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Speaker 1: Podcast starts now, What's up everybody, and you are listening

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Speaker 1: to Stradio Lab, the unequivocally best rated podcast ever to exist,

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Speaker 1: unequivocally a podcast, unequivocally up there on the podcast iTunes charts. Um, George,

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Speaker 1: how the heck is it going? I mean, I have

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Speaker 1: to say, I'm I'm really drawing a blank today. I

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Speaker 1: remember last time, I had so many things to say,

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Speaker 1: and I, well, this is like not a joke, but

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Speaker 1: I've been going to this doctor who's gay, and then

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Speaker 1: everyone who works there is gay. It's like supposed to

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Speaker 1: be empowering, but instead it's like all these twinks that

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Speaker 1: are Like last time I was there, this guy kept

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Speaker 1: talking to me about um, euphoria mm hmm. And then

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Speaker 1: I had to like, you know what, I had almost

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Speaker 1: the exact opposite situation when I went to my gay doctor. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: So the similarity is my gay doctor is also like

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Speaker 1: a twink, and it was sort of like like it

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Speaker 1: used to be an old man and I much preferred that,

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Speaker 1: and because he was just I could talk to him

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Speaker 1: pretty honestly, and this twink it's kind of scary because

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Speaker 1: I'm like, who do you know, like you're probably friends

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Speaker 1: with some of our friends. You've been out, like when

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Speaker 1: we've been out, and it makes me uncomfortable to tell

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Speaker 1: you what's wrong with me, because but if you tell

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Speaker 1: everyone what's wrong with me. I mean, we have a

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Speaker 1: friend whose therapist is spotted out and it's like part

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Speaker 1: of part of gay nightlife. They've even nightlife fixture. It's

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Speaker 1: just not right. If you ask me, I think it's wrong.

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Speaker 1: And but my you know, my doctor, I said, well,

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Speaker 1: this is what's going on with my whole He said, well,

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Speaker 1: that just happens to everybody, so get on out of here.

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Speaker 1: I had the same experience. We really yes, why I'm like,

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Speaker 1: do you know as sometimes you're like I wish things

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Speaker 1: were more stigmatized so I could get a diagnosis. I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to get a pill of surgery. I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: get everything um so that everything can work perfectly. I

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Speaker 1: don't think there should be any flaws inside of me.

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Speaker 1: I kind of it's crazy that we're just And I

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Speaker 1: was talking about this recently with someone, like not to

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Speaker 1: make things too serious, but like when people talk about

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Speaker 1: COVID and they're like, first they told us to wear

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Speaker 1: these masks, then they told us to wear these masks.

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Speaker 1: Like the central issue is like there's always uncertainty in medicine,

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Speaker 1: Like sometimes doctors truly don't know something, and that's the

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Speaker 1: scariest thing of all, Like if I'm going somewhere, I

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Speaker 1: need an answer. Oh and and doctors, Oh, they get

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Speaker 1: so mad. There's such sensitive people and they're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: don't google your symptoms before coming, and don't tell me

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Speaker 1: what you're there. It's like, actually, all you do is

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Speaker 1: google my symptoms. Like you just have a little more Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you have like a encyclopedia. Yeah, like that you look

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Speaker 1: at Like so, so this is an anti medicine agains

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Speaker 1: should gave people be doctors? No, honestly, we this kind

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Speaker 1: of adds to our topic. So I think we actually

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Speaker 1: need to save thoughts like that, what just because it's

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Speaker 1: like a form of employment. Yeah, okay, sorry, I didn't

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Speaker 1: realize how close I was. I think girls that are

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Speaker 1: I'm saying now sounds like I'm making a joke, Like

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Speaker 1: when I was like, should gay people be doctors? But

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Speaker 1: I'm about to say something else that sounds like a joke,

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Speaker 1: which is that girls that are obsessed with gay guys

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Speaker 1: with an appreciation of gay guys, like because it can't

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Speaker 1: off the nuclear that like accidentally give away the nuclear

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Speaker 1: codes on Grinder. Yeah. Absolutely, Yet again, everything I'm saying

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Speaker 1: sounds like I'm like in a like I'm in a

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Speaker 1: logo original podcast and think, how do we avoid that?

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Speaker 1: It's one of the hardest things. I think people, it's

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Speaker 1: not wrong, like you know, referencing Grinder or whatever. It's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're gay podcasters. Yeah we're referencing Grinder, Like, but you

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Speaker 1: have a French accent that we could say things that

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Speaker 1: I'm okay. Um, I just think at some point you

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Speaker 1: that's maybe that's where the line is drawn. And you

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Speaker 1: know what, I say, fuck it, Let's just be the

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Speaker 1: gayest gay podcasters we can be. It's Joey j up

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Speaker 1: in this bitch sohitch Bottom lately. Um, actually, yes, beach

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Speaker 1: and it was incredible. The other day I bottomed while

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Speaker 1: watching an episode of And Just Like That, which is

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Speaker 1: and I hate women because I'm gay, and um, on

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Speaker 1: top of that, I just want to say, yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: still winter, and yeah I'm drinking my ice coffee. I'm

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Speaker 1: drinking ice coffee every day, and guess what, I'm walking fast.

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Speaker 1: My entire day is buying ice coffin, walking fast from

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Speaker 1: one star back to another. Is it just me? Or

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Speaker 1: does this city not have a single damn top in it?

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Speaker 1: Can I get a name? There is a literal global

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Speaker 1: top shortage, and we need to do something about that

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Speaker 1: because none of the tops are understanding the assignment. Okay, wait, um,

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Speaker 1: the thing is, we could do that all day, and

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Speaker 1: I do feel you know, actually that felt homophobic? Whoa?

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Speaker 1: That felt hateful? Okay, because we are that? We are that,

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Speaker 1: Like we're just sort of exaggerating in a way that's

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Speaker 1: think we're better than that. I just don't think we're

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Speaker 1: better than you. Don't, Okay. I think I think we're

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Speaker 1: I don't even think we're elevated. I think if anything

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Speaker 1: there might be, it might be worse than that. Oh please,

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Speaker 1: I think the the subtext of this podcast is like

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Speaker 1: who are we? Mm hmmmmm, you know what it's like.

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Speaker 1: Each time there's a certain anxiety that both you and

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Speaker 1: I have where we're like, well, we're not that, well

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Speaker 1: a related twist. I saw the Newest Scream this week

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Speaker 1: and I did realize we are the scream of gay podcasters.

