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Speaker 1: Packer's mind life. Do you do you like keep up

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Speaker 1: with the college football world?

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Speaker 5: I mean I watch it casually. I don't study it

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Speaker 5: or follow it to in depth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's so much fun to watch college football knowing.

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Speaker 6: It's a great product. It's just a mess of a sport.

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Speaker 2: Knowing as much as you know about college football, or

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Speaker 2: or just football in general, when you watch college you

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Speaker 2: see all these idiotic mistakes taking place, so all these

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Speaker 2: crazy explosives happen. It is so entertaining. The NFL. It's

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Speaker 2: just it's so put together, that's the thing. It's like

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Speaker 2: the good teams are just gonna play good ball, continue

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Speaker 2: to win, do their thing. Like you watch the Patriots,

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Speaker 2: it's like they don't make mistakes. They have their explosive

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Speaker 2: runs here and there the other exploit, but it's like

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Speaker 2: they're just gonna keep trudge along. They might be the

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Speaker 2: best team is Mike Vrabel.

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Speaker 1: You're coach of the year right now? Greg?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so, I think And again I'm not

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Speaker 5: sure if they have the roster. I think there's a

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Speaker 5: lot of people saying, you know, they're gonna win the

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl. I'm not there yet. I think obviously they're

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Speaker 5: a great story. I think Drake may finds himself in

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Speaker 5: the top, you know, probably three guys in the MVP race,

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Speaker 5: three or four. I can make an argument that are

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Speaker 5: all kind of in it together. I think Varebel is

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Speaker 5: the front runner byle I can't. I'm trying to think

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Speaker 5: who would even be McDonald?

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Speaker 5: I guess the reason Verbel. I guess the reason Verebel

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Speaker 5: holds it for me is just considering obviously he's just

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Speaker 5: and and how bad they've been prior. It's not so

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Speaker 5: much that they're good, it's how fast they've gotten good.

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Speaker 5: I think we saw elements of Seattle last year, even

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Speaker 5: though the offense was a bit disjointed, and obviously he

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Speaker 5: McDonald realized pretty quickly that he had to get that

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Speaker 5: what gives the lead in my mind to Vrabel, just

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Speaker 5: how good he's gotten a team that's been bad for

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Speaker 5: I mean, they've been like bad, bad for multiple seasons

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Speaker 1: Yeah, who oh, yeah, I forget he does. He's probably

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Speaker 1: got o port NOOI say they're gonna win the super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: but let me ask you this his video, his video

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Speaker 5: Hey, listen, they are good. I'm just I'm not there.

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Speaker 5: I'm not ready to say they're going to win the

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Speaker 5: super Bowl yet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl is a stretch.

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Speaker 2: The only thing holding them back is a roster because

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Speaker 2: they really they have the buy in. They play, they

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Speaker 2: play the game well, but it's like, at what point

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Speaker 2: do you get overwhelmed because they just they actually just

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Speaker 2: don't have the talent on the roster to be like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: this is a super Bowl contending team, but they Drake

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Speaker 2: May I mean, imagine if he had like number one

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Speaker 2: a cl not Boody, who you know, kind of has

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Speaker 2: been like a you don't really know what he is.

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Speaker 2: He's a two or is he a three? He's just

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Speaker 2: who It doesn't matter who's out there. He is just

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Speaker 1: Tight En Henry. Let me ask you guys something. If

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Speaker 1: the Patriots win the a f C East, and let's

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Speaker 1: just say they're three four lost team and there are

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Speaker 1: one seed in the a f C, how do you

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Speaker 1: not give Drake May the m v P if he

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Speaker 1: continues to play at the level, Like I don't know,

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Speaker 6: Think if he gets the number one seed, I think

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Speaker 2: The not the knock, because I agree, but the knock

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Speaker 2: is going to be their schedule because everyone even when

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Speaker 2: when I tweeted out yesterday, the Patriots are the best

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Speaker 2: team in the NFL, and all all the people that

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Speaker 2: what they were fourth last year in the AFC East,

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Speaker 2: So your fourth obviously you're playing against all the other

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Speaker 1: And I just think, so you got him winning the

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Speaker 2: Best I think the best team in the NFL right now,

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Speaker 2: I think the I think the Super Bowl winner is

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Speaker 1: You think the Patriots right now are playing at a

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Speaker 1: higher level than the Rams than the Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: I think they're playing at a higher level. Yes, from

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Speaker 2: the other team. Drake may is playing MVP caliber right now,

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Speaker 2: November tenth, whatever day it is, They're the best team

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Speaker 2: a crazy display on defense and offense, and Sam Donald's

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Speaker 2: They're going to lose one or two or even three

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Speaker 2: more games, even with the easy schedule they have. I

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Speaker 2: Sean McVay, McDonald, those are the two coaches that I

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Speaker 2: see hoisting Lombardi at this point going into the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: It's a mind twist right there. I got Seattle on

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Speaker 1: the Rams better than the if they played tomorrow. I

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Speaker 1: got Seattle and the Rams both beating the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: I agree, God Seattle, Seattle.

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Speaker 5: We talked about I think we talked about this last

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Speaker 6: Was the AFC had all the heavy.

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Speaker 5: Denver has I guess the best record. Aren't they right

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Speaker 5: now the best? I don't think anyone pretends that they're

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Speaker 5: the best team in the conference. I don't think that's

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Speaker 5: if you've watched them play at.

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Speaker 1: Last week.

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Speaker 2: I mean, after that game was easy to jump ship.

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Speaker 6: Sorry, no, no, So.

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Speaker 5: I think coming into the season, right it's always been

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Speaker 5: where do all the heavy hitting quarterbacks lie. They've they've

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Speaker 5: one in Drake May. But I think right now, the

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Speaker 5: best teams, the best balanced offense, defense, passing, game coaching.

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Speaker 5: I think the best teams are in the NFC. I

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Speaker 5: think the depth of quality NFC teams, even if all

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Speaker 5: the superstar name quarterbacks might be on the other, you know,

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Speaker 5: I still think Green Bay is going to be in

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Speaker 1: Detroit.

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Speaker 5: Detroit's still going to be in the mix. Dan Campbell

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Speaker 5: like that's a roster that just needs to get some

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Speaker 5: argument that all seven, regardless if you're the seventh while

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Speaker 5: you're the seventh seed wildcard or the number one seed

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Speaker 5: with the bye, I think you can make an argument

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Speaker 5: you could see all of them making a run.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I would agree with that absolutely. Yeah. I

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Speaker 2: just the thing about the Patriots that right now making

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Speaker 2: the best team to me is the balance they have

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Speaker 2: on offense. Like Drake May has been outstanding throwing a

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Speaker 2: deep ball. But I know this conversation always goes back

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Speaker 2: to the run game, Greg, but they ran the ball effectively.

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Speaker 2: They had explosives. Was it Henderson? Is that his name? Henderson?

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Speaker 2: Two explosives, two touchdowns, the fact that he's as fast

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Speaker 1: Should I score?

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Speaker 2: Should I not score? Like that, that team, to me

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Speaker 2: is playing the best football in the NFL. Right now

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Speaker 2: we're going I mean, did you guys were able to

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Speaker 2: watch the Seattle Cardinals game? No, that was incredible. The

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Speaker 2: game was just watching Seattle and then being able to

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Speaker 2: scored their twenty first point like three seconds into the second.

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Speaker 1: Quarter, because then they have a defensive touchdown.

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Speaker 2: They had two defensive touchdowns. It was Knight who caused

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Speaker 5: It's the best game of the season from a pure

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Speaker 6: It's the best. Now can the game live up to it?

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Speaker 5: And they're two of my favorite teams to study. I

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Speaker 6: We talked about Seattle's doing.

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Speaker 5: It out of twelve and the Rams are The Rams

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree. Who would you have? Who would

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Speaker 5: I've just seen Philly too many times be look dead

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Speaker 6: No, those are the worst. Those are the worst games, right.

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Speaker 5: but we do want drama. We do want close games.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about bad football. What the hell happened at

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that that was bad. I mean, listen to.

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Speaker 6: So it's amazing how quickly you.

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Speaker 2: but also he just has these crazy like lapses in

438
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Speaker 2: judgment sometimes, and yeah, he just holds the ball for

439
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Speaker 2: I don't know. You could give me more of insight

440
00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,040
Speaker 2: on that. I'm just I don't know what to buy.

441
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,760
Speaker 5: Well, if I was a left tackle, I would agree

442
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,919
Speaker 5: with you, because I think cast protecting from him is stressful.

443
00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,159
Speaker 5: I don't think you now. I say that, and then

444
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,560
Speaker 5: I look at yesterday. If I'm the offensive line in Chicago,

445
00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 5: I'm buying him a stake dinner right now. Because the

446
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 5: Giants pressured him at one of the highest rates of

447
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,879
Speaker 5: the entire season that the Bears had faced.

448
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,360
Speaker 6: They could not get him on the ground.

449
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 5: It was almost like a you know, like you see

450
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,400
Speaker 5: those videos, are those like really talented high school kids

451
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,159
Speaker 5: where it looks like they're playing the wrong sport and

452
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 5: they just no one can tackle.

453
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Speaker 6: Then that's really what it looked like.

454
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 5: I mean, Thibodeau had him ten times in the backfield,

455
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,919
Speaker 5: couldn't get him down. Brian Burns has them, can't get

456
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 5: him down. He's escaping, he's scrambling, he's making really accurate

457
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 5: throws downfield. He got killed by drops yesterday. His team

458
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 5: had probably six drops easy.

459
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Speaker 6: Yesterday.

460
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Speaker 5: Of all the tape that I had watched of him

461
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Speaker 5: and all studying him, yesterday was by far the most

462
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,439
Speaker 5: impressive ball he's played.

463
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,679
Speaker 6: I think through his first year and a half in

464
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Speaker 6: the league.

465
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Speaker 5: He was incredible escapability, not taking sacks, which obviously was

466
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,439
Speaker 5: a huge issue last year. And then he was a

467
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 5: lot more accurate throwing the ball downfield. That had kind

468
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 5: of been his shortcomings coming into the game. His accuracy

469
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 5: completion percentage was down, but his guys let him down

470
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 5: a little bit with some drops. But he was He

471
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Speaker 5: was fantastic, and then obviously the two game, the back

472
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,880
Speaker 5: to back touchdown drives to win the game.

473
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Speaker 4: Late.

474
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Speaker 5: It's as good a ball as he's played, It's as

475
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Speaker 5: good a ball as you can play. At the quarterback position.

476
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what day Bowl is not helping himself

477
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,119
Speaker 1: out with these hot seat conversations.

478
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Speaker 2: I just think they I think if you're the ownership

479
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 2: with the Giants, you got to sit there and be like,

480
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 2: you have a very unique quarterback personality wise, you have

481
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 2: a very unique running back who's hurt personality wise. They've

482
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 2: given they've given the Giants life. You have a pass

483
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 2: rushing unit that every single guy can get double digit

484
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 2: sacks that they really wanted to throughout the season, like

485
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 2: give him one more year. But the whole decision on

486
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 2: fourth and one, thin at the penalty and not taking

487
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 2: it like that to me is like you just you

488
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 2: gotta you gotta go for it.

489
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Speaker 1: Bad fourth quarter losses, Yeah, we have the lead by ten,

490
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:44,360
Speaker 1: you're up.

491
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Speaker 7: Do what they have the The Giants have had the

492
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Speaker 7: lead by ten points in four in the fourth quarter,

493
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Speaker 7: a ten pointly in the fourth quarter four times, lost

494
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Speaker 7: all four.

495
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Speaker 1: Games, right, and I'm saying, like the last two, like

496
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Speaker 1: that's that right there, the last two Like with the

497
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: Bears and the Broncos, that decision on take hey, we'll

498
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Speaker 1: decline this another opportunity to try to score points and

499
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 1: go up twenty four to ten. Yeah, he doesn't help.

500
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Speaker 1: All I'm saying is he's not helping him So are

501
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 1: you calling for his head? Right, No, I'm saying he's

502
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 1: not helping himself. He doesn't help himself.

503
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's just.

504
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Speaker 5: I agree because so much of the ball at times

505
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 5: looks really good, you know. And again, they're playing without

506
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 5: Molikue neighbors, they're playing without Skataboo, Like they're depleted a

507
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 5: little bit.

508
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:29,400
Speaker 6: At the skill positions.

509
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Speaker 5: I think defensively, they are grossly underperforming the amount of capital,

510
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,919
Speaker 5: draft capital, free agent, you know, just in a cap,

511
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 5: you know, allocation only the Steelers have spent more money,

512
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 5: Like they've gotta get more out of the defense.

513
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Speaker 6: And you know, you have ten point leads.

514
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,640
Speaker 5: I don't care if the offense takes a knee every

515
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 5: play for the rest of the game. Like, at some point, somebody,

516
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 5: one of these first rounders, one of these top ten picks,

517
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,160
Speaker 5: one of these hundred million dollar man, somebody upfront needs

518
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,119
Speaker 5: to just make a play and end the game with

519
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 5: a sack of strip, fumble something. They can't take the

520
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 5: ball away, they can't close games. And and then just

521
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 5: some of the decision making and now what was ironic

522
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 5: was he Davel was super aggressive, rightfully, so super aggressive

523
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 5: with fourth down the rest of the game. I think

524
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 5: he went for fourth down three or four times. Now

525
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 5: they only got one, but he was super aggressive the

526
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 5: entire game, not settling for field goals. The wind was

527
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 5: a little tricky, so that like forty plus yard field

528
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 5: goals was a little dicey for both sides.

529
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Speaker 6: Fourth and goal on the half yard.

530
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Speaker 2: Line, Yeah, yeah, you got you gotta go after that,

531
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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean that's I'm sure you're seeing in

532
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,360
Speaker 2: the broadcast being like, okay, they got to go forward here,

533
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 2: and then you're we were found.

534
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 5: We were adam it, and then the second we said it,

535
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 5: the second they didn't go for it. It just felt

536
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 5: like that was the knockout punch. And again it was

537
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 5: it was Russ's first drive taken over. So Dart got

538
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 5: on the fumble, Dart hit his head and he kind

539
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 5: of got up slow, and then we kind of watched

540
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 5: him go to the side and no one really checked

541
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 5: him out. He kind of waved everyone off, and we

542
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 5: thought he was just disappointed that he fumbled, is why

543
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 5: he got up slow. He came back out, he took

544
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 5: two more plays and then he disappeared into the tent

545
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 5: and we never saw him again. And obviously Russ takes over.

546
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 5: But on the first drive, Russ's drive took him down

547
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 5: to the one yard line. Russ Rush tried to take

548
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 5: it in on third down, he went back to pass,

549
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 5: kind of got caught up in the pocket, took off

550
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,199
Speaker 5: ran Hard, got stopped at the one, and then they

551
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 5: kicked the field goal. So the first drive with Russell

552
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 5: Wilson prop was by far their best drive and their

553
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 5: most likely scenario to score a touchdown. And then over

554
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 5: the next six plays following that field goal, they had

555
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 5: six plays for minus two yards.

556
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Speaker 6: So it was just it was over.

557
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you were you able to watch the Bills

558
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 2: Dolphins game at all?

559
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 6: I wasn't it was going on the same time as ours.

560
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: Because I kind of I put it on and it

561
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 2: was already sixteen zero. It was like right before half.

562
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 2: And then in the third quarter, Josh Allen takes them

563
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 2: all the way down the field throws a pick in

564
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 2: the end zone. I don't know if this is before

565
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 2: or after they do like their version of the Toush push.

566
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 2: He gets like six seven yards, The ball gets popped out,

567
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 2: and it just seemed like every single time the Bills

568
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 2: started to catch a little bit of momentum, the Miami Dolphins,

569
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 2: wo to me, are as good as dead in the

570
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 2: NFL season, Like they just kept stopping them and coming

571
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 2: alive and putting Josh Allen, who is the running MVP,

572
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 2: and the situations where okay, go do MVP things and

573
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 2: he just didn't do it.

574
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was well and too like once the explosive

575
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,959
Speaker 1: pop against the Bills defense, which we've talked about before,

576
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: like the running game a chain. Yeah, like when those

577
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: explosive play plays happen and you're just Josh Allen on

578
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: the sideline, You're just I mean you saw it a

579
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 1: couple of times. Yeah, his body language and him answered

580
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 1: at the podium after the game. It just seems like

581
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 1: a little bit of spark has been taken away from

582
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: Josh Allen a little bit. But yeah, I could not

583
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: believe the Dolphins beat their ass yesterday, beat.

584
00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 5: Their ass, and think of the two weeks that you know,

585
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,959
Speaker 5: we talk about Carolina having a letdown, right, we talk

586
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 5: about you're not used to being in that position. You

587
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 5: just have a huge win on the road in Lambeau.

588
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 5: But think of the last couple weeks of the Bills.

589
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 5: They win by forty against the Panthers on the road.

590
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 5: Then they have a huge matchup against the Chiefs where

591
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 5: they really play well and they win against their biggest rival,

592
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 5: like and all of a sudden, it's like, all right,

593
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,360
Speaker 5: the Bills are back. Any concern before the bye week,

594
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 5: We're not worried about those two losses. Like, they are back.

595
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 5: And then you said it, the Dolphins were dead. Everybody

596
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 5: was shocked that they didn't make a coaching change after

597
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 5: that Thursday Night debacle a couple of weeks. What was

598
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 5: that last week and the week before. Yeah, so you know,

599
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 5: I give the Dolphins a lot of credit. That is

600
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 5: not easy, man. We've all been on those teams, most guys.

601
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 5: Maybe not everybody, but most guys have been on those

602
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 5: teams where it's just a tough season, it's a lost season,

603
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 5: and it really just comes down to finding out in

604
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 5: the locker room, like who truly is willing to compete

605
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 5: when you're not really in the running for anything and

606
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 5: you're really just playing for pride and you're playing for

607
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 5: all this stuff. People stand at the podium and talk

608
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 5: about but are you really willing to do it? That's

609
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 5: pretty impressive, Like to come out and beat one of

610
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 5: the top the printial, one of the top teams in

611
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 5: the league, a division rival. I give them a lot

612
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 5: of credit, man, because they were in the bullseye. People

613
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 5: were taking shots from all over the place calling for

614
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 5: people's jobs. And tell you what, the NFL is a

615
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 5: funny world, man. It can flip on a dime, especially

616
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 5: this year, because I'm not sure there.

617
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 6: Is a clear cut top dog.

618
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 5: I think we have a group of teams that we

619
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 5: think are the going to pull away. But it is

620
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 5: a very very even league right now. And obviously that's

621
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 5: by design.

622
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: Yeah too, like going off of it, like when you're

623
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: out of it and being on those teams, it's like

624
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: when you're pretty much out of everything, and like the

625
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: GM gets fired and movement is happening in the organization.

626
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: Like also your schedule kind of changes as a player too,

627
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: like you'll do more walk through. It's like coaches start

628
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: switching it up because it's like, hey, we're not fined

629
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: for nothing. Guys seem a little depleted. Let's take care

630
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: of him a little bit more so to show up

631
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: and put an ass beating on the Bills like they did.

632
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: It is like they're having fun in the locker room.

633
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: The team is still fighting, which is you know, hats off,

634
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: Hats off to the staff, have hats off to the

635
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: players for still like staying in the fight.

636
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just so confusing when we talk about the

637
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 2: Panthers and how they are. They're a little bit above

638
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 2: five hundred. Maybe this group's number one before, so it's

639
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 2: like understandable they go and drop them for the Bills.

640
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 2: It's like, you guys have since Josh Allen's been your quarterback,

641
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 2: you have had success. You've been competing for Super Bowls,

642
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: going deep in the playoffs every single year and having

643
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: two back to back wins. Obviously, you have to get

644
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 2: up very get up big for your biggest rival like

645
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 2: the Chiefs last week. But there should be no drop off,

646
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 2: like you no, because.

647
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: You've had coaches been there forever.

648
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got Josh Allen, Like, I don't know, I

649
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 2: don't know what to make of that.

650
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, going over.

651
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 5: So it makes this league so hard though, right because everything

652
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 5: we say about the teams that aren't used to winning

653
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 5: having to learn how to sustain the other side of

654
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 5: that coin is human nature of the reason certain organizations

655
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 5: don't have prolonged success, right with the Bills have done,

656
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 5: the Chiefs, the Patriots, some of these teams that have

657
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 5: had long sustained periods of success. That is an absolute

658
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 5: opposition to the way human nature works. It's the opposition

659
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 5: of the way the league is designed. So that's equally challenging, right,

660
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 5: That is an equally hard thing to do to get

661
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 5: up knowing you are everyone's biggest game week after week.

662
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 5: Maybe the roster is a little depleted, maybe the injuries,

663
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 5: maybe you're not as good as you were in the

664
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 5: years past.

665
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 6: But that when people see that Bill's.

