834 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,760 Speaker 1: That part too, it does feel like that's an ADP 835 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: that's to go up. I think people are going to 836 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 1: start to catch on and like, oh yeah, I thought. 837 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 2: Him, and I will admit like I loved getting Jalen 838 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 2: McMillan in round eight, but that felt like a the 839 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 2: ADP was very suppressed. This won't be the case in 840 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 2: the summer. 841 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,919 Speaker 1: You know. It's also some of that too, like as 842 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 1: you as we're doing mocks on different platforms and the 843 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 1: draft list is what it is, because that has a 844 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 1: lot to do with ADPs. I think early on, because 845 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you do try to scroll, sometimes you 846 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: miss names, or the way things are set up, you 847 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 1: know some guys are higher on the list and so 848 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 1: you just end up drafting them. I think as ADPs 849 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 1: start to come into form, and as different platforms sort 850 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,320 Speaker 1: of change their rankings, lists and their draft list, I 851 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,439 Speaker 1: think you'll start to see some of these change. But man, 852 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 1: Piercell on the tenth it feels great, Like I. 853 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 2: Scrolled pretty far on Running Back and I did not 854 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 2: see Bucky Irving's name, and he ended up going in 855 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 2: the fourth round. I don't think he goes in the 856 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 2: fourth round at all, Like I didn't. He's a second 857 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,959 Speaker 2: maybe probably third round pick in my opinion next year. 858 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 2: But that felt like one to me that was like, Oh, 859 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 2: if his name was higher on the list, he probably doesn't. 860 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 1: Fall that far. Yeah. Some other picks that that caught 861 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 1: in my eye. Tight end was interesting. Tyler Warren, who 862 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 1: I think is going to be a stud tight end 863 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 1: out of Penn State. He goes. He goes in the 864 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 1: eighth round, one pick ahead of Travis Kelsey. Kelsey's going 865 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 1: to be an interesting case because I guess, first we 866 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 1: need to know if he's actually playing football next year. 867 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,359 Speaker 2: I said they gave him some March fourteenth, and people 868 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 2: who are like, oh, he's waiting to see if m 869 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 2: will be the show is worth retiring for or not. 870 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: So Yeah, Kelsey goes at the eight that six. He's 871 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: going to be one that I think is very much 872 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 1: in flux depending on what his future plans are going 873 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 1: to be. I don't know any other any other ones 874 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,839 Speaker 1: maybe like the later rounds that jumped out to you good, 875 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:53,800 Speaker 1: bad or otherwise. 876 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 2: Well, one I knew in the tenth round like once 877 00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 2: tight end started going, I was like, I don't even 878 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 2: need to look at who's taking Johnny Smith. I know 879 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 2: that's Lakwan. I thought, to me, was interesting to see 880 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,720 Speaker 2: a couple of big like Amari Cooper in the eleventh round. 881 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 2: I know he's a free agent, but still, this is 882 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,840 Speaker 2: a guy who's been a top four round pick for 883 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,800 Speaker 2: years now, and then like Tank Dell. I understand injuries, 884 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,840 Speaker 2: but him going in round twelve kind of Marvin Mims 885 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 2: in the thirteenth, like no one pulls him up after 886 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 2: the end of year that he had. So yeah, to me, 887 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 2: it was more that some of these veterans, and I 888 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 2: felt like there was there was value on Year two players, 889 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 2: Like you got Ben Snatt, who everyone loved at this 890 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 2: time last year, you got him in the fifteenth round. 