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Speaker 1: Where we are we are making a gay podcast, but

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Speaker 1: we are also sort of always saying what is a

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Speaker 1: and we're showing you we know how we're being gay podcasters,

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Speaker 1: but we are still gay podcasting, So we aren't free

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Speaker 1: from what we are. We're complicit. Yes, well what do

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Speaker 1: you think about that we're embedded in our own critique? Exactly? Yeah, Well,

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Speaker 1: courtn Cox, we would love to have you on the

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Speaker 1: pad or not. If you can hear the sound of

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Speaker 1: New One. Yeah, she's good. I thought it was a

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Speaker 1: good movie. Um great, can you hear my? Can you

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Speaker 1: guys hear my? Heater going about really? Yeah, it's making

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Speaker 1: so much noise. Just, um, let's wait for let's pause

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Speaker 1: hold on our editor, Adam, if you're listening, keep all

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Speaker 1: our guest. I fully agree. I can't wait to hear

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Speaker 1: I think he will bring such a powerful perspective. I agree,

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Speaker 1: and you know what this podcast needs. Uh. In addition

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Speaker 1: So without further ado, um, give a glamour girl HOODI

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Speaker 1: who to Benito Skinner? I oh coming, I'm like, hey, cunts,

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Speaker 1: and I feel that top thing. Um. Yeah, that was

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Speaker 1: just saying. You'll immediately be done. I so so interesting,

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Speaker 1: I just wait for someone to tell me I'm annoying,

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Speaker 1: because like as a gay man, that just will come.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna hear it. Yeah, I can't imagine if we

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Speaker 1: rivalry basically. I mean, Samuel, are essentially competing for your

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Speaker 1: want them to like us for who we are. I

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Speaker 1: already do I really do you're gay? I mean, I

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Speaker 1: we like to say we're different. And so when there

419
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 1: is a unreleased remix somewhere out there, we have to

420
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: claim that it is going to be the best song ever.

421
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: Yeah right, I mean, oh my god, I feel so bad.

422
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 1: Like that's the one thing when these people, these artists

423
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 1: are like I'm so sad about the leaks. I'm like,

424
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: it's your gay assistant, Like I know who did it.

425
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: He sent it. It's Mark, Yeah, Like I know the

426
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 1: exact person who sent this to every like stupid love

427
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: leaked because of this exact person. But yeah, I know

428
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 1: it is. Really it feels like they're all ours, I

429
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 1: think in a way, which is especially well. And when

430
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: a song you know it's a gay man, Uh, what's

431
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,880
Speaker 1: the word betraying a woman? That actually makes that gives

432
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 1: it a dramatic narrative it's gay or yeah suddenly in Shakespeare,

433
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 1: m it's that's our pop. That's our pop. And sometimes

434
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 1: the narrative of Sometimes the music doesn't even have to

435
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 1: be good. Sometimes all you need is someone sending an email.

436
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 1: Oh and then if I just have a leaked song,

437
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, I love it. She should have put it on. Yeah, like,

438
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,439
Speaker 1: no matter what I'm like, should have gone on the album.

439
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: There's a really good Target song exclusive Target song. Wait

440
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: did I freeze? We're listening for okay, what the song is?

441
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's this tar get song for Chromatica that's

442
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 1: called um love Me Still or something. It's a Target

443
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: exclusive Target exclusive. My god, I can't get it anywhere.

444
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: You have to go into a Target. It's on YouTube.

445
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: Obviously the monsters ripped that ship. But it really is

446
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 1: so good. Wow, it would make no sense on the album.

447
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 1: But everyone I tell him like, well, Target is a sponsor,

448
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 1: so please go and downloaded through official means. Yea, go

449
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 1: buy it in store physical copy. Please guys, go buy

450
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: the single, the single that is a CD at the

451
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: local Target store. Shall we get into the topic? I

452
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 1: think we should. Actually, yeah, it's a juicy one's and

453
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 1: I want to let Ben like kind of give give

454
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: your thought process and what went into choosing this and

455
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 1: why you think it's a straight topic. Yeah. So immediately

456
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,239
Speaker 1: I'm just like so serious, like, thank you so much

457
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: for asking me that I really like, I appreciate being

458
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: on this. Um. Well, okay, so I did tell the

459
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: dolls that I was going to do Matthew McConaughey's book

460
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 1: Green Lights. Then I just I haven't read it, but

461
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: so many straight men have told me to read this

462
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: book and they love this book. But instead I thought

463
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 1: I would go with entrepreneurship to make it a little

464
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: bit more broad. And I mostly mean like millennial, like

465
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 1: straight male millennial entrepreneurship, which looks like Him's Roman, like

466
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: they all have that font. Their ad campaigns on the

467
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 1: Subway are always like a little off, like they don't

468
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: quite make sense, and they're kind of like snarky, like

469
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: they kind of have like snap snap energy, like they're

470
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: kind of like, are you really going to eat that chicken?

471
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: Didn't think so? And it's like it's like an ad

472
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 1: for supplement. Yeah, like that's that's really fucking mean. Um

473
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: so any of those. But I think it's like in

474
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: thinking of at it just today, um, I thought a

475
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: lot about like it's kind of the Mark Suckerberg effect

476
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: that these like millennials have. It's these straight men who

477
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: are like, I have to create like an app because

478
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: that's how you like make billions of dollars, and they

479
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: love like a billion dollars. Like we're so fine with

480
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: way less, Like all of us just want like a house,

481
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: they and maybe a kid, but like not like probably

482
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 1: not they want like a billion dollars. It is you're

483
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: hitting on something, so just like it's like genius and

484
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 1: its simplicity, which is that all straight men want one

485
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: billion dollars, you know, like a simple billion, like a

486
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: billion flat. But it's it's really like and they are

487
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: not happy until they have that. And I think that's

488
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: what these apps And yeah, it's hell. And I think

489
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: the fact that they have to even if even if

490
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: you're the most privileged person whatever. To create a company,

491
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: you have to at least pretend you're doing something, and

492
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: their life then becomes trying to somehow justify wanting one

493
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: billion dollars. So they have to be like go through

494
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: the motions of being like, we wanna revolutionize healthcare just

495
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: this simple byeline and it's like, um, those are hair pills. Yeah,

496
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: this is not like this is I mean, I don't

497
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: know who like created Venmo. I assume it's like within that,

498
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: like it's a straight man that has straight man. Well,

499
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: I know. PayPal famously is like the PayPal mafia is

500
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: like all these people that were involved in the founding

501
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: of PayPal. It's like Elon Musk, um uh, Peter Teal,

502
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: like all these people that then we own and it

503
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: was like, oh wow, the PayPal market. They were like

504
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: on the cover wire magazine or something. Um. I also

505
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: very much encourage everyone to google right now PayPal, Peter Teal,

506
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: Elon Musk, and look at the first photo that comes up. Um,

507
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: it's gorgeous. That is rough. Oh is that a real

508
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: in it? Yes? Said that is. It's like one of

509
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: my favorite photographs ever taken the barn Oh so Ellen

510
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: has it hair hair transplant fully as is honestly a deal, okay,

511
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: and a very successful one, and a very successful one.