666
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 5: Uniform and they see Josh Allen behind center, they just

667
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 5: assume it's the same Bills team we've seen over the

668
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 5: last couple of years, this close to, you know, get

669
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 5: into a Super Bowl. So expectations on either side of

670
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 5: that coin can be crippling.

671
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: What do you make in of the AFC North Pittsburgh

672
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: Steelers going out to the going out to LA getting

673
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: pretty handled by the Chargers and Ravens Now, Ravens are coming.

674
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: Ravens are coming, and Ravens are coming.

675
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 6: I think the Ravens win it.

676
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, and I know it sounds silly, and

677
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 5: they were left for dead and there was problems, and

678
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 5: the defense was historically bad yet albeit injured, and obviously

679
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,959
Speaker 5: Lamar's out and how long is he gonna be out

680
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 5: with the hamstring? And it seemed like the sky is

681
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 5: falling and you look at the and I think everyone

682
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 5: who looked at the division said okay, right. You know,

683
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 5: at the moment, the Steelers were on top. And I

684
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 5: think at times the Steelers had looked really good. And

685
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 5: I think at times Aaron Rodgers has looked like Aaron Rodgers.

686
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 5: And the defense makes I think the defense makes critical

687
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 5: plays more than they are just like an overall good unit.

688
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 5: I think they've spent a gazillion dollars on the defense.

689
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 5: I think on a play by play basis, I don't

690
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 5: think they're particularly great. I think they make incredible splash plays,

691
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 5: right like it's the fourth quarter, you haven't called TJ.

692
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 5: Watts name yet, and then it's stripped sack fumble and

693
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 5: it's like the game is over. So like that's where

694
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 5: they've kind of rested their head and that's where they've

695
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 5: made their money. When they don't get those splash negatives.

696
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 5: I think they're just okay. Last night kind of I'm

697
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 5: with you. They got it, you know, they got taken

698
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 5: to them by by the Chargers. I still think they're solid.

699
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 5: I still think, like most years, the Tomlin led team

700
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 5: is going to be a playoff caliber group. They're going

701
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 5: to find themselves in it somehow, some way. But if

702
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,959
Speaker 5: I'm a bet man today, I think a healthy Lamar

703
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 5: and a Baltimore team that's in a tough, bad division,

704
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 5: I think they're the favorite to win it in my

705
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 5: in my mind at least.

706
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're minus two seventy on Fandel. They're only one

707
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 2: game back.

708
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 6: Right now, So what does that mean?

709
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 2: Minus two seventy So if you bet, you have to

710
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 2: bet two hundred and seventy dollars to win one hundred dollars,

711
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 2: and so they're they're.

712
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 5: So that means there so they have the that would

713
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 5: be the worst odds.

714
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're They're the Ravens. Even though they're not leading

715
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: the division right now, the sportsbooks saying they're still a

716
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: heavy favorite to win the division. So it speaks more

717
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: about Pittsburgh not being They're not gonna be able to

718
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: hang on. They're gonna be too inconsistent, right.

719
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 2: And Aaron didn't obviously didn't play well, But I don't

720
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 2: understand why your running back Jalen Warren has been playing

721
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 2: so well and it's getting been that get out of

722
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 2: jail free cart in a lot of ways. For your

723
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 2: running game. Last night, you start running Johnson more, who

724
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: you know hasn't really been seen since he had that

725
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 2: muffed kickoff return early in the season. It's like, why

726
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 2: why aren't you staying with this guy unless there's an

727
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: injury we don't know about. Yeah, because he's like saved

728
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: them a lot of ways, like twelve personnel, big guys

729
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 2: we talk about, like the way they run the ball,

730
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 2: like Warren, it does a great job of running the

731
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 2: outside zone and then the perimeter run game as well.

732
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 2: And then as Johnson, he's kind of proven did a

733
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 2: great job at Iowa. It's kind of proven, like he's

734
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 2: he's got to learn a little bit more before we

735
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 2: can see if he's really gonna be successful. Like just

736
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 2: keep doing the same thing. When your defense has a

737
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 2: great game last week and I have to travel across

738
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 2: the country to the West Coast against a really good

739
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 2: defense of Jesse Mentor's Chargers, you just I don't understand

740
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 2: that unless there's an injury we just don't know about. Yeah,

741
00:33:58,640 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 2: it's frustrating.

742
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: Just need Yeah I had him plus three. You had Pittsburgh.

743
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: Mine needed it. Yeah, Pittsburgh was underdogs.

744
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 2: Yeah I had him as well. That's that's heartbreaking, dude.

745
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 2: What do you What can you make of JJ McCarthy

746
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 2: for me? Like, there's times he seems like, oh, this

747
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 2: kid really has juice, Like he's got a couple of

748
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 2: third downs, he's putting the ball in a perfect spot

749
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 2: only where the wide receiver can catch. And then other

750
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 2: times he's scrambling. It's third and six and he's got

751
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 2: like twenty yards of open field in front of him,

752
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 2: and he decides, I'm just gonna throw it into double coverage.

753
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna take this play action pass and throw

754
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 2: a deep shot into double coverage as well. Like, I

755
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 2: know you're not a coach, and I hate putting you

756
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 2: on the spot, but like, what do we got going there?

757
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 5: I think he's a young quarterback who hasn't played a

758
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 5: lot of ball, right, I mean you think he lost

759
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 5: his entire rookie year last year to injury, and then

760
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 5: you know, obviously Sam Darnold steps in and has an

761
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 5: amazing season and carries it over. He missed a serious

762
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 5: amount of time this year with the high ankle. You know,

763
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 5: we covered it a couple of those Vikings games where

764
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,439
Speaker 5: he was out and limited, and they turned it over

765
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 5: to Carson Wentz. So I think the reality for young

766
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 5: quarterbacks in this league is they need to practice, They

767
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 5: need game reps, they need practice reps. And when you

768
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 5: think since he's come into the league, since he got drafted,

769
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 5: the amount of time forget the games, the amount of

770
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 5: practice reps lost due to injury, it's real. And I

771
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 5: think we've seen quarterbacks that play for Kevin O'Connell in

772
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 5: that system. Going back, we can rattle off five six

773
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 5: guys off the top of our head. Even the year

774
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 5: that Kirk Cousins got knocked out, Kirk Cousins was playing

775
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 5: so good he tears his achilles, and then he rolls

776
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 5: in a bunch of guys that we didn't even know

777
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 5: still were in the league, and.

778
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 6: They just keep winning and winning and playing good ball.

779
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 5: And then obviously what he did last year with Sam

780
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 5: and then even at times before he got banged up,

781
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 5: Carson Wentz played well and then we found out that

782
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 5: he was really dealing with something serious that led to

783
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 5: the decline, So that offense is built for good quarterback play.

784
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 5: I still think JJ McCarthy's very talented. I think he

785
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 5: looked like a young, talented quarterback. I think sometimes he

786
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 5: looks in rhythm. I think he's competitive. I think he's

787
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 5: got a little shit to him, and then I think

788
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 5: at times his head pops off, and I think that's

789
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 5: very common, especially for that style of quarterback. And I

790
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 5: don't think, you know, I think the Drake Mays of

791
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 5: the world and guys that come in and are a

792
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 5: little bit more polished and a little bit more refined

793
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 5: and play within the system, and they're not so you know,

794
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 5: improv run around, scramble. Those guys have a little bit

795
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 5: of a higher floor, just in the sense that you're

796
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 5: not going to get the ebbs and flows and the

797
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 5: chaos right. But sometimes the spectacular that you get from

798
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 5: JJ McCarthy and Caleb Williams when they're spinning in circles

799
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 5: and running around, there's a magic to that. There's a fun,

800
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 5: entertaining aspect. The question is is it's sustainable. And I

801
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 5: think what we know and have seen throughout the league.

802
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,919
Speaker 5: Is if you can sprinkle those plays in, great, they're

803
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 5: great like get out of Jail free cards. You can't

804
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 5: rely on that style play in play out. You have

805
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 5: to learn how to play within the confines, understand the agressions,

806
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 5: understand what you're seeing, and play in rhythm. And I

807
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 5: think that's the element right now. That's still a little

808
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 5: bit of a learning curve with Kevin O'Connell up there.

809
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: For McCarthy, Yeah, the learning curve I feel like is

810
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 1: the key phrase there, because again it's you got this

811
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: young quarterback who just doesn't have the scarring that these

812
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: other VET quarterbacks have that Kevin O'Connell's been able to

813
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: work with, Like this is kind of the first pick

814
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: that he's getting to work with and he hasn't had

815
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: a whole lot of reps in the film room, on

816
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: the practice field. Just having those QB conversations, I feel

817
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 1: like there is that high level of IQ that you're

818
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 1: going to have when sitting in a room with Kevin

819
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 1: O'Connell breaking down offense. So we're just not going to

820
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: be able to grade. People are going to grad JJ McCarthy,

821
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: but you're not going to be able to actual to

822
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: actually get a feel for him, probably until the middle

823
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 1: of next year, first part of next year, within those

824
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: first six games. Yeah yeah, it's to me, it's like, yeah,

825
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: it's a rookie quarterback. He's out there. This is his

826
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: fourth was it his fourth game? I think fourth fifth game?

827
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

828
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 2: Right around there, one of those two right right, yeah,

829
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 2: right now, I'm with you. I just you see so

830
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 2: many flashes that's like, oh, this cake can be special,

831
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 2: and then he just does things You're like, what are

832
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 2: we doing here?

833
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: Yeah? Just think he was talking about head spinning, the

834
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: chaos that ensues in certain moments to where you think

835
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: you're in control, but not in a way that you

836
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: want to have. As like a Poys quarterback who's seen

837
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: and played a lot of football, right right, so when

838
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 1: that happens, head goes down, he's going to be trying

839
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 1: to make plays and everything else. Again, very much a

840
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: young quarterback who there's just not enough, they're not enough

841
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: of a sample sizer body of work to great him hard.

842
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 1: People will because again, you're in professional football, that's.

843
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 2: The j you're a top eleven pick.

844
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, fair. Do we have any more for Greg

845
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: before we let him know about this bet, the Boys

846
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: parlay that's still aliveing well tonight.

847
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 2: I think that's the biggest key right there before we

848
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 2: let him go.

849
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, Greg, you're the man. Thank you for coming on.

850
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: Have you kept up with this bet? The boys parlay,

851
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 1: Ricky doubdle hit anytime touchdown, Jamior Gibbs hit anytime touchdown.

852
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,720
Speaker 1: Come on, doll hit anytime touchdown. We have one left

853
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: to night.

854
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 2: One more Greg, one more Lake.

855
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: And it's it's Jalen Hurts anytime touchdown. The Lunch team

856
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: coming into.

857
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 5: Green listen, I think tush push is going to be

858
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 5: at the center of attention today. Remember Green Bay amongst

859
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,240
Speaker 5: other teams, Green Bay was like front and center trying

860
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 5: to eliminate the play. I mean, if you're Siriani, I

861
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 5: think I'm trying to do it as many times in

862
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 5: lambeau Field as the opportunities present themselves, so they get

863
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 5: inside the three or four yard line. I think we

864
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 5: if it's first and goal inside the five, I think

865
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 5: we're seeing Tush push one.

866
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 6: Tush push two, Tush push three, Tush.

867
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 5: Push four and saying I got four downs to toush

868
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 5: push into the end zone. So of all the guys

869
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 5: you just mentioned I I'm probably I don't want to

870
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 5: jinx it, but like I'm feeling best about that.

871
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 2: Nick Sirianni has a huge opportunity for the ultimate troll,

872
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 2: and that's to start the first play of the game

873
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: in a touch push first, past them first and ten

874
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 2: you're on the twenty five.

875
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 1: Gotta respect that under center and.

876
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 2: Just hey, you guys wanted this because it'll go for

877
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 2: four or five on the first place.

878
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 5: I'm on record, especially if they like shifted to it.

879
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 5: You know, just don't like walk out of the huddle

880
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 5: and just run now like that you're gonna run it

881
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 5: like disguise it to some capacity. But I'm on record,

882
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 5: I haven't maybe not quite as much this year, but

883
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 5: didn't it feel like with Kelsey two seasons ago it

884
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 5: was either two or three seasons ago. Now I can't

885
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 5: keep track of it all, but it felt like they

886
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 5: were getting three yards every time they ran a tush push.

887
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 5: Like it wasn't like get a foot and a half,

888
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 5: they were getting like three otes. I thought for a

889
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 5: while there when they had Kelsey and they were really

890
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 5: rolling a couple years ago with the toush push, and

891
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 5: it was new and teams weren't necessarily accustomed to it

892
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 5: at that point. I thought, at the end of the game,

893
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 5: like four minute offense, I thought they could have gotten

894
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 5: first and ten, gotten under center and run four consecutive

895
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 5: Toush pushes at the end of a game to get

896
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 5: a first and take a knee like I thought. I

897
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 5: think they could. I think back then. I don't know

898
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 5: if they can do it anymore, but I thought a

899
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 5: couple of years ago, ten yards and four Toush pushes

900
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 5: I thought was totally reasonable.

901
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would love to see that level of petty

902
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:13,760
Speaker 1: from Sirianni.

903
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 2: Would love to see it.

904
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 5: I'm not sure if they're there right now, but yeah,

905
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 5: you gotta win. There would still be great television, wouldn't it.

906
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 5: I'm a huge Toush push I'm a huge Toush Push fan.

907
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 5: I think it's a I think it's brilliant.

908
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 2: You think it's good for football.

909
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 5: I think it's great for the strategy of the game.

910
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 5: I mean, is it the Philadelphia Eagles responsibility to carry

911
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,439
Speaker 5: what's good for the NFL on their backs? I don't

912
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 5: think it's their responsibility, Like the optics that I don't

913
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 5: think any of that is any of their issue. I

914
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 5: think it is a play that is highly effective. I

915
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 5: think it's a play that nobody else seems to be

916
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 5: able to get right.

917
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 6: And it is anire.

918
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 5: It is baked into every single decision that they make offensively,

919
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 5: from what they call on third and four to what

920
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 5: they do on first and ten, to what they do

921
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 5: on the plus side of the field, to what they

922
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 5: do in the goal line.

923
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 6: I think there is.

924
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 5: A really deep, highly thought through strategy that the tush

925
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 5: push being in their back pocket for a yard and

926
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 5: a half when you snap the ball at if you

927
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 5: told the league, I have to play first and ten,

928
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 5: but you get to play first and eight, it's a

929
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 5: huge advantage.

930
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 1: I love it until I hate it.

931
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 6: I listen, would I want to be the guard?

932
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: What I want?

933
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 5: Would I want my neck broken and dumped on top

934
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 5: of I don't know what? I want to be the

935
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 5: middle linebacker? Get I'm not saying I want to defend it.

936
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 5: But I think if I'm the coach, it's highly productive

937
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 5: and it's a huge part of what they do.

938
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not like A I don't love it like

939
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 2: I think it's amazing, but I hate the idea of

940
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 2: banning the toush push because it's so effective. Like it's like,

941
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 2: that's to me, that's such a ridiculous argument. And it's like,

942
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 2: if you think something's not effective, learn to do it yourself,

943
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 2: or just keep doing it until eventually some DC comes

944
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 2: along that understands how to beat it, and then it's beaten.

945
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 2: But you can't just get rid of a play because

946
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 2: it's good. Yeah, that's that's a crazy argument.

947
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: That I love until I hate it comes in when

948
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 1: the officiating gets a little gray, because I think it's

949
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: a hard play to officiate, especially it's like a couple

950
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 1: of weeks ago when we saw what was the Burns

951
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: kind of ripped the ball out, they called it dead.

952
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, that is he stripped.

953
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 2: Him right, and he's laying on top of five different bodies.

954
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: So the controversy for me is more when it's like, uh,

955
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: it could be officiated poorly, like when fall starts are

956
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: kind of happening, like you know, all that stuff.

957
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 5: But I'm with I guess, I guess the simplest way

958
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 5: to put it is if it was such an easy play,

959
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 5: if it's if it's the ultimate Madden glitch, how come

960
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 5: they're the only team in the league that does it

961
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 5: consistently well.

962
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: Right, I know, because when teams try it and they're

963
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: bad at it, it's.

964
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 6: Like they've never practiced it.

965
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what are you guys scatting? Like, what's the

966
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: philadelph Eagles doing it?

967
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 5: At least that there's a coaching element, there's a person element.

968
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 5: There's a lot of factors that go into whether or

969
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 5: not that play is realistic for your team or not.

970
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 5: And you know, we can go around a lot of

971
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 5: teams over the last couple of years and say that

972
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 5: they were disproportionately better at something than the rest of

973
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 5: the league. And if the notion was let's get rid

974
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 5: of everyone else's advantages, people would laugh at you.

975
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this would be a fun I don't.

976
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 5: Want Aaron Donald. Aaron Donald is not allowed to be

977
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 5: a three technique and spike into the A gap and

978
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 5: make the guard miss because he's so no one else

979
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 5: can do it as good as him, and he tackles,

980
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 5: and he tackles you for a loss every time.

981
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 2: It's not fair. Get rid of it.

982
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:36,439
Speaker 6: It's not fair.

983
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 2: We don't get an Aaron Donald. How come you guys

984
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 2: get Aaron Donald.

985
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't have Aaron Donald, that's not fair that

986
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 5: you could play a three technique in that capacity. I

987
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 5: can't do it, so we should ban it.

988
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't understand why the Cowboys, the Commanders, or

989
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: the Giants haven't tried to contract Jason Kelsey and be like, hey,

990
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 2: teach us, Like, just throw an absolute bag at him,

991
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 2: two million bucks, Jason, come in for a week.

992
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 5: I don't think Kelsey would do it. I think Kelsey's

993
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 5: a loyal Philly guy. I think he's a loyal Philly

994
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 5: guy who's making a lot of money. I don't I

995
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 5: think he is. Like, I think he would go to

996
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 5: his deathbed before he let up any of those in

997
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 5: house secrets of Jeff Stoutlin and those guys holds the keys.

998
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, he would need some Saudi money.

999
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, now that's a different album.

1000
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: Eight figures, nine figures.

1001
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 6: Big for one week of work. Big Domb's not letting

1002
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 6: that happen.

1003
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 2: Big Big Dom would set that out.

1004
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 6: Nopele figure that out quick.

1005
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 2: Greg.

1006
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: You're the man, bro, Thank you for man.

1007
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 2: Appreciate you, man. Have a go. One'll talk to you soon.

1008
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 2: Plus Titans, they hold the number one pick in the

1009
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 2: draft right now, do you see him holding onto that

1010
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 2: prestigees honor or do you see them letting that slip

1011
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 2: away from their from their fingertips.

1012
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 4: Are recording just asking me a question.

1013
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 2: I think we're doing both.

1014
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 3: I would say, I mean prestige.

1015
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 8: Sure. Last year we sell back toward to into the

1016
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 8: first pick. It was who was the Jets that there

1017
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 8: was one team that they won on Week eighteen. I

1018
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 8: think it was the Jets. Well, we were going to

1019
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 8: have the second pace at the Brown No, I think

1020
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 8: it was the Jets. Yeah, they backdoord in the first pick.

1021
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 8: They want a crazy game. We got the first pick,

1022
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,959
Speaker 8: so at least now we know three weeks ahead. Who knows,

1023
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 8: we still play the Saints, Jets, could you know, squeak

1024
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 8: out a couple more losses?

1025
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 6: Who knows?

1026
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 4: Maybe we do some dumb shit?

1027
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 2: Who dumb shit?

1028
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 8: And what at that point in the year where it's

1029
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 8: like football doesn't mean as much as it used to.

1030
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: See Jack Jackson's defeated man in the month of November.

1031
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 8: Right now, Yeah, I mean, hopefully some things shake out.

1032
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 2: But what would shake out? Because you're saying, hey, we

1033
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,919
Speaker 2: might do some dumb shit, I'm thinking, do you want

1034
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 2: the Titans to lose the rest of their games. For

1035
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 2: the one pick, I don't know.

1036
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 8: All I can think about is right now in Nashville,

1037
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 8: it's thirty four degrees. All the home games following right

1038
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 8: now November tenth will most likely be very frigid, and

1039
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 8: I'm not looking forward to being in Nissan Stadium in

1040
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 8: that weather.

1041
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 1: You should be looking forward to who's who in the

1042
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 1: zoo When it comes to this fan base, it is

1043
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 1: the this is the stretch where you're in your stripes

1044
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: right here. You want to know who's in the foxhol

1045
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: with the Tennessee Titans, right And.

1046
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 2: We've learned about the foxhole too, like ten people. That's good, dude,

1047
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 2: all you need, all you need is ten.

1048
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 1: Really eleven football.

1049
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 8: But I'm just yeah, I'm at that point where it's

1050
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:31,760
Speaker 8: just it's difficult.

1051
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 2: You're abysmal year last year. It's tough for the Titans.

1052
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 2: That's like, hey, we're gonna get back on track. We'll

1053
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 2: figure it out. Callahan new year. Two years in a

1054
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 2: row of it going like this, the fan base is gonna.