891 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:43,560 Speaker 2: Because we're fantasy analysts. Fantasy people were like goldfish, Like 892 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 2: you put a new shiny toy in front of us, 893 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,839 Speaker 2: and we're like, forget about all these guys we loved 894 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,800 Speaker 2: last year. So I always think that Year two players 895 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,319 Speaker 2: who didn't quite live up to expectation in year one 896 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 2: could be could be a value. And this kind of 897 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 2: showed that. 898 00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I liked Sinnet. I did not think 899 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 1: last year was going to be his year. Zach Ertz 900 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 1: was still there, and granted Ertz obviously getting older, what 901 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 1: have you, but I just didn't think there was going 902 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,799 Speaker 1: to be a real opening for him there last year. 903 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 1: This year could be a little bit different. I think 904 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,440 Speaker 1: we see him get on the field a little bit. 905 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 1: One of the things I just I just noticed this 906 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 1: Pete Davidson talking about waiting on a quarterback, and then 907 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,839 Speaker 1: in back to back rounds thirteen fourteen, he gets Justin 908 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 1: Herbert and Jared Goff. I mean to wait that long 909 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 1: and still get those two quarterbacks, That's that's a steal 910 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned. 911 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, which to me shows again like how deep that 912 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:41,839 Speaker 2: position is. M I was surprised too. Anthony Richardson went 913 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:46,880 Speaker 2: ahead of like Brock perty, Justin Herbert, Jared Goff. We 914 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,239 Speaker 2: talked about Richardson last week that he brings all the 915 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 2: same upsides, so I think it's like a great pick, 916 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 2: But I did not think that he would go ahead 917 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,880 Speaker 2: of some of those safer quarterbacks. 918 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting too, because he had Nate poll Vote took 919 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 1: Richard's and at the end of the twelve paired him 920 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray, which I don't know. I feel like 921 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 1: I feel like there's a ceiling on Kyler, like he's 922 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:11,319 Speaker 1: hit his ceiling and Richardson we need him to get 923 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,799 Speaker 1: up off the floor. So I you know, I would 924 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,479 Speaker 1: want I would want to have one of those guys 925 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 1: be a little more consistent and explosive, just for my 926 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 1: taste personally. 927 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,799 Speaker 2: It is kind of crazy though, because last year those 928 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 2: guys were going like QB five and six. 929 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:30,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, not now, not now. I do love Lawan planting 930 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,879 Speaker 1: his flag with Jalen Milroe. He has basically stated him 931 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 1: how much he loves Milroe. He takes him in the 932 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 1: fourteenth round that point, So that is kind of the 933 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 1: quick overview of it. You know, we're gonna go pick 934 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,399 Speaker 1: by pick because that's kind of a little bit much. 935 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 1: But we will post this on social media so you 936 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 1: guys can take a look at that. You know how 937 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: this thing turned out. You can obviously certainly leave your 938 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,799 Speaker 1: comments and your thoughts, tell us who you felt like 939 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,880 Speaker 1: I had a good draft, who did not, what have you. 940 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,960 Speaker 1: It's February. It's gonna change a whole lot. It'd be interesting. 941 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,839 Speaker 1: It'll be interesting like in in July to come back 942 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 1: and look at this one and be like, man, what 943 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,479 Speaker 1: were we thinking we should keep. 944 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 2: A screenshot of everyone that we do? And then like 945 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 2: so yeah, like come July, we could just look at 946 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,439 Speaker 2: all like six or whatever it will be and be like, wow, 947 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 2: look at we were idiots here right, like what we 948 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 2: did here? So like I always find that stuff fun. 949 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:18,799 Speaker 1: And it told me like remember when you got Ricky 950 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,880 Speaker 1: pearsall on the tenth, Now he's going in the seventh. 951 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 1: You know, stop. 952 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,240 Speaker 2: Those kind of things by August. 