512
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: I love that. To get yeah, to get I feel

513
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: um the like straight. It's it feels straight, specifically entrepreneurship too,

514
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: because like we I feel like start to be like,

515
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: well this is all pointless, like this is all stupid,

516
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: but straight people are still like wait, I need to

517
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: like prove this thing. No, that's what it is. It's

518
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: like anyone else. It's it's the kind of it's fully

519
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: like gas lighting. It's like everyone else can see right

520
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: through what you're doing. No one, no one, literally, no

521
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: one believes this except for other people whom it benefits

522
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: to believe to play into it because they also have

523
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: something to gain from it. So it's like all of

524
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: this is just so that everyone can go to the

525
00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: Aspen Ideas Festival. All roads lead to the idea. It's

526
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: literally it's all of it is like all of the

527
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: startup economy is like a dress rehearsal for the Aspen

528
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: Ideas Festival. So I have I can't stop looking at

529
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: photos of them together, sorry, through space and time is

530
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: like wow, I mean yeah, there, I'm not over the

531
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: hair transplant. I can't stop looking at it. Do you

532
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: know what's really sad is that they both actually kind

533
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: of look good now, oh, like they actually like aged

534
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: really well. Well, I think that's what's hurting me the most.

535
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: It's really like, here's got some lasers done. I mean

536
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: they've got money, They've got a lot of money. They

537
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: can get some work done. I have a topic. Um,

538
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: so I have talked about my name Doppelganger. Sam Tagger,

539
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: is a character on e Er, But I have another name, Doppelganger,

540
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: who is a like trying to re evolutionized door to

541
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: door sales. And so I will sometimes get tagged in

542
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: like the weirdest photos of like the big Philadelphia Business

543
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: conference and it's like the Men in Music Business in

544
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: Music Philadelphia Edition Absolute and like one makes me so

545
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: sad because then I'll start watching this man's videos and

546
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: it's very much like, you know, like I'm bringing your

547
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: selling game to the next level, Like it's under revolutionized

548
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: sales by making real human connections. And that is like

549
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: the darkest form entrepreneurship because it's like almost a Pyramids

550
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: game or something. But I don't know how you can

551
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: see that's the thing all like, and I'm only saying

552
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: is because sadly, this is one of the few things

553
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: I have so much exposure too because of my entire

554
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: early twenties. Literally all of it is fake like that.

555
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: That's what's the most alarming about it is everyone has

556
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: a story of like, oh, yeah, this one guy I

557
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: went to college with is like kind of like a

558
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: you know, um is trying to make it in tech,

559
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: but he seems like he doesn't know what he's doing

560
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: or whatever. It's like, no, everyone is exactly like that.

561
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: Trying to make it in tech like that is so tough.

562
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: That's also the thing. It's like I feel like for

563
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: some reason, since we're outside of it, we can be

564
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: such like it's so easy to see that it's going

565
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: to fail, Like I don't know because we're not a

566
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: part of that community and they're so tied up in

567
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: the language of it. It's like, no, that makes no sense,

568
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: Like that is not a necessary creation. It's also like

569
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: its own little community, like you are basically at any

570
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: given point trying to like impress like investors and funders

571
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: who have a very very narrow view of the world,

572
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: so like you actually don't have to sell it to

573
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: the rest of the world. All you have to do

574
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: is sell it to like these random people who spend

575
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: their entire days listening to start up pitches. Yeah, and

576
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: they have like the little the little names. The names

577
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: are my favorite because I think that those are queer.

578
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: Those are made by by gay people who are fresh

579
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: out of college. That's whether they're like like door to

580
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: door is like d R to d R. So there

581
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: was one. It's so fun. I was talking to a

582
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: friend from college last night about this someone we know

583
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: has a startup called Human and it's spelled hvm N

584
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: and they make like basically like fake electrolyte drinks. I'm

585
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: in and I just want to say they're so good,

586
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: so good. Okay, yeah, they're all so good. I don't

587
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 1: really gonna make it, I really do. I think every

588
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,720
Speaker 1: startup should make a billion dollars and then fade away.

589
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: I think, well they do literally, you know, then they're

590
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: immediately done and they all just want to get bought.

591
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 1: That's the thing too. They have full passion. Like I think,

592
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: I really think that if like queer people or straight women,

593
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: if they really wanted to like make a company, like

594
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: the woman who made spanks, like she's definitely doubling down,

595
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: like she's never leaving it. I feel like that's hers forever.

596
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: And Elizabeth Holmes, I mean, I guess she did some

597
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: things wrong. What is different? Yeah, it's called having passion.

598
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: At least she had passion that she was punished for

599
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: having ambition, no Hunter present. I think it's sick what

600
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: we did to women in media. I'm done. I'm the media.

601
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it. I'm not making it like I'm

602
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: boycotting media. I did. I did delete Twitter, and it

603
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: feels like I am boycotting media and that. But just

604
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: because I was just having this thing where like people

605
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: would just say things and they weren't necessarily mean, but

606
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: then I would just stew about them for days, like

607
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: and that was this is totally off topic, and I'm like,

608
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: I just want to talk to you guys about this

609
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: love getting but yeah, I don't know how to describe it,

610
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: like none if it was actively mean, but it would

611
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: just be like like a response to a tweet about

612
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: the podcast and being like, I'm not sure if I

613
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: think it's funny or not, or if you guys are

614
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: actually dumb or like like that. Yeah, I wish you

615
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 1: would that one a lot. Yeah, I just would prefer

616
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: if you had like a true stance. But no I am.

617
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: I am anti media right now because I don't have Twitter,

618
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: but I think i'll probably download it tonight, and right

619
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: now I really will I miss it. Okay, So we've

620
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: established that straight men all want to make one billion dollars,

621
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: and then their life is dedicated to creating a fake

622
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: narrative that frames that in an altruistic way. Basically, so

623
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: it's like, I want to make one billion dollars, but

624
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: in order to do that, I have to first convince

625
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: at least one person that I want to revolutionize mobile payments.

626
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: And then they buy a Stone Island jacket. Yeah, they

627
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: they go straight to Stone Island or like, um, what

628
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: are some of the or like Arctics, they get their Arctics.