1055
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 8: I think the big positive look at is how much

1056
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 8: salary cap that we have and just the cap space,

1057
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 8: like that's that's the positive we haven't.

1058
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:54,479
Speaker 6: Had that in a long time.

1059
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 8: Yeah, so who knows, but yeah, that is. I mean,

1060
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 8: by the time it's you know, midway through the spring,

1061
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 8: my allegiance is just fully back on. We're winning the

1062
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 8: super Bowl. So I do hope that we do something

1063
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 8: special with the Cavs face, and I hope they hire

1064
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 8: the right guy. Until we've hired the right guy, I

1065
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 8: can't really make any decision, and I just kind of

1066
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 8: linger in this horrible Titans Tennessee football limbo.

1067
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 3: But yeah, you know we're gonna be in Nissan. Tighten up, man, fun.

1068
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: Show up. We can hit some tier talk. Let's hit

1069
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: some tier talk. We have a shout out here, mister

1070
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: James at the mister James eight on X. Anyone going

1071
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: to talk about how clutch Caleb Williams is when the

1072
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: game is on the line. Hashtag tier talk. I think

1073
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: we did, Yeah, we had. We had a great, fun

1074
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: little breakdown with old Greg there. I'll tell you what,

1075
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: I am the guy looking in the mirror being like,

1076
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: how long am I going to continue to kind of

1077
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: doubt the Chicago Bears, And uh so I pull up

1078
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: their schedule and I hate them do this, but it's

1079
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: like all right, Let's try to find some wins. Let's

1080
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: try to figure out who the Bears have been. Dallas,

1081
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: the Raiders. Oh these is yeah, this is who they beat.

1082
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: Dallas split them wide open? That defense? Who has to

1083
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: split them wide open? They beat the Raiders by one,

1084
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: Commanders by one. They beat the Saints, They they beat

1085
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: the Bengals, they beat the Giants.

1086
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 2: So I just.

1087
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: Throwing that out there, because they are six and three.

1088
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: You gotta give I. I do enjoy watching coach Johnson's

1089
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: post game speeches in the locker room. Yeah, he's like, hey,

1090
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: we're here every week, but we ain't apologizing for how

1091
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: we win. Gives out game balls. I do love his energy.

1092
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: I love how the locker rooms having a lot of fun.

1093
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: I think the boys are rallying around the idea that

1094
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: they are playing meaningful games in November, hopefully December.

1095
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 2: And that is what you pulled up. The wins that

1096
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 2: they've had as a team, You've ignored that and you

1097
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 2: just look at the record and be like, we can

1098
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 2: play with anybody, We can play with any We can

1099
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 2: play with anyone right now.

1100
00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: Big opportunity. Who who they got next week? They got

1101
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 1: the Vikings?

1102
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:01,720
Speaker 2: Give me the next three.

1103
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: Okay, Vikings Division rivalry that'll be in Minnesota.

1104
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 2: Can probably see them winning that.

1105
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: Then they have they host the Steelers.

1106
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 2: Okay, you can see them winning that.

1107
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 1: Then they go to Philly. But if you go, if

1108
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 1: you go two and one, you're again you're sitting there

1109
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: at eight and four, you're sitting there eight and four,

1110
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: eight and four ball club playing some meaningful games in December,

1111
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: which would be the Packers at Green Bay host the Browns, Okay,

1112
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: then they host the Packers again, then they go out

1113
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 1: to San Francisco and play the Niners, and then they

1114
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:40,760
Speaker 1: host the Lions.

1115
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 2: Eight, nine and eight ball club wild Card. But is

1116
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 2: it I don't know if it is in the NFC.

1117
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: NFC will be tough, I was gonna say, especially yeah,

1118
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: NFC West, the way that they're playing right now, they

1119
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: could be looking again three in there.

1120
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yet the Packers are gonna make it, the Lions

1121
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 2: are gonna make it, the Eagles are gonna make it.

1122
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: But we should be able to let Chicago fans have

1123
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: as much fun as possible.

1124
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 2: Have fun because you said in the beginning of the

1125
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 2: year you deserve this. We need new Halloween costumes next year.

1126
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 2: Can't just be Mike Dicka. It can't just be Mike Dicka.

1127
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 2: Get some fingernails painted. Let's let your kids go crazy

1128
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 2: out there. Huh So. Yeah, Caleb Williams and is impressive

1129
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 2: though how elusive he is and I didn't see like

1130
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 2: I didn't see the entire game. I saw bits and pieces,

1131
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 2: but his ability to escape the pocket ran out to

1132
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 2: the left a couple times, one for a touchdown when

1133
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 2: he got down to the one yard line.

1134
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: Thrown across the body, he is like, he is extremely talented.

1135
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 2: Like if you get if Ben Johnson could harness that

1136
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 2: energy when Dan Orlofty's talking about the habits and everything

1137
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 2: like that, if they can get that done.

1138
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,760
Speaker 1: Boys, it seems like they're trending that way ten and seven?

1139
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: Why not? Why not the Chicago Why not you?

1140
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 2: There's gotta be an upsetting there somewhere. It'd be good

1141
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 2: for football. It would be for football.

1142
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: Why not the Bears? Here's another tier talk from Adam

1143
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: Sullivan to hashtag tear talk. Are the days of a

1144
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 1: true pocket passer in the NFL? Gone? A set your feet,

1145
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: get completions or take the sack? QB seems extinct. Not

1146
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: everyone can be my homes, But it seems like you

1147
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: have to have some type of mobility anymore to be

1148
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: consistently productive in today's NFL.

1149
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,439
Speaker 2: Look at Matthew Stafford, like he's he's got a little

1150
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 2: mobility to him. Actually a couple times he got himself

1151
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,479
Speaker 2: around a little bit. But I mean he's a true

1152
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 2: he's a true pocket passer. Jared Goff, true pocket passer.

1153
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 2: Like these are guys that are dicing up the league

1154
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 2: right now, playing really really good ball. Is it dead? No?

1155
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,959
Speaker 2: Are we in a you know, we gotta worry about

1156
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 2: this animal because it's becoming extinct. We got to think

1157
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 2: them to the zoo. Hopefully they can procreate with something else.

1158
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 2: That's kind of the world we're living in.

1159
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: You'll have somebody getting at two of them. You'll have

1160
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: the traditional list I think always in forever, it's at

1161
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: most positions. Yeah, but there are these mutants that are

1162
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: now coming into the league across the board. Right we

1163
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: were having the breakdown last week. We were talking about

1164
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,439
Speaker 1: tight ends, this semi positions with backers and tight ends.

1165
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: You see it a lot with receivers, like you have

1166
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 1: to come in being able to block crazy man.

1167
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 2: They were like the first iteration of the alien. Yeah,

1168
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 2: that was the first alien to step foot on the

1169
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 2: grid iron.

1170
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 9: I feel like the like Christian ponders of the world

1171
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 9: are are over though, Like how there used to be

1172
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 9: that middle of the pack QB in the NFL that

1173
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 9: was just pocket passers. I feel like they're going to

1174
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 9: be extinct.

1175
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, where like.

1176
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 9: Everybody every on the right, like Max, Max Jones, those

1177
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 9: are like great players. But mac Jones is like we

1178
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 9: know ceiling.

1179
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 2: Do we do? We know mac Jones the ceiling or

1180
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 2: we just now seeing I would say mac Jones or

1181
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 2: we just seen the second floor would be.

1182
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: Would be that leveled up middle of the pack, right exactly.

1183
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 1: But you gotta be the best of the best. You're

1184
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: just gonna sit back there in that pocket.

1185
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 2: Sam Darnold, Sammy d that's like he's athletic, but he's not.

1186
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 2: He does he's got some urgency, he's.

1187
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: Got some Yeah.

1188
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 7: I would say he's like athletic, as athletic as bow Knicks.

1189
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, but no, Sam Donald doesn't have quarterback

1190
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 2: design runs in the play, but for him, bow Knicks does.

1191
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 6: But he could.

1192
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 2: Dog. I don't think. I don't think Sam Donald is

1193
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 2: getting other than your hey QB paint once in a while.

1194
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: I would say if Sam Donald arm shoulders everything else,

1195
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: if he had the genetic of bow Knicks, he would

1196
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: not be as successful as bow Knicks were. With the

1197
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: athletic ability, I'll say if you I'm saying Sammy D,

1198
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,879
Speaker 1: He's got a much better arm, much better accuracy, much

1199
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: better arm strength if you gave him bow Knicks's makeup

1200
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: as far as arm strength and accuracy. Like, but like,

1201
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the athletic ability. I'm just saying he

1202
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: doesn't have the athletic They're not.

1203
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,359
Speaker 2: I don't think they're in the same category. Knicks is like,

1204
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 2: you're he's your first tier. I'm starting a creative player.

1205
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 2: He's gonna have a level of ac athleticism. Yeah, but

1206
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 2: he's not. I mean he's not Lamar Jackson's Notting Homes

1207
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 2: Josh Allen.

1208
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying Sam Darnold is not as athletic as bow Nicks.

1209
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, but who would you rather have? D?

1210
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: Like Ty Simpson is going to be coming out that urgency,

1211
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 1: high ball a pie, yeah, mobility.

1212
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 2: And it's going to be a Sammy D compared to

1213
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,720
Speaker 2: by Simpson is like Ty Simpson is the perfect example

1214
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 2: of like the new pocket passing quarterback Yeah, where it's like, yeah,

1215
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 2: he's got he can move his legs a little bit,

1216
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 2: but like there's no quarterback design runs, being like, we

1217
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 2: got to get.

1218
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: That's a pocket pass Baker.

1219
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 7: Where would you where would you categorize Baker gamer?

1220
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's an elusive he's elusive.

1221
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, Baker would be like, yeah, pocket quarterbacks like that,

1222
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 1: you need to have that ability. Baker's got that.

1223
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 2: Baker doesn't have design runs. He's out, he's not a

1224
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 2: dual threat.

1225
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 7: Like, so, is that what you're saying is that you

1226
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 7: need to be you need to have design runs in

1227
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 7: order to be athletic.

1228
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 2: I think that's where I'm leaning as we're kind of

1229
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 2: having like a think tank right now on the bus. Yeah,

1230
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 2: there needs to be two to three quarterback design runs.

1231
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 2: That's like, oh, the coaching staff believes you can run

1232
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 2: like that. Caleb Williams can run like that. Lamar Jackson. Obviously,

1233
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 2: Mahomes is a unique one. We're not doing QB design

1234
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 2: runs with Mahomes. But he's shown me enough. He's shown

1235
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 2: me enough elusivity to get around a little bit. I

1236
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 2: like that. Jalen Hurts quarterback design runs, Josh Allen quarterback

1237
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 2: design runs. Aaron Rodgers pocket passer, used to be able

1238
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:37,720
Speaker 2: to he Drank Malle quarterback design runs. He's got a couple.

1239
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 2: Drake May's kind of got it all he can. He

1240
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 2: can't fuck you, Drake mayhold the ball up here. You

1241
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 2: see did you see the one yesterday? He actually had

1242
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 2: the ball up here. The guy was trying to get it.

1243
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 2: He had the ball like this, pusted you down and

1244
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 2: then threw the ball. So, yeah, Drake May's got it.

1245
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 2: He's got the technique in.

1246
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: Fundamentals's got some cute feet. I wouldn't say he's got

1247
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: design runs, but he's got cute enough feet to make

1248
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 1: a little bit of magic.

1249
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 6: But he's more of you're saying.

1250
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 7: You're saying Jordan Love sweet.

1251
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: He's got the sweetest, sweet, sweet sweet feet.

1252
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 3: What about Jordan Love?

1253
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 2: Completely different player when he's under pressure as opposed to

1254
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 2: clean pocket. Is he elusive? I don't know you can

1255
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 2: pass your You're bringing up the my man's tweet like, yeah,

1256
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 2: Cam Woarre's got running ability to him. Not a quarterback

1257
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 2: design run guy though, not a quarterback, but for his

1258
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 2: life he can make some magic with Yeah. He gets

1259
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 2: out a little bit like he's more elusive than he's like, Okay,

1260
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 2: you got your sam Donold's, then your Drake May is

1261
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 2: probably a level above that on the elusivity chart. And

1262
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 2: then it goes up and up and out. Baker's above,

1263
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 2: I would say above Cam.

1264
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: We might need a graphic for this.

1265
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 6: Donald.

1266
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: We're talking a lot of essentially the meet.

1267
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 2: There's thirty two two tears. It's kind of where my

1268
00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 2: brain is going right now.

1269
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: The median now of quarterback play is not as much

1270
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 1: pocket passer. It is now more having.

1271
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 3: Legs out of the starting quarterbacks. Who is the perfect

1272
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 3: balance in this in this discussion?

1273
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 2: That's a great, great question.

1274
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got Josh Allen, Drake May, Patrick Mahomes, he

1275
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: would it would be Jalen hurts Man or doesn't turn

1276
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: it over. He's a good quarterback. But we're talking about

1277
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: who's the best in this conversation.

1278
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 2: Could you imagine Justin Herbert of Eagles, Justin Herbert quarterback, buddy,

1279
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 2: perfect quarterback. I love this question. I mean Lamar Jackson's leg,

1280
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 2: Lamar's legs.

1281
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 6: Baker's ship.

1282
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Baker's Baker's moxy.

1283
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 2: Okay, uh dude, arm strength I know we kind of

1284
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 2: want to lean Josh Allen, but what about Kayleb Williams,

1285
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 2: Rock buddy, he can the freaking ball.

1286
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,919
Speaker 10: I was watching the forty nine Ers game and Caleb

1287
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 10: Williams like the difference between his throw and Mac Jones.

1288
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: No, I love Mac.

1289
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 10: Jones, but Caleb can can rip it every time he throws.

1290
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 6: Stafford. Stafford can rip it.

1291
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: Stafford.

1292
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, you want Stafford's brain, you can. We're putting Stafford's

1293
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 2: We're putting Stafford's accuracy.

1294
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 7: Stafford's putting it wherever he wants. He doesn't have to look,

1295
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 7: and he's just yeah.

1296
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: I mean Aaron Rodgers, arm bro I mean, obviously he's old,

1297
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 1: he's old.

1298
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 3: Starters, but we're forgetting Joe Burrow, Like, do not want

1299
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 3: his achilles?

1300
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 2: Yeah yeaht up waste, not.

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00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: Want his legs?

1302
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 3: Joe Burrows Yeah yeah, yeah, face.

1303
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 2: Hair, Patrick Mahomes playmaking ability? Is that? Is that a category?

1304
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 2: Can we put that in there?

1305
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow? Joe Burrow's serial killer brain.

1306
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 2: Drake May's deep ball or got some good quarterbacks out there?

1307
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 2: We got some good quarterbacks out there.

1308
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 1: No tier talk from Chris Fratelli hashtag tear talk. This

1309
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: is for Taylor as former players, how can you explain

1310
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: the Baker, Danny Dimes, Donald mac jones career resurgence coaching.

1311
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 2: It's gotta be it's yeah, right, it's yeah. Dudes being

1312
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 2: locked in, dudes being high draft picks, getting knocked off

1313
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 2: their pedestal, finding a new place, new energy, new way

1314
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:41,919
Speaker 2: to go about their study, habits, their processes like.

1315
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 1: And not buying into the doubt that kind of creeps

1316
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 1: in your mind when you are having down moments.

1317
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 3: It shows that these guys that get drafted obviously very

1318
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 3: high to the worst teams just truly get put in

1319
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 3: an awful situation, brutal.

1320
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 2: Situation, and it takes like a true talent to overcome

1321
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 2: those brutal situations.

1322
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 7: I mean, you're gonna tell me, I said, you're truly fucked.

1323
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 7: I mean, you're gonna look at me and tell me

1324
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 7: I'm wrong.

1325
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 2: I think, like question if you're a generational guy doesn't matter.

1326
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Joe Burrow, Joey b I'm so.

1327
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 2: Glad you brought him back in the conversation because I

1328
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 2: truly forgot about Joe Burrow.

1329
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 7: Joey Be is the only one to go into a

1330
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 7: ship franchise and turn it completely around in the last

1331
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 7: five ten years.

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01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 3: That's kind of fair.

1333
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 2: It's fair. It's fair face value. It's fair at face value.

1334
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: But like Drake May, we'd obviously have to bring up

1335
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: something like it's like, so you're to Manny came in.

1336
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: They were brutal, and I said, five to ten years, okay, that.

1337
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 2: Was over twenty that was not nice. If you took

1338
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow and you put them on the Jets turns

1339
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 2: it around.

1340
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 3: I feel, I mean, they didn't draft, they didn't draft,

1341
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 3: they didn't draft Jamar Chase. Like Arry, I think the.

1342
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 10: Jets would be Jets would be kind of nice with Burrow,

1343
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 10: with that defense, they had some some Quinn and Williams.

1344
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 1: Williams gone, and then like if.

1345
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 7: He was on the Jets, the Jets drafted Zach Wilson.

1346
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 4: He's third on the death chart.

1347
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 2: How sick are you if you're like the Jets, you're

1348
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 2: the Cardinals Josh Rosen a few years ago.

1349
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 7: I mean Kyler Murray like he like he got he

1350
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:20,959
Speaker 7: drafted number one overall and like, I mean, they're still

1351
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 7: kind of ship.

1352
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 10: Kyler Murray is a good one. Not to steal this

1353
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 10: tier talk but do you think Kyler Murray will have

1354
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 10: a resurgence on a new team next year he's not

1355
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 10: with the Cardinals. Do you think there's a chance that

1356
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 10: Kyler can become that type of quarterback that needs the

1357
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 10: chance he goes to Minnesota.

1358
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gotta go. He's gotta everyone. There is to

1359
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 2: be a line at the door the Rams. Yeah, there

1360
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 2: needs to be like a seminar and like the Cape

1361
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 2: the Kevin O'Connell just puts on once a year. It's

1362
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 2: all like backup quarterbacks. That's how quarterbacks play gets better. Wait, Jets,

1363
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 2: oh have success. He's got to go to Minnesota first,

1364
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 2: and then it does matter where he goes.

1365
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 1: Didn't know golf won a Super Bowl with the Rams. Yeah,

1366
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 1: he lost, lost to Bowl, went to Super Bowl. He

1367
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 1: like he was one in that because I feel like

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01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 1: turn it around.

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01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 7: He turned it around, like he was there. They were

1370
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 7: kind of bad for a couple of years and then

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01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 7: they like once McVeigh got hired, they went and.

1372
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just saying, Detroit, you never turned around.

1373
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 2: They still win when sixteen they still sucked. Yeah, that

1374
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 2: is a great argument for Joe Burrow and how good

1375
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 2: he is with Stafford at Detroit.

1376
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 7: I mean, because you can't necessarily say it about Mahomes

1377
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 7: because they were good with Alex Smith before him. You

1378
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 7: can kind of say it about Josh Allen like they they.

1379
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Josh, Josh Allen's a good one. Yeah, I mean win.

1380
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 1: So your statement kind of just got thrown in the

1381
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 1: trash two people, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow. Uh,

1382
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 1: we just said Stafford and Jared Goff.

1383
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I think the argument bill playoff team when

1384
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 2: they draft because Jared Goff they weren't good that McVeigh

1385
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 2: got there, which is great coaching. So that's that's kind

1386
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 2: of like the changeing go with there. Jeff's great quarterback.

1387
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 3: Would you put Herbert in there?

1388
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 7: I feel like fringe g Herbert, fringe guy. Hebert is

1389
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 7: supposed to start his first Gamey Taylor got poked in

1390
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 7: the lung and that's how he started.

1391
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers. They do it on purpose, so they're always

1392
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 1: pretty salty. Chargers were always pretty salty.

1393
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, they weren't like an abysmal franchise, Like what are like,

1394
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:26,959
Speaker 2: what are the worst franchises? The Browns, the Jets. Well,

1395
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 2: I see the Giants kind of giants have had success

1396
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 2: in this century though, No.

1397
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 1: Ye, But before that they had.

1398
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 2: Watch, they had Shaun Watson, they had a great defense.

1399
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 2: They were competing in the A C South every year Jags,

1400
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence, je Jade Daniels, Trevor.

1401
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 1: Lawrence to Washington is trash this year, man. But even

1402
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 1: when he's played there.

1403
01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 2: They still I feel like w it has the product

1404
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 2: truly changed at the quarterback position with the Commanders Jayden Daniels,

1405
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 2: Marcus Merita. Has the product really changed that much? No,

1406
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 2: I don't think I don't think so either. And it's like,

1407
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 2: if you're a Washington fan, you're in hell because this

1408
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 2: is twenty fifteen twenty sixteen all over again.

1409
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1410
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 1: Just defensively, it's fuck.

1411
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 2: Gilimoto. Gillamoto has a nice Gilli Moto. Gillimoto has a

1412
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 2: nice tear. We got a Bears fan right here. How

1413
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 2: many points per game do you think a head coach

1414
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 2: is worth?