953 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, those kind of things for sure. 954 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 2: Terry McLaurin in around end of round three though, I 955 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 2: I I was so sad I didn't get him. I 956 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 2: loved that pick. 957 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, but one pick ahead of you just you just 958 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 1: missed him. And but then you got DJ Moore, which 959 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 1: I don't think is a terrible actually paired him up 960 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 1: with Did you mean to pair him with Caleb? Was 961 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,120 Speaker 1: that the plan or they just sort of happened? No, 962 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 1: that just kind of happened. Yeah, all right, I don't 963 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,879 Speaker 1: hate it at all, not at all. Ten quick break, 964 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,200 Speaker 1: come back. We will talk some Olympic sprinters maybe something 965 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 1: like that. Stick around for more of the NFL Fantasy 966 00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 1: Football show. Wrap it up the show and as always 967 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 1: appreciate you hanging out with us. Saw this you know 968 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 1: coming across the webs. Recently, Tyreek Hill, who we all 969 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 1: know is very fast and who enjoys challenging other people, 970 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,879 Speaker 1: has challenged Olympic gold medalists medalists. Easy for me to say, 971 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,800 Speaker 1: Noah Lyles to a race in twenty twenty five. Now 972 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,320 Speaker 1: we don't have a date, we don't have a length 973 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 1: of the race. Apparently Tyreek would prefer it being closer 974 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 1: to forty yards. Lyles understandably wants it to be one 975 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 1: hundred meters. That is one of his specialties. Simple question, 976 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,840 Speaker 1: can Tyreek Hill beat an Olympic sprinter in a race? No? 977 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,120 Speaker 2: I think he can, so I just have to google. 978 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 2: One yard is almost equivalent to one meter, so. 979 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 1: It's pretty close. Yeah. 980 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:56,200 Speaker 2: Look, Tyreek is incredibly fast. I think he's too bulky though, 981 00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,440 Speaker 2: Like he's got a lot of muscle. Noah Lyles looks 982 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 2: cut up up, but he's definitely a skinnier dude. Also, 983 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,440 Speaker 2: this is what Noah Lyles does every single day of 984 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,759 Speaker 2: his life. Like Tyreek is fast with pads on and 985 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 2: like to cut in all of that, but just straight 986 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,360 Speaker 2: sprint speed. I don't know. I'm gonna go with the 987 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,360 Speaker 2: guy who's done it and won at a world champion 988 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 2: level before. 989 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,759 Speaker 1: Well, I think I see. I think this is the 990 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:27,600 Speaker 1: reason though Tyreek understands a shorter race benefits him just 991 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 1: because he is shorter than Lyles, he has shorter legs. 992 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,680 Speaker 1: I think he gets up to top speed quicker. But 993 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,680 Speaker 1: over the course of a longer race, when Lyles finally 994 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:41,520 Speaker 1: gets going, I think he eats up that space. I 995 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 1: think he eats up that ground. Right, and you're talking 996 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,720 Speaker 1: about one hundred meters is about one hundred and ten yards, 997 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 1: So it's like you're starting, so you start on one 998 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:50,319 Speaker 1: goal line and you go through the back of the 999 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 1: other end zone basically is what it is. 1000 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 2: That's insane. I did not realize it was that far. 1001 00:49:54,960 --> 00:50:00,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's about one hundred and ten yards. So I 1002 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,919 Speaker 1: think I think a longer race benefits Lyles. I think 1003 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 1: in the end, I think they'll probably meet in the 1004 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,920 Speaker 1: middle somewhere like I don't know, sixty meters or something 1005 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, sixty seventy meters something like that is 1006 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:13,760 Speaker 1: probably where they they sort of split. 1007 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,759 Speaker 2: The difference they do you remember a couple of years 1008 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,600 Speaker 2: ago when the Pro Bowl did like a track race 1009 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 2: and Tyreek participated, but he didn't really run, Like, right, Tyreek, 1010 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,360 Speaker 2: if you're if we're setting this up, you need to 1011 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:26,520 Speaker 2: be going one hundred percent. 1012 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,680 Speaker 1: Well, I think for this he will, right, because this 1013 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:33,920 Speaker 1: is a chance for him to, yeah, sort of claim 1014 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,640 Speaker 1: supremacy for NFL players, because I know that's the whole thing. 1015 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,759 Speaker 1: It's you know, Noah Lyles likes to take shots at 1016 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,239 Speaker 1: other sports. Tyreek Hill definitely wants to stand up for 1017 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,080 Speaker 1: NFL players in a race. Yeah, so this is there, 1018 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:46,160 Speaker 1: This is the opportunity. 