629
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: They get their Tesla, but not the not the really

630
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 1: expensive one, like more of a chill like lower. I

631
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: don't know how much Tesla's are, but I think there's

632
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: one that's like not intense, because I think everything is

633
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: a hundred thousand dollars. I agree, and I think I

634
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: think Tesla's are a hundred thousand dollars, But isn't there

635
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: one that's like forties. Actually, I think that they used

636
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 1: to be all a hundred thousand dollars and during the

637
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: past like five years, they have gotten more and more affordable.

638
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: Um crossed, let's go, let's set it bitches um. Yeah.

639
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: And then I feel like they also they also love

640
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: like within the entrepreneurship space. They love like videos of

641
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: people who have made it because they're like five speaking

642
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: about making it and like owning teams. Like that's kind

643
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 1: of the last phase of it. After they sell the

644
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: company that they have no passion for, then they buy

645
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: like some steak in a team and then make like

646
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: YouTube videos. I think that's kind of the end. Yeah,

647
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 1: it's um, it's like how much can you accomplish without

648
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: ever thinking a substantial thought? Basically, Like it's like how

649
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: much can you make out of just the desire to

650
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: have one billion dollars? It turns out a lot, a lot.

651
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: It is a lot. Actually, it seems like sometimes I

652
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: wish I were like crueler, like because it's sometimes like,

653
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: well it would be next toime, like a little more money,

654
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: but you know, like to just be sinister because they

655
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 1: are sinister. It's absolute cruelty. It's sort of like like

656
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: sometimes I don't know if you guys ever feel this way.

657
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm like, am I too content with like like

658
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: should I be a sort of um craving more from

659
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: the world, like or is is the point to just

660
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: sort of like pursue what I want and then like

661
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: hope it works out. I don't even think it's craving more.

662
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: I think it's thinking you deserve It's like, sure, there

663
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: is one billion dollar set aside for me, and my

664
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: job is just doing everything I can to access it. Yeah,

665
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: just get it absolutely. I actually now I'm like I

666
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 1: respect it so much. I think it's really beautiful. Yeah,

667
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: there is a party that's like if only it happened

668
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: in a vacuum and it didn't influence anyone else, Yeah,

669
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: that'd be great. I just like kind of worked for

670
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 1: one of these companies. But I don't know if I

671
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: like would be like sued for saying so, you know,

672
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: like I just always think that like you're not allowed

673
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 1: to talk about anything. No, I know, I know, I

674
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: guess if I don't name it. But it was so

675
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: based on like lie culture, yes, and it was just

676
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: like so obvious that like the guy who ran it

677
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: just wanted to make a ton of money and like

678
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: be seen as a rich man, but had like no

679
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: interest in anything that he was saying. And I kind

680
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: of think it was a sligh. I mean it is drag. No,

681
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: it's we're all born naked and the rest of entrepreneurship

682
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: and the rest starting a company. I actually there's something

683
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: to do that because I remember being a kid and

684
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: being like I could never like I'll never be able

685
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: to like perform serious in that way. Like that is

686
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: that is a performance of like I know what I'm

687
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: talking about, I care about what I'm talking about, and

688
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about is like numbers and the mark.

689
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 1: And then what you were saying about videos of people

690
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 1: that have made it, it's like that is there again.

691
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: I'm speaking as I'm posting a logo podcast that is

692
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: their actresses. It's like they their cape. Blanchett is Steve Jobs, no, literally,

693
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: Gary Vayner is Theresa, Like they live for those dolls.

694
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: I really yeah. I mean I don't know if I've

695
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: ever watched any of like the entrepreneurship videos, but I

696
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: am curious what they're saying. I think it's all based

697
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: in like if you imagine it kind of based in

698
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: that like a billion dollars is out there for you. Yeah. Um,

699
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 1: and you have to there has to be a level

700
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,919
Speaker 1: of magical thinking. Well, it's not just that, it's also

701
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 1: like every everyone has to be a little delusional in

702
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: any industry to think they're going to be successful. I

703
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: think the difference is that somehow everyone in the startup world,

704
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: even if they're not successful, somehow has twenty million dollars. Yeah.

705
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: That's like it's like it's like if I were like

706
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: a failed to open my comedian and I was like, damn,

707
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: I only made ten million dollars. Yeah. Yeah, there's no

708
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: the stakes are too low over there and in the

709
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: tech world because even if you fail, you win. Yeah,

710
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: but it isn't. This is where I think bitcoin is

711
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: really really playing games. That is I just want to

712
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: talk about this, you know. I just feel like that

713
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: is where they're losing all their money, right, That's what

714
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: I mean. Again, I don't know, because I'm like, every

715
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: the thing is, every chapter of this story, You're like,

716
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: this is so stupid. Surely it's going to come crumbling

717
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 1: down at any second, and then at any at every point,

718
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: people just keep making more money. Yeah, and then I'm

719
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: buying like a single use razor from a company just

720
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: because I'm like, I love that fun and like sure, yeah,

721
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 1: I'm having trouble shaving absolutely, you know the Harry is

722
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 1: the Aged with the Apostrophe Revolution fun. It's fun, George,

723
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 1: You're a tech genius. Are we gonna have? Is meta

724
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: going to be real? Like? Is that gonna be like

725
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: a thing people actually care about? Um? You mean like

726
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: the metaverse? Yeah? And the thing is I don't I can't.

727
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: Like if you had asked me if Facebook was going

728
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 1: to be successful, I would have said no because it

729
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: sounded stupid. Like if you were like, look, it's a

730
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: website and it's literally just like a different version of

731
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: my Space. Do you think this is going to be

732
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: the defining company of an entire generation? I would have

733
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: been like, no, it's just us, So like, yeah, my

734
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: instinct is to say no, No, one's gonna want to

735
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: be in the metaverse and like holding conference like being

736
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 1: instead of being a conference. Yeah, it's just buzz buzz,

737
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: Like isn't it all? Maybe that's the that's the statement

738
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 1: here exactly, And it's like buzz is reality basically. Yeah,

739
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: So I'm like, do do people want to be instead

740
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: of in a real conference room, being a conference room

741
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: where that is in VR and you can also be

742
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: a flying rhinoceros. Maybe, I mean, I'm gonna be so

743
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: nauseous within that world. I know I'm gonna feel sick.

744
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: It's like you're growing up in the metaverse. No, like

745
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be I'm gonna be so whiny in the metaverse,

746
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna be hell. Yeah, that just does not

747
00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 1: sound fun, but okay, that's yeah. I don't want it.