1415
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 1: Diehard Bears fan here, I'm almost willing to give Ben

1416
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 1: Johnson plus six points. This is a per This is

1417
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 1: a per team by team basis. See Rabel is like

1418
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 1: plus three and a half. But I think at this

1419
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 1: point for Able over Johnson.

1420
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 2: If you have this whole thought process in one tweet,

1421
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson's for sure worth six points. They score on

1422
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 2: every drug opening drive and that's just your script, your

1423
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 2: top fifteen.

1424
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 6: What would you say McVeigh is.

1425
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 2: McVay is tough because Stafford?

1426
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, these are so all these but definitely.

1427
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 2: Nine. How you going to just playing the Gillia motto game.

1428
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: But for Gilly moto? How you giving Ben Johnson six

1429
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 1: and Brable three and a half. And you're like, but

1430
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 1: I like Rabel.

1431
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 2: That's like me saying the Patriots the best team, but

1432
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 2: I also think are better and Red But I don't know,

1433
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1434
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 7: Andy Reid did it with McNabb and stuff in Philly

1435
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 7: and then with Alex.

1436
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 1: You got to give Andy Reid at least plus eight

1437
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 1: more than giving double digits Andy Reid more than Braves. Yeah.

1438
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 1: I think you look at the historically like their resumes.

1439
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:53,919
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, uh cam at Cameron Leech twenty three,

1440
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 2: George Jonathan Taylor deserves MVP if it keeps this up.

1441
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 2: I get it's a quarterback award, but this is a historic,

1442
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 2: historic season. Should the NFL move to an MVP and

1443
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 2: a MVQB award. No, I think we need to get

1444
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 2: back to who's the best player in the NFL, and

1445
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 2: right now it's Jonathan Taylor. Without a doubt. He's got

1446
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 2: Do you have three again?

1447
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1448
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 7: I saw a stat between through ten games last year,

1449
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 7: Saquon had like I think Jonathan Taylor's had eleven hundred

1450
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 7: and thirty nine yards. I think through ten games last

1451
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 7: year had eleven hundred and thirty seven yards. So Jonathan

1452
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 7: Taylor is ahead of Saque's pace last year.

1453
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 2: And he's got to be way ahead of him in touchdowns,

1454
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 2: Like what's he on pace for?

1455
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 7: He's right now on pace to break the record touchdown wise,

1456
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 7: I'm not sure. I think he has like fifteen touchdowns

1457
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 7: this year sixteen, So he's not on.

1458
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, we start having that conversation.

1459
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 3: He's he's what is he in the fandowadds thirds he

1460
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 3: moved up from twelve to third after this past weekend.

1461
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is in the MVP race. It's gonna be

1462
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 1: harder for the run back to keep it up.

1463
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 3: Then it is a quarterback the last quarter.

1464
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 2: No kids in the morning, man, kids in the morning,

1465
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 2: the noon. I'm like watching them all.

1466
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 7: Well, if he if Jonathan Taylor runs for like nineteen

1467
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 7: hundred yards and like twenty six touchdowns and account has

1468
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 7: like four or five more receiving touchdowns, so accunts for

1469
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 7: almost thirty touchdowns. Do you think that's MVP worthy?

1470
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I do.

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01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 2: Would love to see two thousand.

1472
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 1: I love you get But again, well, what's the what's

1473
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:28,639
Speaker 1: the touchdown record for running backs?

1474
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:29,639
Speaker 2: Twenty six?

1475
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 7: I thought it was twenty seven, twenty eight.

1476
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,639
Speaker 2: Davian Thomason in two thousand and six had twenty six

1477
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 2: or twenty eight and he won MVP. I think it's

1478
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:42,720
Speaker 2: the last running back to win it.

1479
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 1: It it truly, it all depends with Drake May and Stafford.

1480
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 1: Like Stafford is blowing it up right now.

1481
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 7: Drake already has more touchdown Stafford has more touchdowns this

1482
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 7: year already than he did all of last year.

1483
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. What what's he thrown for in the last three games?

1484
01:08:57,080 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 1: Thirteen stupid? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, he's been having fantasy

1485
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 1: you should be playing Yeah yeah yeah. And then again,

1486
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 1: Drake May. It's like if the Patriots in the year

1487
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 1: and they're the one seed in the AFC and Drake

1488
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 1: May continues to play the way he's been playing, with

1489
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 1: the stat line he has, it's gonna be very hard

1490
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 1: to not give it to Drake May.

1491
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. That's the problem is like Jonathan Taylor has to

1492
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:23,560
Speaker 2: do like those types of numbers you're talking about, like

1493
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:27,719
Speaker 2: two thousand and thirty total touchdowns. Yeah, on a show,

1494
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 2: but he continues to put on a show man continuing awesome,

1495
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 2: like came down to the wire overtime.

1496
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 1: Right.

1497
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 7: Falcons are the most bipolar team.

1498
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 2: In the bipolar man. They Yeah, they are bro they Falcons.

1499
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:42,679
Speaker 2: If you were like a betman, you want to stay

1500
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 2: away from the Falcons. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're on the

1501
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 2: no bet list.

1502
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:48,879
Speaker 3: Away from Miami.

1503
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:51,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think they're either.

1504
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 3: Getting blown out or blowing you out.

1505
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:56,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you want to stay away from Miami as well.

1506
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 1: I'd put them on the note.

1507
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 7: I feel like even Falcons players like bees On, he's

1508
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 7: on the no bet list as well.

1509
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 2: What's yeah, what's going on? Dude? I have him and

1510
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 2: like Algier whatever, dude, who cares? I shouldn't know his name.

1511
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 2: Bijon should be starting.

1512
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 7: He should be playing every single every snap like he was.

1513
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:15,919
Speaker 6: Two touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: Middle of October, We're sitting on ESPN and Darren Lofsky

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Speaker 2: goes by middle of November, BJ Robbins won't be in

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Speaker 2: the m v P conversation since then. He's on downhill.

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Speaker 1: And here's our here's our last tier talk here from

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Speaker 1: Jonah conson Jonah K six two on x hashtag teer talk.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Cleveland Browns fans are the most tortured

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Speaker 1: in franchise history and what would you do to get

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Speaker 1: them to a championship level team? I I don't know

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Speaker 1: that last part of the answer. I would say, are

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Speaker 1: you the most tortured fans? Like there's some there's some

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Speaker 1: brutal fan bases out there. Machine being with the.

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Speaker 2: Jets, dude. Last week I was doing the Gillette thing

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Speaker 2: and I went and did a like local Jets podcast,

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Speaker 2: and the guy just you could tell there was so

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Speaker 2: much torture behind those eyes, but he was smiling the

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Speaker 2: entire time like he he's like in twenty years when

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Speaker 2: we're good, Like I'm gonna be sitting here like I

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Speaker 2: like people are born into it, which I'm sure they are.

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Speaker 2: The Cleveland I would give the edge of the Jets,

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Speaker 2: though Baker Market every year is their year. There's always

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Speaker 2: some sort of glimmer of hope Like this year, it's

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Speaker 2: they've traded away everything, So like twenty twenty six is

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Speaker 2: going to be your year and it's not.

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Speaker 6: What about?

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Speaker 1: Uh, I could say I could give the edge to

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Speaker 1: Cleveland just because you just because you also live in Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: I mean it takes a real sicko Cleveland or Jersey

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Speaker 1: to be a diehard Cleveland fan, like a real Cigo. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: But like yeah, I mean you think about those that

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Speaker 7: the quarterbacks that they have gone through. They've gone through

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Speaker 7: like thirty quarterbacks and still and.

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Speaker 2: You have Baker Mayfield. Bro, you can just stay with

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Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield and the way to get a championship. Move

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Speaker 2: the team fresh. Start first at Eyes, you know, Bahama

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Speaker 2: team something, do something different, you know, Key West, San Diego,

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Speaker 2: the San Diego be so sick.

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Speaker 1: The San Diego Browns. Yeah, doesn't feel right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, feel right? I mean you don't have to keep

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Speaker 2: the load of the Browns.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for real, all right, boys will feel good.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out where they're gonna go.

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Speaker 1: Utah, send them up to Alaska, give Alaska one of them.

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Speaker 3: Put them overseas. You know they're talking about expanding overseas.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, move them overseas.

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Speaker 2: Episode, Electric Weekend of football Electric Electric Weekend. We'll start

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Speaker 2: with Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Let's do the other one of the way, and just

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Speaker 1: to let and just to let the audience know, the

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Speaker 1: sticks are obviously getting higher toward the end of the

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Speaker 1: football season. We'll be talking all things college football. In

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Speaker 1: this episode. We're gonna be releasing the NFL. The NFL

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01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 1: won shortly after, but we have a we have a

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Speaker 1: huge one this week, a massive Saturday that we just

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Speaker 1: had a and m dominates with.

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Speaker 2: The NFL is coming first. Mitch is doing this. That

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Speaker 2: means NFL comes first, and then show.

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Speaker 1: Okay, the way we're sitting, so.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to this, you've already hit the NFL. Yes,

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Speaker 2: and you want yourself a little college portion. That's what

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Speaker 2: you're getting at right now.

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Speaker 1: Right there we go, There we go.

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Speaker 2: You've heard this also on the NFL portion, which we're

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Speaker 2: gonna shoot a little bit later.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and coach Joey McGuire, he's gonna be tuning in

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Speaker 1: the bust with the boys his big win out Lubbock,

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Speaker 1: Texas Love. We're covering everything, conference breakdown, Heisman conversations, the

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01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 1: college Football Playoff. By the way, shout out to the

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Speaker 1: a CEC for ship in the.

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Speaker 2: Bed before everybody in the bed. Who's winning that thing? Now?

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01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech's winn't it? As what's happening? And did Miami

1627
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 2: find themselves? Now they're gonna have a possibility to jump

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01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 2: into the championship.

1629
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 1: Game, so they could like this will be for any

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01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 1: ACC SI goos out there, But Georgia Tech is eight

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01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 1: to one, Virginia gets upset by Wake, Louisville gets upset

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01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 1: by Cal. So you have Virginia as a two loss team,

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01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 1: Louisville's a two loss team. It's a two loss team

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01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 1: in Miami, all two loss teams. So I think it

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01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 1: is safe to say that there will only be one

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01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 1: ACC team getting one.

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01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 2: There will only be one, I know, dude, No, I

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01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:21,560
Speaker 2: don't know.

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01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 10: If if Georgia Tech is only has one loss and

1640
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 10: they lose their conference championship game, they might not get eliminated.

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01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 10: Because they didn't eliminate SMU last year in the same scenario.

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01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 1: But that call, that's a great call. They would have

1643
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 1: to beat Obviously, with them being a one loss or

1644
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 1: losing the championship, that means they're beating Georgia. They'd have

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Speaker 1: to be george So we need Georgia to take care

1646
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 1: of business. We need Georgia to take care of business.

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01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 2: Georgia takes care of business only one Accoys. I feel,

1648
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 2: is this bust a little anti ACC right now? Yes,

1649
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:54,600
Speaker 2: very very Why I'm not pro ok right now? I'm

1650
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 2: a I'm an independent. I'm just trying to figure out

1651
01:16:57,439 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 2: I want to be on and I feel like linesman

1652
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 2: John and the Sanders, I just want to know where

1653
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 2: I stand.

1654
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 1: Here's my breakdown of why it seems like we are

1655
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 1: now anti ACC. Wasn't before all this chaos started to ensue.

1656
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 1: It's like Miami was supposed to be dominant team old

1657
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 1: college football season until they did what Miami does. So

1658
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 1: when they lost too, it's kind of like, oh shit,

1659
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 1: you got Georgia Tech. They were supposed to be dominant.

1660
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 1: Who'd they end up losing to Duke not too long ago? Duke,

1661
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 1: Who's they beat?

1662
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:25,759
Speaker 2: Duke. That's right, because they're.

1663
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 7: All Duke just lost a Yukon over the weekend and

1664
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 7: has been.

1665
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:31,760
Speaker 2: And Duke has just weirdly been his favorite. It's like

1666
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 2: Illinois and other school It's like, what are y'all doing

1667
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:35,879
Speaker 2: out here.

1668
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 1: In our brains? Because us two sitting up there were

1669
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:41,640
Speaker 1: more Big Ten then the boys in the back of

1670
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:44,679
Speaker 1: us SEC. We look at SEC, you look at Big Ten,

1671
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 1: even the Big Twelve to a certain extent, acc to me,

1672
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 1: is just not like as far as depth throughout the

1673
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 1: entire conference. Clemson was supposed to be a dog this year.

1674
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:56,760
Speaker 1: They weren't. Then Virginia coming out of nowhere. Louisville's a

1675
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 1: good football team. I will give Louisville credit to me

1676
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 1: that they've been somebody who been consistent over.

1677
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 2: The football team, playoff, football team, or just good football team.

1678
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 1: If Louisville would have been a one loss team, that's

1679
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:08,719
Speaker 1: where in my brain, that's where you start to Okay,

1680
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 1: let's see them getting the College Wall playoff. But again,

1681
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 1: acc with all these two loss teams, to me, they're

1682
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 1: not a conference that's going to have a lot of

1683
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 1: these two loss conversations that the Big Ten's going to

1684
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 1: have that, the SEC is going to have that the

1685
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 1: Big twelve can have in a couple scenarios.

1686
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 3: A lot of the ACC teams somehow don't play each

1687
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 3: other either, That's what says.

1688
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that is very odd. That is very odd

1689
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 2: how that works out that way.

1690
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 1: Okay, and the way everybody was talking about again, all

1691
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:35,600
Speaker 1: the massive implications going on inside of.

1692
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 3: The chance to get three correct one at one point

1693
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,680
Speaker 3: there was four that would be arguing, four that'd be

1694
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:44,599
Speaker 3: arguing in the ACC.

1695
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 1: Around all this chaos talk from the other big games

1696
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 1: that are going on, say, oh shit, the ACC could

1697
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 1: really blow up all of college football if they have

1698
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 1: a lot of the they have like four teams two

1699
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 1: with one loss, two with two laws. They're all kind

1700
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 1: of beating each other. How do you keep them out?

1701
01:18:58,240 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 6: Now?

1702
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 1: We know what these bad losses over the weekend, these ups.

1703
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 2: We know who they are. We know they are who

1704
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 2: we thought they were at the beginning of the year.

1705
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:07,720
Speaker 1: So not anti ACC, but just these upsets kind of

1706
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:08,519
Speaker 1: save college football.

1707
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think we're more anti ACC because we want

1708
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 7: to see like more SEC and Big ten teams get

1709
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:15,320
Speaker 7: in and like with.

1710
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 2: These teams, are you guys, are just you guys are

1711
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 2: just you're not anti ACC, you're just more Hey, we

1712
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 2: got to keep the timeline correct. And having four A

1713
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 2: SEC teams in college playoffs. I think one was invited.

1714
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:28,720
Speaker 2: They said, hey, can I bring somebody? Like you can

1715
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 2: maybe bring two, but that person wanted to bring two people.

1716
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 2: And we're like, this HiT's get a little fucked up.

1717
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 2: A couple of people bailed out. Now just maybe one

1718
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 2: person's coming to the playoffs.

1719
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 1: This bus is pro good football teams getting into college.

1720
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 1: For I like, that's it just because they like that,

1721
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 1: just because they have the ACC tie that day, and

1722
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 1: that's what's unfortunate. But it's like you're seeing these teams

1723
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 1: and it's like they're not They're not in these conversations

1724
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:49,639
Speaker 1: with everybody else.

1725
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:52,879
Speaker 2: It's so it's yeah, because what we're looking at possibly

1726
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 2: four SEC teams correct, possibly four big ten teams. Now

1727
01:19:57,200 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 2: that is totally based on Michigan be Ohio State, which

1728
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 2: last four years, but we know Ohio State's looking like

1729
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:06,759
Speaker 2: a juggernaut. Michigan still figuring it out. But yeah, Indiana

1730
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 2: they'll make it, Ohio State will make it. And I'm

1731
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 2: assuming Organ Washington shit the bed.

1732
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:16,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, bring a big ten Washington the bed usc US

1733
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 1: season there, Steal has to play Oregon. They do.

1734
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 2: They still have to play Oregon, and I think one

1735
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 2: other team that you're like, oh, that's not necessarily a

1736
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 2: win right there. So you're looking at those three and

1737
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 2: that if Michigan can beat Ohio State, you gotta let

1738
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 2: Michigan in as well. Michigan wins yeah, well yeah, they're in.

1739
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 2: Michigan controls their destiny. There's an absolute fucking juggernaut at

1740
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:39,719
Speaker 2: the end of that twelve.

1741
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 1: But hey, if we want it happened last year, If

1742
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 1: we want big ten chaos, Michigan wins out and USC

1743
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 1: wins out, but go do then you.

1744
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 2: Have USC schedule real quick. If USC is a two

1745
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:53,680
Speaker 2: loss team, they're getting they're in. They are in.

1746
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 1: It's Oregon who would be a two loss team that

1747
01:20:57,240 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 1: could not get in. Michigan could not get in. But

1748
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 1: as far as Michigan, as far as arguments to get

1749
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 1: teams in the like, that's where it's like, Okay, we

1750
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 1: would see some good chaos.

1751
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:09,640
Speaker 2: Michigan gets in, Michigan wins out, and you beat the

1752
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 2: number one team in the country, like you're in, right.

1753
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 2: I think that that's that's like a Yeah, that's done right.

1754
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 1: That argument is for sure, they're all. All I'm saying is,

1755
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 1: if you're looking at these two loss teams and only

1756
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:23,640
Speaker 1: one of them gets in, you can't not look at

1757
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:25,599
Speaker 1: the head to head with with USC and Michigan.

1758
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 2: They got Iowa. But it's it's it's in l A.

1759
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:31,760
Speaker 2: And I think that's a much different vibe than an

1760
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:32,920
Speaker 2: Iowa say.

1761
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 1: Look, it's a tough Iowa football Iowa.

1762
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 2: They travel out to the coast, though, Can those corn

1763
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 2: fed boys look at the coast for the first time

1764
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 2: not get distracted?

1765
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 1: Can us see out physical the more physical team.

1766
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:44,759
Speaker 2: They've done it before, right.

1767
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 1: So it's like this Iowa team is a tough football team.

1768
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 1: Now you can't sleep on them. Can't sleep on them.

1769
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:51,680
Speaker 1: Then you got to Oregon. That'll be the big one

1770
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 1: that'll be.

1771
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 2: In U C. L A. Which we found out this

1772
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:56,680
Speaker 2: weekend they've finally been putting their players by the Huskers.

1773
01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1774
01:21:57,200 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 1: TJ.

1775
01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 2: Latif I tried telling everybody, what is I know, I

1776
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:02,680
Speaker 2: know we usually we saved Nebraska talk for the end,

1777
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:06,719
Speaker 2: but what is the conversation surrounding Lincoln? If TJ. Latiff

1778
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:10,880
Speaker 2: has tho that game he had? Yeah, three more times?

1779
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 2: Is here a quarterback controversy in Lincoln, Nebraska? Did you

1780
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:18,800
Speaker 2: see the I saw I saw somebody tweet that. I

1781
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 2: saw you tweet that.

1782
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1783
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:22,360
Speaker 2: Did you see Ben Affleck in the corner?

1784
01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 1: Did you see?

1785
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 9: Uh?

1786
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 1: Did you see Sidney Sweeney's interview last week that was

1787
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 1: going viral Coach McGuire, but her denim coach McGuire, he

1788
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 1: can hear this. He we're talking about coach ruling the

1789
01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:33,760
Speaker 1: Huskers right now? Did you Yeah? Did you see the

1790
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 1: way Sidney Sweeney answered that pr question last week?

1791
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Until there's a problem I wanna address, I'll if.

1792
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 1: I feel like there's something there, you will hear me

1793
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 1: speak on it. But right now, there's nothing there. With TJ.

1794
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 1: Latiff and being the future quarterback of Nebraska, this is

1795
01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:50,679
Speaker 1: one football. He's a freshman, right, and he's a baller.

1796
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:53,640
Speaker 1: But again, this is this is this is not a

1797
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 1: big enough sample size. If you're gonna get a sample

1798
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 1: size of TJ. Latif, and this would actually be a conversation,

1799
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 1: you need three or four games of ball before you

1800
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 1: play like a good defense, because after three or four

1801
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:06,800
Speaker 1: games you now have tendencies to where it's like, all right,

1802
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 1: they called the game a certain way out there against

1803
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 1: UCLA four TG latite to be successful and he bowled

1804
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 1: out and UCLA.

1805
01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:14,040
Speaker 2: Didn't know what you guys are gonna do? Right, I

1806
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 2: understand that. Yeah, what the original question was is if TJ.

1807
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 2: Latif plays like that for the next three four games.

1808
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:22,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, if that becomes an issue, that's when Will Compton

1809
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 1: will speak on it.

