1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,160 Speaker 1: And I am Brett Witterable. 2 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 2: It is great to be with you today here on 3 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 2: the Clay and Bucks Show. So much stuff is happening 4 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 2: out there. You had that great rally last night in Arizona. 5 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: President Trump was in was in tremendous form. The open 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 2: to that thing was unbelievable. And one of the people 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: who have made this this this fight so successful joins 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 2: us now and it is uh Michael Wattley, r. 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: NC Chair at the And I just I'm sitting. 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 2: Back and I'm thinking about all the conversations we had, 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: mister Chairman during the course of the elections, and how 12 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: enthused the the constituents out there were, and how they 13 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: were they were just chomping at the bit to get 14 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: out there and vote and. 15 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: Change this up. 16 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: Are you surprised from the outcome to this point in 17 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: time as to how much excitement continues to be evidenced 18 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: with with President Trump and the picks that he's making. 19 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:03,639 Speaker 2: Welcome to the program on Clambuck. 20 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 3: Well, it's great to be on with you, Brett, really is. 21 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 3: And you know it, it is really fun going into Christmins, 22 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 3: going into the holiday season with everybody in this country. 23 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 3: Beat the way that people are right now, and you 24 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 3: can just feel it. You know. The American people wanted 25 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 3: two things in this election cycle. They wanted change, and 26 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 3: they want America to be strong, you know, they really do. 27 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 3: And they want a strong economy, a strong southern border. 28 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 3: They want us strong on the world stage. But we're 29 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 3: seeing right now is economic enthusiasm. We're seeing upbeats in 30 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:46,919 Speaker 3: the markets. We're seeing that there is real people around 31 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 3: the world understand America is coming, you know, and and 32 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 3: that we're going to be strong. Hesblah and hamas are 33 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 3: suing for peace. The migrant caravans in Mexico are turning 34 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 3: around and going back home. And this is what people 35 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 3: voted for. Right that what we saw in the last 36 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 3: four years was really about America being weak. It was 37 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 3: about a president who couldn't make any decisions. It was 38 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 3: about a bunch of staffers around him who were all 39 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 3: one hundred percent ideologically driven, and even when they saw 40 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 3: that their policies were hurting Americans, they didn't care. They 41 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 3: doubled down on it every single time, right And they 42 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 3: really looked at this country as a you know, frankly, 43 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 3: a social experiment. And Donald Trump came in and said no, 44 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 3: we're going to be strong, we're going to have a 45 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: southern border, we're going to have a great economy, we're 46 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 3: going to have a great military, we're going to back 47 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 3: the blue, we're going to have safe communities. And the 48 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 3: American people were like, Yes, that's exactly what we want. 49 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 3: So I'm thrilled. Are you everybody excited in the way 50 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 3: that they are? 51 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 2: Are you confident that you know we're going to be 52 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: able to iron out whatever has to be ironed out 53 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 2: there in the Congress, in the Senate because you know, 54 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: people will ask the question all the time. Okay, you 55 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 2: got the presidency, Now what are you going to do 56 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,119 Speaker 2: to to try to advance the economic prosperity? 57 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 1: Strong borders? Uh? 58 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 2: Saying no to so many of these Kakamamy ideas that 59 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 2: have been coming out of this White House. Who I 60 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: guess Joe Biden has just seated everything too. But are 61 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: you confident that that everybody's going to get in line 62 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 2: and get along and get this agenda pushed, especially that 63 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 2: the tax the tax reform stuff that has to happen, 64 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: and and the border, the border stuff that has to happen. 65 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 3: Yes, And here's why, because the American people stood up 66 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: and voted for an agenda, and it's a common sense agenda. 