748
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 1: I don't care about it, and I'm like, I guess

749
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: my greatest fear is that I will end up caring

750
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: and needing to care, because I'd even feet that way

751
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: about cryptocurrency, where I was like, no, I'm never going

752
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: to think about this, and then I was like, why

753
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: do I hear about this four times a day? Yeah?

754
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 1: I think my biggest hear is not that I have

755
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: to care about it, because if I wasn't, if I

756
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 1: was pursuing any other kind of career, I'd be like,

757
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: I'm choosing to ignore this and I'm just going to

758
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 1: be a lawyer. But my biggest fear is that suddenly

759
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: the jobs available for us will be writing vr content.

760
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: I do love you as a lawyer though, thank you.

761
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: I actually that's really that's like se yeah, let's get it.

762
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: Let's get it girls. Um okay, wait, one more to

763
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: the entrepreneurship thing. Where do you guys stand on Like

764
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 1: small business? I think like shop local absolutely small business

765
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: feels um, that feels day. I think, you know, because

766
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: it's again it's like we don't need so much, like

767
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: we just want to make like one soap, like they

768
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: want to make, you know. But but gay people also

769
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: crave sort of I'd say they need a little bit

770
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:25,439
Speaker 1: of attention. Wait, I just feel like small businesses like yeah,

771
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: maybe they are humble in like how much they're trying

772
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: to make monetarily, but like I don't want the attention.

773
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: I don't want to be a boutique. They won't want

774
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: to be a small business for me, I am so

775
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: if I am so boutique. Like the dream is owning

776
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 1: a small boutique that's successful in its that like definitely

777
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 1: pays my rent. Like I don't want to be struggling

778
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: with my boutique. I wanted to be a successful boutique. Well,

779
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 1: no one wants a boutique that's struggling. That's literally, like

780
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: that's total nightmare. I'm imagining like a poor family from

781
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: the movie like a cartoon, and like the kids like

782
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: I have to work at the boutique tonight, your mother

783
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: and all the kids are like, you're a faggot, Like

784
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: your mom's company sucks, struggling boutique. The main kid is

785
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 1: like that your family's boutique is ghosh, wait, I'm picturing

786
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 1: your boutique now, and it's I like it, yeah, but yeah,

787
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: but you never know though. It's like it can be

788
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: tasteful to you, but like will it have clientele? But

789
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I think what what Sam is talking

790
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: about is like it being you have this boutique, But

791
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: then you also are like maybe I could start like

792
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: a goop, Like maybe I could actually be like a

793
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: famous face of this. Yes, you're absolutely, but I don't

794
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: know any gay entrepreneurs. They don't exist. I don't know

795
00:46:53,000 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: any well, Anthony, that's true, that's true. And Peter Peter too,

796
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: Tim Cook, Tim Cook, Oh, yeah, I guess you know what.

797
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 1: You know what they do how they it's funny how

798
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: they brand the people over at Apple. Because I don't

799
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: feel like he's like a money hungry entrepreneur. I'm like,

800
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 1: he's a genius, and it's like, no, he's he's the

801
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: CEO of like a huge company. Like he didn't do

802
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: that by being a nice sweetie. No, No, he's definitely

803
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 1: a demon. Yeah, which I think is fun and I

804
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: like I do to also like God bless like I would,

805
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: I don't have I like that he inherited the company.

806
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: That seems easy to me. He didn't have to think

807
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: of invent the iMac. That Also, it's very gay brat,

808
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: which I kind of love. Yes, daddy died and I

809
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: got the company. Two guys want another iPad? He was like, No,

810
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by this idea of like the gay instinct

811
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: to make the boutique into a conglomerate, because I do

812
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: think that's there, but never but I I don't know,

813
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: we don't. I don't have an example of that, So

814
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if we would, because that seems straight,

815
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: that kind of like making something so big. Yeah, I guess,

816
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: because well I guess, I guess the straight version is

817
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: wanting to make it into a billion dollar company. The

818
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: gay version is wanting to make it into a lifestyle brand. Yeah,

819
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: I mean the real Yeah, I'm trying to think what

820
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: I would want, Like my fantasy of a business. If

821
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: I would start a business tomorrow, it would be like

822
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: upstate New York, but just like an hour out of

823
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: the city, not too far, not too far. And it's

824
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: um like a boutique thrift store, you know what I mean.

825
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 1: And it's a consignment shop, and it's like yourself on

826
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: the foot financially already nosing you're not gonna this is

827
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: not a conglomerate, like okay, so but then it's like

828
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: people are think it's so charming and then we get

829
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: like a really amazing Instagram presence. Yeah, but you're not

830
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: thinking about the bottom line here. Well, and this is

831
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: my problem is this is what I mean. It's like,

832
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:10,919
Speaker 1: I'm not an entrepreneur, but that doesn't mean I don't

833
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 1: want a small business, right, So small business is square, right?

834
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: Small small business if you I mean it is it's

835
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: rejecting the kind of capitalist instinct for infinite growth and

836
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 1: being like, no, I identify as small, but we wouldn't

837
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: be opposed to it becoming big, right if it happens organically? Yeah,

838
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 1: like no gamn is ever Like no, I want less? Sure,

839
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: you know that's not going to happen. But we're not

840
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: immediately starting out. You just want to have this beautiful

841
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 1: furniture store in the cat Skills. But it doesn't it

842
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you immediately like wanted to be like R. C. Willie.

843
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: I think in fact, what we shout out, I'm like,

844
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: I don't what do you not know what ARC Willy is? Oh,

845
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 1: my god, from Idaho and that's like our that is

846
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 1: I just assume they were in every state. But they're

847
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: like a massive furniture store. Oh. But like you said,

848
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: a couple of brands today where I've been like just

849
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 1: sort of nodding, pretending to know and sort of not

850
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: really why else there's something the jacket you were like

851
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: about dorm something you know, I will come out as

852
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,280
Speaker 1: also not knowing a couple of the brands you mentioned

853
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: when you were talking about the dress, the house CEO's dress. Oh,

854
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 1: I just see it as like, yeah, I will say

855
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: I'm really fascinated by straight man's cling lately, like specifically, Um,

856
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: I think I'm saying it wrong, but it's like Ami

857
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: lion Deray or Emileen Door. Oh yeah, what I'm talking about,

858
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 1: Like straight men are all wearing it, and I'm like,

859
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 1: you don't spend money on anything. These t shirts are

860
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: like ninety dollars. That guy is now in charge of

861
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: New Balance. Did you know that? Oh that's entrepreneur It

862
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: could be done, but that Okay, sorry, I wasn't to

863
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: like lay down these random freaking references. You're like, the

864
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,959
Speaker 1: references suck. We don't know what the fun you're talking about.