1810
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 2: Right now, that's what we'll have the conversation. Let's have

1811
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 2: the conversation. But coach Rewire, let's get.

1812
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 1: Left talking about the Huskers.

1813
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:34,599
Speaker 2: He got a little nervous, got a little nervous.

1814
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 1: He's like I watched Busts with the boys. You're gonna

1815
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 1: have to give Will about ten to fifteen minutes with

1816
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:38,719
Speaker 1: the Huskers.

1817
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 2: Here's what I love. Coach, Hey, please, just let's give

1818
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 2: a coach a right of applause real quick for being

1819
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:48,400
Speaker 2: in here. Big win, big win and tahos uh. We

1820
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 2: have a lot of coaches on that after big games

1821
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 2: they get wins and they do a zoom call with

1822
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 2: us and every coach like Dan lenn he's got the

1823
01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 2: big oh in the back with some wings going off.

1824
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 2: We had who's the coach for Notre Dame who's the

1825
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 2: coach for Freeman? Freeman, He's got the nice wood. I

1826
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 2: love the simplicity of your desk right now. Looks like

1827
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:10,800
Speaker 2: you're sitting at a cubicle. You're keeping the main thing,

1828
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:13,680
Speaker 2: the main thing. Well, everybody is like, this team is

1829
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:15,600
Speaker 2: spending all the money in the world. How does it

1830
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 2: feel to have college game day in Lubbock, Texas and

1831
01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:19,599
Speaker 2: be able to put on a performance that you guys

1832
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 2: did against BYU.

1833
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 4: It was incredible. I wish I would have got to

1834
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:27,759
Speaker 4: experience it starting Sunday because they started camping out on Sunday.

1835
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 4: There was a there was a party Tuesday night, Wednesday night,

1836
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:36,479
Speaker 4: Thursday night that I've never seen anything like it. I

1837
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:37,639
Speaker 4: wanted to be a college kid.

1838
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 5: You.

1839
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 4: I mean, we got barber's out there, we had two

1840
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:44,879
Speaker 4: DJ's out there, we had a couple of people doing nails.

1841
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 4: Thursday night went all that long, I mean in the

1842
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 4: entire night, So it was pretty incredible. And then having

1843
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:54,720
Speaker 4: game day here and it just made it even better

1844
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 4: that Friday night going into Saturday morning.

1845
01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 2: You got a seven days of parting to taking place.

1846
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:04,400
Speaker 2: You've got twenty three transfers and everyone transfer portal classes.

1847
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 2: Last year everyone's playing like absolute dogs together like they've

1848
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 2: been they have no other since birth. What's the conversation

1849
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 2: like with these guys when you're like, hey, listen, I

1850
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:14,760
Speaker 2: know there's some pretty girls out there right now and

1851
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 2: they're partying Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday for this game,

1852
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 2: how do you limit distractions and keep these guys focused

1853
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 2: on ball? Because we've all been in college, we've all

1854
01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 2: been out there. There's a couple of parties going on.

1855
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 2: Nothing says I want to be undisciplined like a Tuesday

1856
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:31,719
Speaker 2: night party, no doubt.

1857
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:35,759
Speaker 4: A couple of things. One, we embraced it from the standpoint,

1858
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:38,599
Speaker 4: like it literally you walked out of our front door

1859
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 4: and the tempts were right there outside of our facility.

1860
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 4: We connect our facility connects to the stadium and so

1861
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 4: it was right outside. So like Wednesday practice, we walked

1862
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 4: through it going down to the stadium to end practice.

1863
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:59,800
Speaker 4: So we embraced it. But the one thing, this is

1864
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 4: an old team. We like in our advanced scouting, there

1865
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 4: hasn't been a team yet that is taking as many

1866
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 4: snaps offensive, defensively and special teams as this team has.

1867
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 4: So this is an old team and they understand man,

1868
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 4: we talk about it all the time, you know, make

1869
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 4: it about football, like all the stuff around it. That's

1870
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:23,320
Speaker 4: the great thing about college football, the pageantry, you know,

1871
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:26,760
Speaker 4: everything that goes on to get to Saturday. But when

1872
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 4: that ball is kicked off, we got to make it

1873
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 4: about football.

1874
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 1: And they did a.

1875
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:34,640
Speaker 4: Great job of doing it, you know, and really policing themselves.

1876
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:38,679
Speaker 1: Coach, Clearly, the job is not finished. But going into

1877
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 1: the season, you know, the speculation around Texas Tech and

1878
01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:44,400
Speaker 1: all the guys that you brought in from the portal,

1879
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:47,600
Speaker 1: the talk was you guys brought in a lot of mercenaries.

1880
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 1: Is this money and everything else paying these players? Is

1881
01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:51,920
Speaker 1: it actually going to work out? And you were having

1882
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 1: conversation with Josh Payton everybody else saying that this is

1883
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 1: as close of a group as you've been around. Clearly,

1884
01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 1: the job is not finished. But now looking at the

1885
01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:01,160
Speaker 1: product that they've put on the field, how proud of you?

1886
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 1: How proud are you? And not surprised are you of

1887
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:07,759
Speaker 1: what this football team has accomp accomplished this season?

1888
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:11,160
Speaker 4: Yeah? First, I love your hat man, that's awesome.

1889
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 1: Hey, thank you. We'll get you one. We will ship

1890
01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:13,759
Speaker 1: you one today.

1891
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's cool. You know, I'm extremely proud. I'm proud

1892
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 4: of the guys that we were able to retain the

1893
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 4: guys that chose to stay with Baron and Jay Rod

1894
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 4: Jack Rodriguez and you know, Ben Roberts, Sheridan Wilson, on

1895
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 4: and on an old koy Ake and I don't want

1896
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 4: to miss anybody, but I'm proud of those guys because

1897
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:38,800
Speaker 4: they helped me so much create what it means to

1898
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 4: be a Red Raider and what are culture's all about.

1899
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:44,599
Speaker 4: And then man, we had such buy in. Well one

1900
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:46,439
Speaker 4: reason I think we had such buy in, And if

1901
01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:48,719
Speaker 4: you came into this building, you would understand this. There's

1902
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 4: not one single person, it's on my staff that doesn't

1903
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 4: believe that the most important thing we have in this

1904
01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:59,680
Speaker 4: building is the player. And they feel it every single day.

1905
01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:04,160
Speaker 4: So if you're our head, our head dietitian, your job

1906
01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:06,800
Speaker 4: is to make sure that you're the best in the

1907
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 4: country at what you do, and you make it all

1908
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 4: about the player, and it goes on and on from

1909
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 4: the trainer to the street staff. And we're like that

1910
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:16,320
Speaker 4: every single day. We don't deviate from what we do,

1911
01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 4: so they have a constant reminder that we care about

1912
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 4: him at a very high level, and they play like it.

1913
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 4: And I'm proud because in this world right now, it's

1914
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:30,679
Speaker 4: all about you know, what have you done for me lately?

1915
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:33,640
Speaker 4: It's all about me, me, me, and one thing that

1916
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:35,640
Speaker 4: you've got to do. In a team sport, it's got

1917
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:37,479
Speaker 4: to be about the team. It's got to be about

1918
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:43,200
Speaker 4: you know, the greater, greater than yourself. And these guys

1919
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 4: have really bought into that.

1920
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 1: Coach you you brought up one name, Jacob Rodriguez, you

1921
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 1: guys being in the Big twelve, him being a defensive guy.

1922
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 1: You have things going against you from a national media

1923
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 1: layscape or national recognition. Why should a guy like Jacob

1924
01:28:56,960 --> 01:29:00,080
Speaker 1: Rodriguez being the Heisman conversation? And can you talk but

1925
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 1: the impact he has as a defensive player on the field.

1926
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:06,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, And I don't want to. I'm not

1927
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 4: trying to disrespect anybody. I mean, I just go back

1928
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 4: and I mean, I'm a football gee, you know, I

1929
01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 4: mean I'm about to when we get off here, I'm

1930
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 4: literally gonna pull up the brackets of the Texas High

1931
01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:22,720
Speaker 4: School Coaches Association brackets to look through every level of

1932
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:25,840
Speaker 4: who's playing who, And you know, I just go back,

1933
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:28,599
Speaker 4: and I think about different people, like whenever Travis won

1934
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 4: it last year, how could you not give it to Travis.

1935
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 4: He's the most dominant when you look around college right now,

1936
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:38,880
Speaker 4: Like I think the Indiana quarterbacks playing, I think that

1937
01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 4: the Ohio State quarterbacks playing at a high level for

1938
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 4: their positions. I think Jacob rov is, Like, I know

1939
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 4: there's linebackers out there, like Ohio State's got a linebacker

1940
01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 4: that's playing at a really high level. I just know

1941
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 4: what my guy does down after down after down, and

1942
01:29:56,640 --> 01:30:01,599
Speaker 4: there's some freaky, freaky stats. It haven't been done by

1943
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:06,800
Speaker 4: defensive players. Like the dudes punched out seven footballs this year.

1944
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:10,400
Speaker 4: He had another interception that he tipped it to his cell,

1945
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 4: and then he recovered a fumble, I mean, and then

1946
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:14,439
Speaker 4: he had fourteen tackles.

1947
01:30:14,479 --> 01:30:14,680
Speaker 6: I mean.

1948
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:20,840
Speaker 4: The dude just's he's an absolute machine and he's everything

1949
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 4: right about college football. The dude slept on his floor

1950
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 4: as a walk on during the spring semester until I

1951
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:32,680
Speaker 4: had a scholarship whenever he transferred from Virginia Virginia. So

1952
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:36,160
Speaker 4: it's it's just like there's so many things. Plus his

1953
01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:40,479
Speaker 4: wife's a badass. He's an army of black Hawks, black

1954
01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:41,880
Speaker 4: Hawks helicopter pilots.

1955
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:47,200
Speaker 1: So shit, ste Dude, that is incredible. Yeah, we need

1956
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:47,840
Speaker 1: there needs to be.

1957
01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 2: Like some sort of like ad campaign that takes place

1958
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 2: for this individual.

1959
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:54,000
Speaker 1: So there there is one there. Because the last time

1960
01:30:54,080 --> 01:30:57,000
Speaker 1: a linebacker has been in the Heisman conversation was Mantitao.

1961
01:30:57,479 --> 01:31:00,680
Speaker 1: Man Titayo had about one and thirteen ten. Right now,

1962
01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:04,360
Speaker 1: Jacob Rodriguez is on pace to beat that. He's averaging

1963
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:07,240
Speaker 1: like eight and a half nine a game. Main Titeo

1964
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:11,000
Speaker 1: had seven takeaways during his senior season. Coach has mentioned it.

1965
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:14,680
Speaker 1: He's punched out seven balls, he's forced seven fumbles, and

1966
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:17,679
Speaker 1: he has ten takeaways right now on the season alone.

1967
01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:21,360
Speaker 1: So I do think that conversation will start really coming alive.

1968
01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:24,080
Speaker 1: But dude, that is incredible. The whole sleeping on the floor,

1969
01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 1: that is awesome.

1970
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:28,920
Speaker 2: You brought up having conversations with players when you're bringing

1971
01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:32,639
Speaker 2: a bunch of these guys in and one Newsworthy type

1972
01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:34,040
Speaker 2: thing was you had a bunch of guys that played

1973
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:35,880
Speaker 2: for you last year on the defensive line, and then

1974
01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:39,240
Speaker 2: you brought in a bunch of individuals as well. I

1975
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:41,800
Speaker 2: want to know how that conversation takes place with these

1976
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 2: guys that play a lot of snaps for you, they're

1977
01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:45,439
Speaker 2: expecting to take the next step, they want to be

1978
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:47,680
Speaker 2: a starter. They have dreams and aspirations of being in

1979
01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:49,840
Speaker 2: the NFL, and you essentially have to sit there and

1980
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:51,960
Speaker 2: be like, hey, we're bringing in these guys, You're going

1981
01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:54,720
Speaker 2: to be more of a rotational player. Like, talk to

1982
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:57,240
Speaker 2: me about those players their ego and how they're able

1983
01:31:57,280 --> 01:31:59,040
Speaker 2: to put it to the side and understand that the

1984
01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:02,519
Speaker 2: team's most important, but also like they're chasing their dreams.

1985
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:05,000
Speaker 2: Is a very unique situation that you have in a

1986
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:07,719
Speaker 2: world that everybody just wants to get the most money

1987
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:09,240
Speaker 2: and the most playing time. We had a bunch of

1988
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:11,320
Speaker 2: cake eaters in college football right now it seems like

1989
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:13,000
Speaker 2: Texas Tech does not have any of those.

1990
01:32:16,160 --> 01:32:16,360
Speaker 3: One.

1991
01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:19,280
Speaker 4: You know, it's probably easier on the defensive side of

1992
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:20,880
Speaker 4: the ball than on the office side of the ball,

1993
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:23,439
Speaker 4: because you know, you do rotate a lot of guys,

1994
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:26,559
Speaker 4: so you're gonna have snaps kind of be broken up.

1995
01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:29,599
Speaker 4: But you know, I think one thing I can tell

1996
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:32,320
Speaker 4: you is we brought in dudes like and so I

1997
01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 4: think if you're real, if you really understand football and

1998
01:32:36,439 --> 01:32:38,920
Speaker 4: you bring in a Romeo Height and you're sitting there

1999
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:41,479
Speaker 4: trying to compare yourself to Romelo Height. You find out

2000
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:44,080
Speaker 4: real quiet quick that you can't compare yourself to that dude.

2001
01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:46,920
Speaker 4: When you bring in a David Bailey and you're like, man,

2002
01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:48,960
Speaker 4: I should be playing over this guy. And then you

2003
01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 4: see David Bailey play it, You're like, you have to

2004
01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:56,280
Speaker 4: like be so delusional that you're not supposed to be

2005
01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:58,800
Speaker 4: behind him. And so I think that helps, Like you

2006
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:01,720
Speaker 4: gotta be real careful. I remember saving saying it last week.

2007
01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:04,040
Speaker 4: Got to be in the right guys, who got to

2008
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:06,320
Speaker 4: pay the right guys, and and so I think that's

2009
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:10,599
Speaker 4: really important. But I do believe talking to these guys

2010
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:13,840
Speaker 4: too about look, he is only gonna make you a

2011
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:16,400
Speaker 4: better football player, because one, you're gonna try to play

2012
01:33:16,479 --> 01:33:20,920
Speaker 4: to his level. In two, in the defensive line, you're

2013
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:25,360
Speaker 4: not supposed to be playing seventy and eighty snaps. You

2014
01:33:25,439 --> 01:33:28,599
Speaker 4: know you're not supposed to be, And so you get

2015
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:31,080
Speaker 4: some of that taken off your body and you're gonna

2016
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:34,080
Speaker 4: get to play at a higher level. So they understand that.

2017
01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:36,360
Speaker 4: But that was one thing that was important. It's like

2018
01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:38,200
Speaker 4: I was talking to my GM and I was like, man,

2019
01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:41,240
Speaker 4: when we bring guys in, if they're comparable our guy,

2020
01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:44,120
Speaker 4: then why are we doing it. We got to bring

2021
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:47,840
Speaker 4: in dudes that are definitely gonna make us better and

2022
01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 4: our players can see that.

2023
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:53,920
Speaker 1: Coach, I know, I listened to your interview with Josh Payton.

2024
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:56,120
Speaker 1: You brought up a couple couple of mentors, a couple

2025
01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 1: guys along the way, and it was a coach woods

2026
01:33:58,120 --> 01:34:00,360
Speaker 1: and coach rule. And so I reached out the coach

2027
01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:02,320
Speaker 1: rule and asked him and told him that I'll be

2028
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:04,479
Speaker 1: having you on this morning, and he wanted me to

2029
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:07,200
Speaker 1: bring up your first interview with him at I hop

2030
01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:08,840
Speaker 1: How was that breakfast?

2031
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:11,200
Speaker 6: Well, I've been We went.

2032
01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:16,600
Speaker 4: To about three pots of coffee. You know. It was

2033
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:18,519
Speaker 4: one of those deals I'll never forget. It was a

2034
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:21,960
Speaker 4: Sunday morning, and we had to do it on Sunday

2035
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:25,639
Speaker 4: because he works for me, David Martin. He was playing

2036
01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:29,479
Speaker 4: for a state championship in Oklahoma Friday night, and we

2037
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:33,960
Speaker 4: had this deal to where whoever lost had to cross

2038
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:36,040
Speaker 4: the Red River and go watch the other guy play.

2039
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:38,839
Speaker 4: So I was supposed to interview with Coach Roll on Friday,

2040
01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:42,680
Speaker 4: and I called him. I said, Coach I'll do I'll

2041
01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:45,400
Speaker 4: come back Saturday morning. I'll do whatever I said, But

2042
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:48,160
Speaker 4: I can't watch my buddy not play for the state championship.

2043
01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 4: And so he won his first state championship. Came back

2044
01:34:52,280 --> 01:34:55,240
Speaker 4: to Texas and met with coach in Hillsborough and I

2045
01:34:55,400 --> 01:34:58,320
Speaker 4: hop and my wife, whenever I was leaving, she goes,

2046
01:34:58,640 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 4: you know you're never gonna leave.

2047
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:02,519
Speaker 1: Why are you.

2048
01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:04,320
Speaker 4: Going to talk to this guy? And I said, man,

2049
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:06,599
Speaker 4: there's just something about him and I got to find

2050
01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:09,519
Speaker 4: out what it is. And whenever I walked out at

2051
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:11,200
Speaker 4: the meeting here, I called Debbie and I said, hey,

2052
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:13,559
Speaker 4: if he offers us a job of going to favor

2053
01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:16,400
Speaker 4: and the thing that he talked about is how much

2054
01:35:16,479 --> 01:35:19,439
Speaker 4: he pour and he does and everything he said he

2055
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:22,479
Speaker 4: does he pours into players. I believe in that. I

2056
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:26,120
Speaker 4: believe in making these guys men that they're supposed to become, and.

2057
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:27,560
Speaker 1: He does that.

2058
01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:31,560
Speaker 4: He is a tough guy. His teams are physical. I

2059
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:32,200
Speaker 4: believe in that.

2060
01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:34,400
Speaker 1: And so we just hit it off.

2061
01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:36,439
Speaker 4: And I tell everybody this, if I hadn't have been

2062
01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:38,519
Speaker 4: hired by Matt Rule, because I was probably going to

2063
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:41,080
Speaker 4: go to college, I had the opportunity, but that was

2064
01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:44,040
Speaker 4: my son's senior year and everything was going to change.

2065
01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:47,479
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be at Texas Tech without Matt Role, and

2066
01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:50,280
Speaker 4: the reason is because he has no ego when it

2067
01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:53,719
Speaker 4: comes to pour an end of coaches. And I walked

2068
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:55,920
Speaker 4: by his office one day day and he said get

2069
01:35:55,960 --> 01:35:58,800
Speaker 4: in here. This is like three to four weeks into

2070
01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 4: the job, and he goes, hey, man, you're supposed to

2071
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:03,400
Speaker 4: be a head coach. I've been a head coach fourteen years.

2072
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:04,960
Speaker 4: And I was like, you know, I like to think

2073
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:07,280
Speaker 4: that I should be. He goes, no, no, no, you're

2074
01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:09,599
Speaker 4: supposed to be a head coach at this level. Let

2075
01:36:09,720 --> 01:36:12,439
Speaker 4: me show you what you don't know. And it was

2076
01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:17,040
Speaker 4: roster management. It was about recruiting. It was about graduating

2077
01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:21,320
Speaker 4: players early, letting them start their masters when they still

2078
01:36:21,360 --> 01:36:23,719
Speaker 4: had two years left in the program. Like just stuff

2079
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:25,840
Speaker 4: like that that you know as a high school coach

2080
01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:26,680
Speaker 4: I didn't have to deal with.

2081
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:29,800
Speaker 1: That is awesome. That is awesome. He also said, you

2082
01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:32,880
Speaker 1: loved wearing a jacket in mornings in case they made

2083
01:36:32,920 --> 01:36:33,639
Speaker 1: the coaches run.

2084
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:39,599
Speaker 4: Well, let me tell you it was. It was pretty

2085
01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:43,360
Speaker 4: cold one morning and I should have known by his reaction.

2086
01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:45,160
Speaker 6: So i' mean we're going to.

2087
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:49,240
Speaker 4: The indoor to do our fourth quarter. And it's in February,

2088
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:52,840
Speaker 4: and I've got shorts on, and I said, how's it going, coach,

2089
01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:56,000
Speaker 4: And he goes, not good. He was pissed off about

2090
01:36:56,040 --> 01:36:58,639
Speaker 4: something and I should have turned around and got some clothes.