67 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 3: It's it's a pro America America first agenda that Donald 68 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 3: Trump put on the table. And so you know, we 69 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 3: need Congress to adopt Donald Trump's agenda. And that's that's 70 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 3: where that's where we're going. Now. Is it going to 71 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 3: be you know, herky jerky. Yes, you know, we're gonna 72 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 3: watch sausage get made in real time. Uh, you know, 73 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 3: from from the legislature. And there are always going to 74 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 3: be people who come into every legislative battle with you know, 75 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 3: parochial interests from their state. And I get that, and frankly, 76 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 3: I don't have too much heartburn with it. But you know, 77 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 3: Donald Trump ran on a very clear vision, right and 78 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 3: and so you know, no tax on tips, no tax 79 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 3: on social security, right are very real, No tax on overtime, 80 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 3: you know, extending the Trump tax cuts, that was a 81 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 3: very clear clarion call. You know that our economy needs 82 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 3: to be strong. That's how we're going to get it done. 83 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 3: So I feel very good that we're going to get there, 84 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 3: and we're going to let Congress go through the machinations 85 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 3: that they always have to do before they pass any 86 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 3: major you know, types of bills. When it comes to 87 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 3: the border, there is not going to be any negotiation 88 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 3: to it. We're going to have a strong southern border, 89 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 3: and frankly, Congress can act or not act, but Donald 90 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 3: Trump is going to act. You know, I spent a 91 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 3: lot of time with Tom Homan, who is going to 92 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,679 Speaker 3: be the borders are in the White House, and Tom 93 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 3: is ready to go. He's already started having conversations, you know, 94 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 3: with all of the different stakeholders, so that on January twentieth, 95 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 3: there's not going to be a surprise person in the 96 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 3: world when the first executive orders come out and they 97 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 3: pertain to the border, because Donald Trump has made everybody 98 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 3: well aware that's going to be the number one thing. 99 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 3: And then he's going to unleash American energy. He's going 100 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 3: to bring down prices, and you know, this agenda has 101 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 3: been laid out very clearly for the last two years 102 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 3: as he's been running for president, that we're going to 103 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 3: restore the border, restore the economy, and restore our standing 104 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:39,119 Speaker 3: in the world. 105 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 2: So, you know, one of the interesting things that's happening 106 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 2: is there's a lot of innovation happening with this new 107 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 2: administration coming in doose is one of those things. Obviously 108 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 2: the people on the left are they want to try 109 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 2: to throw potshots at at who's you know, who's in 110 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 2: the favor, who's out of the favor. 111 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: But here's the question I have for you. 112 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 2: What about this idea we're going to be able to 113 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,239 Speaker 2: reform and I mean the country when I say we 114 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 2: we're going to be able to reform a number of 115 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: these creaky, outdated sort of mechanisms that restrain the economic 116 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 2: growth of the country. What about that, Chairman, Michael Whatley, 117 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 2: really truly important? 118 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 3: You know, you think about it. You know that Joe 119 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 3: Biden has spent the last four years money throwing money 120 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 3: away and doing it on special interest that do not 121 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 3: help the economy. Relation that it has caused has hurt everybody. 122 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 3: So we need a top to bottom review of the 123 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 3: federal government, the entire federal government, to figure out where 124 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 3: is the where's the fraud, where's the abuse that we 125 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 3: can get rid of, and what are the structural changes 126 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 3: that we're going to have to make. But it's a 127 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 3: great opportunity that frankly, I'm stunned the Democrats want to fight. 128 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 3: Why in the world would you want to fight saving 129 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 3: money for the American taxpayers. 130 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 2: Right, That's a huge that's a huge important issue right there. 131 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 2: And you have the bully pulpit at this stage of 132 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 2: the game, which is a which is a very important 133 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 2: component there. Visiting with Michael Wattley from the RNC, the 134 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 2: RNC chair. A tremendous job that you guys were able 135 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 2: to pull off getting into this election cycle. I want 136 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 2: to look back just for a quick second if I can. 137 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: And ask you were you surprised at. 138 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 2: How well it went as it related to the early 139 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 2: voting and the stuff like that. I know you were 140 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: a very very strong proponent on you know, making sure 141 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: that there's election security and all of the stuff that 142 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 2: is supposed to work right is going to work right. 