1019 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:50,000 Speaker 2: I understand Lyle's argument with like the whole you're not 1020 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,880 Speaker 2: a world champion thing with other shits, but with football 1021 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,240 Speaker 2: it is null and void because please find another team 1022 00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,320 Speaker 2: outside of the thirty two NFL teams that could beat 1023 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 2: the in a game right now, Like you can't, You're. 1024 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:04,520 Speaker 1: Not You're not gonna do it. I mean they are. 1025 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,839 Speaker 1: They are the world champions by default because you know, 1026 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,560 Speaker 1: it's our sport and no one else really plays I 1027 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,440 Speaker 1: mean like no one else really plays it at a 1028 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,520 Speaker 1: high level anywhere else in the world. It's not like basketball, 1029 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,960 Speaker 1: where you know there are a lot of really good 1030 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,640 Speaker 1: basketball players in other countries and good teams in other countries. 1031 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,000 Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen that the gap between the USA 1032 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,640 Speaker 1: and the other countries, at least in men's basketball, and 1033 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,760 Speaker 1: in women's I guess too, But certainly in men's basketball 1034 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:34,440 Speaker 1: that gap has closed pretty significantly over the last few years. 1035 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,960 Speaker 2: And in baseball, I don't know if we're if we're 1036 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 2: the we have the most volume America does, but I 1037 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,800 Speaker 2: don't know if we have the best anymore. Like Otani 1038 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 2: is easily the best player in baseball. 1039 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,279 Speaker 1: Well, and I the World Baseball Classic. I feel like 1040 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,960 Speaker 1: it's legitimately up for grabs every couple of years, you know, like, yeah, 1041 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,640 Speaker 1: the US is competitive, but Japan is very good. Uh, 1042 00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,439 Speaker 1: you know, Puerto Rico has its own team, they're very good. 1043 00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,920 Speaker 1: You know, Mexico, you can go. You can start picking 1044 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 1: naming countries that are all really talented. 1045 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,320 Speaker 2: Dominican Republic always is stacked. 1046 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Dominican I mean, all these other countries have 1047 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:12,759 Speaker 1: legitimate shots to win in baseball. You know, it's part 1048 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,719 Speaker 1: of the reason, and that part of the reasoning was 1049 00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,960 Speaker 1: out of the Olympics for a while because we stopped 1050 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:18,320 Speaker 1: winning it easily. 1051 00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,120 Speaker 2: I really don't want to send like pauls the season 1052 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,680 Speaker 2: in the summer, but I'm always like I would sign 1053 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,160 Speaker 2: up for that because that's when players are actually ready 1054 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 2: to compete. Whereas World Baseball Classic, they're also kind of 1055 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,160 Speaker 2: using it to get ready for the season. 1056 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,000 Speaker 1: It's a little bit of spring training extra, is what 1057 00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,760 Speaker 1: that is. Yeah. Now I would be down with taking 1058 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,120 Speaker 1: a two week break for the Olympics. I think it 1059 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,040 Speaker 1: would be a great way to showcase the sport. I 1060 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,400 Speaker 1: know that the commissioner's not really for it. I know 1061 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,680 Speaker 1: Shohey made a case that they should do it. I 1062 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,040 Speaker 1: think it would be cool when everybody's like warmed up, 1063 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,640 Speaker 1: ear ready to go. But then again, also if you're 1064 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,600 Speaker 1: the Pirates and Paul Schemes blows out his arm playing 1065 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,040 Speaker 1: in the Olympics, yeah you're not going to be thrilled 1066 00:52:58,080 --> 00:52:58,480 Speaker 1: about it. 1067 00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,400 Speaker 2: And the Dodgers pretty much our team Japan right. 1068 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:05,239 Speaker 1: Now, so pretty much. Yeah, that is true, very very 1069 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,400 Speaker 1: true for sure. So any other players you would like 1070 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,719 Speaker 1: to see in a race, maybe not evenst like an 1071 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:12,320 Speaker 1: Olympic sprinter or anything. 