2091
01:36:58,720 --> 01:37:01,479
Speaker 4: Well I didn't, and instead of doing the fourth quarter

2092
01:37:01,560 --> 01:37:03,920
Speaker 4: and in or we did the fourth quarter and in

2093
01:37:04,040 --> 01:37:07,040
Speaker 4: the frost and helped the football field and I froze

2094
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:11,120
Speaker 4: my tailloff and being on it didn't matter what the

2095
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:14,960
Speaker 4: weather was like. I dressed warm for those early mornings

2096
01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:16,680
Speaker 4: because I didn't know what kind of mood it was

2097
01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:19,479
Speaker 4: going to be in. And I make sure my taillof

2098
01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:20,640
Speaker 4: I love that.

2099
01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:24,200
Speaker 2: While you were telling those amazing stories, I was handed

2100
01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:26,519
Speaker 2: a note by one of our producers. Texas Tech has

2101
01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:29,639
Speaker 2: never won a Big twelve championship. And I don't say

2102
01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 2: that to rub it in. I said, because you're a

2103
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:32,960
Speaker 2: staring down the barrel of an opportunity here to bring

2104
01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:36,240
Speaker 2: home the first Big Big twelve championship to Texas Tech.

2105
01:37:36,600 --> 01:37:39,519
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes is at the game this past weekend. He's

2106
01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:41,280
Speaker 2: talking about, you know, when I was here, we didn't

2107
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:43,240
Speaker 2: really have this kind of environment. It's so amazing to

2108
01:37:43,240 --> 01:37:46,800
Speaker 2: see love of Texas like acting like this crazy. They're

2109
01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:50,840
Speaker 2: they're they're camping out seven five, six days before. Now

2110
01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:52,800
Speaker 2: you have an opportunity to do something that Texas Tech

2111
01:37:52,840 --> 01:37:55,799
Speaker 2: has never done. You have a massive game with college

2112
01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:58,760
Speaker 2: game be there. Now, you got UCF coming in. How

2113
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:01,240
Speaker 2: do you keep the train and keep these guys all

2114
01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:04,160
Speaker 2: focused knowing that you're have the opportunity to do something

2115
01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:08,360
Speaker 2: that's never been done before at that College'll.

2116
01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:09,960
Speaker 4: Go back to the coach rule, you know, his big

2117
01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:11,040
Speaker 4: motto is what's next?

2118
01:38:11,160 --> 01:38:11,320
Speaker 1: You know.

2119
01:38:11,439 --> 01:38:14,360
Speaker 4: And I walked into the locker room. I was one

2120
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:15,920
Speaker 4: of the first guys in the locker room after the

2121
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:18,519
Speaker 4: game and Jake Brodriguez I think it was the first

2122
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:20,160
Speaker 4: player in the game. And I came over and gave

2123
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:22,400
Speaker 4: him a hug and said how proud I was of him,

2124
01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:23,880
Speaker 4: and he goes, Coach, I just want to remind you

2125
01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:26,800
Speaker 4: this wasn't our goal and we got more in front

2126
01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:29,639
Speaker 4: of us. He said, let's be happy, but what's next?

2127
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:33,000
Speaker 4: And I was like, man, here's a player saying that.

2128
01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:34,920
Speaker 4: He said it to the guys in the weight room

2129
01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:38,320
Speaker 4: yesterday during our lyft before our team meeting. You know,

2130
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:40,800
Speaker 4: we understood what a year this was. You know how

2131
01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:42,679
Speaker 4: big of a year this was going to be because

2132
01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:46,920
Speaker 4: we can eliminate so many excuses and things that people

2133
01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:50,000
Speaker 4: use against us in recruiting. You know, we we have

2134
01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:53,280
Speaker 4: the best facility in the country. I mean, it's absolutely incredible,

2135
01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:57,439
Speaker 4: and so whenever people say we got better facilities now

2136
01:38:57,760 --> 01:39:00,280
Speaker 4: they don't. We share at the highest level when it

2137
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:02,519
Speaker 4: comes to the revenue sharing. So it's not the money.

2138
01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:04,960
Speaker 4: You know. The thing that people can use against us

2139
01:39:05,080 --> 01:39:07,559
Speaker 4: is we've never won the Big twelve. So that's that's

2140
01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:10,680
Speaker 4: the next box we're trying to check off. So now

2141
01:39:10,760 --> 01:39:13,200
Speaker 4: we have no excuse to you know, compete for it.

2142
01:39:13,280 --> 01:39:14,160
Speaker 4: You're in and year out.

2143
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:17,240
Speaker 1: Coach Man. We're rooting for you the rest of the way, bro,

2144
01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:19,040
Speaker 1: Thank you for taking time out of your morning to

2145
01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:21,680
Speaker 1: join busting with the boys. Good luck. The rest of

2146
01:39:21,720 --> 01:39:23,560
Speaker 1: the way, we will be rooting for you, and we

2147
01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:26,160
Speaker 1: will be you know, as a linebacker, I'll be helping

2148
01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:29,160
Speaker 1: try and carry the torch to get Jacob Rodriguez in

2149
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:32,800
Speaker 1: more of this national conversation. But thank you, thank you man.

2150
01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:33,040
Speaker 4: Man.

2151
01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:34,400
Speaker 6: I'm a big fan of you guys.

2152
01:39:34,439 --> 01:39:36,320
Speaker 4: I freaking love it. I love what you do for

2153
01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:39,400
Speaker 4: college football and really appreciate having me on.

2154
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Speaker 1: Man, we gotta get out there. We gotta get out there.

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01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:45,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, gotta go out there. If this is an invite, I'm.

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01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:46,760
Speaker 4: Telling you I'll take care of you. Had the best

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01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:47,720
Speaker 4: steak you've ever had.

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01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:51,840
Speaker 1: Man, we gotta go. We gotta go to an I Hop.

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01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:55,040
Speaker 2: We gotta have breakfast at I Hop, three pots of coffee,

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01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:56,360
Speaker 2: and then we'll finish it off with the best think

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01:39:56,400 --> 01:39:58,920
Speaker 2: we've ever had. We're gonna get your address. We're gonna

2162
01:39:58,920 --> 01:40:00,960
Speaker 2: send you a bunch of dad. Which girl are you?

2163
01:40:01,479 --> 01:40:03,160
Speaker 2: You're obviously a father. How many kids do you have.

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01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:06,880
Speaker 4: I've got two kids. My daughter is a Red Raider,

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01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:10,320
Speaker 4: she's a fashion designer in Manhattan, New York. And my

2166
01:40:10,520 --> 01:40:14,599
Speaker 4: son actually coached for coach Rule at Carolina Panthers at

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01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:16,880
Speaker 4: Nebraska and now he's my running back coach.

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Speaker 2: So keep it in the house, man, I love him.

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01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:22,040
Speaker 2: That's amazing. We'll get you some dad merch. We're looking

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Speaker 2: forward to seeing you during spring balls. Give coach went

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01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:26,800
Speaker 2: one more round of a pause. Thank you, coach. Think

2172
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:32,360
Speaker 2: you've been taking the time man, Yes, sir, Indiana Penn

2173
01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:34,920
Speaker 2: State people would keep forgetting that Penn State's got a

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Speaker 2: top twenty five roster, and they showed. They showed Indiana

2175
01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:40,400
Speaker 2: that right to the end, man, what a throw and catch?

2176
01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:42,160
Speaker 2: Who is the wide receiver they caught that ball?

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Speaker 1: Cooper, Dude, Cooper, unbelievable. And that Fernando Mendoza kid, he

2178
01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:52,400
Speaker 1: is just do that final drive unreal awesome to see

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01:40:52,439 --> 01:40:54,759
Speaker 1: the way he was spinning the catches that these receivers

2180
01:40:54,800 --> 01:40:56,760
Speaker 1: are making, like only in spots that they could catch

2181
01:40:57,080 --> 01:41:00,439
Speaker 1: him starting off and getting sacked to start the drive

2182
01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 1: was kind of like, oh shit, Like Penn State might

2183
01:41:02,479 --> 01:41:05,519
Speaker 1: upset this Indiana team. Everybody's gonna be waiting to say

2184
01:41:05,680 --> 01:41:07,760
Speaker 1: overrated all of this stuff you kind of see because

2185
01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:08,000
Speaker 1: it's the.

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01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:10,400
Speaker 2: Worst team for it to happen to. Yeah, yeah, if

2187
01:41:10,439 --> 01:41:13,400
Speaker 2: Ohio State got upset by by Penn State, would be

2188
01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:15,639
Speaker 2: the whole conversation will be around, Well, that's a good roster.

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01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:17,800
Speaker 2: Those guys are all you know, James Franklin's gone blah

2190
01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:20,080
Speaker 2: blah blah. Indiana loses, It's like they are who we

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01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:23,280
Speaker 2: thought they were. Yeah, yeah, people are begging Indiana to suck.

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01:41:24,400 --> 01:41:27,920
Speaker 2: You think, so what Gi Sa Guigo's They still might

2193
01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:28,760
Speaker 2: be who we thought they.

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Speaker 1: Were, they could be, like, that's gonna be the first

2195
01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:32,720
Speaker 1: thing if they drop a game, if they you know,

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01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:34,720
Speaker 1: college will playoff. Let's say their ranked in the top four,

2197
01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:36,840
Speaker 1: because that's where they're trending right now. We'll actually get

2198
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:39,479
Speaker 1: to watch them against Ohio State most likely in the

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01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:43,240
Speaker 1: Big Ten Championship, so we will get to see. But

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01:41:43,360 --> 01:41:46,200
Speaker 1: I just think, like for Fernando Mendoza, the whole Heisman

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01:41:46,360 --> 01:41:49,720
Speaker 1: campaign and everything else, like there are moments that guys

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01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:51,040
Speaker 1: are gonna have to have, and I feel like he

2203
01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:53,599
Speaker 1: got to have a Heisman moment on that final drive,

2204
01:41:53,720 --> 01:41:56,080
Speaker 1: like this dude was spinning the rock. But they very

2205
01:41:56,120 --> 01:41:58,040
Speaker 1: well could be, like they could get their ass beat

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01:41:58,080 --> 01:41:59,960
Speaker 1: like they did last year in the college wool will playoff.

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01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:02,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got to walk through for the rest of

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01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:05,920
Speaker 2: their season. They Wisconsin and Purdue. Matt Matt put it

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01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:11,559
Speaker 2: on what's that Wisconsin? That's a good that's a good

2210
01:42:11,680 --> 01:42:14,559
Speaker 2: Washington football team. What do you argue the best quarterback,

2211
01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:17,280
Speaker 2: running back, receiver trio and all the Big Ten?

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01:42:17,439 --> 01:42:18,160
Speaker 1: What do you got jp?

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01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:21,000
Speaker 9: Matt put it on our radar this morning. One of

2214
01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:23,880
Speaker 9: the Indiana receivers is from father Ian. He had seven

2215
01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:26,200
Speaker 9: catches yesterday for like one hundred and thirty yards.

2216
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:29,320
Speaker 2: Is this the same kid who was like his career

2217
01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:31,559
Speaker 2: he had seven catches and just in this game alone,

2218
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:34,840
Speaker 2: he doubled his career catches. Probably because I saw a

2219
01:42:34,920 --> 01:42:36,720
Speaker 2: stat line. I don't remember who exactly it was, but

2220
01:42:36,800 --> 01:42:38,439
Speaker 2: it was like seven catches, one hundred and thirty something.

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01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:41,320
Speaker 1: Nashville guys dominating college football.

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Speaker 2: Dude, boys man love to see it.

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01:42:44,080 --> 01:42:47,760
Speaker 1: What what are your guys' thoughts on the Fernando Mendoza

2224
01:42:47,960 --> 01:42:51,599
Speaker 1: Julian saying Heisman race Heisman conversation. I'm fired up about

2225
01:42:51,640 --> 01:42:55,360
Speaker 1: learning more about Jacob Rodriguez. You see names getting thrown around,

2226
01:42:55,400 --> 01:43:00,360
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Smith, Jeremiah love, Ty Simpson in the conversation, Emmitt

2227
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:03,200
Speaker 1: Johnson getting in the conversation.

2228
01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:06,240
Speaker 2: Hneyards rushing, hun yards receiving in a game this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to say he's the first guy in

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01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:15,280
Speaker 1: the history for Nebraska to really I know somebody was

2231
01:43:15,439 --> 01:43:16,960
Speaker 1: kind of trying to fact check it, like, I don't

2232
01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:24,200
Speaker 1: know if that's confirmed. That's what was. You're even Rex

2233
01:43:24,240 --> 01:43:27,080
Speaker 1: didn't receive, He didn't play receiver as much as a mirror.

2234
01:43:27,160 --> 01:43:32,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, bro, Emma Johnson's flat out bawling, like the

2235
01:43:32,320 --> 01:43:35,600
Speaker 1: dude should be absolutely an All American for him to

2236
01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:37,200
Speaker 1: have what does he have? He leads the country. I

2237
01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:39,200
Speaker 1: believe in all purpose he's one or two. He's one

2238
01:43:39,280 --> 01:43:42,200
Speaker 1: or two. He's second in rushing, second in rushing. Fourteen

2239
01:43:42,320 --> 01:43:45,439
Speaker 1: touchdowns he said, two twenty and three touchdowns this past

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Speaker 1: game against UCLA. He's a baller bro he's balling. But

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01:43:49,080 --> 01:43:50,920
Speaker 1: to bring it back, like, what are your guys thoughts

2242
01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:52,720
Speaker 1: on the conversation, I was going back and forth with

2243
01:43:52,760 --> 01:43:55,080
Speaker 1: some Ohio State fans. I'm doing my best about yo.

2244
01:43:55,200 --> 01:43:58,479
Speaker 1: Julian Saying is a stud. I believe he's a stud.

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01:43:58,680 --> 01:44:00,880
Speaker 2: The only the only game I've been able to watch

2246
01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:03,280
Speaker 2: of Ohio State that like I really would tune into

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01:44:03,479 --> 01:44:05,519
Speaker 2: was the Penn State game last week and then when

2248
01:44:05,520 --> 01:44:08,600
Speaker 2: they played Washington, And it's like, Julian Saying is a

2249
01:44:08,680 --> 01:44:11,280
Speaker 2: good football player. He throw, he gets the ball out quick,

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Speaker 2: he makes great decisions when he gets in a pinch,

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01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:15,800
Speaker 2: he uses his legs, his limited athletic ability to get

2252
01:44:15,840 --> 01:44:17,960
Speaker 2: him the first down to move the chains. They don't

2253
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:19,680
Speaker 2: have like the best run game in the in the

2254
01:44:19,840 --> 01:44:22,720
Speaker 2: entire world. But my question is, is Julian Saying that

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Speaker 2: good or does he have the two best wide receivers

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Speaker 2: in college football and for that reason he is that good.

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01:44:28,760 --> 01:44:30,559
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's some sort of combination of the two.

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01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:32,439
Speaker 2: And being a Michigan guy, I don't want to like

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01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:35,120
Speaker 2: disrespect the kid, because I do think he's balling out

2260
01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:36,759
Speaker 2: right now, but there is something to be said about,

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01:44:37,240 --> 01:44:39,680
Speaker 2: you know, Jeremiah Smith and was it Cardinell.

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01:44:39,360 --> 01:44:41,600
Speaker 7: Take Carnell tell you, I think he does definitely have

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01:44:41,680 --> 01:44:44,200
Speaker 7: freaks around him. I mean, he's it looks like he's

2264
01:44:44,240 --> 01:44:47,360
Speaker 7: the Him and Mendoz are tied at plus one sixty

2265
01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:49,519
Speaker 7: five when the FANDUL sports book at for odds, and.

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Speaker 1: The next one's Ty Simpson at plus five hundred, So

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01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:53,360
Speaker 1: right now it's a two man race.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I think Marcel Reid, with who he's like,

2269
01:44:56,520 --> 01:44:59,160
Speaker 7: the teams that he's playing, and how he's like played,

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01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:01,479
Speaker 7: I think he should be higher up. But I think

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01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:04,280
Speaker 7: like if Fernando Mendoza wins it, I think it's kind

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01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:07,240
Speaker 7: of like a boring Heisman Trophy winner because he hasn't

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01:45:07,280 --> 01:45:09,280
Speaker 7: like he doesn't really make flashy plays. He just doesn't

2274
01:45:09,280 --> 01:45:12,880
Speaker 7: necessarily make them. Those mistakes. Niniana hasn't necessarily played anybody

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01:45:12,920 --> 01:45:15,439
Speaker 7: other than Oregon, and I don't think if I remember correctly,

2276
01:45:15,479 --> 01:45:19,720
Speaker 7: he played all that well. Like neither of them have

2277
01:45:19,840 --> 01:45:21,960
Speaker 7: really had like a oh, that's like their Heisman moment,

2278
01:45:22,000 --> 01:45:25,920
Speaker 7: that's their Heisman game. Like I think Jeremiah Love he's

2279
01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:28,160
Speaker 7: a stud and I mean what he put he had

2280
01:45:28,200 --> 01:45:29,719
Speaker 7: like six touchdowns in one.

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01:45:29,720 --> 01:45:30,600
Speaker 1: Game or whatever it was.

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01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:33,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember somebody said he would be the Heisman.

2283
01:45:33,080 --> 01:45:33,920
Speaker 1: I forget who it was.

2284
01:45:34,600 --> 01:45:34,800
Speaker 2: For me.

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01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:38,000
Speaker 1: It's just like the comparable that I was diving into

2286
01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:40,920
Speaker 1: was being surrounded by freaks. People brought up Joe Burrow

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01:45:40,920 --> 01:45:42,680
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, well Joe Burrow threw for like

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01:45:42,760 --> 01:45:45,519
Speaker 1: over six thousand yards or like around six thousand yards

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01:45:45,560 --> 01:45:49,280
Speaker 1: and what sixty touchdowns. Yeah, and he goes on He's,

2290
01:45:49,520 --> 01:45:54,160
Speaker 1: you know, undefeated season, He's beaten teams Bama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia,

2291
01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:58,000
Speaker 1: like the schedule that Ohio States had. If Julian Saying

2292
01:45:58,000 --> 01:46:00,800
Speaker 1: is surrounded by these freaks because like their run game

2293
01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:03,080
Speaker 1: has been what it's been in the past at Ohio State,

2294
01:46:03,200 --> 01:46:05,880
Speaker 1: like Julian Saying, like they would be dominating teams and

2295
01:46:05,960 --> 01:46:08,639
Speaker 1: he would his stat line would be far and above

2296
01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:12,559
Speaker 1: anybody else's and since it's comparable with Fernando Mendoza, Mendoza

2297
01:46:12,680 --> 01:46:14,920
Speaker 1: having like a Heisman moment that people got to kind

2298
01:46:14,960 --> 01:46:17,639
Speaker 1: of witness on the stage against Penn State when Penn

2299
01:46:17,680 --> 01:46:20,160
Speaker 1: State was about to upset them. I just think it's like, Yo,

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01:46:20,439 --> 01:46:24,639
Speaker 1: Bernando Mendoza's has done more with lay with way less

2301
01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:26,400
Speaker 1: as he's kind of come onto the scene.

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Speaker 2: I agree with that, but also like Ohio State, you

2303
01:46:29,360 --> 01:46:31,040
Speaker 2: can tell the trust they have and Julian standing because

2304
01:46:31,280 --> 01:46:33,599
Speaker 2: they their run game is not as good, but they

2305
01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:35,479
Speaker 2: do not want to run the ball. They want to

2306
01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:38,519
Speaker 2: throw the ball. And so the kid's been putting the

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01:46:38,520 --> 01:46:40,439
Speaker 2: ball in the right spot very rarely, as there are

2308
01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:42,839
Speaker 2: a lot of like dbs drenched around these wide receivers,

2309
01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:44,680
Speaker 2: but he's still like he throws a great deep ball,

2310
01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:46,960
Speaker 2: puts it right in the bucket. I mean, these guys

2311
01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:49,200
Speaker 2: going across the field like there's no one around, but

2312
01:46:49,240 --> 01:46:51,599
Speaker 2: he's putting it right on the chest to the wide receivers. Yeah,

2313
01:46:51,800 --> 01:46:54,599
Speaker 2: there's a level of like this kid has a lot

2314
01:46:54,640 --> 01:46:57,320
Speaker 2: of talent. Obviously, I think he has. If I were

2315
01:46:57,360 --> 01:46:58,720
Speaker 2: to give it to somebody right now, it would be

2316
01:46:58,880 --> 01:47:02,280
Speaker 2: Fernando Mendoza, for the reasons you said, like he's doing

2317
01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:04,720
Speaker 2: he's got less players around him. I think it'd be

2318
01:47:04,840 --> 01:47:07,960
Speaker 2: sick if Indiana got themselves a Heisman winner Ohio State.

2319
01:47:08,160 --> 01:47:09,960
Speaker 2: How many do they have, like five or six something

2320
01:47:09,960 --> 01:47:10,120
Speaker 2: like that.