143 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: And you had a lot of lawyers and you had 144 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: a lot. 145 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: Of people who were watchers and things like that. But 146 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 2: were you surprised by the way that election went with 147 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 2: that element of folks coming in and playing ball and 148 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 2: deciding that they were going to early vote and they 149 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: were going to stack those uh, stack those ballots up high? 150 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: So what about that, Michael. 151 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 3: We knew we were going to have over fifty percent 152 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 3: of all votes cast before election day. And the key 153 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 3: is you got to go compete for those votes, you 154 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 3: got to go fight for those votes. And so we 155 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 3: we created basically the world's first, you know, national early 156 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 3: vote program uh and went in and had conversations across 157 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 3: the board to make sure that all those voters going 158 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 3: in before election day were informed voters. And it was 159 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 3: really the first time we had put together that type 160 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 3: of a program. You know, Fortunately, several states had run 161 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 3: really good early vote programs in the past, Florida and Ohio, 162 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: North Carolina, where I'm from, you know, we had put 163 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 3: that program in place in North Carolina and had tremendous results. 164 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 3: So we were very up to the very very optimistic 165 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 3: that we were going to get the numbers that we did. 166 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 3: And you overlay that with the enthusiasm for Donald Trump 167 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 3: and the fact that people just wanted to go get 168 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 3: that voote cast j just wanted to make sure that 169 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 3: we were going to get that change coming in. Really 170 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 3: exciting to see it all come together the way that 171 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 3: it did on November fifth. 172 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 2: And then is there an apparatus that exists to continue 173 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,479 Speaker 2: people being engaged. It's not just set it and forget it. 174 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: It's it's re engage, re engage, re engaged to get 175 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: important initiatives through. 176 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 3: Absolutely, It's a great point, right because we can't just 177 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 3: say hey, box check and move on. We know that 178 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 3: the twenty six midterms are going to be absolutely critical 179 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 3: because what happened when the Democrats took over in twenty 180 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 3: eighteen was they were able to completely recap the Trump administration. 181 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 3: We cannot let that happen again. So the RNC and 182 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 3: the various state parties all across the country are going 183 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 3: to go right back to work on January twenty first, 184 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 3: as soon as the President sworn in, he is going 185 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 3: to get to work at the White House and roll 186 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 3: up the sleeves. We're going back to the RNC, working 187 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 3: with the state parties. We're going to roll up our 188 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 3: sleeves and get right back to work when in the midterms, all. 189 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: Right, and finally, with an eye towards the future here. Obviously, 190 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 2: we saw a big fight last week about about funding 191 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 2: and things like that. You're from North Carolina. We know 192 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 2: so much about how devastating Helene was in that area 193 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 2: and the surrounding states as well. Are we confident that 194 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 2: we're going to get this thing all put back together 195 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 2: and that these folks are going to be be in 196 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 2: a better position than they have been for the last 197 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 2: few months. 198 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 3: The people of Western North Carolina are tough people. They 199 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 3: are resilient people. And you can say the same thing 200 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 3: about Western Virginia and eastern Tennessee and Georgia. That people 201 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 3: are going to recover because they're strong people. But man, 202 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 3: the government needs to step up and do everything it 203 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 3: can to help them recover. I am so proud of 204 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 3: what I saw from all of the faith based institutions 205 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 3: that stepped in to help Samaritans Purse, a number of 206 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 3: different Baptist organizations and others from the private sector that 207 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 3: really truly stood up to help these people. FEMA UH 208 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 3: was not there and and and needs to do better. 209 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 3: The government needs to do better. Tom Tillis and Ted 210 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 3: budd have led the charge in the Senate. We've got 211 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 3: a number of folks in the House that are fighting 212 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 3: every day to hold FEMA and the administration accountable. Donald 213 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 3: Trump made it very clear, and Jade Vance has already 214 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 3: been back to Western North Carolina that that we are 215 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 3: not going to forget the people of Western North Carolina 216 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 3: and the rest of that region. UH and and that 217 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 3: we are going to be there for him and we're 218 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 3: going to help this region recover. 