1072 00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,200 Speaker 2: I think the obvious answer Xavier Worthy after what he 1073 00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 2: did in the forty last year. I would still to 1074 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,600 Speaker 2: this day, like we've had Chris Johnson on this show before, 1075 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,480 Speaker 2: I to this day would love to see what what Like, 1076 00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,600 Speaker 2: I think he could outrun most NFL players today, even 1077 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,200 Speaker 2: being as far removed from the game as he is. 1078 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,480 Speaker 2: What I really want to see is let's have some 1079 00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,560 Speaker 2: big guys run right, like, yeah, one hundred meter for 1080 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,960 Speaker 2: people who weigh over like three fifty or. 1081 00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,520 Speaker 1: Something like that. I think that's the thing that certainly 1082 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,560 Speaker 1: non football fans I don't think understand is that, yeah, 1083 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,920 Speaker 1: these guys are not you know, they're not as fast 1084 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:52,400 Speaker 1: as Xavier Worthy. These guys are really fast. I mean 1085 00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:56,160 Speaker 1: they are shockingly fast for their size. The fact that 1086 00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:00,839 Speaker 1: even these linemen are running forty yards in under six seconds, Like, 1087 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:06,640 Speaker 1: I don't know that a lot of people comprehend really 1088 00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:10,840 Speaker 1: how fast that is at that size. So I'd be 1089 00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:11,359 Speaker 1: down for that. 1090 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:15,360 Speaker 2: I think the combine has broken people's brains because, like 1091 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,360 Speaker 2: you'll see a running back run like a four to 1092 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 2: six and it's like, oh, well, careers over for him. 1093 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,759 Speaker 2: And the difference between four six and four to four 1094 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:29,480 Speaker 2: is like a microscopic second, Like it's these guys are 1095 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,640 Speaker 2: all extremely fast and athletic and good at what they do. 1096 00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:37,319 Speaker 2: And a offensive lineman could run forty yards faster than 1097 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,520 Speaker 2: most humans can like that, that just shows you how. 1098 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,719 Speaker 1: Good of an athlete they are. Yeah, one hundred percent. 1099 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:44,719 Speaker 1: So I'd be down for that. And also I also 1100 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,200 Speaker 1: want to just see, like, you know, I don't know, 1101 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,200 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford versus Patrick Mahomes or something like that. 1102 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 2: Old quarterback like Joe Flackover's Matt Stafford. 1103 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,799 Speaker 1: Yeah that's why because for years I always wanted like 1104 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,719 Speaker 1: a Peyton Manning Tom Brady foot race, Like that's what 1105 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:00,560 Speaker 1: I wanted for a long time. Maybe we could still 1106 00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:04,400 Speaker 1: make that happen, Like I don't know, but you know 1107 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,839 Speaker 1: I want something like that. Yeah, yeah, you don't get 1108 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,680 Speaker 1: the Manning brother Let the Manning brothers race each other. 1109 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:10,600 Speaker 1: I'd be down for that. 1110 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,280 Speaker 2: If Lakwan was here right now, he'd probably be saying, 1111 00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,360 Speaker 2: like I could beat Tyreek and Noah Lyles in the 1112 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:15,960 Speaker 2: hundred meter. 1113 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,440 Speaker 1: I mean, what animals, You gotta fight a kangaroo like 1114 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:23,160 Speaker 1: he wants to fight a kangaroo Like I wouldn't. I 1115 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't put a whole lot of oh Hue, we love you, man, 1116 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,520 Speaker 1: but you're not fighting a kangaroo. You're not beating Tyreek 1117 00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,279 Speaker 1: Hill in a race. For next show, I have to 1118 00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:33,640 Speaker 1: remember this. 1119 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:35,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask him in our text chain what he 1120 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,520 Speaker 2: thinks he can run the forty in, just to see 1121 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:40,359 Speaker 2: what numbers he puts out there. 1122 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:45,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I'm very curious about that too. So yeah, 1123 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,600 Speaker 1: so stick around for a Thursday show. We can get 1124 00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:51,200 Speaker 1: the more tales of more sales of Lakwan Jones greatness. 1125 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,160 Speaker 1: That'd be amazing. In the meantime, that'll do it for 1126 00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,799 Speaker 1: this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Show. Stay happy, 1127 00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,040 Speaker 1: saved Elfie, do good and live well. Enjoy Today is 1128 00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,399 Speaker 1: everybody who will talk to you in on Thursday. Wow. 1129 00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:30,600 Speaker 2: M