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01:47:10,320 --> 01:47:12,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just feel like usually in college football there's

2322
01:47:12,680 --> 01:47:16,400
Speaker 1: somebody who's just dominating the statu sheet. And if somebody

2323
01:47:16,520 --> 01:47:18,479
Speaker 1: is gonna be doing it, it would be Julian Insane

2324
01:47:18,560 --> 01:47:20,720
Speaker 1: right now. And it's just not dominant the way that

2325
01:47:20,760 --> 01:47:24,120
Speaker 1: you would typically see one of these Beast quarterbacks, especially

2326
01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:26,599
Speaker 1: when you're surrounded by aliens, like dominating the scene all

2327
01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:27,160
Speaker 1: season long.

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01:47:27,240 --> 01:47:29,400
Speaker 2: I do like the Marshall Reider. I like the Marshall

2329
01:47:29,479 --> 01:47:31,360
Speaker 2: read like he is a fucking baller.

2330
01:47:31,160 --> 01:47:33,799
Speaker 7: Really insane. I think as like an eighty percent completion percentage,

2331
01:47:33,800 --> 01:47:34,919
Speaker 7: which is kind of insane.

2332
01:47:35,680 --> 01:47:38,000
Speaker 1: Throws a good d ball, but again it's just like

2333
01:47:38,240 --> 01:47:40,080
Speaker 1: he has studs, so it studs.

2334
01:47:40,120 --> 01:47:41,040
Speaker 6: You can literally just throw it.

2335
01:47:41,120 --> 01:47:43,080
Speaker 2: Up in it two top five picks.

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01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:49,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I agree, Like you throw you throw a

2337
01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:51,640
Speaker 7: ball up to Carnel Tait and Jeremiah Smith, like a

2338
01:47:51,640 --> 01:47:52,320
Speaker 7: fifty fifty ball.

2339
01:47:52,360 --> 01:47:52,800
Speaker 6: It's fifty.

2340
01:47:52,920 --> 01:47:53,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like eighty twenty.

2341
01:47:53,920 --> 01:47:56,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, like those those guys are insane. Shout out Ryan

2342
01:47:56,920 --> 01:47:58,560
Speaker 7: Hartline for recruiting.

2343
01:47:58,760 --> 01:47:59,840
Speaker 2: The stat dominators.

2344
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:04,000
Speaker 1: Supposed to be Leonora Sellers, DJ Lagway. He got benched

2345
01:48:04,040 --> 01:48:08,639
Speaker 1: over the weekend. Meyer, he was not got benched.

2346
01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:12,640
Speaker 2: What a weird year it's been for quarterbacks. Yeah, like

2347
01:48:12,880 --> 01:48:15,600
Speaker 2: it was a kid club Nick. He was supposed to

2348
01:48:15,680 --> 01:48:18,679
Speaker 2: be something special. Yeah, and I haven't really heard about

2349
01:48:18,720 --> 01:48:21,160
Speaker 2: him at all since who they lose to you early

2350
01:48:21,240 --> 01:48:26,240
Speaker 2: in the year l s U but somebody else. Yeah,

2351
01:48:26,280 --> 01:48:29,040
Speaker 2: but this the second loss, when we're like, okay, Clemson's frauds,

2352
01:48:29,080 --> 01:48:31,719
Speaker 2: it was like kid's been Like now out of the conversation,

2353
01:48:31,920 --> 01:48:34,040
Speaker 2: Nut Meyer, he's got no bleak. He doesn't have a bleak.

2354
01:48:34,120 --> 01:48:37,960
Speaker 2: Now he's like benched. It's crazy. Diego Pavia, that was

2355
01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:42,320
Speaker 2: a fun conversation for a week. Now he's seventeenth. He

2356
01:48:42,400 --> 01:48:45,200
Speaker 2: went off. But I feel like that that conversation's kind

2357
01:48:45,240 --> 01:48:45,920
Speaker 2: of like gone away.

2358
01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:47,320
Speaker 6: Is up there?

2359
01:48:48,240 --> 01:48:50,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, seventeen quarterbacks.

2360
01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:52,479
Speaker 10: Okay, I was going I was going to say, I

2361
01:48:52,600 --> 01:48:54,519
Speaker 10: still think Diego Pobby has a real shot to win

2362
01:48:54,520 --> 01:48:57,280
Speaker 10: the Heisman if they went out beat Tennessee get into

2363
01:48:57,320 --> 01:48:58,320
Speaker 10: college football playoff.

2364
01:48:58,360 --> 01:48:59,760
Speaker 6: I think Poppy has got a real shot to.

2365
01:48:59,720 --> 01:49:02,680
Speaker 1: Win, especially when you get the pavia moments going like yeah,

2366
01:49:02,720 --> 01:49:04,320
Speaker 1: if they if they win out and he's got the

2367
01:49:04,400 --> 01:49:06,760
Speaker 1: Paviat moments, he'll very much be in that conversation.

2368
01:49:06,920 --> 01:49:09,920
Speaker 10: He'll have his Heisman moment if they beat Tennessee when

2369
01:49:10,000 --> 01:49:12,000
Speaker 10: those other guys don't really have a Heisman moment yet,

2370
01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:13,920
Speaker 10: but they will play the conference championship against each other.

2371
01:49:14,040 --> 01:49:17,000
Speaker 10: Mendoza and saying four technically the big ten and the Heisman.

2372
01:49:18,960 --> 01:49:22,799
Speaker 10: Did I say when I'm taking Vanderbilt money Line versus Tennessee?

2373
01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:27,759
Speaker 2: Letting it be known right now, Jack, how'd your Florida

2374
01:49:27,760 --> 01:49:28,200
Speaker 2: Gators do?

2375
01:49:28,280 --> 01:49:28,639
Speaker 4: This week?

2376
01:49:31,680 --> 01:49:33,920
Speaker 1: We're focused on the next head coach. It was the

2377
01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:35,240
Speaker 1: worst loss in school history.

2378
01:49:35,280 --> 01:49:37,360
Speaker 10: To quote Josh Pat, they watched the games in black

2379
01:49:37,400 --> 01:49:39,360
Speaker 10: and white since the last time Florida was beat that bad.

2380
01:49:39,439 --> 01:49:43,599
Speaker 2: But Brian stock Low, Hey, Brian Stocklow.

2381
01:49:43,120 --> 01:49:44,720
Speaker 10: Lane Kiffin will be the next head coach of the

2382
01:49:44,760 --> 01:49:47,200
Speaker 10: Florida Gators and Vanderbilt money Line.

2383
01:49:50,280 --> 01:49:52,439
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't care what Clump has to say.

2384
01:49:53,000 --> 01:49:56,080
Speaker 8: His opinion to me is truly that of like a

2385
01:49:56,200 --> 01:49:59,320
Speaker 8: teenager who doesn't know what breakfast heial he wants to eat.

2386
01:50:01,960 --> 01:50:03,680
Speaker 2: You really rounded that out, Jack, because I saw you

2387
01:50:03,840 --> 01:50:05,200
Speaker 2: like thinking through that insult.

2388
01:50:06,439 --> 01:50:10,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm not at this point, Tennessee season's over. I mean,

2389
01:50:12,120 --> 01:50:14,320
Speaker 8: I'm just stoked for Vanny to come in to kneeling

2390
01:50:14,439 --> 01:50:16,880
Speaker 8: and hear that noise. It's gonna be loud as hell.

2391
01:50:16,920 --> 01:50:19,920
Speaker 8: People hate Diego, Pavia, Knoxville. It's gonna be loud. And

2392
01:50:20,080 --> 01:50:22,840
Speaker 8: I'm not saying it's gonna be easy. But Clump texted

2393
01:50:22,920 --> 01:50:24,519
Speaker 8: our social group me while I was away for a

2394
01:50:24,560 --> 01:50:26,639
Speaker 8: wedding this weekend. It was the only text I even

2395
01:50:26,720 --> 01:50:28,960
Speaker 8: looked at, and it was Tennessee is gonna lose to

2396
01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:30,240
Speaker 8: Florida and Vanderbilt.

2397
01:50:31,680 --> 01:50:33,080
Speaker 6: And I knew he was just saying it.

2398
01:50:33,680 --> 01:50:36,919
Speaker 4: No, no, there's context, the context.

2399
01:50:39,160 --> 01:50:39,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to be.

2400
01:50:39,760 --> 01:50:40,800
Speaker 2: I don't want to be on the camera.

2401
01:50:41,760 --> 01:50:45,000
Speaker 10: Porter posted, uh, Tennessee has a real chance to make

2402
01:50:45,040 --> 01:50:47,320
Speaker 10: the playoff, and I said, there's no shot Tennessee can

2403
01:50:47,360 --> 01:50:47,960
Speaker 10: make the playoff.

2404
01:50:48,120 --> 01:50:49,479
Speaker 6: That's what the discussion was.

2405
01:50:49,680 --> 01:50:51,200
Speaker 1: Got you got you we do?

2406
01:50:51,439 --> 01:50:51,559
Speaker 2: Uh?

2407
01:50:51,840 --> 01:50:55,000
Speaker 1: Mitch brought it up Marcel Reed Garrett before we came on.

2408
01:50:55,160 --> 01:50:56,439
Speaker 1: He was kind of saying that Texas A and M

2409
01:50:56,439 --> 01:50:58,240
Speaker 1: should be the number one of the team in the country.

2410
01:50:58,840 --> 01:51:00,920
Speaker 1: My question to you guys, why.

2411
01:51:02,920 --> 01:51:06,519
Speaker 3: I mean you're talking about like beating teams bad. I

2412
01:51:06,600 --> 01:51:09,640
Speaker 3: feel like A and M is beating teams bad. They

2413
01:51:09,920 --> 01:51:10,960
Speaker 3: beat the ship out of.

2414
01:51:10,960 --> 01:51:15,160
Speaker 2: Missou closer for a sec? What's that close for a second?

2415
01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:18,160
Speaker 1: Okay, second third string quarterback?

2416
01:51:19,560 --> 01:51:21,800
Speaker 3: I mean okay, but like, but you're talking about like

2417
01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:23,920
Speaker 3: Ohio State should be blowing people out. They're not really

2418
01:51:23,960 --> 01:51:24,760
Speaker 3: blowing people out.

2419
01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:25,640
Speaker 9: Uh.

2420
01:51:25,840 --> 01:51:29,400
Speaker 3: They also had a close game against Penn State, whose garbage.

2421
01:51:29,720 --> 01:51:32,160
Speaker 1: Penn State's not going Okay, So who is who is

2422
01:51:32,200 --> 01:51:34,640
Speaker 1: A and M beat outside of Notre Dame? What do

2423
01:51:34,720 --> 01:51:36,559
Speaker 1: you mean who's A and M beat outside of Notre Dame.

2424
01:51:36,600 --> 01:51:39,280
Speaker 1: I'm looking at Auburn. They're not good. Florida is trash.

2425
01:51:40,120 --> 01:51:44,040
Speaker 1: Arkansas they beat Arkansas by three points. They beat Notre Dame. Yeah,

2426
01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:45,240
Speaker 1: I sit outside of Notre Dame.

2427
01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:45,640
Speaker 2: Who's there?

2428
01:51:45,640 --> 01:51:48,519
Speaker 1: Who's their best one? They beat Notre Dame by one? Yes,

2429
01:51:48,680 --> 01:51:49,719
Speaker 1: But so is Ohio State.

2430
01:51:51,040 --> 01:51:52,880
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm just telling you my side of the argument.

2431
01:51:52,960 --> 01:51:56,160
Speaker 3: I think that what they're doing is proving more than

2432
01:51:56,240 --> 01:51:57,880
Speaker 3: what Ohio State in Indiana's prove.

2433
01:51:58,080 --> 01:52:00,360
Speaker 2: I love how Will asked a question. I'm going, here's

2434
01:52:00,400 --> 01:52:01,840
Speaker 2: your kids have to say? Who the fuck did they

2435
01:52:01,880 --> 01:52:02,639
Speaker 2: played dunk team.

2436
01:52:05,000 --> 01:52:07,559
Speaker 6: I don't see nobody. Here's who they're going again.

2437
01:52:07,600 --> 01:52:10,000
Speaker 1: Here's what happens. People latch onto the Penn State. Penn

2438
01:52:10,040 --> 01:52:12,920
Speaker 1: State's a bad football team, like still arguably an incredible roster,

2439
01:52:13,240 --> 01:52:16,040
Speaker 1: which a lot of these SEC teams have, and they

2440
01:52:16,120 --> 01:52:18,240
Speaker 1: still end up like laying eggs. Like these teams that

2441
01:52:18,320 --> 01:52:21,120
Speaker 1: I'm I'm mentioning are like not good. Okay, so people

2442
01:52:21,200 --> 01:52:24,680
Speaker 1: talk about Ohio State's schedule, Indiana's schedule. It's like, okay, well,

2443
01:52:24,720 --> 01:52:25,599
Speaker 1: what do you compare?

2444
01:52:25,760 --> 01:52:30,000
Speaker 3: Would you compare Penn State's roster in Florida's roster like

2445
01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:31,560
Speaker 3: in that type of argument.

2446
01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:34,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think all these teams are right

2447
01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:36,040
Speaker 1: off in the SEC at one point time, it's like

2448
01:52:36,240 --> 01:52:38,920
Speaker 1: this could be a good team because they have good rosters.

2449
01:52:39,040 --> 01:52:42,439
Speaker 3: So what was the score for the Penn State Indiana

2450
01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:43,000
Speaker 3: game right now?

2451
01:52:43,840 --> 01:52:44,519
Speaker 6: They one score?

2452
01:52:44,760 --> 01:52:45,719
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeahaha.

2453
01:52:46,280 --> 01:52:48,280
Speaker 3: If you're going to compare rosters that way, A and

2454
01:52:48,400 --> 01:52:50,280
Speaker 3: M beat Florida thirty four to seventeen.

2455
01:52:50,439 --> 01:52:53,639
Speaker 1: They also beat Arkansas by three points. Okay, they almost

2456
01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:54,759
Speaker 1: got upset by Arkansas.

2457
01:52:55,520 --> 01:52:59,720
Speaker 3: Like this conversation will will hear the same thing is

2458
01:53:00,400 --> 01:53:03,160
Speaker 3: I have one belief and you have.

2459
01:53:03,280 --> 01:53:06,200
Speaker 1: The other well, because again, yeah, I'm setting I was

2460
01:53:06,280 --> 01:53:08,120
Speaker 1: like setting that up because I'm like excited to have

2461
01:53:08,280 --> 01:53:10,640
Speaker 1: this argument because everybody, everybody want to say a.

2462
01:53:12,160 --> 01:53:16,519
Speaker 3: Thirty one they're putting up. They beat Notre Dame forty

2463
01:53:16,600 --> 01:53:17,600
Speaker 3: one to forty.

2464
01:53:17,760 --> 01:53:20,640
Speaker 1: At Notre Dame in the year Notre Dame done fumble this.

2465
01:53:20,680 --> 01:53:25,320
Speaker 2: Same points and am should have lost that game. There's

2466
01:53:25,320 --> 01:53:28,040
Speaker 2: a massive holding on fourth down too, say it again.

2467
01:53:29,520 --> 01:53:33,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that they are beating teams at

2468
01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:37,200
Speaker 3: a larger margin than some of these other undefeated teams.

2469
01:53:37,360 --> 01:53:39,679
Speaker 2: I think Ohio State matches up real well against Texas.

2470
01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:40,679
Speaker 3: It'll be a great game.

2471
01:53:40,760 --> 01:53:43,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be a fantastic game. I don't think

2472
01:53:43,320 --> 01:53:46,720
Speaker 2: you can take away Texas at one just because they're

2473
01:53:46,800 --> 01:53:50,000
Speaker 2: quietly beating everybody. And I think they're covering too Texas

2474
01:53:50,080 --> 01:53:53,400
Speaker 2: at A and M. No, I'm sorry, Ohio State. You

2475
01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:56,360
Speaker 2: can't take Ohio State at away at one because they're

2476
01:53:56,400 --> 01:53:58,760
Speaker 2: just like they beat Texas, which is like their biggest win.

2477
01:53:59,080 --> 01:54:00,880
Speaker 2: Texas has come back in big way, but that wasn't

2478
01:54:00,880 --> 01:54:03,400
Speaker 2: the team they played a week one. They've just quietly

2479
01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:05,639
Speaker 2: been doing their thing like their schedule is their schedule.

2480
01:54:05,680 --> 01:54:09,120
Speaker 2: But they're beating teams, they're covering against teams and they

2481
01:54:09,280 --> 01:54:11,640
Speaker 2: never seen it. Like they just seem very complete and

2482
01:54:11,640 --> 01:54:14,000
Speaker 2: they're like onto the next like they seem like they're

2483
01:54:14,520 --> 01:54:18,840
Speaker 2: stacking blocks as opposed to yea, you know the other

2484
01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:20,439
Speaker 2: really good teams where it's like, oh shit, are.

2485
01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:23,960
Speaker 1: They Nobody has scored over sixteen points against ohioste.

2486
01:54:23,680 --> 01:54:26,960
Speaker 2: Right, which hasn't happened since twenty thirteen or twenty twenty three.

2487
01:54:28,320 --> 01:54:32,960
Speaker 1: Fourteen pencety put up fourteen, Perdue put up ten, Wisconsin zero,

2488
01:54:33,120 --> 01:54:36,480
Speaker 1: Illinois sixteen, Minnesota three, Washington six.

2489
01:54:36,760 --> 01:54:38,680
Speaker 3: What are their points? What are Ohio State's points in

2490
01:54:38,720 --> 01:54:39,120
Speaker 3: those games?

2491
01:54:39,400 --> 01:54:39,760
Speaker 2: Hostate?

2492
01:54:39,840 --> 01:54:42,040
Speaker 1: I think so here, I'll rattle it off because they

2493
01:54:42,400 --> 01:54:45,160
Speaker 1: haven't outside of Ohas State vers Text where they won

2494
01:54:45,240 --> 01:54:48,280
Speaker 1: fourteen seven, it's been seventy nothing, thirty seven nine, twenty

2495
01:54:48,440 --> 01:54:51,400
Speaker 1: four to six, forty two to three, thirty four to sixteen,

2496
01:54:51,480 --> 01:54:54,320
Speaker 1: thirty four to nothing, thirty eight to fourteen, thirty four

2497
01:54:54,360 --> 01:54:54,600
Speaker 1: to ten.

2498
01:54:56,160 --> 01:55:00,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, dude, they are those teams. They are

2499
01:55:00,440 --> 01:55:04,960
Speaker 2: the most complete team in college football right now. Yeah, yeah,

2500
01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:06,560
Speaker 2: seventy And you.

2501
01:55:06,600 --> 01:55:09,840
Speaker 1: Want to know something, I'd love to see him trip

2502
01:55:10,000 --> 01:55:13,040
Speaker 1: up in the college payoffs.

2503
01:55:12,640 --> 01:55:17,600
Speaker 2: Whoa buddy, I'm letting you know. This is November twenty ninth.

2504
01:55:18,280 --> 01:55:22,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, perfect game, like running the ball like they

2505
01:55:23,320 --> 01:55:25,640
Speaker 2: if there's one thing in their defense does not do

2506
01:55:26,840 --> 01:55:31,360
Speaker 2: extraordinarily well, it's protecting the run. And I'm telling you,

2507
01:55:32,920 --> 01:55:36,640
Speaker 2: if we can get Brian Harley, because I have so

2508
01:55:36,920 --> 01:55:39,960
Speaker 2: much respect for Brian Hartline like him as an OC,

2509
01:55:40,280 --> 01:55:42,600
Speaker 2: He's obviously do an incredible job this year. Him as

2510
01:55:42,640 --> 01:55:45,000
Speaker 2: a recruiter with the wide receivers, like Ohio State is

2511
01:55:45,080 --> 01:55:46,920
Speaker 2: wide receiver. You know, people want to talk about USU

2512
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:49,320
Speaker 2: and all that. It's like you look at recency biased,

2513
01:55:49,840 --> 01:55:51,760
Speaker 2: all of the best wide receivers in the NFL are

2514
01:55:51,800 --> 01:55:54,720
Speaker 2: Ohio State guys. He has done amazing. He's got two

2515
01:55:54,840 --> 01:55:58,960
Speaker 2: top five probably two top five top ten picks at

2516
01:55:59,000 --> 01:56:02,040
Speaker 2: the wide receiver position. Julian stand is playing incredible. But

2517
01:56:02,200 --> 01:56:06,280
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you, dude. And Arbor Michigan November twenty ninth,

2518
01:56:07,320 --> 01:56:11,280
Speaker 2: it's it's this is the same two teams as last year,

2519
01:56:11,720 --> 01:56:15,080
Speaker 2: but Michigan is just a little bit better. Michigan at

2520
01:56:15,080 --> 01:56:17,680
Speaker 2: this point last year was five and four. We're seven

2521
01:56:17,760 --> 01:56:21,400
Speaker 2: to two. We I think we're gonna stream it.