219 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: Michael Watley, our NC chair, joining us here on Clay 220 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: and Buck. Mike. Where do people go to get more 221 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: and for on this upcoming administration? 222 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 3: Sure? So the best place right now is go to 223 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 3: Donald J. Trump dot com find out about the inauguration 224 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 3: and all of the festivities and the events that are 225 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 3: taking place, as well as all of the nominations that 226 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 3: the President has made, and then RNT dot com because 227 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 3: we're going to come right back after January twenty one 228 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 3: and get to work and make sure that we're going 229 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 3: to win these midterms and keep the president's agenda moving forward. 230 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for spending time with us. Merry Christmas, 231 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 2: Safe travels, and we look forward to getting you in 232 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: the new year. 233 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: Thanks so much. Michael. 234 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 3: Yes, sir, take care, Brett. 235 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: You got it. That's Michael Wattley. 236 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Clay and Bucks Show eight hundred 237 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 2: two two two aight a two back after. 238 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 4: This Patriots Radio hosts a couple of regular guys, Clay 239 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 4: Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio 240 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 4: app or wherever you get your podcasts. 241 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: And I am Brett Witterable. It's great to be here. 242 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck. 243 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 2: Show our telephone number eight hundred two A two two 244 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 2: eight A two eight hundred two eight two to eight 245 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:12,719 Speaker 2: eight two. I want to grab this call from from 246 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 2: Kathy in Ohio because she's going to set this up perfectly. Kathy, 247 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 2: welcome to the show. What's on your Mind? 248 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 5: Thank you. I'm from Columbus, Ohio, and I just heard 249 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 5: about Biden. We won't call him president because he doesn't 250 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 5: deserve that. 251 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 3: Uh. 252 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 5: We'velease seen an officer, an officer killer, a cop killer, 253 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 5: and you know, I mean, he's let out with crazy 254 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 5: people already. But my question is there a way for 255 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 5: the Senate and the Congress to stop this freaking idiot 256 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 5: from letting all these people out. He killed a cop. Yes, 257 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 5: I'm a cop, Stanley. It infuriates me. 258 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 2: Look, unfortunately, there is very little that can be done. 259 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 2: We saw this thing was coming because remember last week 260 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 2: he gave a pardon to that man that the judge 261 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: that was taking payments for locking kids up, and you 262 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 2: had children, kids, teenagers killing themselves. 263 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: He seems to he seems to have. 264 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 2: Done a ton of these pardons with a few exceptions 265 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 2: there are. I mean, he's basically emptying the jails at 266 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: that federal level. The only people he did not release 267 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 2: were the Boston bomber from twenty thirteen, the evil maniac 268 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 2: that shot up the Ame church in Charleston, South Carolina, 269 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 2: and then the man who attacked the synagogue in Pittsburgh 270 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 2: who murdered I think ten or eleven people. He did 271 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 2: not give them any kind of commutation or any sort 272 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 2: of relief at all. 273 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: But it seems like he gave everybody else he possibly could. 274 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 2: And you know, he says, well, it's my belief that 275 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 2: we need to do this because you know, we have 276 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 2: to give mercy. 277 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: We have to give mercy. 278 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 2: But he doesn't ever give mercy to the people who 279 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 2: genuinely deserve mercy. 280 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: Like it's interesting. 281 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 2: He wants to spring the killers, but he's still very 282 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 2: wedded to the notion of abortion on demand. And he 283 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 2: calls himself, you know, a Christian, a Catholic, what have you. 284 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 2: And this is a guy who could easily go and help, 285 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 2: say the JA six people, but no, he doesn't do that. 286 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 2: He goes and pardons murderers and crooks and terrorists and 287 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 2: don't forget. You've also got another situation there. 