865
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, just more than those like expensive like I

866
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: guess like Padagonia exactly, everything is like a descendant of Patagonia,

867
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 1: and like like slightly heyte beastie, I guess like they

868
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: lean meats, uh going hiking, yeah with like but then

869
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: like loving sneakers, I guess yeah, you know, and and

870
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: that being like a huge thing. Yeah. Well, I just

871
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: want to say, Benito, never ever soften your references for

872
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: me and hand he can handle it. He can handle

873
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 1: handle it, And hey, I won't. Thanks you, guys. I

874
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: appreciate because what you're doing is you're elevating our podcast

875
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: beyond I really I know, and that's what I wanted

876
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: for you. Guys. Um No, I will say every time

877
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: I do the podcast with Mary Betts, she does have

878
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: a few references that I'm like, you are two years

879
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: older than me, Like, I don't know what that is,

880
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: And I wait until after the pod because it's like

881
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 1: the way that we're raised. TV shows really just cycle

882
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: so quickly that like I love Lizzie McGuire, but like

883
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: someone maybe like two years longer than me, they're like,

884
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 1: I don't know who that is. It's Sweet Life of

885
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: Zack and Cody. And that's what, especially for Disney Channel,

886
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:32,439
Speaker 1: that is so true. It's quick. They ripped through those kids. Yeah,

887
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: in many ways, say, um, well, I know it's cruel

888
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: what they do to them. You're right say that, Yeah, yeah,

889
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 1: we actually yeah, and you know what, Yeah, yeah, I'll

890
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: say some child stars are not treated well, especially by

891
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: the Disney Corporation. Oh but I'm sure they're figuring it out.

892
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: We'll believe that out. We'll believe that out. Yeah. Yeah,

893
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, can you guys cut all this? Yeah,

894
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,959
Speaker 1: we'll cut off. We'll got every mention of a brand

895
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: that's not a completely please please please God. But look

896
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: up Arcy Willie you'll I think you'll know what I'm

897
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 1: talking about. It was like on you know, like TLC,

898
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: those old shows like Trading spaces and how I'm seeing

899
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,720
Speaker 1: it now, I recognize the Yes, you know, you've definitely

900
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 1: driven by one like in you know, the middle of

901
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: it's a big box store. Yes, sure, I guess I'm

902
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 1: surprised I haven't heard of it. Here's what I'll say

903
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 1: because i've I'm of course obsessed with the boutique discussion,

904
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 1: because I think it encapsulates pretty much everything about our economy,

905
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: and to me, it's I think what we're getting at

906
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: is that it's not that gay men either don't want

907
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: or do want to conglomertize. It's that actually they're addicted

908
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: to debating whether or not what size they want their

909
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: company to be. And in the meantime, straight men are

910
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: making one billion dollars. So while we're having these discussions

911
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 1: about like, well, we want to keep it small, but

912
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,280
Speaker 1: we want to grow it, but we want to maintain

913
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 1: the brand identity. Meanwhile people are like million dollars and

914
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 1: we want to be social. Yeah exactly, they've already pitched

915
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: it in the room. Yeah, that's that is a great point. Actually,

916
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 1: that's why we all need to be crueler, I know,

917
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 1: a little less artistic integrity, don't have fun on socials.

918
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: Just actually having fun on social never as good for

919
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: the bottom line as you think it's going to be.

920
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: Now I'm having this thing where I'm like, I don't

921
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: respect this company, yes exactly. I'm like, I'm like Wendy's

922
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: settled down, like this is inappropriate, or like foot Locker

923
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: responded to something this week and I was just like,

924
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: that's inappropriate. Like you're a big brand, Like stop it.

925
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: You're not a voice, You're a brand. Like you're a

926
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: big brand. I agree completely. I'm also like, even though

927
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: in my mind I know it's a different team, I'm like,

928
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: shouldn't you be making eakers exactly? That's sickening, It's disgusting.

929
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 1: I even like I saw an Instagram ad for the

930
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: Buffalo Exchange where they were like, look at the fines

931
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 1: that we found, and I was like, hey, hey, you're

932
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 1: in if you know you know exactly, Like you shouldn't

933
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:23,919
Speaker 1: be like advertising to Randos on Instagram, like you don't

934
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: need to grow. You're a weird thrift store that has

935
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: all these weird locations. Keep it that way. Yeah, no

936
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: one's gonna go to the Buffalo Exchange because they saw

937
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: it on Instagram. And I can't and I can't get

938
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: that top it was thrifted. That's one. That's one of one.

939
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: I mean, well here's okay. I think that's yeah, like okay, wait, okay,

940
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 1: I do have this one question. Yes. I think also

941
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: like I don't know if I physically could pitch a

942
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 1: company because I during the pandemic, I've had this thing

943
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: where I just dissociate all the time, like I cannot

944
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: focus on anything. So I think it is specifically straight

945
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 1: to be able to say the same thing that many

946
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: times and like still be able to like sell in

947
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: rooms like I could, I just can't. It's comfortable for them.

948
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: They don't crave a new idea. No, No, they like

949
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: that one like power point. Yes, And I think actually

950
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 1: that's like that goes back to the boot gay men's

951
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 1: boutique versus straight man's. It's like we'll we'll be like, okay,

952
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: what if we like produce you know, what if we

953
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 1: like produce that same top but with a little heart

954
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: on it. It's like making these tiny little changes. Meanwhile,

955
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: Peter or Teal is just saying the same thing every

956
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: single day and each day making one million dollars. We're

957
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: going to love him after this podcast so I guess

958
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 1: he's not straight. I mean that cut that example, that

959
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 1: was not what what do you mean? Oh wait, yeah straight?

960
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: Sorry I did not know he was gay. Oh yeah,

961
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 1: it's a whole thing. Wise, everyone coming for the queens.

962
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: Let the doll, like, can we tell We'll get into

963
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: it offline. But it's like it was a famous thing

964
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 1: when he was outed. Yeah, no, teach the children, you

965
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,919
Speaker 1: should say it. Okay, well I have never heard this. Okay.

966
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: So Gawker, my current employer, but before I was employed

967
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: by them, published something essentially like talking about Peter Till

968
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: being gay, and he then made it his life's mission

969
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: to take the website down, and in fact did take

970
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: it down by fully funding or not fully but allegedly

971
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: funding hul Cogan's lawsuit against Doccer for like a different

972
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: thing completely. So Peter tal was like the reason Gaker

973
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: got shut down the first time. Oh my god, supported

974
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: Hulk Hogan in the process. Yeah, haul Cogan, you know

975
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: camp No, honey, it's broke Hogan had. It's it's so bad.