2522
01:56:21,800 --> 01:56:25,080
Speaker 1: Hey all to say, love, arguing, love all. That's what

2523
01:56:25,240 --> 01:56:28,680
Speaker 1: makes this sport insane. I would love to see Ohio

2524
01:56:28,760 --> 01:56:32,080
Speaker 1: State trip up against Michigan. I'd love to see Indiana

2525
01:56:32,120 --> 01:56:34,320
Speaker 1: go undefeated in the Big Ten championship. I'd love to

2526
01:56:34,400 --> 01:56:38,560
Speaker 1: see Ohio State whoop Indiana to where all the conversations

2527
01:56:38,880 --> 01:56:41,720
Speaker 1: against the Big Ten. Maybe A and M goes undefeated.

2528
01:56:42,080 --> 01:56:44,080
Speaker 1: May A and M makes it goes all the way

2529
01:56:44,080 --> 01:56:46,480
Speaker 1: to the championship, and then they just somehow lose to

2530
01:56:46,520 --> 01:56:49,360
Speaker 1: a rematch versus Notre Dame. Then the Independence School, the

2531
01:56:49,480 --> 01:56:52,920
Speaker 1: Independent School, Notre Dame takes everybody down to where you know,

2532
01:56:53,000 --> 01:56:55,440
Speaker 1: the SEC hasn't the Big Ten. You know they played nobody.

2533
01:56:55,520 --> 01:56:57,880
Speaker 1: Ohill State lost to Michigan. Dude, oh I'll State blew

2534
01:56:57,920 --> 01:57:00,720
Speaker 1: out Indiana. We know Indiana was overrated there, nobody's now

2535
01:57:00,760 --> 01:57:02,120
Speaker 1: we're in the college football.

2536
01:57:01,960 --> 01:57:04,320
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, me while we're sitting here talking about two conferences,

2537
01:57:04,360 --> 01:57:08,680
Speaker 2: the Big Ten and the SEC, Texas Tech Joy McGwire, Yeah, yeah,

2538
01:57:08,880 --> 01:57:11,560
Speaker 2: we could just be sitting and be like, hey, SEC's matter,

2539
01:57:11,640 --> 01:57:14,040
Speaker 2: no Big techs man and Texas chech just fucking runs

2540
01:57:14,080 --> 01:57:18,200
Speaker 2: through people. In the month of January, Texas Tech Notre

2541
01:57:18,360 --> 01:57:19,960
Speaker 2: Dame in the championship.

2542
01:57:19,440 --> 01:57:21,880
Speaker 1: Big twelve in Texas Tech. That's the winner.

2543
01:57:21,920 --> 01:57:22,760
Speaker 6: I would love to see that.

2544
01:57:23,520 --> 01:57:27,440
Speaker 7: Texas defense is real, nasty, bro. I think they're like

2545
01:57:27,680 --> 01:57:30,880
Speaker 7: top three, top five and like points liber game I think.

2546
01:57:31,200 --> 01:57:33,920
Speaker 1: And last year, Bro, they were like in the one twenties.

2547
01:57:34,040 --> 01:57:35,160
Speaker 6: They're unreal.

2548
01:57:35,720 --> 01:57:39,200
Speaker 2: I love and they're getting on the bus right too.

2549
01:57:39,600 --> 01:57:41,560
Speaker 2: They're gonna keep really because I love the idea of

2550
01:57:41,640 --> 01:57:42,400
Speaker 2: Texas Tech just.

2551
01:57:43,920 --> 01:57:48,720
Speaker 3: Winnings in the best spot right watching Chaos and two, yeah.

2552
01:57:48,640 --> 01:57:51,600
Speaker 2: The best spot. And also Buddy like just to bring

2553
01:57:51,680 --> 01:57:53,360
Speaker 2: it back to the Big Ten a little bit. Everyone

2554
01:57:53,440 --> 01:57:56,280
Speaker 2: and their mother has been like Oregon, we're done with them.

2555
01:57:56,320 --> 01:57:59,360
Speaker 2: Since they lost Indiana. Everyone's kind of like, ah, you know,

2556
01:57:59,480 --> 01:58:01,040
Speaker 2: we'll see if they get in the playoff, see if

2557
01:58:01,080 --> 01:58:04,120
Speaker 2: they don't. Like maybe Dan Lanny has us exactly where

2558
01:58:04,120 --> 01:58:06,800
Speaker 2: he wants us, because last year they're flying high, right,

2559
01:58:07,080 --> 01:58:08,640
Speaker 2: they beat the brakes off of Penn State. The Big

2560
01:58:08,680 --> 01:58:10,480
Speaker 2: Ten championship is really just a shootout. But you know

2561
01:58:10,520 --> 01:58:12,480
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Everyone's like, this is the team this

2562
01:58:12,640 --> 01:58:14,560
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, a pissed off Ohio

2563
01:58:14,640 --> 01:58:17,840
Speaker 2: State team just comes and runs through everybody but the Ducks.

2564
01:58:17,920 --> 01:58:21,320
Speaker 2: Baby I'm the Ducks and also the Dogs bringing the

2565
01:58:21,360 --> 01:58:24,720
Speaker 2: go back to the SEC. Dogs don't care about your feelings.

2566
01:58:25,440 --> 01:58:28,880
Speaker 2: They really don't. And they just are quietly winning games

2567
01:58:29,200 --> 01:58:31,600
Speaker 2: and being a top five team and like kind of

2568
01:58:31,640 --> 01:58:34,040
Speaker 2: covering they covered this past weekend then not covering. But

2569
01:58:34,120 --> 01:58:36,840
Speaker 2: it's like Kirby Smart does not give a shit He's

2570
01:58:36,880 --> 01:58:41,440
Speaker 2: gonna be in the SEC Championship against Alabama. Oh fuck,

2571
01:58:41,440 --> 01:58:43,720
Speaker 2: you're right. I just keep forgetting about A and M.

2572
01:58:44,080 --> 01:58:45,360
Speaker 7: Did you watch the Oregon Iowa?

2573
01:58:45,880 --> 01:58:47,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I watched. I watched the second half of it.

2574
01:58:47,920 --> 01:58:50,400
Speaker 2: I was at David Busters with five kids by myself.

2575
01:58:50,600 --> 01:58:50,920
Speaker 6: Iowa.

2576
01:58:51,240 --> 01:58:53,760
Speaker 7: I think I think Iowa has it was awesome. Iowa

2577
01:58:54,080 --> 01:58:57,200
Speaker 7: like their rush defense was like top ten as it

2578
01:58:57,280 --> 01:58:59,400
Speaker 7: normally is, Like they allowed like ninety yards per game.

2579
01:58:59,720 --> 01:59:02,960
Speaker 7: I think Oregon rushed for like two hundred yards. They

2580
01:59:03,040 --> 01:59:06,200
Speaker 7: have like a four headed monster in the running back room,

2581
01:59:06,280 --> 01:59:08,880
Speaker 7: like they they can like beat whoever.

2582
01:59:09,120 --> 01:59:11,680
Speaker 2: Dud Peyton said it like Oregon. Everyone thinks it's like

2583
01:59:11,720 --> 01:59:14,840
Speaker 2: a high flying offense. They averaged six point seven yards

2584
01:59:14,840 --> 01:59:17,480
Speaker 2: per carry on the ground and it was what forty

2585
01:59:17,520 --> 01:59:19,400
Speaker 2: two degrees rainy?

2586
01:59:19,520 --> 01:59:22,600
Speaker 1: They beat Iowa at Iowa football, Yes, and it couldn't

2587
01:59:22,640 --> 01:59:26,800
Speaker 1: have started any better a safety two to nothing right

2588
01:59:26,840 --> 01:59:27,320
Speaker 1: out of there.

2589
01:59:27,320 --> 01:59:29,800
Speaker 2: Then and then they would go up with a minute

2590
01:59:29,840 --> 01:59:31,920
Speaker 2: twenty left in the game, and then it's like, fuck

2591
01:59:31,960 --> 01:59:35,160
Speaker 2: it done, crazy.

2592
01:59:35,200 --> 01:59:38,160
Speaker 1: I was praying for just fourth quarter, it's two to nothing,

2593
01:59:38,280 --> 01:59:40,600
Speaker 1: Iowa kicks a field goal. Then Oregon goes down and

2594
01:59:40,720 --> 01:59:42,400
Speaker 1: kicks a game winning field goal to win five.

2595
01:59:44,040 --> 01:59:47,040
Speaker 2: Also like that Steelers Chargers game.

2596
01:59:47,120 --> 01:59:50,960
Speaker 1: US, Where did Oregon end up on the AP this week?

2597
01:59:51,920 --> 01:59:53,920
Speaker 1: Because the eight people didn't have Ioway in the top

2598
01:59:53,960 --> 01:59:55,640
Speaker 1: twenty five last week, so I'm sure they don't see

2599
01:59:55,680 --> 01:59:58,160
Speaker 1: it as like a quality whatsoever.

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01:59:59,320 --> 01:59:59,640
Speaker 7: Right now?

2601
02:00:00,040 --> 02:00:01,560
Speaker 2: Oregon seven, they dropped one spot.

2602
02:00:01,960 --> 02:00:05,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you could flip miss flip Oregon.

2603
02:00:05,280 --> 02:00:09,040
Speaker 2: But oh missus quiet. Everyone's like the hood coach is

2604
02:00:09,120 --> 02:00:13,200
Speaker 2: leaving and they're just nine and one sitting there.

2605
02:00:13,600 --> 02:00:16,560
Speaker 3: We have a huge one this weekend. I do think

2606
02:00:16,600 --> 02:00:19,560
Speaker 3: it's ahead, but it could shake things up.

2607
02:00:20,240 --> 02:00:21,480
Speaker 1: Who does it Bama got this week?

2608
02:00:21,520 --> 02:00:22,080
Speaker 3: Oklahoma?

2609
02:00:22,880 --> 02:00:26,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Olahoma's just kind of sitting there a bubble team.

2610
02:00:26,320 --> 02:00:27,440
Speaker 1: They're talking about them.

2611
02:00:27,600 --> 02:00:30,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but as Oklahoma kind of like Missouri were like

2612
02:00:30,640 --> 02:00:32,800
Speaker 2: just begging to stay in the playoff conversation. And then

2613
02:00:32,840 --> 02:00:34,200
Speaker 2: it abruptly comes to a halt.

2614
02:00:34,360 --> 02:00:36,280
Speaker 1: I thought so until they went up to Tennessee and

2615
02:00:36,480 --> 02:00:38,320
Speaker 1: we all we all watched that game and it was like,

2616
02:00:38,360 --> 02:00:42,600
Speaker 1: what the hell is going on here? Dram tier like

2617
02:00:42,920 --> 02:00:45,960
Speaker 1: the nest. They need better offense, but like, I don't

2618
02:00:45,960 --> 02:00:46,280
Speaker 1: see it.

2619
02:00:46,280 --> 02:00:48,760
Speaker 2: Getting more dude, that that injury, I do not see

2620
02:00:48,800 --> 02:00:49,680
Speaker 2: it getting more.

2621
02:00:51,160 --> 02:00:59,280
Speaker 3: Before. Yeah, Florida and Mississippi State don't sleep, don't sleep,

2622
02:00:59,600 --> 02:01:00,879
Speaker 3: don't see on the rebels.

2623
02:01:03,840 --> 02:01:06,760
Speaker 2: And I'm telling dude, that Florida game right there is

2624
02:01:06,880 --> 02:01:12,160
Speaker 2: a scary one. It shouldn't be scary, but that's when

2625
02:01:12,200 --> 02:01:12,880
Speaker 2: it gets scary.

2626
02:01:13,320 --> 02:01:16,440
Speaker 1: Florida is dead freshmen.

2627
02:01:16,200 --> 02:01:21,160
Speaker 2: Florida is the penn state of the SEC outstanding roster.

2628
02:01:21,360 --> 02:01:24,800
Speaker 2: Can't put it together. Yeah, down their quarterback?

2629
02:01:26,760 --> 02:01:29,240
Speaker 1: Hey Bama two on that g Like yeah, it's like

2630
02:01:29,880 --> 02:01:32,680
Speaker 1: ty Simpson is gonna have to be connecting with these

2631
02:01:32,760 --> 02:01:35,200
Speaker 1: explosive plays. He had a couple where he's just missing.

2632
02:01:35,520 --> 02:01:38,360
Speaker 1: And since Bama can't run the football that well like Oklahoma,

2633
02:01:38,400 --> 02:01:40,080
Speaker 1: I feel like we'll kind of eat that up and

2634
02:01:40,160 --> 02:01:42,640
Speaker 1: it comes down to it. It's it feels like a

2635
02:01:42,720 --> 02:01:45,640
Speaker 1: matchup like Tennessee Oklahoma, where you guys can throw the

2636
02:01:45,680 --> 02:01:46,160
Speaker 1: ball Well.

2637
02:01:47,320 --> 02:01:49,080
Speaker 3: The one thing I like, though, is our defense is

2638
02:01:49,120 --> 02:01:53,520
Speaker 3: playing their best football right now. Yeah, Like they're flying

2639
02:01:53,640 --> 02:01:57,040
Speaker 3: around turnovers like that. We didn't have turnovers last year

2640
02:01:57,080 --> 02:02:00,120
Speaker 3: at all. We had two maybe three this game, but

2641
02:02:00,720 --> 02:02:04,520
Speaker 3: we turned the ball over in positive territory and only

2642
02:02:04,560 --> 02:02:07,360
Speaker 3: come out with three. Yeah, So it's like putting that away.

2643
02:02:07,440 --> 02:02:10,200
Speaker 3: Putting that away. Scoring with twenty seconds left in the

2644
02:02:10,240 --> 02:02:13,960
Speaker 3: first half the last three games is the best feeling.

2645
02:02:14,240 --> 02:02:15,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, sending that team.

2646
02:02:15,520 --> 02:02:17,280
Speaker 3: To the locker room like, motherfucker.

2647
02:02:17,360 --> 02:02:19,160
Speaker 1: All right, what do we think is going to happen

2648
02:02:19,240 --> 02:02:20,720
Speaker 1: in the Big twelve? Who you think is gonna be

2649
02:02:20,760 --> 02:02:21,840
Speaker 1: in the Big twelve Championship?

2650
02:02:21,920 --> 02:02:24,080
Speaker 2: Like, right now, I know we have I think I

2651
02:02:24,120 --> 02:02:27,440
Speaker 2: think we have watched that game this weekend week?

2652
02:02:27,560 --> 02:02:30,520
Speaker 1: Do you think so? You think by he takes down Cincinnati?

2653
02:02:31,200 --> 02:02:32,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? I do what.

2654
02:02:35,480 --> 02:02:35,520
Speaker 6: That?

2655
02:02:37,840 --> 02:02:41,360
Speaker 1: No, I'm I'm not saying he doesn't he doesn't need

2656
02:02:41,400 --> 02:02:43,680
Speaker 1: any Yeah, I don't need anymore. It's just more like

2657
02:02:44,360 --> 02:02:45,960
Speaker 1: Cincinnati has been a good team. They've kind of been

2658
02:02:46,000 --> 02:02:47,240
Speaker 1: fun to watch and see what.

2659
02:02:49,120 --> 02:02:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, b y you Cincinnati YU drops to Cincinnati? Does

2660
02:02:53,000 --> 02:02:57,280
Speaker 2: that put Utah in the Big Big twelve Championshipnati.

2661
02:02:56,800 --> 02:03:00,440
Speaker 3: Oh, We've only lost one one conference game, yes.

2662
02:03:01,000 --> 02:03:03,480
Speaker 2: And quietless. So Utah is just gonna be in the

2663
02:03:03,520 --> 02:03:04,960
Speaker 2: Big is gonna be in the playoff?

2664
02:03:06,240 --> 02:03:07,680
Speaker 1: Help Utah last week?

2665
02:03:07,720 --> 02:03:07,920
Speaker 2: There?

2666
02:03:08,720 --> 02:03:11,520
Speaker 1: Well, Utah might need help, but they're gonna be again.

2667
02:03:11,640 --> 02:03:14,080
Speaker 1: It's like they could finish. They'll finish ten and two

2668
02:03:14,120 --> 02:03:17,960
Speaker 1: and they'll just be sitting there Prime College Football Playoff conversation.

2669
02:03:17,760 --> 02:03:19,800
Speaker 2: And IF yeah for CF because you got IF. You're

2670
02:03:19,800 --> 02:03:25,560
Speaker 2: gonna have Oregon, Indiana, Ohio State, Michigan in there, and

2671
02:03:25,640 --> 02:03:28,520
Speaker 2: the and the Big Ten and the SEC. You're gonna

2672
02:03:28,560 --> 02:03:31,480
Speaker 2: have A and M, Alabama, Georgia, oh miss.

2673
02:03:32,360 --> 02:03:32,600
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2674
02:03:33,280 --> 02:03:34,840
Speaker 2: Is there any more that I need to be thinking of?

2675
02:03:35,160 --> 02:03:36,760
Speaker 3: Oklahoma's currently ranked twelve?

2676
02:03:36,880 --> 02:03:38,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're currently ranked twelve, I must this is

2677
02:03:38,760 --> 02:03:41,560
Speaker 2: me assuming they dropped to Alabama, So that would be

2678
02:03:41,600 --> 02:03:44,680
Speaker 2: the four right there. So that's a ACC is gonna

2679
02:03:44,720 --> 02:03:48,960
Speaker 2: get one. So now it's nine like G five, G five,

2680
02:03:49,040 --> 02:03:50,440
Speaker 2: And then you're gonna have two spots for the Big

2681
02:03:50,480 --> 02:03:53,680
Speaker 2: twelve lost Memphis lost.

2682
02:03:54,840 --> 02:03:57,800
Speaker 1: You'll have one. You'll have one the Big Twelve championship.

2683
02:03:57,960 --> 02:03:59,720
Speaker 1: The Big Twelve champion will get in. Then it'll be

2684
02:03:59,800 --> 02:04:01,640
Speaker 1: like one one other.

2685
02:04:01,960 --> 02:04:04,720
Speaker 7: Well, here here's the here's a situation.

2686
02:04:04,440 --> 02:04:07,040
Speaker 1: Notre Dame will be in. So that's if Big ten

2687
02:04:07,120 --> 02:04:08,960
Speaker 1: and SEC get four in, which I don't think will happen.

2688
02:04:09,040 --> 02:04:11,520
Speaker 7: What if like since he beats b y U and

2689
02:04:11,600 --> 02:04:16,480
Speaker 7: then since he beats Texas Tech in the Big twelve championship, Dude,

2690
02:04:16,480 --> 02:04:18,600
Speaker 7: Like I feel like both though obviously Cincinnati will get

2691
02:04:18,600 --> 02:04:20,960
Speaker 7: an automatic berth Like, you're not gonna leave Texas Tech out?

2692
02:04:22,160 --> 02:04:22,200
Speaker 4: No?

2693
02:04:22,360 --> 02:04:23,640
Speaker 1: I yeah, I don't disagree with that.

2694
02:04:24,080 --> 02:04:27,960
Speaker 2: And who was saying that the committee the committee keeps

2695
02:04:28,360 --> 02:04:31,000
Speaker 2: keeps the championship like, doesn't put a lot of weight

2696
02:04:31,040 --> 02:04:32,000
Speaker 2: in the championship games?

2697
02:04:32,040 --> 02:04:34,320
Speaker 3: Corrects?

2698
02:04:34,720 --> 02:04:36,680
Speaker 1: Right, you get the automatical if somebody guess their breaks

2699
02:04:36,720 --> 02:04:38,360
Speaker 1: blown off, I think that they could. If you could,

2700
02:04:38,520 --> 02:04:40,520
Speaker 1: if you yeah, if they are two loss teams, which

2701
02:04:40,560 --> 02:04:41,240
Speaker 1: the only game.

2702
02:04:41,120 --> 02:04:43,839
Speaker 2: I see that happening is possibly Indian Oha State.

2703
02:04:45,240 --> 02:04:48,600
Speaker 1: But Indiana is undefeated and they still get in. Yeah,

2704
02:04:48,600 --> 02:04:50,880
Speaker 1: if they're one lost team, they that's where it's like

2705
02:04:50,880 --> 02:04:52,840
Speaker 1: they won't get punished for getting blown out in the

2706
02:04:53,000 --> 02:04:57,360
Speaker 1: Big Ten championships here. Excellent, all right, that is our

2707
02:04:57,400 --> 02:05:02,120
Speaker 1: college football talk. Hey, hell of a week, Locker over week,

2708
02:05:02,360 --> 02:05:03,920
Speaker 1: locker room will be coming out or bus with the

2709
02:05:03,960 --> 02:05:06,440
Speaker 1: boys will be coming out tomorrow with Kay Adams and

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02:05:06,600 --> 02:05:09,200
Speaker 1: then we'll have the locker room on Wednesday, locker room

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02:05:09,280 --> 02:05:13,280
Speaker 1: on Thursday, inside the bus Friday, Let's have a week boys.

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02:05:13,520 --> 02:05:15,440
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