288 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: And you know what the other situation is. 289 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 2: You've got a mess on your hands. You have got 290 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 2: a massive mess on your hands. People that have child 291 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 2: pornography in there in their possession. This is totally wrong. 292 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 2: I got more to say about this straight ahead. I'm 293 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 2: glad you brought that up, and God bless your family 294 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 2: for being a cop family. We've got another great segment 295 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 2: coming up straight ahead. 296 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere. We want you to stick with us. 297 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 2: Our telephone number eight hundred two A two two eight 298 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 2: A two one, eight hundred two eight two to eight 299 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 2: eight two. It is Brett Witterble and I am happy 300 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 2: to be in for Clay and Buck on the Clay 301 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 2: and Buck Radio Show. 302 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 4: Fleay Travis and Buck Sexton on the front Lines of Truth. 303 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 6: Please welcome back Brett Winterble filling in for Clay and Buck. 304 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 2: You know, I feel like I'm getting my Christmas present 305 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 2: early here because I'm getting to fill in for Clay 306 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 2: and Buck, and I just I always love this audience 307 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 2: and it's wonderful to have you out there. 308 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: And if you'd like to opine check in, talk to us. 309 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: Eight hundred two A two two eight A two eight 310 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 2: hundred two eight two to eight A two question for you, 311 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 2: and you can answer this if you don't want to 312 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 2: talk politics, you don't want to talk about the heavy 313 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 2: duty stuff that's out there. 314 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about it, but you don't have 315 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:07,239 Speaker 1: to talk about it. 316 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 2: Are you spending more this Christmas or Hanukkah or Kwanza 317 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 2: or Festivus? Are you spending more this year? Or are 318 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 2: you spending less on gifts? And the reason why I 319 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: asked that is, you know, for the last. 320 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: Few years it's. 321 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 2: Been a slow go in terms of the economy and 322 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 2: being able to go out and have extra money to 323 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 2: play with and do things like that. But I'm curious 324 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 2: are you feeling the joy of the season. And I'm 325 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 2: not attributing it necessarily to the election, though many of 326 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 2: you may and you like that, and I actually do 327 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 2: like that. 328 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 1: I just wonder about that. 329 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 2: Is this the way people start to celebrate because there's 330 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 2: a light at the end of the tunnel? 331 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 1: You know, there's a. 332 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 2: There's an adage where people say things like you can't 333 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 2: force something to happen because you'll either break it or 334 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 2: it'll fail. Things are going to happen in due time. Right, 335 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 2: things are going to function along their timeline that they're 336 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 2: going to follow, and so we had to go through 337 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 2: some very very dark days to get to this place. Right, 338 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 2: And going back to the thing we were talking about 339 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 2: in the last segment, Biden's corrupt pardon of death row inmates. 340 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: National Review as a. 341 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 2: Really, really strongly worded take on this, Andrew McCarthy wrote 342 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 2: this last week, as we covered here, the Biden Justice 343 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 2: Department filed a death bulty charge against Luigi Mangione, the 344 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 2: alleged cold blooded killer of the health insurance executive Brian Thompson. 345 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 2: Mangioni was already facing state murder charges for the murder 346 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 2: hit it on Manhattan Street. The only reason the pylonic 347 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 2: capital charge for an administration that says it's philosophically opposed 348 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 2: to the death penalty and imposed a moratorium on executions 349 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 2: since President Biden entered office in January of twenty twenty 350 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 2: one was to grab headlines in a case that had 351 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 2: riveted public attention. And now Joe Biden has gone out 352 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 2: and cynically commuted to these different sentences. 353 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: It's absurd And what I'm wondering is, and I'm not 354 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 1: making a joke about this. I don't want to make 355 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: light of what I'm about to say. 356 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 2: I just wonder how many other people are involved in 357 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 2: the granting of the clemency or the granting of a 358 00:19:55,240 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 2: removal from death row commutation. How many people are involved 359 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 2: in this? Because I'm old enough to remember back in 360 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety six and ninety nine and two thousand, I 361 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 2: remember the orgy of pardons being sold in the White House. 