976
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: I can't but like, why do I know that? Like

977
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: I know that Brogan. It's so sad it sucks. I

978
00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: think that also even now puts us in such a

979
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 1: fun talking about like the Disney Channel stuff and how

980
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: like the time moves so quickly, like us knowing that

981
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: Brooke Hogan has hits, like we are a small sect

982
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 1: of time. He understands that we had to be born

983
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: with it. Nine month period. It would bomb at a crowd,

984
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: it would bomb at a show. We'd bring up Brooke Hogan.

985
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: No one to get the funk but Us Hogan. Those

986
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 1: best girls we know, we know. Listen if you if

987
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: you know sneak or Night, you know? Oh my god,

988
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: wait didn't It was so funny. I just saw some

989
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: video where, like Vanessa Hudgens, someone came up to her

990
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: and brought up Sneaker Night and they were like, it's

991
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: my favorite song, and even she was like the fugu.

992
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: We recently realized that independently, the two of us and

993
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: Matt and Bowen both brought up Sneaker Knight on our

994
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: respective podcasts. I absolutely remember buying it on iTunes and

995
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: offending it to be Her first few songs were really good.

996
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: Vanessa had great early hit and then Sneaker and I

997
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: came out. It was a little it was controversial, absolutely,

998
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: and I just remember being like at school, Like, no,

999
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 1: this song is still sick Sneaker and I kind of

1000
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: has the vibe of a startup, which where she was like,

1001
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: well I want the billion dollars but like I don't

1002
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:19,439
Speaker 1: have an idea yet, and they're like, we gotta Yeah,

1003
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: we're putting it out. I'm gonna watch that video after

1004
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 1: this isn't it? Is it a bowling alley? No, it's

1005
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: definitely she's ring light up shoes. I can't remember if

1006
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: she's in a bowling alley, but the sneakers do light up. Yeah,

1007
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: I can't remember either, because it was you know, the

1008
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: song was so powerful I didn't need to connect to

1009
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: the music video in that way. Well it but uh, well,

1010
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: what do we think, Sam? Should we think? I think

1011
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 1: all right, I actually do. I think we've gotten to

1012
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: the bottom of it. I think, well, men, do you

1013
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 1: have any final thoughts on entrepreneurship? Oh my god, I

1014
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: think what I yeah, my like a serious thought is

1015
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: that I can't tell if I I think sometimes I

1016
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: like respect it, but then for the most part, all

1017
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: of it feels heartless. So that is and kind of

1018
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: like very jumping onto brands and jumping onto like what's

1019
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 1: hitting and like all of these I think it's solace

1020
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 1: because all of the companies I keep saying are like

1021
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: just remakes of other ones, which just feels inherently like

1022
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: your heart's not in it. Yeah, you know, there's almost

1023
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: something like we don't we need to try something new,

1024
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 1: like none of this is working. M you know, stick

1025
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:44,959
Speaker 1: things up, yeah, like try to actually innovate. It's also

1026
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 1: like or don't like just like be a chill person.

1027
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 1: I guess that's true. There is a business work at

1028
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 1: a boutique like literally like fine love. Yeah, like the

1029
01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 1: resources are there for take advantage of. You don't need

1030
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 1: a billion dollars. Yeah, there is something. There is an

1031
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 1: argument to be made for like the most ethical thing

1032
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: you can do is nothing, because it's having like the

1033
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 1: least possible impact on like the environment, the economy. Like

1034
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 1: just chill, just literally chill out for one second and

1035
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 1: you'll find it's so much better. I don't know these

1036
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 1: these people, these business people. I'm like, you were a

1037
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 1: child once, What happened to that? What happened to that one?

1038
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 1: In their room? For these pitches? Finally someone just raise

1039
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 1: their hand and be like can I talk? Can I

1040
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: be real? First? I know yeah. One thing that is

1041
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 1: needed in that environment is like someone someone don't raise

1042
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 1: their hand to be like okay, guys, like let's cut

1043
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 1: it out for one second. Sucks? Am I right? Like

1044
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: this bullshit? Yeah no I think we should. Um, it's

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01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: all small business. It's gonna we're gonna go back to

1046
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 1: boot eeeks. Um. Yeah, it's gonna shop. We're gonna shop local. Um,

1047
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 1: and they're all gonna be family owned. And also like

1048
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 1: no new things, just like if the business is struggling,

1049
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 1: help that business. And let's just get those businesses back

1050
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 1: up and running. No need to keep inventing you businesses

1051
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 1: like people make plates in Brooklyn, like sell them at

1052
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 1: your boutique, Like you can source these things. Like there

1053
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: are glassblowers everywhere. I assume they're definitely do not need

1054
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: to be more glass blowers? No, no, well, and and

1055
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 1: on that, and then on that, an epic takedown of

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Speaker 1: glassblowing community. UM, let's do our final segments, do it so. UM.

1057
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 1: Our final segment is called shoutouts, And in it we

1058
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 1: give a shout out to anything that we are enjoying,

1059
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 1: sort of in an homage to the straight tradition um

1060
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 1: of the shoutout Imagine you're at t r L it

1061
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 1: doesn't want and you're shouting back to your squad back

1062
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: home just about anything you like. Um, George, do you

1063
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 1: have one? Yeah? Okay, go for it. What's up, freaks

1064
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 1: and losers out there? It's your boy, George. I want

1065
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 1: to give a quick shut out to all the vegetables

1066
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 1: that were trendy and like the twenty tens that people

1067
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 1: now think are lane, kale, Brussels sprouts. I know we

1068
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 1: have this instinct to move on, but actually, like that

1069
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 1: was the right move. We don't we don't need to, like, like,

1070
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 1: just recommit to kale. Don't be afraid. Don't be afraid

1071
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 1: of like the of of kind of the sweatshirt that

1072
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 1: says kale and it's cringe. Just like, recommit to kale.

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01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: It's good. It's good in a lot of things. I

1074
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 1: recently put a kale stem in something. I cut it

1075
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 1: into little pieces and then I cooked it and it

1076
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 1: was delicious and added a really great crunch to the

1077
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 1: meal I was making. Don't try to reinvent the wheel,

1078
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 1: don't make me learn about new vegetables. Just recommit to kale.