362 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 2: If you recall that, many of you are old enough 363 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 2: to remember that there was a stench around the Clinton 364 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 2: administration in those closing days where people were enriching themselves 365 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 2: by giving away pardons, right. You remember names like Mark 366 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 2: Rich and a number of other people who got pardons, 367 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 2: and it was viewed as very corrupt. In fact, one 368 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 2: of the things that that it led to, I think, 369 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 2: was a series of hearings about these people. But there's 370 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 2: very little you can do if a president wants to 371 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 2: pardon or a president wants to. 372 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: Commute, right, you can't commute. And I don't mean going 373 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: to work. 374 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, commutation is what we're looking at 375 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,959 Speaker 2: and what we're talking about here. And so this is 376 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 2: just another feeling in my mind that this is a 377 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 2: corrupt bargain that he is making. He seems to think. 378 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 2: President Biden seems to think that that putting criminals back 379 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 2: on the streets is sort of a way of creating 380 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 2: a social justice narrative for him. It doesn't take away 381 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 2: the sting from Vice President Harris who called him a 382 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 2: racist publicly and in front of everybody. And one particular story, 383 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 2: one particular story that we have heard in the past, 384 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 2: was the idea that the President's wife, Jill Biden, and 385 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 2: this is from inside the White House, people are saying 386 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 2: that she is looking to burn it all down. She's 387 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 2: looking to just say, just to flip it all the 388 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 2: other way. We're going to teach the American people the 389 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 2: lesson all this sort of stuff. And that germination moment, 390 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 2: let's be honest, was when then Senator Harris now Vice 391 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 2: President Harris called Joe Biden a racist and a bigot 392 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 2: on a national debate stage, and then he turned around 393 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 2: and made her the vice president because it was an 394 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 2: open play of identity politics. So is it possible that 395 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 2: there is some corrupt motivation taking place with these commutations, 396 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 2: with these people getting out of prison, with these people 397 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 2: coming off of death row. You know, you compare and contrast, 398 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 2: and you have a line to compare and contrast here 399 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 2: with what you saw during the commutations that President Trump 400 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 2: did as restorative justice. Remember, you had a number of 401 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 2: very high profile people who had amended their ways and 402 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 2: amended their life and vowed to do better in the future, 403 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 2: and they were let out of prison. And I don't 404 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 2: recall ever seeing a story of those people who were 405 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 2: removed from the prison roles going out and reoffending. We'll 406 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 2: have to find out now if any of these people 407 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 2: are going to reoffend in the future. 408 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 7: This is a. 409 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 1: It's a real problem. Again. 410 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 2: I believe in justice. Justice should be done. I believe 411 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,479 Speaker 2: in mercy. Mercy should be done. And I believe that 412 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 2: if you want to have somebody commuted or pardoned, they 413 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 2: have got to have made the effort to do the work, 414 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 2: to try to get back up as far as they can, 415 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 2: and then take a little bit of a hand from 416 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 2: whoever it is that's offering that. But they cannot continue 417 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 2: to be murdering maniacs who just want to continue to 418 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 2: traffic in evil. And I think that Joe Biden thinks 419 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 2: President Biden thinks, well, all I got to do is 420 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 2: is just remove them from the rules and I'll get 421 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 2: some kind of credit. 422 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: You're not going to get the credit. You're not going 423 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: to get the credit. Because of everything that. 424 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 2: Has come out over the last four and a half years, 425 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: everybody's on to what's going on in the White House. 426 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 2: Everybody knows what happened, and everybody has seen what a 427 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 2: failed administration this looks like. 428 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: And that will be the. 429 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 2: Legacy of this administration. In my humble opinion, and my 430 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 2: opinion is humble. I'm just one man on the radio 431 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 2: pursuing my dream, sitting in for Clay and Buck. Our 432 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 2: telephone number. And if you want to go back to 433 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 2: that original question I asked, are you spending more this 434 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 2: season than in previous Christmas seasons or Hanaka seasons, or 435 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 2: Kwansa seasons or Festivust seasons? Eight hundred two eight two 436 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 2: two eight eight two eight hundred two eight two two 437 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 2: eight a two. My name is Brett Whitterble. You're listening 438 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 2: to the Clay and Buck show back. 439 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 6: At Gather around the Tree, a fireplace or on the road. 440 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 6: It's a special edition of Clay and Buck this Christmas Eve, 441 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 6: Clay with a fantastic guest live from Jerusalem and Buck 442 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 6: throwing down some holiday history you. 443 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: Won't want a miss. 444 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 6: Find them on the iHeart app or wherever you get 445 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 6: your podcasts and. 446 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Clay and Buck Show. I'm Brent Witerable 447 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 2: sitting in today. It's a pleasure to be with you. 448 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 2: Our telephone number eight hundred two A two two eight 449 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 2: A two. Clay and Buck are are away today and 450 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 2: I want to also rest reinforce Christmas Eve special with 451 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 2: Clay and Buck, airing tomorrow that contains original content from 452 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 2: Clay strip to the Holy Land, a history, deep dive 453 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 2: with Buck on holiday traditions, and of course including the 454 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 2: original story, the origin story of Saint Nick, and some 455 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 2: meaningful words from Rush Limbaugh. It's gonna be absolutely phenomenal 456 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 2: and we can't wait to hear that program tomorrow. Let's 457 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 2: jump out and talk to Jim in Florida. Jim, how 458 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 2: are you spending in this cycle relative to the past? 459 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 1: What are you How much more are you spending? 460 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 7: Hey, buddy, Well, I have a large family. Last year, 461 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 7: I've spent about three thousand dollars this year about forty 462 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 7: five hundred. Wow, that includes you know, the food to dinner, 463 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 7: you know, all that stuff. But this inflation man's killing me. 464 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, it is. 465 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 2: Inflation is a hard thing to get rid of, especially 466 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 2: when you're pumping seven trillion dollars out there into the 467 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 2: economy spending on what. 468 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: Who knows, Nobody knows. 469 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 2: Let's go next to Fern in Texas. Fern, welcome to 470 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 2: the show. 471 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: What are you thinking about? 472 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 8: Well, yeah, absolutely, being retired. By being retired young, I 473 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 8: am spending more money. I think just the animal spirits, 474 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 8: the feeling around the world, not just in the States, 475 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 8: has provided you know, some incentive and absolute promise of 476 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 8: a better future just with the reelection of Trump. 477 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 1: That's really great, great, great stuff. Fern. 478 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: Appreciate you being out there. Merry Christmas, Happy New Year. 479 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 2: If you are celebrating that is that is really cool 480 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 2: because that's how the economy is supposed to work. The 481 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 2: economy is not supposed to work by by having people, 482 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 2: you know, heaving money off of a balcony, throwing money 483 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 2: out of the helicopters. 484 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: Right, The economy me is able to function. 485 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 2: As long as you don't swamp it, and inflation swamps 486 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 2: the economy. There's there's really no two ways about it. 487 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 2: Let me let you hear this interesting piece of sound 488 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 2: here allehandro myorchis. 489 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: You know the border is a huge issue. 490 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 2: Alejandro Majorcis, he had an opinion yesterday, was talking about 491 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 2: the death of Brian Thompson. We were just talking about 492 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 2: MANGIONI here a couple of minutes ago. Here is Alejandro 493 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 2: Majorcis on the murder of Brian Thompson. 494 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 9: Prosecutors called it a killing that was intended to evoke terror. 495 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 9: Would you consider him a terrorist? Is this domestic violent extremism? 496 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 10: The rhetoric on social media following that that murder is 497 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 10: extraordinarily alarming. It speaks of what is really bubbling here 498 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 10: in this country, and unfortunately we see that manifested in violence. 499 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 10: The domestic violent extremism that that exists, the threat of 500 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 10: it in the United States is one of the great 501 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 10: threat streams that we must counter. 