1079
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 1: Who um, okay, I'll go okay and you know what. Okay,

1080
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 1: what's up freaks, losers and sexual perverts? Yeah, I'm talking

1081
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 1: to you. I would like to give a shout out,

1082
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: and I mentioned it earlier, but I had been um

1083
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 1: revisiting the Scream franchise and I want to give it

1084
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 1: a huge shout out. I think it is so fun

1085
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 1: to watch them reinvent this series, and every time they

1086
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 1: do it, you're like, there's no fucking way they're gonna

1087
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 1: be able to do this again, and then I'm watching,

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01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 1: I'm laughing, I'm enjoying. I watched Scream four this week, uh,

1089
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 1: and it was so good and I was like, Okay,

1090
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 1: this is this franchise could go on for the rest

1091
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 1: of my life and I would be happy about it.

1092
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 1: I watched the newest Scream this week, as I was

1093
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 1: also saying, and I liked it. I didn't like it

1094
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 1: as much Scream four, but it was good, and so

1095
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: I just want to say, Scream, you're a genius franchise.

1096
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 1: No one's doing it like you, and you have been

1097
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 1: the the original meta horror girly since the start. Um.

1098
01:04:54,880 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 1: You're an inspiration to us all and we love you. Okay, Benicto,

1099
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 1: whenever you are ready. Oh my god, I don't know

1100
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 1: what I'm loving right now. I guess like she is straight,

1101
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 1: So what's up? I want to shout out, what's up

1102
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:12,439
Speaker 1: you guys, Betty drama. Um, I want to shout out

1103
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 1: Monica Aldama from Cheer season two exclusively. Um, she goes

1104
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 1: through it and I it's I couldn't stop watching the

1105
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 1: past few days. I really thought I was just gonna

1106
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 1: skip and watch Daytona because like nine hours of a

1107
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 1: show that's like about a single topic seems insane. Um

1108
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 1: that we've already watched ten hours of. But um, I

1109
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 1: she really goes through it, and I like feel for her.

1110
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 1: She is like and it's so weird because it's like

1111
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 1: she is like going to church and I'm still like

1112
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 1: pause up, Like I'm like absolutely, and I'm like the

1113
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 1: power of prayer, Like that's so I love you so much.

1114
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: And I just think that she yeah, she I'm like

1115
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 1: pitching this season, but like it's so dark, so like,

1116
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 1: do not watch unless you like really want to go

1117
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 1: through it. But I could not be complex shout at

1118
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 1: it's so sinister. But she just goes through so much

1119
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 1: and I just like feel I've been thinking about her.

1120
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 1: All week, Like I just feel like genuinely so, like

1121
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:13,919
Speaker 1: she's a warrior. Um, so I really want to shout

1122
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 1: out Monica al Dama like I'm really I'm really proud

1123
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 1: of her, like and um, I assume there's not a season.

1124
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 1: She is a cheerleader, she's the coach. She's the coach. Okay,

1125
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: yeah's and I don't say that. I don't know this world.

1126
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:30,959
Speaker 1: That's why we're giving you blank face. But you haven't

1127
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 1: seen any cheer no how I were not reality queens

1128
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 1: and I'm not either. It's more of like a dog,

1129
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 1: like I don't watch the Housewives, which like gets sick over. Okay,

1130
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,439
Speaker 1: so I know this woman. Can I remember reading about

1131
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 1: her after the first season, and she was kind of

1132
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 1: like a breakout. I'm now, I'm now I now can

1133
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 1: picture you're talking about just one of those shows where

1134
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna wait for this to blow

1135
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 1: over and and then it did and so I just

1136
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 1: felt like I was free. But now it's back, so

1137
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 1: I'm not free. But we definitely she is complex, like

1138
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 1: she makes mistakes, but you just see how much she cares.

1139
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, like this has clearly really been like

1140
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 1: I'm I'm very passionate about this because I feel so

1141
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just on as far as like

1142
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 1: a reality show, I guess it's like doc meets reality.

1143
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 1: They don't really know how to do it like that.

1144
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm just like, I'm just watching a cheer competition.

1145
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 1: I love it. And then sometimes it's like some of

1146
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 1: the darkest material I've ever seen, and I'm like, okay,

1147
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 1: and that's life and that's just life. But um, but yeah,

1148
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 1: I just I really, I really feel for her. Shout

1149
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 1: out a huge shout out to her. I hope she's okay.

1150
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 1: Like Netflix kind of ruined her life. I don't know.

1151
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 1: I want to know more, but I can't ask you

1152
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 1: because we like because it would be too dark. I'm sure.

1153
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 1: I just know. It's just like she coached this team

1154
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 1: and then this show got so famous, so the season,

1155
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 1: like season two is almost like it wouldn't have a

1156
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 1: existed if they didn't become massively famous for season one,

1157
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 1: and now she's like she's famous. Got Season two is

1158
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 1: like the aftermath of like her getting opportunities and then

1159
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 1: like the kids she's coaching in Texas being like heartbroken

1160
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 1: and like saying awful things about her and you just

1161
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:19,599
Speaker 1: feel so bad because she's like strutting around her little

1162
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:22,679
Speaker 1: boots and the gyms in Texas and she's just getting

1163
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:25,720
Speaker 1: like dreamed on the internet. I just yeah, I hope

1164
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 1: she's okay. I really do. Huge shout out, huge shout out.

1165
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 1: Glad I got that off my chest. Yeah wow. But

1166
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 1: I would like, I would say that even if you

1167
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:40,560
Speaker 1: don't like reality, like I do, think that season of

1168
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,560
Speaker 1: one of Cheer is more like documentary stiff and it

1169
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 1: is slightly fascinating, like how much people care about this?

1170
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:52,600
Speaker 1: Oh of course? Yeah. I mean it's very um you

1171
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 1: know those like Best in Show, those movies, like it's like,

1172
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:59,679
Speaker 1: I love a niche community and seeing people really dedicate

1173
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 1: their live life to to something their entire lives It's yeah,

1174
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:10,719
Speaker 1: that's true entrepreneurship. Yeah, I agree, entrepreneurship of the self. Yeah.

1175
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 1: Well no, I love Well there you go. Well, thank

1176
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 1: you so much for doing the pot. This has been

1177
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 1: This has been an absolute way. It was a dream.

1178
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 1: It was a dream thing. And you know what, we're

1179
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 1: pitching this episode for seed funding and I hope we

1180
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 1: can get a billion dollars. We will definitely granulated. Maybe

1181
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 1: it's waiting for us. Finally, I can't wait for your boutique. Boutique.

1182
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 1: We're having a really small launch event. It's three people,

1183
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 1: but they're rich. Ye with little tiny pies. Yeah, but

1184
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 1: they're rich. And also there's designer drugs. Okay, well, goodbye

1185
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 1: bye