502 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, but you've got all these criminals running around, 503 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 2: you got TDA running around, you got cartels running around, 504 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 2: You've got people murdering our kids with the with the 505 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 2: fentanyl running around. And he's concerned about this. 506 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: Fine. 507 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 2: I share his concern. I share his concern, But you know, 508 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 2: there is a two tier system of justice. If somebody 509 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 2: is a conservative and they do something that they shouldn't 510 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 2: have done, they will be vilified to the end of time. 511 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 2: But with this case, what you're seeing with MANGEONI okay, 512 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 2: we presume him innocent, right, he has that right. 513 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: He is presumed to be innocent. 514 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 2: He's going to have his day in court with his 515 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 2: high you know, h high powered lawyers that are going to, 516 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 2: you know, make sure that he gets everything he needs 517 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 2: to get. 518 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: But since when does Ma Yorkis seem to care about 519 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: about the average person, about the average person out there? 520 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,239 Speaker 2: You have criminal running the streets, you have people who 521 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 2: are fearful, you have news anchors Martha Raddits and Margaret 522 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 2: Brennan and these folks going on TV saying, oh, I 523 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 2: don't believe that the don't believe that these people are 524 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 2: real criminals or anything like that. No, No, there's just 525 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 2: there was just like five people that took over, you know, 526 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 2: five different apartment complexes in Aurora. 527 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: And that's just you know, that's just a small number. 528 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: It doesn't really matter. 529 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 2: I thank god Jady Vance was able to set the 530 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 2: record straight because it's just I mean, you're just talking 531 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 2: about lunacy. So let's do a test. I want cut 532 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 2: number fifteen. Please, Margaret Brennan face the nation talking to 533 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 2: Ali Majorkis. 534 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: About missing kids. Boy, this is suddenly a topic. Cut fifteen. 535 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,239 Speaker 9: Go Ice was also unable to account for more than 536 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 9: thirty two thousand unaccompanied kids who failed to appear in 537 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 9: court from twenty nineteen to twenty twenty three. According to 538 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 9: the report rever the incoming borders are Tom Holman says, 539 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 9: these children are being exploited and trafficked. 540 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 10: Is that true? Well, we certainly, Margaret, We certainly have 541 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 10: received reports of children being trafficked, even those as to 542 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 10: whom we know where they are, that is outside the 543 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 10: responsibility of the Department of Homeland Security. What we do 544 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 10: is we turn children over within seventy two hours, as 545 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 10: the law requires, to the Department of Health and Human Services, 546 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 10: and then HHS places those children. Of course, we investigate 547 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 10: cases of trafficking, but there are children who are reunited 548 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 10: with a parent here in the United States or a 549 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 10: legal guardian, and they move and sometimes the government loses 550 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 10: track individuals do not comply with the reporting obligations or otherwise. 551 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 10: I think it is inaccurate to say that all of 552 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 10: them are trafficked or victimized. There are a number of 553 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 10: reasons of why we might lose track of an individual 554 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 10: that is not necessarily specific to this administration. That has 555 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 10: been a long standing challenge in the immigration system. One 556 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 10: example of why that system is so broken, why the 557 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 10: duration of time in proceedings is unacceptably longed and has 558 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 10: to be remedied. Remember, we're dealing with a system that 559 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 10: was last reformed in nineteen ninety six. 560 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 2: Let me tell you something, folks number one, do not 561 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 2: ever believe when you see a bureaucrat like this guy 562 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 2: come out and say the system failed. 563 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: They always use that excuse. 564 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 2: The system failed, the system is not working, the system 565 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 2: is not functional. The system we just we can't be 566 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 2: responsible for all these things. 567 00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: Nonsense. 568 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 2: When's the last time you saw a massive bust where 569 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 2: they went and they freed a couple one hundred kids 570 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 2: that were being held against their will. When's the last 571 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 2: time you saw that kind of news out there? You 572 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 2: don't see it, you know why, because they're not looking 573 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 2: for it. In their mind, kids are furniture meant to 574 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 2: be moved here, there, and everywhere. Another great hour straight ahead. 575 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 2: I am Brett Whitterval. 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